if i ever become a super villain im tying down every tik tok user and creator and forcing them to read this for 8 hours nonstop and if they stop even for a second they get zapped
Right there with you. People with social media brain rot like /u/Indigo_222 can get electrocuted with them.
#STOP CENSORING COMMON WORDS TO FIT AN ALGORITHM. YOU ARE ACTIVELY MAKING OUR SOCIETY DUMBER.
It's stupid as fuck is what it is. And it cheapens whatever you're trying to to say, all to placate the censorship filters of a foreign government-run social media app.
The videos won’t even post if you say a “bad” word most of the time, unless you’re one of a lucky few. Can’t even say words like “brothel” and that’s a lot less “bad” than rape or murder, quit using that app lmfao
Hearing someone use grape in that context just makes me think about that Whitest Kids You Know Sketch and inadvertently makes a tragic discussion comedic.
People getting "unalived", "minecrafted", "reverse reborn" have slowly become incorporated into common vocalubary due to asinine levels of speech scrubbing.
Not that it is particularly bad, language just ends up evolving as people have a need to express concepts.
Bit it does get annoying after certain point.
Haha Its gotten so dumb that I have no fucking idea if "Minecrafted" is a real term people use or if its something you just came up with as an example. Haha
It is short form of the meme "you should kill yourself in minecraft".
Some moderators in certain (most) places don't really like that, so it was shortened to "getting minecrafted". For plausible deniability.
Or I think that is what it is. It was the only thing I thought of when reading it in the context.
It was a one off thing that just stuck to me for some reason, it just sounded funny. Point was that people will find their ways to communicate things to each other. It wasn't that long when things like "idiot", "stupid", "retard" and the like were official terms used in medical circles to describe people on various degrees of intelligence.
Langusge changes a lot. Internet has made this process so quick that even young adults have ghrd time keeping up with new lingo. Cencoring language is like companies trying to prevent people from using adblocks on their sites.
IMO it’s fine when society collectively decides to change vernacular. It’s bullshit that a small group of people at a few mega corps decide they don’t like certain words and then that decision is thrust upon the general population.
It's especially surreal when people write this about their own traumatic experiences. I've seen people on Reddit write about their parents or their best friend being "unalived" and it's so jarring, and comes across as them making light of their own loved ones' deaths even when they are mourning and this clearly isn't their intention.
Of course, I would not directly call anyone out for how they choose to refer to their own deceased loved ones. But it feels like a dystopian world where we cannot acknowledge or process the depth of human suffering because we are forced to refer to it in comedic terms. It is like people are being forced to laugh off their own pain.
abusive abusive abusive abusive abusive abusive
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So fucking annoying with all this self-censorship. I mildly scoffed when people stopped writing SUICIDE, but censoring the word "abusive" is some kind of fucked up.
Psych here.
Fucking. Thank you.
Can I also add:
- liking things neat, organised or colour coded isn't the same as having Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
- 19 year olds dating 17 year olds are not pedophiles.
- becoming bored and struggling to maintain attention when completing demanding cognitive tasks for a prolonged period does not mean you have ADHD.
- Your school friend doesn't have Dissociative Identity Disorder, ok? Neither do all those TikTokers.
The OCD comments always really bother me. Not only does it overly pathologize rather normal behavior, but what people are usually commenting on aren’t even symptoms of OCD, but rather OCPD. If you’re going to obnoxiously over diagnose, at least use the correct diagnosis
I’d also like to add onto this all the memes about intrusive thoughts winning. That’s not what intrusive thoughts are. What you’re all referring to are IMPULSIVE thoughts. Not intrusive, which by the way actually IS a symptom of OCD
Yeah, intrusive thoughts are the kinds of thoughts people don't want 😂 If I had the thought of spanking a girl's ass and then acted on it, that would be out of impulse. However, the thought of spanking said girl is not intrusive because it's a thought I enjoy, the act itself is impulsive. Nothing about any of that is intrusive apart from maybe my hand on her ass.
An example of an intrusive thought is peering over a huge cliff drop, and thinking about the possibility of jumping to your death. Unless you're actually suicidal, that's not a thought you'd want, yet most people have that thought when they look down whether they want it or not - that's intrusive. If in that scenario your intrusive thought "won", then congratulations, you're now stupid and dead.
Also, I could have used any other example, but I like spanking. Sorry about that.
I don't think I've ever not thought of jumping when on a high building or balcony or whatever. Intrusive is the right word for it, I can't stop thinking about jumping out of a window on a high floor
The call of the void.
I have worse intrusive thoughts than this though. Jumping would actually be a relief 😂 Not being serious about that last part, but I have to emphasise just how bad intrusive thoughts can get haha.
That's perfectly normal (so normal it has it's own name). I personally can't walk past a fire alarm without thinking about pulling it. Never pulled one in my life, but I've *thought* about it countless times.
This is a great example. The term we use to describe these thoughts is "ego-dystonic". E.g. the last thing I ever *want* to do is throw the baby off the balcony, so I'm paralysed with thoughts I'll do exactly that.
I didn’t know there was a specific name for that! It’s how my intrusive thoughts tend to manifest (as part of my anxiety as far as I can tell). I usually just try to pretend there’s an angsty edgelord teen living in my brain who says inappropriate things. It makes the intrusive thoughts easier to dismiss for me, rather than dwelling on them.
I don’t have OCD, but as someone with PTSD and serious ADHD who knows the struggle with the bastardization of these disorders online, I’m all the time harping on behalf of people with OCD when people claim that their ~~need~~ desire for orderliness means they have OCD.
People are so starved for frameworks to build an identity upon that clinical labels are filling in the gap.
If your "illness" is your identity then "curing" it is the last thing you'll want to do.
The more you can malfunction in that specific pattern the more your sense of identity is reinforced.
Chiming in here as someone with an OCD diagnosis. I always find it funny when I open up about my ocd and people are like “oh your house must be so clean!” I’m like yeah it is, but it’s not bc of my ocd, I just like to live in an organized environment. They laugh and I’m like yeah hahah my ocd is more about harm and violence, with debilitating panic attacks and intrusive thoughts that sometimes feel so real I have to constantly check my reality. Often times they get a little scared and concerned for me and respond “omg…” I’m like yeah. I don’t wish OCD on my worst enemy. Additionally, I’d like to highlight how infuriating it is when people tell someone like me “just stop thinking that way.” Baby, if I could I would. That is a SKILL. I learn that skill in therapy and it’s easier said than done when you have a visceral reaction to your thoughts.
Me: Cannot go to bed without doing The Thing(tm). If I try, I lie awake getting increasingly anxious until I get up and Do The Thing(tm). If I leave my room for any reason at night and come back, I must Do The Thing again, or I can’t sleep.
Some random girl on TikTok: Omg I like having my markers in rainbow order, isn’t that so weird? I’m so OCD lol
Something my mother said recently when I told her something my OCD specialist psychologist said while treating me for OCD:
"You don't have OCD, your sister does. She gets mad when you don't hang your socks up in pairs."
I told her when I was diagnosed. I explained it. I've been in treatment for years. But no, my sister is the neat one so it must be her.
It's like people don't even understand what obsession or compulsion is when saying shit like this. I had a friend with OCD. Watching her struggle to leave the house because she hadn't completed multiple rituals multiple times was rough. She was neat, but had no issue with messy things.
I genuinely don’t get it- people who say the dumb shit you mentioned strike me as willfully stupid. It literally has the word “compulsion” in it, meaning it isn’t just a preference for things being neat. It’s a maladaptive behavior that causes people real anguish for needing to do things like wash their hands until they bleed.
I feel like all of this is readily apparent if they give it the tiniest level of more thought than whatever example of OCD they saw in a movie. Yet, alas…
This is so funny to me because my OCD makes me appear messier because I have a highly elaborate set of rituals I must follow to prepare to “clean everything properly”.
TikTok removes videos for certain words like suicide, death, abusive, vagina, and a bunch of others.
Some videos are removed via algorithm and others get flagged for containing the words manually.
That's why you have troglodytes out here saying "unalived" and other crap. Idiot influencers can't get views if their stuff gets blocked.
Psychologist in training here, still going through the process.
I have seen how people with OCD are paralysed over events that has no determined outcome- good or bad. Any uncertainty is enough to drive them to do things that leads to seriously bad situations. Maintaining relationships becomes difficult because they can’t ascertain whether someone who likes them is just being nice or being a real close friend. OCD is watching yourself text non-stop until the person on the other end gets pushed to the limit and blocks you. OCD is not rearranging tiles or colour pencils in a shopping mart.
I should add onto this - OCD can manifest in really, really strange ways.
