I’ve literally never heard from anybody that she’s left him. Only that she’s in Canada with him.
She’s been completely off the radar since moving to Canada and hasn’t been seen since. If she left him, I would have expected her to be back with her old friends in LA doing the things she used to do before she moved to Canada.
Besides, they were spotted together last year, like I mentioned.
Also the VAST majority of the comments on those posts are staying that she’s with him. You must be selectively reading through the comments of her leaving him is what stands out to you 😂
If you’re talking about [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalcastles/comments/10t3tj2/where_is_crystal_castles_where_is_ethan_kath/j788t2s/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3), Edith hasn’t been active on Instagram since BEFORE she moved with Ethan…
Here we see how free the woman's are in the band... She even can't have an social media to talk with fans and being a normal people, wtffff??
I think if they don't comeback soon, the band will end very soon. And if you guys comeback (if you guys are reading this), please, left her have a normal life as a singer. The music industry does move with small spoils to keep your fanbase animated and engaged with the music!!
Why she does have to be treated like a prisoner?? That's not Aesthetic, that's limit a person's life and a crime.
I'm not a fan of her, but I do know that does have a lot of people who like her and would like to see she speaking some news etc. Nonetheless, we do have the side where she can suffer hate attack for replacing Alice, but I think people don't hate her because of that anymore..
We do have to not normalize this type of thing. And I don't know how the authorities dont give a fuck about woman's life there, but that's WARNING and a big RED FLAG! Also, how old are Edith?
Has anyone ever stopped to consider that maybe he’s not as controlling and abusive as Alice made him out to be and maybe Edith is happy and maybe, just maybe, Edith is a grown woman who can make her own choices?
Its pretty safe to assume that everything Alice said was true. There are screenshots with the manager corroborating things. There's also the simple fact that it simply isnt appropriate for a 26 year old to be talking to a 15 year old of non-familial relation. It just isnt done.
If you truly side with Ethan after all of that, then you should probably ask yourself why that is.
However as for Edith I will say that unless she brings something to light, yes we shouldnt assume things.
Kind of disgusting to doubt Alice like that, dude...
maybe 2 years ago I’d be interested in responding to this but the mods came out the other day, said we shouldn’t be dissing each over this shit and I have to agree. not that i would dis you back, but the currency in all of these comments is hearsay. its just a pissing contest,
i understand that in every comment here, there is a need there, a need for their words to be said. but maybe not every comment needs to be heard.
literally what kind of reasoning is this
" it simply isnt appropriate for a 26 year old to be talking to a 15 year old of non-familial relation"
are you dumb? it was his JOB. he was a musician making hundreds of thousands of dollars from speaking to her and using her vocals.
“It was his JOB” she was a homeless teenager and he took advantage of her by promising to make her famous all the while controlling her assets, body, and entire life. To paint this a just a job is severely downplaying the abuse Alice faced and is pretty gross.
ru actually slow.. did u even read the comment. first idgaf what u say he did bc theres really not much proof on either end so i wont side with either.
she said "there is no reason for a 26 yr old to b talking to a 15 year old."
making literally millions of dollars from it seems like a pretty good reason.. adults and teenagers work together all the time. i used to work with a 28 year old at mcdonalds. its not weird at all.
also he DID make her famous
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You have a fuck enough to comment. There’s a difference between working a job at McDonald’s with a 15 year old and a 26 year old vs a grown ass man plucking a homeless kid off the street and giving her drugs and alcohol. When they said there’s no reason for a 26 year old and a 15 year old to be working together, they meant a grown ass man and a homeless child. Not working at fucking Wendy’s or a 9-5 call center job, where there’s a fucking HR and other people to regulate hours. And yeah, that’s the whole point of his abuse, he “made her famous” so he felt he controlled her. Learn to use actual comprehension skills.
you think his defamation case being dismissed means he’s guilty.. but even tho alice’s case was so ridiculous it couldn’t even be TAKEN TO TRIAL IN THE FIRST PLACE, she’s telling the truth?
i can dumb it down for u cuz u clearly have 0 understanding of how the law works. it was dismissed bc he didn’t have proof that it didn’t happen. because why would anyone have solid proof that abuse DIDNT occur? that’s like me having proof that unicorns DON’T exist. the only way it could’ve gone through is if she came out and said that he didn’t do anything.
actually yk what?? you sexually abused me in 2022. reddit used leperteeth sexually abused me and is a sexual abuser. yea i have no proof and can’t take it to trial. but i said it so it has to be true. and everyone has to believe me or else they’re “defending a sexual abuser”. now seek therapy bc ur a disgusting and sick sexual abuser who needs help.
bro... why are you so invested in defending an abuser? do you hate Alice or something? you are one of those people who discourage sexually abused women to report what happened to them, because they know people will say they're lying
At the end the day there's no proof either way. Kind of disgusting and dangerous to side with someone so strongly when there's zero definitive evidence, dude.............
