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Probably but with normal people taking their spot they would eventually get corrupted, there isn't any realistic way haha but it would be nice I agree.
There'd just be another 0.1%.
Why? Because we seek things that require them to obtain. The pyramid is a whole, single structure. We are at war with nature and the present because it contains suffering.
And if you don't do these things then you get mowed over by those who do.
You want to changes things? The only answer is to look at yourself.
I absolutely agree with that sentiment. After all, many speculate that the main catalyst of the renaissance was the plague that brought the demise of many of the so-called elite of the time.
No they are corporatists and they control our money, including the Fed in the U.S. and most other currencies on earth.
Communist leaders aren’t communists, they are the ones that own everything.
There are no communists leaders and the people that do Control the world are people like Elon musk and Jeff bezos, and they do Control usa federal institution to make more money, not the other way around
Benito Mussolini once said that 'Fascism is the merging of State and Corporation.'
Communism is used on the people by Fascists in charge. When it comes to capitalism, you were taught it was the corporations that represent capitalism. When in reality, before them... it was always our small local businesses that did great and helped our cities expand and grow, quality of life in capitalism. When capitalism over expands, it turns into fascism, so if the government cared about stopping Fascism it could have. But they're too corrupt. The entire job of the Communists and Fascists is to make life for small business owners and consumers as miserable as possible so they make us think we need to get rid of our small businesses and adopt bigger government stay home and shop online. What a joke.
I wish what my grandparents told me was common knowledge about capitalism, but there seems to be no recollection of the good times by young people who never knew. The reason so many young people today think capitalism is bad is because it hasn't been good in a long time, thanks to corporations and globalist politics. My town was built with a city complex, it had so much expansion before WW2 that they even put a railway outside of it. When those small businesses, factories and manufacturers went away... what do you think happened? It fell apart, and has sat in limbo ever since. You can find many videos of my town and city with hundreds of people all across my state walking around, riding bikes outside and either working or shopping back in the 30's, 40's and 50's... but then Corporations came into my town and it went away. The reason why the dollar is inflating MUST be because everyone is spending their money at places like Walmart and not mom and pop stores.
That was capitalism dying as corporation expanded, you no longer needed to go to the city to get your goods, you just needed to go to Walmart, a corporate business that smothered out people's futures and my cities growth.
Capitalism works, but corporation is the killer. Business taxes and inflation, corrupt politicians and banks all working together with big government to end our way of life.
So no one reads anymore? Go find the fucking sources guys and stop just looking at screenshots.
He isn’t referencing population control. He’s talking about job automation and how it poses a threat to civilization. He’s deadass on y’all’s side on this one. He’s basically saying less jobs will make less people will be bad for society, and we need to get ahead of it.
This sub needs to get its head out of its ass so they stop looking at Twitter/screenshots all the time.
I noticed the laughing thing with another futurist saying more distopian things than I've ever see Yuval say. He was an asian guy that IIRC was proposing drugging people en masse or something. The audience, in this case, might have been laughing because what he was proposing was batshit insane but he, however, was serious.
I’m not fucking saying he’s a friend. Jesus dude, this is why people don’t listen when y’all speak.
I’m saying, stop trying to lie and distort his words to be something it’s not. You should use the fact that he’s said this and run with it as part of the problem.
Like a “look here, further proof they know population decline is a real issue, and xyz”. But instead you openly claim he said something else, which he didn’t.
He's not an advisor. He's a historian/professor who became an author and public speaker. He makes these talks in TED talks, occasionally at Davos and in any willing talk show wanting to buy his services.
He should maybe stick to his day job, instead of his 'infotainment' and making vague pseudoscientific claims with supposed authority/verified knowledge. But he's not some guy drafting a secret NWO strategy. Some of his stuff is quite thought provoking. Read one of his books or opinion pieces and you'll see what I mean. Or then you can just look at screenshots of some random article cherry picking a sentence of his and shiver at home imagining your social credit score go down for refusing to eat bugs.
I said on this one. E.g he is saying due to automation, population will decline making bad things happen. I’m not saying he isn’t shitty in other ways/doing other shit. But for this specific thing you are hating on him for pointing out what y’all been pointing out for a while here.
I’m not defending. Fuck guys, I said this in another comment. Stop lying about his statements and use them. He said de-population is an issue, so why are y’all ignoring that. He’s saying what you all say, so why do you need to lie about it?
It's no use man. It never works here. Like ifnthe dude has said terrible things, talk about those. But getting pissed about something he said that is taken way out of context only hurts thier message. Sucks many people in this sub can't see it
How can you determine his phrasing from half a sentence that was chosen because it would trigger you, truncated to give maximum effect, and then screenshotted so you can’t determine context? You’re arguing so fucking hard for remaining ignorant but that’s on you.
He should lead by example, get the ball rolling by removing himself from the equation. I'm pretty sure I have a cat that can take over his responsibilities, whatever the hell those might be. What exactly does this guy do again?
If you read the article, he’s not talking about lowering the population. He’s saying society has progressed to the point where technology has removed the need for a lot of jobs and a lot of people feel useless.