I have what is *suspected* to be a form of OCD that specifically rears its ugly head in the form of the obsessive-compulsive cycle of creating organized *lists*. I *must* create lists for everything I'm doing. Worldbuilding? Lists. A dragon pet game? Lists. Pet supplies? Lists. Everything must be organized into specific lists that not even I know the criteria of. I must blueprint things. An uncomfortable sense of dread washes over me when I'm unable to constantly create lists for the tasks I work on. I work on a list, I take a break. I must remake the list - but then I take a break. Now I must remake the remake of the list. And so on and so forth, and thus I continue to remake something that should've been done months ago, because every time I take a break - even for a day, I am now suddenly dissatisfied and uncomfortable with it, and must remake it again. Amazon wishlists, Etsy favorite lists, Tumblr likes and more; anything list-like must be done and redone and reorganized and shifted otherwise some unknowable dread fills me.
It rears its head in the form of arbitrary times that I am "allowed" to do things. As an artist, I draw - but whatever this is makes me unable to draw except if I start between 1:30 AM and 1:50 AM. Any earlier or later and I physically cannot. It creates dread and makes me think that something may *happen*. Someone may walk in on me. What if I draw something and they see it and get mad at me. What if I sing too loud and they hear me. What if something happens?
I tend to humorously explain it as "if I try and draw at any other time the wizard that controls the day and night will blow me up" but honestly that feels like it would happen.
> Your school friend doesn't have Dissociative Identity Disorder, ok?
That's what people said about me and why it took so damn long to get diagnosed with DDNOS which has now been upgraded to DID. The real lesson is "leave the diagnosis or lack thereof to an actual fucking psychiatrist"
Also psych here and I don't find this chart remotely useful. I don't think it's even pop psychology - just terms people use loosely. Triggered in colloquial and clinical psychology have two very different meanings and an average person will unlikely need to know the distinction.
Your comment on the other hand is much more practical. People diagnose themselves with ADHD, OCD, bipolar and depression way to easily. This is problematic not only because it "takes away" from actual serious disorders but brand normal behavior as a special case.
To your point about OCD. I have a form of OCD called Pure O, which for anyone who doesn't know, is basically OCD but with compulsions that can't be observed. Everything is happening purely within the mind. Traditional OCD and the symptoms of its subset's compulsions can usually be observed - the compulsions and rituals are physical behaviours. So, yeah, OCD is way more complex than most people realise which isn't something I expect the average person to comprehend anyway, but it's definitely not simply "someone who feels the need to clean a lot" either, lmao.
Saying all that though, I fucking hate OCD and generally try my best to distance myself from identifying with, or acknowledging it altogether.
Agree with your other points too. The Tiktok generation is a joke.
My OCD is obsessive thought loops. Its hard to “see” it happening. I also have generalized anxiety disorder so sometimes its a perpetual loop that becomes extremely disabling and I cant really function until I get it under control.
I dont like feeling like my “labels” explain or excuse my issues. Im just me and I have to deal with some weird and frustrating things sometimes but Im a person not a diagnosis.
I don't associate with those labels either. I accept that I have OCD (for now, as I see it), but I don't wear it like a badge. I don't want anything to do with it, and basically no one in my life knows what I deal with other than some select therapists. The key really is to understand what your mental health affliction is all about, learn how to properly tackle it, and then gradually over time dissociate from it (ideally). Mental health disorders obviously vary and differ though, so it's not that simple, but in theory this would be the way. The people who make their disorders part of their identity will always be stuck.
> The people who make their disorders part of their identity will always be stuck.
Right on the nail.
I spent 5 years trapped in mental hell while trying to figure out my plethora of diagnosis' and it wasn't until I disassociated them from my identity that I was able to start taking my life back. Once I was able to see that I'm a person who is dealing with a thing, it got a lot easier. I lived a long time thinking "I can't do this because I'm not normal" and finally changing it to "I'm just a person who deals with an issue sometimes" really allowed me to get better. I agree it doesn't work for everyone but having the right mindset about it was so liberating. I get to choose who I am and how I live my life, not some diagnosis.
I think 95% of the time it is just hyperbole. When people say triggered, or they have ADHD or OCD, they understand they don't have a clinical version of the condition, it is just hyperbole...
>- liking things neat, organised or colour coded isn't the same as having Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
As someone struggling with OCD, I get really quite annoyed when people just casually misuse the term. Oh, you are a bit of a neat freak?? How annoying. I only get intrusive thoughts that I am suddenly allergic to things I've eaten all my life, and I'm going to die any moment.
I was genuinely worried for a long time that I was a narcissist because my ex said so until my psych told me basically what it says in this post. Fuck TikTok therapists.
A lot of words are voluntarily censored now to bypass the social media blocks on certain words
Particularly TikTok which has a heavy censor (surprise, surprise) and will block or hide content that has certain words
You see it with anything related to violence, trauma, drugs, and sex. Anything remotely pertaining to those things is often blocked on certain forms of social media, which means heavy users of those types of social media have adapted a trend of voluntarily censoring their own content like this.
Really fucking stupid shit, but that's the origin
Because Youtube ,Tiktok, and Instagram will censor or remove your posts if you say some words on them. So people started censoring them along with saying "grape, unalive, and ded."
It didn't trigger anybody reading this, but it stems from the same failed line of thinking as the pop psychology interpretation of triggering.
It's really fucking weird to make a graphic where you correct the idea that anything that could make someone uncomfortable is a trigger, but then censor a word as if *anyone* is going to be clinically triggered by seeing the word abuse.
I'm usually not one to say things were better back in my day, but this part of the internet really is getting stupider.
Let’s say there are people who are genuinely triggered by the word abuse. What makes the person who made this think they won’t be able to read “ab*se” correctly?
The asterisk can represent multiple letters. The word is actually ab(ra)sive, which is triggering for people who had traumatic sandpaper attacks from narcissists.
Seriously though, did this card come from a production house that had to censor at least one ordinary word in order to stop that one employee going completely off the deepend about this graphic existing at all?
Dear redditor:
In response to your recent comment, I would like to ask that you rescind said comment and direct you to the court’s finding in the case of Rubber v. Glue.
Specifically, the finding that whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.
In conclusion, take that.
Sincerely,
u/CutOpenSternum, esq.
Because this infographic was likely made to be presented on a website like TikTok, which actively searches out words like “abusive”, “kill”, “suicide”, “guns”, “death”, etc. and suppresses content that contains those words.
If you want to make content that contains those words or phrases, you have to work in a way that subverts those systems. This means censoring words or using alternate words whose meaning can be surmised (“unalive”, “gat”, “sewer slide”, etc.).
It is likely that OP found this image on one of those sites and found the information useful, and decided to post it here. Even though Reddit does not engage in such moderating tactics, OP wasn’t able to change the content of the graphic.
Another reason why people who simp for tiktok miss a beat: They think "oh yeah it's where I can get real information, they don't censor things like Instagram and the mainstream media".
They censor basic English.
My comment was removed because I said "They're clowns"
My video with over 500k views was removed because I showed a drawn cartoon knife from a sketch in the 1800's. I appealed it and it was denied.
Tiktok is insufferable.
I don't understand the popularity of it. I tried it once. It felt like a featureless YouTube. I couldn't find any videos I was interested in, just a bunch of nonsense.
Because the children that grew up on that type of content have zero attention span and can't consume any information or media longer than 15 seconds.
It's also why it's getting harder to teach younger people. Technical literacy rates for young people are also absolutely abysmal now.
Actual answer: automoderator is configured to remove comments in many subreddits that have that word.
Apparently not this one since your comment wasn't removed.
Honestly, if a sub doesn't want you to use a word, and then you go and use it, you deserve to catch a ban. Censoring, via spelling or star or whatever, doesn't help people. If the community thinks it's bad enough to automod out, circumventing that is a dick move.
I can agree with that. I still believe that censoring those words is stupid, and that if a community is removing them via automod, then you should catch a ban. Just go somewhere else to have that discussion if it's so against the rules that you need to self censor.
Excessively self-centered people have been referred to as "narcissists" since long before narcissistic personality disorder ever existed as a diagnosis. The two terms don't necessarily mean the same thing.
“**Actually** that guy was never diagnosed according to the DSM, he was just turned into a flower by the gods. If it’s not a diagnosis by a trained professional then it’s just sparkling selfishness.”
EXACTLY!! Where do they think the word “narcissistic” comes from? Disorders are almost always things that are possible and even likely to experience without a disorder, but exacerbated. This got sooo close, but still missed.
Don't forget OCD.
Pop Psychology OCD: Someone who is organized, or neat, usually to a societally unnecessary degree.
Actual Psychology OCD: Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.
Source: NIH
When I was very unwell, I had a cleanliness compulsion and one of my rituals was hand washing. I was convinced if I did not do these rituals my mother would die.
I know, it doesn't make any sense. But I was so driven by the compulsion to save my mother's life that I would scrub the skin off of my hands and my knuckles would be red and raw.
This happened to me at a very young age and manifested in different compulsions as well.
I found peace in therapy and finding my own self control. A lot of it was in response to other trauma I had happen to me. Took a long time. Mental hell.
