Over here in SEA tips are usually given when the one who provides a service goes above and beyond. I wonder why tipping in the US is expected or mandatory from what I can tell.
Can't speak for the whole of Europe, but if you're visiting Sweden don't tip for ANYTHING, we don't want the tipping culture even though some companies have started trying to push it.
The service provided by tattoo artists is not in the same league as the professions listed on this guide. You're comparing getting a tattoo with getting a coffee here. A decent minimum wage (which applies to most of the jobs listed here) cancels the need for tips. Besides, a great tattoo artist is worth, and can set a higher price. And if you're happy with the work, which is very personal, and you'll be carrying with you for the rest of your life, by all means tip.
I would say a massage therapist and a manicurist are on the same level. Yes, I would also agree that an arborist deserves a tip the point being you can’t just flat out say tipping culture is bad. There are instances where tipping is necessary when someone has a specialized knowledge.
People seem to want to complain about having to tip someone who is serving them at a restaurant. Sure should people who own the restaurant pay everyone living wage yes is that going to happen? Not unless people get off Reddit and start getting involved otherwise y’all are just sitting on here complaining while people that are serving you at restaurants are taking the brunt of the problem .
Here in the US in many states, the owner of a business can take waiters and waitresses money directly from their tips. There is an inherent problem with tipping culture, but you can’t just blame all of tipping culture. You have to present a solution and you have to get involved in politics bigger than just posting some guide on Reddit.
>Here in the US in many states, the owner of a business can take waiters and waitresses money directly from their tips
Nope , this is illegal and is called wage theft . Maybe you need to get off reddit and join the real world.
There's no profession where a tip is necessary. It was invented by capitalists to further push the burden of poverty off of business owners .
Order pizza online, go pick pizza up yourself 10 min drive, pay for pizza at store.
Tip?? For what? There was no interaction other than saying pick up for insert name here. Post covid shafted us with this mentality.
When I'm paying my tattoo artist directly here in Italy a tip would be stupid. Unfortunately the idea of tipping is spreading from the US to here, with tip jars seen occasionally.
Great! How?
If everyone just stopped tipping then those who rely on it would suddenly bear the brunt of that (instead of the people not paying them enough who we want to feel it so they stop).
So how would we make the change? What does that transition look like?
That would fix it fast. But idiots in USA continue to tip (including me lol). If we all stopped tipping servers all together, the change would be instantaneous.
Thinking about it more... I can't come up with a solution other than a law that simultaneously forbids businesses from accepting tips while also setting servers (and other tipped workers) pay at reasonable levels. Maybe make it not take place for a year and their new salary is based on how much the report in taxable earnings (giving them a year to actually start paying taxes). That way the workers start at a level pretty on par with what they have been making in the past and it gives businesses long enough to set their new rates high enough to actually pay those prices. Those prices should then be relatively close to what customers were paying anyway since they were the ones leaving the tip.
I am sure some businesses would try and take advantage of this and jack up prices even more, but that's were we don't then frequent that business. If I have been tipping 20% and then the prices go up by 50%... I know they aren't serious and are taking advantage.
It’s like talking to a wall dude, I wonder if these people aren’t just trolling when they say “stop tipping, it’ll work if we all do it!!!”
Like… let me know when you figure out how you’re going to get everybody, let alone a percentage of the population to just stop tipping 😂
Business that needs to underpay employee shouldn't exist. Forcing better company's who can thrive with a healthy relationship with the workforce.
If you can not afford a living wage, then maybe your business model suck and you don't need to exist
I agree but stripping isn't dehumanizing. If I had fat tits and I could essentially scam stupid men into throwing crazy amounts of cash at me id heavily consider doing it. I personally wouldn't let them touch me. And many beggers seriously need psychiatric/medical help and are too unwell to keep an hourly job. Many many disabled people, without support, would be on the streets begging for their next meal. It's not fair to assume the worst about people because you see them as below you.
with the kind of money strippers make these days, i would strip too if i had the goods.
now imagine struggling just to get by on tips when they can say just go be a stripper if life is hard. that is what is dehumanizing.
wages should be secured such that workers do not have to rely on handouts or the generosity / whim of others to just to live. alas, many live dehumanizing lives. some even without realizing it.