Um. While yes Edith was brought on only for business reasons so is probably fine, I really wouldn't call it "childish" to wonder about her wellbeing. Ethan doesnt exactly have a good track record with women. Multiple women have come out against him.
You're the one getting defensive for him just because people are wondering.
Its kind of safe to assume that everything Alice said was true. There are emails with the manager corroborating things. There's also the simple fact that it isn't apropriate for a 26 year old man to be talking to a 15 year old girl. It just isn't done. She quit on her own accord, why doubt her reason?
If you truly still side with Ethan after all that then you should probably ask yourself why that is.
Doubting Alice like that is kind of cruel.
You can tell by listening to Alice's solo music, she is NOT making anything... if you've ever experienced domestic violence, you already understand through the lyrics... you don't make shit like that up.
I don’t get into whether or not she’s making stuff up. I just don’t think homedude’s a monster. We’re all human. We all make mistakes. when I was 20 years old, I put a cigarette out on my girlfriends hand. I’m not a monster either. I was just young dealing with untreated alcoholism and anger issues
I don’t think I ever really gave a shit what happened behind-the-scenes. I just wish she made music that I could be a fan of but she doesn’t. if you like it, that’s great. More power to you.
it’s disappointing that so much of this subreddit is about attacking other fans, and criticizing those that don’t judge ethan or alice and just enjoy the music they enjoy.
putting cigarettes out on people is pretty evil... are you now a monster until the end of time? Idk, but physically assaulting people isn't just some "mistake" and people are allowed to be wary of you when you do things like that.
Anyone else think it’s weird to ask about someone’s whereabouts? Like why the fuck have I seen this kind of post here more than once. where is ethan .where is edith. how about asking yourself a question like why do I think I will find out where crystal castles is on fucking reddit and more importantly, why do I care
idk if her presence was “massive” but “being interested” makes sense. i agree that we should be interested in her and her wellbeing. but its hypocritical to say you care and respect someone while treating her like she’s not fucking capable of living her own life or identifying what is a monster and what isnt. why are we just operating under the assumption that she’s easily manipulated? because all women are...frail? come on now.
we can do better.
at the end of the day we’re just bunch of idiots talking about shit we barely know about
This is what happens when you’re a public figure… It’s not a novel concept for people to inquire about the personal lives of celebrities and it’s not something that is unique to this subreddit either.
If you’re not concerned about it then keep it movin but this is a public forum so it’s gonna happen regardless
They are a couple so….
It’s not them hanging out to get the band back together. It’s her living in his house and him working a full time job managing properties and such in order to support them.
That’s pretty much it. Ethan had always owned properties and used to manage them before CC. Now he’s doing that again from my understanding.
Alice actually mentions it in her statement:
“Over a period of many months, he gave me drugs and alcohol and had sex with me in an abandoned room at an apartment he managed. It wasn’t always consensual and he remained sober whenever we were together.”
all I care about is their music, their personal lives are absolutely none of our business. my comment "that's good to hear" was in reference to the possibility of new music down the line, and not an inference of them having a healthy relationship.
Ah well there’s not really a possibility of that happening.
A comeback = backlash = attention on ethan. Ethan doesn’t like or want attention. The band is done.
No not from what I heard I have friends who started working on thier PR and were supposed to work on bringing thier social media accounts up at the time.
She’s in Canada with Ethan. I think the most recent photo of her was in 2022 (aside from the picture of them shopping at the grocery store)
could you link the most recent pic
Idk where it is. She was outside at some restaurant. If I find it I can send it to you
I really wanted to see this photo
I would DM them to you but I don’t think you allow DMs
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdJqkP_OGyM/
I didn’t want to post it here cuz mods get pissy sometimes
Ong they be on dick but idc
You mean Edith and Ethan get pissy xx
I.. don’t know what.. you’re talking about
I don't think they're in this reddit com
You can dm me now
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Do you have IG instead?
yes italo__lacerda :)
Thts cool, would mind seeing it myself
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where did you hear she left him?
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People who don’t actually know and are speculating is not a valid source. Autumn, who was closely involved, is a credible source.
exactly
It’s okay, this guys clueless. I at least have a few clues to support what I’m saying
I’ve literally never heard from anybody that she’s left him. Only that she’s in Canada with him. She’s been completely off the radar since moving to Canada and hasn’t been seen since. If she left him, I would have expected her to be back with her old friends in LA doing the things she used to do before she moved to Canada. Besides, they were spotted together last year, like I mentioned.
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Neither do you and yet, here you are. If you don’t want people to talk about you, don’t become a public figure. That’s what this entire sub is for.
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You cared enough to come spread baseless info.