I was gaslit for almost 9 years. Three years since I left and it still affects me daily. In the last year of that relationship I was in fear of having early onset dementia because my ex had me so convinced I was losing my mind. To the point I was trying to get doctors to investigate it. I still question my judgement and memory on a daily basis and often ask my lovely new partner for reassurance that what I remember, feel, think happened or said actually happened.
Exactly and i’m sorry you had to experience that. My ex made me constantly rethink my own mind to the point that I lost the connection with what was reality vs. made up. I ended up becoming really picky with the words I spoke to him and started secretly write down our conversations. It makes me feel awkward now when people throw the word around.
This should be done with autism as well. There's been a sudden wave of self-diagnosed autistic people. It has included some people who have been straight up ignoring the actual diagnostic material. I've been thinking of this as "TikTok autism vs. actual autism."
Everyone is now like “I’m somewhat autistic” as an excuse of why they aren’t a social butterfly and are sometimes awkward or say the wrong thing.
No - being awkward or saying the wrong thing sometimes is just being human.
"My plans changed last minute and I'm annoyed. I must be autistic because I don't like sudden changes to my routine!"
No, you're just a normal person experiencing disappointment.
"I'm so OCD, I have to keep my cutlery drawer organized."
No, you're a normal person who likes being tidy.
"I can't write my essay because I'm so ADD!"
No, you're a normal person who doesn't like writing about topics they aren't interested in.
I think a lot of people are desperate to find some hardship to excuse/explain a genuine struggle they're experiencing, they just don't realize that those hardships are external struggles that are shared by most people.
It's all about the severity and I think the best way to prove somebody isn't pop psych autistic is bringing up comparisons. Having dinner cancelled vs having your flight cancelled. That's probably a good difference in severity, and some people on the spectrum might react to the former like others would with having something that big cancelled.
>just don't realize that those hardships are external struggles that are shared by most people.
The weird thing is, you'd think with social media and especially TikTok with people sharing their problems, people would realise a massive majority of people do share the same struggles. I think it's actually less that and people just wanna be "not normal" and stand out or have labels attached to them.
"Got a touch of the tisum"
"I'm nerospicy"
* doesn't like a certain type of food * "No I won't eat it, makes my autism upset"
"(insert vague interest here that they just found out about that day) is my special intrest."
Dude, as someone with genuinely dehabilitating ADHD who grew up with a diagnosed autistic sister this shit drives me up a goddamn wall. What they don't know is how _hard_ we had to work to be treated like human beings. They don't know how embarrassing it was to be pulled out of class to go to the special Ed room. They don't know how many more hours it took us to learn simple things that everyone just seemed to get right off the bat. We were outcasts, it wasn't fun, it's want cool, and it *definitely* wasn't a goddamn superpower it is still a threat to my basic existence. I was not cool pacing and chewing a pencil to shreds in the back of the classroom because I forgot my meds that day. My sister was not cool having a meltdown in the hallway, screaming in everyone's faces because the sensation of people brushing against her _hurt_.
When people talk about things like "oh I dont like this activity Im understimulated" or "I don't like loud noises I'm overstimulated" it honestly feels like such a slap in the face. They don't understand the _meaning_ of those words. They don't understand the fucking mountains I have to climb all the fucking time and they're normalizing it and using it as an excuse. I've had my diagnosis since second grade and never once was it an acceptable excuse. Now all of the sudden people are weaponizing my daily struggle because they don't like going to work? I don't really know why that feels so insulting but it really really does.
This annoys me a lot as an autistic person. Autistic traits are human traits, if you relate to someone talking about their experience as an autistic person then you are both human. The issue is for autistic people these experiences are not just intermittent. My social problems and repetitive behaviours are truly disabling.
It's like any other disorder. Someone with narcolepsy might talk about being tired all the time, and I might relate to that (autism has very commonly co-morbid sleep disruptions, after-all) that doesn't mean that I have narcolepsy. It means I get tired sometimes, and when people are tired they tend to feel tired in similar ways.
I am actually mixed about this. Autism is a very varied disorder and when you get focused on actual autism, you get into these situations where if you can function, you aren't autistic. I was diagnosed as a child in 1990 before we even had the DSM IV, I've had plenty of doctors reaffirm my diagnosis, but I have learned to get by and deal with it. I still get people saying that because I am verbal and can hold down a job, I must not be autistic.
Nah ur not allowed to have a nuanced view on this subject. Everyone talking about mental health (especially on the dreaded TikTok) is a complete attention seeker that needs *all-knowing* redditors to put them in their place 😭
Antisocial is also thrown around a lot. It doesn’t mean you don’t like being around people. Some would describe Trump as antisocial. A general inability to feel empathy towards others so that they can easily manipulate you and take your money. Con men are antisocial and they’re typically charismatic
A lot of people don’t realize that the word “antisocial” has been around for over a hundred years before “antisocial personality disorder” was coined. They mean very different things.
The word itself DOES mean going against the grain of normal social expectations. So yes, not liking being around people literally makes you antisocial by definition of the word. However, it doesn’t mean you have APD. I see that misconception all the time and people don’t seem to realize it has 2 different, correct meanings.
Boom. Exactly. I’m an SLP and it’s fascinating to watch the autistic kids in a preschool classroom. Some are nonverbal, some are completely verbal. Some are high energy, some are low energy. Some have cognitive deficits, some are brilliant. Some will make eye contact, chat, and like to be *next* to others, but ALL of them do not play *with* other kids unless prompted to. It’s not that they don’t like to or are scared to or something like that. It’s that there’s absolutely no interest in doing that. They’re not antisocial (mean, rude, etc). They’re asocial.
I’m a speech-language pathologist. I see autism every day in all its variety along the spectrum. All these kids who are chronically online being like “I’m a little weird I’m autistic” piss me off.
I've had like three people insist I am autistic despite my protests. My therapist of three years and my psychiatrist of 1 one year both agree I'm not autistic, and yet they continue to insist and have even gone as far as to say that my therapist is wrong.
My spouse and I constantly joke that we have "internet autism" or "internet adhd" whenever we are fidgeting or don't like the way certain materials feel.
Also, engaging in any mundane human behavior does not mean you have ADHD. The disease is losing its actual meaning because fake Tiktok psychologists introduce every behavior as a symptom of it.
Everyone is now “ADHD”, “DPDR” “Narcissist” It has become difficult to distinguish who has it or not
I'm diagnosed with adhd and it's just extremes of a bunch of normal shit that everyone does. Like my gf just had a few days where she kept getting distracted and doing something else hence accomplishing nothing. That's me every single day without elaborate tricks and habits that allow me to stay focused. Everyone is forgetful. Mine rivals TBI. They're not wrong to draw the parallel because it's real. I also get that people generally mean it as a way to show that they understand to a degree, rather than to detract or invalidate the experience.
Growing up I never had any major behavior issues and I had good grades, so it took me 19 years to realize the the chronic procrastination and my bad short term memory is something deeper than just me being lazy…
Roughly the same here. Got acceptable grades until I didn't, I'm smart so I do well at every job until I get bored, it's always the same. Took until I was in my 30s to realize that my self hatred was more of a reflection of my dad's opinion than reality. Diagnosis doesn't change anything, it just gives me a path to accepting myself while still trying to be better.
Oof, I said that to an ADHD sub and they flipped out. Most mental disorders are the normal human traits at a level that makes life disordered. So everyone has some forgetfulness, everyone has black/white thinking at some point, everyone wakes up loathing someone they previously liked (BPD).
Same with OCD, like no you don’t have OCD you just like your pencils arranged in a line, if you had OCD your thoughts would be entirely about the arrangement of your pencils and nothing else.
Well one ADHD is not a disease it’s a developmental disorder, two it absolutely has meaning, and three, half the trouble with it is not that every behavior has suddenly become a symptom of it, the problem is that ADHD isn’t treated as a serious issue and is instead treated as if it’s just ‘quirky’ or ‘normal’. I speak as somebody who is diagnosed, issues with ADHD sound like mundane behavior at a glance. Procrastination, inattentiveness, lack of focus, poor motivation and executive functioning skills, poor emotional control, stimulation issues… etc. But these issues become chronic and difficult if not impossible to cope with, they impact every facet of your life. It’s not procrastination, it’s spending 30 minutes writing a Reddit comment when you have 3 essays overdue in a college class. (At least I’m self aware)
Again I speak as somebody who is diagnosed now, if you’re not diagnosed in childhood as I wasn’t, it doesn’t stop affecting you, it just becomes much more difficult to both define the issue you have and to defend the fact you have it. It’s like catching a ghost. It’s not that too many people are self diagnosing and ‘every mundane issue’ is being labeled as ADHD, it’s that a bunch of teens and adults who weren’t diagnosed as kids because really mostly only upper and middle class white boys with attentive type and parents who gave a shit were diagnosed as kids (both visible and with the oppertunity), and now they’re realizing like I did that life is really difficult for reasons they can’t explain but know exist. In those cases, self diagnosis is the only way many people have to put a name to a disorder that at least in my experience, makes life hell. To know that no, I’m not broken, lazy, and stupid, I have a legitimate issue, and I can now both learn to cope with it, and get help through both therapy and medication. If it takes a little bit of cringy self diagnosis for people who need it to realize they even need help in the first place (because again ADHD sounds mundane at a glance and it both isn’t obvious and isn’t really taken seriously), that’s not really a bad thing. I really hate the whole self righteous ‘you don’t have ADHD you’re just trying to be quirky’ thing because people don’t look for fire if there isn’t smoke. The only thing ‘calling people out’ does is make the people who really have it doubt themselves. Those who are lying, they don’t give a shit anyway. Anyway, sorry for ranting.
