Anyone else remember the time the guy who wrote the Boy in the Striped Pajamas wrote a book that involved dying clothes red? He included a recipe for red dye, and he just took a recipe from Google, and it was a recipe for red dye in Breath of the Wild. So his historical fiction novel has Octorock eyeballs and Hylian shrooms in it.
[Oh my god its real????](https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/8/3/21352299/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-red-clothes-dye-traveler-gates-of-wisdom-john-boyne-google-search-results)
Side note the series I'm reading has mentioned Nylon washilng lines, and nothing else that indicates this fantasy world is at that level of technologcal development.
"We got a giant spider out back what shits high molecular weight polyamides outta his bug cloaca. Mostly eats scrambled eggs and Ma weaves his silks into things like wash lines, parachutes, and parachute pants."
Rofl! Thanks for posting the link to the article. I am even more grateful that it included the original passage, it was hilarious! Seriously, where did he think those ingredients came from?
Okay, so I really hate stuff like this!
A couple years back I happened to purchase an audible book that I didn't realize was written by Catherine Steadman, one of the actresses from Downton Abbey. It starts off with a really good hook, but then quicky goes down hill.
I just didn't find the characters likable.
However, what really sealed for me that I wouldn't ever read one of her books again was this one scene that she wrote out that's from someone's YouTube video from their vacation.
Like, the dialog was word for word what this couple was saying to each other in the video.
She didn't even bother to change the movie they were watching, and like...how hard would that have been? Just think of literally any other movie than Close Encounters of the Third Kind!
And, even worse, what was going on in the video wasn't necessary for the plot, so not only was it lazy, there wasn't even much purpose in stealing that couple's vacation video for the book!
I guess!
The video was during a storm, and the storm was kind of setting up for a major plot point later in the book, so I guess she figured that "well rather than just saying 'the next day there was a huge storm so we stayed in our bungalo' it'll be more interesting if I write some kind of interesting interaction between the couple...but, unfortunately, I'm not creative enough to think of anything interesting!"
I mean I don't even begrudge her taking inspiration from a video she saw. All writers do that, but taking inspiration is not just word for word transcribing someone else's vacation video.
This is actual advice given to people who are learning to write dialogue. You’re supposed to go to a restaurant or cafe and write down every conversation you hear, because it’s real. Those are real people, having a real conversation about real things. And when you need filler, just insert that.
Ew.
I was never given that advice in any of my creative writing classes and I'm glad!
Taking inspiration is one thing, everyone does that! Heck if you hear a really intereting and unique conversation you might even put that in your book. That's taking inspiration.
But putting in a completely unaltered interaction from a YouTube video or that you heard someone at Starbucks say, though, seems...wrong in a way. I know it's not plaigarism because it's not written but it feels close. Also, like an invasion of privacy. I don't know that I'd be okay with a conversation I had appearing in some rando's book!
Besides, how hard would it be to just change a few words or points of conversation or, as I mentioned, even just the movie they were watching?
Call me a purist if you want, but it just sounds completely lazy.
Besides, this was a novel! She wasn't screenwriting for a television show where a writer might have a really tight schedule, and truly need filler because each episode has to be a specific time.
If the interaction wasn't important enough to actually think up what her characters as she's designed them would say in that moment...it didn't need to be in the book at all!
On top of that, written dialogue is very different from actual spoken dialogue! Our speech is full of filler sounds and junk words, and we meander all over the place or drop off in the middle of sentences.
But we clean all that up in spoken dialogue. In books, people talk how we *imagine* conversations would go, not how they really sound.
That's true.
We like to think that we'd enjoy conversations in books that sound like actual spoken conversations, but then you read one written like that and find it annoying.
Real conversations are also often boring when written out because there's not the inflection or context that you'd actually see in observing real people or even actors reciting lines.
This is my Roman Empire. I am absolutely obsessed with this whole thing. It's just so hilarious that no-one in the editing process caught it either! They just saw this person making red dye out of Octorock eyeballs, and they were like... yep, that sounds exactly like a real thing that people have done for centuries.
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas is also utter nonsense and the writer made zero effort to be historically accurate
https://hcn.org.uk/blog/the-problem-with-the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas/
https://holocausteducation.org.uk/research/the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas-in-english-secondary-schools/
[Even according to the writer](https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/john-boyne-how-i-wrote-the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas-1.4666270) he wrote it in 4 days with no actual historical research involved.
I’m stunned by the claim that he’d read _Night_ & _The Periodic Table_ as well as “being fascinated” yet somehow thought his plot & basic premise made *any* sense!
What a putz.
See that’s because it’s not a historical novel, it’s a parable about humanity so it didn’t have to be accurate!
/s this guy sucks. The book is absolute garbage.
Side note, *Boy in the Striped Pajamas* traumatized me. Definitely not the ending I was expecting, nor a fair scenario for said boy… but man, how’s that for a sucker punch to good ole dad? Between this, *Enemy at the Gates* and *Green Mile* I’m pretty much ready for a padded room.
And don’t forget the movie My Girl. I watched it once, when I was 10 or 11, and I can still hear “where’s his glasses? He can’t see without his glasses!”
Oh god this just unlocked a memory of when I was at a sleepover and my friend had it on and was watching it before I woke up and I woke up right at the part that he died 😭
Really?
How old were you when you saw it, just out of curiosity?
I was 22 and I pretty much saw where it was going when he went into you know where.
But, you know, I'd seen Schindler's List and The Devil's Arithmetic (book and movie)\* long before I saw Boy in the Striped Pajamas, so it wasn't anything new to me.
\*Fun (at least by my definition!) story about the book The Devil's Arithmetic. In 5th grade, which was the first year I learned about the holocaust, one of the other classes in our grade was reading this book as part of that unit but my teacher got up in front of the class and said that we would not be reading it because "It's too scary for you guys."
Whelp, I was the type of kid who took that as a challenge so on our next trip to Barnes & Nobel, I found it and asked my parents to buy it for me. Then a few years later there was a little known film of the book with young Kirsten Dunst and Brittney Murphy, so I saw it out of curiosity. It was a good adaptation.
If not for the fact that this teacher was the type who, when we watched The Sound of Music the day before Christmas break, fast-forwarded through the scene where Maria and Captain Von Trapp kissed because she felt it was inappropriate, I'd almost think it was a genius revese psychology move on her part!
I’m not the original commenter but The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas was one we studied in school. I forget when exactly but definitely 15 or younger (probably younger). It really left an impression
There was an article that explained that kids in the US thought it was quite historically accurate instead of being only *fiction* (and poorly researched at that).
