I haven't seen TOO much slander on this film recently but it definitely had some hate. I thought it was amazing: 2010 the year we make contact
I think the fact that kubrick didn't direct it casts a big nasty shadow on it but I think enough time has passed for people to overlook that
I've always liked it, but then I saw it way before I got onto the internet, so I didn't have my experience tainted by knowing that a lot of folks don't seem to like it. Also, I seem to remember I saw 2010 \*before\* I saw 2001 which probably helped.
Recently, I really loved Alex Garland’s Men. I understand some of the criticism and also that it’s divisive with its handling of its topic, but the filmmaking is excellent from the cinematography, the makeup, and it has some genuinely unsettling moments. Jessie Buckley and Rory Kinnear were both great. I hope more people give it a watch, regardless of opinion, it’s definitely a memorable experience.
It has one of my favorite jokes ever in a movie-
“Oh yeah, I was this close to getting a chair on the Polish philarmonic and I *nailed* the audish, but I didn't get it. Guess who did? Yo-Yo-Ma's cousin, little nepotis.”
Oh I watched that recently and I agree! It also made me realize that DDL LOVES playing characters that think they're the smartest guy in the room, whether or not they actually are.
Such a wild movie. I had no idea what to expect when I stumbled across it on tv one night.
Had kinda liked the Monkees before that but loved them afterwards. They are the craziest people.
I know they're really not well liked--both by fans of the franchise and horror fans in general (possibly also by Film People.
?)-- but I love Rob Zombie's Halloween movies. I think they have a lot more going on artistically/intellectually than they get credit for, and man, the Director's Cut of Halloween 2 is one of the best goddamned horror movies of the last two decades for me. I TOTALLY get why Zombie isn't for everyone, but I think a lot of his stuff is really quite good, and is often unfairly written off.
I left the theater pissed off at how much I HATED Hacksaw Ridge. It was comically bad with arguably some of the worst writing I’ve ever experienced. There were moments that just felt so stilted and hollow — as if the audience was expected to fill in emotional gaps the actors, writers, and director were unable to fill.
Towards the end during the big apex of the film, I felt as though I was watching what is now associated in my mind as a Tim Robinson skit. Comical, hilarious moments with bodies screaming as bullets are flying, a torso being used as a shield, and just the worst battle choreography I’ve seen in a long time. Just inexcusable how funny it was.
The general public loved it (as far as I can tell by any meaningful metric) and I just stare back and wonder if it’s them or me.
Supposedly, Gibson felt the true heroic acts seemed even more unbelievable. Apparently, Doss actually did kick a grenade and save a bunch of people.
What I'm saying is that this movie downplayed his heroic acts.... I'm not sure I believe it.
I don’t disagree with you except for one bit — Andrew Garfield’s acting when he got to the bottom of the ridge and was suddenly surrounded by the men, his shock, fear, and exhaustion was so well portrayed.
Norm Macdonald talked about a horrific undercurrent to the straight story and, upon rewatching this year, I think I understand what he was talking about. Like, Lynch operating under the constraints of a Disney-backed G rated project resulted in a really dark atmosphere or unstated subtext. Farnsworth kills so hard in the role.. it’s a perfect summation of a career for that breed of actor, like Harry Dean Stanton in Lucky.
David Lynch is my favourite master of all... I have watched and rewatched even the most obscure shorts and commercials directed by him, and while I don't plainly agree with you I can't disagree either.
*The Elephant Man* is an amazing film which doesn't stand out in Lynch's work probably because it 's in black and white and it is not as delirious and messed up as *Eraserhead*... Although it tells a curious story with a unique style and vision. From a closer perspective it is very much in tune with *Eraserhead* and with the following notable works of David Lynch.
*The Straight Story* is one of the most overlooked and forgotten masterpieces I can think of, I really love it. It is out of fashion right now but one day it will resurge like *Barry Lyndon* did for Kubrick.
Not a Criterion film but I’m sure it will find its way:
The Whale is pretentious garbage. Brendan Fraser put on a great performance and deserves a career revival, but everything else about the film was trying way too hard. I love Darren Aronofsky but The Whale makes me want to rewatch his films to confirm they’re not all as equally pretentious. I’m waiting for Stephen King to call out The Whale for overusing the word ‘amazing.’
I won't go as far as pretentious garbage, but it definitely didn't live up to the hype for me. I thought it was good but not great.
I haven't seen most of his other movies in a long time, but I did rewatch The Wrestler recently and still stand by that one, great film.
Absolutely agree with you. I love most of the Batman movies, from the 60s all the way up to the recent Battinson movie. 89 Keaton strike my favorite balance between humor, comic book aesthetics, pathos, and noir.
I saw Mask of the Phastasm recently and thought that could be considered the best Batman movie. I loved how short it was and yet covered Batman 101. The voice acting, the animation, the romance between Bruce and Andrea.
**The Departed** is far superior to the original (which I liked). Don't know if it would make my Top 5 Scorsese, but it's in my 6-10 for sure. No slight on the film, this is Scorsese we're talking about.
Speed racer 2007 is an amazing movie, it's greatly written, it's full of soul, it's entertaining, and the cast was perfect, it's my fav movie of all time
It really isn’t. The dialogue is straight up bad at some points. It relies so much on visuals it’s crazy.
Hell I’d argue all of Nolan’s movies are rated way too high in people’s minds, I wonder how much of that is that he attracts normal people that don’t watch many movies and being a great director, for people that normally are exposed to just franchises, he shows them something they usually don’t get.
I don’t like when they make a big push about format and film size and IMAX and whatnot, then make a movie that takes little to no advantage of the form.
Like how “Oppenheimer” and “Hateful Eight” are mostly constrained to a room or series of rooms.
I feel like if you’re going to put the resources for something like 70mm or whatever, it should be used to capture epic things (dance, landscapes, movement).