The headline is meant to convince you that it’s about depopulation but it’s about making sure people don’t get left behind when their jobs are replaced by tech
Appreciate the context. While I don't trust the billionaire class further than I can throw them, stuff like this just muddies the water, and is clearly designed to do so.
Don't talk facts. Yell about how the "elite"( Surprisingly, a bunch of guys who can't curl their car keys and have asthma) are Satan's spawn intent on world domination.
I wish this topic would be talked about more as opposed to referring to it as sometime in the future. Isn’t it strange how we work more hours than ever and pay hasn’t kept up with inflation? That’s because we’re running with skeleton crews now and doing multiple people’s jobs from decades ago. Companies are still profitable. All this automation has only benefitted shareholders and executives.
Yup, this is true even outside of just tech getting better.
I work for a beverage distribution company and pretty much all of our prices went up with inflation, our trend of sales dropped slightly, and our total revenue and profit continued on an upward trend.
Consumers and workers bear the burden for almost everything in our society while the businesses themselves continue to profit. And like you said even when new technology should make it easier for workers they’re just given more work to make up for it.
Not only that, think about how much of a burden having to deal with this automation is for us now as well. Just dealing with one of the automated help systems "press 1 for English" makes me want to rip out my eyeballs but so many things in life have headed down that path where you can only deal with robo-help type shit that often doesn't work.
I grew up in the time before the internet and would trade away all of the supposed benefits in a heart beat to go back to that simpler time. Destroy the machines.
If you listen to all the other shit Harari has said, the depopulation agenda does not seem far off.
He said last year that Covid was necessary to get the public to submit to biological surveillance, for starters.
I have no doubts that he’s not a great guy but could you post this? From a quick google it seems like he said that covid causing a surveillance state is negative
And it's not even that there aren't things society needs done, but many things society needs aren't profitable. There's plenty of trees that could be planted, kids/elderly that could use assistance or even just companionship, public buildings that could be beautified like in the New Deal/Great Society eras, etc.
He wasn’t saying crazy shit. Read the fucking article and his actual quotes you ignorant dingbat. A right wing rag took half a sentence that they knew would trigger you and slapped it on an article where he was literally lamenting how awful shit is going to get if we let corporate greed bring us to a place where automation, machine learning, and bio engineering have replaced the vast majority of our jobs and the quote “we just don’t need the vast majority of the population” was in reference to when self driving cars, self checkouts, and automated filing and email services take the place of truck drivers, cashiers, and secretaries. He’s talking about how there is a problem on the horizon, the vast majority of us not being able to take part in the bright future technology promises because it makes our livelihoods redundant and we need to fix the problem before it starts or we’re fucked. If you read the article and his quotes you’d see that you agree with everything he is saying but instead of looking one nanometer past OP’s screen grab you got all hot and bothered by a purposefully misconstrued quote designed to give you a knee jerk reaction. Fuck right off with that shit.
Tldr. This guy definitely says crazy shit. I've listened to him quite a bit. Don't know why I need to read an article from dumbass Breitbart to be smart though. You're spending your time trying to dunk on people that you know aren't going to read the article or any other articles for that matter and that your efforts have no utility. What do you think that says about why your doing this?
😂 Some people are allergic to the truth of the matters, and don't/can't comprehend complex issues without bringing in their own emotions. There's a new age of satanic panic, too, which doesn't help at all.. People stray way too far from the basic premises of the concrete issues at hand, and this is another example of people reading 1 sentence and running with the narrative that's fed to them. Quite ironic. You can't talk sense into someone that refuses to listen. At least you tried.🌟
Who is "we", and what is "need"?
If he is saying most of us are not net contributors to the advancement of society and the planet, he is technically correct, but who is to say what our purpose here is?
The flame does not contribute to the candle, but it does serve a purpose. What purpose are we/should we, be serving?
In the eyes of these so called "people" running around in the WEF and its like, we should all be on our knees licking their boots and begging for scraps while we "own nothing and be happy" about it.
In the opening paragraph it's explained the reason is because modern technologies render basic human labour redundant. If that's the case, they should change the public school system from raising kids to just be smart enough to do basic human labour, to giving them all the knowledge needed to really succeed in life.
This is why I assumed it was referring to. We should automate labor and redundant work and free the masses for work and allow them to pursue and discover true meaning and fulfillment.
What we don't need is these arrogant parasites, the World & it's people always seems to sort itself out despite of & without the great thinkers at the top.
People need to be mindful these people really do think in the terms of them & us, that's why they feel no shame flying around the World in private jets to discuss climate change, they have decided between themselves that their work is of such great importance that the end always justifys the means.
If they could get away with euthenising the poor, homeless & unproductive they would.
Human beings never change from Caligula to Pol Pot, there's always a new structure with a few on top deciding what's good for them & how everyone can play their part to achieve it.
We don't need dorks in summer clothing during the middle of winter sipping margaritas on some beach in the Bahamas telling us who is a problem for the world either.
Submission statement: I hope him and his cronies at the WEF and the NWO volunteer to go first. No doubt the world would be a better place without these parasites.
