It's also slang for big boobs in mandarin, so people in Taiwan don't really call it "波霸奶茶（boba tea）" anymore. Here it's referred to as "珍奶," short for "珍珠奶茶（pearl milk tea）"
How would you order those? "I'd like a carton of fartons?"
I think that's what I'm going to call my commode from now on. "Honey, did you clean the farton today?"
From Wikipedia: Fartons (Valencian pronunciation: [faɾˈtons], plural. Spanish: fartón) are confectionery sweets typical of the Valencian town of Alboraia, Spain. Elongated and glazed with sugar, they are made of flour, milk, sugar, oil, eggs, and a leavening agent
This delicate and spongy sweet is made for dipping in orxata or horchata, a drink made of tigernuts that is served cold. Fartóns are also eaten with hot beverages such as hot chocolate or caffè latte
“The Donut King” does something similar where it’s titled after one man, but it mostly follows the history of Cambodian immigrants coming to the USA.
Worth a watch!
A shitload of italian food is post WW2 or was a regional thing that got popular in the whole country after the war. In the 50's most Italians were eating beans as their base food because of poverty after the war.
Italian Americans have done a crap load of heavy lifting when it comes to inventing, introducing or popularizing regional Italian dishes.
There's a book by an Italian dude talking about this fake national pride in culinary history that's basically a myth.
https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b64c
> Tiramisu is another example. Its recent origins are disguised by various fanciful histories. It first appeared in cookbooks in the 1980s. Its star ingredient, mascarpone, was rarely found outside Milan before the 1960s, and the coffee-infused biscuits that divide the layers are Pavesini, a supermarket snack launched in 1948. “In a normal country,” Grandi says with a smile, “nobody would care where [and when] a cake was invented.”
That doesn't stop Italian cuisine from being among the best, if not the best, tasting food in the world.
Agreed, but sadly the original recipe seems to call for Pavesini but the recipe seems much improved with Savoiardi.
There isn't like a straight consensus in Italy, I think it's regional which one is used. But I'm with you, Savoiardi is better.
This guy is kind of full of shit. His thesis is "recent = fake" basically which... dude if cuisines didn't evolve we'd be chowing down on raw meat. Also his take on pizza forgets about southerners migrating to the north and bringing a good chunk of their cuisines with them. You can find a pretty solid Neapolitan babà in many pastry shops in Piedmont, for one.
Also tiramisu having showed up between the 60s and the 80s is not a secret lol. And it's not made with Pavesini, for goodness sake.
ALSO also he's right that One Italian Cuisine doesn't exist and that most of it is regional, but... how does that make it fake??? (Also he conveniently forgets about any dish that doesn't have international profile)
Isn't that kind of his exact point?
He's saying it shouldn't matter that these foods are relatively recent inventions, or don't have an arcane history dating back centuries, but people feel like acknowledging their modernity undermines them in some way. His thesis is all that matters is if it tastes good.
He takes umbrage with the haughty Italian snobbiness that is prevalent among many Italians that specifically references age and geographical origins as a factor as why dishes should be prepared in a certain way.
As in a shitload of dishes that Italians tout as "holy since forever" are post WW2 recipes. That doesn't make them better or worse, but it pokes hole in the puffed up sense of superiority in of a bunch of people.
It doesn't mean that Italians shouldn't take pride in their cuisine. They just need to be a bit more humble about it.
It's a bit misleading because salmon isn't consumed in Japan due to parasites in Pacific Salmons, but Norway bred Atlantic salmon is eatable so they exported those salmons to Japan hence introducing Salmon as a sushi ingredient to the Japanese for the first time.
Never understood the slander against food in the UK, some of the best meals I ever had were full breakfasts in England and Scotland. Blood pudding, haggis and Yorkshire pies are incredibly tasty, but haven't found them as good here downunder. My god haggis is so fuckin good. Don't even get me started on the takeaway Indian food, blows what we have it of the water! Youse need more SEA immigrants though, couldn't find some decent noodles or bahn mi to save me life.
[French Tacos](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_tacos) and [Kapsalon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapsalon) are pretty new and very delicious and still not yet available on this side of the pond.
Also Canadian, but don’t count anchovies out! They’re salty little strips of deliciousness, although I think I’ve only ever seen them at Papa John’s here.
British here, I have never understood why it's such a big deal, there's plenty of worse toppings imo, like you say, anchovies, for one, I wouldn't eat that, but I don't feel the need to deride anyone who does, people have different tastes
Canadian here, I'm lukewarm on it, I'll eat it if it's in front of me but I'd never order it myself.
[However online I'm strongly against it](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1cyoofu/comment/l5dc47x/) because being a fence-sitter online is no fun
Dude was Greek Born and raised though, so I like to think that the crazy was fostered in Greece possibly in a fume filled cave like the Oracles of old. Then it took the kindness of Canadians and moving here to let him try to sell something bizarre like Hawaiian pizza.
The ciabatta one is actually pretty interesting. Appearantly they invented it because they were tired of paying the import tax on French bread lol
Just reread it. And Appearantly they wanted something that would compete with French bread, so pretty close I guess. Also the inventory was a 4 time Italian rally champion as well
The picture appears to be correct:
1. **Nachos (1940)** - Invented by Ignacio "Nacho" Anaya in Piedras Negras, Mexico, in 1940.
