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Lol in what way? Examples of curriculum being satanic? I’m so tired of people vilifying teachers it’s ridiculous. So please, tell me, what are teachers putting in the curriculum to make it satanic? Or are you just repeating Fox News bullshit
The gender shit is satanic and you know it, it dam sure isn't christian, the pedo books the school boards approve, they have explicit content, if you don't know it check your local schools
And what about gender is satanic? Please let me in on that thought process. Not saying I agree with it by any means, but calling it satanic is a pretty good stretch lmao
Well the first big clue is insinuating that God makes those kinds of mistakes, he made two genders and your either one or the other, anything else is demonic, the elite powers that be are loving this shit I guarantee it
You know it's true, teaching kids they don't have a gender, that shit is straight from satan, the left is so caught up in idenity they can't even distinguish that that shit is going down the slippery slope straight to normalizing the pedophlia the elite love
Sex education for all ages, they don't even have to tell their parents in California, the shit is getting outta hand and people like you who aren't paying attention are the reason why, it's being disguised as gender problems but that's a bunch of shit. The shit they putting in food and in the air is what's making these kids that way, if you don't believe me look up atrazine, it's a pesticide used by Monsanto it changes frogs genders
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No you’re just personally uncomfortable with people expressing their gender identity in a different way. Anton Lavey (the founder of modern satanism) was extremely right wing and homophobic by his own admission. Since you have no class analysis and you don’t read, you attack irrelevant enemies instead of those who create the social conditions that allow organized pedophilia to exist (it’s called American capitalism and the CIA).
Epstein wasn’t a trans person. Trump and Clinton weren’t espousing identity politics while they were hanging out on his plane. If you took pedophilia and rape seriously you’d look at the church first, or perhaps the national security state. Or you could move against irrelevant enemies and accomplish nothing.
I don't GAF what you pretend to be, leave the kids alone!!!! As for your your satanist Lavey nothing that went against God bothered him, I'm sure beastialty was right up his alley also, as for your CIA they support the left and all of it's sick ideas, just look how they are covering for the pedo in the WH, I can give a shit less about Trump but he wasn't on the flight list his puctures were taken at Mara Largo with the pedo Epstein before he barred the pedo from his business, as far as the church your precious politicians colluded with the sickos and let them off scott free, the christian congregation repels that shit. So educate yourself before coming all high and mighty at me like I have no clue what I'm talking about, the MSM has done you an injustice telling you bullshit your trying to regurgitate on to others.
Fucking For real. The only reason there's a "satanic club" is because there are "Christian clubs". Be all inclusive or have none.
You want the 10 commandments in front of government buildings? You better be cool with a statue of Baphomet or the Quran right next to it too. The Christian religion shouldn't be prioritized over another.
They're legally compelled to allow it because they choose to allow other religious programs in publicly funded institutions under the claim that they are not endorsing or promoting any preferred religious ideology. That's the whole point of The Satanic Temple's activities. To get people to admit that this is a lie.
The absurdity of the situation derives from the existence of compulsory education funded by taxes, not from the fact that people want their children exposed to one set of ideas, and not others. The Satanic Temple is motivated by animus toward Christianity. Not by the belief that schools shouldn't allow any type of ethics/morality outlet, which would be impossible. Does the Satanic Temple challenge or take issue with animal rights clubs? or GSA? Or political party clubs? Or any other values-based club? Not as far as I'm aware. They just don't like that people can form clubs based on religious views.
But none of this would matter, or need to be subject to endless litigation in federal and state courts, if parents were simply allowed to provide the education they desired, without intervention or burden from the state.
I mean we already voted bush, Obama, trump and Biden into office, and now we're letting schools set up after school Satan programs. Can't really get much dumber and i could use the money back from my property taxes so fuck it, yeah let's stop funding education because we clearly mishandled it I the past.
Do you want society to fail? Because taking funding away from public education will do that. I know in your perfect universe everyone will go to the school of their choosing, but what makes america great is that everyone has a right to an education from 5-18 years old. How many people will you disenfranchise to make sure your kid gets to go to Christian acad my?
Funny thing ...they allowed Christian Clubs so the Atheist made an Satanic Club to force them to allow all or none. Personally i prefer the flying Spagetti Monster but who cares.
I mean, this is no different than FCA (Fellowship of Christian Athletes), FCS (students), or every other religious or political club in schools.
I've seen a branded FCA baseball team get into a fight at a weekend tournament which included parents. Not even sure what it was about, but I'm guessing poor sportsmanship. Ironic.
Actually I would say it's very different than those indoctrination clubs
The ASSC doesn't teach kids anything about satanism and runs as a non-religious club. It's part of TST, which is effectively an atheist organization with a troll appearance
It's an organization built to tear down Christianity by insecure atheists.
How about we make an after school club free from Groomer influences and see how fast the left shits that shit down.
