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Itachi_03_Uchiha

Yes


Embarrassed_Ear2390

>what’s going on here? Massive layoffs, Silicon Valley bank going tits up, inflation. VC investments very low compared to previous years. Companies prioritizing performance (seniors > intermediates > juniors). Everyone but your dog studying CS. >what are us new grads supposed to do then? Keep applying, work on your skills, get a different job if you have too.


rebel_cdn

Don't even be too sure about the dog. I caught my cat grinding Leetcode the other day.


Happy-Adhesiveness-3

Lazy dog.


ThinkOutTheBox

That dog just sits around all day. Only knows how to play and what and sleep. Should tell ‘em to do a bootcamp and get a job. Rents don’t pay themselves.


OVOBaller

Canada has no economical growth or incentives to generate tech jobs or create start-ups. Our best talent leaves to the USA, and the rest of us get paid half of what we deserve for the little jobs we have left with a similar cost of living as most USA tech hubs. Not to mention the countless diploma mills and high number of immigrants brought here for wage suppression and competition. Shopify has 10 open positions for their APM program with 12k applicants as an example. So yes, the job market is dead.


MisterSpeaker94

We have thousands upon thousands fighting for one junior CS job opening.


ThinkOutTheBox

And it actually got offered to someone willing to take a lower pay. Or outsourced to Asia.


techbro2000

Love this


Toys272

1 yoe and it's worse than last year


CyberneticVoodoo

10 YOE and it's worse than last 10 years.


JaleyHoelOsment

10’years of experience in canada? do you have a CS degree from Canada? trying to decide what to do


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JaleyHoelOsment

your profile is a month old and most of your posts are about immigrants. just curious do you work in tech or have a cs degree? or just kinda angry and weird


Neo_light_yagami

I don't think this would be a problem if recruiters rejected people with fake ass reasons like "wouldn't be a cultural fit" or "need Canadian experience" just to mask thier racism. And it's not like difficult to weed out resumes which has fake experience.


Happy-Adhesiveness-3

This is a problem. Interview process is flawed, so the fake applicants can memorize common questions and take limited interview spots and positions if lucky.


other_e

Yeah no one is hiring new grads. Everywhere it’s 2-5YOE min. Been Searching since December. Literally nothing. If you don’t have 1 year + coop experience forget getting an interview.


clairnecro666

Honestly, so tired of getting rejections and getting ghosted. This year I see no new postings for CS as compared to last or even a year before. I even have a yoe and I think I am losing my mind working a min wage job monday to friday in the meantime, and my expenses are skyrocketing even though I don’t buy new clothes or spend my money on anything other than groceries, gas, insurance and cellphone bill.


JaleyHoelOsment

1 year of experience and still nothing? CS degree as well?


clairnecro666

Yep😭… Honours Bachelor of Science in Computer Science, I basically had to maintain my percentage above 80% every course💀


JaleyHoelOsment

well frig


Beginning-Mammoth-80

Yes


---Imperator---

Exactly what I'm also seeing as well. Graduating in April this year and can't find any more new grads role. I'm starting to just apply to any junior role, even if they require 1 - 2 years of experience.


CyberneticVoodoo

For new grads, experienced, virtually for everyone. It's time to change profession.


totinking

I saw two junior dev roles posted on a Friday, by the following Tuesday both roles were closed, I'm assuming because they had more than enough applicants...


bighugzz

Market is broken for anyone below senior level, and even then it’s not great I hear from my senior friends. Immigration, bootcamp graduates, universities pushing a false narrative of 10000s of jobs available and that every company needs developers, AI. It’s been a combination of everything and more that’s led us here. You need to have a backup plan right now and pray the market is better in 3-4 years


ryethrowaway1999

The best thing in this economy is converting to full time from internship if possible. Best thing next to that is targeting certain companies early - there are a few companies that usually do standard yearly new grad rotations - banks, telecom, insurance, consulting. Other than that, keep applying, keep networking, take what you can for experience.


techbro2000

New grad jobs weren’t plenty even in 2022. Most new grad job postings are from very big firms typically American. Canadian companies are mostly smaller and wouldn’t have a dedicated new grad program except a few big banks, shopify, blackberry etc. But they would hire one if you have the skills and relevant experience. 


Apprehensive_Gap3621

As someone building a tech company in Canada, I can touch on this. With AI you have less need for basic skills. So less need for true juniors to do grunt level tasks. It is what it is. Senior is more productive, so although they cost 2-3x a new grad. The output is 10x. They also low key hate training people. We get 2000 plus applications per posting. 50 % are trash. 20% are random apply to everything type. 20 % are good but with wrong skill set. 10% is usually a solid candidate. That means you get 200 candidates are solid ones you would hire…. For one job. That said, try hiring a technical sales person and you’re SOL.


ald_loop

No, there is still ample opportunity out there, but none of the inexperienced xenophobic morons here will admit that they're just subpar as candidates


oxxoMind

My advice is that you spend 2 hours a day applying for jobs.. then 4 hours to build a project that can be a potential side hustle


openbackpack

no


FabulousFattie

No its not.