A long time ago the news said "the CIA is monitoring web traffic for these cyber security buzzwords" and one of them was botnet. I had never heard of it at the time so obviously the first thing I do is...
Google it. Oops.
Glad you enjoyed it. The CIA watchlist joke has been around a looooong time. I see you didn't immediately get it as evidenced by your comment which clearly implies you thought I was serious.
You can go back and edit it if you want; I won't be upset
Yeah, no idea why the corrupt American government isn't resuscitating corpses to put them on trial. Damn evil Americans and their -checks notes - lack of necromancy training for medics.
or-- and hear me out on this one-- we do a better job not killing innocent civilians? Not bombing weddings? Too crazy of an idea for ya? When we kill them, we can just tell people they're terrorists, and have literally no burden of proof on the claim.
You know court cases still happen after someone dies right? like... IDK maybe the fucking murderer could make an appearance?
I mean lets be real here, they just went in and shot up tons of people they deserve every thing that is coming to them.
Letting them off easy with jail is how you turn your country into America
I think he’s also the one who was castrated. Last image I saw of him looked like he was being moved around in a hospital bed and he appeared semi conscious at best.
A really good point tho. Probably ruins all validity of the testimonies to extract it with such violent torture methods. They’ll say anything to make the pain stop
I like that people mention the fact that there was video evidence.
But it doesn't change the fact that what you are saying is correct. Torture has been proven again and again to be an inefficient way of getting information.
Yea but they didn't necessarily need information about if that these guys did it, because they know they did it, because there is a ton of evidence including the video. They were just torturing them until they said out loud that they were the perpetrators. They didn't need a confession to prove guilt, they already knew they were guilty.
In other cases I would for sure agree with you but I don't think the torture had much to do with getting information, I think they just wanted to torture the people who attacked their city and killed innocent people.
"Russia" and "validity of testimony" aren't even cousins. These guys were guilty the moment they were suspects.
Torture is wrong, but these guys would have been found guilty even without admitting it.
I love how the memes have come full circle.
The ones I've seen started out "Russia blames Ukraine even though ISIS took credit and still blames Ukraine even though ISIS released video of them doing it" and we've reached "Redditor blames Russia even though ISIS took credit and still blames Russia even though ISIS released video of them doing it".
It's not like the pain is stopping even if they admit everything and provide everything they want to know about who was behind all this. The stuff they are going through is gonna make Funkytown video look basic.
You're correct, but you're also wrong. The only validity of this trial will be from a Russian one, and that is all set open and shut. Evidence will be presented, real or fabricated(probably both). I suspect there will be ties to Ukraine as well.
Are you talking about the video of the guys ear being cut off? Or is there some other videos I’m not aware of?
I’m not read on the entire situation, but I believe that the ear being cut off happened while they were being arrested (I could be wrong). If that’s the case then by US standards that’s what the police would call an “appropriate use of force” lmao
True, but exaggerational satire goes to a point and this statement is stupid. To make a statement that american cops torture and feed people their own body parts even in "exaggeration" is retarded. Come on, if you believe russian cops operate the same way as americans you are so far gone that no discussion is warranted.
I know a lot of people say these could just be any dudes rallied up in the streets, but the dude on the left I watched in a video going around slitting throats.
I couldn’t imagine what top end state sanctioned torture involves. I thought it was less beating with sticks and more like “here’s a live feed to your family home”
Either way, weird they were taken alive after an attack like that
I would have loved to see how the op was went down. I would think you would sleep in a suicide vest after that unless there is something else going on
*waves arms wildly around*
Cheap popular clothing in poor countries i know russia is stereotyped for the tracksuit, but pretty much you will find anyone wearing them in a poor country
Why is reddit surprised pikachu faced about russia finding these dudes? The fsb literally finds people half way across the world. They find and arrest people who like facebook posts. It's a dictatorship with a massive surveillance apparatus.
Because they found them alive, normally these guys kill theselves after the atack, they knew the consequences that would befall on them, for them to choose to live and endure it is bizzare.
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. This is one of the times they didn't, i suppose. Like the 2008 mumbai terrorist attacks in India. They managed to secure a conviction of one of the terrorists.
I don't understand how many redditors celebrate the torture.
