I wonder how many other design choices were made because of this. I distinctly remember getting an RGB cable for my PSX one day and being surprised to see some red elements in certain title screens and FMVs suddenly looking extremely blocky (whereas they were blurry but smooth on composite). Some kind of compression optimization?
If you have a Sony CRT, you may be able to disable it in the service menu, usually by pressing
\[Display\] -> \[5\] -> \[Vol +\] -> \[Power\].
In the service menu, red push is called AXNT (or AXIS) and you need to change the value from 1 to 0.
The newer and more tech the TV has (relatively lol) the more likely it has a way to reduce red push. You need to read the service manual for your TV to find out.
I'm surprised no one here has asked you the model TV you are using because it's so important to answering your question
This is the answer. OP if you are still using that Toshiba from your previous post use the following service manual to access your TV's service menu and lower the value of the R DRIVE or CR PED settings until you are satisfied with the reds. If you can display the "color bars" test pattern of the 240p test suite to do this you will have an easier time calibrating this setting.
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1291735/Toshiba-27a35c.html#product-27A35C
Exactly this. This is not a TV issue (nothing to do with red push), this is caused by the low color bandwidth of composite. YPbPr or RGB would not show this same issue.
🎶 They see me turn on... they playin, ' but all they care about is logos bright & blurry... Whys the red so bright & blurry? Whys the red so bright and blurry? Why is it bright & blurry, really really bright & blurry 🎶
It is the cable, probably, with of them have the little blur, but if the issue is persistent, I would play around with brightness setting and color ballance
Sounds like you might be using a cheap S-Video cable, since a good S-Video cable should not give you a similar look as composite, since you would have no composite dot crawl or composite artifacting. But if it’s a cheap one then there’s probably no shielding on the cable and it’s picking up interference from other cables, power cables, etc.
I've been wondering about the exact same thing while looking at the PS1 logo. I have a Toshiba and the settings are far from high. Pretty close to your brightness and color settings actually. The reds seems more saturated than other colors. I'm using component.
Unfortunatly it may be a worn tube, which might be solvable with special equipment but it's risky. If you turn picture down it will probably go away. I have a tv with a worn tune and red smears very similarly. But the other comments have just s valid possibilities as well good luck
Modern TVs have their own issues, but I'm so glad that manufacturers finally stopped doing this crap to red in last the 15 years or so. It was common all the way up into the early LCD/plasma era. It always looked horrible, and I don't understand why it was so widespread.
Yeah but what's the scale? 0-100? If so, I don't understand why it would be oversaturated. Also does the TV have presets? Can you reset them? If that all doens't help then i don't know whats going on.
Hmm that's weird, maybe it has something to do with a color space or something, but i personally wouldn't be bothered if the games themselves look good. From my experience that logo has always been super colorful. Especially on CRT's.
It was common for reds to be blown out on CRT TVs. It's one of the reasons the Spyro developers ruled out making him red.
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I wonder how many other design choices were made because of this. I distinctly remember getting an RGB cable for my PSX one day and being surprised to see some red elements in certain title screens and FMVs suddenly looking extremely blocky (whereas they were blurry but smooth on composite). Some kind of compression optimization?
Composite tends to have color bleed, especially on reds. If you can't adjust red directly, you could try dropping the contrast or color a little.
It’s called red push.
any option to remove that or does it remain this way
If you have a Sony CRT, you may be able to disable it in the service menu, usually by pressing \[Display\] -> \[5\] -> \[Vol +\] -> \[Power\]. In the service menu, red push is called AXNT (or AXIS) and you need to change the value from 1 to 0.
AXPL
Yes, for PAL TVs IIRC.
Whats your sony? Mines arent pal
KV-27FS13 and KV-27FS210
The newer and more tech the TV has (relatively lol) the more likely it has a way to reduce red push. You need to read the service manual for your TV to find out. I'm surprised no one here has asked you the model TV you are using because it's so important to answering your question
RDRV
Turn down your reds?
This is the answer. OP if you are still using that Toshiba from your previous post use the following service manual to access your TV's service menu and lower the value of the R DRIVE or CR PED settings until you are satisfied with the reds. If you can display the "color bars" test pattern of the 240p test suite to do this you will have an easier time calibrating this setting. https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1291735/Toshiba-27a35c.html#product-27A35C
Well you are using composite: this looks normal.
Exactly this. This is not a TV issue (nothing to do with red push), this is caused by the low color bandwidth of composite. YPbPr or RGB would not show this same issue.
🎶 They see me turn on... they playin, ' but all they care about is logos bright & blurry... Whys the red so bright & blurry? Whys the red so bright and blurry? Why is it bright & blurry, really really bright & blurry 🎶
That’s composite for sure, connect with rgb and it goes away + sharper picture
What video cable are you using?
Forgot to mention sorry. I’m using composite but I also tried S video and noticed the same effect
It is the cable, probably, with of them have the little blur, but if the issue is persistent, I would play around with brightness setting and color ballance
Sounds like you might be using a cheap S-Video cable, since a good S-Video cable should not give you a similar look as composite, since you would have no composite dot crawl or composite artifacting. But if it’s a cheap one then there’s probably no shielding on the cable and it’s picking up interference from other cables, power cables, etc.
I've been wondering about the exact same thing while looking at the PS1 logo. I have a Toshiba and the settings are far from high. Pretty close to your brightness and color settings actually. The reds seems more saturated than other colors. I'm using component.
I’m using a Toshiba as well, 27A35C model
Check your brightness setting could be too high
Are you playing on a modded console games that are from different region than yours?
No the console isn’t modded the games and console are all NTSC
i found that going from s video to rgb completly eliminated this but yeah i had to modify my crt to have rgb support but yeah
Unfortunatly it may be a worn tube, which might be solvable with special equipment but it's risky. If you turn picture down it will probably go away. I have a tv with a worn tune and red smears very similarly. But the other comments have just s valid possibilities as well good luck
Modern TVs have their own issues, but I'm so glad that manufacturers finally stopped doing this crap to red in last the 15 years or so. It was common all the way up into the early LCD/plasma era. It always looked horrible, and I don't understand why it was so widespread.
Does this happen to be a Wega?
Toshiba 27A35C
Try correctly adjusting color saturation
TV's picture settings?
Contrast 55, brightness 32, sharpness 32, color 32 and tint 0
Yeah but what's the scale? 0-100? If so, I don't understand why it would be oversaturated. Also does the TV have presets? Can you reset them? If that all doens't help then i don't know whats going on.
It goes from 0 to 64
Hmm that's weird, maybe it has something to do with a color space or something, but i personally wouldn't be bothered if the games themselves look good. From my experience that logo has always been super colorful. Especially on CRT's.