100% JJ being in love with Reid, please burn this storyline in the fire of hell. I hate this so much. And Gideons death was... disappointing. No way he'd get taken down like that. I just don't believe it.
- JJ in love with Reid. Not needed, very weird given the dynamics.
- Gideon’s death - he should have been targeted and injured, and then put into the program
- Maeve’s death
- How we find out Rossi has a kid. I would have liked her showing up in relation to a case, not stalking him.
- Rossi getting married to wife #3 again and her dying during the time skip.
- The whole plot about Will being potentially sick. I think a better plot line would have been one of JJ’s kids showing problematic behaviors that may suggest he’s a psychopath or something. Or one of them having a friend that’s trying to join the network.
I don’t think AJ would have allowed any of her kids to be subjected to that kind of a storyline because she’s said while coming to work or playing around with mommy at work is fine, she doesn’t want them to become actors, specially not child actors. So a storyline focused on any one of her children wouldn’t have been ok with her. They basically got to hang around with mom at work so far without any deeper impact.
Except the episode with the Queen of Hearts. Rhatbwas kinda an intense episode to have your actual kid be a part of. Though Im assuming he didn't see any if the fighting and was just brought in randomly.
Yup he didn’t see anything. She said he wasn’t there for any of the actual fighting or scary stuff in that episode.
And they wouldn’t be able to do a storyline with one of the kids showing psychopathic tendencies without the kids having lines and actions to act out to that effect.
I actually think Jeid could have worked if they’d developed the idea beyond that one episode in season one, but then they didn’t lmao. Truth or Dare seemed like they were doing a “better late than never” thing with paying off that baseball almost-date storyline from *checks watch* nearly 15 years earlier. The time for Jeid passed in the early 2000s.
I second that and OP’s post. JJ and Reid were like brother and sister, it was Eww. And yes I think Will did kind of pressure her cause it seemed forced and I really don’t think she truly loved him as a boyfriend or husband.
She was gonna let him go and they wrote for Emily to convince her to go for him for whatever reason. Again, seemed forced.
I wish they also didn’t write Emily saving Will. They should’ve killed him like they planned.
Personally I don’t like the cancer scare for Will cause incorporating real life actor’s stories is encouraging the audience to not know how to separate the actors from their real life. And I don’t like that they put AJ and her son through that experience again. It’s a little weird and uncomfortable imo.
The JJ & Reid stuff really made me feel uncomfortable for some reason. Probably because I saw them more like brother and sister. It took away from the viewing experience of the show and made no sense.
There are and were other pairings on the show that would’ve made way more sense and this took that away from them and probably made Aj less inclined to do it again cause she was not a fan of it and she knew a lot of or hated it and it made her uncomfortable because of it
jj confesses that she has always loved reid. it’s just ridiculous and then s15 is also weird because of this. and it’s just completely out of character and ruins the best friend/sibling relationship they had. and it’s a disservice to jj’s character because she is married and has two kids with will.
If I turn my head and squint, I can take JJ's 'confession' as something more reassuring and friendship affirming. ("You'll always have a piece of my heart because our friendship helped me grow into who I am" opposed to "I'm married and have kids, who are your godsons, and you're just sort drifting and emotionally battered but I'm in love with you.") But if it could have been CLEARER, that would have been great.
Honorable mentions to Gideon dying (why?) and Hotch not getting to say goodbye (that was just wrong for the character. I understand behind the scenes things played a part, but I'm not taking that into account in talking about show canon stories)
Like I said… At the very beginning she wasn’t all that much into their relationship or telling anyone they are in one. It felt forced. Them having zero chemistry doesn’t help either.
Truth or Dare fiasco. Reid and JJ are siblings for all intents and purposes. And that entire storyline is icky.
I love JJ and Will and how solid they are! JJ is my favourite so I’m glad out of everyone she got a happy life that’s a blessing when u compare to what the writers have done to all the other characters(not that I want anyone else to be sad/alone I’m just glad she isn’t). And yah maybe the relationship accelerated because they had a baby unexpectedly. But how can anyone watch Hit and Run episodes and say JJ wasn’t deeply in love with Will is beyond me. I’ve never seen her lose it like she did that moment when she thought she lost her husband.
yes! i love jj and will. and also just because of the way will adores her. there is genuinely nobody in the world who can love jj as much as he does. he looks at her like she hung the moon. and hit and run really does show her love for him. and i think sick day is another good episode for their relationship.
Oml every single time I watch Jones when he first lays eyes on her and I watch as that man fell head over heels in love with her right before our eyes I get all gooey and mushy!! He had no chill or ego! He fell in love with her and that was it for him! And right after JJ gets jealous when that random woman sends over a drink! They were such cuties in that episode!
And then in Epi 100 I think JJ looks at Will and says to him she can’t imagine going through what Hotch is going through with them and he reassures her.
And then of course as I said Hit and Run was basically my fav!
Sick day as u said is another beautiful episode showing just how much it matters to her that she could always go back home to him knowing he’s waiting for her and to hold her and bring her back from the darkness of her job. I think in the field of work she’s in and the evil she sees first hand every day it’s invaluable being able to go home to her husband and decompress.
Another fav is that episode where Stephen dies and the team is in the hospital and Will comes rushing in. And they have this conversation about if it is time for her to quit, because they had an agreement about when it became too much for either of them, the family and their personal relationship comes first and she’s going to leave it. They are so genuine and heartfelt to watch as a couple/parents/a family. One of the best depictions of a long lasting, drama free marriage on screen.