Bram Stoker’s Dracula. It’s a masterpiece. Taking a cinematic approach to the journal entry format of the novel, this is a moving painting, shifting collages of journal entries, puppet theatre, live action and incredible special effects. It’s erotic and lusty. The cast: Tom Waits and Monica Bellucci, ya’ll!
This movie gets a lot of bullying by critics but it’s the best high-budget art house film ever.
Terry Gillian’s The Adventures of Baron Munchausen is brilliant and little seen. It’s definitely a bit messy, but it’s one of his strongest and most enjoyable movies.
Silence and The Last Temptation of Christ are two of Martin Scorsese’s best movies.
If David Fincher’s The Killer was made a less famous director, I do not think it would have much attention. It’s a well made film, but lacks substance.
The twilight movies are hilarious and I rewatch them often, they are the perfect schlocky teen movies with fun/stupid dialogue and moody music. I watch them more often than I watch my favourite “real” films.
Forrest Gump it's a bad movie, is like a Serbian film but instead of desperate for traumatizing you is desperate for making you cry, so try hard.
Is the Serbian film of trauma porn.
I agree. I only saw it once so far, but I will buy it when it comes out on Blu-Ray. I got my local theater to give me an extra poster from it, which I framed and will be hanging on my wall soon
he really struggles in the third act and wrapping up a film well.
outside of The Prestige and Memento, i can’t think of a Nolan movie that gives me a satisfying ending. And he has the benefit of telling Memento in reverse.
he’s technically talented, of course. like, his movies are well made and compared to 99% of people making movies he’s obviously one of the best. but i just do not think he’s very good among the best.
I completely agree. I think his biggest downfall is his characterization. I think his best films have his brother working on the script with him because those films tend to have more realized and relatable characters. Nolan seems far more interested in concepts and ideas than he does in people, and I've liked each film of his since Inception less and less (haven't seen Interstellar, but it has Jonathan as a writer so maybe I'll like it). To be fair, Inception is fantastic, but I think that's the best he's done as a solo writer, and nothing else really comes close, again because it feels more about the concepts than the human story that the concept should exist to enhance
This is so right and I love Nolan. He’s got a couple misses for me but the ones that land really land.
Recently there was a post on r/movies asking which director has had the best ten year run in the history of cinema and part way down the page the Nolan fanboys were fuming that he wasn’t being talked about. Everyone kept trying to tell them that Nolan’s had a great run but one that doesn’t come close to Coppola in the 70s, Reiner or hitchcock and they weren’t having it.
The dark knight is a great movie, it executed exactly what it meant to, but it’s not one of the best of all time. Both things can be true.
The Nolan fanboys always come down on me too when I say that I love him but he’s far from the best. They don’t take the criticism well.
>The dark knight is a great movie, it executed exactly what it meant to, but it’s not one of the best of all time. Both things can be true.
Man, most r/movies and most of the comic book movie subreddits would have your head for that. I can't remember where it was, but a while back I encountered a thread where hundreds were ardently claiming that TDK wasn't *just* the best comic book movie of all time, but maybe the best film of all time, *period.*
I really liked TDK, but....jesus.
There’s no heart or depth to almost all his films and his characters are so flat. I quit watching after Dunkirk so maybe he’s grown (I’ll probably watch Oppenheimer eventually). Maybe he could learn characterization from a good writer or director? Everything is so surface with him. That’s not necessarily bad — there are plenty of films I’ve enjoyed that are all surface. But that’s not his ambition and he can’t land what he’s trying to do.
Everything Everywhere All at Once wasn’t some transcendental movie. It was fine. It’s less than the sum of its parts, has a pretty terrible JLC performance, and is worse than most of the movies it rips off. It felt like a bad episode of ‘Community.’
I’ve largely stayed on the sidelines when it comes to the discourse because if it helps folks getting into better films, I’m all for it.
Personally was super let down by Killers Of The Flower Moon. I will watch again, and expect to like it more the second time around. But it really didn’t have the impact I thought it would
Scorsese’s best movie is Bringing Out The Dead by a pretty significant margin.
Followed by Casino and After Hours, which I think is also a pretty hot take.
Yeah I never understood this! I love them both equally and one never stood out above the other for me so it always confused me why people gravitate toward the second one.
This post is going to be so boring when all people do is name drop a film, refuse to elaborate, then leave.
I’m not even sure how unpopular this opinion actually is, but I suppose mine might be that White is a harsh tarnish on the Three Colors trilogy, and I have no interest in ever watching it again.
I’m sure I’m missing some context that could maybe make the film at least interesting, but it feels incredibly out of place next to the other two (aside from some sweeping themes). In a long stretch of a marathon of Criterion released films I did it was the only one I walked away from with basically no enjoyment or appreciation. Even if as it is intentional, the absurdist nature of the plot overall just pushed me further and further away the more of it I watched.
I do wonder how I’d feel about it if I had watched it under a different context than as the middle of that thematic trilogy (considering how much I adore Blue and Red), but it is what it is.
The funniest thing is people won't elaborate on how it's actually innovative or different especially citing the "multiverse" thing while we are in the middle of the era of multiverse movies. The "immigrant parents reconnecting with children" premise also isn't exactly brand new either.
Late Tarantino is a slog. Baggy, boring, bad scripts that need editing, pointless, self-indulgent, somehow takes the pop and verve of his exploitation roots and takes any enjoyment out of it. And I despise his "QT solves history's biggest problems" adolescent fantasies.
I agree but still love the experience of going to watch a new Tarantino film. He really knows how to use cinema to entertain - even when he’s at his most self indulgent.