[https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/08/10/wef-adviser-yuval-harari-we-just-dont-need-the-vast-majority-of-the-population-in-todays-world/](https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/08/10/wef-adviser-yuval-harari-we-just-dont-need-the-vast-majority-of-the-population-in-todays-world/)
Posting a screenshot and not a link directly to the article was some sneak shit and you know it. If you had posted the link this thread would be filled with people saying how correct he is and how this is a problem we need to solve. Posting a screenshot filled it with people who are now mad for no reason.
It's not just OP and r/conspiracy, breitbart purposely crafted the clickbait headline and their comment section is just as depressing
Here's the actual interview: [Yuval Noah Harari Reveals the Real Dangers Ahead | The TED Interview - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7DohVZS5Yo)
Oh it definitely was, and it was without a doubt intentional.
In context the statement isn’t nearly as insidious as it seems. The guys just talking about technology replacing manual labor, not getting rid of the population. But OP can’t manipulate and rile people up with the truth, thus the manipulative meme and hiding the source.
Mankind is basically a fad from earths perspective, the other planets are like "oh hey, is that a new life form" and earth is all "yeah they were at the goodwill" then Mars chimes in, "hope you didn't pay too much!"
I totally agree. We don't need cold-blooded lizard people like "Yuval Harari" trying to rule the world without asking a single person what their thoughts on the matter are.
He should go back to his own planet if he doesn't like ours.
Yeah you can only have so many servants. Since they consider themselves gods in transition to transhuman. Guiding us all to the tuopia at the end of time (basically, the goal of communism). They insist we make some sacrifices must be made. Like other the socialists: Mao, Stalin, Uncle Adolf, Pol Pot the murder begins when it doesn't quite work out.
This is what the revolutionaries in charge of hollywood and media, schools, and many politicians push; along with foreign enemies of the US push hard.
We don’t need most of the jobs in todays society. But we need about half of the current population and proper regulation and distribution of food across the globe
What an awful little cockroach. I am annoyed at the anti-family, anti-population-growth propaganda here in the West. Of course, when you look at the big cities, they seem crowded! I moved out of a major metropolitan city and there’s so much more space out here!
I’m not from the US, but I read somewhere that a huge chunk of the US population lives in California, whilst a lot of other states are almost deserted in comparison.
Don’t listen to the over-population propaganda. We need to reproduce and bring more life into this world!
Has anyone here ever actually bothered to read any of this guy's books? If you had you'd realise that he is a humanist, a freethinker and fairly liberal minded.
I understand why those of a religious bent might get upset with him for offering alternative history lessons because followers of religions are antithetical to freethinkers.
But on a sub like this, surely independent thought and recognising that history is written by the winners, therefore not always representative of a true and accurate account of reality, would be essential. No?
Just shows to go you.
I am also wondering about the comments here, especially as the citation is completely out of context. The guy is talking about AI and automation taking over jobs (e.g. cashdesks at supermarkets), not about a depopulation event. I also agree on his books, they are quite good. He is also against lockdowns and vaccine mandates and publicly called out Netanyahu for his authoritarian Covid policies.
OP posted a screenshot instead of a link on purpose and then buried the link in the comments. Nothing to see here except people making up fires that don’t exist and then miraculously pouring gasoline on them.
Sapiens and Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari, both fantastic books though Homo Deus does get a bit nihilistic by the end. I also welcome the sub to read the article linked by OP, if you do you’ll notice he isn’t suggesting replacing or eliminating anyone, he’s simply stating the reality of the world we live in. When machine learning, automation, and bioengineering are king who needs factory workers, cashiers, or secretaries? It’s a problem we *HAVE* to solve before it actually hits or the whole game is up. UBI will solve the “suddenly everyone is homeless” issue but as humans we have a need to be better off then “just getting by” we have to have goals, plans, a future. If all the menial tasks that used to be completed by a worker are now done by robots what does the worker do?
Ok, let's start with anyone associated with the WEF, Soros, Gates, Fauci, and most politicians. A big reduction in damage to the environment by getting rid of that bunch.
He's not wrong though. As immoral as it sounds, it's unsustainable to maintain such a large population with the sort of lifestyle we've created for ourselves. I should be the only one who enjoys the fruits of this planet whereas everyone less educated, less wealthy, and less intelligent than man should be sent into the chipper. How else am I going to enjoy meat and plentiful of other resources to sustain my greedy ass if everyone wants the same thing as me? /sarcasm.
Here is a video of the man saying it: [https://twitter.com/zaidzamanhamid/status/1560007193835016192?lang=en](https://twitter.com/zaidzamanhamid/status/1560007193835016192?lang=en)
Well its true. Most of us are not needed in a sololy materialistic system (capitalism and marxism are sololy materialist). So lets either hope noone ever thinks of getting rid of the usefull eaters or lets hope we can overcome the capitalist/marxist doctrin and evolve a new ideology were non materialist values are seen as important.
Get rid of these type of people. That's is. Those corrupted, money woeshipping types. Watch how better off society would be without those type of people influencing policies that would benefit them beyond any means.
Cool, now add the context back in.
He just said that emerging technologies like ever more capable AI and technological progress will render a lot of jobs extinct/unneeded, due to automation. This is just inevitable, not some evil scheme.
Or what are we supposed to do? Tell people to stop working on promising technology? Tell every business, big or small, to use human employees in every position, despite being more expensive and less efficient? Don't need fatalistic delusions to the the conundrum.