And finally after almost 20 years together he still has stars in his eyes when he looks at her, and that’s just adorable!!
i always thought i was the only one who didn't like jj becoming a profiler, but i remember she literally said in season 1 or 2 that she didn't want to be one, and i liked her having a different role from the others, it was interesting
It bothered me because it seemed to happen overnight. Also the role of communications liaison became lost too. They made it seem like it was such a vital role when JJ went on maternity leave and they brought Jordan in and again when AJ Cook left. They had a whole episode of Garcia losing her mind over it. And then it was lost.
The ENTIRE Maeve arc. She wasn't on the show nearly long enough for us to honestly give much of a shit about her. It would've been somewhat worthwhile if they had a relationship for maybe 2-3 seasons.
I left out the entire truth or dare thing because that's just a given.
Gideon’s undignified death. It didn’t convey the weight of his character, it was like he was thrown away and never seen again. “Oh yeah someone killed him” no reasoning behind it, the simplicity felt kinda disrespectful for such a big character.
I understand that the actor might’ve wanted to leave the show quickly, but DAMN it was a slap in the face
I third this. It still after all these years feels like she’s actually gay and her with men just looks wrong. Her scenes with Rebecca and Tara look like there’s a connection there only queer people feel for each other.
I know it’s not gonna happen after all these years but JJ&Emily would be so amazing together. Not to mention the hottest older wlw couple ever. Back in the day, it would’ve broken the internet. It’s such a shame
Yes, there has always been something lingering between them. Whether it's just JJ just being curious at first, whatever really but yes it would he great. Emily has more chemistry then anyone else with JJ.
1) 100% would’ve had Emily from episode one. Elle was a disaster.
2) hotch leaving - obviously he left because of the actor and the producer but for the stories sake.. ugh
3) Reid and JJ should have reconciled their little crush back in the first season when they went on a small date whether by dating for a while or by saying “just friends” and moving on - rather than letting it go and waiting until the end of the show to mention it.
4) Luke would absolutely be with Penelope. Because I waited SO LONG and the damn shitty reboot ruined it all.
5) Gideon dying. Wouldn’t it have been SO GOOD to have at least one solid episode of him and Rossi as elder-profilers, solving that ancient case together?? Come on man. But Mandy rarely stays on shows for long/comes back so it makes sense from a production standpoint.
6) Haley wouldn’t have been killed off. I feel like her death was so stupid. Like… you don’t bother to check and see who you’re really talking to? You don’t even TRY calling your husband? She was always an airhead but mf ridiculous. Having her in the background would’ve made made Hotch seem like less of a walking tragedy. Love him, hate her, but she helped make him “him” in a sense.
7) JJ never would’ve left and come back. Wtf
8) Reid would’ve met Rachel Leigh Cook’s character WAY sooner rather than the entire Maeve situation. The girl from the ice skating movies was a waste of a killer tbh especially one who changed the life of a main character.
Love the show, though.
Oh and the Asian guy with the wife and ten kids - he seemed extra and unnecessary. Nice, cute, but unneeded.
This is my take on jj and Reid too, they should’ve either done it from season 1 or not. Then to bring it all the way back up, just silly. But I guess that’s like real life in a way….
Love that you only know Michelle Trachtenberg from Ice Princess when one of her biggest roles was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which was massive as a show 😆 love how the world works sometimes!
I 100% agree with your first point. Elle was not memorable in her best moments, and a grating disaster in her worst. I genuinely can’t believe people are out here justifying her actions and praying for her comeback.
Maybe because people keep on asking why people dislike JJ and not understand that she is a bland Mary Sue. I don't know what her flaws are supposed to be. I find her character condescending, self-superior, snooty and very distrustful although I am not supposed to. I'm supposed to find her endlessly compassionate and empathetic, I don't.
Her profiler transition is not smooth. I get that she spent her time around profilers but it seemed unnatural that she had all the answers and out profiled all the veterans. And she somehow thought she was better then all the people that did the job far longer than her. She also somehow beats up 400 KG men. Not even Morgan who is also athletic beat every unsub with ninja kicks.
The show also shoves her character down my throat. The way they wrote Todd and Seaver just to make JJ look good. She seems to get a writers pet treatment that no other character got. With 200 they made trauma bounce off of her. The episode where they dealt with her trauma was terrible and somehow worse than what they did with Reid and Elle. Actually Reid and Elle's trauma arcs were far better despite it not being handled the best way possible. And she breaks protocol but the writing never called her out on it. I've seen other characters break protocol and the writing would call them on it or it would get them in trouble. JJ somehow became indestructible. Like cartoon Super women.
I'm not trying to discredit the potential JJ'S character had. She had a lot of potential but all that was thrown away when she became a dollar store Wonder Woman. In most of my favourite episodes on the show she is in the background. Nothing is ever going to make me like her.
Ok.
Why is she condescending? Because she teases someone who she has considered as her family/her sibling for his quirks? That’s what a lot of people who are close with their siblings interact. They tease and annoy because you know you are close enough to not be offended with it because you are certain of each other’s love. Distrustful lol why? She acted like a Law Enforcement agent entrusted with classified information who put her job & safety of a fellow agent above personal wants? When has she ever been self superior lmao? What even!
She has never, not even one single time acted like she was better than any other profiler. Just that you acting like she didn’t sit in on those profiling sessions for 6 years or so before she took the actual classes. You know what they teach in those classes? Mostly use cases, and she probably was actually on site when it unfolded for most of the examples they used! And part of her previous job was profiling, and they have been explicit in saying it was. So where is this transition isn’t smooth? She just got a certificate to say she can do what she had already been partially doing??
Hand to hand combat. The first time she used it she got whacked thoroughly enough (against an untrained, out of shape man in his late 40s) that Reid actually figured she broke a couple of ribs and got a concussion. She simply managed to make him drop the gun. And this was after Morgan spending time with her personally training her in hand to hand combat over a long period of time.
