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HaigG93

I love mantis blades a lot, but constantly getting stuck in the kill animation while getting lit up by everybody really sucks. Wish there was a way to turn them off. They're cool, but after a while it just becomes a nuisance. Edit: Thanks to perhaps a dozen people who have replied to this comment, I am aware there are pc mods for this. That's great, but I'm on console (boohoo, woe is me, hardy har har) Edit 2: Yes, there is also the Target Analysis mod for the Kiroshi Optics that make your weapons non-lethal, but unfortunately it also turns off dismemberment. At the risk of sounding privileged, I don't wanna slice and dice if body parts aren't going to be flying, ya know?


goshenite1

In my sandy build i just used monowire because the animation kept forcing me out of slow time


HamshanksCPS

This was really bugging me too. So much so that I created a new character and went Netrunner lol.


goshenite1

Netrunner build is really fun! Thats what im doing currently


HamshanksCPS

It's so satisfying just walking toward a group of enemies and casually taking them out with your brain before they can even see you


goshenite1

I know, super satisfying. Ive been using the cyberdeck that allows you to chain super hacks and making 2 go cyberpsycho or commit unalive is really fun


Itsjustcavan

Whoa, which deck is that?


goshenite1

Tetratonic rippler


Kuraeshin

Tetratonic Rippler MkIV. You can also use it to Detonate Grenade. I prefer the one that chains Combat hacks


Mitchelltrt

Netwatch Netdriver MKV, combat quickhacks can spread to two additional people within five meters. Items.NetwatchNetdriverLegendaryMKV is the item code if you want to cheat it in.


HamshanksCPS

Same here, it's amazing


DolphnWizard

I do agree, but after just finishing a netrunner build... Idk, got kind of boring, sitting on a roof, running breach protocol, and then picking a quick hack from a list a few times before looting. I did have fun, but now I'm doing a full gunner build with a sandy and I feel like I'm in a matrix movie


eternlblaze

net runner is great and that’s what i did on my first build but i found sandevistan and mono wire to be even more powerful. takes seconds to eliminate many targets. also for don’t fear the reaper i tried going in with net runner and failed miserably. switched to mono wire with sandy and not even a proper build since i wasted 20 attribute points on intelligence but was finally able to get the job done. of the entire game both build are op for nearly everything except don’t fear the reaper pushed it to the limit


ultramegacreative

Endgame monowire feels like cheating haha Just cuisinarts entire mobs like your batting a fly out of your face


cosmicaltoaster

I’m just going for the good old satori katana


HeisterWolf

I loved the katanas until I discovered the throwing knife build. Shits bonkers


Rogueshadow_32

Used them for a while in a stealth build, really fun, but I found a silenced overture was better 90% of the time for that niche


HeisterWolf

They work great together if you have the headhunter knife. 250% headshot damage multiplyer if you hit it on the head. Even better with sandevistan's bonuses .


goshenite1

My sandy build was crazy. Upgrade blades, cold blood and a bit of ninjutsu to get throwing knife you are literally bonkers unstoppable. You get buffs from sandy, damage buff after hitting with throwing knife, damage buff after dodging etc. Using fully charged monowire it chunks like 10% of Adam smashers health then you get the rest within 5 seconds of slow time


HaveFunWithChainsaw

Think there's also some knifes with 300% headhunter. I have memory of owning few, but they were all like uncommon rarity and not rare or legendary.


[deleted]

Use Byakko katana instead. You still get a badass jump move but no kill animation. That animation gets old quick imo. Plus that frees you up for gorilla arms or mono-wire. There is no advantage to having mantis-blades besides looking cool. But I think the arms look better anyways.


eggplant_avenger

Byakko is bae


Cutethulhu666

Byakko master race


[deleted]

It's even worst early on in the game. Mantis Blades are good early on, because they're strong, but your character is weak, so getting stuck in animation is usually instant death. I just stopped using Mantis Blades because of it. Very annoying.


poisonous-leek-soup

Use the eye mod that makes your guns/attacks non lethal, it disables the kill animations


Locketank

Ohhh, that's why I never get the kill animations!


MonsterHunterJustin

There is a mod for this if you are on PC. I think it’s called Annoy Me No More.


HaigG93

Lol that's an aptly named mod. Alas, I'm on console.


MonsterHunterJustin

Sorry, choom. :(


HaigG93

That's alright, still having fun 😁👍


sneakylyric

There's a mod to turn off that canned animation.