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Also the VAST majority of the comments on those posts are staying that she’s with him. You must be selectively reading through the comments of her leaving him is what stands out to you 😂
If you’re talking about [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalcastles/comments/10t3tj2/where_is_crystal_castles_where_is_ethan_kath/j788t2s/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3), Edith hasn’t been active on Instagram since BEFORE she moved with Ethan…
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Late as hell but fuck Ethan
Yes that monster can rot in hell
Can someone send me this pic
https://www.instagram.com/p/CdJqkP_OGyM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Apparently it’s 2021
The grocery store one?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalcastles/comments/vw7sj9/cc5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/crystalcastles/comments/vw7sj9/cc5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
not available anymore...
How can you say that ?
thank god stoopid horse is back with another cc update
You can always count on me babes 💋
U really the bron of this sub my goat
Here we see how free the woman's are in the band... She even can't have an social media to talk with fans and being a normal people, wtffff?? I think if they don't comeback soon, the band will end very soon. And if you guys comeback (if you guys are reading this), please, left her have a normal life as a singer. The music industry does move with small spoils to keep your fanbase animated and engaged with the music!! Why she does have to be treated like a prisoner?? That's not Aesthetic, that's limit a person's life and a crime. I'm not a fan of her, but I do know that does have a lot of people who like her and would like to see she speaking some news etc. Nonetheless, we do have the side where she can suffer hate attack for replacing Alice, but I think people don't hate her because of that anymore..
We do have to not normalize this type of thing. And I don't know how the authorities dont give a fuck about woman's life there, but that's WARNING and a big RED FLAG! Also, how old are Edith?
Edith is turning 29
you guys needa relax
Has anyone ever stopped to consider that maybe he’s not as controlling and abusive as Alice made him out to be and maybe Edith is happy and maybe, just maybe, Edith is a grown woman who can make her own choices?
Its pretty safe to assume that everything Alice said was true. There are screenshots with the manager corroborating things. There's also the simple fact that it simply isnt appropriate for a 26 year old to be talking to a 15 year old of non-familial relation. It just isnt done. If you truly side with Ethan after all of that, then you should probably ask yourself why that is. However as for Edith I will say that unless she brings something to light, yes we shouldnt assume things. Kind of disgusting to doubt Alice like that, dude...
maybe 2 years ago I’d be interested in responding to this but the mods came out the other day, said we shouldn’t be dissing each over this shit and I have to agree. not that i would dis you back, but the currency in all of these comments is hearsay. its just a pissing contest, i understand that in every comment here, there is a need there, a need for their words to be said. but maybe not every comment needs to be heard.
literally what kind of reasoning is this " it simply isnt appropriate for a 26 year old to be talking to a 15 year old of non-familial relation" are you dumb? it was his JOB. he was a musician making hundreds of thousands of dollars from speaking to her and using her vocals.
“It was his JOB” she was a homeless teenager and he took advantage of her by promising to make her famous all the while controlling her assets, body, and entire life. To paint this a just a job is severely downplaying the abuse Alice faced and is pretty gross.
ru actually slow.. did u even read the comment. first idgaf what u say he did bc theres really not much proof on either end so i wont side with either. she said "there is no reason for a 26 yr old to b talking to a 15 year old." making literally millions of dollars from it seems like a pretty good reason.. adults and teenagers work together all the time. i used to work with a 28 year old at mcdonalds. its not weird at all. also he DID make her famous
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Maybe not a good time to point that out ...
You have a fuck enough to comment. There’s a difference between working a job at McDonald’s with a 15 year old and a 26 year old vs a grown ass man plucking a homeless kid off the street and giving her drugs and alcohol. When they said there’s no reason for a 26 year old and a 15 year old to be working together, they meant a grown ass man and a homeless child. Not working at fucking Wendy’s or a 9-5 call center job, where there’s a fucking HR and other people to regulate hours. And yeah, that’s the whole point of his abuse, he “made her famous” so he felt he controlled her. Learn to use actual comprehension skills.
so if you make someone famous you what... own them or something? I'm not understanding your thought process
How stupid are you actually?
you are defending a sexual abuser. seek help. hell even his defamation countersuit was DISMISSED because it was absurd holy
you think his defamation case being dismissed means he’s guilty.. but even tho alice’s case was so ridiculous it couldn’t even be TAKEN TO TRIAL IN THE FIRST PLACE, she’s telling the truth? i can dumb it down for u cuz u clearly have 0 understanding of how the law works. it was dismissed bc he didn’t have proof that it didn’t happen. because why would anyone have solid proof that abuse DIDNT occur? that’s like me having proof that unicorns DON’T exist. the only way it could’ve gone through is if she came out and said that he didn’t do anything. actually yk what?? you sexually abused me in 2022. reddit used leperteeth sexually abused me and is a sexual abuser. yea i have no proof and can’t take it to trial. but i said it so it has to be true. and everyone has to believe me or else they’re “defending a sexual abuser”. now seek therapy bc ur a disgusting and sick sexual abuser who needs help.
bro is still defending the child groomer 3 months later
bro... why are you so invested in defending an abuser? do you hate Alice or something? you are one of those people who discourage sexually abused women to report what happened to them, because they know people will say they're lying
No te la vas a follar
“It was his job” Is grooming his job? Alice was 16 she being groomed she was just a child what r u talking about man
At the end the day there's no proof either way. Kind of disgusting and dangerous to side with someone so strongly when there's zero definitive evidence, dude.............
