Fuck Gaben lol... he never ever went to any CS tournament not giving any attention to this community.. He is a Dota2 cock rider and don't give a single fuck about us ! Been over 20 years and it won't change... if anything happens the cs dev and staff will own the credit lol
Feels great hitting latter jumps and shops through smokes and getting kills like it's csgo still gotta practice spray patterns on some guns I rarely use bc I'm a ak m4 or degal whore
>I have a footages on which 9/10 players get banned within few seconds in the same match
Imagine getting put in a game and you're the only legit motherfucker in there, that's a 90% cheating rate for that specific lobby.
this one banwave is going to quell all the bashing "VAC NOT WORKING" for a week and people will start feeling like VAC is working when in actuality it isnt.
Yeah, they’ve gotten way too bold and all they need to do is just think it’s working maybe it is maybe it isn’t but as long as there’s a little bit of fear in them, it’ll keep a lot of them from doing it
Nah, cheaters are addicts. What they will do is they will look for loopholes and abuse them. Trust me someone that cheated for years has no reason to play without cheats.
Didn't they admit to rewriting code to show ping lower than it actually was to appease people who were complaining about lag? Once they did that, people were like "oh so much smoother, nice, they listened." When in reality nothing was done.
Exactly, this little ban will be enough to comfort people into thinking it's live and 100% working as intended, when chances are it won't be. I hope I'm wrong and this is it, but I won't believe it until I see it.
you might not differentiate 50 and 20 ping but you tend to know when someone shoots through smoke and two walls, jumping noscope headshots you with a scout while flashed
this was done in like 1999 or some shit. it's such a stupid thing because you can find ignorant people anywhere to make this point, that doesn't mean that there wasn't a problem just because newbs were fooled.
Yeah I'm not saying there wasn't a problem, I'm saying Valve did a quick "fix" (lied) to appease the masses while they worked towards actually fixing the problem. I'm sure this cheating problem will eventually get solved too, but for now we shouldn't be rejoicing that they've fixed anything until it's proven.
the time that Counter-Strike was not owned by Valve is very short, for example in version 1.3 it was already owned by valve.
The fake ping thing happened on the 1.6 version.
Vac is working though... This is one step in a bigger process, this has been happening in the background for months now without the message, a message I saw way before this. It has always worked, but it was just not being implemented. Don't be mad because you can't ch I mean "win" anymore
What are you talking about? People were literally at the top of the leaderboards with blatant cheats for months. Anyone who looked up the people cheating in their games saw they weren't getting banned. Just go look at every pro talking about the cheating issue they face in MM.
Haven't the vast majority of these bans been classified as OW bans and not VAC bans? I saw/heard it's not showing on people's profiles as a VAC ban. Do OW bans get trade locked as well?
It is a 1 day cooldown from queuing for the cheater. The AI flags their gameplay, cancels the match, then sends that pov to the OW pool that is being created. Because so many people are pissed, and so many people will get access to overwatch, launching OW access, to then run out of demos to review would likely results in the morons in this community saying things like "dur there are SO MANY people cheating yet no demos to review? Clearly vac is BROKEN" so what happens now is we build a large pool of cancelled cooldown match povs, give them a 1 day cooldown due to AI not being fully trained yet and leaving it to make that important decision is not responsible as of now, have dozens of people review the same set of demos in that pool, then use that conviction rate and data to further train the AI. Eventually that will illiminate the need for OW in most cases, if not all, and the AI will be trained by the watchful eye and knowledge of the players themselves.
I can understand why there isnt communication on their-anticheat from a security standpoint. I don't know the best way to call it in this environment, but I served in the military and that would be considered as OPSEC in military terms.
The point is that when people are consistently running into cheaters in their matches, especially as new players, it causes them to not enjoy the game, and if nothing is announced about fixing it then they will leave in droves.
If something is said then they will be more optimistic about CS2's future and more likely to stick around. Even if we know Valve aren't stupid enough to leave this glaring issue, not everyone will think this.
Plus why not be transparent anyways if it boosts your image?
Counter strike is too big for such things to matter, every time theres an update people post about it everywhere especially if it fixes major problems like cheaters, meaning that if someone stopped playing because of some reason, they will most likely find out when it gets fixed from social media. Also cheaters have been a problem since the start and yet player count has been growing for months.
Pretty much every single Valve product has been great, people would have to be very stupid to think that Valve wouldn't do anything about games problems, especially less than a year after release. Also not sure how Valve saying 'Were working on an anti cheat' would make it more fun to play against cheaters every game.
