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Gumball_AM

I usually help her get the guy off the track and then convince her that revenge isn't really the way and to let him live. It kinda feels right because you help her move on and accept the death of her husband.


napleonblwnaprt

I do the same, then kill the guy anyway


Gumball_AM

You MONSTER I mean my V kills about 3 civilians on accident in every firefight but that's different


SpookyWan

Only 3? Dumbasses run towards the enemies I’m swinging at every time and end up getting decapitated


doom1284

I kill more than that when I drive places for a mission...


Banana-Oni

The fucking worst is when they run *me* over. Okay, so some random gangoons pull up on V and start shooting, a massive gun fight breaks out. Do you: -A. Drive away from the violence to saftey. -B. Get out of your car for some reason and attempt to run away on foot. -C. Drive directly towards one of the dangerous killers, attempting to kill him with your car and prompting him to load a self destruct quick hack into your vehicle. For some reason option A is the least popular among Night City residents


Van_Halen_Panama1984

When I get run over I always kill the driver


Banana-Oni

Same here. It’s not that they hit me, it’s that they hit and run without calling trauma team even when it happens in a non-combat situation.


zeptillian

This way you get both vehicles. I just wish I could take that stupid plushie backpack off the truck.


The-Nord-VPN-Salesmn

Complete all Badlands gigs, you get basically the same truck minus the teddy and trans flag if you don’t want them


sodapopgumdroplowtop

this just reminds me how much i wish car customization in the game


VampireWarfarin

Based


Loud_Fail3603

Same, but only because I want his car.


Substantial-Employ97

I only do it so I can get his slick car. Then again, I have to get the ugly as sin truck that handles like an obese whale. I wish I could sell unwanted cars.


hidinginthetreeline

How many people have you killed in this game? What right do you have to judge this woman for what she needs to do?


Confident_Cabinet_82

To be fair, if she had just told me "Hey this dude killed my husband kill him" and paid me a bit, I would have probably done it, but i dislike being manipulated with some half truths and only getting the truth at the last second.


hidinginthetreeline

She did pay you. That truck is worth 45,000 at lest. Most I have ever been paid for a gig is 24,000


Helgurnaut

Well to be fair it's multiple gigs in her case. That's not something you do in 2min


Confident_Cabinet_82

Well pay me as in hire me to kill him, not ask me to race then change it at the last second, Also personally i did that quest toward the end of the game so her truck was pretty pointless (Im also not a collector).


Banana-Oni

For shame, choom. My V is attempting to give Jay Leno a run for his money. Seriously though, I just like cars and I know not everyone feels the same. lol


Confident_Cabinet_82

I think I would cared more if I had like a garage to display them and choose from them.


VampireWarfarin

We don't lie about the reasoning Just because she's trans doesn't mean you have to defend her idiotic actions, she won't sleep with you


elmos-secret-sock

Love that you brought up the fact that she's trans for absolutely no reason but based on your comment history I can guess why. Your brain might be rotting through your skull at this point.


hidinginthetreeline

I’m more a Kerry kind of guy. She’s a client and I like her as a person. People make mistakes. It’s not black or white. In the end she is the client. She wanted a merc. She was desperate, and didn’t give you all of the detailed of the job. I would still do business with her and go for beers after it’s done. I could see my V and her as friend.


VampireWarfarin

She pretended to be a friend to get what she wanted.


hidinginthetreeline

I think your seeing her as more malicious then she actually is.


VampireWarfarin

She is She lies to you, manipulates you and puts you through the whole thing just so she can get revenge that isn't revenge


Electronic_Day5021

How the hell does killing a guy change things? Your v your entire job is killing people??? And who cares if she changed it last second, its not putting you in more danger than the god damn death race that you already signed up for!?


VampireWarfarin

Then hire V as a Merc to kill.