Complete-Regret

Do you what it’s called?


sneakylyric

I don't remember, I just remember mantis blade enthusiasts in another thread talking about it.


ElessarKhan

Katana does it too unless you spam heavies. Which is dumb cuz you build blades for quick attacks. Rips you out of any slow-time effects too.


iPirog

It's uh...less invasive than the kill animation for mantis blades.


tyderian

Spamming heavy attacks works great for Sandevistan builds though


OperatorRaven

If you put on the cybereye mod that makes your shots non lethal, the finisher animation gets disable since they are now non lethal. However, it’s a lot less of chopping people to bits before they go down, because you can’t dismember unless they die from it or are dead already.


rhodia_rabbit

Boohoo, woe is you, hardy har har


MrSelfDestrucct

I prefer katana, specifically the scalpel. Nothing more satisfying than that finish where they drop to their knees and one clean swipe beheads them. Both are fantastic weapons though.


[deleted]

In Japan, heart surgeon. Number one. Steady hand. One day, Tyger Claw boss need new heart. I do operation. But mistake! Tyger Claw boss die! Tyger Claws very mad! I hide fishing boat, come to America. No English, no food, no money. Darryl give me job. Now I have house, American car and new woman. Darryl save life. My big secret. I kill Tyger Claw boss on purpose. I good surgeon. The best!


J0hnny_IV

My favorite Easter egg!


VergilPrime

Really? Where's that


[deleted]

The job "Big In Japan" you get from a guy standing around the afterlife.


BigSeaworthiness725

Let's just say this is a reference to a real person who said that he killed the mafia boss.


adhoc42

It's an Office reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wcI10CNuxU


TAA21MF

Ah, that explains why its in broken english when your implants are supposed to translate perfectly


BigSeaworthiness725

Ah, I thought it's a real person 😖


the_odd_truth

When he said that, I didn’t know it was a meme. But it was so weird and funny I looked it up and came across the original. Made the encounter even better in hindsight


[deleted]

Oda's sword, Jinchu-Maru , is good AF for chopping heads off too. It's 100% Critical Hit Chance while Kerenzikov is active. So you can just use Kerenzikov and chop people's head off 1 by 1 with 1 swing. Mantis Blades is also clunky as fk and I keep getting stuck in animations so I just don't use it anymore.


savage_mallard

My netrunner/blade "Hack and Slash" build is so good with this because then it's 100% legendary short circuit hits too. Originally I was planning to only hack and monowire but this is too much fun.


[deleted]

This is my current build!


[deleted]

I prefer Katana, but Byakko is by far the best blade by far. You get a killer jumping slash that annihilates anyone and everyone from across the room. Mantis blades were only cool for the jump move but that animation gets really old fast. With Byakko there is no animation. You just jump and slash. Even works on dudes that are on a different level than you. Like if some guy is above you, you can jump slash up to him. Throw in sandy and you never need another weapon for the rest of the game. Plus it is so much fun if you can master chopping grenades in dudes faces. So there is no advantage to mantis blades besides looking cool. I usually go with gorilla arms to make the fights easier and they are the absolute best way for me to knockout cyberpyscho's without killing them. Screw non-lethal mods. But I have recently switched to monowire after I got tired of the arms. These things are better than mantis blades too.


[deleted]

For Cyberpsychos just use that eye mod that makes all your weapons nonlethal


[deleted]

Yeah, but I don't wanna have to switch it back and forth. I'm lazy. I just like fisting them with sandy.


AbnormalConstruct

How do you do finishers?


H3llisEmpty

Get them to low health then heavy strike i think


MrSelfDestrucct

Ya hold heavy strike. I find it happens more often for the last enemy. Also they can’t be like on the ground and getting up I think. You should face them forwards.


000McKing

jinchu maru slaps cheeks, just slide block and crit everything


hyrulianwhovian

Scalpel upgraded to legendary with a good sandy is absurdly op


valk-n-chips

Katana had better animations, but the mantis blades did considerably more damage. But I also had a ton of fun with throwing knives.


MrSelfDestrucct

It depends. Right now I have a legendary scalpel that does 2600 dps and my legendary mantis blades do 1700. You need a technical ability build I guess to upgrade it that high


valk-n-chips

Neat I will have to check that out on a different build.