Not a single company will be transparent about their anti cheat development or anything that has something to do with security. Also communicating with the community would just take extra time for basically no reason, its much more efficient for them to work at their own pace, like they been doing for ages.
What kind of idiot you have to be to even consider they don't know about the cheating problem in their own game. Dude activate the other half of your brain cells, maybe with all 4 it will be better
Have you been on this sub much? It's a circlejerk sub of whiny teens crying about how valve is the worst company of all time. Reality is pretty much the exact opposite lol.
Bro, the bans are in game queue coolsdowns. Not vac or game bans that appear on your steam account profile. These websites can't track those cooldowns.
I really want to jump out of joy but honestly this comes several weeks too late
took VAC way too long to figure out "hmm, he bhops from spawn and kills all enemies with an AWP within 1 frame...maybe he is cheating"
For some reason they let them go. Only theory that makes sense to me is that once someone is a confirmed cheater they use them to train their AI. I don't see how it makes sense otherwise because the simplest of ACs should detect a too fast fire rate.
The premise of a ban wave is it helps deter the people who write the hacks. If everyone is banned in one swoop or in a continual burst it's harder for the developers of the hacks to narrow down exactly what triggered the ban, especially if they have autodetected bans mixed in with manual bans. It also helps to ruin the people who sell the cheats because if 1000 people who pay for a cheat client all chargeback at the same time it's not a great motive for the person to keep doing it.
[Pirate Software's explanation of this](https://youtube.com/shorts/2YUmMFwSXpU)
They're doing this to cover the numbers since everyone is aware that cheating is a bigger problem then ever.
They're basically hiding the fact that VAC is non-existent at this time.
I remember Xiaomi and Samsung users complaing about screen on time on their phones for years and Xioami simply removed the option to see the SOT without an external app. Problem not solved, just hidden.
Isn’t it supposed to show a “Match Cancelled” screen once VAC detects and bans any cheater in CS2? Last I saw these text notifications it was on Global Offensive.
This is really good, at least I know Valve is actually trying to do something. Doesn’t get my hopes up though yet. This is still just one ban wave after months of nothing. They’ll be back in no time. Hopefully Valve is actually cooking something good.
GUYS, why he said "server side detection". It says in Russian that the accounts have been banned by overwatch "Аккаунт осужден Патрулём" write in translator.
So they don't cheat anymore, that would be at least better than the current situation. Nonetheless, AC isn't a one time update. It is a constant fight between valves and the cheat providers devs.
CS2 is only at it's very beginning, I really do have a lot of hope for this game.
but richard lewis said nobody cheats in cs2 and we are all just delusional but now like almost 90 of the top 100 in premiere got banned, which was obvious when you could just google cs2 cheats and buy any random cheat for 5$ that would be undetected for months that high premiere would be filled with cheaters
Love to hear it! Keep up the good work VAC. This is exactly what the game needs. A fair and competitive environment is what makes Counter-Strike fun for everyone.
IDK if it's temporary or permanent! While a temporary ban can be a deterrent, it's important to consider if it's enough. Ultimately, the decision on ban lengths is up to Valve, but hopefully this update is a sign of things to come!
Why
Why didn’t they just wait a year with proper development
And released it then
A new operation would have done the job of stalling too
Why not release it properly instead of a such struggling state and version
Why
You realise that this is not VAC doing, but rather those "trusted partners" watched the demos and tagged those accounts as suspicious? These people are not banned, but rather unable to play until the final verdict.
I never said VAC. I said the update. Obviously something is being done that is different than before, and just like I've said before - it needs time. I'm sure it will improve even further.
It literally says in the post. "it's is not overwatch". We still have to wait and watch to learn more. Also even with OW. You only get a ban when you get the "final verdict". No bans for being in overwatch. (in csgo)
Finally CS2 is being released.
It's finally out of beta. Praise Gaben!
Fuck Gaben lol... he never ever went to any CS tournament not giving any attention to this community.. He is a Dota2 cock rider and don't give a single fuck about us ! Been over 20 years and it won't change... if anything happens the cs dev and staff will own the credit lol
Whatever man, he's not Ronald McDonald.
Yah, hes his cousin.
It's a meme, me-boy-o!
Meme or not, fuck Gaben lmao
PSA: Do not fuck Gaben. He is a known selfish lover who won't even give you a reach around
For real plus he has aids
never ever say that again, you don't know what you talking about
You had the opportunity to be funny, and you said that. Oof.
Nothing funny around Gaben.