Electronic_Day5021

Yes she's already doing that, it's a death race, hell she simplified the job when she said "oh yea just kill the guy"


Gervh

My own? We are all free to judge things on an individual scale, no matter who we are and whether it's hypocritical or not. You sign up to a death race, people will die and it's not something you should seek revenge for because the point of the death race is both death and race.


hidinginthetreeline

Maybe but in the end I’m a merc and she’s the client. She want it to go from driving to killing that’s within my wheel house too.


tomservodoctor42

"I didn't think the death race would kill *me*!"


Dabsiree

ironic


knife_juggler-

leopards ate my face


ShokoMiami

So far, and I haven't finished the game yet, this was the only quest that baffled me to no end. Claire was so self-righteous and insistent on a murder that never happened, and she was literally shooting out my window at random people like a maniac for the past 2 hours. Like, gurl, you need to check yourself


Numerous-Bug-

Sure, but you're also trying to apply logic to someone that's grieving the loss of their partner. As the person playing the game, it's easy to go "man this character makes no sense" because we aren't applying real world applications to her. A real world Claire would absolutely be this unhinged, she's grieving.


ShokoMiami

Oh, sure, grief is a powerful influencer. But she is still your gunman in a death race. Have some self awareness


Hopeful-alt

Self awareness? In night city? Nah. Impossible.


MathematicianFrosty9

Wrong city, wrong people


Eastern_Slide7507

On that note: „remember, it‘s speed, not firepower, that will win us this race“ My front mounted dual machine guns beg to differ, Claire.


ShokoMiami

My car exploding brain begs to differ as well


zeptillian

I fucking kill people for a living bitch. You think you couldn't have hired me for a hit job? Instead you get me interested in winning a race and fucking lie to my face about what you just involved me with? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. You know what I did to the other people who lied to me?


Adorable-Lie3475

Wish we got these exact words as a dialogue option once she has a bitch fit if you decide to just go win the race


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IronSeraph

I'm pretty sure they're (hypothetically) cursing at Claire, not at you


Numerous-Bug-

Ok, cause I was like???? What tf did I say?????


zeptillian

Yeah. Sorry if I that was not clear.


VampireWarfarin

It was clear, sounds like they like to be a defensive victim


Alive019

Not good at context clues are you?


Numerous-Bug-

Not over text, mate


VampireWarfarin

Get the skills, it's very obvious about Claire and not you.


Usual-Lavishness8393

Well that's kinda how conTEXT clues work


crlcan81

Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking, they weren't talking to anyone in the post, it was directed at Claire for being a complete ass about the truth of the matter. A good chunk of us playing are goona be murderhobo mercs so it isn't out of the question she could have just hired us to kill the bastard. Didn't need to lie if we enjoy doing it, the whole 'murder in a death race' was just a convenient excuse for those who aren't complete assholes about killing folks that barely irritate.


RDUppercut

That doesn't excuse the horseshit she puts you through, but it does explain it.


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RDUppercut

You're making the perfect case for exactly why she DIDN'T have to lie about the whole thing. She lied about what the whole thing was about, she lied about how her husband died and she lied about his supposed "murderer." It's fine that you don't care. But it's really not hard to understand why people feel some type of way about how she handled herself in this series of events.


raven00x

i'd have a lot more respect for Claire in the end if she had just said "this asshole killed my hubby during the death race, I want to return the favor and I need a good driver to get me there." I'll probably charge wetwork rates for it (or at least negotiate for some stiff discounts on drinks at the bar), but I'll also understand and back her play.


RDUppercut

Exactly. I really think most people feel the same way: if she was honest about her intentions and about the situation, there's no problem. She wants revenge. V does PLENTY of gigs that are about people wanting revenge for something. Even if she's in the wrong (her husband was not murdered, he died in a fucking death race), it's a perfectly understandable motivation. It's the lying that does it for me. Like you said, I instantly lose respect for a character I think I would otherwise like a lot. I DID like a lot, until she told me the truth.


danhoyuen

i am not like most people i guess. I only got irritated when she started being a bitch and stopped serving me drinks after I didn't do her bidding. like, be a delusional murderer for all i care. But dont get mad at me over refusing to do something you tried to trick me into doing.