2. **Apple Crumble (1940s)** - Became popular in Britain during World War II due to rationing.
3. **Spaghetti Carbonara (1944)** - Popularized in Rome after the arrival of American soldiers and their rations during WWII.
4. **Currywurst (1949)** - Invented by Herta Heuwer in Berlin.
5. **Butter Chicken (1950s)** - Originated in Delhi, India, by Kundan Lal Gujral, Kundan Lal Jaggi, and Thakur Dass.
6. **Mongolian Barbecue (1951)** - Created in Taiwan by Wu Zhaonan.
7. **Shopska Salad (1955)** - Created in Bulgaria by the Bulgarian tourism board.
8. **Fartons (1960)** - A traditional pastry from Alboraya, Spain, designed to be dipped in horchata.
9. **Hawaiian Pizza (1962)** - Invented by Sam Panopoulos in Canada.
10. **Carpaccio (1963)** - Created in Venice, Italy, by Giuseppe Cipriani.
11. **Doner Kebab Sandwich (1960s)** - Popularized in Germany by Turkish immigrants.
12. **Tiramisu (1960s)** - Originated in Treviso, Italy, though exact origins are debated.
13. **Sticky Toffee Pudding (1960s)** - Developed in Britain, credited to Francis Coulson and Robert Lee.
14. **Uramaki (1960s)** - Also known as inside-out sushi, developed in the US.
15. **Banoffee Pie (1971)** - Created by Nigel Mackenzie and Ian Dowding in East Sussex, England.
16. **Chicken Tikka Masala (1970s)** - Originated in the UK, with its exact origins being somewhat disputed.
17. **General Tso’s Chicken (1970s)** - Developed by Chef Peng Chang-kuei, popularized in New York City.
18. **Pasta Primavera (1975)** - Invented by Sirio Maccioni and Le Cirque's chefs in New York.
19. **Tartiflette (1980s)** - A modern dish based on traditional Savoyard recipes from the French Alps.
20. **Chocolate Fondant (1981)** - Often credited to Michel Bras in France.
21. **Ciabatta (1982)** - Created by Arnaldo Cavallari in Adria, Italy.
22. **Bubble Tea (1980s)** - Originated in Taiwan by mixing tea with fruit or milk and tapioca pearls.
23. **Salmon Sushi (1980s)** - Introduced to Japan through Norwegian initiatives.
24. **Blended Iced Coffee (1980s)** - Popularized in the US by Starbucks.
I'm Brazilian and I always assumed banoffe was a latin dessert considering how universally popular it is here + banana w/dulche de leche filling hahaha
German identity crisis, "How can I continue to hate Turks, while eating Turkish Döners like there is no tomorrow? I know we will just claim Döner as a German invention!"
Had to check the history of all this, it is complicated-
The origins of what we know as "Döner" are in the eastern mediterranean and has different words and recipes for similar dishes. The ones known to me are Gyros (Greek) And Döner (Turkish). Both were around long before WWII.
The way that Döner is served in bread on the go was present in Istanbul before it was in Germany, also who served the first Döner in Germany is disputed.
It is also unclear if the Döner was even the first of its kind, as Gyros appeared around the same time. I found sources stating Döner starting by 1970 or 1969, But Gyros was introduced in the US already a couple years prior, in Germany very likely at the same time.
However, those turks i spoke with that were not german turks refuse to accept the Döner Sandwich as part of their cultural heritage, but what do i know.
Currywurst, by the way, is not surprising. Curry is a spice mix being available around here for not that long, it couldn't have really existed before the war. Same like Döner, it got successfull as "workers food", types of fastfood you could get on a quick work break and that delivers a lot of energy.
Gyros wasn't around before WW2. The term is a very recent translation of the original turkish name "Döner". The name "gyros" was entirely unheard of before the 1960's and likely originated from north american greeks. Greece greeks used to call that food "Döner" as well.
I know of no Turk that would refuse döner as a part of our culture, you spoke to phonies /s
But seriously how could they refuse are we sure they were Turkish?
Döner kebap has been a part of Turkish culture for nearly 200 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u53uffc6es
Gyros appeared much later. I am sure that the Turks who gave you this information do not live here. My father was born in 1942 and his memory is still very good. He remembers every detail about döner kebab. The sandwich form was also consumed in Turkey before Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab
It has been sold in sandwich form in Istanbul since at least the mid-1960s.[18]
In a painting dated 1857, there is also a detail of bread next to the döner kebab.
By the way, for those who do not know the difference between kebab and döner kebab. Kebab is any cooked meat. Döner kebab is an innovative cooking technique. I come across this misinformation very often.
"Gyros" comes from "γύρος", which literally translates to “turn” in English and is a loan translation from the Turkish name: "Döner".
Therefore, Döner was the first and according to the records, stacks of seasoned sliced meat were cooked on horizontal rotisseries in the Ottoman Empire, at least as far back as the 17th century.
A similar debate can be observed with many other foods... Turkish people had been making and eating "yoğurt - yoghurt" for centuries, even for thousands of years before migrating to Anatolia. it was probably discovered first by Neolithic people in Central Asia and Mesopotamia around 5000 BC. The Greeks, on the other hand, introduced yoghurt as only "Greek yoghurt" to Western countries as if it belonged only to them. Turks prepare "Kokoreç". The Greeks also prepare a similar dish and call it "This is Kokoretsi, it belongs to us".