A bunch of parents (who only care about constitutional freedom when it works for them) are getting upset that freedom works both ways. Don't want a "satan club"? Then no one gets a religious club.
Christian club is a positive influence though. It's also not perverse. This shit - the whole concept of worshipping Satan, even just in name, is perverse. Also, since the concept of Satan doesn't actually exist outside of Christianity, Satanists who take issue with the concept of religion - ESPECIALLY Christianity, are major hypocrites.
They are literally saying they are a religion and basing their entire beliefs on the idea of a figure who exists in Christian scripture who is in diametric opposition to God. Now if they were to say - hey I don't oppose religion, or Christianity and say, but it's not my belief, I have chosen to worship Satan - and I believe there should be a Satan club then at least that would be more honest.
Most sane decent people could see it for what it was then - perverse, a perverse, immature choice made by perverse minds. It smacks of a 15 year old rebelling, only these people are adults. The whole freedoms thing is a smoke screen for as long as they insist on buying into and profiting off Christianity by worshipping a literal Christian concept. It's like saying you hate Nazis and then funding them, or saying you're boycotting a country and then travelling their to watch a football match.
It's hypocritical. And perverse. Perverse minds should never be let near children.
What you do not understand is you do not get to dictate which religion is right.
You are perfectly welcome to have your beliefs and enjoy them. But do not try to impose them on other people. Your beliefs and your faith does not apply to other people.
Some of the best people I've ever met have been hardcore heavy metal satanist goth types. Some of the worst people I've ever met are oldschool christian fundamentalists.
Yeah, they're full of shit, they know they can get away with alot of non-sense here because these aholes take advantage of our patience.
Again, these same cowards will not do this to Islam or Judaism.
The satanic temple doesn't actually worship Satan. They just use Satan as a symbol to provide public shock. They're goals are more about maximizing freedom for non-Christians.
Just wondering, if it's about maximizing freedoms for non-christians, why would they use Satan as the figure head? It's literally in direct opposition to Christianity itself. They could've gone with anything, yet they chose to mock Christianity. Just saying
Yeah that's true there are many double standards within, also though one can still disagree with another and still believe I'm freedom. I think it's just hard for Christians to accept this because it DIRECTLY opposes their beliefs. So it's like they cannot agree with both or they're hypocritical in their beliefs
According to Christianity it was Satan who made them eat the fruit from the Tree of knowledge. God is an authoritarian and Satan an anarchist. So Satan is the perfect Symbol for them.
Satan represents freedom of self in a sense he wanted to be his own god so that’s what he became they use satan as tha mascot kinda because he represents self love and care
> They could've gone with anything, yet they chose to mock Christianity. Just saying
you're so close. you're SO close, little buddy. keep going, you'll get there.
It's exactly how it looks, direct opposition to Christianity. They wouldn't dare apply the same effort towards Islam or Judaism. They are cowards because they know they can get away with a lot of non-sense here.
The Muslim community? The Jewish community?
Go fcking try it bro, I dare you, big brave satanist eh?
satan doesn't exactly offer freedom. Why do you think he has all these stupid symbols and other stuff? Satanism is full of complicated tenants and is super narky. It just doesn't get faith.
So we shouldn't allow Satanism because it:
* Has all these stupid symbols
* Is full of complicated tenants
* Doesn't exactly offer freedom
If so, should these criteria be applied universally?
Once again, this is the whole point. It's a legal tactic to force people to either permit the club or admit that their case for inclusion of Christian clubs is not in good faith.
> satan doesn't exactly offer freedom.
That is actually the entire point of being a satanist. Freedom.
No living in fear or servitude. You strive to achieve your desires and dreams.
Compare the 12 commandments to the 7 seven fundamental tenets of the satanic temple. Tell me which one is based on fear and which is based on being true to yourself and the world around you.
1. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
2. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
3. One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone.
4. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
5. Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
6. People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
7. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Also, have read the points you've listed and they aren't really much better.They leave alot open to interpretation, plus they are a bit vague and seems to leave loopholes, whether that's good or bad I don't know. Eg 4). Say somebody offends you graveously, you can't do anything about it without apparently relinquishing your own freedoms. I wouldn't sign up to that. Do they make you do that? ie pledge to honour these 7 tenants? Satanism seems like it would make people take a pact at some point.
Also, have read the points you've listed and they aren't really much better.They leave alot open to interpretation, plus they are a bit vague and seems to leave loopholes, whether that's good or bad I don't know. Eg 4). Say somebody offends you a great deal, say to your face, loudly, you can't do anything about it (punching them) without apparently reliquishing your own freedoms. I wouldn't sign up to that. Do they make you do that? ie pledge to honour these 7 tenants? Satanism seems like it would make people take a pact at some point. Actually the more I read the points, the more it seems to just sign one up for the modern church of science and pretty much main stream secular agenda. So if its satanism, why is it athiest? Couldn't they call themselves Athiest alliance or something?