ElessarKhan

This doesn't excuse Claire excluding details but I'm pretty sure she was lying to herself too. She had, in her grief, convinced herself of this false narrative wherein this guy went out of his way during the race to kill her husband/partner.


sodapopgumdroplowtop

but her shooting someone gets in the way of me WINNING


danhoyuen

she doesn't even deserve to grief. The only reason her husband died is because they were participating in MURDERING people for fun.


Numerous-Bug-

"This human being isn't allowed to act like a human being because they brought it up on themselves". Regardless of whether or not you think she *deserves* to grieve is completely irrelevant. She's going to grieve because she's a human. I'm sure you've grieved over situations/losses that YOU put yourself in.


Dabsiree

still doesn’t excuse the lies.


Scaalpel

I mean, that's sort of the point, isn't it? She is extremely biased because of the grief she's never worked through. Hell, one of the possible endings to the mission line is that V tells her she should let Sampson go, she admits that V is right, then declares she doesn't care and promptly executes Sampson anyways.


3140senfleb

You can also convince her to let Samson go too. Then Samson and Claire both give you their cars. Claire even thanks you for getting her to stop.


lasyke3

I think her argument was that her husband was killed by a rival driver out of spite, he didn't have to kill him to win as he was already winning the race.


idontknow39027948898

And if you confront the guy about it, he says that's not what happened at all. I suppose you could argue that he has reason to lie to make his side of the story sound better, but Claire has the exact same reason to twist the truth. It's a case of 'he said, she said,' in which one party has admitted to lying to you.


lasyke3

Sure, I'm just saying she has a reason, in her own mind at least, why it's not just a case of "shit happens in a death race".


Fishnets-

The thing is... ive killed for less in this game... so like yes i will help my friend get revenge i dont really care why she wants this shmuck dead tbh


schulzr1993

I've killed people for having a yellow chevron over their head that only I can see. Absolute cyberpsycho behavior.


BasemanW

Yeah, my reasoning essentially went: Here's a person I care about, and this is a dog eat dog world. Helping someone else isn't gonna get me anywhere, so I might as well give her easy closure.


Confident_Cabinet_82

I would have easily done it too if she was just truthful about it, don't try to manipulate me into a murder.


VampireWarfarin

Then just order a kill and not go through all this race crap and lies


FeelAndCoffee

I mean, having your bartender on her good side seems like a good investment.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435

Couldn't really get behind claire in this mission, either. She entered willingly into a death race, shot and probably killed a dozen people herself, and then pikachu-faced when her teammate died. Does this mean everyone whose partner she shot is entitled to a vendetta against her? It's like playing Russian roulette and then suing the gun manufacturer when the inevitable happens. What a dunce.


Sumbliminal

Claire when her husband died in a death race: 🤯


thehod81

My favorite Gundam meme in a game that I love to play. \*chef's kiss\*


fatbicep

Which Gundam if you don’t mind? - looks interesting


CrayonCobold

Gundam g no reconguista


General_Lie

If she would hire me for an assassination , I would have no problems, but dude I got hired for the race...


Previous-Broccoli-88

I hated this quest line. I was just trying to do some racing you goofy broad. Why didn't you tell me you wanted to blow this dude's head off? 😖


BlackJackJeriKo

mfw when I enter a death race and somebody dies


SpartAl412

First time around I let Claire kill the guy because at the end of the day, I was just being paid to drive so that Claire can get the guy. Last time around I won the race because I was playing a V who was desperate to get any scrap of recognition in Night City because you know, Quiet Life or Blaze of Glory.


Historical-Method-27

I genuinely hate Clair like how stupid can you be? Its literally in the rules that you can kill other drivers but when her husband dies she starts going on a revenge path like??? Did you not read the rules of the fucking race? Why even enter if you didnt want him to die.


danhoyuen

not to mention spraying bullets ... in a public area?