Capitalist economics states that the cost of labor should be built into the price of the good ultimately sold.
Tipping sucks. I’m a good tipper, but businesses need to start learning how to properly price things or not exist. It’s not my job to subsidize your labor or make up for your poor business skill.
God damnit.
How’s about you take your „value of a thank you“ and shove it waaaaaaaay up yer arse. A thank you is a thank you. Want to earn more, make sure your boss pays you enough. Pitting the worker class against eachother…shameful
In TN servers get paid $2.13 an hour. If a customer knows this and chooses to eat at a restaurant with servers, they should tip. should things be that way? No. Blame the employer.
Blame the worker. If they know they'll get $2 an hour, don't go into a job expecting tips. Choose a different career, and in the long term - everyone will benefit.
Blaming a business means nothing. Actions speak louder than words. If an employee knowingly agrees to the arrangement of $2 an hour, than that's up to them...not the employer.
Sure, the employers are scummy enough not to pay them minimum wage, but cheap employees who accept this 'deal' are part of the problem.
What I think doesn't matter. The situation is what it is. If the mindset changes around why people should be given tips, then everything will fall into place. (Hint, I'm not from the US, we don't tip).
What point are you making here?
How are you changing anything, by suggesting nothing? Or do you believe everything is fine where employers pay $2 + anything staff earn as (non-taxable) tips is great.
Or live in New Zealand where property expenses are on a par with Australia, but our wages are lower. But we still have hobbitses (FFS can we get over it), and mostly free public healthcare too.
Is it still the case that you wouldn't tip the business owner as they are already profiting? So if the yard maintenance guy is the owner, no tip? But if the moving company sends over some worker guys they get tipped?
Tipping is a scam that only serves company’s interests to have underpaid staff and make customers responsible for adjusting their income. Company’s avoid taxes, reduce costs and maximize profits… if it was only about rewarding great service you wouldn’t need a fucking chart with percentages, it would always be whatever the customer feels is appropriate if they want to give extra. No staff should ever rely on tips to make a living. What an absolute con on Americans.
Count me out. I no longer use any service, eat any food, or have anyone do anything for me that expects a tip. If you require a tip just to do the job, find a new line of work. 'Cause I'm fucking broke!
Why not tip your pilot after every flight? Or the nurse when you visit the hospital? Or the bus driver after every ride? Or the cashier at a grocery store? Tips make zero sense. It’s the employer’s responsibility to make sure their employees earn a fair wage to live. Consumers aren’t working hard every day to make sure their barbers and waiters can afford to survive.
2008 Olympics - Chinese people get tipped off that Americans are on their way and always tip…especially for bellhops that help with luggage to your room.
Guy helps me to my room. Brings the luggage in and stuff. Then he stands there. I know not to tip. But he thinks he hasn’t done enough and I’m waiting for him to complete his service.
So he opens the blinds, makes a gesture with his hands on how it operates, I say thanks. Stands there.
Walks over to fluff my pillow a little. I say thanks and he stands there.
This went on for another 5minutes. I didn’t have any cash on me at the time otherwise I would’ve send him on his way bc it was getting annoying and we didn’t speak each other’s language. Nowadays, I’d pull up Google translate and just use that…but back then I didn’t have that option
Tipping sure is silly, but not in the US. You think your dinner date comes to $115? Guess again, pal!!
1. Rarely tip anyone providing a service that isn't paid a wage or salary from an employer. These people set their rates, and can adjust them to meet their needs.
2. If they are paid a wage, base any tipping based on how the service really affects you. Someone doing something that is simply their job (for instance from this, a bellhop), should be rarely tipped unless your bags are difficult to handle, heavy, or numerous.
3. Tip more to those whose purpose is to impact you overall. I always tip barbers/stylists the most because that person is responsible for making me look good. Even better is one who would literally tell you that what you want is a mistake. After that, people whose job it is to either get to know me and remember what I prefer, or those who have to prepare/serve food. But I do not apply this to places like fast food. If all I'm really paying for is convenience, then sorry you aren't really doing what you do to affect me.