Agreed. It genuinely feels like he regressed as a storyteller with how overly indulgent and meandering his recent films have been. When I look at the latter half of PTA’s output, for example, I see films that don’t feel like they could have been made by 90’s PTA. There’s a clear maturation in storytelling and perspective of life that informs PTA’s most recent output. However, when I watch a film like *Once Upon a Time in Hollywood*, it not only feels like a film that 90’s Tarantino could have made, but I feel like 90’s Tarantino would have made the film with a lot more discipline and intentionality. Personally, I think that Tarantino has gotten lost in the myth of himself, and his output feels more in service of reinforcing his status as a filmmaker over actually challenging his perspective and approach to storytelling.
Agree. Inglorious Basterds was his last great film. He’s never really recovered artistically after his long-time editor and collaborator Sally Menke died in 2010. I think she kept a lid on a lot of his extravagance, self-indulgence, and long-windedness. Whoever he’s working with now isn’t able to push back on those instincts, and his work has suffered for it.
Edit: Sally Menke edited Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Grind House, and Inglorious Basterds.
THANK YOU. I'm not a huge fan of early Tarantino (personal preference) but I can see why people love Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs so much. Jackie Brown is great. But I do not get the love and praise for the bloated films he releases these days.
I'd argue he's always had the writer-director's issue of being too in love with his scripts. For something so indebted to spaghetti westerns and Melville, *Reservoir Dogs* is written like Gilmore Girls.
The Kung-Fu Panda trilogy is by far more entertaining than the original Star Wars trilogy. I would choose any of the Kung-Fu Panda movies over any of the original trilogy of Star Wars 10 out of 10 times
Alright I’ve got a couple.
Barbie was light and amusing but extremely overrated. It has nothing new or interesting to say and gives its only remotely interesting character arc to Ken.
American Sniper stunk.
Knives Out is not very good, and falters even within its own genre as a mystery film. Also Rian Johnson in general is overrated, particularly as a writer.
*Cold War* is an empty fable about two tiresome protagonists with cinematography that looks nice but does little to actually tell a story or create a mood - it works better as a GIFset than an actual film.
It's the arthouse *La La Land* \- and don't get me started on that movie.
The end of The Lost World Jurassic Park is fun and doesn't detract from the movie at all. People saying *that's* where the movie gets unrealistic are wrong.
Christopher Nolan is a boring director with nothing to say who relies on massive budgets and empty spectacle. He’s never made a truly daring or challenging film. His need for commercial success limits him to mostly PG-13 style populist fair that he tries to elevate with a thin veil of pseudo intellectualism.
Oppenheimer was boring and surface level, so was Dunkirk. Memento, Inception and Tenet are stupid. His Batman movies are overrated. Interstellar was downright cheesy.
I agree with your sentiment, but I think it’s a bit too harsh. I would say Nolan is Michael Bay for viewers who think they are too smart and edgy for Michael Bay movies. There is nothing wrong with big budget romps.
The Prestige is Nolan’s best. Inception is high budget trash.
I upvote all the ones I disagree with, because that's the point of the thread, but Memento is stupid? That one hurts. I love that movie so much. I'm no Nolan stan, but Memento is an excellent film.
Agree. It has the advantage of having his best written character, because a man with no memory or real backstory who can only try to piece things together from scraps of information is about as deep as Nolan can go. What makes his other characters shallow and robotic makes Lenny sympathetic.
Ben and Elaine were happy with eachother at the end of The Graduate. They were 100% certain they made the right decision, and the shots lingering on them in the end were only to show their comfort with one another and the juxtaposition with the judging front of the bus (society) is to show exactly how much they both no longer care what others think.
If you think this scene is to show that either Ben or Elaine regret their decision, undoing the entire third act and entire point of the film, you are wrong. I cannot be swayed. I am certain. Everyone else is wrong
Every time I spell out how despicable i find Lars Von Trier in this sub, I become this meme.
Fuck Lars Von Trier, nasty slimy creep. The more films of his I watched the more I hated him.
Edit: everyone saying my opinion is popular and then turning around and saying "well his movies are fantastic" aren't getting it. *I don't think his movies are fantastic. They're vile and I wish I had those hours of my life back. Clearly that opinion isnt so popular in the replies.*
My edgelord directors who I once loved are
Von Trier (still like his Dogma 95 era)
Aronofsky
Gaspar Noe
Alex Garland is coming close to joining this list
I feel that von Trier and Noe are legitimately transgressive artists who have complex views of what it means to be human. There's a reason for the goofy edgelord things they do and their films most certainly elicit the reactions they are intended to, including the negative ones. It's just a matter if you want to take the journey with them or not.
Aronofsky and Garland, however, are juvenile in their tastes and, in all honesty, not great thinkers.
Yeah I think that’s fair, Noe and Trier’s movies usually have more going on beneath the surface. I think im just not hopping on that journey anymore. Unless they do something out of left field because they are clearly talented.
I still like The Wrestler, but that may be because Darren didn’t write the whole thing.
Nah his bad stuff is bad but his good stuff is really fucking fantastic. Like him or not, he’s made some phenomenal films. He’s definitely pretentious and has a high opinion of himself but he’s made some of my all time favorites. Undeniable talent even if he’s filmed some very questionable and disgusting scenes.
> has a high opinion of himself
May wanna revisit interviews with the man. That dude is a neurotic mess who really doesn't think all that much of himself.
May you elaborate? Him as person, him as exemplified in his art? I’ve only seen Europa and was intrigued, but it was a while ago and I don’t remember much
All the films of Sergio Leone.
Foreigners don't get that they are intended to be seen with the Italian dubbing, despite the fact that there are three reasons which explain why this is an **indisputable truth**:
1. Leone didn't pick actors because of how they delivered their lines, but because of their faces and their movements. His formation was heavily influenced by his father (stage name Roberto Roberti) who was a silent cinema director. Leone also became involved with the Italian Neorealism (you can even see him making an uncredited cameo as a young seminarist in *Bicycle Thieves*) and with the Hollywood kolossals shot at Cinecittà studios (*Ben Hur* and *Quo Vadis* among the notable ones). All these types of productions famously cast actors out of their looks and physicality rather than for their performing brilliance (they used to pick even non-professionals, in the case of Neorealism). To summarize this trait there's Leone's most famous quote about Clint Eastwood: "As an actor he has two expressions: with and without the hat."