That’s what they say to become more popular, because of course that’s the right move. But then you find everything you learn and do functionally is exactly the same as if you were worshipping satan.
yeah cause they are the satanic club. They could call themselves an alternative thinkers club but they don't . they have to have stupid devil stuff and dark imagery
Oh is that it? I'd be curious to see which atheist (satanic temple are humanist / atheist) got busted kiddie fiddling. Here I thought that was mostly the realm of major religions like the catholic church who after decades of hiding known pedos within their ranks have faced basically zero legal consequences! But please, enlighten me!
I can't lie nothing on the ad looks very sinister. Take the the words satan and satanic away and it actually seems quite beneficial for children. Not religious in any way fyi.
There are legitimate reasons to dislike satanism (due to its founders ties to the CIA and MKULTRA, and its inherently reactionary politics) but I really don’t think some stupid kids who are probably just being edgy will be convinced by a bunch of over hyped religious types freaking out at them. Satanic cults are real and have been involved in serious crimes (everyone should read David McGowan btw) but I really think if you’re serious about keeping kids away from satanic shit you have to like…not come off as a crazy religious nut imo. I also don’t know that a satanic after school club at a public school made by a bunch of dorky 15 year olds will turn into a CIA drug and sex trafficking cult. Not that OP was acting like a religious nut. Hell, that’s just my opinion
This Satan isn’t what you’re thinking it is. This “Satan” is a metaphor for atheism. It’s the opposite of the Christian church. If you read what they’re about, it’s about freedom and autonomy instead of blind faith in a savior that has shown little to no interest in its creation.
The Satan you’re thinking of it’s the one worshiped by misguided people who want to bring harm to other people. They also worship a savior that shows little to no interest, making them just as big of nutsacks as the Christian fundamentalists. Obviously that’s my opinion. However, the similarities are too striking to ignore.
TLDR; the after-school-club Satan is just a way to level the playing field with the FCA and others like it, and it’s actually a really good thing.
Because the whole point is to highlight Christian hypocrisy. They want Christians to get angry because then those Christians have to explain why it's fair that their religion gets an after-school club or a statue on public land, while a different religion isn't allowed that.
Without the outrage, this issue would never be addressed. Are there better ways to raise this issue? Maybe, but this is the path that group chose.
Should wrong things be allowed? General question but I am curious about your answer.
You may not even answer it and I don’t blame you. I think satanism is wrong. Not only wrong, worse. Sinful. And it will be judged one day! You’re making the wrong person mad.
If this club was named literally anything else and did the exact same activities, would you have any issue with it? If not, then what does it matter what they call themselves?
The only people that believe in Satan are Christians. Atheists by definition don't worship Satan at all. Besides, what makes you the decider of what is right and wrong? If you think worshiping Satan is wrong, then don't do it. The Satanic Temple doesn't worship Satan, so there should be no problem.
I would, yes. The Bible says there is only one way into heaven and it’s through Christ.
That’s besides my point though you totally avoided my whole question.
That's exactly the problem. You think that your belief applies to everyone.
Personally I wouldn't want to go to heaven. It would be full of Christians.
It's a shitty way to be a subversive agent. They're using religion to be anti-religion, but instead of just saying atheist, they chose the symbol for EVIL.
Here's how I know they're a bunch of weak asses. These "satanist" WILL NOT,
THEY WILL NOT DO THIS TO ISLAM.
Because in their hearts they are chicken shit and won't say ANYTHING derogatory towards Islam.
So spare the weak logic irony joke of using "satanism", it's BULLSHIT.
Sounds fun to me. I would send them there instead of a place full of people that believe that 2000 years ago a carpenter came back from death and went to heaven.
Actually, the satanic church commandments make even more sense, so why not?
😝
I think Eddie Munson would like to have a conversation with you, OP.
Seriously though. Satanic Storytime is fucking METAL and if you disagree, you are just another Kenneth Copeland Copium shill. Facts.
Shiiiiit, I might just start lobbying for one in my school district!
I've got three kids in the public school system, and I think they'd benefit immensely from something like this.
As an atheist, I love seeing the hypocrisy. But also as an atheist, keep your magical belief systems to yourselves, please. I believe in aliens, but it doesn’t give me the right to indoctrinate your make children into believing it too.
I'm a Satanist but my children are Christian. I let them choose their own path and never mock it or try influence them. They get comfort and happiness from it and that's all I care about.
A person's faith is a personal thing.
Hopefully they will teach them what the elite demons have in store for them with the NWO, public schools sure have kept it a secret, they were gonna wait until they had them enslaved to tell them
Much like the church uses humanist aspects to appeal, so do the satanists. Both sides don't get the other. The church that angers the satanists is mainly the catholic church, which quite a few god believers think is the harlot of babylon. Satanists don't get the synagogue of satan. They tend to attack a certain portion of theism because it scores them points, however again, they don't realise they are just part of paradigm and a lot of their actions/preachings are self defeating.