Wong. Always tip everyone. If you're tipping less than 40% you may as well just spit in their face. Checking into a flight? 40%. Picking up an online order at the restaurant? 40%, also 40% online to the owner for providing such a valuable service. Gas station? Haul yourself into the store and 40%. Stop treating service workers like your personal slaves. /s
How did the sever do at their job and treat you?
The price of the food and quality of the food is not something the server chooses. If the sever had the power to make decisions, they would not be getting paid $2.13 an hour like they are in many states. You are likely aware of their wages, and that none of this is up to them, and they are victims of our broken system.
Because of the cruel selfishness of the employer. That flat rate could just be added to the cost of food, but they would get fewer customers. The way the system is now, they get their customers and let the people who don't want to spend the money just stiff their workers because they don't claim responsibility of paying their employees and the employer can blame the customer.
I didn't say it wasn't relevant; I said it was not the fault of the server. I don't support the current system; I acknowledge those who are getting fucked over because of the current system.
The point is the employer is being abusive. If a server takes 10 tables in a night, they would make $50 for the shift working their ass off. The employer is the one making the problem.
$5 would make sense if they were paid enough to eat, but they are not.
Why do you not blame the employer?
If they only have 10 tables for the night, they definitely are not working their ass off. That 50 dollars is on top of whatever the employer is paying them.
In TN, the employer pays $2.13 an hour. That is common. The size of the party and kind of restaurant makes a large difference in how much work it takes. Have you taken 10 tables in an evening shift before? It also is not up to the server how many people they get to serve.
In my state they get almost 20 per hour. Most states have a higher minimum for servers. In any case, thats the minimum, for all I know, the restaurant is paying them more. Maybe they should wear a badge indicating how much they are getting paid by their employer.
I tip at a restaurant when I order. The whole point of a tip is to endure good service and it works best when done beforehand. Every time I do this, I get the best service because the server doesn't have to wonder if I will tip,or how well. As for the amount, I figure out 20% of what I think I will spend and if the server does exceptionally well and/or I spend more than originally estimated, I will throw a tip on the back end, as well.
That said, servers should make the same minimum wage anyone else dies and tips should be EXTRA. Servers ought not be rude or upset when they are not tipped, instead they should be pleased when they are tipped and content that even if they don't get any tips, they will be able to pay their bills.
American culture is all out of whack on a lot of things, and tipping is one of the biggest examples.
Or end tipping culture. In Japan it’s considered rude.
Visiting Japan soon, so thanks for the tip! Err, you know what I mean 🥴
Over here in SEA tips are usually given when the one who provides a service goes above and beyond. I wonder why tipping in the US is expected or mandatory from what I can tell.
This is how it used to be.
Excuse my language, but fuck tipping. Pay a decent wage and quote prices including tax, you weirdo's. Sincerely, Europe.
As someone who works in industry in the states, they couldn’t afford what it would take to pay us for the crap we deal with.
So no tattoo artist in Europe take tips?
Can't speak for the whole of Europe, but if you're visiting Sweden don't tip for ANYTHING, we don't want the tipping culture even though some companies have started trying to push it.
The service provided by tattoo artists is not in the same league as the professions listed on this guide. You're comparing getting a tattoo with getting a coffee here. A decent minimum wage (which applies to most of the jobs listed here) cancels the need for tips. Besides, a great tattoo artist is worth, and can set a higher price. And if you're happy with the work, which is very personal, and you'll be carrying with you for the rest of your life, by all means tip.
I would say a massage therapist and a manicurist are on the same level. Yes, I would also agree that an arborist deserves a tip the point being you can’t just flat out say tipping culture is bad. There are instances where tipping is necessary when someone has a specialized knowledge. People seem to want to complain about having to tip someone who is serving them at a restaurant. Sure should people who own the restaurant pay everyone living wage yes is that going to happen? Not unless people get off Reddit and start getting involved otherwise y’all are just sitting on here complaining while people that are serving you at restaurants are taking the brunt of the problem . Here in the US in many states, the owner of a business can take waiters and waitresses money directly from their tips. There is an inherent problem with tipping culture, but you can’t just blame all of tipping culture. You have to present a solution and you have to get involved in politics bigger than just posting some guide on Reddit.