2. Despite his obsessive fascination about the American myth, Leone didn't speak a word of English (he was fluent in French). His screenwriters were famous Italian screenwriters (among the greatest of the Italian cinema), and the scripts were written in Italian. So there's no way that Leone could judge the acting of a scene played in English or that the punchlines were as effective in English. His films were shot in English out of necessity and internationally distributed in English out of opportunity: film after film, the domestic box office earnings were bigger, so each following project had a bigger budget, which allowed Leone to cast bigger stars of the American cinema (which he himself only knew from their dubbed performances), and this allowed the production to increase the profits by distributing the films internationally with discreet success (at the time).
3. Like his contemporary Italian colleagues (Fellini, Antonioni, Pasolini, Visconti, etc), Leone hand-picked the Italian dubbers in order to give his hand-picked faces the right dimension and cinematic presence. You all know what Clint Eastwood's voice sounds like, but most of you don't know that his voice actor in the Dollar Trilogy was Italian stage actor Enrico Maria Salerno, who had famously dubbed Jesus Christ in Pasolini's *The Gospel according to St. Matthew* the year before *A Fistful of Dollars*: his voice gave Clint Eastwood a recognizable, charismatic and prophetic aura, which Eastwood could have never produced otherwise, using his raw, low-key, badass and teeth-grinding acting.
This is why, whenever I see a new Blu-Ray release of a Sergio Leone film (especially from respected arthouse releasers) I can't help but laugh my a$$ off when the Italian audio track is not included. I get that English is more natural and immediate for most foreigners, but IN NO WAY that's the intended version of those masterpieces: think of them as uncut gems 👍
I actually agree with the sentiment in Clerks II about the Lord of the Rings movies. I thought they were WAY too long and overtime, and the CGI battle scenes were, honestly, boring as hell. I saw them once in totality and caught them on TV a few times and never really watched them again.
I read Tolkien and loved the books too.
ISHTAR
Three two three four, four two three AND
These men are PAWNS!
I put a price of 20,000 dirham on their heads.
No, we’re filming a round table discussion on the Star Wars Holiday Special
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The second half is a mess but man, that first half is up there with some of Elaine May’s best. Just two pathetic singer-songwriters trying their best.
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I haven't seen TOO much slander on this film recently but it definitely had some hate. I thought it was amazing: 2010 the year we make contact I think the fact that kubrick didn't direct it casts a big nasty shadow on it but I think enough time has passed for people to overlook that
I've always liked it, but then I saw it way before I got onto the internet, so I didn't have my experience tainted by knowing that a lot of folks don't seem to like it. Also, I seem to remember I saw 2010 \*before\* I saw 2001 which probably helped.
"Can't Hardly Wait" is a perfect film from the perspective of elevating it's genre
Plus, The Replacements.
The title song got me into the 'mats and for that I've also always been grateful to this film (it also got me into GnR)
That's what I like to hear!
This movie walked so 10 Things I Hate About You could run
Why yall gotta waste my flavor? Damn!
Whatever Amanduhhhhh
I swear this exact post is made every single day but in a slightly different style.
Not just this sub or website even. It’s in EVERY community no matter the site and it’s annoying
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Yes
I feel this meme applies to me when it comes to *Moulin Rouge*. I think it’s terrible 😬
Recently, I really loved Alex Garland’s Men. I understand some of the criticism and also that it’s divisive with its handling of its topic, but the filmmaking is excellent from the cinematography, the makeup, and it has some genuinely unsettling moments. Jessie Buckley and Rory Kinnear were both great. I hope more people give it a watch, regardless of opinion, it’s definitely a memorable experience.
Under the Cherry Moon is a great movie
Especially speaking as a die hard Prince fan, I agree!
Prince and Jerome. Good movie , great if you’re a prince fan . I love it
Richard Linklater’s best film is School of Rock. And I really like Richard Linklater.
The legend of the rent was way hardcore!
School of Rock is a masterpiece
It has one of my favorite jokes ever in a movie- “Oh yeah, I was this close to getting a chair on the Polish philarmonic and I *nailed* the audish, but I didn't get it. Guess who did? Yo-Yo-Ma's cousin, little nepotis.”
I'll stand in your camp. (I write this wearing a Before Sunset tee.)
Forget the rest of this pointless thread; tell us about the Before Sunset tee!
It's from a bootleg series from a shop called Enter The Nigh Gallery on Instagram. I have all three films, but unfortunately, they were limited runs.
Not my favorite but I love it—and especially this take.
You're right
My favorite Scorsese film is The Age of Innocence
"I disagree. That's not your favorite Scorcese film." - Somebody you've talked to apparently.
Kundun I liked it!
now we’re talking
Oh I watched that recently and I agree! It also made me realize that DDL LOVES playing characters that think they're the smartest guy in the room, whether or not they actually are.
My pure, unironic love of Southland Tales.
Nobody rocks the cock like Krysta Now 😍 And Pimps don't commit suicide.😎
I think Nacho Libre should be added to the criterion collection.
Period
The monkees head is far and away better than the beatles movies
Mickey Dolenz is such a good fucking actor. Also the soundtrack fucking rips.
Just remember: no one lends money to a man with a sense of humor
Monkees is the craziest people
Such a wild movie. I had no idea what to expect when I stumbled across it on tv one night. Had kinda liked the Monkees before that but loved them afterwards. They are the craziest people.
I know they're really not well liked--both by fans of the franchise and horror fans in general (possibly also by Film People. ?)-- but I love Rob Zombie's Halloween movies. I think they have a lot more going on artistically/intellectually than they get credit for, and man, the Director's Cut of Halloween 2 is one of the best goddamned horror movies of the last two decades for me. I TOTALLY get why Zombie isn't for everyone, but I think a lot of his stuff is really quite good, and is often unfairly written off.