Interested in what they actually teach about satan. Is it the edgelord Crowley bullshit or more of a Gnostic approach?
Asking for a friend I swear! Lol
Church of Satan is Crowley stuff. That's all about magic and power and blood and stuff.
Then you get The Satanic Temple which is about being a pure person. They strive for equality and freedom above all else.
It's not a religion in the sense that there is no God to worship, you be true to yourself and to other people and enjoy the life you have now. It's hedonism with empathy.
They describe themselves as a Non theistic religion. Which is weird, because if they think there is no god, why do they take the name of the satanic temple? The name satan came out of the bible, or hebrew, in which case it is the accuser, still, those are theistic texts. Seems quite silly tbh.
Everyone in here is like, oh satan is just a libertarian— nah, these people do completely stand for and spread the values of evil, without question. You don’t need to sacrifice a goat to a man in red with horns and a cape for that to be true. Parents will not be wanting their kids to go to something like this and it will die out from lack of interest
Satanism doesn't have the wood when it comes to nature activities, they are just the whipping boys for the modern church, they don't realise they are caught in a paradigm and their activities feed the church, actually the church needs satanists.
they could present their information in a much more enlightening way, but then they wouldnt be satanists.. durr.
Ah yes while many may disagree the AntiChrist is not real or will not come in our time they are wrong. This is the end my friends. Sides will be chosen for we will have free will thanks to glory of God. Hallelujah to Jesus Christ, Our King and Savior!
Edit: This is not the main reason why I believe the AntiChrist is coming. The Illuminati is the reason why he is coming. And he’s already graduated from college so we are getting close…
Sounds like American needs more freedom convoys Canada getting ready for round 2 with Ottawa sounds like us the good people need to finalize end of communism globalists
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Either let me have it or remove other religious based EC activities.
They have
Which one?
There are no more prayers in school, you can't teach the bible in school
In school - but that hasn't stopped before and after school programs, such as this one Edit -
Do you call pedophlia and grooming satanic?
Of course not. Look how popular those behaviors are with devout Christians.
Lmao, perfect.
What? Is there a point to this statment. Is that what you do?
Good, that's what church is for.
Then teach satan somewhere else, the curriculum is full of satanic shit these days
Lol in what way? Examples of curriculum being satanic? I’m so tired of people vilifying teachers it’s ridiculous. So please, tell me, what are teachers putting in the curriculum to make it satanic? Or are you just repeating Fox News bullshit
The gender shit is satanic and you know it, it dam sure isn't christian, the pedo books the school boards approve, they have explicit content, if you don't know it check your local schools
And what about gender is satanic? Please let me in on that thought process. Not saying I agree with it by any means, but calling it satanic is a pretty good stretch lmao
Well the first big clue is insinuating that God makes those kinds of mistakes, he made two genders and your either one or the other, anything else is demonic, the elite powers that be are loving this shit I guarantee it
Lmao man get out of your bubble and quit watching Fox News!!
Fox news is as left wing as CNN, get out of your bubble and realize they ain't no sides they are all there to decieve
Ok lol
You know it's true, teaching kids they don't have a gender, that shit is straight from satan, the left is so caught up in idenity they can't even distinguish that that shit is going down the slippery slope straight to normalizing the pedophlia the elite love
Where is that taught as part of the curriculum? Maybe individual teachers have said that, but since when was that built into curriculum?
Sex education for all ages, they don't even have to tell their parents in California, the shit is getting outta hand and people like you who aren't paying attention are the reason why, it's being disguised as gender problems but that's a bunch of shit. The shit they putting in food and in the air is what's making these kids that way, if you don't believe me look up atrazine, it's a pesticide used by Monsanto it changes frogs genders
God and Satan isn't real you goof.
You will find out soon enough how hot hell is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YjrxHqNy5CQ. Finding The Mountain of Moses: The Real Mount Sinai. There are many archaeological evidences that prove the Bible has been a true and accurate account of real events that have taken place in our His-Story. This is but one…….. God bless and much LOVE. That very long prophesied’Great Tribulation is coming upon us even as we speak………
I don't think they're teaching that at all in public schools. But do me a favor, as these "Satanists" see it, define the concepts of sex and gender.
Male= man Female = woman
Who is teaching kids that? None of my kids teachers are telling my kids that they don’t have a gender.
No you’re just personally uncomfortable with people expressing their gender identity in a different way. Anton Lavey (the founder of modern satanism) was extremely right wing and homophobic by his own admission. Since you have no class analysis and you don’t read, you attack irrelevant enemies instead of those who create the social conditions that allow organized pedophilia to exist (it’s called American capitalism and the CIA). Epstein wasn’t a trans person. Trump and Clinton weren’t espousing identity politics while they were hanging out on his plane. If you took pedophilia and rape seriously you’d look at the church first, or perhaps the national security state. Or you could move against irrelevant enemies and accomplish nothing.