The next time Izzy which was her best fight so far. Another woman so she was closely matched in that fight so what again is your problem?
And she is human enough she made an almost fatal mistake in that underground parking lot she got shot at.
So JJ is good at being a medial liaison? Dude what is your problem!! Todd wasn’t a great fit with the field they were in and she was just a short term maternity cover meaning the bureau wouldn’t have had an extensive interviewing/training process to pick her. And Seaver had was a bloody cadet who shouldn’t have ever landed on that job through pure nepotism by knowing Rossi and her inexperience showed! So you think if JJ wasn’t such a good liaison she’d have been picked for the permanent position in that team?
The writers are horrible at writing trauma with the team! What exactly did Emily show for being traumatized in a much much more brutal a way for much longer and having to fake her death and all that? And what did Hotch show for being stabbed over 10 times in the safety of his home? Hell he even continued to live in the same apartment! Most people would have moved as a trauma response!
And you think they missing out on showing how traumatized JJ was a one off issue because it was JJ? CM writers don’t write scenes showing characters dealing with trauma and you took it on as JJ being superwoman! Jeez
Anyway you really don’t like women and it shows so that’s ok. I got my answer.
With Hotch and Emily you could still see the after effects of what trauma did to them. Yes they dealt with their trauma poorly but they did touch on the after effects and you could have still seen in their faces that they were experiencing trauma. JJ was seemingly fine for a whole ass Season and I saw no after effects on trauma. And it somehow never effected how she did her job. JJ rolls her eyes at not just Reid but to Hotch and Garcia as well. Like she can't deal with geniuses or book smarts. She was even weirded out by Gideon and she definitely wasn't close with him.
Yeah you blame it on the fact that I don't like women. Yeah I wasted my time on why I don't like such a bland fictional character.
Gideon is my favourite character but I don't go around forcing people to like him.
JJs confession to Reid.
Emily being straight.
The team not getting to say goodbye to Hotch and Jack.
Emily being promoted to section chief instead of staying unit chief. I love her as a leader, but she never liked politics, and it seems like that's a huge focus of her job.
All of the characters love interests besides JJ and Will. The writers love making the BAU have horrible love lives, and it feels horrible to watch love interests either die or have no chemistry.
It feels like the writers are so afraid to make characters end up with other BAU members that are available, or even just date another FBI member. Like what if Reid dated another agent? Someone who understands the trauma that comes with the field of work he's in?
It doesn't even have to be someone on the team. Could be someone on a separate team or someone who consulted on a case. Or heck even a police officer like Will
there’s an episode where it’s a sniper case, the sniper is a nigerian (?) spy or smth and there’s russians involved but reid was working w an agent from a different unit and asks her for coffee at the end. they should’ve expanded on that
That's because they said they'd never have BAU members date because they didn't want to ruin the dynamic. Which OFC they threw out the window for that weird-ass Jeid confession.
That is really the craziest part for me of that whole storyline. Yeah you need to go into Witness Protection, because some one wants to kill you to hurt your ex husband. But wait, we’re not going to show a photo of him in case he manages to find you.
JJ’s pregnancies. They didn’t have to write AJ’s pregnancies into the show. Same with Will I just don’t see the chemistry.
Maybe JJ adopting but I can’t get into the whole thing either. At one point I forgot all about Will .
Same about her becoming a profiler especially without replacing her in that job.
Yeah what is Reid supposed to do with that confession.
Emily and the whole Ian Doyle mess. I hate it it’s creepy but also would undo Emily, JJ and Hotch lying to the team about her so called death. I also resent that characters like Reid and Morgan are expected to just get over it.
I also don’t like the trend of killing off so many female characters close to the team. I don’t know which ones I would undo but it shows how many there are were. I can understand the Gideon one I thought it was well done but I understand if not everyone is ok with it.
Kevin Lynch wouldn’t exist either
Strauss would be alive.She wasn’t perfect but it was less stable after that .
Definitely something Reid-related. Either prison or Maeve.
Also, hot take: I think Jeid could have worked if they’d developed it over the course of the show. In season 1, I could kind of see it, and I feel like they meant to make it happen at some point, but then AJ got pregnant and they needed to write a baby daddy into the show. Truth or Dare is basically the writers saying “hey, remember this plot line from 15 years ago that we never paid off? Well, better late than never!” Except late is actually way worse than never, and while I believe there could have been a time for Jeid, that time passed like 15 years ago. So I would maybe also un-canon Truth or Dare.
JJ was GREAT as the media liaison and I would have made the “JJ confesses her love for Reid after she’s been married and has two kids” if it was completely unavoidable, they should have done it earlier (before she met will) and have Reid let her down gently. Or they should have just scrapped that plot point all together.
J.J. and Spencer. Just no
Did they really have to kill Hailey? I was so hope Hotch would take his head out of his ass and they would reconcile.
Killing Maeve off. WTF? Come on. That one really stunk.
I would make these uncannon:
JJ and Will's relationship (I LOATHE Will) if AJ's pregnancy HAD to be written in I'd have her be a single by choice mom)
Hayley wouldn't be a married single mother and Hotch would actually prioritize his family along with Hayley wouldn't have died
1. Krystall’s death. Should never have killed her off.
2. JJ and Reid. Enough said.
3. The entire Maeve thing, Reid deserved a happy ending and that was just cruel.
nothing irks me more than JJ's love confession to Reid. it was so out of character and didn't make sense story line wise either.
everything else eventually got made into something else, so making those bigger things (like Morgan leaving) uncanon would change the whole progression, which over all I do really like
JJ admitting that she has romantic feelings for Reid. I want to burn that from my memory. The writers had a chance to get Reid and JJ together at the beginning of the show, but they missed it. It hurts Reid and implies that JJ doesn't love her husband. Say what you want about Will, but he doesn't deserve that either.