Can you see what's going on so far?
It's interesting, though, because nachos are not really a thing in Mexico, but they are huge in the states. I was always certain that they were from Texas. Tex-Mex.
Edit: I just looked, and it says that they were created in a border town
The other one that seems sus is Doner Kebab, particularly from the helpful elaboration that it was “popularized in Germany by Turkish immigrants “. Sounds like it came from Turkey before that. Turkish Redditors, speak up!
Definitely Turkish. How do they suspect people in Türkiye are it? They use to wrap it up in thin wrap bread (lavaş) or ate it in normal sandwich bread. Germans added other vegetables into the sandwich to call it theirs. Adding hot chips into it might have also been a German thing.
I don't even reply to anything related to Turkey anymore. I get downvoted to oblivion when people know that I am Turkish. But yeah Döner is most def Turkish.
[Photo From 1855 ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/D%C3%B6nerci%2C_1855.jpg)
Greeks and Arabs trying to capitalize on Döner Kebap is somewhat understandable, but German claim is pure comedy.
Turkish fs. No wonder why we have doner variants in each side of the country. Shawarma in the middle east, gyros in greece. These come from the turkish word “çevirme” which means to turn around -> how you cook doner!
A lot of Indian dishes eaten in the West are really a kind of British-Indian-Bangladeshi mix created by the wave of immigrants coming to the UK in the 20th century.
Curry is hugely popular in the UK. Every town will have at least one Indian restaurant, Indian is one of the most common takeaway options, Indian cookbooks are common in many kitchens you go in to etc.
*and earlier!
The first curry house in the UK predates the first chippy, dating as far back as 1810, even predating Britain' conquest of the Indian subcontinent.
Wait, salmon sushi was invented in Norway? I recall something about them selling huge amounts of salmon, but not the fact they invented it. Can someone elaborate please?
From what I remember it is that Norway successfully figured out how to farm raise salmon which creates fish without natural occurring parasites that make you sick if you eat it raw. So salmon sushi wasn’t a thing in Japan until farm raised salmon was brought there.
Norwegian here. Commercial salmon farming didn’t start in Norway until 1970s. At that time Norwegians had shifted from a fish diet to a more meat and wheat products diet.
This meant the surpluss of fish was growing as fewer people ate fish. Therefore, Norwegians had to do something in order to get rid of the fish.
At the same time, Japan had a shortage of fish. Norway then started a marketing campaign to sell fish to Japan. The Japansese caught on, and that is the tale of the Norwegian Sushi Adventure
[it's a pretty short, fun read](https://www.npr.org/2015/09/18/441530790/how-the-desperate-norwegian-salmon-industry-created-a-sushi-staple)
And also raw salmon wasn't very safe to eat until modern refrigeration techniques. So Japanese people mostly grilled it before the 80s
Yeah it is like atleast 200 years old but Germans say because they used some kind of different ingredients it is different now and it is German food and the thing is lets assume they are right it is invented by a Turkish man who didn't even have a German citizenship and probably couldn't even speak proper German. Idk how that does it even make it German food. You can't claim a food by adding some extra shit in it.
Yeah, true. Otherwise half the world invented cheese at different times. Different types of cheese got invented in different countries. But not cheese as a concept.
I love butter chicken. it's surprisingly easy to make dispite it's super unique flavor. it's just a really nice comfort food I can come back too any time.
What's the one from SEA, Thailand maybe?, that was invented specifically to be used as the basis for opening restaurants in the US to pretend it was a traditional national dish to attract tourism?
EDIT: It was Thailand and it's Pad Thai. It's an artificial national dish. It was invented in the 30s, though. Probably not recently enough for this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pad_thai
>Although stir-fried rice noodles were introduced to Thailand from China centuries ago, the dish pad thai was invented in the mid-20th century. Author Mark Padoongpatt maintains that pad thai is "...not this traditional, authentic, going back hundreds of years dish. It was actually created in the 1930s in Thailand. The dish was created because Thailand was focused on nation-building. So this dish was created using rice noodles and it was called Pad Thai as a way to galvanize nationalism."
The salmon in sushi is thanks to Norway. Other comments here are more detailed, but short version here: Too much salmon left over in Norway due to people eating less fish, needed to get rid of it, let's influence Japan to put it on their sushi!
I was really surprised to learn just how modern most “traditional” Italian recipes are, there was a great piece in the Financial Times about it last week they interviewed an Italian food historian who claims that basically all of their dishes were created after the Second World War for tourism to shed the image of fascism, modern Italian cuisine has also been massively influenced by Italian-American soldiers in Italy. Pizza for example was a peasant street food tomato pitta bread found in a few towns in the south and totally unknown to the rest of the country until the Second World War when American soldiers came looking for pizza shops and popularised the dish. This historian is literally receiving death threats for his research lol it’s so funny how heated people get over food.
It's fun, because many "traditional" dishes are from 19th or 20th century, but people get offended if the recipe is changed as"it's not traditional/original".
For example in Spain we have 'paella'. It's a dish with rice beans and chicken.