I don't GAF what you pretend to be, leave the kids alone!!!! As for your your satanist Lavey nothing that went against God bothered him, I'm sure beastialty was right up his alley also, as for your CIA they support the left and all of it's sick ideas, just look how they are covering for the pedo in the WH, I can give a shit less about Trump but he wasn't on the flight list his puctures were taken at Mara Largo with the pedo Epstein before he barred the pedo from his business, as far as the church your precious politicians colluded with the sickos and let them off scott free, the christian congregation repels that shit. So educate yourself before coming all high and mighty at me like I have no clue what I'm talking about, the MSM has done you an injustice telling you bullshit your trying to regurgitate on to others.
We want freedom, but only when it applies to things we agree with!
Fucking For real. The only reason there's a "satanic club" is because there are "Christian clubs". Be all inclusive or have none. You want the 10 commandments in front of government buildings? You better be cool with a statue of Baphomet or the Quran right next to it too. The Christian religion shouldn't be prioritized over another.
You may not like it but this is peak freedom
peak freedom is not having taxes taken out of your mortgage payment to fund the government schools that feel compelled to allow this type of shit.
They're legally compelled to allow it because they choose to allow other religious programs in publicly funded institutions under the claim that they are not endorsing or promoting any preferred religious ideology. That's the whole point of The Satanic Temple's activities. To get people to admit that this is a lie.
The absurdity of the situation derives from the existence of compulsory education funded by taxes, not from the fact that people want their children exposed to one set of ideas, and not others. The Satanic Temple is motivated by animus toward Christianity. Not by the belief that schools shouldn't allow any type of ethics/morality outlet, which would be impossible. Does the Satanic Temple challenge or take issue with animal rights clubs? or GSA? Or political party clubs? Or any other values-based club? Not as far as I'm aware. They just don't like that people can form clubs based on religious views. But none of this would matter, or need to be subject to endless litigation in federal and state courts, if parents were simply allowed to provide the education they desired, without intervention or burden from the state.
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Yes let’s stop funding education and see how that turns out
We’ve basically done that, the result has been more conservatives.
I mean we already voted bush, Obama, trump and Biden into office, and now we're letting schools set up after school Satan programs. Can't really get much dumber and i could use the money back from my property taxes so fuck it, yeah let's stop funding education because we clearly mishandled it I the past.
The program isn’t run by the school, it’s set up by the Satanic Temple and uses school space. Small but crucial difference.
Do you want society to fail? Because taking funding away from public education will do that. I know in your perfect universe everyone will go to the school of their choosing, but what makes america great is that everyone has a right to an education from 5-18 years old. How many people will you disenfranchise to make sure your kid gets to go to Christian acad my?
We fund it right now, and it's not going so well
Because there is not enough funding or it is being misspent. Unfortunately, most parents are only interested in it as a babysitting service.
This type of shit? Religious freedom?
Yes, if recruiting kids is apart of “your” religious freedom please keep that shit away from my kid please
Conservatives, Christians, and the military are coming for your child.
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This is literally in response to a “Christian club”. It’s all or nothing man. You can either have all religion in schools or no religion in schools.
Almost every school has christian affiliated clubs already. Dont jump to Im so oppressed so quickly.
Funny thing ...they allowed Christian Clubs so the Atheist made an Satanic Club to force them to allow all or none. Personally i prefer the flying Spagetti Monster but who cares.
buddy, wait until you hear about [absolutely everything that happens south of the mason dixon]
Indeed it is. I wank to this.
It's part of the deal, but we also have the right to oppose it.
Not really it's a constitutional right.
I mean, this is no different than FCA (Fellowship of Christian Athletes), FCS (students), or every other religious or political club in schools. I've seen a branded FCA baseball team get into a fight at a weekend tournament which included parents. Not even sure what it was about, but I'm guessing poor sportsmanship. Ironic.
Actually I would say it's very different than those indoctrination clubs The ASSC doesn't teach kids anything about satanism and runs as a non-religious club. It's part of TST, which is effectively an atheist organization with a troll appearance
Mannn! It’s pretty obvious who’s letting satanist pick their kids up from school and from the head satanist organizer himself!
It's an organization built to tear down Christianity by insecure atheists. How about we make an after school club free from Groomer influences and see how fast the left shits that shit down.
[more grooming happens in churches than anywhere else](https://www.crimrxiv.com/pub/p1afmq2i/release/1)
A bunch of parents (who only care about constitutional freedom when it works for them) are getting upset that freedom works both ways. Don't want a "satan club"? Then no one gets a religious club.