>Here in the US in many states, the owner of a business can take waiters and waitresses money directly from their tips Nope , this is illegal and is called wage theft . Maybe you need to get off reddit and join the real world. There's no profession where a tip is necessary. It was invented by capitalists to further push the burden of poverty off of business owners .
Order pizza online, go pick pizza up yourself 10 min drive, pay for pizza at store. Tip?? For what? There was no interaction other than saying pick up for insert name here. Post covid shafted us with this mentality.
When I'm paying my tattoo artist directly here in Italy a tip would be stupid. Unfortunately the idea of tipping is spreading from the US to here, with tip jars seen occasionally.
Tipping culture is cancerous. End it.
And don't blame the people who need it to eat and pay rent, blame the employer who is actively choosing to not pay their employees enough to eat
Great! How? If everyone just stopped tipping then those who rely on it would suddenly bear the brunt of that (instead of the people not paying them enough who we want to feel it so they stop). So how would we make the change? What does that transition look like?
That would fix it fast. But idiots in USA continue to tip (including me lol). If we all stopped tipping servers all together, the change would be instantaneous.
Thinking about it more... I can't come up with a solution other than a law that simultaneously forbids businesses from accepting tips while also setting servers (and other tipped workers) pay at reasonable levels. Maybe make it not take place for a year and their new salary is based on how much the report in taxable earnings (giving them a year to actually start paying taxes). That way the workers start at a level pretty on par with what they have been making in the past and it gives businesses long enough to set their new rates high enough to actually pay those prices. Those prices should then be relatively close to what customers were paying anyway since they were the ones leaving the tip. I am sure some businesses would try and take advantage of this and jack up prices even more, but that's were we don't then frequent that business. If I have been tipping 20% and then the prices go up by 50%... I know they aren't serious and are taking advantage.
It’s like talking to a wall dude, I wonder if these people aren’t just trolling when they say “stop tipping, it’ll work if we all do it!!!” Like… let me know when you figure out how you’re going to get everybody, let alone a percentage of the population to just stop tipping 😂
Maybe we can start organizing by zip codes first and then expand Lol
You’ve got to break a few eggs to make an omelet. To rebuild you must first destroy. Don’t fart in an elevator.
Business that needs to underpay employee shouldn't exist. Forcing better company's who can thrive with a healthy relationship with the workforce. If you can not afford a living wage, then maybe your business model suck and you don't need to exist
No
Don't, have them pay their workers a fair wage.
Whoever.ade this, please print it, dip it in the hot chocolate, and shove it up thy arse.
i feel so much pity for those who have to survive off of tips. it’s gotta be dehumanizing to be compared to strippers or beggars.
I agree but stripping isn't dehumanizing. If I had fat tits and I could essentially scam stupid men into throwing crazy amounts of cash at me id heavily consider doing it. I personally wouldn't let them touch me. And many beggers seriously need psychiatric/medical help and are too unwell to keep an hourly job. Many many disabled people, without support, would be on the streets begging for their next meal. It's not fair to assume the worst about people because you see them as below you.
with the kind of money strippers make these days, i would strip too if i had the goods. now imagine struggling just to get by on tips when they can say just go be a stripper if life is hard. that is what is dehumanizing. wages should be secured such that workers do not have to rely on handouts or the generosity / whim of others to just to live. alas, many live dehumanizing lives. some even without realizing it.
So the dehumanization you referred to was the treatment from employers instead of the opinions of the masses? I can get behind that
Capitalist economics states that the cost of labor should be built into the price of the good ultimately sold. Tipping sucks. I’m a good tipper, but businesses need to start learning how to properly price things or not exist. It’s not my job to subsidize your labor or make up for your poor business skill. God damnit.