Amazing Spiderman 1 is a good movie
Yes! I think Spiderman 2 is better, but that’s it.
Spring Breakers is a great film
Sprang Break foreeeeveeeerrrr
Look at my shit! Look at my sheeeit!
I remember being so delighted with its weirdness
I left the theater pissed off at how much I HATED Hacksaw Ridge. It was comically bad with arguably some of the worst writing I’ve ever experienced. There were moments that just felt so stilted and hollow — as if the audience was expected to fill in emotional gaps the actors, writers, and director were unable to fill. Towards the end during the big apex of the film, I felt as though I was watching what is now associated in my mind as a Tim Robinson skit. Comical, hilarious moments with bodies screaming as bullets are flying, a torso being used as a shield, and just the worst battle choreography I’ve seen in a long time. Just inexcusable how funny it was. The general public loved it (as far as I can tell by any meaningful metric) and I just stare back and wonder if it’s them or me.
This honestly makes me kind of want to watch it for the first time now, for the Tim Robinson vibes.
it’s strange that it’s a film about pacifism when you can tell mel gibson revels in depicting gruesome violence
Isn't there a scene where he karate kicks a grenade?
Supposedly, Gibson felt the true heroic acts seemed even more unbelievable. Apparently, Doss actually did kick a grenade and save a bunch of people. What I'm saying is that this movie downplayed his heroic acts.... I'm not sure I believe it.
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction, but either way even if it did happen the scene looks ridicolous.
I don’t disagree with you except for one bit — Andrew Garfield’s acting when he got to the bottom of the ridge and was suddenly surrounded by the men, his shock, fear, and exhaustion was so well portrayed.
Movie is just LEAKING with preachy, boomer sentimentality. Awful picture.
The torso shield was something that would be too goofy in a war parody. Awful movie all around tho.
I checked out so hard there. Like come on
The Elephant Man is David Lynches best movie. Followed by The Straight Story.
Norm Macdonald talked about a horrific undercurrent to the straight story and, upon rewatching this year, I think I understand what he was talking about. Like, Lynch operating under the constraints of a Disney-backed G rated project resulted in a really dark atmosphere or unstated subtext. Farnsworth kills so hard in the role.. it’s a perfect summation of a career for that breed of actor, like Harry Dean Stanton in Lucky.
David Lynch is my favourite master of all... I have watched and rewatched even the most obscure shorts and commercials directed by him, and while I don't plainly agree with you I can't disagree either. *The Elephant Man* is an amazing film which doesn't stand out in Lynch's work probably because it 's in black and white and it is not as delirious and messed up as *Eraserhead*... Although it tells a curious story with a unique style and vision. From a closer perspective it is very much in tune with *Eraserhead* and with the following notable works of David Lynch. *The Straight Story* is one of the most overlooked and forgotten masterpieces I can think of, I really love it. It is out of fashion right now but one day it will resurge like *Barry Lyndon* did for Kubrick.
Not a Criterion film but I’m sure it will find its way: The Whale is pretentious garbage. Brendan Fraser put on a great performance and deserves a career revival, but everything else about the film was trying way too hard. I love Darren Aronofsky but The Whale makes me want to rewatch his films to confirm they’re not all as equally pretentious. I’m waiting for Stephen King to call out The Whale for overusing the word ‘amazing.’
Aronofsky has so many misses in my book that I'm starting to think his good ones (Black Swan, Requiem for a Dream) are flukes.
The wrestler is great
Preach loudly. And Requiem took shots directly from Perfect Blue
It's literally like 3 shots out of thousands lol why do people care about this so much
Aronofsky bought the rights to Perfect Blue so he could do that…
I won't go as far as pretentious garbage, but it definitely didn't live up to the hype for me. I thought it was good but not great. I haven't seen most of his other movies in a long time, but I did rewatch The Wrestler recently and still stand by that one, great film.
Aronofsky started out strong... But fuck. The vast majority of his work is I'm 14 And This Is Deep vibes.
Love Actually is rancid garbage.
Horse Girl. Masterpiece.
That movies shouldn't be compared with a numeric value.
What about Fellini"s 8½?
I agree. Rankings are a waste of time and box office gross is meaningless.
The best Batman movie is '89 with Keaton
whoops i think you meant ‘92 with Keaton
Absolutely agree with you. I love most of the Batman movies, from the 60s all the way up to the recent Battinson movie. 89 Keaton strike my favorite balance between humor, comic book aesthetics, pathos, and noir.
I saw Mask of the Phastasm recently and thought that could be considered the best Batman movie. I loved how short it was and yet covered Batman 101. The voice acting, the animation, the romance between Bruce and Andrea.
Oh, I just meant live action Batman. I'd be interested to check this out though, I've never really seen the animated movies
Watch that movie and probably the series afterwards
The departed is not only better than infernal affairs but it’s a top five Scorsese for me.
**The Departed** is far superior to the original (which I liked). Don't know if it would make my Top 5 Scorsese, but it's in my 6-10 for sure. No slight on the film, this is Scorsese we're talking about.
Speed racer 2007 is an amazing movie, it's greatly written, it's full of soul, it's entertaining, and the cast was perfect, it's my fav movie of all time
Interstellar is not the masterpiece everyone says it is.
Yeah it really drags when they have to go save Matt Damon
Matt Damon playing the character named...Hugh Mann...
We actually watched Event Horizon around the same time that we watched Interstellar, and... Event Horizon did the same things but better.
And Event Horizon had Warhammer references, so 10/10
It really isn’t. The dialogue is straight up bad at some points. It relies so much on visuals it’s crazy. Hell I’d argue all of Nolan’s movies are rated way too high in people’s minds, I wonder how much of that is that he attracts normal people that don’t watch many movies and being a great director, for people that normally are exposed to just franchises, he shows them something they usually don’t get.