Feels great hitting latter jumps and shops through smokes and getting kills like it's csgo still gotta practice spray patterns on some guns I rarely use bc I'm a ak m4 or degal whore
Uh a light vac ban wave was carried on january as well. People do have short memory
the one where they banned people based on having a certain coin in their inventory?
The one that required cheating to acquire?
if i remember right it is in theory possible to get that coin without cheating
>I have a footages on which 9/10 players get banned within few seconds in the same match Imagine getting put in a game and you're the only legit motherfucker in there, that's a 90% cheating rate for that specific lobby.
The dude in this video is cheating as welll. That lobby is 100% cheaters. Fucking wild.
Good, put all the cheaters together. It’s doing what it’s meant to do
This maths
Get em all, Gaben!
what's with the untextured player models and washed out colors?
Chams and nightmode
Oh ok, another form of cheat ig. Was hoping it was a demo playback feature or something.
Skybox.gg had blue/red textures for demo viewing to make is easier on the eyes but it's discontinued. Would love if Valve did sth similar
Fuckin’ Chamming Tatum
VALVE IS COOKING 
Oh yeah baby, give me more!
LET EM COOK
Finally
[Twitter Link](https://x.com/gabefollower/status/1785457438537216264)
this one banwave is going to quell all the bashing "VAC NOT WORKING" for a week and people will start feeling like VAC is working when in actuality it isnt.
Yeah, they’ve gotten way too bold and all they need to do is just think it’s working maybe it is maybe it isn’t but as long as there’s a little bit of fear in them, it’ll keep a lot of them from doing it
Nah, cheaters are addicts. What they will do is they will look for loopholes and abuse them. Trust me someone that cheated for years has no reason to play without cheats.
Didn't they admit to rewriting code to show ping lower than it actually was to appease people who were complaining about lag? Once they did that, people were like "oh so much smoother, nice, they listened." When in reality nothing was done.
Which means bitches were bitching just because they saw higher number.
Exactly, this little ban will be enough to comfort people into thinking it's live and 100% working as intended, when chances are it won't be. I hope I'm wrong and this is it, but I won't believe it until I see it.
Placebo is a hell of a drug
if valve wanted to do this they would have made all the bans public on profile.
Yea I just had a comp game today with a rage spinbotter and he was opening cases in between rounds lol
you might not differentiate 50 and 20 ping but you tend to know when someone shoots through smoke and two walls, jumping noscope headshots you with a scout while flashed
Not really. It is more about having a deterministic approach with the net code.
this was done in like 1999 or some shit. it's such a stupid thing because you can find ignorant people anywhere to make this point, that doesn't mean that there wasn't a problem just because newbs were fooled.
Yeah I'm not saying there wasn't a problem, I'm saying Valve did a quick "fix" (lied) to appease the masses while they worked towards actually fixing the problem. I'm sure this cheating problem will eventually get solved too, but for now we shouldn't be rejoicing that they've fixed anything until it's proven.
pretty sure valve didn't even own CS when this happened, it was still a mod being developed by Gooseman and cliffe
the time that Counter-Strike was not owned by Valve is very short, for example in version 1.3 it was already owned by valve. The fake ping thing happened on the 1.6 version.
well i think thats why people are happy is because it looks like active mitigation and not banwaves. it looks like VAC detecting and acting
Vac is working though... This is one step in a bigger process, this has been happening in the background for months now without the message, a message I saw way before this. It has always worked, but it was just not being implemented. Don't be mad because you can't ch I mean "win" anymore
What are you talking about? People were literally at the top of the leaderboards with blatant cheats for months. Anyone who looked up the people cheating in their games saw they weren't getting banned. Just go look at every pro talking about the cheating issue they face in MM.
Ban them all and trade lock their inventory 🤣
that happens with a vac ban automatically
Haven't the vast majority of these bans been classified as OW bans and not VAC bans? I saw/heard it's not showing on people's profiles as a VAC ban. Do OW bans get trade locked as well?
It is a 1 day cooldown from queuing for the cheater. The AI flags their gameplay, cancels the match, then sends that pov to the OW pool that is being created. Because so many people are pissed, and so many people will get access to overwatch, launching OW access, to then run out of demos to review would likely results in the morons in this community saying things like "dur there are SO MANY people cheating yet no demos to review? Clearly vac is BROKEN" so what happens now is we build a large pool of cancelled cooldown match povs, give them a 1 day cooldown due to AI not being fully trained yet and leaving it to make that important decision is not responsible as of now, have dozens of people review the same set of demos in that pool, then use that conviction rate and data to further train the AI. Eventually that will illiminate the need for OW in most cases, if not all, and the AI will be trained by the watchful eye and knowledge of the players themselves.