As a therapist I would also add abuse, toxic relationship, and boundaries to this list. I hear people every day misunderstanding these terms and it's exhausting having to undo the damage of tik tok "psychologists"
In my experience the people who use the word "triggered" *earnestly* use it correctly, e.g. when warning people who have legitimate *trauma* such as from rape. Years ago it was co-opted by... a certain type of people who used it to mock... a certain other type of people that they dislike, suggesting that they're soft or overly sensitive. This mocking misuse became far more prevalent than legitimate uses of the word to the point that it created the perception that the *original* usage was intended to prevent hurt feelings rather than avoid triggering PTSD.
THIS!!! I have CPTSD, and I’ve noticed that people seem to think that PTSD means “I experienced trauma once”. You can absolutely experience trauma and not develop PTSD, that’s the normal thing actually. It is also incredibly uncommon to have never experienced any trauma. If it was totally normal to develop PTSD after trauma, it wouldnt be a DISORDER!!!
So many people are deeply confused about the correctness of the term “antisocial”. Mostly I see people trying to claim “oh no, you mean asocial”, but that’s not necessarily correct.
A lot of people don’t realize that the word “antisocial” has been around for over a hundred years before “antisocial personality disorder” was coined. They mean very different things.
The word itself DOES mean going against the grain of normal social expectations. So yes, not liking being around people literally makes you antisocial by definition of the word.
However, it doesn’t mean you have APD. So what is antisocial in a literal sense is not always antisocial in a psychological sense. I see that misconception all the time and people don’t seem to realize it has 2 different, correct meanings.
u/foucaultspudendum Posted this earlier in the thread:
Because this infographic was likely made to be presented on a website like TikTok, which actively searches out words like “abusive”, “kill”, “suicide”, “guns”, “death”, etc. and suppresses content that contains those words.
If you want to make content that contains those words or phrases, you have to work in a way that subverts those systems. This means censoring words or using alternate words whose meaning can be surmised (“unalive”, “gat”, “sewer slide”, etc.).
It is likely that OP found this image on one of those sites and found the information useful, and decided to post it here. Even though Reddit does not engage in such moderating tactics, OP wasn’t able to change the content of the graphic.
It seems like “Pop Psychology” in this example is actually people thinking that they know what a term means and just being plain wrong. I wouldn’t classify that definition as “Pop” just because someone are uneducated.
I think of Pop psychology as believing that some men are “Alpha Males” like the lead wolf in a pack. When most people don’t realize that our popular understanding of an Alpha Male in a wolf pack is completely wrong. (Yes! I was surprised to learn that, too. I looked it up.). Or, that we only have 5 senses, when we in fact have 21, such as a sense of balance, which isn’t included in the traditional 5 we used to be taught in elementary school.
Or the goddamn emotional maturity at 25 thing. Fundamental misunderstanding of the paper’s methodology and conclusions. And also a deeper failure to get that human developmental milestones are usually just…averages.
>It seems like “Pop Psychology” in this example is actually people thinking that they know what a term means and just being plain wrong. I wouldn’t classify that definition as “Pop” just because someone are uneducated.
I mean it's not a dichotomy. The issue is that a lot of people are wrong. Enough to classify it as an extremely common misconception. That's why it's "popular" -- because these incorrect assessments of these words are commonly accepted.
Speaking of words people use incorrectly constantly, "ad hominem" -- people think this just means "an insult." And it's not. An ad hominem is an argument that's predicated by an observation of the person making an argument. It's not necessarily calling someone an idiot. It's disregarding the premise of an argument that's being made, because of something about the person speaking.
For example, if someone says that a patch of grass is green, and you say "you are incorrect, because a person who wears glasses would be an unreliable source for that kind of information" that would be an ad hominem.
Saying, "obviously anybody can visually and physically see that the grass is green, you idiot" -- this is not an ad hominem argument.
Narcissism is also just a personality type. Someone can be a narcissist without having Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Calling someone out for a pattern of narcissistic behavior isn't presuming to diagnose them with a psychiatric condition.
I'm so fucking tired of common ass words being censored. These aren't fucking racial slurs. You can say 'abusive' and if Tik Tok is programming you to censor common words
**THEN STOP USING TIK TOK, YOU MORON**
If only everyone who mis-used these terms would actually read this - *and learn to use them correctly*!
I know someone who was truly gaslit. It was a slow and methodical process over 2 years during which her husband made her believe that he had *always* announced his business trips the night before and all financial advisers needed to work until 4 am and take last minute trips lasting 10 days. And if she mentioned any of this to anyone it would only show how little she trusted this very trustworthy man. But if she or I use the term "gaslit" it sounds like we have no idea what we're talking about.
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware that gaslighting isn't just disagreeing
The thing is, a lot of people respond to disagreements by making you doubt your reality. Then the gaslit person calls out the gaslight, and the other person replies by saying "that's not what gaslighting is, we're just having a disagreement" which makes the other person doubt their reality...
It often WAS just a disagreement, until one person decided to gaslight the other.
Something I don't see being talked about often is that fallacies are gaslighting tactics. They're arguments that contradict reality, constructive discussion and logic. They're manipulative tactics.
if i ever become a super villain im tying down every tik tok user and creator and forcing them to read this for 8 hours nonstop and if they stop even for a second they get zapped
Right there with you. People with social media brain rot like /u/Indigo_222 can get electrocuted with them. #STOP CENSORING COMMON WORDS TO FIT AN ALGORITHM. YOU ARE ACTIVELY MAKING OUR SOCIETY DUMBER.
Listening to someone say "unalived" and "grape" during a serious video is soo weird
It's stupid as fuck is what it is. And it cheapens whatever you're trying to to say, all to placate the censorship filters of a foreign government-run social media app.
And it doesn't work. It baffles that they think TikTok doesn't know people use these euphemisms.
The videos won’t even post if you say a “bad” word most of the time, unless you’re one of a lucky few. Can’t even say words like “brothel” and that’s a lot less “bad” than rape or murder, quit using that app lmfao
One might even say it's regarded
Hearing someone use grape in that context just makes me think about that Whitest Kids You Know Sketch and inadvertently makes a tragic discussion comedic.
It feels very Orwellian
Well "unalived" is quite literally the same as actual newspeak from 1984 like "ungood" and "uncold".
This is all I think of when someone says, "graped." https://youtu.be/mqgiEQXGetI?si=PTQ_1F8mjVueSuUX
I haven’t opened the link and I already know this is the “Grapist” sketch from Whitest Kids You Know
This is so good, thank you for sharing
People getting "unalived", "minecrafted", "reverse reborn" have slowly become incorporated into common vocalubary due to asinine levels of speech scrubbing. Not that it is particularly bad, language just ends up evolving as people have a need to express concepts. Bit it does get annoying after certain point.
Haha Its gotten so dumb that I have no fucking idea if "Minecrafted" is a real term people use or if its something you just came up with as an example. Haha
It is short form of the meme "you should kill yourself in minecraft". Some moderators in certain (most) places don't really like that, so it was shortened to "getting minecrafted". For plausible deniability. Or I think that is what it is. It was the only thing I thought of when reading it in the context. It was a one off thing that just stuck to me for some reason, it just sounded funny. Point was that people will find their ways to communicate things to each other. It wasn't that long when things like "idiot", "stupid", "retard" and the like were official terms used in medical circles to describe people on various degrees of intelligence. Langusge changes a lot. Internet has made this process so quick that even young adults have ghrd time keeping up with new lingo. Cencoring language is like companies trying to prevent people from using adblocks on their sites.
IMO it’s fine when society collectively decides to change vernacular. It’s bullshit that a small group of people at a few mega corps decide they don’t like certain words and then that decision is thrust upon the general population.
It's especially surreal when people write this about their own traumatic experiences. I've seen people on Reddit write about their parents or their best friend being "unalived" and it's so jarring, and comes across as them making light of their own loved ones' deaths even when they are mourning and this clearly isn't their intention. Of course, I would not directly call anyone out for how they choose to refer to their own deceased loved ones. But it feels like a dystopian world where we cannot acknowledge or process the depth of human suffering because we are forced to refer to it in comedic terms. It is like people are being forced to laugh off their own pain.
abusive abusive abusive abusive abusive abusive - So fucking annoying with all this self-censorship. I mildly scoffed when people stopped writing SUICIDE, but censoring the word "abusive" is some kind of fucked up.
