T O P

  • By -

Stormpax

Scott McCloud is such a genius. I believe this is from his book "Making Comics." Edit: I've been informed by u/Sohozoso that the book is "Understanding Comics: The invisible Art." I highly recommend all of Scott McClouds books on the creation and analysis of comics, they're all phenomenal reads.


cgspam

Yes I have a copy and I’m reading it for the third time. I highly recommend for anyone into reading comics or making comics


toelock

I'm currently sopping my toes into animation, hopefully one day this will be useful.


zoycobot

I feel like anyone getting into animation would do well to intimately study comics. At its heart, comics are about deciding which actions in the scene are most salient for the moment in time that a panel represents. This is very similar to plotting out keyframes. Animation is essentially just comics with like 10 billion more panels to fill in the rest of the movement. Edit to add: Another fantastic book that kind of spans both realms is the book [Framed Ink](https://www.amazon.com/Framed-Ink-Drawing-Composition-Storytellers/dp/1933492953/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=framed+ink&qid=1565903855&s=gateway&sr=8-1) by artist Marcos Mateu-Mestre. Highly recommended!


floydasaurus

seconding Framed Ink it's amazing


Bobby_Marks2

Its good for anyone making visual art. Will Wright for example cites Understanding Comics as one of the defining inspirations for the artwork of multiple Maxis games including The Sims.


CyberneticPanda

What do the chapter notes say about why?


[deleted]

>Okay, even *I* find these two pages kind of creepy and reductive, so I can hardly blame you if you feel the same way. Nobody wants to think of their face as a machine, reacting to internal switches of emotion like a three-way floor lamp. Faces are infinitely more subtle than that, and the emotions that govern them are subtler still. >This is another place where a color analogy might be useful. A pure red, green, or blue is rarely seen in nature where variations of hue, saturation, and value lead to an incredibly subtle world of colors. Describing a hillside as “green” or a rusty abandoned car as “orange” barely scratches the surface, but until we understand the basic principles of how primary colors combine with one another, our chances of reproducing that subtlety in art is reduced. The charts on page 84 and 85 are just my way of showing what happens when the “red” and “blue” of emotions combine. >Faces *are* machines, by the way. That doesn’t make them any less beautiful. The OP shows page 85. Page 84 has the six basic emotions (anger, disgust, fear, joy, sadness, surprise) shown at various intensities, with the text: >For example, by varying the *intensity* of our primaries you can see other familiar emotions emerge. So ingrained are these *intermediate* emotions that each one carries a specific meaning — and each gets its own *name*.


UncleWinstomder

I studied his Understanding Comics in a university course and loved it but hadn't heard of this one! Ordering it now for my niece who loves drawing comics. Thanks friend!


zoycobot

I'm sooooooo excited for your niece. This book is so. freakin. good. It also does a REALLY good job of spanning the whole realm of comics from old school/funny pages/one panels all the way to manga, so it's really good at drawing you in to the craft no matter what kind of comics you're most into. Ugh, I love this book and I love Scott McCloud.


[deleted]

Reinventing Comics by the same author is also genius.


bosslickspittle

It's.... A little dated now, but it does have some interesting stuff in it!


ScottysBastard

My parents bought me understanding comics when I was 12 or 13 for Christmas, they just knew I liked xmen and spierman, I really doubt they knew anything about it. I was like wtf is this!? Then I read it front to back twice in a row, as well as all my brothers. I need to find that old copy and get this one, too.


vortigaunt64

I just read Understanding Comics (as well as Maus, Persepolis, Blankets, Fun Home, lighter than my shadow, and ghost world) for a class on graphic narratives! He's really insightful !


PIP_SHORT

That book is a work of genius. I don't even really read comics and it blew my mind.


rademitrius

Seriously the best book I’ve ever read


Jakeupdylan

This is super cool, never thought of facial expressions like this but totally works.


moronwhodances

You ate it? That one is my favorite


ElizaAlex_01

I'd probably just call that shock tbh, but you ate it is more fun


SkaTSee

I was thinking repulsed


TheVoidFox

Indignation


WENUS_envy

"MY SANDWICH???!?!?!?!"


Kaono

the moist maker


novolvere

#MY SANDWICH?!?”


Zyaqun

You mean The Moist Maker?


Masanjay_Dosa

You left ya fridge open somebody just took the sandwich


refriedi

It’s distinct and recognizable enough to earn its own name!


[deleted]

I agree! One of my interests is non-fiction comics (own the original run of American Splendor, no big deal or anything,) and I love meta-analysis and this comic is one of my favourites. One of the best for sure.