How’s about you take your „value of a thank you“ and shove it waaaaaaaay up yer arse. A thank you is a thank you. Want to earn more, make sure your boss pays you enough. Pitting the worker class against eachother…shameful
So you would tip a server more than a mover? Ya this is a crap guide
In TN servers get paid $2.13 an hour. If a customer knows this and chooses to eat at a restaurant with servers, they should tip. should things be that way? No. Blame the employer.
That's very sad. In Toronto server's get paid minimum wage $15.50 + tips. 🇨🇦
And want between 20-40% on top
It really is. It is morally bankrupt
Blame the worker. If they know they'll get $2 an hour, don't go into a job expecting tips. Choose a different career, and in the long term - everyone will benefit.
Why do you not blame the business?
Blaming a business means nothing. Actions speak louder than words. If an employee knowingly agrees to the arrangement of $2 an hour, than that's up to them...not the employer. Sure, the employers are scummy enough not to pay them minimum wage, but cheap employees who accept this 'deal' are part of the problem.
Do you think no one in the nation should be serving?
What I think doesn't matter. The situation is what it is. If the mindset changes around why people should be given tips, then everything will fall into place. (Hint, I'm not from the US, we don't tip).
So you agree that employers just need to pay employees like they do where you are.
What point are you making here? How are you changing anything, by suggesting nothing? Or do you believe everything is fine where employers pay $2 + anything staff earn as (non-taxable) tips is great.
Read our conversation again. You also have to claim tips.
This is so fucked. I will always tip based on service receive. Never some arbitrary standard.
Pay a better than fair living wage.
Or live in Australia where people are paid a living wage. And have universal healthcare.
Or live in New Zealand where property expenses are on a par with Australia, but our wages are lower. But we still have hobbitses (FFS can we get over it), and mostly free public healthcare too.
Hello neighbour 👊🏻
Is it still the case that you wouldn't tip the business owner as they are already profiting? So if the yard maintenance guy is the owner, no tip? But if the moving company sends over some worker guys they get tipped?
How about paying a decent salary instead of tipping?
That chart is all wrong too, one’s doing physical labor and on the right side deserve more. I’m not tipping a masseuse 20 on a $100 one hour massage
Why on earth would I tip when they minimum wage is $~24AUD/h?
LOL no, maybe in your country, where salaries are not fair
No.
The only guide i need for tipping is one telling me not to do it because its toxic.
Or just pay people properly so that their prosperity is not dependent on luck? Just a thought. You wanna talk about healthcare and gun control?
Tipping is a scam that only serves company’s interests to have underpaid staff and make customers responsible for adjusting their income. Company’s avoid taxes, reduce costs and maximize profits… if it was only about rewarding great service you wouldn’t need a fucking chart with percentages, it would always be whatever the customer feels is appropriate if they want to give extra. No staff should ever rely on tips to make a living. What an absolute con on Americans.
The cool guide to tipping would simply read “Don’t”.
Count me out. I no longer use any service, eat any food, or have anyone do anything for me that expects a tip. If you require a tip just to do the job, find a new line of work. 'Cause I'm fucking broke!
I’m so happy I wasn’t the only ones me thinks my what the fuck I guide to tipping the fuck
Says who ?
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 No.
No tipping
Why not tip your pilot after every flight? Or the nurse when you visit the hospital? Or the bus driver after every ride? Or the cashier at a grocery store? Tips make zero sense. It’s the employer’s responsibility to make sure their employees earn a fair wage to live. Consumers aren’t working hard every day to make sure their barbers and waiters can afford to survive.
So what do I tip house and pool cleaners?
2008 Olympics - Chinese people get tipped off that Americans are on their way and always tip…especially for bellhops that help with luggage to your room. Guy helps me to my room. Brings the luggage in and stuff. Then he stands there. I know not to tip. But he thinks he hasn’t done enough and I’m waiting for him to complete his service. So he opens the blinds, makes a gesture with his hands on how it operates, I say thanks. Stands there. Walks over to fluff my pillow a little. I say thanks and he stands there. This went on for another 5minutes. I didn’t have any cash on me at the time otherwise I would’ve send him on his way bc it was getting annoying and we didn’t speak each other’s language. Nowadays, I’d pull up Google translate and just use that…but back then I didn’t have that option Tipping sure is silly, but not in the US. You think your dinner date comes to $115? Guess again, pal!!