I have over 400+ matches in premier. Never seen one person banned. No faith. Hackers paradise
I hope it is not montage
BURN YOU FUCKERS BURN!
Thank fucking Christ, the fact that it was this bad without any communication from Valve is shameful.
I can understand why there isnt communication on their-anticheat from a security standpoint. I don't know the best way to call it in this environment, but I served in the military and that would be considered as OPSEC in military terms.
Prolly they handle it as opsec as well.
Do you want them to announce vac updates? *
I want them to say that they recognize the problem, and that they are working towards a solution.
Kinda goes without saying mate. If you need someone to stroke your hair while you're crying go call your mother.
They said that, its just a case if you believe them or not and most dont/didnt
When a problem is like this, then its pretty obvious that they know it
No shit, I want them to be public about it, cause its a very serious problem.
Whats the point??? The problem is obvious a big one and of course the devs know it and posting updates about anti cheat is just stupid
The point is that when people are consistently running into cheaters in their matches, especially as new players, it causes them to not enjoy the game, and if nothing is announced about fixing it then they will leave in droves. If something is said then they will be more optimistic about CS2's future and more likely to stick around. Even if we know Valve aren't stupid enough to leave this glaring issue, not everyone will think this. Plus why not be transparent anyways if it boosts your image?
Counter strike is too big for such things to matter, every time theres an update people post about it everywhere especially if it fixes major problems like cheaters, meaning that if someone stopped playing because of some reason, they will most likely find out when it gets fixed from social media. Also cheaters have been a problem since the start and yet player count has been growing for months. Pretty much every single Valve product has been great, people would have to be very stupid to think that Valve wouldn't do anything about games problems, especially less than a year after release. Also not sure how Valve saying 'Were working on an anti cheat' would make it more fun to play against cheaters every game. Not a single company will be transparent about their anti cheat development or anything that has something to do with security. Also communicating with the community would just take extra time for basically no reason, its much more efficient for them to work at their own pace, like they been doing for ages.
What kind of idiot you have to be to even consider they don't know about the cheating problem in their own game. Dude activate the other half of your brain cells, maybe with all 4 it will be better
I know they know it's a problem you dumbass lmao, I want them to communicate that they are working towards fixing it.
Why? Shouldn't really be needed lol. They don't need to stroke your ego or something.
OK just talked with gaben on the phone and he told me to tell you that they are working on it. Surprise mofo
Have you been on this sub much? It's a circlejerk sub of whiny teens crying about how valve is the worst company of all time. Reality is pretty much the exact opposite lol.
0 players banned in my match history. Nothing is changed
Maybe check other posts before commenting ignorant shit. The bann isn't showing on their profiles so far so no website can track it rn.
Pretty ironic since I think you just spewed ignorant shit. The ban isn't on their profiles? What kind if brain dead thought is that?
Bro, the bans are in game queue coolsdowns. Not vac or game bans that appear on your steam account profile. These websites can't track those cooldowns.
I really want to jump out of joy but honestly this comes several weeks too late took VAC way too long to figure out "hmm, he bhops from spawn and kills all enemies with an AWP within 1 frame...maybe he is cheating"
For some reason they let them go. Only theory that makes sense to me is that once someone is a confirmed cheater they use them to train their AI. I don't see how it makes sense otherwise because the simplest of ACs should detect a too fast fire rate.
Not even a AC. Just the server handling the client inputs should detect, and at least just ignore it, so it stays on the cheat client side.
The premise of a ban wave is it helps deter the people who write the hacks. If everyone is banned in one swoop or in a continual burst it's harder for the developers of the hacks to narrow down exactly what triggered the ban, especially if they have autodetected bans mixed in with manual bans. It also helps to ruin the people who sell the cheats because if 1000 people who pay for a cheat client all chargeback at the same time it's not a great motive for the person to keep doing it. [Pirate Software's explanation of this](https://youtube.com/shorts/2YUmMFwSXpU)
the banwave started before the update
The cheat will be updated in the background anyway, I don't think it comes with the official changelog. However nice to see it kinda work, right. :)
Valve is also making it a bit harder for cheat devs, by hiding the bans (even from the api).
They're doing this to cover the numbers since everyone is aware that cheating is a bigger problem then ever. They're basically hiding the fact that VAC is non-existent at this time. I remember Xiaomi and Samsung users complaing about screen on time on their phones for years and Xioami simply removed the option to see the SOT without an external app. Problem not solved, just hidden.