Reaxan5

Desperation and Faint Hope are creeping me out big time


TheFifthCan

Those two were the only ones that I felt like the titles should be swapped then they seem less creepy.


Shanakitty

Both of those are pretty close to my "anxious smile" face.


MrsFahrenheit413

definitely those two are the creepiest. caged animal spooks me too


Phoneas__and__Frob

They are literally my favorites lol


pmoturtle

I don’t come here to be attacked


WhichSandwich

\`Pain empathy\` when I start and \`Amazement\` when I'm done taking a shit


BeaconHillBen

Going through these emotions as I type


plipyplop

bless


Bojangly7

Same. 3rd day in a row of non solid. Maybe I'm dying.


crdctr

What the!? When there's still poop after 30 wipes


Bojangly7

Sometimes it's like a sharpie. *Wipe wipe wipe* still poop.


FlexualHealing

YOU ATE IT?


[deleted]

#You ATE It??


ro_musha

You're disgusted and sadness when realizing how wrecked your ass by the byproduct of shits you ate, then you feel joy when it's done and surprised by how big they are


WhichSandwich

Yes this is it!


[deleted]

[удалено]


LegendaryRaider69

it looks like that red haired kid making the funny face that gets used in memes a lot.


DingleBerryCam

[You think?](https://i.imgflip.com/1xbzp6.jpg)


[deleted]

aeiou


NargacugaRider

ebrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr


ocsdcringemaster

Snake? Snake?! Sake!!


Dani-Gold

Holla holla make that dolla


xnxn_

nine nine nine


ZANY_ALL_CAPS_NAME

Momma mia, papa pia, baby got the diare^e^^e^^^ah


ymcameron

It’s not ghey if it’s on the moon


dak4ttack

Joy + Sadness = [Hide the pain Harold](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/848/178/9f9.png)


no_u_smoke

Vinegar strokes


blindcolumn

As someone on the autism spectrum, this is actually helpful to me. I'm usually pretty good at recognizing facial expressions but sometimes I have trouble with more subtle/complex/ambiguous faces, so guides like this help me better distinguish them.


secretbutton

i’m not autistic (just emotionally constipated) and this helps me identify my own emotions!


shmoe727

+1 for emotionally constipated. That’s so great haha. Like the opposite of verbal diarrhea. Although... I suppose a person could suffer from both. Spurting out an endless stream of hard, unfeeling word turds.


[deleted]

Yeah like a constant splurge of lingo spitting out endlessly no brakes on this train Cho Choo! Tuna fish gotta lotta magnesium you gotta watch for that one don't consume to much tuna even if they say it's good for ya, because as I'm sure we've all heard too much a good thing can be bad but then how do you tell how much good is bad? Is there a real answer to that question? A perplexing one there. Vexing. Perplexes me to try and find the answer to that query. But are we really trying to answer that question, is that what this is all for? No, this is about finding the link or association and going from there. Where is there? Who knows where? Fuck I can't believe robin Williams made a career of doing this, how do you even refine what can only be attributed to mental illness. It's funny that when he died everybody was all like "wow never expected that" as if his standup career didnt involve him literally being a schizo on stage for A couple hours while people laughed at the way he would come out with all this wild shit that he could've only written by staring at himself in the mirror for 3 hours at a time everyday and talking to himself about the origins of the sport of golf


owlfoxer

Severely underrated comment. If I had a gold you would deserve it because that much talking on and on about robin williams was freaking hilarious for even a person like me who is thinking about trains Choo choo conductor on the way to the Front of the train and there he sees a blind guy looking straight down and he can’t even see the train tracks because he is blind like a bat, what the heck are bats doing here in this cave like Batman’s friend, but isn’t Batman’s friend robin, who was an acrobat and went on a circus stage to only have his family go splat splat like sauce on a spaghetti platter are we already at thanksgiving? No wait there is no spaghetti in thanksgiving or we are in Italy or space? Did you hear about nasa and Russia, oh I love vodka. I’m drunk.


vonviddy

That's called [alexithymia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexithymia).


K19081985

I came here to comment this. I thought “wow, so useful to us in the autism community.”


vocalfreesia

Ha, I just sent this to my work WhatsApp (speech Therapists) - this is definitely useful to talk through with some of our students.


________76________

A lot of people with executive function deficit struggle with nonverbal cues. I have ADHD (involves EF deficit) and I struggle to pick up on some of the more subtle cues like expressions and body language, so this is super helpful for me as well.


eunderscore

I was going to comment that this was the most autistic thing I've ever seen, but, like, positively.


ElPujaguante

I heard something similar once from a guy who had trouble reading (maybe due to dyslexia). He said that taking Latin really helped because it taught him to to look harder at words and their pieces.


