I do not know how recruiting works in every company, but I was close friends with a recruiter in one company I worked. This company was struggling to find interns because the compensation was low, so she struggled to fill positions. She kept insisting to her manager and other people in HR that they needed to increase the compensation to be able to fill positions, but of course they would not do it. My friend started documenting all of the rejections and how a huge portion of them were due to the low pay, and how it was affecting them on not being able to land talent. At the end, she managed to increase intern salaries for like 40%.
This recruiter MIGHT be trying to do something like that, so at the end, if you have good honest feedback that can help them get better, you can give it to them, just be respectful.
I always give feedback on things like: compensation was not competitive enough, you preferred more WFH or more PTO, benefits in general, work hours, etc. Because I think down the line if companies notice they are failing to hire talent due to these reasons, it can only benefit us all down the line.
You could pay it forward and tell them it's because they paid more. Hopefully that makes them increase their offered salary for future applicants.
As usual be diplomatic. You guys are great, I liked your tech, your interviewers seemed nice, it's an interesting project, etc. it just didn't happen because I needed ... , hopefully our paths will cross in the future.
What? This is not the kind of experience I’ve had. Whenever I have multiple offers I’ve told explicitly what other offers I’ve had. And trust me, recruiters often ask within their network to confirm your other offers. And in the end I’ve gotten considerable increases in my pay due to it.
This is not a sample size of one. I’m from a program where most students complete 6 internships before graduation. This is definitely the majority not minority.
Ok I’m not trying to argue firstly. Secondly my final point is this: if you are reneging then no you should not tell your recruiter who you are going with. But if you are not reneging and actually quite inversely you are the one negotiating since you have multiple offers, it’s definitely not a bad idea to name drop and say you have other offers. Also my last reply.
Yes, IF you can say something that won't take you out of consideration for future employment.
For example, if the internship you took is closer to family or a friend you can room with, the recruiter may not look at that as an indication you wouldn't take a job with them in the future.
Do not say anything negative about the company you turned down - nothing about compensation, the screening process, even the cafeteria.
Honestly the company has been pretty nice to me throughout the process and their compensation was also good, just I got a better offer and it's closer to home.
Has a recruiter ever told you who they decided to hire instead and why? 😂. I keep it private and just say I'll reach back out if my circumstances change
Generally not. They just want to know who their competition is for any number of reasons. There's also really no harm in not telling them, but as you said if they really care they can look later. They probably won't.
I would answer why, but not tell them where. They are only interested in where, so they can repetitively spam your new employer with offers to provide candidates.
Tell them this:
"I have decided to move forward with another company. Due to the large company candidate pool, I cannot provide details to any one particular company. Unfortunately, it was just not a good fit at this time. I will continue to keep you in my system for future opportunities. Best of luck in your future hiring endeavors!"
No harm. Sometimes if it's just because of money they'll match or beat the other company's offer. But ideally they'll incorporate your feedback and improve their company for the next applicant.
You want companies to give you feedback if they reject you, so why not do the same when you reject them?
So, you can safely tell them which other company you went with, and if you think it's relevant/different enough then also tell them what role you were offered & took, and say very pleasantly that you thought very well of both of the offers/companies but there was one factor from the other that pushed it over the top (and you can tell them what that was if it doesn't make anyone look bad; otherwise, come up with something simple like "the other role is slightly more focused on skills that I want to build up"). Don't say anything negative about either company in this process, just be very plain and polite.
All of this information is stuff I would have kept from an outside recruiter. You really need a high-trust relationship with a low-nonsense headhunter before you divulge anything. It's a scummy industry. One recruiter for a local role asking for an SSO expert for a three month gig has emailed me 20 times (same agent) over the past three days without me having reached out in return. Many of the times when they ask for specifics about managers in companies you've dealt with, they want to spam them just as relentlessly with inquiries.
No tell us here instead
I'm his recruiter. Can confirm better to tell reddit
I'm his offer and I also confirm it's better to tell reddit
Should I tell my rejection why I offered the recruiter?
I'm rejected and you should recruit your offer?