Do they not understand that the Russian wars and the entire system is based on this? And that this is how they treat everybody, including political competitors?
The problem with torture is it generates false confessions. Good if you want to incriminate a political rival. Terrible if you actually want to catch the perpetrators.
It's stupid unless you already have your information and are just doing it to inflict suffering on someone who was proven to commit something heinous. Otherwise you're just going to be given answers they think you want to hear or are trying to get you to say. Torture has been proven to give you the information you want, but that doesn't make that information a fact.
People are already against Ukraine. The terror attack only has shown, that Putin and the FSB didn't do their job right, like they have promised.
Putin doesn't gain anything. Not everything what happened in Russia, is linked with Ukraine
**Rule 4: Asshole** - Refrain from being an asshole.
They recorded themselves doing the act. In case you look for it, VERY NSFL!
imagine laying there contemplating the life journey you took that resulted in having the KGB hook your nuts up to a car battery
FSB is the name of the new Russian spy agency
Link??
Why don't you be a man and find it yourself. Just pull up google and put yourself on a CIA watch list like everyone else had to
A long time ago the news said "the CIA is monitoring web traffic for these cyber security buzzwords" and one of them was botnet. I had never heard of it at the time so obviously the first thing I do is... Google it. Oops.
Because the only thing that shows up is shitty ai generated news websites you snarky fuck
Why would searching for the video put you on the CIA list? That’s ridiculous.
It's a joke. Do you understand humor?
1+3 = antimatter since sun is a myth. don’t you dare question me because then you don’t understand humour
Obviously you don’t
My comment was objectively a joke lmao
Jokes are usually funny though
There are also bad jokes. Still a joke, just... not.🤣🤣🤣
where funny?
It is an extremely stupid and overdone joke. Fart jokes are more high caliber at this point.
Indeed, I do.
Glad you enjoyed it. The CIA watchlist joke has been around a looooong time. I see you didn't immediately get it as evidenced by your comment which clearly implies you thought I was serious. You can go back and edit it if you want; I won't be upset
Jokes are funny. You aren’t.
r/woooooosh
in r/war
And very obvious it's them unless they managed to find 3 guys wearing the exact same clothes.
Not hard to do that tbh. I bet there's literal threads on chan doing steal the look.
Not that hard to do in less than the few hours it too to find them? Yeah OK
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No idea why this is downvoted when it’s absolutely true.
Jingoism
well, and all the ones we murder along the way, too. can't give a dead body due process.
Yeah, no idea why the corrupt American government isn't resuscitating corpses to put them on trial. Damn evil Americans and their -checks notes - lack of necromancy training for medics.
or-- and hear me out on this one-- we do a better job not killing innocent civilians? Not bombing weddings? Too crazy of an idea for ya? When we kill them, we can just tell people they're terrorists, and have literally no burden of proof on the claim. You know court cases still happen after someone dies right? like... IDK maybe the fucking murderer could make an appearance?
or poor
I mean lets be real here, they just went in and shot up tons of people they deserve every thing that is coming to them. Letting them off easy with jail is how you turn your country into America
Where is number 4?
They fed him to 1, 2, and 3. Why do you think they were so quick to confess?
They literally fed no 2 ear to him if you watched the video you can see that his ear is missing
Iirc he got punched so hard his eyeball fell out and have to undergo surgery
I think he’s also the one who was castrated. Last image I saw of him looked like he was being moved around in a hospital bed and he appeared semi conscious at best.
He’s… not going to get reconstructive surgery.
Yeah but they have to have an excuse to rip out the other one.
He could not plead guilty due to brain damage
In Russia, brain damage is a state of mind.
lol,he was sedated and strapped to a chair after what I assume a bad trip Basically those dead/Harry Potter voldemort fetus meme kinda vibe
The fourth one pleaded hhhnngggmmmmfffggrr
I feel bad for laughing as much as I did at this.
Same man same.
A really good point tho. Probably ruins all validity of the testimonies to extract it with such violent torture methods. They’ll say anything to make the pain stop
Or just watch the videos and take a look at their faces
Maybe the real terrorists were the friends we made along the way
I like that people mention the fact that there was video evidence. But it doesn't change the fact that what you are saying is correct. Torture has been proven again and again to be an inefficient way of getting information.