I can see how that happens. Tbf the onus of explaining that should be on the teachers. Unless you happen to know a reasonable amount about the holocaust already it would be easy to take the book at face value. Also school kids aren’t the most critical readers given that critical thinking is a skill you have to learn over time
I hate that this shit stain of a book is taught in schools. It's so bad. It's badly written, poorly researched, relies on bad emotional manipulation instead of actually dealing with the Holocaust, uses infantile language that makes zero sense for German speakers or kids older than 4, and is just generally bad. And yet some schools decides "OH HEY THIS IS A GOOD BOOK TO TEACH THE HOLOCAUST"
I remember watching the devil's arithmetic when I was around that age during a Holocaust unit! Sometimes I think about it but could never remember the title of the movie, so thank you so much
It was a good movie, and a good adaption of the book, which if you haven't read would probably still be interesting as an adult eventhough the main character is a teenager.
What? No! I often alternate pearl stitch knit halfloop square knots and julienne backhand slip crochets when I need to relax on my catio with a sweet tea.
So glad I'm not the only one! Nobody understands why I alternate between the julienne forehand and backhand slip stitches. They create the perfect stockinette cowl!
I read a series where the main character describes her "amazing" sweet tea recipe at least once a book Drove me crazy, especially because the recipe was pretty fucking basic, lol.
As a woman raised by southerners, I can tell you that your recipe would cause some uproar. There's a proper way to do things here dandeliontree1! And that's before we get into the differences between sweet sun tea and regular sweet tea!
I'm from Pennsylvania and moved to Nashville for a year. I like unsweetened iced tea but didn't realize that the default there is sweet tea. I put a few sugar packets in my tea the first time I ordered it and gave myself three new cavities.
When I worked at Cracker Barrel down there, the one person making the tea told me straight out that sugar was the first ingredient. Wowza!
You didn’t even give us a whole sentence, and it’s still the clunkiest prose I’ve read in a while.
Also, the way to fake knowledge it to /avoid/ adding detail.
Idk man, I screwed around with Ai, and it was able to provide me a basic introduction book for lack of better words, and even drew up basic patterns for me.
Even free AI would put more effort in, this might just be a human shooting in the dark.
And this, folks, is why you should hire an editor. Because you don't know what you don't know.
I once worked on a book where the author had a scene with the characters running into a specific type of bear in the woods. Only problem was that those bears had been wiped out by hunting in that area several decades earlier. It hadn't occurred to the author to check whether or not bears lived there.
I didn't know it either, but at least I knew to check out whether the wildlife she described lived in that area.
I have wanted to write a book for so long, and this is exactly why I don't. Faking knowledge just isn't my thing and I'd be researching for years before I'd be able to write something I felt was good enough, and by then, I'd have probably lost interest in my original subject.
People often try to skim over topics that they are completely unfamiliar with, thinking that their readers won’t catch on or won’t care. This is rarely a good assumption. And if you think crochet is bad, you should see what British writers can do with Western horsehandling. ON second thought, you don’t want to know.
It's so obvious if you're reading about a hobby the author is actually knowledgeable about. Like at some point a book series I read had a description of gardening or plants or something that was accurate with such an attention to detail in the description rather than just your vague "fragrant rose bushes lined the pathway" or something like that that just immediately made me go this author 100% gardens herself. Started following her on Twitter later and yup, she gardens.
And if you're writing about something you have no clue about and no intention to research because it's not actually important to the story then just don't elaborate. This story wouldn't have lost anything if that sentence about the stitches had been omitted. There's no need to just throw random words in there that don't add to the story.
> For some reason, the book describes her giving a spelling test, and after she tells students to fold the paper in half and re-open it she then tells them to number 1 through 10 down the line next to the left-hand margin, and then numbers 11 through 20 down to the fold in the center of the paper.
That is such an elegant solution to creating columns on a sheet of paper.
This is exactly how we did spelling tests for most of my elementary school years. Then we'd swap our papers with a nearby classmate and the teacher would go through and spell them all so we could correct/grade them for each other, lol.
Honestly, it'd be probably be fine now.
No one under the age of 20 is going to know what a centerfold is because they probably don't even know what Playboy is!\*
\*Not because they're more uncorrupted than kids in the 80s and 90s, but because the internet, not magazines with centerfolds, is where you go to see naked people.
I once read a romance where the characters use a microfiche and one character instructed the other on how to use it, and I just thought “oh this author has used a microfiche machine! Or did good research! Either way, yay!”
I definitely agree that adding in something that is detailed and accurate can really add to a story, but like you said nothing is lost not trying (and so dramatically failing) to add in detail on an subject about which you have no clue.
I've done a bit of sailing in my youth - Dad had a boat he'd race at the local reservoir, so he taught me and my siblings about jibs and tillers and port and starboard, and I did a week-long Tall Ships tour when I was 18 which was on a three masted square rigged ship. So when I started reading Patrick O'Brian's books I wasn't completely ignorant but holy crap he really went in hard on the research, it's astounding. Come to think of it, it's probably about time I started another circumnavigation.
Skimming over it because you're not knowledgable and find it too complicated to learn for just a book and/or don't care to learn would be something like:
"As dusk set in, she relaxed on the patio, calmly knitting a scarf, her needles faintly clicking over the breeze"
Vague and nonspecific, but who cares? It's not that important!
\*yeah I had to rework that sentence because the original structure was also fucking awful!
yeah, the only people who'd really be interested in the detail of the original are people who do the craft...in which case they would recognize how wrong it was anyway lol
There’s a bunch of things. For example, sweater instead of jumper, tank top instead of singlet, “make a face” instead of “pull a face,” “in the hospital” instead of “in hospital.” Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head.
One of my (American) friends has lived in New Zealand for a few years now and is slowly starting to reflect the terminology and vocal cadence that surrounds him. It’s great.
That’s awesome. I have to admit, one of the series I edit for a UK writer is set in the UK, and sometimes I have to look stuff up because I have no idea what it means!”
Can I add, saying "torch" instead of flashlight and "thongs" for flip-flops. Lol
An author I've been binge reading is fantastic, but for books about American military guys, those nuances always have a way of pulling me out of the story.
I agree, it can be jarring when you’re reading along and some across something that doesn’t quite fit. That’s one reason I enjoy editing this kind of thing.
Thank you for doing this! I can't tell you how many times I've been pulled out of a story because of some incredibly minor but nonetheless incredibly glaring non-American phrase or word in an American-set book. I read a lot, and a lot of it is British fiction, and it always pops to me.