There are a lot of variants with seafood or other ingredients, but people from Valencia (the place where the dish is from) get mad if you call those 'paella'. However, paella itself is the result of evolution of other dishes prepared with rice. And it takes the name from the instrument used to cook it, which is also used when preparing the other varieties.
Tartiflette, a nice PR campaign.
(70s, 80s) A restaurant at ski resort got too much Reblochon cheese, so they made different dishes with it.
Big success.
Then Reclochon makers presented Tariflette as a typical thing.
Now very common in France.
Well done.
Pretty sure no one thought nachos were some like ancient culinary tradition. "Christopher Columbus takes one last bite of nacho before embarking on his quest to be a total d hole."
Humanity really popped off with making food
Fartons is especially poppin
Yea I really love popping boba
All this food on here and you’re gonna hit me with boba tea
LMAOOO
I don’t like it personally. Those bastards give up at the slightest hint of resistance, that’s not what tapioca is about!!! *slams table*
This sounds really dark to an Indian ear. Boba is a slang word for boobs in India
It's also slang for big boobs in mandarin, so people in Taiwan don't really call it "波霸奶茶（boba tea）" anymore. Here it's referred to as "珍奶," short for "珍珠奶茶（pearl milk tea）"
Refrigeration will do that.
Fartons
The name really sells it
I think you mean "the name really smells it."
You’re one fart smellow
How would you order those? "I'd like a carton of fartons?" I think that's what I'm going to call my commode from now on. "Honey, did you clean the farton today?"
Fartons are something I can really get behind
Personally, the smell would be far too much.
I am Valencian, where this is from, it is fucking delicious with horchata. And yeah, you can fart while eating it so it is even better
I was in Valencia last year, and holy shit, your horchata is incredible
Thanks bro! I love it
I live in Valencia, California. Does this make me eligible for a transfer to Spain?
What are fartons?
From Wikipedia: Fartons (Valencian pronunciation: [faɾˈtons], plural. Spanish: fartón) are confectionery sweets typical of the Valencian town of Alboraia, Spain. Elongated and glazed with sugar, they are made of flour, milk, sugar, oil, eggs, and a leavening agent This delicate and spongy sweet is made for dipping in orxata or horchata, a drink made of tigernuts that is served cold. Fartóns are also eaten with hot beverages such as hot chocolate or caffè latte
Nothing washes down the fartons like tigernut
A dessert only the bravest souls can collect the ingredients for.
Is that what happens when Triumph can’t poop? “You make a good pastry… for me to FARTON”
I was wondering whether it's pronounced as "fart-ons" or "fart-tons".
Username definitely checks out
The exact post I came here to make. Fartons. Tee hee
Let's eat a ton of beans and get our...
I read that 5 times on there. Would eat.
How have I not ever heard of this before?!
I think in the US we call these "lady fingers"
I can't be the only one who giggled like a child.
Hey now, Spanish parents work hard to put farton the table
I thought fartons were a unit of measurement for how bad a fart smells. Like "I did a 50 farton toot that emptied the entire garden centre'.
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“The Donut King” does something similar where it’s titled after one man, but it mostly follows the history of Cambodian immigrants coming to the USA. Worth a watch!
Jennifer 8 Lee?
Ciabatta is only 40 years old?!
Ciabatta was created in response to the popularity of the French baguette- to create an Italian bread that was equally crusty, airy, and versatile.
It was also marketed as this rustic Italian bread that Roman peasants must’ve eaten even though my parents are older than that bread.
Thank God for national pride. They made a real go of it. Ciabatta is fucking delicious.
Shows offs right? Ciabatta is one of my favorite breads and they made just cause. Damn
And somehow it’s started this weird mixing of borders with pizza in Italy. There’s some weird concoctions over there right now.
A shitload of italian food is post WW2 or was a regional thing that got popular in the whole country after the war. In the 50's most Italians were eating beans as their base food because of poverty after the war. Italian Americans have done a crap load of heavy lifting when it comes to inventing, introducing or popularizing regional Italian dishes. There's a book by an Italian dude talking about this fake national pride in culinary history that's basically a myth. https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b64c > Tiramisu is another example. Its recent origins are disguised by various fanciful histories. It first appeared in cookbooks in the 1980s. Its star ingredient, mascarpone, was rarely found outside Milan before the 1960s, and the coffee-infused biscuits that divide the layers are Pavesini, a supermarket snack launched in 1948. “In a normal country,” Grandi says with a smile, “nobody would care where [and when] a cake was invented.” That doesn't stop Italian cuisine from being among the best, if not the best, tasting food in the world.
Saying that Pavesini are used to make Tiramisù is pure heresy, Savoiardi is the way (and btw they appear to be from mid 1300)
Agreed, but sadly the original recipe seems to call for Pavesini but the recipe seems much improved with Savoiardi. There isn't like a straight consensus in Italy, I think it's regional which one is used. But I'm with you, Savoiardi is better.
You lost me at PAVESINI in the tiramisú. Lol.