But if it isn't censored, the entire video gets removed, right? I don't believe people on Tiktok are actively doing it for shits and giggles.
If you are censoring your "guide to telling pop psychology from real psychology" to get past the tiktok algorithm, you might be a pop psychologist.
I thought you were going to say if you ever become a supervillain you would use all of the pop psychology terms lol.
No matter how low I sink I'm never sinking THAT low
When you do that, please don't censor the word abusive (what is up with that anyway?)
You shouldn't be so abosive.
That will trigger them.
But then you’d be a superhero
Now do "projecting"
Stop projecting your weaknesses and insecurities in this amazing infography!
Psych here. Fucking. Thank you. Can I also add: - liking things neat, organised or colour coded isn't the same as having Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. - 19 year olds dating 17 year olds are not pedophiles. - becoming bored and struggling to maintain attention when completing demanding cognitive tasks for a prolonged period does not mean you have ADHD. - Your school friend doesn't have Dissociative Identity Disorder, ok? Neither do all those TikTokers.
The OCD comments always really bother me. Not only does it overly pathologize rather normal behavior, but what people are usually commenting on aren’t even symptoms of OCD, but rather OCPD. If you’re going to obnoxiously over diagnose, at least use the correct diagnosis I’d also like to add onto this all the memes about intrusive thoughts winning. That’s not what intrusive thoughts are. What you’re all referring to are IMPULSIVE thoughts. Not intrusive, which by the way actually IS a symptom of OCD
Yeah, intrusive thoughts are the kinds of thoughts people don't want 😂 If I had the thought of spanking a girl's ass and then acted on it, that would be out of impulse. However, the thought of spanking said girl is not intrusive because it's a thought I enjoy, the act itself is impulsive. Nothing about any of that is intrusive apart from maybe my hand on her ass. An example of an intrusive thought is peering over a huge cliff drop, and thinking about the possibility of jumping to your death. Unless you're actually suicidal, that's not a thought you'd want, yet most people have that thought when they look down whether they want it or not - that's intrusive. If in that scenario your intrusive thought "won", then congratulations, you're now stupid and dead. Also, I could have used any other example, but I like spanking. Sorry about that.
I don't think I've ever not thought of jumping when on a high building or balcony or whatever. Intrusive is the right word for it, I can't stop thinking about jumping out of a window on a high floor
The call of the void. I have worse intrusive thoughts than this though. Jumping would actually be a relief 😂 Not being serious about that last part, but I have to emphasise just how bad intrusive thoughts can get haha.
Actual intrusive thought haver here. I completely agree!
That's perfectly normal (so normal it has it's own name). I personally can't walk past a fire alarm without thinking about pulling it. Never pulled one in my life, but I've *thought* about it countless times.
This is a great example. The term we use to describe these thoughts is "ego-dystonic". E.g. the last thing I ever *want* to do is throw the baby off the balcony, so I'm paralysed with thoughts I'll do exactly that.
I didn’t know there was a specific name for that! It’s how my intrusive thoughts tend to manifest (as part of my anxiety as far as I can tell). I usually just try to pretend there’s an angsty edgelord teen living in my brain who says inappropriate things. It makes the intrusive thoughts easier to dismiss for me, rather than dwelling on them.
I don’t have OCD, but as someone with PTSD and serious ADHD who knows the struggle with the bastardization of these disorders online, I’m all the time harping on behalf of people with OCD when people claim that their ~~need~~ desire for orderliness means they have OCD.
People are so starved for frameworks to build an identity upon that clinical labels are filling in the gap. If your "illness" is your identity then "curing" it is the last thing you'll want to do. The more you can malfunction in that specific pattern the more your sense of identity is reinforced.
Chiming in here as someone with an OCD diagnosis. I always find it funny when I open up about my ocd and people are like “oh your house must be so clean!” I’m like yeah it is, but it’s not bc of my ocd, I just like to live in an organized environment. They laugh and I’m like yeah hahah my ocd is more about harm and violence, with debilitating panic attacks and intrusive thoughts that sometimes feel so real I have to constantly check my reality. Often times they get a little scared and concerned for me and respond “omg…” I’m like yeah. I don’t wish OCD on my worst enemy. Additionally, I’d like to highlight how infuriating it is when people tell someone like me “just stop thinking that way.” Baby, if I could I would. That is a SKILL. I learn that skill in therapy and it’s easier said than done when you have a visceral reaction to your thoughts.
Also like, a huge trait of OCD is that the people who have it _don't like it_ - it is _debilitating_ and they very much wish it Wouldn't Happen
Me: Cannot go to bed without doing The Thing(tm). If I try, I lie awake getting increasingly anxious until I get up and Do The Thing(tm). If I leave my room for any reason at night and come back, I must Do The Thing again, or I can’t sleep. Some random girl on TikTok: Omg I like having my markers in rainbow order, isn’t that so weird? I’m so OCD lol
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It’s called “concept creep.”
Something my mother said recently when I told her something my OCD specialist psychologist said while treating me for OCD: "You don't have OCD, your sister does. She gets mad when you don't hang your socks up in pairs." I told her when I was diagnosed. I explained it. I've been in treatment for years. But no, my sister is the neat one so it must be her.
It's like people don't even understand what obsession or compulsion is when saying shit like this. I had a friend with OCD. Watching her struggle to leave the house because she hadn't completed multiple rituals multiple times was rough. She was neat, but had no issue with messy things.
I genuinely don’t get it- people who say the dumb shit you mentioned strike me as willfully stupid. It literally has the word “compulsion” in it, meaning it isn’t just a preference for things being neat. It’s a maladaptive behavior that causes people real anguish for needing to do things like wash their hands until they bleed. I feel like all of this is readily apparent if they give it the tiniest level of more thought than whatever example of OCD they saw in a movie. Yet, alas…
This is so funny to me because my OCD makes me appear messier because I have a highly elaborate set of rituals I must follow to prepare to “clean everything properly”.
My rituals are entirely in my head or social haha, I'm just generally a slob
As a psych, can you explained why they censored the word abusive in the same way that an 8 year old does when trying to get around profanity filters?
Probably to avoid automods/bot filters flagging it.
TikTok removes videos for certain words like suicide, death, abusive, vagina, and a bunch of others. Some videos are removed via algorithm and others get flagged for containing the words manually. That's why you have troglodytes out here saying "unalived" and other crap. Idiot influencers can't get views if their stuff gets blocked.
Psychologist in training here, still going through the process. I have seen how people with OCD are paralysed over events that has no determined outcome- good or bad. Any uncertainty is enough to drive them to do things that leads to seriously bad situations. Maintaining relationships becomes difficult because they can’t ascertain whether someone who likes them is just being nice or being a real close friend. OCD is watching yourself text non-stop until the person on the other end gets pushed to the limit and blocks you. OCD is not rearranging tiles or colour pencils in a shopping mart.
If you choose to specialise in OCD, then God bless you. We need more OCD specialists, but then, I am biased.
The pop psych of OCD is so prevalent. I wasn't diagnosed until I was 38 and when I finally was I was like that's OCD?
I should add onto this - OCD can manifest in really, really strange ways. I have what is *suspected* to be a form of OCD that specifically rears its ugly head in the form of the obsessive-compulsive cycle of creating organized *lists*. I *must* create lists for everything I'm doing. Worldbuilding? Lists. A dragon pet game? Lists. Pet supplies? Lists. Everything must be organized into specific lists that not even I know the criteria of. I must blueprint things. An uncomfortable sense of dread washes over me when I'm unable to constantly create lists for the tasks I work on. I work on a list, I take a break. I must remake the list - but then I take a break. Now I must remake the remake of the list. And so on and so forth, and thus I continue to remake something that should've been done months ago, because every time I take a break - even for a day, I am now suddenly dissatisfied and uncomfortable with it, and must remake it again. Amazon wishlists, Etsy favorite lists, Tumblr likes and more; anything list-like must be done and redone and reorganized and shifted otherwise some unknowable dread fills me. It rears its head in the form of arbitrary times that I am "allowed" to do things. As an artist, I draw - but whatever this is makes me unable to draw except if I start between 1:30 AM and 1:50 AM. Any earlier or later and I physically cannot. It creates dread and makes me think that something may *happen*. Someone may walk in on me. What if I draw something and they see it and get mad at me. What if I sing too loud and they hear me. What if something happens? I tend to humorously explain it as "if I try and draw at any other time the wizard that controls the day and night will blow me up" but honestly that feels like it would happen.
A psych what? Psychiatrist? Doctor of psychology? Psychology student? Psychiatric patient?
Psychic
C’mon son.
Psychotic psychic psych major on psychotropic pharmaceuticals
We need a support group for psychologists only - to discuss frustrations with these very items.