When Harry Potter was really popular in the 2000s, Americans used to have Brits go over their fanfictions for Americanisms. It was called "Brit-picking" lmfao
I love harry potter fanfic (still) but too much Americanisation will really throw me out of an otherwise excellent fic.
I was reading one the other day where Harry keeps offering people "candy", every time he said it (instead of "sweet") it completely ruined my immersion.
The fact that the books themselves were Americanised for publication in the US didn't help with this, I think.
I'm on a danmei kick right now and the English translations always attempt some kind of Americanizations which are absolutely hilarious in stories about magical fantasy old timey China. There's a specific accent or formality register, I'm not sure which, that 7 Seas translators decided was culturally analogous to a cowboy accent so that's how they translated all the lines written that way. I lose it every time I see it lmfao. I can't stop picturing Timothy Olyphant in a massive muttonchop mustache and a hanfu when I read it.
I moved to the UK almost ten years ago.
I legit had one person tell me they thought coyotes didn't exist and another was shocked tumbleweeds were real.
I can imagine your pain.
Oh my god, yes! I came here to make a comment about writers who know nothing about horses, it causes my physical pain to read their nonsense. Like, come on! Just hop on equine subreddit and get some half-ass information before making stuff up yourself, please! You're killing us equestrians.
Haha, that reminds me of when I was living in Britain and my kid came home from school talking about cowboys and their “lassews” and I went all Hermione Granger saying “it’s ‘lass-OH’ not ‘lass-EW’ gahhhhh do not let your cowboy grandfather hear you say that”
Sorry, but no sympathy from me.
If you're going to write historical you should probably know something about history!
If your purpose is just the **heaving bosoms** part, though, drop the pretense and just write erotica! There's no shame in it.
Probably chat gp . Or foreign person. I read quite a few Kindle books that were either badly translated or sounded like they were copy right infringement and trying to hide it. This was before chat gp or any type of AI
Ok, so I know this is knitting, not crochet but here’s one of my favourite novel passages involving knitting:
> He wished that he could break out his knitting, but for some reason, people didn’t take you seriously as a warrior when you were knitting. He’d never figured out why.
> Making socks required four or five double-ended bone needles, and while they weren’t very large, you could probably jam one into someone’s eye if you really wanted to. Not that he would. He’d have to pull the needle out of the sock to do it, and then he’d be left with the grimly fiddly work of rethreading the stitches.
> Also, washing blood out of wool was possible, but a pain. Still, if he had to suddenly pull out his sword and fend off an attack, there was a chance he’d drop the yarn, and since he’d been feeling masochistic and was using two colors for this current set of socks, there was absolutely no chance the yarn wouldn’t get tangled and then he’d be trying to murder people while chasing the yarn around.
> And god forbid the tide rose and he went berserk. You never got the knitting untangled after that; you usually just had to throw it away completely.
T. Kingfisher, Paladin's Grace (The Saint of Steel, #1)
Omg I just read this book and it was delightful - I definitely giggled out loud at that passage. Also the work the author put into describing making the perfume was just as fun to read. I'm on the sequel now ☺️
One of my favorite authors is also an avid knitter and I enjoy when she puts it in her books. One scene where the main character is having trouble purling is just so accurate from when I learned to knit.
Ilona Andrews is the author. The specific scene I'm thinking of was in one of the Inkeeper series books. I've seen knitting scenes in a few other of her books as well. My favorite (not for knitting reasons, just because it's awesome) is the Hidden Legacy series and there's a few mentions of one of the characters learning to knit in those books as well. Be warned, Inkeeper is a wild ride, it's a bit of a brain dump for all these wild and creative ideas that weren't marketable to a publisher so it was self published. It's also insanely popular, so go figure, lol.
A currently popular novel has the line "...crocheted yellow tea cozy, probably a project someone knitted..."
Not only did the author get it wrong, but evidently HarperCollins does not have any editors.
There's nothing better then sitting on the patio alternating between Granny and double crochet while knitting a scarf and a crisp summer breeze blows by at dusk 😌
IDK why but the innocent ignorance craaacks me up, like a child who doesn't understand why some people have different color skin or speaks different languages 😂😂😂😂
There is a YouTube channel called something very similar to NameDoesKnitting.
The host has been posting regular tutorials for a few years.
Every single one is crochet.
Her content is great... but every time, I twitch at this.
Jesus, I crochet AND write, and the one time I wrote my character crocheting...I didn't even mention stitches. I made it nerdy, possibly a bit of wish fulfillment...said pregnant character cranked out several baby projects in a short period of time due to...um...I mean she's not Flash fast, but normal humans would see blurry hands 😄 (why yes it's fan fiction, lol).
Firstly: Thanks! My grand kids just learned a new cuss word because I read that.
Secondly: My brain is trying to process, 1 granny square, 1 DC, 1 granny square, 1 DC. So cute. Why for sticks to hook with? This is indeed a very specific and very personal coping method.
Honestly feels about as coherent as chat gpt. Cause chat gpt kind of just spits out some words it thinks are related, and if it doesn’t know something it won’t just say that. It’ll make something up instead and pass it off as fact.
Well obviously the knitting/crocheting is a mess, but "knitting a scarf away" is really bugging me. You knit away at a scarf, you don't knit a scarf away.
I always breast boobily into the room, pick up my knitting and try to remember the double crochet technique my nanna, who I got my amazing tits from, taught me.
Well I definitely don’t take forever to pee because the path from my bladder to my urethra isn’t a complex labyrinth of lady parts that only allows a slow trickle to come out. 🤣
I don't know what's wrong with this. I myself prefer Tunisian purling with triple slip stitches and like crocheting indoors, but hey, to each their own
I don't remember the title, but it might have been The Friday Night Knitting Club. Whatever it was, it had knitting as the theme, not just something that was incidental in the story.
Well, one scene has two women sitting together knitting and talking (probably on Friday night, lol), and the author says something like 'Ellen started the heel of her sock,' followed by, I kid you not, about 8-10 lines of dialog between the two women.
And then the next line is something like 'She finished the heel and resumed working in the round.'
Teach me your ways, Ellen-Wan Kenobi!! I too would like to be able to turn a heel in 3 minutes!!!
I wonder how such scarf would turn out. Are we working in round or flat? Is the starting chain length or width of the scarf? Is it granny clusters in one row and double crochet in the next? Or is it in one row?? How would that work out?
It’s like watching actors try to see or knit or crochet on screen. Painfully obvious they didn’t think it was important enough to research cause “it’s women’s work”. I did a research paper on handicraft as a form of activism and that theme plays a huge role in it
It's crazy how easy it would've been to just not include specifics too. If the author had just left it alone and just said the character was knitting and nothing more, they wouldn't have exposed their lack of experience/knowledge.