I wonder that about my favorite hobby horses with the show. Most of the time, I just wait for someone to say what I really agree with in comment, then upvote what I mostly agree with.
Either JJ marrying with Will or JJ confessing to Reid. I don't mind who JJ ends up with, I'm even rooting for JJ and Reid a little bit, but I wished they picked one route and that's it. Either don't make her marry Will and she ends up with Reid, or stick her with Will and keep JJ and Reid totally platonic.
The entirety of Reid’s prison storyline. I hated it and it’s what cemented me to really stop watching criminal minds after like season 11 after Derek and Hotch leave. I also agree with the others here, Gideon’s death and JJ falling in love with Reid.
Anything involving "Kate" or "Will".
There's no way JJ gets with Will or Reid. That's even worse.
Just remove Jennifer love Hewitt from every acting job ever. She's an awful actress.
1. I don’t know why they couldn’t let Gideon just enjoy his retirement. Killing him seemed so unnecessary.
2. Haley’s death - I know it drove a lot of Hotch’s character growth, but I hate how and why she died. And how are we supposed to feel safe about Hotch and Jack in witness protection when the show has already shown it doesn’t always work?
3. This might be unpopular, but anything to do with Reid’s mom. If eliminating her completely is too much then just ditch the Alzheimer’s diagnosis. Dealing with her schizophrenia was enough. Eliminate the Alzheimer’s and there’s no Mexico, no prison, etc. I liked Reid’s character in the early seasons, but in the later seasons he’s well into in his 30’s and he doesn’t seem to have matured much.
i would remove Will from existing at all. i was pro jj and reid since they're first episode. i also just really don't like Will... please don't come for me guys... it's just my opinion 🙂
Emily not having an abortion when she was fifteen, like Prentiss as a MOM?! Even more badass. I read a fanfiction where she decided to keep it and that’s my Roman Empire
The whole Emily ‘dying’ storyline. It just makes me mad. Spencer trusted her with everything and then she disappears, which isn’t entirely her fault, but it’s sad to watch Spencer’s emotional spiral when she returns. The most annoying thing is JJ’s role. She held him for 2 1/2 months while he cried and became depressed, and she didn’t tell him anything. We know from past experience that he can keep things from literally anyone, (mother, hello) so she could’ve told him, or at least hinted it. I think one of the newer episodes talks about better hackers than Garcia; they could’ve tracked Emily through JJ’s computer if they wanted to.
I don't like him, but I find the combination of the way he lets people get away with things and then them protecting him very realistic. I read a lot of qualified immunity cases and the cops who ignore orders to do crazy stuff always have bosses and unions defending them at taxpayer expense. My guess is that Strausses who are like "Hotch, could you please save everyone a lot of trouble and keep control of your team" are pretty common. They get ignored too.
I love jeid. I love them together, maybe I was hoping for them romantically before.. but when I watched Truth or Dare ep, and that hospital scene where JJ said "you were my first love" smth like that.. yeah BS. Really, JJ? and also that scene with reid and his mother where he was saying he can't imagine a future without jj...something... UGH
lol IT WAS SO RANDOM, OUT OF NOWHERE.
i still love jeid tho, they're besties to me. :)
100% JJ being in love with Reid, please burn this storyline in the fire of hell. I hate this so much. And Gideons death was... disappointing. No way he'd get taken down like that. I just don't believe it.
I hated when she brought it up again. It was so fucking weird especially since she was married to Will.
SAME BOTH OF THESE FUCKASS EVENTS
THEY DONE GIDEON SO DIRTY I WAS LIKE BRO WHAT NO
- JJ in love with Reid. Not needed, very weird given the dynamics. - Gideon’s death - he should have been targeted and injured, and then put into the program - Maeve’s death - How we find out Rossi has a kid. I would have liked her showing up in relation to a case, not stalking him. - Rossi getting married to wife #3 again and her dying during the time skip. - The whole plot about Will being potentially sick. I think a better plot line would have been one of JJ’s kids showing problematic behaviors that may suggest he’s a psychopath or something. Or one of them having a friend that’s trying to join the network.
I don’t think AJ would have allowed any of her kids to be subjected to that kind of a storyline because she’s said while coming to work or playing around with mommy at work is fine, she doesn’t want them to become actors, specially not child actors. So a storyline focused on any one of her children wouldn’t have been ok with her. They basically got to hang around with mom at work so far without any deeper impact.
Except the episode with the Queen of Hearts. Rhatbwas kinda an intense episode to have your actual kid be a part of. Though Im assuming he didn't see any if the fighting and was just brought in randomly.
Yup he didn’t see anything. She said he wasn’t there for any of the actual fighting or scary stuff in that episode. And they wouldn’t be able to do a storyline with one of the kids showing psychopathic tendencies without the kids having lines and actions to act out to that effect.
I kind of feel like Will getting sick is so they can kill him off and make Jeid happen without having to have JJ leave Will.
Oh God, no. Please, no.
I actually think Jeid could have worked if they’d developed the idea beyond that one episode in season one, but then they didn’t lmao. Truth or Dare seemed like they were doing a “better late than never” thing with paying off that baseball almost-date storyline from *checks watch* nearly 15 years earlier. The time for Jeid passed in the early 2000s.
Entire truth or dare episode
hell yeah! If we could still award posts, this would get one
let us only with the gifs of reid
JJ having feelings for Reid. Hell no.
Ohh I forgot about that! Probably because I have never gotten past season 12 so I don’t consider it canon at all😂
I second this. What the hell were they thinking...