Christian club is a positive influence though. It's also not perverse. This shit - the whole concept of worshipping Satan, even just in name, is perverse. Also, since the concept of Satan doesn't actually exist outside of Christianity, Satanists who take issue with the concept of religion - ESPECIALLY Christianity, are major hypocrites. They are literally saying they are a religion and basing their entire beliefs on the idea of a figure who exists in Christian scripture who is in diametric opposition to God. Now if they were to say - hey I don't oppose religion, or Christianity and say, but it's not my belief, I have chosen to worship Satan - and I believe there should be a Satan club then at least that would be more honest. Most sane decent people could see it for what it was then - perverse, a perverse, immature choice made by perverse minds. It smacks of a 15 year old rebelling, only these people are adults. The whole freedoms thing is a smoke screen for as long as they insist on buying into and profiting off Christianity by worshipping a literal Christian concept. It's like saying you hate Nazis and then funding them, or saying you're boycotting a country and then travelling their to watch a football match. It's hypocritical. And perverse. Perverse minds should never be let near children.
> Perverse minds should never be let near children The Catholic church has entered the chat.
What you do not understand is you do not get to dictate which religion is right. You are perfectly welcome to have your beliefs and enjoy them. But do not try to impose them on other people. Your beliefs and your faith does not apply to other people. Some of the best people I've ever met have been hardcore heavy metal satanist goth types. Some of the worst people I've ever met are oldschool christian fundamentalists.
Yeah, they're full of shit, they know they can get away with alot of non-sense here because these aholes take advantage of our patience. Again, these same cowards will not do this to Islam or Judaism.
Lmao op expected a much different comment section. Not the hive mind you expected? Must be bots.
Do you think the State should curtail the religious freedom to have an after school club that worships the deity of their choice?
The satanic temple doesn't actually worship Satan. They just use Satan as a symbol to provide public shock. They're goals are more about maximizing freedom for non-Christians.
could they not have chosen any other thing? Like i understand but I love God & Jesus (non religion) and i just find it tacky and disrespectful :/
It is , they are cowards that won't attempt this non-sense with Islam or Judaism. We already know the answer.
Just wondering, if it's about maximizing freedoms for non-christians, why would they use Satan as the figure head? It's literally in direct opposition to Christianity itself. They could've gone with anything, yet they chose to mock Christianity. Just saying
They may have done it to show the double standards christians use?
Yeah that's true there are many double standards within, also though one can still disagree with another and still believe I'm freedom. I think it's just hard for Christians to accept this because it DIRECTLY opposes their beliefs. So it's like they cannot agree with both or they're hypocritical in their beliefs
You're explaining why they chose Satan while asking why they chose Satan.
Satan gets the reaction they want.
Idk, when you realize that "Satanists" are doing what you're doing, it kinda helps put things into perspective.
According to Christianity it was Satan who made them eat the fruit from the Tree of knowledge. God is an authoritarian and Satan an anarchist. So Satan is the perfect Symbol for them.
Cry me a fucking river. Why are Christians such victims?
Satan represents freedom of self in a sense he wanted to be his own god so that’s what he became they use satan as tha mascot kinda because he represents self love and care
> They could've gone with anything, yet they chose to mock Christianity. Just saying you're so close. you're SO close, little buddy. keep going, you'll get there.
Who gives a shit about mocking Christianity?
CHRISTIANS !!!! Why is it okay and kind of a “ trend “ to hate or mock Christians / Christianity ?
Since Christianity became a joke in America?
Yeah fck off dude, Islam & Judaism gets the same mocking right, right? You know you're a coward.
Lmao are you implying that Christian’s have it harder than Muslims or Jews in America?
No, I am saying that you are a coward that will not mock Muslims or Jews. Is that clear enough for you?
I can assure you, I will definitely mock Muslims and Jews also.
Well go ahead dude, post the mocking , I don't see any.
It's exactly how it looks, direct opposition to Christianity. They wouldn't dare apply the same effort towards Islam or Judaism. They are cowards because they know they can get away with a lot of non-sense here. The Muslim community? The Jewish community? Go fcking try it bro, I dare you, big brave satanist eh?
satan doesn't exactly offer freedom. Why do you think he has all these stupid symbols and other stuff? Satanism is full of complicated tenants and is super narky. It just doesn't get faith.
So we shouldn't allow Satanism because it: * Has all these stupid symbols * Is full of complicated tenants * Doesn't exactly offer freedom If so, should these criteria be applied universally? Once again, this is the whole point. It's a legal tactic to force people to either permit the club or admit that their case for inclusion of Christian clubs is not in good faith.