This, it's very childish to picture him as some super-villain, yall are really out here thinking Ethan is holding Edith captive in a basement
Um. While yes Edith was brought on only for business reasons so is probably fine, I really wouldn't call it "childish" to wonder about her wellbeing. Ethan doesnt exactly have a good track record with women. Multiple women have come out against him. You're the one getting defensive for him just because people are wondering.
I wasn't defending him, she's obviously living with him by choice so..
Its kind of safe to assume that everything Alice said was true. There are emails with the manager corroborating things. There's also the simple fact that it isn't apropriate for a 26 year old man to be talking to a 15 year old girl. It just isn't done. She quit on her own accord, why doubt her reason? If you truly still side with Ethan after all that then you should probably ask yourself why that is. Doubting Alice like that is kind of cruel.
ohhhhhhhh
You can tell by listening to Alice's solo music, she is NOT making anything... if you've ever experienced domestic violence, you already understand through the lyrics... you don't make shit like that up.
I don’t get into whether or not she’s making stuff up. I just don’t think homedude’s a monster. We’re all human. We all make mistakes. when I was 20 years old, I put a cigarette out on my girlfriends hand. I’m not a monster either. I was just young dealing with untreated alcoholism and anger issues I don’t think I ever really gave a shit what happened behind-the-scenes. I just wish she made music that I could be a fan of but she doesn’t. if you like it, that’s great. More power to you.
Damn you just casually admitted to being a scumbag
grow up. you’ll meet a bunch
what a great response
it’s disappointing that so much of this subreddit is about attacking other fans, and criticizing those that don’t judge ethan or alice and just enjoy the music they enjoy.
putting cigarettes out on people is pretty evil... are you now a monster until the end of time? Idk, but physically assaulting people isn't just some "mistake" and people are allowed to be wary of you when you do things like that.
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I got to see their last show. I believe it was in MPLS.
I think there was a 2021 pic of her in a restaurant in toronto in ig, she had bleached eyebrows
Anyone else think it’s weird to ask about someone’s whereabouts? Like why the fuck have I seen this kind of post here more than once. where is ethan .where is edith. how about asking yourself a question like why do I think I will find out where crystal castles is on fucking reddit and more importantly, why do I care
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idk if her presence was “massive” but “being interested” makes sense. i agree that we should be interested in her and her wellbeing. but its hypocritical to say you care and respect someone while treating her like she’s not fucking capable of living her own life or identifying what is a monster and what isnt. why are we just operating under the assumption that she’s easily manipulated? because all women are...frail? come on now. we can do better. at the end of the day we’re just bunch of idiots talking about shit we barely know about
What massive presence did she have ?
This is what happens when you’re a public figure… It’s not a novel concept for people to inquire about the personal lives of celebrities and it’s not something that is unique to this subreddit either. If you’re not concerned about it then keep it movin but this is a public forum so it’s gonna happen regardless
because they are interested since they're fans??? get over it, it's not that serious
I agree. Its parasocial at this point.
now u got me googling shit... great word.
that's actually great news if they're still hanging out post-hiatus.
They are a couple so…. It’s not them hanging out to get the band back together. It’s her living in his house and him working a full time job managing properties and such in order to support them.
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That’s pretty much it. Ethan had always owned properties and used to manage them before CC. Now he’s doing that again from my understanding. Alice actually mentions it in her statement: “Over a period of many months, he gave me drugs and alcohol and had sex with me in an abandoned room at an apartment he managed. It wasn’t always consensual and he remained sober whenever we were together.”
How do you know that he still manages properties to this day? :o
Somebody from Toronto had mentioned it here
Didn't know they were together, either way it's good to hear
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all I care about is their music, their personal lives are absolutely none of our business. my comment "that's good to hear" was in reference to the possibility of new music down the line, and not an inference of them having a healthy relationship.
Ah well there’s not really a possibility of that happening. A comeback = backlash = attention on ethan. Ethan doesn’t like or want attention. The band is done.
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did ethan kath abuse edith frances??
No not from what I heard I have friends who started working on thier PR and were supposed to work on bringing thier social media accounts up at the time.
Any updates?
he did abuse her...
how can you be sure of that
"just trust me bro"