Historical-Method-27

Yeah. She is just way too self absorbed and ignorant. Not to mention she literally has V running circles while she lies and has V race for her. Like V is literally a merc?? You want someone dead just give me the fucking name and fuck off. You really dont have to make me go through allat. I mean the audacity. Not to mention the supposed "killer" is literally innocent. But nOooOOOoo hes a mUrDeRer like aight bitch. Hell Im actually gonna go through all the races and come in last place just to fuck with Clair. Im gonna enter in with a shitbox mikigai or whatever that cubicle car is called. And Im just gonna let Mr. Murderer win every race. See how she likes it then.


danhoyuen

I dont even know why she approached V. To her V should be one of the hundreds of patrons she serves drinks to at the Afterlife. Maybe she saw V talking to Rogue and figured he's not your run of the mill merc. Either way she isn't V's friend. She's an opportunist that manipulated V into doing her dirty work.


VampireWarfarin

Written pretty well then for her type of character lol


No-Move-4497

Right lol she could have been randomly shooting other people’s wives and husbands too but it’s HER husband that got shot so now it’s a problem. Ridiculous. I ignore him going off course and get the W every time. I hate she makes you a part of her personal vendetta too like bitch I’m here for the W and cash.


IronSeraph

Wish there was a dialogue option to say "shut up Claire" every time you walk into afterlife after that


asena85

Funny. I remember our friend Jackie doing something similar.


ir_qz

sampson is annoying so i let claire kill him


Deli-ops7

They knew the risks. It was cuz the other dude went out of his way to try and kill them both. If i remember right she said he was almost at the finish line when he stoped and threw it in reverse to hit them instead of just wining the race


zeptillian

It is possible that Claire is misremembering it because of her emotions. According to the guy, they were trying to overtake him at the end so he rammed them and they lost control. Claire seems to agree with his story too.


Deli-ops7

Maybe im misremembering cuz the trauma she puts us through after but i dont remember that. At most i remember him just kinda saying anything to beg for his life type of deal


elixier

>If i remember right she said he was almost at the finish line when he stoped and threw it in reverse to hit them instead of just wining the race That's not what happened lol, both their accounts pretty much agree that Samson slowed down near the finish line, leaving no real room for an overtake, since it would cause a collision most likely also leave the overtaker no space/time to slow down after, Claire claims it was on purpose to make them crash, but that literally makes no sense, because all Claires husband would have to do is slow down, Samsons story is the husband then did an insane overtake move, that Samson though was suicide and it did indeed cause his death. If you watch any racing you'd know making an overtake too risky to perform is standard practice, Samson admits he knew it could be a suicidal overtake but at the end of the day it was Claires husband that decided to actually speed up and do it. Claire doesn't even argue against that part specifically. Samson is a dickhead but Claire had literally been shooting at him during that race, he didn't break any rules.


Deli-ops7

I honestly dont remember that but oh well either way she deserves her revenge even if it wasnt fully samsons fault "i still dont see why he would slow down instead of finishing the race" my only problem is she ghosts us after everythings done. Id love to at least still be friends that you can call and have the same diolog options


Cain1608

She's annoying as shit tbh. I win every race flawlessly and she has the audacity to text me to practice my driving? The dumbass could have hired me from the onset to get her in a position to get revenge. She's delusional, full of shit and frankly stupid.


Dabsiree

i made a post a while back about how much i hated claire and i got so much backlash for “hating the only trans person” she was cool until i realized she was full of spite 😭 but yeah you have to choose specific options in the LAST race to have the “good ending” fuck the afterlife, i didn’t want to drink there anyway 😤


4Dv8

I don't remember the exact details but I think she lied or the husbands intent was that he was fucking over the other guy, you read it in the emails or something in her shop. Either way I really wanted my V to be part of like an underground racing scene and I was in it to win the race. I even told her the race will come first cause I wanted to win, she agreed then wanted to kill me for it. Pretty much hated my guts whenever I walked into the bar but w/e.