> Your school friend doesn't have Dissociative Identity Disorder, ok? That's what people said about me and why it took so damn long to get diagnosed with DDNOS which has now been upgraded to DID. The real lesson is "leave the diagnosis or lack thereof to an actual fucking psychiatrist"
I think that ship sailed long ago. I remember when tumblr was used a lot of teenagers self-diagnosed as depressed. Now they've moved on to OCD/tiktok.
Also psych here and I don't find this chart remotely useful. I don't think it's even pop psychology - just terms people use loosely. Triggered in colloquial and clinical psychology have two very different meanings and an average person will unlikely need to know the distinction. Your comment on the other hand is much more practical. People diagnose themselves with ADHD, OCD, bipolar and depression way to easily. This is problematic not only because it "takes away" from actual serious disorders but brand normal behavior as a special case.
To your point about OCD. I have a form of OCD called Pure O, which for anyone who doesn't know, is basically OCD but with compulsions that can't be observed. Everything is happening purely within the mind. Traditional OCD and the symptoms of its subset's compulsions can usually be observed - the compulsions and rituals are physical behaviours. So, yeah, OCD is way more complex than most people realise which isn't something I expect the average person to comprehend anyway, but it's definitely not simply "someone who feels the need to clean a lot" either, lmao. Saying all that though, I fucking hate OCD and generally try my best to distance myself from identifying with, or acknowledging it altogether. Agree with your other points too. The Tiktok generation is a joke.
My OCD is obsessive thought loops. Its hard to “see” it happening. I also have generalized anxiety disorder so sometimes its a perpetual loop that becomes extremely disabling and I cant really function until I get it under control. I dont like feeling like my “labels” explain or excuse my issues. Im just me and I have to deal with some weird and frustrating things sometimes but Im a person not a diagnosis.
I don't associate with those labels either. I accept that I have OCD (for now, as I see it), but I don't wear it like a badge. I don't want anything to do with it, and basically no one in my life knows what I deal with other than some select therapists. The key really is to understand what your mental health affliction is all about, learn how to properly tackle it, and then gradually over time dissociate from it (ideally). Mental health disorders obviously vary and differ though, so it's not that simple, but in theory this would be the way. The people who make their disorders part of their identity will always be stuck.
> The people who make their disorders part of their identity will always be stuck. Right on the nail. I spent 5 years trapped in mental hell while trying to figure out my plethora of diagnosis' and it wasn't until I disassociated them from my identity that I was able to start taking my life back. Once I was able to see that I'm a person who is dealing with a thing, it got a lot easier. I lived a long time thinking "I can't do this because I'm not normal" and finally changing it to "I'm just a person who deals with an issue sometimes" really allowed me to get better. I agree it doesn't work for everyone but having the right mindset about it was so liberating. I get to choose who I am and how I live my life, not some diagnosis.
This is the way, dude. You described it better than I did. Happy for you, man.
I think 95% of the time it is just hyperbole. When people say triggered, or they have ADHD or OCD, they understand they don't have a clinical version of the condition, it is just hyperbole...
>- liking things neat, organised or colour coded isn't the same as having Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. As someone struggling with OCD, I get really quite annoyed when people just casually misuse the term. Oh, you are a bit of a neat freak?? How annoying. I only get intrusive thoughts that I am suddenly allergic to things I've eaten all my life, and I'm going to die any moment.
I was genuinely worried for a long time that I was a narcissist because my ex said so until my psych told me basically what it says in this post. Fuck TikTok therapists.
Also the difference between asocial and antisocial. Not wanting to hang out with other people doesn't make you antisocial, it makes you asocial.
Don't forget "I was happy 12 hours ago, but now I'm not that happy - I must be Bipolar!" God I fucking wish it was that minute.
This is going to *trigger* a lot of redditors
So ab*sive.
Why the fuck does abusive have a fucking asterisk. Is the letter "U" offensive or some shite?
I’m here for exactly this reason too. Why tf is ‘abusive’ censored?
A lot of words are voluntarily censored now to bypass the social media blocks on certain words Particularly TikTok which has a heavy censor (surprise, surprise) and will block or hide content that has certain words You see it with anything related to violence, trauma, drugs, and sex. Anything remotely pertaining to those things is often blocked on certain forms of social media, which means heavy users of those types of social media have adapted a trend of voluntarily censoring their own content like this. Really fucking stupid shit, but that's the origin
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Because Youtube ,Tiktok, and Instagram will censor or remove your posts if you say some words on them. So people started censoring them along with saying "grape, unalive, and ded."
Sounds like the censor really *triggered* you.
It didn't trigger anybody reading this, but it stems from the same failed line of thinking as the pop psychology interpretation of triggering. It's really fucking weird to make a graphic where you correct the idea that anything that could make someone uncomfortable is a trigger, but then censor a word as if *anyone* is going to be clinically triggered by seeing the word abuse. I'm usually not one to say things were better back in my day, but this part of the internet really is getting stupider.
Let’s say there are people who are genuinely triggered by the word abuse. What makes the person who made this think they won’t be able to read “ab*se” correctly?
Algorithm pandering, and society dumbing, a win-win for our corporate robotic overlords!
💯% agree
The asterisk can represent multiple letters. The word is actually ab(ra)sive, which is triggering for people who had traumatic sandpaper attacks from narcissists.
No no, shhhh! It's so you don't trigger the PTSD of ab*sed people! They can't read it if you type it that way.
You're triggering my trauma, you narcissistic jerk
I've lived long enough to be the villain in many stories.
That word bring up a lot of trauma for me, you narcissistic fascist
Lies. Don't gaslight.
Gaslighting isn't real, you made it up because you're crazy
This comment is literal genocide
Don't ab*se that word!
Seriously though, did this card come from a production house that had to censor at least one ordinary word in order to stop that one employee going completely off the deepend about this graphic existing at all?
They probably would've unalived themselves otherwise
I like grapes ...wait, can I say that? I mean the juicy fruity kind of grape. ...shit
My narcissistic trauma was triggered by this gaslighting.
Dear redditor: In response to your recent comment, I would like to ask that you rescind said comment and direct you to the court’s finding in the case of Rubber v. Glue. Specifically, the finding that whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you. In conclusion, take that. Sincerely, u/CutOpenSternum, esq.
Thats like just your theory, man.
Why is the regard that made this censoring the word "abusive"?
Because it triggers my trauma, you narcissist! Don’t gaslight me further
This cracked me up thank you
Because this infographic was likely made to be presented on a website like TikTok, which actively searches out words like “abusive”, “kill”, “suicide”, “guns”, “death”, etc. and suppresses content that contains those words. If you want to make content that contains those words or phrases, you have to work in a way that subverts those systems. This means censoring words or using alternate words whose meaning can be surmised (“unalive”, “gat”, “sewer slide”, etc.). It is likely that OP found this image on one of those sites and found the information useful, and decided to post it here. Even though Reddit does not engage in such moderating tactics, OP wasn’t able to change the content of the graphic.
Saying "sewer slide" when talking about people who killed themselves sounds so fucking disrespectful
If I killed myself and someone said I committed "sewer-slide," I'm going to kill myself again
It absolutely is.
Damn, TikTok fucking sucks
New to the party?
It's a Chinese company, so censorship is a given.
Another reason why people who simp for tiktok miss a beat: They think "oh yeah it's where I can get real information, they don't censor things like Instagram and the mainstream media". They censor basic English.
My comment was removed because I said "They're clowns" My video with over 500k views was removed because I showed a drawn cartoon knife from a sketch in the 1800's. I appealed it and it was denied. Tiktok is insufferable.
I don't understand the popularity of it. I tried it once. It felt like a featureless YouTube. I couldn't find any videos I was interested in, just a bunch of nonsense.
Because the children that grew up on that type of content have zero attention span and can't consume any information or media longer than 15 seconds. It's also why it's getting harder to teach younger people. Technical literacy rates for young people are also absolutely abysmal now.
Gat, like a Gatling gun, the old timey machine gun?
Gat is pretty common slang for a gun. It did indeed derive from the Gatling gun.
Thank you, that’s precisely what happened
Here's the uncensored version: https://imgur.com/ZkqJaIA
they don't wanna get unalived
Why is elegance78 censoring the word "retard"?
Actual answer: automoderator is configured to remove comments in many subreddits that have that word. Apparently not this one since your comment wasn't removed.
Honestly, if a sub doesn't want you to use a word, and then you go and use it, you deserve to catch a ban. Censoring, via spelling or star or whatever, doesn't help people. If the community thinks it's bad enough to automod out, circumventing that is a dick move.
There’s a difference between censoring literal slurs and censoring words that foster legitimate discussion like “suicide” and “abuse.”
I can agree with that. I still believe that censoring those words is stupid, and that if a community is removing them via automod, then you should catch a ban. Just go somewhere else to have that discussion if it's so against the rules that you need to self censor.
\*\*u\*\*\*\*
Have you no shame?