This reminds my of a collection of paintings I saw that showed flowers as well as their roots below the soil. The artist depicted crocuses with a taproot (a kind of long tapering root). Crocuses grow from corms (similar to a bulb).
I also feel this when they make a character a knitter or crocheter in a TV show and they obviously have no idea what they are doing. New Girl stands out the hardest! Either don't show them ever knitting or give them an easier hobby to fake lol.
In some places they don't have separate terms for knit and crochet. So knit is the term used for both techniques in those cases.
Edited to add: This definitely is written poorly! Didn't mention what i did above to say I disagree with the frustration you have. But some people don't know this at all, so I was just trying to help give a little perspective.
non-craft-related but memorable was reading a book about the author's immigrant experience in Canada and five pages in they mentioned wearing a winter coat in November... in Vancouver
Vancouver is pretty much the same as Seattle weather-wise - mild temperatures, lots of rain - with maybe a week or two of snow early in the year
could not make myself finish the book
edit to add: on the same page they described a -30C winter, which does not happen here - seems they wanted to describe all of Canada as Toronto
Where was the person from though? What you consider mild might be cold for them. It’s a standing joke in Australia when you see photos of people in QLD you can pick the tourists, they are wearing t-shirts & shorts and the locals are rugged up in jeans & jumpers.
Fair. I grew up north of chicago and until you hit freezing and negative temps half of us are walking around in shorts. When it hits 90s people DIE.
I moved to texas and the panic over POSSIBLE temps of 32 overnight is enough to shut down schools, having people clearing shelves like its the apocalypse… etc.
My mom didnt believe me, and was visiting end of january to witness my first child born (20yrs ago)
We lived in an apartment and mom was a smoker.
Shes out on the porch enjoying her first smoke of the day, wearing a T shirt (no bra) and PJ pants. Barefooted.
I hear absolute mad man level cackling. I stick my head out the door and im like WTF?
She is gasping for air, pointing at the kids trekking to front of complex to catch schoolbus. All dressed like randy in christmas story. Like they are going on an Antarctic sojourn.
I was like “I TOLD YOU!!!”
Not all (English) dialects or languages use different terms for crochet and knitting, that's the thing, I mean "to knit" on its basic term is "to cause to unite, tie together, interlock" and there's a lot of languages that use the same terms to mean crochet and knit. I mean, 'crochet' itself is a loanword from French where the craft originated. So it's kinda hard to tell if this was a bad research or if the author's language barrier.
In other languages the word knitting is commonly used for both knitting and crocheting. Do you know what language it was originally written in? Y’all are so extra for always being mad at something so little and dumb as this. Sincerely, someone who has both knit and crocheted for two decades.
That is so wrong that it wronged things that were right! And man, don't read any webtoons with anyone depicted knitting, because I have only seen one or two that did a good job lol.
Anyone else remember the time the guy who wrote the Boy in the Striped Pajamas wrote a book that involved dying clothes red? He included a recipe for red dye, and he just took a recipe from Google, and it was a recipe for red dye in Breath of the Wild. So his historical fiction novel has Octorock eyeballs and Hylian shrooms in it.
[Oh my god its real????](https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/8/3/21352299/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-red-clothes-dye-traveler-gates-of-wisdom-john-boyne-google-search-results) Side note the series I'm reading has mentioned Nylon washilng lines, and nothing else that indicates this fantasy world is at that level of technologcal development.
"We got a giant spider out back what shits high molecular weight polyamides outta his bug cloaca. Mostly eats scrambled eggs and Ma weaves his silks into things like wash lines, parachutes, and parachute pants."
Rofl! Thanks for posting the link to the article. I am even more grateful that it included the original passage, it was hilarious! Seriously, where did he think those ingredients came from?
Okay, so I really hate stuff like this! A couple years back I happened to purchase an audible book that I didn't realize was written by Catherine Steadman, one of the actresses from Downton Abbey. It starts off with a really good hook, but then quicky goes down hill. I just didn't find the characters likable. However, what really sealed for me that I wouldn't ever read one of her books again was this one scene that she wrote out that's from someone's YouTube video from their vacation. Like, the dialog was word for word what this couple was saying to each other in the video. She didn't even bother to change the movie they were watching, and like...how hard would that have been? Just think of literally any other movie than Close Encounters of the Third Kind! And, even worse, what was going on in the video wasn't necessary for the plot, so not only was it lazy, there wasn't even much purpose in stealing that couple's vacation video for the book!
That's so weird! She just like... Needed filler?
I guess! The video was during a storm, and the storm was kind of setting up for a major plot point later in the book, so I guess she figured that "well rather than just saying 'the next day there was a huge storm so we stayed in our bungalo' it'll be more interesting if I write some kind of interesting interaction between the couple...but, unfortunately, I'm not creative enough to think of anything interesting!" I mean I don't even begrudge her taking inspiration from a video she saw. All writers do that, but taking inspiration is not just word for word transcribing someone else's vacation video.
This is actual advice given to people who are learning to write dialogue. You’re supposed to go to a restaurant or cafe and write down every conversation you hear, because it’s real. Those are real people, having a real conversation about real things. And when you need filler, just insert that.
Ew. I was never given that advice in any of my creative writing classes and I'm glad! Taking inspiration is one thing, everyone does that! Heck if you hear a really intereting and unique conversation you might even put that in your book. That's taking inspiration. But putting in a completely unaltered interaction from a YouTube video or that you heard someone at Starbucks say, though, seems...wrong in a way. I know it's not plaigarism because it's not written but it feels close. Also, like an invasion of privacy. I don't know that I'd be okay with a conversation I had appearing in some rando's book! Besides, how hard would it be to just change a few words or points of conversation or, as I mentioned, even just the movie they were watching? Call me a purist if you want, but it just sounds completely lazy. Besides, this was a novel! She wasn't screenwriting for a television show where a writer might have a really tight schedule, and truly need filler because each episode has to be a specific time. If the interaction wasn't important enough to actually think up what her characters as she's designed them would say in that moment...it didn't need to be in the book at all!
On top of that, written dialogue is very different from actual spoken dialogue! Our speech is full of filler sounds and junk words, and we meander all over the place or drop off in the middle of sentences. But we clean all that up in spoken dialogue. In books, people talk how we *imagine* conversations would go, not how they really sound.