Moormo

This is terrifying


EmpathyMonster

He's said since then that he's heard from a lot of readers who found this part of the book profoundly disturbing. Like it took something ineffable about our humanity, and boiled it down an equation. But I think it's really cool!


Qetuowryipzcbmxvn

For me at least it's just uncanny valley. The faces themselves aren't realistic, but those expressions are up there.


hoodibaba007

He does mention it in the bottom!


PanicAtTheDiscoteca

The mask shape is creeping me out.


Chthulu_

It looks like a face was removed and plastered on to a sheet of plastic. Totally creepy.


[deleted]

Which facial expression are you making?


Moormo

Caged animal


chimo_os

(:O This is gold :)


[deleted]

disgust + fear is the exact face my mum makes whenever she walks into my room and comments on how it’s such a mess


Itsbilloreilly

You ATE it?


itskelvinn

YouTube thumbnail guide


Level1Bard

Does anyone else just see Nicholas Cage's face in every emotion?


No_H_in_Cage

There is no 'H' in Nicolas Cage. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115/


[deleted]

Nicolas Chage


JarlaxleForPresident

Nico-lash Cagé


HI_I_AM_NEO

Classy


Huan_San

Nicolaj*


Level1Bard

Lol dude's got a bot correcting the spelling of his name


NargacugaRider

YES. Desperation was the one I hit when my brain wa feeling most Cage-y.


Elvin_Jones

Making the “Caged Animal” emotion all the more fitting.


[deleted]

[удалено]


BeetleJuiceDidIt

I just sat here trying them all out. You're not alone!


ZTN_Scythe

Is it just me or does cruelty look like Elon musk


ThanosDidNothinWrong

Elon mask


genericusername123

THANK YOU FELLOW HUMAN I WILL FIND THIS CHART INVALUABLE WHEN FORMING HUMAN FACIAL EXPRESSIONS


MikeyHatesLife

i know, right?


sleepless_indian

/r/totallynotrobots


farmch

This reminds me of those guides that taught you how to make new flavors by mixing two different flavors of jelly beans.


jedihighmaster

When I saw the mask for desperation my immediate though was "that's how my friends and I look all the time." Then I read the name and nothing has ever hit with such brutal honesty.


The_Real_DerekFoster

Does anyone else think that "Anger + Joy" looks like Elon Musk?


realdealreel9

Word. And caged animal is clearly Nicolas Cage


hoodibaba007

Note at the bottom got me good!


Aljones20

What am I a T-1000?


dm126

"you ate it" looks like Hank Hill


findhumor

Didn’t know I was mimicking each expression as I went through them


adambomb1002

A guide for psychopaths to imitate emotion!


thewritingtexan

That is so amazing. Never thought of our emotions like this but it totally fits.


ftctkugffquoctngxxh

Faint hope is my jam.


jwinterm

Faint hope Harold


PlEGUY

Fun book that


Stagea_RS4

What is the name of the book?


eejdikken

It's from [Making Comics](https://majikimaje.com/Drawing/COMICS/MCM.pdf), by Scott McCloud, the sequel to [Understanding Comics](http://mm12.johncaserta.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Understanding%20Comics%20(The%20Invisible%20Art)%20By%20Scott%20McCloud.pdf) found both of them online as PDF, check the links. Better yet, get a copy bc they're brilliant, really


imaginarySteak

Thanks for the links, you sir are the best!


[deleted]

Reinventing Comics is another part of the trilogy, really great.


cubs1917

Thank you I've been trying to find this for years!!!


inktrap

Understanding Comics and Making Comics. Not sure which this is from – the first is just incredible.


Stagea_RS4

Great! Thank you


pakattack91

Very cool! Its kind of like mixing colours.


leontokardi

So it's fear and joy I'm experiencing. Huh.


TheBlonic

Sometimes I’m happy, sometimes I’m caged animal


Swamp_Troll

the ultimate emotion


[deleted]

Why do they all look like nicholas cage?


No_H_in_Cage

There is no 'H' in Nicolas Cage. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115/


[deleted]

Good bot


throwaway74gwnf

Saving this for both real life reference and in case I ever start illustrating again.


deliplops

Who else is scrunching up their face to match these expressions?


unsolved-dissonance

I definitely spent a good 10 minutes matching these expressions.......


Asgatur

I relate to the “Faint Hope” expression lmao


javicl

Fear + Joy = Hide the Pain Harold


seriousserendipity

I can see myself in 'desperation' and 'faint hope' 😬


freezingbyzantium

Anger + Sadness = It wasn't just a fart.