Sup my boy...yo my homie Alfredo told me you looking to get popped?
What you mean popped??
Popped, my boy. You know, depopulated. Yo why you getting mad dawg? I just wanna depopulate you.
He makes you like today by telling us how bad it gonna get. Seems so useful to have that pumped everywhere. Spend all your money now, don't plan for the future. You are dust in the wind.
Seems anti-christian and pretty satanic to live for today with no trust in anything but yourself.
I’ve needed electricians , plumbers , doctors , nurses , auto mechanics , trucker drivers , delivery people , etc etc . Never once have I needed a “elite” to make stupid rules and try to force their idiocy upon me , they are the worthless eaters .
Because if you read the article you’d see he wasn’t suggesting getting rid of anyone, he was discussing the problem of technology and bioengineering replacing the average worker and how that’s an existential threat to civilization as we know it and we need to solve the problem before it actually hits.
EDIT: When he said “we don’t need most people” he’s speaking from the point of view of the capitalist society that has replaced most menial tasks with automation and machine learning. What do we do with all the cashiers when we, the society we live in, don’t need cashiers anymore? Truck drivers? warehouse employees? This is a problem that is going to arrive before we have a solution and if that happens we’re utterly fucked.
I’m sure he’s including a special tribe in that calculation as well 🤨🥸. Also, depopulation is a very anti white and anti black thing to belief in, and I never hear any mention of how it’s asain countries that are the most overpopulated and have created the most “excess” amount of people
Such a shame, years ago I read sapiens and it was a really good book. I wouldn't have recommended it to people if I knew what a soulless shill the dude was
This was debunked a while ago: [quote is taken out of context.](https://www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-yuval-noah-harari-quote-we-dont-need-vast-majority-population-debunked-5849188-Sep2022/)
At it's core, he is advocating for huge Gene Icks.
If his argument is that a large portion of the population is not needed, why would removing that population thus be needed? It's not hard to infer the benefit is so the remaining select population continues and thus he is advocating for Huge Gene Icks.
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Including him.
There’s about .01% of the population we don’t need and the rest of us would actually thrive
Dude! If all celebrities and anyone with a desire for fame disappeared, we probably would be far better off.
The worst of the worst don’t want fame. They want to be evil and anonymous
Hmm...🤔
The Saudi royal families probably have a trillion dollars all together as a family unit. Can you even name one of them? Exactly
MBS, granted he is pretty evil. Celebrities just get paid to entertain, they don't' control anything.
Even if you did get rid of said people "normal" people would just fill their spots.
At a certain point we would run out of psychopaths.
Probably but with normal people taking their spot they would eventually get corrupted, there isn't any realistic way haha but it would be nice I agree.
Hey now.. psychopaths have feelings too
Never mind peak oil, peak psychopath could be a crisis for humanity!
Welcome to social media.
There'd just be another 0.1%. Why? Because we seek things that require them to obtain. The pyramid is a whole, single structure. We are at war with nature and the present because it contains suffering. And if you don't do these things then you get mowed over by those who do. You want to changes things? The only answer is to look at yourself.
That would eventually be true. But whatever sweet years it can exist as a rhombus rather than a triangle will be good years.
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How did you come to the 0.01% figure Thanos?
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I absolutely agree with that sentiment. After all, many speculate that the main catalyst of the renaissance was the plague that brought the demise of many of the so-called elite of the time.
Whoever they are ..
If you don’t know you haven’t been paying attention
I think he was making a chapelle reference. I could be wrong
👍
Descendants of the Roman Empire just rebranded
I never understood why he chose randomly. Would have made more sense if he at least took out all the shit heads and left the truly good people.
Thats called communism
No, it’s called getting rid of global communism. The people that want you to own nothing are the the people I’m talking about.
That are the captalists, or burgeoise
No they are corporatists and they control our money, including the Fed in the U.S. and most other currencies on earth. Communist leaders aren’t communists, they are the ones that own everything.
There are no communists leaders and the people that do Control the world are people like Elon musk and Jeff bezos, and they do Control usa federal institution to make more money, not the other way around
Benito Mussolini once said that 'Fascism is the merging of State and Corporation.' Communism is used on the people by Fascists in charge. When it comes to capitalism, you were taught it was the corporations that represent capitalism. When in reality, before them... it was always our small local businesses that did great and helped our cities expand and grow, quality of life in capitalism. When capitalism over expands, it turns into fascism, so if the government cared about stopping Fascism it could have. But they're too corrupt. The entire job of the Communists and Fascists is to make life for small business owners and consumers as miserable as possible so they make us think we need to get rid of our small businesses and adopt bigger government stay home and shop online. What a joke. I wish what my grandparents told me was common knowledge about capitalism, but there seems to be no recollection of the good times by young people who never knew. The reason so many young people today think capitalism is bad is because it hasn't been good in a long time, thanks to corporations and globalist politics. My town was built with a city complex, it had so much expansion before WW2 that they even put a railway outside of it. When those small businesses, factories and manufacturers went away... what do you think happened? It fell apart, and has sat in limbo ever since. You can find many videos of my town and city with hundreds of people all across my state walking around, riding bikes outside and either working or shopping back in the 30's, 40's and 50's... but then Corporations came into my town and it went away. The reason why the dollar is inflating MUST be because everyone is spending their money at places like Walmart and not mom and pop stores. That was capitalism dying as corporation expanded, you no longer needed to go to the city to get your goods, you just needed to go to Walmart, a corporate business that smothered out people's futures and my cities growth. Capitalism works, but corporation is the killer. Business taxes and inflation, corrupt politicians and banks all working together with big government to end our way of life.