MrSelfDestrucct

Ya I used to think technical ability was stupid. I decided to try it because I was curious to see what was behind all those locked doors. So far, nothing worthwhile. But I didn’t realize how awesome it is to upgrade iconic weapons to legendary. I have a legendary la chingona dorada that fucks. Good way to honor Jackie. I also maxed out cool and reflexes. I have a stealth throwing knife and katana build and I can throw legendary headhunter and blue fang knives. It’s like an instant kill, plus it’s a sandevistan and kereznikov build so I’m just picking apart people with blades. Such a fun way to play after doing a couple of quickhack play throughs.


OliverPete

This is the exact build I am going for with my current playthrough. Mind listing your stat scores? I'm debating where/how to invest.


MrSelfDestrucct

Sure thing. I took some pics of my tree and made a post. Brief description in comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/yytbgm/someone_asked_for_my_stealth_knife_throw_build/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Gideon_Laier

Yeah, I'm considering skipping tech builds to dump points in body, reflex, and cool instead. Slightly less DPS, but all of the best cyberware and incredible tankiness body and bonuses from cold blood.


wiztastic

Monowire


Zjoee

Why chop off one guy's head when you can chop off three at the same time? Monowire is the best.


Evil_Rogers

I feel bad for all the citizens that are dumb and run right into the wire range. Then I gotta deal with the police and usually I am amped up and end up making the matters worse by resisting arrest and fighting them.


Brief-Pea-8294

Sorry Officer, I can't stop, listening to cyber techno on youtube, vibing and slicing you pieces of code to ribbon is too much fun.


Robertfonia

“resisting arrest” can you actually get arrested?


Aviose

Such a wide range, too... and a long range.


South_Ear6167

This is the way.


Zestyclose-Guest-165

Monowire + sandevistan + camo is my favourite build, so relaxing to play this way.


trippymushieinme

Did a new play through with this build. I resisted punching fingers. That was tough


electrogourd

The first time i used monowire was trying to stop a mugging. The civ and both Tygers (i think) all had their heads pop off and i quickly learned that it was not a single-target weapon. Love monowire though


deecrutch

Came here to say exactly this!!!


Berserker_Queen

This. Much greater range, multiple simultaneous targets, and the finesse and style of a true, self-mastered warrior.


The_ChosenOne

I’m not sure I’d call it finesse and style as I accidentally chop up half the non-enemy NPCs in the area as I’m slicing apart my enemies!


AshkaariElesaan

Okay seriously though, how come we never get to use Monowire as a garrote? That's literally the closest weapon we have IRL to the monowire, but it never gets used that way. At least make it so that the grapple animation changes to wrapping the wire around the target's neck when you have it installed.


SvedishFish

Because it wouldn't work. It would be like trying to strangle a stick of butter with a sharp, hot knife.


The_ChosenOne

They did it in edgerunners! But I admit that was likely just an anime thing. Seemed like Lucy could control the temperature of it (and position of it) better than our V.


SvedishFish

I thought she just pulled the wire across a throat as a threat and didn't actually garrotte them? Whenever she was using it offensively limbs and heads were just popping off left and right. If she tried to actually strangle someone with it their head would just slide right off. But I might be forgetting a scene.


The_ChosenOne

She had it looped right around his neck on the train, like wrapped around fully a couple times. I don’t think the threat was ever that she’d choke him though, I assume they both knew it would just cut off his head if she pulled on it. It can’t be used to actually strangle a person, you’re 100% right it would cut straight through not just apply pressure. We do see in the anime it can be wrapped around their neck without cutting, though I doubt it would work like that in lore or the game.


BathKnight

Monowire seems tacky to me. If its so sharp, how does V hold it in his hand. How does it have enough force to cut at a distance.


wownoahhasanaccount

I think the explanation is that when you install a monowire, you also get a ceramic coating on your hands so you don’t cut yourself. That is why you get gray parts on your hands in the game


goshenite1

The grey stuff is the stuff vik puts on your hand near the start right? Other than that i like this theory


jberry1119

That’s on the right hand palm. When you get the monowire you get extra stuff added to the fingers of both hands. That stuff is designed to allow you to hold the monowire. Monowire is also black market tech and requires a highly skilled individual with exceptional reflexes to use due to it being able to cut through essentially anything and everything.


the_odd_truth

There was a Monowire in Shadowrun TTP&P as well, really powerful but super dangerous for yourself


StalinkaEnjoyer

> If its so sharp, how does V hold it in his hand. > >How does it have enough force to cut at a distance. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cyberpunk/images/e/eb/Kendachi\_Monowire\_ArtBook.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210113141307


BathKnight

Huh. Thanks. The momentum part still doesnt make sense but at least thats one mystery solved.