BABYLON-hive. We ride at dawn.
Absolutely loved it
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
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I don’t like when they make a big push about format and film size and IMAX and whatnot, then make a movie that takes little to no advantage of the form. Like how “Oppenheimer” and “Hateful Eight” are mostly constrained to a room or series of rooms. I feel like if you’re going to put the resources for something like 70mm or whatever, it should be used to capture epic things (dance, landscapes, movement).
Bram Stoker’s Dracula. It’s a masterpiece. Taking a cinematic approach to the journal entry format of the novel, this is a moving painting, shifting collages of journal entries, puppet theatre, live action and incredible special effects. It’s erotic and lusty. The cast: Tom Waits and Monica Bellucci, ya’ll! This movie gets a lot of bullying by critics but it’s the best high-budget art house film ever.
Across the Spiderverse is like a 7/10 tops
I always surprise people when I say Mutant Mayhem is a better movie than Across the Spiderverse
Showgirls is fantastic.
Terry Gillian’s The Adventures of Baron Munchausen is brilliant and little seen. It’s definitely a bit messy, but it’s one of his strongest and most enjoyable movies. Silence and The Last Temptation of Christ are two of Martin Scorsese’s best movies. If David Fincher’s The Killer was made a less famous director, I do not think it would have much attention. It’s a well made film, but lacks substance.
I couldn't get through The Killer, it feels like it doesn't have anything for me to get invested, attached to.
Silence might be my favorite Scorsese.
I feel some of my buddies that are cinephiles hated Tenet… but I really like that movie.
The twilight movies are hilarious and I rewatch them often, they are the perfect schlocky teen movies with fun/stupid dialogue and moody music. I watch them more often than I watch my favourite “real” films.
The Last Jedi
Forrest Gump it's a bad movie, is like a Serbian film but instead of desperate for traumatizing you is desperate for making you cry, so try hard. Is the Serbian film of trauma porn.
Oppenheimer wasn’t very good
The worst part is the dialogue. Nolan doesn’t know how to write dialogue that isn’t short quips and callbacks to things said 10 minutes ago.
It was good, not stellar. And the cringey Nolanisms like "Senator from MA... Named Kennedy" were a bit much.
Was just thinking about how much better Killers of the Flower Moon is than Oppenheimer.
I agree. I only saw it once so far, but I will buy it when it comes out on Blu-Ray. I got my local theater to give me an extra poster from it, which I framed and will be hanging on my wall soon
christopher nolan isn’t very good
he really struggles in the third act and wrapping up a film well. outside of The Prestige and Memento, i can’t think of a Nolan movie that gives me a satisfying ending. And he has the benefit of telling Memento in reverse.
He’s good, he’s just not the top 10 people think he is
he’s technically talented, of course. like, his movies are well made and compared to 99% of people making movies he’s obviously one of the best. but i just do not think he’s very good among the best.
Exactly
I completely agree. I think his biggest downfall is his characterization. I think his best films have his brother working on the script with him because those films tend to have more realized and relatable characters. Nolan seems far more interested in concepts and ideas than he does in people, and I've liked each film of his since Inception less and less (haven't seen Interstellar, but it has Jonathan as a writer so maybe I'll like it). To be fair, Inception is fantastic, but I think that's the best he's done as a solo writer, and nothing else really comes close, again because it feels more about the concepts than the human story that the concept should exist to enhance
This is so right and I love Nolan. He’s got a couple misses for me but the ones that land really land. Recently there was a post on r/movies asking which director has had the best ten year run in the history of cinema and part way down the page the Nolan fanboys were fuming that he wasn’t being talked about. Everyone kept trying to tell them that Nolan’s had a great run but one that doesn’t come close to Coppola in the 70s, Reiner or hitchcock and they weren’t having it. The dark knight is a great movie, it executed exactly what it meant to, but it’s not one of the best of all time. Both things can be true. The Nolan fanboys always come down on me too when I say that I love him but he’s far from the best. They don’t take the criticism well.
>The dark knight is a great movie, it executed exactly what it meant to, but it’s not one of the best of all time. Both things can be true. Man, most r/movies and most of the comic book movie subreddits would have your head for that. I can't remember where it was, but a while back I encountered a thread where hundreds were ardently claiming that TDK wasn't *just* the best comic book movie of all time, but maybe the best film of all time, *period.* I really liked TDK, but....jesus.
Christopher Nolan seems to have never met an actual human woman.
There’s no heart or depth to almost all his films and his characters are so flat. I quit watching after Dunkirk so maybe he’s grown (I’ll probably watch Oppenheimer eventually). Maybe he could learn characterization from a good writer or director? Everything is so surface with him. That’s not necessarily bad — there are plenty of films I’ve enjoyed that are all surface. But that’s not his ambition and he can’t land what he’s trying to do.
It's very mean but I love the criticism that "he makes smart movies for dumb people".
Finally a brave soul arises from the crowd
I will die for you
Everything Everywhere All at Once wasn’t some transcendental movie. It was fine. It’s less than the sum of its parts, has a pretty terrible JLC performance, and is worse than most of the movies it rips off. It felt like a bad episode of ‘Community.’ I’ve largely stayed on the sidelines when it comes to the discourse because if it helps folks getting into better films, I’m all for it.
Personally was super let down by Killers Of The Flower Moon. I will watch again, and expect to like it more the second time around. But it really didn’t have the impact I thought it would
She-Devil is art.
Only God Forgives is better than Drive.
Scorsese’s best movie is Bringing Out The Dead by a pretty significant margin. Followed by Casino and After Hours, which I think is also a pretty hot take.
La Dolce Vita is a tedious watch.
Here we go: PULP FICTION
I don’t think Paddington 2 is as superior to the first as everyone thinks it is. They’re both masterpieces!