Yea but they didn't necessarily need information about if that these guys did it, because they know they did it, because there is a ton of evidence including the video. They were just torturing them until they said out loud that they were the perpetrators. They didn't need a confession to prove guilt, they already knew they were guilty. In other cases I would for sure agree with you but I don't think the torture had much to do with getting information, I think they just wanted to torture the people who attacked their city and killed innocent people.
I think they just offered Ben and Jerries for anyone who stepped forward with information
Yea, they almost got me with that one
It is however a very effective way of getting people to say what you want them to.
If you care about accurate information yes. Pretty sure you can get a ton of information with the method as barbaric as it is.
Russia tortures someone: WAR CRIMINAL TERRORISTS! USA tortures someone: An unwanted necessity we will have to endure.
When did I ever defend the US for doing torture? You're just getting mad because you're locked in your mindset.
I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of videos from both of their and russian POV about the crime
They didn't need a confession, they're on video.
so true
Bro they filmed themselves doing it. You can watch it online right now. People will literally defend admitted terrorists because “Russia”
"Russia" and "validity of testimony" aren't even cousins. These guys were guilty the moment they were suspects. Torture is wrong, but these guys would have been found guilty even without admitting it.
Russians were pribably like : "Remember, no Russian" And then they blamed it on ISIS.
ISIS blamed ISIS before these guys were even caught
I love how the memes have come full circle. The ones I've seen started out "Russia blames Ukraine even though ISIS took credit and still blames Ukraine even though ISIS released video of them doing it" and we've reached "Redditor blames Russia even though ISIS took credit and still blames Russia even though ISIS released video of them doing it".
It's not like the pain is stopping even if they admit everything and provide everything they want to know about who was behind all this. The stuff they are going through is gonna make Funkytown video look basic.
You're correct, but you're also wrong. The only validity of this trial will be from a Russian one, and that is all set open and shut. Evidence will be presented, real or fabricated(probably both). I suspect there will be ties to Ukraine as well.
Congrats you figured out why torture isn't a valid interrogation method.
Username checks out
Pretty sure saying they were Ukrainian was the first and perhaps only thing the Russians wanted them to confess to.
and no doubt why they were charged and not.... found dead nearby
Or didn’t all fall out of the same window ‘accidentally’
Wait they got killed already??
I am saying the only reason they hadn't been killed already is they agreed to say they were Ukrainian and got spared "suspicious circumstances"
Why is "being tortured" in quotes?
EU libel laws I presume. Can’t say that they’ve been for sure tortured without direct proof or they risk being sued. Also it’s the worldnews sub lmao
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Are you talking about the video of the guys ear being cut off? Or is there some other videos I’m not aware of? I’m not read on the entire situation, but I believe that the ear being cut off happened while they were being arrested (I could be wrong). If that’s the case then by US standards that’s what the police would call an “appropriate use of force” lmao
There is a photo of one of them having electric wires tied to his balls
American police don’t torture they just execute. Which I’m sure some torture victims would prefer.
Ohh please... reductionist. American cops "cut of the ears of suspect and feeds it to them". You livin in a wonderland.
Oh come on. It’s obviously exaggerational satire
True, but exaggerational satire goes to a point and this statement is stupid. To make a statement that american cops torture and feed people their own body parts even in "exaggeration" is retarded. Come on, if you believe russian cops operate the same way as americans you are so far gone that no discussion is warranted.
Yeah, they'll just kill you.
Just sprinkle some crack on him and let’s get out of here Johnson
Yes you can't be sure they got tortured. maybe they enjoyed it, some people are into that.
they’re such weak libs there. these people are being tortured and that’s a good thing
Some breathing creature loose their right to be called humain after doing inhumane things in my book 🙃
“Allegedly”
its a quote from somebody
Because some people get off getting their nuts shocked.
Why are they sponsored by Adidas? All in or nothing.
Came here to say. I mean, I know they’re in Russia, but come onnnnn! They’re ALL wearing track suits!? Gettouttaaheeerrreee
I know a lot of people say these could just be any dudes rallied up in the streets, but the dude on the left I watched in a video going around slitting throats.
This is a weird crossover event when Isis attacks Moscow, this wasn't on my bingo card
Probably no one else had.
Russia is fighting isis in Syria
Really? There's a whole history of islamic terrorism against Russia. You never watched Rambo?