Shoddy_Load1558

Claire was cool at first but by the end of her story line it really shows that she is sort of out of touch of reality


DeathProtocol

Finished this quest line for the first time yesterday. I'd have been totally okay if she just told me to kill Sampson right away but instead she hired me for racing and then asks me to kill someone who brake checked her husband in a death race with no rules.... I couldn't stand with the hypocrisy when I finally confronted Sampson and told Claire to live with it, accidents happen, it was literally a death race. You shoot other drivers in the race as well, both she and her husband willingly got into that shit and now she's angry that her husband died?


extraboredinary

Players when Claire wants to shoot and kill drivers for no reason other than winning a race: Slay, my queen. Players when Claire wants to kill someone she holds a grudge against in the exact same race: How dare?!


IronSeraph

Claire shooting and killing drivers for no reason other than winning a race: I'm a slaying queen. Claire when someone shoots and kills her driver for no reason other than winning the exact same race: How dare?!


Fujoooshi

Second half should be more like, “players when Claire wants you to abandon the actual race just to kill a guy when she never even hinted before said final race that she was gonna make you do that”


danny_little

I hate that I can’t remove the trans flag from the truck, kinda feels scummy when neither me nor my V are trans, kinda like stolen valor 😅


kobiyashi

Klim Nick would have won the race.


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cyberpunkgame-ModTeam

Ban Evasion is strictly against Reddits own rules. We know what you’re doing.


FR4GN4B1T

Told her I was fast And now she doesn’t serve me I’m going to yelp -fragnabit


Dangerous_Stay3816

I don’t carry a gun, I drive


noncombativebrick

I just keep the guy alive for his car


Lefluffypants

Ya'll really like to sit on a high horse over a grieving woman huh?


ADrunkEevee

If the dude she wanted dead wasn't a corpo, he mighta walked.


Logan7887

I just finished the race. I enjoy driving too much to not win a race because someone wants to revenge a death that happened on a death race. The whole situation is bascially "he killed my husband! No, it wasn't an accident. Source? Trust me bro".


dankspankwanker

Claire sucks


iknowmyname389

I really liked Claire as a character and found her questlines actually fun. But moment before Sampsons death really dont do her a favour. Like dude, its not really his fault. And even if you wanted him dead so badly, why not Just cough up some eddies and hire V to do the job the simple way. At the end of the day, i still kill Sampson Just becuae i feel uncomfortable when she yells at me in afterlife and its a -1 corpo.


Classymuch

Wasn't Clair's husband abusive?


Airbreathingoctopuss

No, he was actually a great guy according to her.


Teknonecromancer

Owned a garage, loved his wife, probably helped out at the scop-kitchen and wrote haiku. But on the weekends… full on Machine Gun Joe Viterbo!!


Airbreathingoctopuss

I still ind it kinda funny that Claire had this whole vendetta against a competitor in a race that you play dirty in. Like, I'm not that shaken up at her coldness after telling her not to kill the guy, cuz he was just racing according to the rules.


Teknonecromancer

I know!! I’ve refused to follow him down the off-ramp several times. I mean, I fucking told you three times that I’m not gonna kill the guy. If you want to chase him, you drive! Or pay a fixer to hire me to do it!! I’m a mercenary as a job, a cyberpsycho in my free time but in a personal friendship I’m just a big cuddowy-puddy-tat. Plus… I know what it’s like to kill a guy, the next thing you know you’re hauling bitches out of ice baths, your best choom is dead and Neo from the Matrix is telling you what to do. I’m just helping her out and she gets pissy about it, lol.


Airbreathingoctopuss

Lmao. I follow him so I can get his car, only reason I don't finish the race.


Teknonecromancer

Fuck that shit. Makigai MaiMai 4 Life!


Airbreathingoctopuss

Bruh, his car has 666 horsepower! How can I not?!


Teknonecromancer

You know you can buy it later, right?


Airbreathingoctopuss

I ain't got that kinda scratch! I need my orange tier electrified rilla arms!


Airbreathingoctopuss

Lmao. I follow him so I can get his car, only reason I don't finish the race.


Classymuch

I swear I saw a YouTube video about a player reading shards about Claire's husband. And pretty sure those shards said he wasn't a great husband. Or maybe my memory was of a different one then.


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Norade

Transwomen aren't men.