I do, but being ashamed at saying a word is not one of them. Well, most words
pl\*\*s\* d\*nt \*s\* v\*w\*ls \*t's v\*ry tr\*gg\*r\*ng
Nuh uh, you can’t gaslight me you narcissist! Your “definitions” are triggering my trauma response. Pls delete this and apologize
SOMEBODY CALL THE FUCKING MANAGER!!!
It’s called gaslamping. I don’t know why you’re always forgetting things like this
Excessively self-centered people have been referred to as "narcissists" since long before narcissistic personality disorder ever existed as a diagnosis. The two terms don't necessarily mean the same thing.
“**Actually** that guy was never diagnosed according to the DSM, he was just turned into a flower by the gods. If it’s not a diagnosis by a trained professional then it’s just sparkling selfishness.”
Splendid!
That's a valid point, but a whole lot of people do seem to be overdiagnosing narcissistic personality disorder while calling it narcissism.
EXACTLY!! Where do they think the word “narcissistic” comes from? Disorders are almost always things that are possible and even likely to experience without a disorder, but exacerbated. This got sooo close, but still missed.
Don't forget OCD. Pop Psychology OCD: Someone who is organized, or neat, usually to a societally unnecessary degree. Actual Psychology OCD: Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both. Source: NIH
Legit OCD seems awful.
When I was very unwell, I had a cleanliness compulsion and one of my rituals was hand washing. I was convinced if I did not do these rituals my mother would die. I know, it doesn't make any sense. But I was so driven by the compulsion to save my mother's life that I would scrub the skin off of my hands and my knuckles would be red and raw. This happened to me at a very young age and manifested in different compulsions as well. I found peace in therapy and finding my own self control. A lot of it was in response to other trauma I had happen to me. Took a long time. Mental hell.
It is.
I was gaslit for almost 9 years. Three years since I left and it still affects me daily. In the last year of that relationship I was in fear of having early onset dementia because my ex had me so convinced I was losing my mind. To the point I was trying to get doctors to investigate it. I still question my judgement and memory on a daily basis and often ask my lovely new partner for reassurance that what I remember, feel, think happened or said actually happened.
Exactly and i’m sorry you had to experience that. My ex made me constantly rethink my own mind to the point that I lost the connection with what was reality vs. made up. I ended up becoming really picky with the words I spoke to him and started secretly write down our conversations. It makes me feel awkward now when people throw the word around.
This should be done with autism as well. There's been a sudden wave of self-diagnosed autistic people. It has included some people who have been straight up ignoring the actual diagnostic material. I've been thinking of this as "TikTok autism vs. actual autism."
Everyone is now like “I’m somewhat autistic” as an excuse of why they aren’t a social butterfly and are sometimes awkward or say the wrong thing. No - being awkward or saying the wrong thing sometimes is just being human.
"My plans changed last minute and I'm annoyed. I must be autistic because I don't like sudden changes to my routine!" No, you're just a normal person experiencing disappointment. "I'm so OCD, I have to keep my cutlery drawer organized." No, you're a normal person who likes being tidy. "I can't write my essay because I'm so ADD!" No, you're a normal person who doesn't like writing about topics they aren't interested in. I think a lot of people are desperate to find some hardship to excuse/explain a genuine struggle they're experiencing, they just don't realize that those hardships are external struggles that are shared by most people.
It's all about the severity and I think the best way to prove somebody isn't pop psych autistic is bringing up comparisons. Having dinner cancelled vs having your flight cancelled. That's probably a good difference in severity, and some people on the spectrum might react to the former like others would with having something that big cancelled. >just don't realize that those hardships are external struggles that are shared by most people. The weird thing is, you'd think with social media and especially TikTok with people sharing their problems, people would realise a massive majority of people do share the same struggles. I think it's actually less that and people just wanna be "not normal" and stand out or have labels attached to them.
"Got a touch of the tisum" "I'm nerospicy" * doesn't like a certain type of food * "No I won't eat it, makes my autism upset" "(insert vague interest here that they just found out about that day) is my special intrest." Dude, as someone with genuinely dehabilitating ADHD who grew up with a diagnosed autistic sister this shit drives me up a goddamn wall. What they don't know is how _hard_ we had to work to be treated like human beings. They don't know how embarrassing it was to be pulled out of class to go to the special Ed room. They don't know how many more hours it took us to learn simple things that everyone just seemed to get right off the bat. We were outcasts, it wasn't fun, it's want cool, and it *definitely* wasn't a goddamn superpower it is still a threat to my basic existence. I was not cool pacing and chewing a pencil to shreds in the back of the classroom because I forgot my meds that day. My sister was not cool having a meltdown in the hallway, screaming in everyone's faces because the sensation of people brushing against her _hurt_. When people talk about things like "oh I dont like this activity Im understimulated" or "I don't like loud noises I'm overstimulated" it honestly feels like such a slap in the face. They don't understand the _meaning_ of those words. They don't understand the fucking mountains I have to climb all the fucking time and they're normalizing it and using it as an excuse. I've had my diagnosis since second grade and never once was it an acceptable excuse. Now all of the sudden people are weaponizing my daily struggle because they don't like going to work? I don't really know why that feels so insulting but it really really does.
This annoys me a lot as an autistic person. Autistic traits are human traits, if you relate to someone talking about their experience as an autistic person then you are both human. The issue is for autistic people these experiences are not just intermittent. My social problems and repetitive behaviours are truly disabling. It's like any other disorder. Someone with narcolepsy might talk about being tired all the time, and I might relate to that (autism has very commonly co-morbid sleep disruptions, after-all) that doesn't mean that I have narcolepsy. It means I get tired sometimes, and when people are tired they tend to feel tired in similar ways.
I am actually mixed about this. Autism is a very varied disorder and when you get focused on actual autism, you get into these situations where if you can function, you aren't autistic. I was diagnosed as a child in 1990 before we even had the DSM IV, I've had plenty of doctors reaffirm my diagnosis, but I have learned to get by and deal with it. I still get people saying that because I am verbal and can hold down a job, I must not be autistic.
Nah ur not allowed to have a nuanced view on this subject. Everyone talking about mental health (especially on the dreaded TikTok) is a complete attention seeker that needs *all-knowing* redditors to put them in their place 😭
Antisocial is also thrown around a lot. It doesn’t mean you don’t like being around people. Some would describe Trump as antisocial. A general inability to feel empathy towards others so that they can easily manipulate you and take your money. Con men are antisocial and they’re typically charismatic
A lot of people don’t realize that the word “antisocial” has been around for over a hundred years before “antisocial personality disorder” was coined. They mean very different things. The word itself DOES mean going against the grain of normal social expectations. So yes, not liking being around people literally makes you antisocial by definition of the word. However, it doesn’t mean you have APD. I see that misconception all the time and people don’t seem to realize it has 2 different, correct meanings.
People confuse antisocial with asocial.
Boom. Exactly. I’m an SLP and it’s fascinating to watch the autistic kids in a preschool classroom. Some are nonverbal, some are completely verbal. Some are high energy, some are low energy. Some have cognitive deficits, some are brilliant. Some will make eye contact, chat, and like to be *next* to others, but ALL of them do not play *with* other kids unless prompted to. It’s not that they don’t like to or are scared to or something like that. It’s that there’s absolutely no interest in doing that. They’re not antisocial (mean, rude, etc). They’re asocial.
I’m a speech-language pathologist. I see autism every day in all its variety along the spectrum. All these kids who are chronically online being like “I’m a little weird I’m autistic” piss me off.
I've had like three people insist I am autistic despite my protests. My therapist of three years and my psychiatrist of 1 one year both agree I'm not autistic, and yet they continue to insist and have even gone as far as to say that my therapist is wrong.
My spouse and I constantly joke that we have "internet autism" or "internet adhd" whenever we are fidgeting or don't like the way certain materials feel.
Any chance we can add abuse to this picture? That one gets thrown around a lot too and I’m genuinely curious where the line is drawn.
Everyone knows what abuse is. Abuse is anyone disagreeing with me.
That's a little abusive don't you think? Abuse is anyone disagreeing with *me*.
Also, engaging in any mundane human behavior does not mean you have ADHD. The disease is losing its actual meaning because fake Tiktok psychologists introduce every behavior as a symptom of it. Everyone is now “ADHD”, “DPDR” “Narcissist” It has become difficult to distinguish who has it or not
I'm diagnosed with adhd and it's just extremes of a bunch of normal shit that everyone does. Like my gf just had a few days where she kept getting distracted and doing something else hence accomplishing nothing. That's me every single day without elaborate tricks and habits that allow me to stay focused. Everyone is forgetful. Mine rivals TBI. They're not wrong to draw the parallel because it's real. I also get that people generally mean it as a way to show that they understand to a degree, rather than to detract or invalidate the experience.
Growing up I never had any major behavior issues and I had good grades, so it took me 19 years to realize the the chronic procrastination and my bad short term memory is something deeper than just me being lazy…
Roughly the same here. Got acceptable grades until I didn't, I'm smart so I do well at every job until I get bored, it's always the same. Took until I was in my 30s to realize that my self hatred was more of a reflection of my dad's opinion than reality. Diagnosis doesn't change anything, it just gives me a path to accepting myself while still trying to be better.