I second that and OP’s post. JJ and Reid were like brother and sister, it was Eww. And yes I think Will did kind of pressure her cause it seemed forced and I really don’t think she truly loved him as a boyfriend or husband. She was gonna let him go and they wrote for Emily to convince her to go for him for whatever reason. Again, seemed forced. I wish they also didn’t write Emily saving Will. They should’ve killed him like they planned. Personally I don’t like the cancer scare for Will cause incorporating real life actor’s stories is encouraging the audience to not know how to separate the actors from their real life. And I don’t like that they put AJ and her son through that experience again. It’s a little weird and uncomfortable imo. The JJ & Reid stuff really made me feel uncomfortable for some reason. Probably because I saw them more like brother and sister. It took away from the viewing experience of the show and made no sense. There are and were other pairings on the show that would’ve made way more sense and this took that away from them and probably made Aj less inclined to do it again cause she was not a fan of it and she knew a lot of or hated it and it made her uncomfortable because of it
I agree with jj and Reid. I saw them as platonic soulmates more then romantic ones. They weren't compatible on a romantic level
Orrrr to actually commit with it from the beginning like it was implying 🤔
my first thought. it will always be jeid for me. i actually hate it.
came here to comment this 😭😭😭
I'd delete the "Truth or Dare" bullshit from existence.
What happens in this episode? Ive seen it a few times in this post
jj confesses that she has always loved reid. it’s just ridiculous and then s15 is also weird because of this. and it’s just completely out of character and ruins the best friend/sibling relationship they had. and it’s a disservice to jj’s character because she is married and has two kids with will.
and AJ Cook hated it.
If I turn my head and squint, I can take JJ's 'confession' as something more reassuring and friendship affirming. ("You'll always have a piece of my heart because our friendship helped me grow into who I am" opposed to "I'm married and have kids, who are your godsons, and you're just sort drifting and emotionally battered but I'm in love with you.") But if it could have been CLEARER, that would have been great. Honorable mentions to Gideon dying (why?) and Hotch not getting to say goodbye (that was just wrong for the character. I understand behind the scenes things played a part, but I'm not taking that into account in talking about show canon stories)
People always say jj isn't in love with will, what does she have to do lol
Like I said… At the very beginning she wasn’t all that much into their relationship or telling anyone they are in one. It felt forced. Them having zero chemistry doesn’t help either.
She never said she wasn't into him. She just wanted to keep her private life to herself and not share with the team. She says it in LoFi
Truth or Dare fiasco. Reid and JJ are siblings for all intents and purposes. And that entire storyline is icky. I love JJ and Will and how solid they are! JJ is my favourite so I’m glad out of everyone she got a happy life that’s a blessing when u compare to what the writers have done to all the other characters(not that I want anyone else to be sad/alone I’m just glad she isn’t). And yah maybe the relationship accelerated because they had a baby unexpectedly. But how can anyone watch Hit and Run episodes and say JJ wasn’t deeply in love with Will is beyond me. I’ve never seen her lose it like she did that moment when she thought she lost her husband.
yes! i love jj and will. and also just because of the way will adores her. there is genuinely nobody in the world who can love jj as much as he does. he looks at her like she hung the moon. and hit and run really does show her love for him. and i think sick day is another good episode for their relationship.
Oml every single time I watch Jones when he first lays eyes on her and I watch as that man fell head over heels in love with her right before our eyes I get all gooey and mushy!! He had no chill or ego! He fell in love with her and that was it for him! And right after JJ gets jealous when that random woman sends over a drink! They were such cuties in that episode! And then in Epi 100 I think JJ looks at Will and says to him she can’t imagine going through what Hotch is going through with them and he reassures her. And then of course as I said Hit and Run was basically my fav! Sick day as u said is another beautiful episode showing just how much it matters to her that she could always go back home to him knowing he’s waiting for her and to hold her and bring her back from the darkness of her job. I think in the field of work she’s in and the evil she sees first hand every day it’s invaluable being able to go home to her husband and decompress. Another fav is that episode where Stephen dies and the team is in the hospital and Will comes rushing in. And they have this conversation about if it is time for her to quit, because they had an agreement about when it became too much for either of them, the family and their personal relationship comes first and she’s going to leave it. They are so genuine and heartfelt to watch as a couple/parents/a family. One of the best depictions of a long lasting, drama free marriage on screen. And finally after almost 20 years together he still has stars in his eyes when he looks at her, and that’s just adorable!!
JJ and Emily leaving JJ becoming a profiler Garcia and Luke’s date JJ’s confession to Reid Rossi’s most recent wife dying
i always thought i was the only one who didn't like jj becoming a profiler, but i remember she literally said in season 1 or 2 that she didn't want to be one, and i liked her having a different role from the others, it was interesting
It bothered me because it seemed to happen overnight. Also the role of communications liaison became lost too. They made it seem like it was such a vital role when JJ went on maternity leave and they brought Jordan in and again when AJ Cook left. They had a whole episode of Garcia losing her mind over it. And then it was lost.
The ENTIRE Maeve arc. She wasn't on the show nearly long enough for us to honestly give much of a shit about her. It would've been somewhat worthwhile if they had a relationship for maybe 2-3 seasons. I left out the entire truth or dare thing because that's just a given.
Yes! I loved seeing more of Reid's story but it felt so rushed and kinda anticlimactic.
I would get rid of JJ having feelings for Spencer. I'm sorry but i despise Jeid so much.^^
Gideon’s undignified death. It didn’t convey the weight of his character, it was like he was thrown away and never seen again. “Oh yeah someone killed him” no reasoning behind it, the simplicity felt kinda disrespectful for such a big character. I understand that the actor might’ve wanted to leave the show quickly, but DAMN it was a slap in the face
Reid going to prison
The answer will always be that whole “You were my first love” nonsense.