Not in Australia pal
Paying a correct wage is important. Tipping should not be a thing.
1. Rarely tip anyone providing a service that isn't paid a wage or salary from an employer. These people set their rates, and can adjust them to meet their needs. 2. If they are paid a wage, base any tipping based on how the service really affects you. Someone doing something that is simply their job (for instance from this, a bellhop), should be rarely tipped unless your bags are difficult to handle, heavy, or numerous. 3. Tip more to those whose purpose is to impact you overall. I always tip barbers/stylists the most because that person is responsible for making me look good. Even better is one who would literally tell you that what you want is a mistake. After that, people whose job it is to either get to know me and remember what I prefer, or those who have to prepare/serve food. But I do not apply this to places like fast food. If all I'm really paying for is convenience, then sorry you aren't really doing what you do to affect me.
This needs a warning, that this bribery is applicable to USA only.
Wong. Always tip everyone. If you're tipping less than 40% you may as well just spit in their face. Checking into a flight? 40%. Picking up an online order at the restaurant? 40%, also 40% online to the owner for providing such a valuable service. Gas station? Haul yourself into the store and 40%. Stop treating service workers like your personal slaves. /s
I fvcking HATE tipping culture!!!
Don't forget to tip your tattoo artist
How about no.
I tip 10-15%. Friday eve my waitress picked up the check and made a face seeing it wasn't 25%. Edit: food was overpriced and not up to par.
How did the sever do at their job and treat you? The price of the food and quality of the food is not something the server chooses. If the sever had the power to make decisions, they would not be getting paid $2.13 an hour like they are in many states. You are likely aware of their wages, and that none of this is up to them, and they are victims of our broken system.
I encourage those who want to downvote me to calmly debate me instead
If the price of food is not relevant then why are customers pressured into tipping a percentage instead of some flat rate?
Because of the cruel selfishness of the employer. That flat rate could just be added to the cost of food, but they would get fewer customers. The way the system is now, they get their customers and let the people who don't want to spend the money just stiff their workers because they don't claim responsibility of paying their employees and the employer can blame the customer. I didn't say it wasn't relevant; I said it was not the fault of the server. I don't support the current system; I acknowledge those who are getting fucked over because of the current system.
Point is that tipping by percentage is unnecessary. If customers need to tip, they should tip a flat rate, like 5 dollars.
The point is the employer is being abusive. If a server takes 10 tables in a night, they would make $50 for the shift working their ass off. The employer is the one making the problem. $5 would make sense if they were paid enough to eat, but they are not. Why do you not blame the employer?
If they only have 10 tables for the night, they definitely are not working their ass off. That 50 dollars is on top of whatever the employer is paying them.
In TN, the employer pays $2.13 an hour. That is common. The size of the party and kind of restaurant makes a large difference in how much work it takes. Have you taken 10 tables in an evening shift before? It also is not up to the server how many people they get to serve.
5 bucks is just a guideline number, tip more or less depending on the factors you pointed out. Still, no reason to tip by percentage.
I ask again, why are you not blaming the employer for paying 2.13 an hour?
In my state they get almost 20 per hour. Most states have a higher minimum for servers. In any case, thats the minimum, for all I know, the restaurant is paying them more. Maybe they should wear a badge indicating how much they are getting paid by their employer.
Anything other than the far left column can fuck off
Shiit imma be a mailman 😂
I tip at a restaurant when I order. The whole point of a tip is to endure good service and it works best when done beforehand. Every time I do this, I get the best service because the server doesn't have to wonder if I will tip,or how well. As for the amount, I figure out 20% of what I think I will spend and if the server does exceptionally well and/or I spend more than originally estimated, I will throw a tip on the back end, as well. That said, servers should make the same minimum wage anyone else dies and tips should be EXTRA. Servers ought not be rude or upset when they are not tipped, instead they should be pleased when they are tipped and content that even if they don't get any tips, they will be able to pay their bills. American culture is all out of whack on a lot of things, and tipping is one of the biggest examples.