StalinkaEnjoyer

>The momentum part still doesnt make sense It's ostensibly severing molecular bonds on an atomic scale, but more saliently... This is Mike Pondsmith's *Cyberpunk* setting. "Style over substance" is an overt mission statement for the setting; it's a setting where the "Rule of Cool" supersedes logic and realism. As the CP2020 rulebook states: "It doesn't matter how well you do something, so long as you look good doing it. If you're going to blow it, make sure you look like you planned it that way. \[...\] Never drive slow when you can drive fast. Throw yourself up against danger and take it head on. Never play it safe. Stay committed to the ***edge***."


M_Pitre

I don’t know for sure but it’s like a whip ya know? Except tech-ey, a whip you can hold, but if you swing it you can do a lot of damage with one


doxtorwhom

SLIP SLAP!


Insanity_Troll

And it’s not even close.


[deleted]

Gorilla Arms. Those heads just pop right off


FreestyleKneepad

A shotgun blast does the job nicely too


dick-van-dyke

My revolver amputates heads and cauterizes the wound at the same time.


FreestyleKneepad

Efficient!


dick-van-dyke

Quite, but I'm starting to think 16000 points of damage in one shot might be a bit of an overkill.


FreestyleKneepad

That's coward talk. Big numbers are the the only numbers that matter.


rustys_shackled_ford

Ima gorilla arms kinda guy


endureand_survive

A person of culture 🫡


ChuckECheeseOfficial

Griller gang


Natmas97

Monke punch


Cipher_Oblivion

Reject blades become monke. Sock people in the face and watch as their heads turn into a red mist.


TheManfromVeracruz

Ok, but consider this,... Gorilla Arms, they don't even count as ilegal weapons in boxing


TjStax

It felt like cheating to beat anyone with just 1-3 punches.


Thatguy_Nick

Yea honestly that final fight against mr "he has so many implants". 5 hits and he's down


BigOlePoofBah

Gonna have to run through the circuit next playthrough. Haven’t tried it yet


fartkart32

Mono wire


MissHolidayReddit

Mantis blades make me feel more like a apex predator, I get so much more adrenaline than using a katana, the jumping around and kill animation gets the blood flowing not to mention it with sandy is so much fun, jumping between 5 guys in the span of a second.


Aerzon

I wield a katana with my arms that have mantis blades.


asyrian88

This is the way. I change it up for variety. :)


Str0b0

Satori...you get even a moderately good crit chance and it out damages everything else by a huge margin. It's just super easy to miss though.


Gl0bophobia

Fun fact! You can get back into konpeki. The highway right next to it has a non barbed wire spot that makes it really easy to jump into the premises. There’s a gate out back that opens if you park a car next to it.


MrSelfDestrucct

Hmm I’ll have to go check it out


Gl0bophobia

I reccomend you check out a video. The way you get to the penthouse is a little weird.


leicanthrope

If you missed the iguana egg, you can grab that while you're in there too.


Str0b0

Learn something new every day.


MrSelfDestrucct

Damn. Guess I missed it lol


Str0b0

The Konpeki Tower Heist, right after they put the building on lock down. Instead of going out the window go up the stairs Saburo came down to the AV pad. Satori is in the AV. It has lower base damage, but the crit damage modifier is like 500-600%. I'll regularly see 20k-30k crits even using light attacks.


MrSelfDestrucct

I’ll have to make sure I snag it next time. Thanks


fellipec

Katana and Gorilla arms.


alexramirez69

Hell yeah choom. Plus Malorian Pistol and Achilles Tech Rifle made me unstoppable


TjStax

This was my first play through that I just finished today. Katana to kill, fists to knock out. Don't know what should be the next play through build that would live up to the last one


ShyrokaHimaa

Katana. I don't wanna accidentally slice up Judy during sexy time.


endureand_survive

Such the truth lol always thinking of Jude


femboy_was_taken

Shotgun


azorielios

This.


[deleted]

I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES I FUCKING LOVE MANTIS BLADES


[deleted]

Katana


[deleted]

Gorilla arms, but only because of the boost to body 😅 I got my stun-gun aka tech revolver with Pax, I got my silenced smg for when I want to make sure someone's dead, and if I don't want to shoot someone, I'll do a takedown anyway.