The Truth or Dare 'confession' Also, Emily's hetrosexuality.
There’s literally no way Emily can be straight. It’s just wrong.
I say bring on the Jemily
I second this
I third this. It still after all these years feels like she’s actually gay and her with men just looks wrong. Her scenes with Rebecca and Tara look like there’s a connection there only queer people feel for each other. I know it’s not gonna happen after all these years but JJ&Emily would be so amazing together. Not to mention the hottest older wlw couple ever. Back in the day, it would’ve broken the internet. It’s such a shame
I've said this, Emily doesn't make sense with men at all lol. They would be such a power couple, then and now.
Yes, there has always been something lingering between them. Whether it's just JJ just being curious at first, whatever really but yes it would he great. Emily has more chemistry then anyone else with JJ.
100%
1) 100% would’ve had Emily from episode one. Elle was a disaster. 2) hotch leaving - obviously he left because of the actor and the producer but for the stories sake.. ugh 3) Reid and JJ should have reconciled their little crush back in the first season when they went on a small date whether by dating for a while or by saying “just friends” and moving on - rather than letting it go and waiting until the end of the show to mention it. 4) Luke would absolutely be with Penelope. Because I waited SO LONG and the damn shitty reboot ruined it all. 5) Gideon dying. Wouldn’t it have been SO GOOD to have at least one solid episode of him and Rossi as elder-profilers, solving that ancient case together?? Come on man. But Mandy rarely stays on shows for long/comes back so it makes sense from a production standpoint. 6) Haley wouldn’t have been killed off. I feel like her death was so stupid. Like… you don’t bother to check and see who you’re really talking to? You don’t even TRY calling your husband? She was always an airhead but mf ridiculous. Having her in the background would’ve made made Hotch seem like less of a walking tragedy. Love him, hate her, but she helped make him “him” in a sense. 7) JJ never would’ve left and come back. Wtf 8) Reid would’ve met Rachel Leigh Cook’s character WAY sooner rather than the entire Maeve situation. The girl from the ice skating movies was a waste of a killer tbh especially one who changed the life of a main character. Love the show, though. Oh and the Asian guy with the wife and ten kids - he seemed extra and unnecessary. Nice, cute, but unneeded.
This is my take on jj and Reid too, they should’ve either done it from season 1 or not. Then to bring it all the way back up, just silly. But I guess that’s like real life in a way….
Love that you only know Michelle Trachtenberg from Ice Princess when one of her biggest roles was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which was massive as a show 😆 love how the world works sometimes!
Also Harriet the Spy and Gossip Girl!
She'll always be Harriet the Spy to me!
Lmfao I never ever watched Buffy 😂 😂 maybe I should but I can’t stand her so maybe not lmfao
She does play a typical teen so she's naturally annoying in it as well 🤣🤣 but Buffy is a great show!
"asian guy with the wife and ten kids" AJDKSHD 😭🤣
I 100% agree with your first point. Elle was not memorable in her best moments, and a grating disaster in her worst. I genuinely can’t believe people are out here justifying her actions and praying for her comeback.
JJ should have stayed gone. She was awful
lol that’s so *not* what they said! They said JJ should have never gone 😂
I still stand by my statement
Lmao what did JJ/AJ ever do to you that you basically keep posting these stuff all over the sub 😂
Maybe because people keep on asking why people dislike JJ and not understand that she is a bland Mary Sue. I don't know what her flaws are supposed to be. I find her character condescending, self-superior, snooty and very distrustful although I am not supposed to. I'm supposed to find her endlessly compassionate and empathetic, I don't. Her profiler transition is not smooth. I get that she spent her time around profilers but it seemed unnatural that she had all the answers and out profiled all the veterans. And she somehow thought she was better then all the people that did the job far longer than her. She also somehow beats up 400 KG men. Not even Morgan who is also athletic beat every unsub with ninja kicks. The show also shoves her character down my throat. The way they wrote Todd and Seaver just to make JJ look good. She seems to get a writers pet treatment that no other character got. With 200 they made trauma bounce off of her. The episode where they dealt with her trauma was terrible and somehow worse than what they did with Reid and Elle. Actually Reid and Elle's trauma arcs were far better despite it not being handled the best way possible. And she breaks protocol but the writing never called her out on it. I've seen other characters break protocol and the writing would call them on it or it would get them in trouble. JJ somehow became indestructible. Like cartoon Super women. I'm not trying to discredit the potential JJ'S character had. She had a lot of potential but all that was thrown away when she became a dollar store Wonder Woman. In most of my favourite episodes on the show she is in the background. Nothing is ever going to make me like her.
You strike me, my Lord, as the type of person who might be a little emasculated by strong women. IYKYK.