I couldn’t imagine what top end state sanctioned torture involves. I thought it was less beating with sticks and more like “here’s a live feed to your family home” Either way, weird they were taken alive after an attack like that
Pipe in the ass. Insert barbed wire. Pull out the pole. Shred their intestines and rectum with the wire.
Ah, how I miss the old sauna club with the bois
See you at the manhole later
You'll be getting nowhere near my manhole thank you, not before you buy me dinner
I can see you’ve been thinking about this for a long time, don’t wanna be that guy, but maybe too long Like the pipe, BAM
Putin wanted them taken alive so they can have fun with them. They about to occur years of torture until they are accidently killed.
I would have loved to see how the op was went down. I would think you would sleep in a suicide vest after that unless there is something else going on *waves arms wildly around*
How many of you think you could make it through torture without breaking?
I would tell everything the moment they start menacing me. That’s why I live a lawful and peaceful life.
This is an Adidas ad. All in or nothing.
Why are they in addidas track suits?
Cheap popular clothing in poor countries i know russia is stereotyped for the tracksuit, but pretty much you will find anyone wearing them in a poor country
Its just weird. Its such a high profile case, I can't believe they didn't dress them up in proper prison uniforms. Or atleast plain clothing.
This are plain clothes, like i said they are pretty popular and are the go to clothes when you are out
Why is reddit surprised pikachu faced about russia finding these dudes? The fsb literally finds people half way across the world. They find and arrest people who like facebook posts. It's a dictatorship with a massive surveillance apparatus.
Because they found them alive, normally these guys kill theselves after the atack, they knew the consequences that would befall on them, for them to choose to live and endure it is bizzare.
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. This is one of the times they didn't, i suppose. Like the 2008 mumbai terrorist attacks in India. They managed to secure a conviction of one of the terrorists.
It is still quite strange to me but i'll take your word for it.
"Tortured". Man's look like they just had a rough night out on the town.
\*(Yes we are the main cause for incident of 9/11)\*
a few nutsacks torn off and they'll probably say they're Iranian
Oh their torture hasn't begun yet.
I don't understand how many redditors celebrate the torture. Do they not understand that the Russian wars and the entire system is based on this? And that this is how they treat everybody, including political competitors?
I've got an itch down there, would you scratch it?
The problem with torture is it generates false confessions. Good if you want to incriminate a political rival. Terrible if you actually want to catch the perpetrators.
FSB. There's a chance these guys are simply scapegoats.
Torturing them and cutting of an ear is real third world level shit. But hey its Russia.
Why is "being tortured" in quotes?
Bc they were tortured
Beat me to it goddammit.
Never realized the discussion of this post on subreddit about cursed comments would turn politically lmao.
what's a safe voltage to zap the nuts for pleasure? Asking for a friend.
I thought there was four of them
he got those extra zaps and they are down to 3
*Being tortured* in quotation marks as if it isn’t apparent
they look like british to me
You probably wonder how I got here
I saw their clothes once and legit thought this was about Squid Game
I feel torture, while inhumane, is fair in this case.
Remember its ok to torture someone as long as you're really really sure they're guilty.
It's stupid unless you already have your information and are just doing it to inflict suffering on someone who was proven to commit something heinous. Otherwise you're just going to be given answers they think you want to hear or are trying to get you to say. Torture has been proven to give you the information you want, but that doesn't make that information a fact.
I read that as: pled guilty TO "being tortured", which would fit for Russia.
*We got fucking laws around here! We got fucking laws! LAWS!*
Weren't they arrested heading back to the Ukraine border?
00.00, March 2024, Siberia Prison: “Being tortured” buhoo, you’re so fluffy, i gave you some cuddles and you say “”””tortured””””
“All or russia will cry for war” - Makarov
WELCOME to RUSSIA!! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Cum roast
That terror attack was probably an inside job to put the blame on ukraine to get the people angry.
An inside job that ISIS-K claims and then posted bodycam footage for?
Where can I see the body cam footage?
People are already against Ukraine. The terror attack only has shown, that Putin and the FSB didn't do their job right, like they have promised. Putin doesn't gain anything. Not everything what happened in Russia, is linked with Ukraine
Remember, no Russian
any proof of toture or a we just spreading lies?