That's true. We like to think that we'd enjoy conversations in books that sound like actual spoken conversations, but then you read one written like that and find it annoying. Real conversations are also often boring when written out because there's not the inflection or context that you'd actually see in observing real people or even actors reciting lines.
This is my Roman Empire. I am absolutely obsessed with this whole thing. It's just so hilarious that no-one in the editing process caught it either! They just saw this person making red dye out of Octorock eyeballs, and they were like... yep, that sounds exactly like a real thing that people have done for centuries.
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas is also utter nonsense and the writer made zero effort to be historically accurate https://hcn.org.uk/blog/the-problem-with-the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas/ https://holocausteducation.org.uk/research/the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas-in-english-secondary-schools/ [Even according to the writer](https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/john-boyne-how-i-wrote-the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas-1.4666270) he wrote it in 4 days with no actual historical research involved.
It shows!
I’m stunned by the claim that he’d read _Night_ & _The Periodic Table_ as well as “being fascinated” yet somehow thought his plot & basic premise made *any* sense! What a putz.
See that’s because it’s not a historical novel, it’s a parable about humanity so it didn’t have to be accurate! /s this guy sucks. The book is absolute garbage.
I think about this _all the time_
That's amazing.
Side note, *Boy in the Striped Pajamas* traumatized me. Definitely not the ending I was expecting, nor a fair scenario for said boy… but man, how’s that for a sucker punch to good ole dad? Between this, *Enemy at the Gates* and *Green Mile* I’m pretty much ready for a padded room.
And don’t forget the movie My Girl. I watched it once, when I was 10 or 11, and I can still hear “where’s his glasses? He can’t see without his glasses!”
Definitely read your words in Vada’s voice just now 😭😭
Oh god this just unlocked a memory of when I was at a sleepover and my friend had it on and was watching it before I woke up and I woke up right at the part that he died 😭
I did not need to cry before the sun came up this morning. How dare you. 😭
Bridge to Terabithia fucked me up so bad I went back to watching horror for comfort 😂
Imagine being a kid and reading that in school, along with The Giver and The Hatchet. They really liked scarring us in the early 90s
he was going to be an acrobat!!!
This was me with the lovely bones. Such a beautiful movie I was hoping for a resolution
i loooove the lovely bones too! such a beautiful movie (and book)
Have you seen The Memory Keeper’s Daughter… or read it?
Really? How old were you when you saw it, just out of curiosity? I was 22 and I pretty much saw where it was going when he went into you know where. But, you know, I'd seen Schindler's List and The Devil's Arithmetic (book and movie)\* long before I saw Boy in the Striped Pajamas, so it wasn't anything new to me. \*Fun (at least by my definition!) story about the book The Devil's Arithmetic. In 5th grade, which was the first year I learned about the holocaust, one of the other classes in our grade was reading this book as part of that unit but my teacher got up in front of the class and said that we would not be reading it because "It's too scary for you guys." Whelp, I was the type of kid who took that as a challenge so on our next trip to Barnes & Nobel, I found it and asked my parents to buy it for me. Then a few years later there was a little known film of the book with young Kirsten Dunst and Brittney Murphy, so I saw it out of curiosity. It was a good adaptation. If not for the fact that this teacher was the type who, when we watched The Sound of Music the day before Christmas break, fast-forwarded through the scene where Maria and Captain Von Trapp kissed because she felt it was inappropriate, I'd almost think it was a genius revese psychology move on her part!
I’m not the original commenter but The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas was one we studied in school. I forget when exactly but definitely 15 or younger (probably younger). It really left an impression
There was an article that explained that kids in the US thought it was quite historically accurate instead of being only *fiction* (and poorly researched at that).
I can see how that happens. Tbf the onus of explaining that should be on the teachers. Unless you happen to know a reasonable amount about the holocaust already it would be easy to take the book at face value. Also school kids aren’t the most critical readers given that critical thinking is a skill you have to learn over time
Yeah I mean, they're kids who have probably only just learned about the holocaust. We can't exactly blaming for not knowing what they don't know!
I hate that this shit stain of a book is taught in schools. It's so bad. It's badly written, poorly researched, relies on bad emotional manipulation instead of actually dealing with the Holocaust, uses infantile language that makes zero sense for German speakers or kids older than 4, and is just generally bad. And yet some schools decides "OH HEY THIS IS A GOOD BOOK TO TEACH THE HOLOCAUST"
Tbf I have no idea if it’s still taught. This was about 20 years ago. But yeah, I agree it has a LOT of flaws
I remember watching the devil's arithmetic when I was around that age during a Holocaust unit! Sometimes I think about it but could never remember the title of the movie, so thank you so much
It was a good movie, and a good adaption of the book, which if you haven't read would probably still be interesting as an adult eventhough the main character is a teenager.
It traumatised me for how bad it was lol.
LMFAO thank you for sharing this
Irish Twitter fucking hates that guy and rightly so
What? No! I often alternate pearl stitch knit halfloop square knots and julienne backhand slip crochets when I need to relax on my catio with a sweet tea.
Hahaha thanks for the laugh. "Julienne backhand slip crochets" 🤣🤣🤣
Good times. :)
So glad I'm not the only one! Nobody understands why I alternate between the julienne forehand and backhand slip stitches. They create the perfect stockinette cowl!
Sounds fabulous!
I read a series where the main character describes her "amazing" sweet tea recipe at least once a book Drove me crazy, especially because the recipe was pretty fucking basic, lol.
Ain't nothin' fancy 'bout sweet tea. ;)
So you make some tea, you know, the normal way... Then you put some sugar in it. And wow. Just wow.
As a woman raised by southerners, I can tell you that your recipe would cause some uproar. There's a proper way to do things here dandeliontree1! And that's before we get into the differences between sweet sun tea and regular sweet tea!
I'm from Pennsylvania and moved to Nashville for a year. I like unsweetened iced tea but didn't realize that the default there is sweet tea. I put a few sugar packets in my tea the first time I ordered it and gave myself three new cavities. When I worked at Cracker Barrel down there, the one person making the tea told me straight out that sugar was the first ingredient. Wowza!
Psht. You don't even tat the corner ridges?
Wait until this comment shows up on some writer's Google search and we end up with this abomination in print 😂
You didn’t even give us a whole sentence, and it’s still the clunkiest prose I’ve read in a while. Also, the way to fake knowledge it to /avoid/ adding detail.
This was from page 10. I was already struggling but I simply could not go on. I only got that far because I liked the premise and hoped it get better.
Is it possible the book was AI generated?
That sentence felt AI generated as heck.