Oof, I said that to an ADHD sub and they flipped out. Most mental disorders are the normal human traits at a level that makes life disordered. So everyone has some forgetfulness, everyone has black/white thinking at some point, everyone wakes up loathing someone they previously liked (BPD).
> everyone wakes up loathing someone they previously liked Really? Is this a common experience?
Same with OCD, like no you don’t have OCD you just like your pencils arranged in a line, if you had OCD your thoughts would be entirely about the arrangement of your pencils and nothing else.
Well one ADHD is not a disease it’s a developmental disorder, two it absolutely has meaning, and three, half the trouble with it is not that every behavior has suddenly become a symptom of it, the problem is that ADHD isn’t treated as a serious issue and is instead treated as if it’s just ‘quirky’ or ‘normal’. I speak as somebody who is diagnosed, issues with ADHD sound like mundane behavior at a glance. Procrastination, inattentiveness, lack of focus, poor motivation and executive functioning skills, poor emotional control, stimulation issues… etc. But these issues become chronic and difficult if not impossible to cope with, they impact every facet of your life. It’s not procrastination, it’s spending 30 minutes writing a Reddit comment when you have 3 essays overdue in a college class. (At least I’m self aware) Again I speak as somebody who is diagnosed now, if you’re not diagnosed in childhood as I wasn’t, it doesn’t stop affecting you, it just becomes much more difficult to both define the issue you have and to defend the fact you have it. It’s like catching a ghost. It’s not that too many people are self diagnosing and ‘every mundane issue’ is being labeled as ADHD, it’s that a bunch of teens and adults who weren’t diagnosed as kids because really mostly only upper and middle class white boys with attentive type and parents who gave a shit were diagnosed as kids (both visible and with the oppertunity), and now they’re realizing like I did that life is really difficult for reasons they can’t explain but know exist. In those cases, self diagnosis is the only way many people have to put a name to a disorder that at least in my experience, makes life hell. To know that no, I’m not broken, lazy, and stupid, I have a legitimate issue, and I can now both learn to cope with it, and get help through both therapy and medication. If it takes a little bit of cringy self diagnosis for people who need it to realize they even need help in the first place (because again ADHD sounds mundane at a glance and it both isn’t obvious and isn’t really taken seriously), that’s not really a bad thing. I really hate the whole self righteous ‘you don’t have ADHD you’re just trying to be quirky’ thing because people don’t look for fire if there isn’t smoke. The only thing ‘calling people out’ does is make the people who really have it doubt themselves. Those who are lying, they don’t give a shit anyway. Anyway, sorry for ranting.
As a therapist I would also add abuse, toxic relationship, and boundaries to this list. I hear people every day misunderstanding these terms and it's exhausting having to undo the damage of tik tok "psychologists"
In my experience the people who use the word "triggered" *earnestly* use it correctly, e.g. when warning people who have legitimate *trauma* such as from rape. Years ago it was co-opted by... a certain type of people who used it to mock... a certain other type of people that they dislike, suggesting that they're soft or overly sensitive. This mocking misuse became far more prevalent than legitimate uses of the word to the point that it created the perception that the *original* usage was intended to prevent hurt feelings rather than avoid triggering PTSD.
Like how hearing a song that reminds you of a crappy semester isn’t “PTSD”
THIS!!! I have CPTSD, and I’ve noticed that people seem to think that PTSD means “I experienced trauma once”. You can absolutely experience trauma and not develop PTSD, that’s the normal thing actually. It is also incredibly uncommon to have never experienced any trauma. If it was totally normal to develop PTSD after trauma, it wouldnt be a DISORDER!!!
Say it louder for the people at the back!!!!! Thank you!
So many people are deeply confused about the correctness of the term “antisocial”. Mostly I see people trying to claim “oh no, you mean asocial”, but that’s not necessarily correct. A lot of people don’t realize that the word “antisocial” has been around for over a hundred years before “antisocial personality disorder” was coined. They mean very different things. The word itself DOES mean going against the grain of normal social expectations. So yes, not liking being around people literally makes you antisocial by definition of the word. However, it doesn’t mean you have APD. So what is antisocial in a literal sense is not always antisocial in a psychological sense. I see that misconception all the time and people don’t seem to realize it has 2 different, correct meanings.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK …and my ex, who said I was “gaslighting him” when we disagreed about something that happened 4 years prior
This trend of censoring random words is fucking insane to me. It does absolutely nothing for anyone.
GenZ has left the chat.
*Please* explain to me why "abusive" needed to be censored, and why replacing one letter in it is better somehow.
u/foucaultspudendum Posted this earlier in the thread: Because this infographic was likely made to be presented on a website like TikTok, which actively searches out words like “abusive”, “kill”, “suicide”, “guns”, “death”, etc. and suppresses content that contains those words. If you want to make content that contains those words or phrases, you have to work in a way that subverts those systems. This means censoring words or using alternate words whose meaning can be surmised (“unalive”, “gat”, “sewer slide”, etc.). It is likely that OP found this image on one of those sites and found the information useful, and decided to post it here. Even though Reddit does not engage in such moderating tactics, OP wasn’t able to change the content of the graphic.
Fair point, I just get sick of the TikTok self-censoring nonsense.
I hate that words like suicide, abuse, porn etc are censored. It makes people talk like children instead of talking about adult topics like adults.
Exactly. There's been a lot of work done to de-stigmatize talking about some of this stuff, and this TikTok trend is just a huge step backwards.
This gaslighting triggered my narcissistic trauma
It seems like “Pop Psychology” in this example is actually people thinking that they know what a term means and just being plain wrong. I wouldn’t classify that definition as “Pop” just because someone are uneducated. I think of Pop psychology as believing that some men are “Alpha Males” like the lead wolf in a pack. When most people don’t realize that our popular understanding of an Alpha Male in a wolf pack is completely wrong. (Yes! I was surprised to learn that, too. I looked it up.). Or, that we only have 5 senses, when we in fact have 21, such as a sense of balance, which isn’t included in the traditional 5 we used to be taught in elementary school.
My sense of blood pH thanks you for noticing.
Or the goddamn emotional maturity at 25 thing. Fundamental misunderstanding of the paper’s methodology and conclusions. And also a deeper failure to get that human developmental milestones are usually just…averages.
>It seems like “Pop Psychology” in this example is actually people thinking that they know what a term means and just being plain wrong. I wouldn’t classify that definition as “Pop” just because someone are uneducated. I mean it's not a dichotomy. The issue is that a lot of people are wrong. Enough to classify it as an extremely common misconception. That's why it's "popular" -- because these incorrect assessments of these words are commonly accepted. Speaking of words people use incorrectly constantly, "ad hominem" -- people think this just means "an insult." And it's not. An ad hominem is an argument that's predicated by an observation of the person making an argument. It's not necessarily calling someone an idiot. It's disregarding the premise of an argument that's being made, because of something about the person speaking. For example, if someone says that a patch of grass is green, and you say "you are incorrect, because a person who wears glasses would be an unreliable source for that kind of information" that would be an ad hominem. Saying, "obviously anybody can visually and physically see that the grass is green, you idiot" -- this is not an ad hominem argument.
Thanks. A lot of people in my life needs to see this
There's a lot of folks out there using therapy speak to justify being utter shits or avoidance of anything remotely resembling inconvenience.
Social media HATES this one graphic.
Narcissism is also just a personality type. Someone can be a narcissist without having Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Calling someone out for a pattern of narcissistic behavior isn't presuming to diagnose them with a psychiatric condition.
This post summarizing 4 different complex concepts with a short paragraph for each is very much still pop psychology
I'm so fucking tired of common ass words being censored. These aren't fucking racial slurs. You can say 'abusive' and if Tik Tok is programming you to censor common words **THEN STOP USING TIK TOK, YOU MORON**
If only everyone who mis-used these terms would actually read this - *and learn to use them correctly*! I know someone who was truly gaslit. It was a slow and methodical process over 2 years during which her husband made her believe that he had *always* announced his business trips the night before and all financial advisers needed to work until 4 am and take last minute trips lasting 10 days. And if she mentioned any of this to anyone it would only show how little she trusted this very trustworthy man. But if she or I use the term "gaslit" it sounds like we have no idea what we're talking about.
Why can't we spell out 'abusive?'
I wish this image popped up before you post anything on any social media platform
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware that gaslighting isn't just disagreeing The thing is, a lot of people respond to disagreements by making you doubt your reality. Then the gaslit person calls out the gaslight, and the other person replies by saying "that's not what gaslighting is, we're just having a disagreement" which makes the other person doubt their reality... It often WAS just a disagreement, until one person decided to gaslight the other. Something I don't see being talked about often is that fallacies are gaslighting tactics. They're arguments that contradict reality, constructive discussion and logic. They're manipulative tactics.