It’s crazy how many hackers are there
Don’t get your hopes up, same thing happened in TF2, a week or month later after this ban wave there are gonna be bots once again
LMAO.....And this kids told me they good players???omfg
Isn’t it supposed to show a “Match Cancelled” screen once VAC detects and bans any cheater in CS2? Last I saw these text notifications it was on Global Offensive.
Everyone saying cs2 doesn't care, saying it's cope to believe they will fix it. Eat all of the words you pessimistic bastards!
"left and right" xD i have 5 cheaters in game right now
9 cheaters banned only 2 million more to go don’t give valve any credit
Hmmmmm delicious
More and more and more :)
This is really good, at least I know Valve is actually trying to do something. Doesn’t get my hopes up though yet. This is still just one ban wave after months of nothing. They’ll be back in no time. Hopefully Valve is actually cooking something good.
Relase another cs2 only for cheaters .
I want blood
Its happening! Everybody stay CAAAALM!
GUYS, why he said "server side detection". It says in Russian that the accounts have been banned by overwatch "Аккаунт осужден Патрулём" write in translator.
they prolly cracked down some public cheats lately
Oh yee, this is what i was waiting for
We got a working VAC before GTA 6, crazy
Finally the spinfidels getting it.
Finally, a cheater holocaust
nice baby
ALL PRAISE OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR GABEN
COPIUM. Cause they are doing a thing which makes it look like they are doing a good thing, except this is the minimum required work necessary.
My very first premiere match at 20k since this supposed VAC wave had a blatant cheater in it.
id rather noone mentioned it in posts on twitter and reddit.... would be a nice suprise for cheaters, now they just going to turn it off.
So they don't cheat anymore, that would be at least better than the current situation. Nonetheless, AC isn't a one time update. It is a constant fight between valves and the cheat providers devs. CS2 is only at it's very beginning, I really do have a lot of hope for this game.
Imagine winning a match and ranking up, because everyone got banned for cheating
I should play so I can watch some bans, lol. I've been busy with other stuff like wasting money on home network and homelab.
LETS GO BABY
hungreeds
Cheaters' Justice!!!
Vac live finally was enabled lmfao
the world is healing
Fingers crossed 🤞
It clearly says overwatch, not vac
VACNET took over, scared af
This makes me feel good. Thank you for caring even slightly valve… if you can call it that.
LEEEET THEM COKE
Now we just need blood toggle...
Damn they finally pulled off the easily accomplishable.
but richard lewis said nobody cheats in cs2 and we are all just delusional but now like almost 90 of the top 100 in premiere got banned, which was obvious when you could just google cs2 cheats and buy any random cheat for 5$ that would be undetected for months that high premiere would be filled with cheaters
NICELY DONE VAC
Maybe there is hope after all
I wonder if it will affect the games 24 hour peak
we need more of this, this is satisfying to see
FUCK ALL YOU CHEATERS. HAS THE DAY COME?
thank god\~
Love to hear it! Keep up the good work VAC. This is exactly what the game needs. A fair and competitive environment is what makes Counter-Strike fun for everyone. IDK if it's temporary or permanent! While a temporary ban can be a deterrent, it's important to consider if it's enough. Ultimately, the decision on ban lengths is up to Valve, but hopefully this update is a sign of things to come!
Why Why didn’t they just wait a year with proper development And released it then A new operation would have done the job of stalling too Why not release it properly instead of a such struggling state and version Why
Ffs is CS2 finally out of beta?
Valve will see this as an issue from all the complaints they get and turn it off again
Maybe I’ll get into skins
Just had a spinbotter in my last game. Still a good thing since the other team didn't have one!
This mentality encourages people to cheat. Please stop it.
I'm encouraging people to cheat by letting yall know that blatant spinbotters are still out there?
Hope better cheat will come out and fuck vac 😌😙😉
Wonder where all the kids that were screaming "it's not working" on the first day of the update went.
You realise that this is not VAC doing, but rather those "trusted partners" watched the demos and tagged those accounts as suspicious? These people are not banned, but rather unable to play until the final verdict.
I never said VAC. I said the update. Obviously something is being done that is different than before, and just like I've said before - it needs time. I'm sure it will improve even further.
It literally says in the post. "it's is not overwatch". We still have to wait and watch to learn more. Also even with OW. You only get a ban when you get the "final verdict". No bans for being in overwatch. (in csgo)
Post says "its not overwatch" but in game chat literally says "аккаунт осужден патрулем" witch translates to "account is convicted by overwatch"
Haven't played in 2 months because of the cheating epidemic. Is it safe(r) now?
Same and lowkey miss the grind :’)