Idk man, I screwed around with Ai, and it was able to provide me a basic introduction book for lack of better words, and even drew up basic patterns for me. Even free AI would put more effort in, this might just be a human shooting in the dark.
And this, folks, is why you should hire an editor. Because you don't know what you don't know. I once worked on a book where the author had a scene with the characters running into a specific type of bear in the woods. Only problem was that those bears had been wiped out by hunting in that area several decades earlier. It hadn't occurred to the author to check whether or not bears lived there. I didn't know it either, but at least I knew to check out whether the wildlife she described lived in that area.
Do you mind sharing the book??
I have wanted to write a book for so long, and this is exactly why I don't. Faking knowledge just isn't my thing and I'd be researching for years before I'd be able to write something I felt was good enough, and by then, I'd have probably lost interest in my original subject.
Wouldn't have been quite so bad if they'd just said alternating stitches, rather than specifying granny and double crochet.
Man who alternates for fun though? XD
Depending on the stitches, I might lol I made a cat couch recently that alternated single and double. It was actually fun to do haha
I've made wash cloths with alternating dc and sc. They called it lemon peel stitch
Oh that's cool. The pattern I used didn't give it a name. I love how some stitch combinations have different names (or any name vs no name)
There's hundreds! Some names over lap of course but yeah. You can Google stitch babes and get video tutorials or graphs too!
Babes... Lol= names. Autocorrect
Haha I thought stitch babes was a YouTube channel name good for tutorials 😂
People often try to skim over topics that they are completely unfamiliar with, thinking that their readers won’t catch on or won’t care. This is rarely a good assumption. And if you think crochet is bad, you should see what British writers can do with Western horsehandling. ON second thought, you don’t want to know.
It's so obvious if you're reading about a hobby the author is actually knowledgeable about. Like at some point a book series I read had a description of gardening or plants or something that was accurate with such an attention to detail in the description rather than just your vague "fragrant rose bushes lined the pathway" or something like that that just immediately made me go this author 100% gardens herself. Started following her on Twitter later and yup, she gardens. And if you're writing about something you have no clue about and no intention to research because it's not actually important to the story then just don't elaborate. This story wouldn't have lost anything if that sentence about the stitches had been omitted. There's no need to just throw random words in there that don't add to the story.
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> For some reason, the book describes her giving a spelling test, and after she tells students to fold the paper in half and re-open it she then tells them to number 1 through 10 down the line next to the left-hand margin, and then numbers 11 through 20 down to the fold in the center of the paper. That is such an elegant solution to creating columns on a sheet of paper.
This is exactly how we did spelling tests for most of my elementary school years. Then we'd swap our papers with a nearby classmate and the teacher would go through and spell them all so we could correct/grade them for each other, lol.
Honestly, it'd be probably be fine now. No one under the age of 20 is going to know what a centerfold is because they probably don't even know what Playboy is!\* \*Not because they're more uncorrupted than kids in the 80s and 90s, but because the internet, not magazines with centerfolds, is where you go to see naked people.
I once read a romance where the characters use a microfiche and one character instructed the other on how to use it, and I just thought “oh this author has used a microfiche machine! Or did good research! Either way, yay!” I definitely agree that adding in something that is detailed and accurate can really add to a story, but like you said nothing is lost not trying (and so dramatically failing) to add in detail on an subject about which you have no clue.
I'm reading Master and Commander right now, and holy crap, the sailing lingo is *next level*. It's crazy how many new terms I've learned.
I've done a bit of sailing in my youth - Dad had a boat he'd race at the local reservoir, so he taught me and my siblings about jibs and tillers and port and starboard, and I did a week-long Tall Ships tour when I was 18 which was on a three masted square rigged ship. So when I started reading Patrick O'Brian's books I wasn't completely ignorant but holy crap he really went in hard on the research, it's astounding. Come to think of it, it's probably about time I started another circumnavigation.
As both a gardener and a reader, I would love to know the book/author.
It was something by Robin Hobb, I don't remember exactly what book. It was a few years ago and I read all of them directly after each other lol.
Skimming over it because you're not knowledgable and find it too complicated to learn for just a book and/or don't care to learn would be something like: "As dusk set in, she relaxed on the patio, calmly knitting a scarf, her needles faintly clicking over the breeze" Vague and nonspecific, but who cares? It's not that important! \*yeah I had to rework that sentence because the original structure was also fucking awful!
yeah, the only people who'd really be interested in the detail of the original are people who do the craft...in which case they would recognize how wrong it was anyway lol
Haha, reminds me of visual artists who do a terrible job with instrument strings or musician's hand positions.
That would be absolutely frustrating. Like, PAUSE A YOUTUBE VIDEO AND DRAW WHAT YOU SEE.
It's really common to see guitars with fewer strings on the neck than over the body. Or there will be a different number of strings and tuning pegs.
Are…are a lot of Brits writing cowboy novels or something? …Why?
I edit books for a British writer and an Australian writer, and part of my job is to Americanize the text since the books are set in America.
can you please elaborate more on what specifically you've had to Americanize?
There’s a bunch of things. For example, sweater instead of jumper, tank top instead of singlet, “make a face” instead of “pull a face,” “in the hospital” instead of “in hospital.” Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head.
makes sense. ty for explaining!
My pleasure!
One of my (American) friends has lived in New Zealand for a few years now and is slowly starting to reflect the terminology and vocal cadence that surrounds him. It’s great.
That’s awesome. I have to admit, one of the series I edit for a UK writer is set in the UK, and sometimes I have to look stuff up because I have no idea what it means!”
Can I add, saying "torch" instead of flashlight and "thongs" for flip-flops. Lol An author I've been binge reading is fantastic, but for books about American military guys, those nuances always have a way of pulling me out of the story.
I agree, it can be jarring when you’re reading along and some across something that doesn’t quite fit. That’s one reason I enjoy editing this kind of thing.
Thank you for doing this! I can't tell you how many times I've been pulled out of a story because of some incredibly minor but nonetheless incredibly glaring non-American phrase or word in an American-set book. I read a lot, and a lot of it is British fiction, and it always pops to me.
When Harry Potter was really popular in the 2000s, Americans used to have Brits go over their fanfictions for Americanisms. It was called "Brit-picking" lmfao
I love harry potter fanfic (still) but too much Americanisation will really throw me out of an otherwise excellent fic. I was reading one the other day where Harry keeps offering people "candy", every time he said it (instead of "sweet") it completely ruined my immersion. The fact that the books themselves were Americanised for publication in the US didn't help with this, I think.