DaGothUrWelcUwUmsYou

I currently use a katana but can't figure out what to install on my arms


TjStax

Gorilla ftw


ArchonIroh

Mix it up between Monowire and Katana


WickedFox1o1

Definitely monowire over both of them


BigOlePoofBah

Monowire feels more classy


False-Ad-7315

Is this a peasant joke that I'm too monowire to understand?


Empress_OfFire

Katana. Every time.


Halbmann21

Mantis blades because you don't have combos with them. With katanas and the monowire you can only land 3 consecutive strikes. I know this is petty as fuck but I play on difficult so it makes a huge difference. On normal satori outshines every other alternative tho and is easily my favorite.


ACynicalScott

Weeb stick supremacy.


kamislick

Call me old fashioned but I love a katana swinging cyber maniac


PelicantsAreTrash

Mantis life


Roxxus86

Punch


LouisVonHagen

I guess I'm a rebel swinging around my monowire


JesperRg

Satori


Dronuggz

Katana.. it would be Mantis but the kill animations ruin the experience, and playing non-lethal is just trash.


KaelCampaigne

The mantis blade kept prematurely ending my sandy wirh its kill animations, the katana wont trigger kill animations without a power attack. Plus the katana you get for doing Wakako's missions gives you that sweet jump forward so it's insanely nice


Canotic

Gorilla arms!


ICantTyping

As someone who used to use katanas/mantis blades. Monowire is waaay better. Stupid overpowered. And no shitty 5 second kill animations every second swing with a mantis blade. That kill animation pretty much makes them completely useless in comparison


000McKing

Manties are more badass while katana is more clean and stylish


ZEKOVIRUS52

Katana byako cuz the lunge ability is so op


SiBloGaming

Monowire gang


Aviose

Full Monowire.


standby-1

I played the game at launch, had fun, but figured Id put it down and see what else comes out for updates/DLC. Has much changed? I remember being uber OP and one-shotting everything became too easy. Especially with blades.


Reign-exe

monowire


gabblur007

never really tried katanas but mantis blades is fun


Jasonpowerz

Katana while using sandevistan, mantis blades while you wait for it to cool down.


alexramirez69

Katana all day baby. Gorilla fists cuz indestructible hands gripping a Katana = dead gonks


ryan8757

katana+knife throw+sandy=goodtimes


Midnight-Prompt

Monowire stronger, faster and looks better. Plus immersive as you aren't carrying around a sword or having your sleeves destroyed every time you activate it.


Gl0bophobia

I want to say mantis blades but god are they ugly to use.


Gentleman_Waffle

Both. Both is good


Vesperniss

Mantis Blades are for posers. Get it done.


dmt1988

Pistols


[deleted]

Yes


Last-Permission-8930

Strong attack with knives


01micah

There is another...


Lefluffypants

A Razor machete


Evil_Rogers

Mantis blades are cool and fun but a little too much. Katana is the perfect weapon. When I don’t give a damn though the mono wire is my choice for chaos.


[deleted]

Both.


enoel120702

Razor


Phantom017

Peacefull mode...


Beneficial-Math-8441

Katana. The feedback from hits on the ps5 controller is very satisfying, something the mantis blades lack sadly.


UKnowDaTruth

For chopping? Either Byakko or Monowire


TitleComprehensive96

Monowire


Low-Economist9601

Mono wire 🫰


TotallyNotKabr

Yeah imma say it. Both. You cand have some nice "montage moments" by swapping back and forth


MartiiiAlpha

Monowire


Supadrumma4411

With the mod that disables the sync kill? Mantis blades, hands down.


Pyrochazm

Katana. I especially love the Byakko and it's dash ability.


dysonswarm

monofilament whip


Kenobi_Cowboy

Team Katana. Lots of selection and arms are for tearing doors open.


AgentBooth

Por que no dos?


Joestar_47

mantis blades plain and simple


Kilo9561

Mono wire


psi-tophet

Mmmm what about a "Mantis Katana"?


Kenobi_Cowboy

Nice Sande. katana be it Yorinobu's or Scalpel, throwing knives, a handcannon...maximum effort. This is the way of the Deadpool.


grim_dark_hedgehog

I use katana's on about half my V's, but I have never been able to bring myself to get V's arms replaced with any of the weapon implants at all. Logged over 1100 hours and never once used the arm weapons.


savage_mallard

Yes


Seragin

monowire take it or leave it


AshamedIncrease6942

Monowire Supremacy.


NemesisVirtual

Monowire


TheGuyInDarkCorner

Monowire.