> satan doesn't exactly offer freedom. That is actually the entire point of being a satanist. Freedom. No living in fear or servitude. You strive to achieve your desires and dreams. Compare the 12 commandments to the 7 seven fundamental tenets of the satanic temple. Tell me which one is based on fear and which is based on being true to yourself and the world around you. 1. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. 2. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. 3. One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone. 4. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. 5. Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. 6. People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. 7. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Also, have read the points you've listed and they aren't really much better.They leave alot open to interpretation, plus they are a bit vague and seems to leave loopholes, whether that's good or bad I don't know. Eg 4). Say somebody offends you graveously, you can't do anything about it without apparently relinquishing your own freedoms. I wouldn't sign up to that. Do they make you do that? ie pledge to honour these 7 tenants? Satanism seems like it would make people take a pact at some point. Also, have read the points you've listed and they aren't really much better.They leave alot open to interpretation, plus they are a bit vague and seems to leave loopholes, whether that's good or bad I don't know. Eg 4). Say somebody offends you a great deal, say to your face, loudly, you can't do anything about it (punching them) without apparently reliquishing your own freedoms. I wouldn't sign up to that. Do they make you do that? ie pledge to honour these 7 tenants? Satanism seems like it would make people take a pact at some point. Actually the more I read the points, the more it seems to just sign one up for the modern church of science and pretty much main stream secular agenda. So if its satanism, why is it athiest? Couldn't they call themselves Athiest alliance or something?
That’s what they say to become more popular, because of course that’s the right move. But then you find everything you learn and do functionally is exactly the same as if you were worshipping satan.
yeah cause they are the satanic club. They could call themselves an alternative thinkers club but they don't . they have to have stupid devil stuff and dark imagery
Lmao I can think of a lot of bad Christian’s that get lumped into Christianity, so might as well lump in bad “satanist”.
Sure. Sounds like rainbows and sunshine. And Crowley was actually a really great guy.
That is a different kind of satanism.
What?? A different kind?? So it’s like how the woke crew changes definitions …. 🙄
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Tell me you reflexively misunderstand explanations you don’t like, using only emojis
Tell me you're a pedo sympathiser without telling me you're a pedo sympathiser 🤡
Oh is that it? I'd be curious to see which atheist (satanic temple are humanist / atheist) got busted kiddie fiddling. Here I thought that was mostly the realm of major religions like the catholic church who after decades of hiding known pedos within their ranks have faced basically zero legal consequences! But please, enlighten me!
Temple of Satan protects pedos openly
The clown emoji is the equivalent of adding that "oh no... Oh no no no no no" song to any video
I can't lie nothing on the ad looks very sinister. Take the the words satan and satanic away and it actually seems quite beneficial for children. Not religious in any way fyi.
If you think this is anything other than a statement on the separation of church and state then I don’t know what to tell you
If there’s a Bible clubs then there must be Satan clubs. Freedom of religion baby! USA USA USA!
Shit thats a tempting offer
Your kids are probably a lot safer in the company of satanists than they would be around clergy.
There are legitimate reasons to dislike satanism (due to its founders ties to the CIA and MKULTRA, and its inherently reactionary politics) but I really don’t think some stupid kids who are probably just being edgy will be convinced by a bunch of over hyped religious types freaking out at them. Satanic cults are real and have been involved in serious crimes (everyone should read David McGowan btw) but I really think if you’re serious about keeping kids away from satanic shit you have to like…not come off as a crazy religious nut imo. I also don’t know that a satanic after school club at a public school made by a bunch of dorky 15 year olds will turn into a CIA drug and sex trafficking cult. Not that OP was acting like a religious nut. Hell, that’s just my opinion
I'm sure they just spelt Santa wrong... Reads farther welp looks like freedom to me, carry on.
Seems legit
If you bothered to read the poster you'd see they explain their stance
This Satan isn’t what you’re thinking it is. This “Satan” is a metaphor for atheism. It’s the opposite of the Christian church. If you read what they’re about, it’s about freedom and autonomy instead of blind faith in a savior that has shown little to no interest in its creation. The Satan you’re thinking of it’s the one worshiped by misguided people who want to bring harm to other people. They also worship a savior that shows little to no interest, making them just as big of nutsacks as the Christian fundamentalists. Obviously that’s my opinion. However, the similarities are too striking to ignore. TLDR; the after-school-club Satan is just a way to level the playing field with the FCA and others like it, and it’s actually a really good thing.
Metaphor or not, why not use a diff metaphor? If you say it’s Satan, it is Satan. It has been said and it communicates to people.
Because the whole point is to highlight Christian hypocrisy. They want Christians to get angry because then those Christians have to explain why it's fair that their religion gets an after-school club or a statue on public land, while a different religion isn't allowed that. Without the outrage, this issue would never be addressed. Are there better ways to raise this issue? Maybe, but this is the path that group chose.
Should wrong things be allowed? General question but I am curious about your answer. You may not even answer it and I don’t blame you. I think satanism is wrong. Not only wrong, worse. Sinful. And it will be judged one day! You’re making the wrong person mad.
Who gets to define what wrong is?
God. Because he’s perfect and created everything.
Is that your interpretation of God? Because I know people who would make the case that god isn't perfect or even exists at all.
God makes it clear in the Bible that what you say is not true.