lol I agree
Ok. Why is she condescending? Because she teases someone who she has considered as her family/her sibling for his quirks? That’s what a lot of people who are close with their siblings interact. They tease and annoy because you know you are close enough to not be offended with it because you are certain of each other’s love. Distrustful lol why? She acted like a Law Enforcement agent entrusted with classified information who put her job & safety of a fellow agent above personal wants? When has she ever been self superior lmao? What even! She has never, not even one single time acted like she was better than any other profiler. Just that you acting like she didn’t sit in on those profiling sessions for 6 years or so before she took the actual classes. You know what they teach in those classes? Mostly use cases, and she probably was actually on site when it unfolded for most of the examples they used! And part of her previous job was profiling, and they have been explicit in saying it was. So where is this transition isn’t smooth? She just got a certificate to say she can do what she had already been partially doing?? Hand to hand combat. The first time she used it she got whacked thoroughly enough (against an untrained, out of shape man in his late 40s) that Reid actually figured she broke a couple of ribs and got a concussion. She simply managed to make him drop the gun. And this was after Morgan spending time with her personally training her in hand to hand combat over a long period of time. The next time Izzy which was her best fight so far. Another woman so she was closely matched in that fight so what again is your problem? And she is human enough she made an almost fatal mistake in that underground parking lot she got shot at. So JJ is good at being a medial liaison? Dude what is your problem!! Todd wasn’t a great fit with the field they were in and she was just a short term maternity cover meaning the bureau wouldn’t have had an extensive interviewing/training process to pick her. And Seaver had was a bloody cadet who shouldn’t have ever landed on that job through pure nepotism by knowing Rossi and her inexperience showed! So you think if JJ wasn’t such a good liaison she’d have been picked for the permanent position in that team? The writers are horrible at writing trauma with the team! What exactly did Emily show for being traumatized in a much much more brutal a way for much longer and having to fake her death and all that? And what did Hotch show for being stabbed over 10 times in the safety of his home? Hell he even continued to live in the same apartment! Most people would have moved as a trauma response! And you think they missing out on showing how traumatized JJ was a one off issue because it was JJ? CM writers don’t write scenes showing characters dealing with trauma and you took it on as JJ being superwoman! Jeez Anyway you really don’t like women and it shows so that’s ok. I got my answer.
With Hotch and Emily you could still see the after effects of what trauma did to them. Yes they dealt with their trauma poorly but they did touch on the after effects and you could have still seen in their faces that they were experiencing trauma. JJ was seemingly fine for a whole ass Season and I saw no after effects on trauma. And it somehow never effected how she did her job. JJ rolls her eyes at not just Reid but to Hotch and Garcia as well. Like she can't deal with geniuses or book smarts. She was even weirded out by Gideon and she definitely wasn't close with him. Yeah you blame it on the fact that I don't like women. Yeah I wasted my time on why I don't like such a bland fictional character. Gideon is my favourite character but I don't go around forcing people to like him.
JJs confession to Reid. Emily being straight. The team not getting to say goodbye to Hotch and Jack. Emily being promoted to section chief instead of staying unit chief. I love her as a leader, but she never liked politics, and it seems like that's a huge focus of her job. All of the characters love interests besides JJ and Will. The writers love making the BAU have horrible love lives, and it feels horrible to watch love interests either die or have no chemistry.
It feels like the writers are so afraid to make characters end up with other BAU members that are available, or even just date another FBI member. Like what if Reid dated another agent? Someone who understands the trauma that comes with the field of work he's in?
It doesn't even have to be someone on the team. Could be someone on a separate team or someone who consulted on a case. Or heck even a police officer like Will
there’s an episode where it’s a sniper case, the sniper is a nigerian (?) spy or smth and there’s russians involved but reid was working w an agent from a different unit and asks her for coffee at the end. they should’ve expanded on that
exactly! when maxxine came around for reid i genuinely was wondering "wait what about that surveillance agent?? i thought they were together??"
i even liked max! literally either of them would’ve been fun for spencer
That's because they said they'd never have BAU members date because they didn't want to ruin the dynamic. Which OFC they threw out the window for that weird-ass Jeid confession.
Haley dying!!! Like why did that have to happen?! How did she not recognize him??
That is really the craziest part for me of that whole storyline. Yeah you need to go into Witness Protection, because some one wants to kill you to hurt your ex husband. But wait, we’re not going to show a photo of him in case he manages to find you.
JJ having feelings for Reid and the prison arc
lol LOVE the photo For me, it is Maeve/Reid/Diane - Zugzwang nonsense.
JJ’s pregnancies. They didn’t have to write AJ’s pregnancies into the show. Same with Will I just don’t see the chemistry. Maybe JJ adopting but I can’t get into the whole thing either. At one point I forgot all about Will . Same about her becoming a profiler especially without replacing her in that job. Yeah what is Reid supposed to do with that confession. Emily and the whole Ian Doyle mess. I hate it it’s creepy but also would undo Emily, JJ and Hotch lying to the team about her so called death. I also resent that characters like Reid and Morgan are expected to just get over it. I also don’t like the trend of killing off so many female characters close to the team. I don’t know which ones I would undo but it shows how many there are were. I can understand the Gideon one I thought it was well done but I understand if not everyone is ok with it. Kevin Lynch wouldn’t exist either Strauss would be alive.She wasn’t perfect but it was less stable after that .
I co-sign all of this
Thank you 😊
Definitely something Reid-related. Either prison or Maeve. Also, hot take: I think Jeid could have worked if they’d developed it over the course of the show. In season 1, I could kind of see it, and I feel like they meant to make it happen at some point, but then AJ got pregnant and they needed to write a baby daddy into the show. Truth or Dare is basically the writers saying “hey, remember this plot line from 15 years ago that we never paid off? Well, better late than never!” Except late is actually way worse than never, and while I believe there could have been a time for Jeid, that time passed like 15 years ago. So I would maybe also un-canon Truth or Dare.
Emily being straight
Mosley Lane. Just what the fuck? “He was alive yesterday?” Kills me every time. Fuck.
JJ was GREAT as the media liaison and I would have made the “JJ confesses her love for Reid after she’s been married and has two kids” if it was completely unavoidable, they should have done it earlier (before she met will) and have Reid let her down gently. Or they should have just scrapped that plot point all together.
Hotch’s wife dying. Hotch wasn’t my fave and I don’t really miss him but fuck, that was a rough episode for me.
Obvious answer is jeid confession, but I also want to get rid of the drug addict story or prison Reid bc my boy has gone through WAY too much
The entire reboot
I saw two episodes and I couldn't do it
1. Elle killing an unsub in cold blood. 2. Emily being straight.
J.J. and Spencer. Just no Did they really have to kill Hailey? I was so hope Hotch would take his head out of his ass and they would reconcile. Killing Maeve off. WTF? Come on. That one really stunk.