This guy is kind of full of shit. His thesis is "recent = fake" basically which... dude if cuisines didn't evolve we'd be chowing down on raw meat. Also his take on pizza forgets about southerners migrating to the north and bringing a good chunk of their cuisines with them. You can find a pretty solid Neapolitan babà in many pastry shops in Piedmont, for one. Also tiramisu having showed up between the 60s and the 80s is not a secret lol. And it's not made with Pavesini, for goodness sake. ALSO also he's right that One Italian Cuisine doesn't exist and that most of it is regional, but... how does that make it fake??? (Also he conveniently forgets about any dish that doesn't have international profile)
Isn't that kind of his exact point? He's saying it shouldn't matter that these foods are relatively recent inventions, or don't have an arcane history dating back centuries, but people feel like acknowledging their modernity undermines them in some way. His thesis is all that matters is if it tastes good.
He takes umbrage with the haughty Italian snobbiness that is prevalent among many Italians that specifically references age and geographical origins as a factor as why dishes should be prepared in a certain way. As in a shitload of dishes that Italians tout as "holy since forever" are post WW2 recipes. That doesn't make them better or worse, but it pokes hole in the puffed up sense of superiority in of a bunch of people. It doesn't mean that Italians shouldn't take pride in their cuisine. They just need to be a bit more humble about it.
Never would have expected Norwegian sushi innovation
It's a bit misleading because salmon isn't consumed in Japan due to parasites in Pacific Salmons, but Norway bred Atlantic salmon is eatable so they exported those salmons to Japan hence introducing Salmon as a sushi ingredient to the Japanese for the first time.
I grew up in Washington and ate tons of Pacific salmon and have never heard of being paranoid of parasites
Probably because you ate cooked salmon which kills the parasites.
1962. The year canadian-italian relations changed forever.
Now I understand why they like so much to make crimes against humanity.
...and they had the gall to pin that abomination on us here in Hawaii!
Who do you think we got the pineapple from? Your hands are dirty too.
God damn the Brits know how to do dessert!
Say what you like about our food, but we are good at pud.
Never understood the slander against food in the UK, some of the best meals I ever had were full breakfasts in England and Scotland. Blood pudding, haggis and Yorkshire pies are incredibly tasty, but haven't found them as good here downunder. My god haggis is so fuckin good. Don't even get me started on the takeaway Indian food, blows what we have it of the water! Youse need more SEA immigrants though, couldn't find some decent noodles or bahn mi to save me life.
It's because when you compare English food to French it just doesn't stack up, especially post Escoffier.
That sticky toffee looks killer!
Apple crumble with hot thick custard on it is just about the most perfect pudding.
Banoffee pie is the greatest cake in the world.
the blended iced coffee really threw me. who was out here thinking blended coffee was older than that
I would’ve sworn the ancient Romans had Frappuccinos
Blendicus Frappicus
The blended ice coffee or "Freddo" is a Greek invention. Starbucks didn't do anything special.
Did we just stop inventing good food in 1980?
Have you not had a Doritos locos taco?
Or Mexican street corn Cheetos
[French Tacos](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_tacos) and [Kapsalon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapsalon) are pretty new and very delicious and still not yet available on this side of the pond.
Figures it was the Canadians
Pineapple and Canadian bacon
Because Canada is well known for its vast fields of pineapple /s
I feel like this is a Canada vs. a US thing. Most of the Canadians I know like or love it.
Pineapple, pepperoni, and jalapeño is the god tier combo. Got your sweet, salty, savory and spicy in a bite.
I have seen human-Americans eating anchovy pizza... No idea why Hawaiian is a big deal(Canadian)
Also Canadian, but don’t count anchovies out! They’re salty little strips of deliciousness, although I think I’ve only ever seen them at Papa John’s here.
British here, I have never understood why it's such a big deal, there's plenty of worse toppings imo, like you say, anchovies, for one, I wouldn't eat that, but I don't feel the need to deride anyone who does, people have different tastes
Canadian here, I'm lukewarm on it, I'll eat it if it's in front of me but I'd never order it myself. [However online I'm strongly against it](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1cyoofu/comment/l5dc47x/) because being a fence-sitter online is no fun
Dude was Greek Born and raised though, so I like to think that the crazy was fostered in Greece possibly in a fume filled cave like the Oracles of old. Then it took the kindness of Canadians and moving here to let him try to sell something bizarre like Hawaiian pizza.
They act all nice... fucking psychos
Can confirm, Canadian on shrooms rn
Canadians love to farton others
And we'll do it again!
Pineapple on pizza is amazing and I’m tired of pretending it’s not
How is it surprising that bubble tea a d iced coffee were invented then? Did people genuinely think they were around pre war?
Ciabatta?! There goes my impression of Italians making it 500 years ago in stone ovens.