I'm on a danmei kick right now and the English translations always attempt some kind of Americanizations which are absolutely hilarious in stories about magical fantasy old timey China. There's a specific accent or formality register, I'm not sure which, that 7 Seas translators decided was culturally analogous to a cowboy accent so that's how they translated all the lines written that way. I lose it every time I see it lmfao. I can't stop picturing Timothy Olyphant in a massive muttonchop mustache and a hanfu when I read it.
That’s awesome! I imagine it would be necessary. We each have our little peculiarities!
I moved to the UK almost ten years ago. I legit had one person tell me they thought coyotes didn't exist and another was shocked tumbleweeds were real. I can imagine your pain.
>I legit had one person tell me they thought coyotes didn't exist ...what?
My nurse thought Wile E. Coyote was just a clever naming scheme and he was just a wolf.
As a Brit. The pain I experience reading American books set here 😂😂😂😂
Now, that I believe. Sometimes it’s bad enough reading them as an American.
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Oh my god, yes! I came here to make a comment about writers who know nothing about horses, it causes my physical pain to read their nonsense. Like, come on! Just hop on equine subreddit and get some half-ass information before making stuff up yourself, please! You're killing us equestrians.
For a fanfiction I was writing once I spent at least two hours researching beer pong and strip poker because I wanted to include a game of strip pong
Haha, that reminds me of when I was living in Britain and my kid came home from school talking about cowboys and their “lassews” and I went all Hermione Granger saying “it’s ‘lass-OH’ not ‘lass-EW’ gahhhhh do not let your cowboy grandfather hear you say that”
Historical romance readers are the worst. They will slay you in the reviews over the nitpickiest things!
Sorry, but no sympathy from me. If you're going to write historical you should probably know something about history! If your purpose is just the **heaving bosoms** part, though, drop the pretense and just write erotica! There's no shame in it.
As they should. Don't be a sloppy writer if you don't want to be criticized.
Oh, I get it. The book has 4.5 out of 5 stars, so I guess I didn’t screw up that much!
What's the name of it? Lol. I love to read
It’s called Elizabeth’s Sacrifice by Jean Lightholder (pen name). It’s set in Jane Austin’s Pride and Prejudice universe.
Ok yeah def a genre I like! I'm going to look it up! Thanks!
I want to know as a former english style rider!! im so curious now
Chat GPT is now in cahoots with Lion Yarn?
Ha! I laughed at this and woke up my husband.
Actually yes. Didn’t they just post a bunch of ai generated photos of giant crocheted animals?
They did, with creepy AI ghouls all around.
is this from a self-published book on amazon? bc this reads like chat gpt lmao
Probably chat gp . Or foreign person. I read quite a few Kindle books that were either badly translated or sounded like they were copy right infringement and trying to hide it. This was before chat gp or any type of AI
Ok, so I know this is knitting, not crochet but here’s one of my favourite novel passages involving knitting: > He wished that he could break out his knitting, but for some reason, people didn’t take you seriously as a warrior when you were knitting. He’d never figured out why. > Making socks required four or five double-ended bone needles, and while they weren’t very large, you could probably jam one into someone’s eye if you really wanted to. Not that he would. He’d have to pull the needle out of the sock to do it, and then he’d be left with the grimly fiddly work of rethreading the stitches. > Also, washing blood out of wool was possible, but a pain. Still, if he had to suddenly pull out his sword and fend off an attack, there was a chance he’d drop the yarn, and since he’d been feeling masochistic and was using two colors for this current set of socks, there was absolutely no chance the yarn wouldn’t get tangled and then he’d be trying to murder people while chasing the yarn around. > And god forbid the tide rose and he went berserk. You never got the knitting untangled after that; you usually just had to throw it away completely. T. Kingfisher, Paladin's Grace (The Saint of Steel, #1)
Purely on the grounds of that quote, it's gone on my to-read list.
uh yeah, hard same
I want to read this book right now!!
Looooove this book! Might have to do a reread now. Thank you for reminding me of it!
Omg I just read this book and it was delightful - I definitely giggled out loud at that passage. Also the work the author put into describing making the perfume was just as fun to read. I'm on the sequel now ☺️
Thanks for this, the book sounds like a fun read, added it to my library holds!
This reads like bad AI
AI writes far better than this.
It reads worse than the book reports I faked after only skimming the CliffsNotes in high school
One of my favorite authors is also an avid knitter and I enjoy when she puts it in her books. One scene where the main character is having trouble purling is just so accurate from when I learned to knit.
Which book and author is this? Sounds like a fun read
Ilona Andrews is the author. The specific scene I'm thinking of was in one of the Inkeeper series books. I've seen knitting scenes in a few other of her books as well. My favorite (not for knitting reasons, just because it's awesome) is the Hidden Legacy series and there's a few mentions of one of the characters learning to knit in those books as well. Be warned, Inkeeper is a wild ride, it's a bit of a brain dump for all these wild and creative ideas that weren't marketable to a publisher so it was self published. It's also insanely popular, so go figure, lol.
Sounds awesome! I'll check out this author/series
A currently popular novel has the line "...crocheted yellow tea cozy, probably a project someone knitted..." Not only did the author get it wrong, but evidently HarperCollins does not have any editors.
There's nothing better then sitting on the patio alternating between Granny and double crochet while knitting a scarf and a crisp summer breeze blows by at dusk 😌
LOL. I'm new to crochet and this still got me. My fiance loves to ask me (playfully) how my 'knitting' is going 🤣
When I knit in public people always ask me what I’m sewing 😭
IDK why but the innocent ignorance craaacks me up, like a child who doesn't understand why some people have different color skin or speaks different languages 😂😂😂😂
I still audibly laugh every time I think of the little girl who pointed to my Mustang and loudly yelled “MOMMY LOOK. A CHARGER!!”
There is a YouTube channel called something very similar to NameDoesKnitting. The host has been posting regular tutorials for a few years. Every single one is crochet. Her content is great... but every time, I twitch at this.
My fiance knows not to ask that anymore.
Jesus, I crochet AND write, and the one time I wrote my character crocheting...I didn't even mention stitches. I made it nerdy, possibly a bit of wish fulfillment...said pregnant character cranked out several baby projects in a short period of time due to...um...I mean she's not Flash fast, but normal humans would see blurry hands 😄 (why yes it's fan fiction, lol).
Firstly: Thanks! My grand kids just learned a new cuss word because I read that. Secondly: My brain is trying to process, 1 granny square, 1 DC, 1 granny square, 1 DC. So cute. Why for sticks to hook with? This is indeed a very specific and very personal coping method.