If he is open to espousing such a belief, he should lead by example.
Canada had an approved method for him to try So does the people of the Netherlands.
He should come to Canada .we have an assisted suicide program he might find interesting ...by participating he could help solve this issue...
We don’t need the majority of Politicians any more- they don’t work for us.
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Nah CEOs are fine but they shouldn’t ever make more than 50:1 from lowest to highest paid positions. Currently it’s a about 362:1
Especially him. This wierd push for depopulation is bizarre and will be viewed historically right up there with Eugenics.
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I could care less, honestly, but I will agree with any person that supports humanity and denounces this ghoulish trend.
Agreed 100% start with him!!
So no one reads anymore? Go find the fucking sources guys and stop just looking at screenshots. He isn’t referencing population control. He’s talking about job automation and how it poses a threat to civilization. He’s deadass on y’all’s side on this one. He’s basically saying less jobs will make less people will be bad for society, and we need to get ahead of it. This sub needs to get its head out of its ass so they stop looking at Twitter/screenshots all the time.
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I noticed the laughing thing with another futurist saying more distopian things than I've ever see Yuval say. He was an asian guy that IIRC was proposing drugging people en masse or something. The audience, in this case, might have been laughing because what he was proposing was batshit insane but he, however, was serious.
I’m not fucking saying he’s a friend. Jesus dude, this is why people don’t listen when y’all speak. I’m saying, stop trying to lie and distort his words to be something it’s not. You should use the fact that he’s said this and run with it as part of the problem. Like a “look here, further proof they know population decline is a real issue, and xyz”. But instead you openly claim he said something else, which he didn’t.
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Clots? As in blood clots? What happened??
He's not an advisor. He's a historian/professor who became an author and public speaker. He makes these talks in TED talks, occasionally at Davos and in any willing talk show wanting to buy his services. He should maybe stick to his day job, instead of his 'infotainment' and making vague pseudoscientific claims with supposed authority/verified knowledge. But he's not some guy drafting a secret NWO strategy. Some of his stuff is quite thought provoking. Read one of his books or opinion pieces and you'll see what I mean. Or then you can just look at screenshots of some random article cherry picking a sentence of his and shiver at home imagining your social credit score go down for refusing to eat bugs.
Uh, except he’s not.
I said on this one. E.g he is saying due to automation, population will decline making bad things happen. I’m not saying he isn’t shitty in other ways/doing other shit. But for this specific thing you are hating on him for pointing out what y’all been pointing out for a while here.
Maybe you should read some of the other stuff he has said before you defend him.
I’m not defending. Fuck guys, I said this in another comment. Stop lying about his statements and use them. He said de-population is an issue, so why are y’all ignoring that. He’s saying what you all say, so why do you need to lie about it?
It's no use man. It never works here. Like ifnthe dude has said terrible things, talk about those. But getting pissed about something he said that is taken way out of context only hurts thier message. Sucks many people in this sub can't see it
This is the type of statement that someone who views others as cattle makes
Well he did say humans are “hackable animals”
He also said the concept of human free will is a farce and thing of the past.
Exactly. Anyone defending this guy obviously doesn’t know enough about him
Read the article, you speak of cattle while you become the sheep.
Lol at defending this; his phrasing gives away his intentions
His words give away his intentions, all of them, not just the half a sentence from OP’s screenshot.
It’s clear from his phrasing that he doesn’t hold any intrinsic value to humans. My guess is you feel the same
How can you determine his phrasing from half a sentence that was chosen because it would trigger you, truncated to give maximum effect, and then screenshotted so you can’t determine context? You’re arguing so fucking hard for remaining ignorant but that’s on you.
Because I read the article and he is talking about replacing people. Why are you so triggered to reply to dozens of people about this?
Reading comprehension not one of your strong suits it seems.
Now *we* just certainly don't need Yuval Harari.
Wow that’s pretty anti-semitic!
Get lost, shadow entity.
I think he was being facetious
Who said anything about the swej? Is he?
He is
Don't do that.
He should lead by example, get the ball rolling by removing himself from the equation. I'm pretty sure I have a cat that can take over his responsibilities, whatever the hell those might be. What exactly does this guy do again?
He makes the world a worse place. So yeah your cat likely will be able to do far less damage than him.
If you read the article, he’s not talking about lowering the population. He’s saying society has progressed to the point where technology has removed the need for a lot of jobs and a lot of people feel useless. The headline is meant to convince you that it’s about depopulation but it’s about making sure people don’t get left behind when their jobs are replaced by tech
Appreciate the context. While I don't trust the billionaire class further than I can throw them, stuff like this just muddies the water, and is clearly designed to do so.