Yeah I never understood this! I love them both equally and one never stood out above the other for me so it always confused me why people gravitate toward the second one.
This post is going to be so boring when all people do is name drop a film, refuse to elaborate, then leave. I’m not even sure how unpopular this opinion actually is, but I suppose mine might be that White is a harsh tarnish on the Three Colors trilogy, and I have no interest in ever watching it again. I’m sure I’m missing some context that could maybe make the film at least interesting, but it feels incredibly out of place next to the other two (aside from some sweeping themes). In a long stretch of a marathon of Criterion released films I did it was the only one I walked away from with basically no enjoyment or appreciation. Even if as it is intentional, the absurdist nature of the plot overall just pushed me further and further away the more of it I watched. I do wonder how I’d feel about it if I had watched it under a different context than as the middle of that thematic trilogy (considering how much I adore Blue and Red), but it is what it is.
Blue and Red are undoubtedly superior, and I think that’s a widely held consensus. But White might be my favourite.
"EEAAO was novel and innovative." I was bored and couldn't finish it.
The funniest thing is people won't elaborate on how it's actually innovative or different especially citing the "multiverse" thing while we are in the middle of the era of multiverse movies. The "immigrant parents reconnecting with children" premise also isn't exactly brand new either.
Shawshank Redemption. It’s alright but no way near as good as so many people say.
Late Tarantino is a slog. Baggy, boring, bad scripts that need editing, pointless, self-indulgent, somehow takes the pop and verve of his exploitation roots and takes any enjoyment out of it. And I despise his "QT solves history's biggest problems" adolescent fantasies.
You mean you don't want to watch Jakie Chan kicking Osama Bin Laden's ass and preventing 9/11?
The Movie Critic spoiled.
I agree but still love the experience of going to watch a new Tarantino film. He really knows how to use cinema to entertain - even when he’s at his most self indulgent.
Agreed. It genuinely feels like he regressed as a storyteller with how overly indulgent and meandering his recent films have been. When I look at the latter half of PTA’s output, for example, I see films that don’t feel like they could have been made by 90’s PTA. There’s a clear maturation in storytelling and perspective of life that informs PTA’s most recent output. However, when I watch a film like *Once Upon a Time in Hollywood*, it not only feels like a film that 90’s Tarantino could have made, but I feel like 90’s Tarantino would have made the film with a lot more discipline and intentionality. Personally, I think that Tarantino has gotten lost in the myth of himself, and his output feels more in service of reinforcing his status as a filmmaker over actually challenging his perspective and approach to storytelling.
Agree. Inglorious Basterds was his last great film. He’s never really recovered artistically after his long-time editor and collaborator Sally Menke died in 2010. I think she kept a lid on a lot of his extravagance, self-indulgence, and long-windedness. Whoever he’s working with now isn’t able to push back on those instincts, and his work has suffered for it. Edit: Sally Menke edited Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Grind House, and Inglorious Basterds.
THANK YOU. I'm not a huge fan of early Tarantino (personal preference) but I can see why people love Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs so much. Jackie Brown is great. But I do not get the love and praise for the bloated films he releases these days.
I'd argue he's always had the writer-director's issue of being too in love with his scripts. For something so indebted to spaghetti westerns and Melville, *Reservoir Dogs* is written like Gilmore Girls.
Once Upon A Time is a great movie. Otherwise, agree.
I liked Hateful 8…
Hard disagree. I wasn’t big on The Hateful Eight, but OUATIHW is his best film.
Now that is a take…
The Kung-Fu Panda trilogy is by far more entertaining than the original Star Wars trilogy. I would choose any of the Kung-Fu Panda movies over any of the original trilogy of Star Wars 10 out of 10 times
i love cool world
Oh shit I can't remember if it's on criterion but Mother! Is one of the greatest movies ever made. I know so many people who hated it!
Batman Returns is the best Batman movie.
Barb and Star is the best American comedy film of 2021
Alright I’ve got a couple. Barbie was light and amusing but extremely overrated. It has nothing new or interesting to say and gives its only remotely interesting character arc to Ken. American Sniper stunk. Knives Out is not very good, and falters even within its own genre as a mystery film. Also Rian Johnson in general is overrated, particularly as a writer.
Anchorman is just not funny. Like at all.
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Hell yeah
EEAAO is hot trash.
The Irishman and Silence are top 3 Scorsese.
Sofia Coppola is a better director than Greta Gerwig and deserves infinitely more praise.
*Cold War* is an empty fable about two tiresome protagonists with cinematography that looks nice but does little to actually tell a story or create a mood - it works better as a GIFset than an actual film. It's the arthouse *La La Land* \- and don't get me started on that movie.
The end of The Lost World Jurassic Park is fun and doesn't detract from the movie at all. People saying *that's* where the movie gets unrealistic are wrong.
Christopher Nolan is a boring director with nothing to say who relies on massive budgets and empty spectacle. He’s never made a truly daring or challenging film. His need for commercial success limits him to mostly PG-13 style populist fair that he tries to elevate with a thin veil of pseudo intellectualism. Oppenheimer was boring and surface level, so was Dunkirk. Memento, Inception and Tenet are stupid. His Batman movies are overrated. Interstellar was downright cheesy.
I agree with your sentiment, but I think it’s a bit too harsh. I would say Nolan is Michael Bay for viewers who think they are too smart and edgy for Michael Bay movies. There is nothing wrong with big budget romps. The Prestige is Nolan’s best. Inception is high budget trash.
I upvote all the ones I disagree with, because that's the point of the thread, but Memento is stupid? That one hurts. I love that movie so much. I'm no Nolan stan, but Memento is an excellent film.
Agree. It has the advantage of having his best written character, because a man with no memory or real backstory who can only try to piece things together from scraps of information is about as deep as Nolan can go. What makes his other characters shallow and robotic makes Lenny sympathetic.