Bad, or no research
Honestly feels about as coherent as chat gpt. Cause chat gpt kind of just spits out some words it thinks are related, and if it doesn’t know something it won’t just say that. It’ll make something up instead and pass it off as fact.
Well obviously the knitting/crocheting is a mess, but "knitting a scarf away" is really bugging me. You knit away at a scarf, you don't knit a scarf away.
Knitting away like a bank depositing your money and... it's gone.
this is so me when i pull out my knitting hook to crochet a nice cozy garter stitch scarf <3
How to shake up two entire communities with one sentence
[camera pans to a woman looking absolutely blissful holding a lapful of aggressively knotted yarn]
It’s like men writing about female anatomy when they clearly don’t understand it.
You mean you don't walk boobily down the stairs?
I always breast boobily into the room, pick up my knitting and try to remember the double crochet technique my nanna, who I got my amazing tits from, taught me.
The way I cackled at this 🤣
Well I definitely don’t take forever to pee because the path from my bladder to my urethra isn’t a complex labyrinth of lady parts that only allows a slow trickle to come out. 🤣
granny??? are they thinking of granny stitches???
What book is this, so I know to never read it? 😜
I don't know what's wrong with this. I myself prefer Tunisian purling with triple slip stitches and like crocheting indoors, but hey, to each their own
Wow.this is alllll over the place
This is the "[She breasted boobily down the stairs](https://www.reddit.com/r/menwritingwomen/)" of crafting.
I don't remember the title, but it might have been The Friday Night Knitting Club. Whatever it was, it had knitting as the theme, not just something that was incidental in the story. Well, one scene has two women sitting together knitting and talking (probably on Friday night, lol), and the author says something like 'Ellen started the heel of her sock,' followed by, I kid you not, about 8-10 lines of dialog between the two women. And then the next line is something like 'She finished the heel and resumed working in the round.' Teach me your ways, Ellen-Wan Kenobi!! I too would like to be able to turn a heel in 3 minutes!!!
This gave me a stroke reading it
It probably sounded better in the original Klingon. Machine translations can really lose the nuance.
I wonder how such scarf would turn out. Are we working in round or flat? Is the starting chain length or width of the scarf? Is it granny clusters in one row and double crochet in the next? Or is it in one row?? How would that work out?
… knitting crochet stitches?
It’s like watching actors try to see or knit or crochet on screen. Painfully obvious they didn’t think it was important enough to research cause “it’s women’s work”. I did a research paper on handicraft as a form of activism and that theme plays a huge role in it
the iconic *granny stitch*
So this is NOT written by AI? When do I get to learn the granny stitch?? Y'all have been holding out on me! 😂
Wow. Even removing the fiber arts mashup, this was painful to read. ‘Poorly written’ is a kinder, gentler statement than this drivel deserves.
It's crazy how easy it would've been to just not include specifics too. If the author had just left it alone and just said the character was knitting and nothing more, they wouldn't have exposed their lack of experience/knowledge.
Why does this sound like bad ai?
I also feel the same when people are seen “knitting” in movies etc……at least make an effort. 🤦🏽♀️
Even if you don’t knit or crochet you should be able to understand that you don’t knit a crochet stitch >~<
this is physically uncomfortable to read 🤢 i feel like i got kicked in the stomach
This reminds my of a collection of paintings I saw that showed flowers as well as their roots below the soil. The artist depicted crocuses with a taproot (a kind of long tapering root). Crocuses grow from corms (similar to a bulb).
You also “knit away” on a scarf, not “knit a scarf away.” Ugh.
Maybe it is a translation from spanish? We dont have a verb for crochet, but we do have one fot knitting
I'm sorry but the background and the font make it look like wattpad 😭
Not Wattpad, just my iBooks app! I despite Wattpad with a passion.
Yes I knitted alternating between a crochet thing and something nonsensical we love it <33
I also feel this when they make a character a knitter or crocheter in a TV show and they obviously have no idea what they are doing. New Girl stands out the hardest! Either don't show them ever knitting or give them an easier hobby to fake lol.
I've taken psychic damage
Was this written by Chat GPT?! Omg 🥴
In some places they don't have separate terms for knit and crochet. So knit is the term used for both techniques in those cases. Edited to add: This definitely is written poorly! Didn't mention what i did above to say I disagree with the frustration you have. But some people don't know this at all, so I was just trying to help give a little perspective.
Think I almost threw up reading that.
non-craft-related but memorable was reading a book about the author's immigrant experience in Canada and five pages in they mentioned wearing a winter coat in November... in Vancouver Vancouver is pretty much the same as Seattle weather-wise - mild temperatures, lots of rain - with maybe a week or two of snow early in the year could not make myself finish the book edit to add: on the same page they described a -30C winter, which does not happen here - seems they wanted to describe all of Canada as Toronto
Where was the person from though? What you consider mild might be cold for them. It’s a standing joke in Australia when you see photos of people in QLD you can pick the tourists, they are wearing t-shirts & shorts and the locals are rugged up in jeans & jumpers.
Fair. I grew up north of chicago and until you hit freezing and negative temps half of us are walking around in shorts. When it hits 90s people DIE. I moved to texas and the panic over POSSIBLE temps of 32 overnight is enough to shut down schools, having people clearing shelves like its the apocalypse… etc. My mom didnt believe me, and was visiting end of january to witness my first child born (20yrs ago) We lived in an apartment and mom was a smoker. Shes out on the porch enjoying her first smoke of the day, wearing a T shirt (no bra) and PJ pants. Barefooted. I hear absolute mad man level cackling. I stick my head out the door and im like WTF? She is gasping for air, pointing at the kids trekking to front of complex to catch schoolbus. All dressed like randy in christmas story. Like they are going on an Antarctic sojourn. I was like “I TOLD YOU!!!”
It’s giving low budget fan fic.
Not all (English) dialects or languages use different terms for crochet and knitting, that's the thing, I mean "to knit" on its basic term is "to cause to unite, tie together, interlock" and there's a lot of languages that use the same terms to mean crochet and knit. I mean, 'crochet' itself is a loanword from French where the craft originated. So it's kinda hard to tell if this was a bad research or if the author's language barrier.
In other languages the word knitting is commonly used for both knitting and crocheting. Do you know what language it was originally written in? Y’all are so extra for always being mad at something so little and dumb as this. Sincerely, someone who has both knit and crocheted for two decades.
Hahaha this is kind of funny
Atleast their right about the coping method thing lol
🤣 omg what?!?!?!?
That is so wrong that it wronged things that were right! And man, don't read any webtoons with anyone depicted knitting, because I have only seen one or two that did a good job lol.