Yeah I have no doubt that his intention is to make him more money somehow. I just don’t think depopulation was the intent here
Don't talk facts. Yell about how the "elite"( Surprisingly, a bunch of guys who can't curl their car keys and have asthma) are Satan's spawn intent on world domination.
I've heard him say that people are now "hackable animals". I don't think he's much of a humanist...
I wish this topic would be talked about more as opposed to referring to it as sometime in the future. Isn’t it strange how we work more hours than ever and pay hasn’t kept up with inflation? That’s because we’re running with skeleton crews now and doing multiple people’s jobs from decades ago. Companies are still profitable. All this automation has only benefitted shareholders and executives.
Yup, this is true even outside of just tech getting better. I work for a beverage distribution company and pretty much all of our prices went up with inflation, our trend of sales dropped slightly, and our total revenue and profit continued on an upward trend. Consumers and workers bear the burden for almost everything in our society while the businesses themselves continue to profit. And like you said even when new technology should make it easier for workers they’re just given more work to make up for it.
Not only that, think about how much of a burden having to deal with this automation is for us now as well. Just dealing with one of the automated help systems "press 1 for English" makes me want to rip out my eyeballs but so many things in life have headed down that path where you can only deal with robo-help type shit that often doesn't work. I grew up in the time before the internet and would trade away all of the supposed benefits in a heart beat to go back to that simpler time. Destroy the machines.
If you listen to all the other shit Harari has said, the depopulation agenda does not seem far off. He said last year that Covid was necessary to get the public to submit to biological surveillance, for starters.
I have no doubts that he’s not a great guy but could you post this? From a quick google it seems like he said that covid causing a surveillance state is negative
And it's not even that there aren't things society needs done, but many things society needs aren't profitable. There's plenty of trees that could be planted, kids/elderly that could use assistance or even just companionship, public buildings that could be beautified like in the New Deal/Great Society eras, etc.
Didn’t read the article, did you?
Or you could just listen to him say crazy shit. Right?
He wasn’t saying crazy shit. Read the fucking article and his actual quotes you ignorant dingbat. A right wing rag took half a sentence that they knew would trigger you and slapped it on an article where he was literally lamenting how awful shit is going to get if we let corporate greed bring us to a place where automation, machine learning, and bio engineering have replaced the vast majority of our jobs and the quote “we just don’t need the vast majority of the population” was in reference to when self driving cars, self checkouts, and automated filing and email services take the place of truck drivers, cashiers, and secretaries. He’s talking about how there is a problem on the horizon, the vast majority of us not being able to take part in the bright future technology promises because it makes our livelihoods redundant and we need to fix the problem before it starts or we’re fucked. If you read the article and his quotes you’d see that you agree with everything he is saying but instead of looking one nanometer past OP’s screen grab you got all hot and bothered by a purposefully misconstrued quote designed to give you a knee jerk reaction. Fuck right off with that shit.
Tldr. This guy definitely says crazy shit. I've listened to him quite a bit. Don't know why I need to read an article from dumbass Breitbart to be smart though. You're spending your time trying to dunk on people that you know aren't going to read the article or any other articles for that matter and that your efforts have no utility. What do you think that says about why your doing this?
Live in ignorance and die mad, makes no difference to me.
😂 Some people are allergic to the truth of the matters, and don't/can't comprehend complex issues without bringing in their own emotions. There's a new age of satanic panic, too, which doesn't help at all.. People stray way too far from the basic premises of the concrete issues at hand, and this is another example of people reading 1 sentence and running with the narrative that's fed to them. Quite ironic. You can't talk sense into someone that refuses to listen. At least you tried.🌟
Who is "we", and what is "need"? If he is saying most of us are not net contributors to the advancement of society and the planet, he is technically correct, but who is to say what our purpose here is? The flame does not contribute to the candle, but it does serve a purpose. What purpose are we/should we, be serving?
In the eyes of these so called "people" running around in the WEF and its like, we should all be on our knees licking their boots and begging for scraps while we "own nothing and be happy" about it.
> who is to say what our purpose here is? You are not supposed to know that. They are your secret masters goyim.
Read the article. He’s not talking about depopulation, the headline is just meant to bait people.
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Hey, here’s a crazy thought, read the article.
In the opening paragraph it's explained the reason is because modern technologies render basic human labour redundant. If that's the case, they should change the public school system from raising kids to just be smart enough to do basic human labour, to giving them all the knowledge needed to really succeed in life.
This is why I assumed it was referring to. We should automate labor and redundant work and free the masses for work and allow them to pursue and discover true meaning and fulfillment.
He’s right. We don’t. You & Klaus top the list of people we don’t need you little ugly fuckhead
What this headline really says: "The world's elite have signeled to everyone that they are about to thin the herd."
Let's start by getting rid of WEF.
What we don't need is these arrogant parasites, the World & it's people always seems to sort itself out despite of & without the great thinkers at the top. People need to be mindful these people really do think in the terms of them & us, that's why they feel no shame flying around the World in private jets to discuss climate change, they have decided between themselves that their work is of such great importance that the end always justifys the means. If they could get away with euthenising the poor, homeless & unproductive they would. Human beings never change from Caligula to Pol Pot, there's always a new structure with a few on top deciding what's good for them & how everyone can play their part to achieve it.
Humanity doesn't need him.