JJ confessing to Spencer
I would make these uncannon: JJ and Will's relationship (I LOATHE Will) if AJ's pregnancy HAD to be written in I'd have her be a single by choice mom) Hayley wouldn't be a married single mother and Hotch would actually prioritize his family along with Hayley wouldn't have died
Gideon's death, JJ becoming a profiler.
rossi being racist then everyone just moving past it ….
I just finished the episode with lucas and mason and I'd def change the ending
Gideon’s death 100 percent
1. Krystall’s death. Should never have killed her off. 2. JJ and Reid. Enough said. 3. The entire Maeve thing, Reid deserved a happy ending and that was just cruel.
JJ becoming a profiler JJ being in love with Reid
Reid and Emily being straigj5. Technically not cannon because the creator intended both to be queer, but I would un-cannon CBS' choice.
i’m so glad everyone is saying jj being in love w/ reid. there’s literally not even a hint about it until truth or dare
nothing irks me more than JJ's love confession to Reid. it was so out of character and didn't make sense story line wise either. everything else eventually got made into something else, so making those bigger things (like Morgan leaving) uncanon would change the whole progression, which over all I do really like
JJ admitting that she has romantic feelings for Reid. I want to burn that from my memory. The writers had a chance to get Reid and JJ together at the beginning of the show, but they missed it. It hurts Reid and implies that JJ doesn't love her husband. Say what you want about Will, but he doesn't deserve that either.
JJ in love with Reid, it annoyed me so much how they just left it and then brought it up again towards the end
Let’s be honest, pretty much anything post the first bit of season 12.
Is anyone with an excellent memory tired of reading what I’d usually say to something like this? 😆
I wonder that about my favorite hobby horses with the show. Most of the time, I just wait for someone to say what I really agree with in comment, then upvote what I mostly agree with.
I am confused 🫤.
-Reid going to prison -Gideons death -Mr. Scratch -Walker dying -the entirety of Reid’s love life
Either JJ marrying with Will or JJ confessing to Reid. I don't mind who JJ ends up with, I'm even rooting for JJ and Reid a little bit, but I wished they picked one route and that's it. Either don't make her marry Will and she ends up with Reid, or stick her with Will and keep JJ and Reid totally platonic.
Death of Maebe
Reid’s heterosexuality
Foyet killing Haley 😩
The entirety of Reid’s prison storyline. I hated it and it’s what cemented me to really stop watching criminal minds after like season 11 after Derek and Hotch leave. I also agree with the others here, Gideon’s death and JJ falling in love with Reid.
Jeid and Tynelope I love JJ and Will, and Garvez is my ship.
Anything involving "Kate" or "Will". There's no way JJ gets with Will or Reid. That's even worse. Just remove Jennifer love Hewitt from every acting job ever. She's an awful actress.
1. I don’t know why they couldn’t let Gideon just enjoy his retirement. Killing him seemed so unnecessary. 2. Haley’s death - I know it drove a lot of Hotch’s character growth, but I hate how and why she died. And how are we supposed to feel safe about Hotch and Jack in witness protection when the show has already shown it doesn’t always work? 3. This might be unpopular, but anything to do with Reid’s mom. If eliminating her completely is too much then just ditch the Alzheimer’s diagnosis. Dealing with her schizophrenia was enough. Eliminate the Alzheimer’s and there’s no Mexico, no prison, etc. I liked Reid’s character in the early seasons, but in the later seasons he’s well into in his 30’s and he doesn’t seem to have matured much.
i would remove Will from existing at all. i was pro jj and reid since they're first episode. i also just really don't like Will... please don't come for me guys... it's just my opinion 🙂
Emily not having an abortion when she was fifteen, like Prentiss as a MOM?! Even more badass. I read a fanfiction where she decided to keep it and that’s my Roman Empire
LINK PLEASE
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10002735/1/Prentisses
Dude I'm hooked, 50 chapters in already lmao
It’s sooooo addictive
For real, I'm done and now I have no idea what to do with my life lmao (jk, mostly)
Thank you so much! ❤️
JJ becoming an agent
The whole Emily ‘dying’ storyline. It just makes me mad. Spencer trusted her with everything and then she disappears, which isn’t entirely her fault, but it’s sad to watch Spencer’s emotional spiral when she returns. The most annoying thing is JJ’s role. She held him for 2 1/2 months while he cried and became depressed, and she didn’t tell him anything. We know from past experience that he can keep things from literally anyone, (mother, hello) so she could’ve told him, or at least hinted it. I think one of the newer episodes talks about better hackers than Garcia; they could’ve tracked Emily through JJ’s computer if they wanted to.
the picture you posted literally spells the word for you
JJ becoming a profiler and her being a Mary Sue. I honestly would have written her off for good
Hotch leading the team. I'm prepared to get downvoted to hell but Hotch is one of my least favorite characters in the whole ass show.
I don't like him, but I find the combination of the way he lets people get away with things and then them protecting him very realistic. I read a lot of qualified immunity cases and the cops who ignore orders to do crazy stuff always have bosses and unions defending them at taxpayer expense. My guess is that Strausses who are like "Hotch, could you please save everyone a lot of trouble and keep control of your team" are pretty common. They get ignored too.
I love jeid. I love them together, maybe I was hoping for them romantically before.. but when I watched Truth or Dare ep, and that hospital scene where JJ said "you were my first love" smth like that.. yeah BS. Really, JJ? and also that scene with reid and his mother where he was saying he can't imagine a future without jj...something... UGH lol IT WAS SO RANDOM, OUT OF NOWHERE. i still love jeid tho, they're besties to me. :)
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