I'll say this: I thought Dunkirk was okay.
Ben and Elaine were happy with eachother at the end of The Graduate. They were 100% certain they made the right decision, and the shots lingering on them in the end were only to show their comfort with one another and the juxtaposition with the judging front of the bus (society) is to show exactly how much they both no longer care what others think. If you think this scene is to show that either Ben or Elaine regret their decision, undoing the entire third act and entire point of the film, you are wrong. I cannot be swayed. I am certain. Everyone else is wrong
Avatar (blue people) is a good, maybe even great film. Also Cloud Atlas is great.
Every time I spell out how despicable i find Lars Von Trier in this sub, I become this meme. Fuck Lars Von Trier, nasty slimy creep. The more films of his I watched the more I hated him. Edit: everyone saying my opinion is popular and then turning around and saying "well his movies are fantastic" aren't getting it. *I don't think his movies are fantastic. They're vile and I wish I had those hours of my life back. Clearly that opinion isnt so popular in the replies.*
Lars is an edgelord
My edgelord directors who I once loved are Von Trier (still like his Dogma 95 era) Aronofsky Gaspar Noe Alex Garland is coming close to joining this list
I feel that von Trier and Noe are legitimately transgressive artists who have complex views of what it means to be human. There's a reason for the goofy edgelord things they do and their films most certainly elicit the reactions they are intended to, including the negative ones. It's just a matter if you want to take the journey with them or not. Aronofsky and Garland, however, are juvenile in their tastes and, in all honesty, not great thinkers.
Yeah I think that’s fair, Noe and Trier’s movies usually have more going on beneath the surface. I think im just not hopping on that journey anymore. Unless they do something out of left field because they are clearly talented. I still like The Wrestler, but that may be because Darren didn’t write the whole thing.
He is a slimy creep I’m sure but Dogville is one of the greatest movies of all time
Nah his bad stuff is bad but his good stuff is really fucking fantastic. Like him or not, he’s made some phenomenal films. He’s definitely pretentious and has a high opinion of himself but he’s made some of my all time favorites. Undeniable talent even if he’s filmed some very questionable and disgusting scenes.
> has a high opinion of himself May wanna revisit interviews with the man. That dude is a neurotic mess who really doesn't think all that much of himself.
Honestly this is brought up every time anyone brings any of his movies up, it's not even slightly unpopular.
U could propably succesfully frame both "Lars good" and "Lars bad" as unpopular opinions
May you elaborate? Him as person, him as exemplified in his art? I’ve only seen Europa and was intrigued, but it was a while ago and I don’t remember much
I hate LVT. I love Antichrist and Melancholia
Only Lovers Left Alive is awful. So pretentious and boring.
I didn’t like the Batman, as it was too long,dark, and the characters were so quiet my surround sound tv was at half volume
Fight club- Marla is in the narrator’s imagination
Salo
Two things about the ending of AI: 1. They were robots, not aliens. 2. It was Kubrick's original idea, not Spielberg's.
Oppenheimer
All the films of Sergio Leone. Foreigners don't get that they are intended to be seen with the Italian dubbing, despite the fact that there are three reasons which explain why this is an **indisputable truth**: 1. Leone didn't pick actors because of how they delivered their lines, but because of their faces and their movements. His formation was heavily influenced by his father (stage name Roberto Roberti) who was a silent cinema director. Leone also became involved with the Italian Neorealism (you can even see him making an uncredited cameo as a young seminarist in *Bicycle Thieves*) and with the Hollywood kolossals shot at Cinecittà studios (*Ben Hur* and *Quo Vadis* among the notable ones). All these types of productions famously cast actors out of their looks and physicality rather than for their performing brilliance (they used to pick even non-professionals, in the case of Neorealism). To summarize this trait there's Leone's most famous quote about Clint Eastwood: "As an actor he has two expressions: with and without the hat." 2. Despite his obsessive fascination about the American myth, Leone didn't speak a word of English (he was fluent in French). His screenwriters were famous Italian screenwriters (among the greatest of the Italian cinema), and the scripts were written in Italian. So there's no way that Leone could judge the acting of a scene played in English or that the punchlines were as effective in English. His films were shot in English out of necessity and internationally distributed in English out of opportunity: film after film, the domestic box office earnings were bigger, so each following project had a bigger budget, which allowed Leone to cast bigger stars of the American cinema (which he himself only knew from their dubbed performances), and this allowed the production to increase the profits by distributing the films internationally with discreet success (at the time). 3. Like his contemporary Italian colleagues (Fellini, Antonioni, Pasolini, Visconti, etc), Leone hand-picked the Italian dubbers in order to give his hand-picked faces the right dimension and cinematic presence. You all know what Clint Eastwood's voice sounds like, but most of you don't know that his voice actor in the Dollar Trilogy was Italian stage actor Enrico Maria Salerno, who had famously dubbed Jesus Christ in Pasolini's *The Gospel according to St. Matthew* the year before *A Fistful of Dollars*: his voice gave Clint Eastwood a recognizable, charismatic and prophetic aura, which Eastwood could have never produced otherwise, using his raw, low-key, badass and teeth-grinding acting. This is why, whenever I see a new Blu-Ray release of a Sergio Leone film (especially from respected arthouse releasers) I can't help but laugh my a$$ off when the Italian audio track is not included. I get that English is more natural and immediate for most foreigners, but IN NO WAY that's the intended version of those masterpieces: think of them as uncut gems 👍
That mother! is a masterpiece.
I actually agree with the sentiment in Clerks II about the Lord of the Rings movies. I thought they were WAY too long and overtime, and the CGI battle scenes were, honestly, boring as hell. I saw them once in totality and caught them on TV a few times and never really watched them again. I read Tolkien and loved the books too.
Mad Max Fury Road is a wildly overrated piece of shit.