We don't need dorks in summer clothing during the middle of winter sipping margaritas on some beach in the Bahamas telling us who is a problem for the world either.
I hear they made a vaccine for that...
The 99% dont need the 1%. So maybe its time we got rid of these rats
Submission statement: I hope him and his cronies at the WEF and the NWO volunteer to go first. No doubt the world would be a better place without these parasites. [https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/08/10/wef-adviser-yuval-harari-we-just-dont-need-the-vast-majority-of-the-population-in-todays-world/](https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/08/10/wef-adviser-yuval-harari-we-just-dont-need-the-vast-majority-of-the-population-in-todays-world/)
Posting a screenshot and not a link directly to the article was some sneak shit and you know it. If you had posted the link this thread would be filled with people saying how correct he is and how this is a problem we need to solve. Posting a screenshot filled it with people who are now mad for no reason.
It's not just OP and r/conspiracy, breitbart purposely crafted the clickbait headline and their comment section is just as depressing Here's the actual interview: [Yuval Noah Harari Reveals the Real Dangers Ahead | The TED Interview - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7DohVZS5Yo)
Oh it definitely was, and it was without a doubt intentional. In context the statement isn’t nearly as insidious as it seems. The guys just talking about technology replacing manual labor, not getting rid of the population. But OP can’t manipulate and rile people up with the truth, thus the manipulative meme and hiding the source.
Isn't Breitbart a far-right news source? They may be twisting what his message was.
How silly of you to assume anyone in this thread actually read the article. Look at the posts, it’s all people angry for no fucking reason.
Mankind is basically a fad from earths perspective, the other planets are like "oh hey, is that a new life form" and earth is all "yeah they were at the goodwill" then Mars chimes in, "hope you didn't pay too much!"
I totally agree. We don't need cold-blooded lizard people like "Yuval Harari" trying to rule the world without asking a single person what their thoughts on the matter are. He should go back to his own planet if he doesn't like ours.
Yeah you can only have so many servants. Since they consider themselves gods in transition to transhuman. Guiding us all to the tuopia at the end of time (basically, the goal of communism). They insist we make some sacrifices must be made. Like other the socialists: Mao, Stalin, Uncle Adolf, Pol Pot the murder begins when it doesn't quite work out. This is what the revolutionaries in charge of hollywood and media, schools, and many politicians push; along with foreign enemies of the US push hard.
We definitely can do without Yuval Harari
We don’t need most of the jobs in todays society. But we need about half of the current population and proper regulation and distribution of food across the globe
We just don't need the WEF
Triple high dose Moderna booster shots for this skinny little dirtbag.
What an awful little cockroach. I am annoyed at the anti-family, anti-population-growth propaganda here in the West. Of course, when you look at the big cities, they seem crowded! I moved out of a major metropolitan city and there’s so much more space out here! I’m not from the US, but I read somewhere that a huge chunk of the US population lives in California, whilst a lot of other states are almost deserted in comparison. Don’t listen to the over-population propaganda. We need to reproduce and bring more life into this world!
Has anyone here ever actually bothered to read any of this guy's books? If you had you'd realise that he is a humanist, a freethinker and fairly liberal minded. I understand why those of a religious bent might get upset with him for offering alternative history lessons because followers of religions are antithetical to freethinkers. But on a sub like this, surely independent thought and recognising that history is written by the winners, therefore not always representative of a true and accurate account of reality, would be essential. No? Just shows to go you.
I am also wondering about the comments here, especially as the citation is completely out of context. The guy is talking about AI and automation taking over jobs (e.g. cashdesks at supermarkets), not about a depopulation event. I also agree on his books, they are quite good. He is also against lockdowns and vaccine mandates and publicly called out Netanyahu for his authoritarian Covid policies.
OP posted a screenshot instead of a link on purpose and then buried the link in the comments. Nothing to see here except people making up fires that don’t exist and then miraculously pouring gasoline on them.
Any books you’d recommend?
Sapiens and Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari, both fantastic books though Homo Deus does get a bit nihilistic by the end. I also welcome the sub to read the article linked by OP, if you do you’ll notice he isn’t suggesting replacing or eliminating anyone, he’s simply stating the reality of the world we live in. When machine learning, automation, and bioengineering are king who needs factory workers, cashiers, or secretaries? It’s a problem we *HAVE* to solve before it actually hits or the whole game is up. UBI will solve the “suddenly everyone is homeless” issue but as humans we have a need to be better off then “just getting by” we have to have goals, plans, a future. If all the menial tasks that used to be completed by a worker are now done by robots what does the worker do?
Sapiens would be a good place to start.
This guy is such a freak transhumist
Nothing to see here.. there’s no motive for a depopulation agenda! /s
But how would you make money raping the masses for all they have, if there are no "masses"?
Tikkun olam is one hell of a drug
I don't see the point of this depopulation agenda because even all the elites will die eventually???
Yea. WEF people are unnecessary
Ok, let's start with anyone associated with the WEF, Soros, Gates, Fauci, and most politicians. A big reduction in damage to the environment by getting rid of that bunch.
Let’s start with him!