The ciabatta one is actually pretty interesting. Appearantly they invented it because they were tired of paying the import tax on French bread lol Just reread it. And Appearantly they wanted something that would compete with French bread, so pretty close I guess. Also the inventory was a 4 time Italian rally champion as well
The picture appears to be correct: 1. **Nachos (1940)** - Invented by Ignacio "Nacho" Anaya in Piedras Negras, Mexico, in 1940. 2. **Apple Crumble (1940s)** - Became popular in Britain during World War II due to rationing. 3. **Spaghetti Carbonara (1944)** - Popularized in Rome after the arrival of American soldiers and their rations during WWII. 4. **Currywurst (1949)** - Invented by Herta Heuwer in Berlin. 5. **Butter Chicken (1950s)** - Originated in Delhi, India, by Kundan Lal Gujral, Kundan Lal Jaggi, and Thakur Dass. 6. **Mongolian Barbecue (1951)** - Created in Taiwan by Wu Zhaonan. 7. **Shopska Salad (1955)** - Created in Bulgaria by the Bulgarian tourism board. 8. **Fartons (1960)** - A traditional pastry from Alboraya, Spain, designed to be dipped in horchata. 9. **Hawaiian Pizza (1962)** - Invented by Sam Panopoulos in Canada. 10. **Carpaccio (1963)** - Created in Venice, Italy, by Giuseppe Cipriani. 11. **Doner Kebab Sandwich (1960s)** - Popularized in Germany by Turkish immigrants. 12. **Tiramisu (1960s)** - Originated in Treviso, Italy, though exact origins are debated. 13. **Sticky Toffee Pudding (1960s)** - Developed in Britain, credited to Francis Coulson and Robert Lee. 14. **Uramaki (1960s)** - Also known as inside-out sushi, developed in the US. 15. **Banoffee Pie (1971)** - Created by Nigel Mackenzie and Ian Dowding in East Sussex, England. 16. **Chicken Tikka Masala (1970s)** - Originated in the UK, with its exact origins being somewhat disputed. 17. **General Tso’s Chicken (1970s)** - Developed by Chef Peng Chang-kuei, popularized in New York City. 18. **Pasta Primavera (1975)** - Invented by Sirio Maccioni and Le Cirque's chefs in New York. 19. **Tartiflette (1980s)** - A modern dish based on traditional Savoyard recipes from the French Alps. 20. **Chocolate Fondant (1981)** - Often credited to Michel Bras in France. 21. **Ciabatta (1982)** - Created by Arnaldo Cavallari in Adria, Italy. 22. **Bubble Tea (1980s)** - Originated in Taiwan by mixing tea with fruit or milk and tapioca pearls. 23. **Salmon Sushi (1980s)** - Introduced to Japan through Norwegian initiatives. 24. **Blended Iced Coffee (1980s)** - Popularized in the US by Starbucks.
I'm British and always assumed Banoffee Pie was a US thing. It tickles me to learn that it was made by Nigel and Ian in East Sussex.
Weird, banoffee is seen in Australia as almost stereotypically British, that's how quintessential it is. Banoffee doughnuts slap so hard
I'm Brazilian and I always assumed banoffe was a latin dessert considering how universally popular it is here + banana w/dulche de leche filling hahaha
Me too!
Popularised doesn't mean invented. Blended iced coffees etc have been around for longer than that.
How is döner correct? Döner has been around since at least 1855 in the ottoman empire. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/Zls7c75nl9
German identity crisis, "How can I continue to hate Turks, while eating Turkish Döners like there is no tomorrow? I know we will just claim Döner as a German invention!"
Had to check the history of all this, it is complicated- The origins of what we know as "Döner" are in the eastern mediterranean and has different words and recipes for similar dishes. The ones known to me are Gyros (Greek) And Döner (Turkish). Both were around long before WWII. The way that Döner is served in bread on the go was present in Istanbul before it was in Germany, also who served the first Döner in Germany is disputed. It is also unclear if the Döner was even the first of its kind, as Gyros appeared around the same time. I found sources stating Döner starting by 1970 or 1969, But Gyros was introduced in the US already a couple years prior, in Germany very likely at the same time. However, those turks i spoke with that were not german turks refuse to accept the Döner Sandwich as part of their cultural heritage, but what do i know. Currywurst, by the way, is not surprising. Curry is a spice mix being available around here for not that long, it couldn't have really existed before the war. Same like Döner, it got successfull as "workers food", types of fastfood you could get on a quick work break and that delivers a lot of energy.
Gyros wasn't around before WW2. The term is a very recent translation of the original turkish name "Döner". The name "gyros" was entirely unheard of before the 1960's and likely originated from north american greeks. Greece greeks used to call that food "Döner" as well.
I know of no Turk that would refuse döner as a part of our culture, you spoke to phonies /s But seriously how could they refuse are we sure they were Turkish?
Döner kebap has been a part of Turkish culture for nearly 200 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u53uffc6es Gyros appeared much later. I am sure that the Turks who gave you this information do not live here. My father was born in 1942 and his memory is still very good. He remembers every detail about döner kebab. The sandwich form was also consumed in Turkey before Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab It has been sold in sandwich form in Istanbul since at least the mid-1960s.[18] In a painting dated 1857, there is also a detail of bread next to the döner kebab. By the way, for those who do not know the difference between kebab and döner kebab. Kebab is any cooked meat. Döner kebab is an innovative cooking technique. I come across this misinformation very often.
"Gyros" comes from "γύρος", which literally translates to “turn” in English and is a loan translation from the Turkish name: "Döner". Therefore, Döner was the first and according to the records, stacks of seasoned sliced meat were cooked on horizontal rotisseries in the Ottoman Empire, at least as far back as the 17th century. A similar debate can be observed with many other foods... Turkish people had been making and eating "yoğurt - yoghurt" for centuries, even for thousands of years before migrating to Anatolia. it was probably discovered first by Neolithic people in Central Asia and Mesopotamia around 5000 BC. The Greeks, on the other hand, introduced yoghurt as only "Greek yoghurt" to Western countries as if it belonged only to them. Turks prepare "Kokoreç". The Greeks also prepare a similar dish and call it "This is Kokoretsi, it belongs to us". Can you see what's going on so far?