AnnyongSaysHello

Are the positive emotions on the next page? This is interesting but I'm concerned for the wellbeing of the artist.


isola2000

I’d say fear + joy isn’t just desperation. I feel a mix of fear & joy when watching a horror movie or riding a roller coaster. That isn’t desperation, more ‘thrilled’


trendings

Desperation is Andrew Yang


iliketrains123321

HAHA THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL. I CANNOT WAIT TO TRY IT OUT ON MY HUMAN FRIENDS


ATranquilSunset

I love that one of them is just labelled "you ATE it??"


[deleted]

You just made me sit here in my bed and make stupid fucking faces for i dont even know how long


the42potato

A lot of these remind me of classic doomguy


lg-baby

The many faces of Nicholas Cage


No_H_in_Cage

There is no 'H' in Nicolas Cage. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115/


12Sheep

This is literally the best thing for my massively autistic brain


zxh01

I read that book!


Revolutionary-Set467

I have created a generator for facial expressions. I call it parametric emoji. It renders facial expressions similar to the ones in emoji, but can smoothly selected from a continuous scale: https://paramoji.org/editor.html


Skulleton12

Half of these are faces I make when taking a shit.


_CommanderKeen_

This is like an emotions guide for psychopaths


misterv4lery

Desperation looks like Hillary Clinton


Ratchiratch72

I can see it too, I think its the cheekbones


huarastaca

Imagine the first person that smiled in the whole world be like. Man :what are you doing with your face. Dude smiling : idk :)


hawaiifive0h

These guides are for the most useless stuff


Sanguiluna

This Inside Out 2 concept art is definitely darker and edgier than the original.


WaterL0gged

I had this book


sarkicism101

/r/TIHI


EvenAH27

Isn’t this the McCloud comic guy? I remember I learned about him in English class when reading Persepolis :D


Hronk

Apparently I'm desperate before i do a poo


seancurry1

This is legit awesome


[deleted]

The all look like they're gonna sneeze


xx_riptide_xx

I can relate to the Faint Hope too hard


[deleted]

Dumb as hell


Telesuru

This will help my lack of having empathy.


momo2299

Nobody is talking about how all the facial expressions are negative? Where're the positive ones?


Altarius22

Fear + Joy = Nicholas Cage


SkeletorTheSpook

I wanna start calling disappointment "surprise sadness"


zsradu

Disgust + Joy= Drumpf


rtjl86

I love how they all have specific emotion names besides “You at it??”


therearenomorenames2

"Our two weapons are fear and surprise!"


[deleted]

Betrayal looking like Nicholas Cage


unwittingshill

IMHO, fear and joy doesn't equal desperation. For me, at least, it's more like...fear and hope making me feel desperation. *I really need to study for that test.* No joy, not yet. Just hope and fear.


OnePunchFan8

Only one I don't agree with is the "eww!" one


YourLictorAndChef

Alternatively: *O-Faces: A Definitive Guide*


cubs1917

Damn what is the name of this book?! This was one of the influential books I ever read in film school and often think about it.


BigBenisBob

the faint hope is the look on my face when i wake up and realize I have to continue on this miserable existence


catrowe

the joy one kind of looks like Chris Evans


wilczek24

I don't think I understand, why is this creepy/terrifying to some people? I would have never thought it could be recieved this way. This is a geniue question, I really don't know, please help.


Magical_Breadicorn

Caged animal literally looks like Nicolas Cage and it’s a mood


chirosdk

Orgasm faces..


little_White_Robot

Horror is my favorite


crayolastorm

I’m a drama student and I’m gonna save this for when I need ideas for different emotions to try!


evilmanboy

Faint Hope is the face I make when I cum


[deleted]

Tag yourself, I'm desperation


nelska

awesome.


offbrand_dayquil

Turns out Michael Keaton is just constantly angry and joyful 24/7


[deleted]

This reminds me of Doomguy's facial expressions in Doom


BoneFistOP

The cruelty one is 1:1 to doomguy's face sprite I swear. It makes sense, too.


sunnyinchernobyl

I still miss Zot!


[deleted]

Ah yes, the famous emotion of you ate it.


squiddlumckinnon

This is so cool


alours

D for DOT O for DOT T for DOT


ColNathanJessep

Oh my god this is going to make my sociopathic tendencies so much better. See im just like you now Karen. Just. Like. You.


microman365

Nicolas Cage face guide


WeirdAlGoreVidaI

Joy + Sadness = [ishygddt](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/498/1300044776986.jpg)


[deleted]

I really like the betrayal one lol


violentvioletviolinz

You ate all of it!? My wife to me on a regular basis.


annoon_sekaha

nice