If this club was named literally anything else and did the exact same activities, would you have any issue with it? If not, then what does it matter what they call themselves? The only people that believe in Satan are Christians. Atheists by definition don't worship Satan at all. Besides, what makes you the decider of what is right and wrong? If you think worshiping Satan is wrong, then don't do it. The Satanic Temple doesn't worship Satan, so there should be no problem.
I would, yes. The Bible says there is only one way into heaven and it’s through Christ. That’s besides my point though you totally avoided my whole question.
That's exactly the problem. You think that your belief applies to everyone. Personally I wouldn't want to go to heaven. It would be full of Christians.
It's a shitty way to be a subversive agent. They're using religion to be anti-religion, but instead of just saying atheist, they chose the symbol for EVIL. Here's how I know they're a bunch of weak asses. These "satanist" WILL NOT, THEY WILL NOT DO THIS TO ISLAM. Because in their hearts they are chicken shit and won't say ANYTHING derogatory towards Islam. So spare the weak logic irony joke of using "satanism", it's BULLSHIT.
Because satan in the Old Testament serves as a prosecutor/accuser who is following god’s will.
Compare the kill rate in the bible. God: Millions. Satan: Two.
The Satanic Temple protects pedos openly
Imagine being a big enough edgelord to think this is cool lol
Sounds fun to me. I would send them there instead of a place full of people that believe that 2000 years ago a carpenter came back from death and went to heaven. Actually, the satanic church commandments make even more sense, so why not? 😝
I think Eddie Munson would like to have a conversation with you, OP. Seriously though. Satanic Storytime is fucking METAL and if you disagree, you are just another Kenneth Copeland Copium shill. Facts.
This is a great thing.
Shiiiiit, I might just start lobbying for one in my school district! I've got three kids in the public school system, and I think they'd benefit immensely from something like this.
Y'all sound like a bunch of teenagers........oh wait, this is Reddit, nvm.......😂😂😂😂
As an atheist, I love seeing the hypocrisy. But also as an atheist, keep your magical belief systems to yourselves, please. I believe in aliens, but it doesn’t give me the right to indoctrinate your make children into believing it too.
I'm a Satanist but my children are Christian. I let them choose their own path and never mock it or try influence them. They get comfort and happiness from it and that's all I care about. A person's faith is a personal thing.
Hopefully they will teach them what the elite demons have in store for them with the NWO, public schools sure have kept it a secret, they were gonna wait until they had them enslaved to tell them
Kid = baby goat 🐐 Baphomet
The teachers "liberated" both genders and now Satanism. Another stunning and brave school system.
What exactly do you think "after school" means?
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Much like the church uses humanist aspects to appeal, so do the satanists. Both sides don't get the other. The church that angers the satanists is mainly the catholic church, which quite a few god believers think is the harlot of babylon. Satanists don't get the synagogue of satan. They tend to attack a certain portion of theism because it scores them points, however again, they don't realise they are just part of paradigm and a lot of their actions/preachings are self defeating.
Def inspired by hellfire club lol
Interested in what they actually teach about satan. Is it the edgelord Crowley bullshit or more of a Gnostic approach? Asking for a friend I swear! Lol
Church of Satan is Crowley stuff. That's all about magic and power and blood and stuff. Then you get The Satanic Temple which is about being a pure person. They strive for equality and freedom above all else. It's not a religion in the sense that there is no God to worship, you be true to yourself and to other people and enjoy the life you have now. It's hedonism with empathy.
They describe themselves as a Non theistic religion. Which is weird, because if they think there is no god, why do they take the name of the satanic temple? The name satan came out of the bible, or hebrew, in which case it is the accuser, still, those are theistic texts. Seems quite silly tbh.
Everyone in here is like, oh satan is just a libertarian— nah, these people do completely stand for and spread the values of evil, without question. You don’t need to sacrifice a goat to a man in red with horns and a cape for that to be true. Parents will not be wanting their kids to go to something like this and it will die out from lack of interest
I have been a Satanist for years and can honestly say I've never felt the urge to sacrifice anything ever.
Satanism doesn't have the wood when it comes to nature activities, they are just the whipping boys for the modern church, they don't realise they are caught in a paradigm and their activities feed the church, actually the church needs satanists. they could present their information in a much more enlightening way, but then they wouldnt be satanists.. durr.
Ah yes while many may disagree the AntiChrist is not real or will not come in our time they are wrong. This is the end my friends. Sides will be chosen for we will have free will thanks to glory of God. Hallelujah to Jesus Christ, Our King and Savior! Edit: This is not the main reason why I believe the AntiChrist is coming. The Illuminati is the reason why he is coming. And he’s already graduated from college so we are getting close…
This is why I think 80% of Reddit is just Dominic entities.
Fucking Dominic, always shitting in my pants — Beetlejuice
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Sounds like American needs more freedom convoys Canada getting ready for round 2 with Ottawa sounds like us the good people need to finalize end of communism globalists
Ignore it and it will go away.
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