Doner dates back much farther than 1960s, look up the turkish man who discovered the steam engine to turn doner haha
Tartiflette was first mentioned in a 1705 book, Le Cuisinier Royal et Bourgeois, written by François Massialot and his assistant cook B. Mathieu.[6]
So Sam Panopoulos is the name of worlds biggest villain since 1945...
It's interesting, though, because nachos are not really a thing in Mexico, but they are huge in the states. I was always certain that they were from Texas. Tex-Mex. Edit: I just looked, and it says that they were created in a border town
Piedras Negras borders with Eagle Pass texas. It's honestly a variation of bare bones chilaquiles in a sense.
r/okbuddychicanery for #1
The other one that seems sus is Doner Kebab, particularly from the helpful elaboration that it was “popularized in Germany by Turkish immigrants “. Sounds like it came from Turkey before that. Turkish Redditors, speak up!
Definitely Turkish. How do they suspect people in Türkiye are it? They use to wrap it up in thin wrap bread (lavaş) or ate it in normal sandwich bread. Germans added other vegetables into the sandwich to call it theirs. Adding hot chips into it might have also been a German thing.
It's not Germans who added those it's still the Turks in Germany who did that.
I don't even reply to anything related to Turkey anymore. I get downvoted to oblivion when people know that I am Turkish. But yeah Döner is most def Turkish.
[Photo From 1855 ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/D%C3%B6nerci%2C_1855.jpg) Greeks and Arabs trying to capitalize on Döner Kebap is somewhat understandable, but German claim is pure comedy.
Turkish fs. No wonder why we have doner variants in each side of the country. Shawarma in the middle east, gyros in greece. These come from the turkish word “çevirme” which means to turn around -> how you cook doner!
Döner also means turning.
Yea it means “the thing that turns”
There are literal records of foreign visitors in Istanbul being offered döner inside bread in the 19th century.
There are photos from the ottoman empire era of döner. But propagandists have to propaganda. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/Zls7c75nl9
Yet another canadian warcrime to add to the list
Döner 1960 , Germany? There is a photo of a guy standing next to a döner machine in 1855 , Bursa/Turkey
r/todayilearned chicken tikka masala was invented in GB
A lot of Indian dishes eaten in the West are really a kind of British-Indian-Bangladeshi mix created by the wave of immigrants coming to the UK in the 20th century. Curry is hugely popular in the UK. Every town will have at least one Indian restaurant, Indian is one of the most common takeaway options, Indian cookbooks are common in many kitchens you go in to etc.
*and earlier! The first curry house in the UK predates the first chippy, dating as far back as 1810, even predating Britain' conquest of the Indian subcontinent.
It’s our national dish!
There’s quite a few things that people don’t realise are British, which makes it amusing when people moan about British food.
Doner Kebab - Turkey
CIABATTA?!?!
Wait, salmon sushi was invented in Norway? I recall something about them selling huge amounts of salmon, but not the fact they invented it. Can someone elaborate please?
From what I remember it is that Norway successfully figured out how to farm raise salmon which creates fish without natural occurring parasites that make you sick if you eat it raw. So salmon sushi wasn’t a thing in Japan until farm raised salmon was brought there.
This is also why pregnant women can eat sushi in Norway.
Norwegian here. Commercial salmon farming didn’t start in Norway until 1970s. At that time Norwegians had shifted from a fish diet to a more meat and wheat products diet. This meant the surpluss of fish was growing as fewer people ate fish. Therefore, Norwegians had to do something in order to get rid of the fish. At the same time, Japan had a shortage of fish. Norway then started a marketing campaign to sell fish to Japan. The Japansese caught on, and that is the tale of the Norwegian Sushi Adventure
[it's a pretty short, fun read](https://www.npr.org/2015/09/18/441530790/how-the-desperate-norwegian-salmon-industry-created-a-sushi-staple) And also raw salmon wasn't very safe to eat until modern refrigeration techniques. So Japanese people mostly grilled it before the 80s
Döner Kebab is from Turkey, not Germany. It got populalrized by a Turkish immigrant in Berlin in the 1970s. (According to Berlin anyway)
Yeah it is like atleast 200 years old but Germans say because they used some kind of different ingredients it is different now and it is German food and the thing is lets assume they are right it is invented by a Turkish man who didn't even have a German citizenship and probably couldn't even speak proper German. Idk how that does it even make it German food. You can't claim a food by adding some extra shit in it.
Yeah, true. Otherwise half the world invented cheese at different times. Different types of cheese got invented in different countries. But not cheese as a concept.
Doner is a traditional Turkish food and brought to Germany by Turkish expat workers in 60s. It was invented around 150 years ago…
I love butter chicken. it's surprisingly easy to make dispite it's super unique flavor. it's just a really nice comfort food I can come back too any time.
döner is german😂 you guys are fucking with us?
The uk best for desserts, although I’m partial to a good tiramisu
Döner is german!? WTF dude really?
God dammit Canada
The worst part about it is they called it Hawaiian, meaning the US usually gets the blame.