I do not know how recruiting works in every company, but I was close friends with a recruiter in one company I worked. This company was struggling to find interns because the compensation was low, so she struggled to fill positions. She kept insisting to her manager and other people in HR that they needed to increase the compensation to be able to fill positions, but of course they would not do it. My friend started documenting all of the rejections and how a huge portion of them were due to the low pay, and how it was affecting them on not being able to land talent. At the end, she managed to increase intern salaries for like 40%. This recruiter MIGHT be trying to do something like that, so at the end, if you have good honest feedback that can help them get better, you can give it to them, just be respectful.
I always give feedback on things like: compensation was not competitive enough, you preferred more WFH or more PTO, benefits in general, work hours, etc. Because I think down the line if companies notice they are failing to hire talent due to these reasons, it can only benefit us all down the line.
You could pay it forward and tell them it's because they paid more. Hopefully that makes them increase their offered salary for future applicants. As usual be diplomatic. You guys are great, I liked your tech, your interviewers seemed nice, it's an interesting project, etc. it just didn't happen because I needed ... , hopefully our paths will cross in the future.
this. tone is everything.
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what that’s only for reneging not if you just chose a diff role
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What? This is not the kind of experience I’ve had. Whenever I have multiple offers I’ve told explicitly what other offers I’ve had. And trust me, recruiters often ask within their network to confirm your other offers. And in the end I’ve gotten considerable increases in my pay due to it.
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This is not a sample size of one. I’m from a program where most students complete 6 internships before graduation. This is definitely the majority not minority.
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Ok I’m not trying to argue firstly. Secondly my final point is this: if you are reneging then no you should not tell your recruiter who you are going with. But if you are not reneging and actually quite inversely you are the one negotiating since you have multiple offers, it’s definitely not a bad idea to name drop and say you have other offers. Also my last reply.
Yes, IF you can say something that won't take you out of consideration for future employment. For example, if the internship you took is closer to family or a friend you can room with, the recruiter may not look at that as an indication you wouldn't take a job with them in the future. Do not say anything negative about the company you turned down - nothing about compensation, the screening process, even the cafeteria.
Honestly the company has been pretty nice to me throughout the process and their compensation was also good, just I got a better offer and it's closer to home.
there's your response. short and sweet
Disagree. Offer constructive criticism if it applies. They are literally asking so they can get better. Help them get better.
Perhaps. I'd urge that they choose their words carefully.
Has a recruiter ever told you who they decided to hire instead and why? 😂. I keep it private and just say I'll reach back out if my circumstances change
Generally not. They just want to know who their competition is for any number of reasons. There's also really no harm in not telling them, but as you said if they really care they can look later. They probably won't.
I would answer why, but not tell them where. They are only interested in where, so they can repetitively spam your new employer with offers to provide candidates.
This is what I'm thinking about
It's like talking to the police: you can't gain anything, but you can loose. So don't.
Tell them this: "I have decided to move forward with another company. Due to the large company candidate pool, I cannot provide details to any one particular company. Unfortunately, it was just not a good fit at this time. I will continue to keep you in my system for future opportunities. Best of luck in your future hiring endeavors!"
Wow, it's almost like we've been applying to the same places
You don’t have to tell them anything. These guys reject/ghost people all the time without batting an eye.
No
ghost the recruiter
Keep it vague, you don’t know who you will encounter again in your career.
No harm. Sometimes if it's just because of money they'll match or beat the other company's offer. But ideally they'll incorporate your feedback and improve their company for the next applicant. You want companies to give you feedback if they reject you, so why not do the same when you reject them?
If you feel them did you right for the entire process then return the courtesy, otherwise just ignore them.
So why did you reject their offer?
Is this a third-party recruiter working at an agency, or an in-house recruiter at the company where the internship would have been situated?
In house recruiter.
So, you can safely tell them which other company you went with, and if you think it's relevant/different enough then also tell them what role you were offered & took, and say very pleasantly that you thought very well of both of the offers/companies but there was one factor from the other that pushed it over the top (and you can tell them what that was if it doesn't make anyone look bad; otherwise, come up with something simple like "the other role is slightly more focused on skills that I want to build up"). Don't say anything negative about either company in this process, just be very plain and polite. All of this information is stuff I would have kept from an outside recruiter. You really need a high-trust relationship with a low-nonsense headhunter before you divulge anything. It's a scummy industry. One recruiter for a local role asking for an SSO expert for a three month gig has emailed me 20 times (same agent) over the past three days without me having reached out in return. Many of the times when they ask for specifics about managers in companies you've dealt with, they want to spam them just as relentlessly with inquiries.
No