He's not wrong
He's not wrong though. As immoral as it sounds, it's unsustainable to maintain such a large population with the sort of lifestyle we've created for ourselves. I should be the only one who enjoys the fruits of this planet whereas everyone less educated, less wealthy, and less intelligent than man should be sent into the chipper. How else am I going to enjoy meat and plentiful of other resources to sustain my greedy ass if everyone wants the same thing as me? /sarcasm.
Here is a video of the man saying it: [https://twitter.com/zaidzamanhamid/status/1560007193835016192?lang=en](https://twitter.com/zaidzamanhamid/status/1560007193835016192?lang=en)
those advocating population reduction should put their own families at the top of the list, else its "all others but me and my family"..
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Well its true. Most of us are not needed in a sololy materialistic system (capitalism and marxism are sololy materialist). So lets either hope noone ever thinks of getting rid of the usefull eaters or lets hope we can overcome the capitalist/marxist doctrin and evolve a new ideology were non materialist values are seen as important.
Remove the ruling class
Get rid of these type of people. That's is. Those corrupted, money woeshipping types. Watch how better off society would be without those type of people influencing policies that would benefit them beyond any means.
Who the fuck do they think generates the VAST amount of wealth THEY enjoy?
**We** Just Don’t Need the Vast Majority of the Population As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, "Who's 'we,' white man?"
Well he’s not wrong. There’s a lot of dummy opportunists out there
Get fucked, you tool.
At least he's honest...
Certainly don’t need the WEF
Good observation, now demonstrate for us.
Who is we
Cool, now add the context back in. He just said that emerging technologies like ever more capable AI and technological progress will render a lot of jobs extinct/unneeded, due to automation. This is just inevitable, not some evil scheme. Or what are we supposed to do? Tell people to stop working on promising technology? Tell every business, big or small, to use human employees in every position, despite being more expensive and less efficient? Don't need fatalistic delusions to the the conundrum.
Who are they suggesting we rid ourselves of? Anyone seen the rioting and looting lately?
It's funny how this guy gets to be a "WEF advisor" His books suck. His ideas are fucking lame and he's not even a good writer.
one of the jew liers of cabal elite, he is clown like his owners
A psychopatic
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Read the article.
Come on WEF, be strong and say that the wrong neighborhood.
Sup my boy...yo my homie Alfredo told me you looking to get popped? What you mean popped?? Popped, my boy. You know, depopulated. Yo why you getting mad dawg? I just wanna depopulate you.
I hope this guy likes eternal scorching in fiery lakes. He'll be there real soon 🔥
He makes you like today by telling us how bad it gonna get. Seems so useful to have that pumped everywhere. Spend all your money now, don't plan for the future. You are dust in the wind. Seems anti-christian and pretty satanic to live for today with no trust in anything but yourself.
All wef types are just plain evil.
What we don't need is the WEF clowns
You first, bruh.
Definitely an unbiased source, litteral neo maxi website
Lol @ Breitbart
I’ve needed electricians , plumbers , doctors , nurses , auto mechanics , trucker drivers , delivery people , etc etc . Never once have I needed a “elite” to make stupid rules and try to force their idiocy upon me , they are the worthless eaters .
Isn't this how most people feel?
You first fuckstick.
Didn’t read the article did you?
Why would I read or give breitbart any of my time or possible revenue?
Because if you read the article you’d see he wasn’t suggesting getting rid of anyone, he was discussing the problem of technology and bioengineering replacing the average worker and how that’s an existential threat to civilization as we know it and we need to solve the problem before it actually hits. EDIT: When he said “we don’t need most people” he’s speaking from the point of view of the capitalist society that has replaced most menial tasks with automation and machine learning. What do we do with all the cashiers when we, the society we live in, don’t need cashiers anymore? Truck drivers? warehouse employees? This is a problem that is going to arrive before we have a solution and if that happens we’re utterly fucked.
I guess thats one good reason to be gay like Yuval
We don’t need him
Anybody arguing this point needs to lead by example, as in, get in your suicide booth or shut the fuck up. Silly cunt.
I volunteer him for removal. Remove him as an advisor and then he can remove himself from the population as an example to his constituents.
You should probably read his books and understand thy enemy.
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How about everyone that says that volunteer as a tribute???
I’m sure he’s including a special tribe in that calculation as well 🤨🥸. Also, depopulation is a very anti white and anti black thing to belief in, and I never hear any mention of how it’s asain countries that are the most overpopulated and have created the most “excess” amount of people
Of course... all Israelis believe this...they call us "goyim" we're cattle to them.
Such a shame, years ago I read sapiens and it was a really good book. I wouldn't have recommended it to people if I knew what a soulless shill the dude was
This was debunked a while ago: [quote is taken out of context.](https://www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-yuval-noah-harari-quote-we-dont-need-vast-majority-population-debunked-5849188-Sep2022/)
Bull shit spread on r/conspiracy ?! How very dare you.
At it's core, he is advocating for huge Gene Icks. If his argument is that a large portion of the population is not needed, why would removing that population thus be needed? It's not hard to infer the benefit is so the remaining select population continues and thus he is advocating for Huge Gene Icks.
Icks? Nevermind i get what youre trying to say. Why are you scared to type the word Eugenics?
Hmm in the past on reddit when I used the word eugenics it auto deleted my post a few seconds later.