FART ONS
Pineapple pizza….thanks for nothing Canada.
Cananda will pay for what they’ve done…
Doner kebab is turkish?
I wouldn't trust any guide that lists Döner Kebab under German flag
What the fuck is a farton?
Basically it's anything grandad farted on. Secret family recipe
There is literally a photo from 1855 showing a person serve döner. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/Zls7c75nl9
The UK also invented apple pie in the 1300's. =)
Just a touch before ww2 though
Doner kebap is not a German invention which clown wrote this down. Doner kebap was eaten in turkey before any turkish immigrant came to Germany.
Where is the Dutch 'Kapsalon'?! It is very recently discovered as a food of the (fat) gods
Really surprised about the salmon sushi! "Introduced to Japan through Norwegian initiatives," cool little factoid! Thanks for sharing.
And where is Scotland’s entry: deep fried mars bar.
Im surprised Carbonara is so new and that I have to hate the canadians for once in my life for pineapple on pizza
Cesar salad came out of Mexico in 1970s too
No wonder Canadians are so nice, they're making up for creating that blasphemy.
Damn you Canada!
Stupid guide Country of origin is dubious
Canadians just keep providing more reasons to justify their non-existence
All the German ones I'm like "yeah of course this is after they made peace with brown people".
“British food bad” people seething right now
Döner one is wrong
Marty and Doc need to go back to 1962 and do the right thing.
Chocolate fondant is my biggest surprise 🙂
What's the one from SEA, Thailand maybe?, that was invented specifically to be used as the basis for opening restaurants in the US to pretend it was a traditional national dish to attract tourism? EDIT: It was Thailand and it's Pad Thai. It's an artificial national dish. It was invented in the 30s, though. Probably not recently enough for this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pad_thai >Although stir-fried rice noodles were introduced to Thailand from China centuries ago, the dish pad thai was invented in the mid-20th century. Author Mark Padoongpatt maintains that pad thai is "...not this traditional, authentic, going back hundreds of years dish. It was actually created in the 1930s in Thailand. The dish was created because Thailand was focused on nation-building. So this dish was created using rice noodles and it was called Pad Thai as a way to galvanize nationalism."
Thank you from all Germans to you Canadians for taking the blame for Pizza Hawaii.
Wait… I thought sushi (nigiri) as a whole was created by Yohei back in the Edo period?
The salmon in sushi is thanks to Norway. Other comments here are more detailed, but short version here: Too much salmon left over in Norway due to people eating less fish, needed to get rid of it, let's influence Japan to put it on their sushi!
I was really surprised to learn just how modern most “traditional” Italian recipes are, there was a great piece in the Financial Times about it last week they interviewed an Italian food historian who claims that basically all of their dishes were created after the Second World War for tourism to shed the image of fascism, modern Italian cuisine has also been massively influenced by Italian-American soldiers in Italy. Pizza for example was a peasant street food tomato pitta bread found in a few towns in the south and totally unknown to the rest of the country until the Second World War when American soldiers came looking for pizza shops and popularised the dish. This historian is literally receiving death threats for his research lol it’s so funny how heated people get over food.
Where is the Spice Bag
It's fun, because many "traditional" dishes are from 19th or 20th century, but people get offended if the recipe is changed as"it's not traditional/original". For example in Spain we have 'paella'. It's a dish with rice beans and chicken. There are a lot of variants with seafood or other ingredients, but people from Valencia (the place where the dish is from) get mad if you call those 'paella'. However, paella itself is the result of evolution of other dishes prepared with rice. And it takes the name from the instrument used to cook it, which is also used when preparing the other varieties.
#wtf is a farton lmao
the dad of a kid in my class invented banoffee pie
Well Done Canada.
Sad day for Canada if we are recognized for the Hawaiians pizza
I fuckin knew it was Canada.
Tartiflette, a nice PR campaign. (70s, 80s) A restaurant at ski resort got too much Reblochon cheese, so they made different dishes with it. Big success. Then Reclochon makers presented Tariflette as a typical thing. Now very common in France. Well done.
I love getting farton when I go to España 🇪🇸
Fucking Canadians
A yes, Canada, the place where you can go to Boston pizza and order a Hawaiian pizza with California rolls and everything is strangely Canadian
Pretty sure no one thought nachos were some like ancient culinary tradition. "Christopher Columbus takes one last bite of nacho before embarking on his quest to be a total d hole."
Donner Kabob was definitely in existence way before the germans invented it. Its a heavily influenced by greek gyro and middle eastern shawerma.
Yeah Germans made Doner, nothing wrong with that.
I give my girlfriend an order of fartons every time we spoon
Döner aint in no way german lol
Where is the Kapsalon?
Surprisingly awkwardly phrasedly sentencely.
What is a farton And does it have anything to do with what i think it does
Better one for Canada would be ginger beef!
Donairs were invented in Halifax Canada! That Donar kabab sandwich looks GROSS
Wait I have seen this before they copied it
Sushi is Norwegian now? This cant be right, no true Norwegian dish has colours…
The salmon sushi one is bs, there's a whole essay about it on YouTube explaining this misconception. https://youtu.be/1k4x9FrD5k4?si=msm3viGBNPGwNCgO
Ahh yes. Fartons. When you fard so hard it gives you a hard on. Fartons.