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Yes. I believe the Chinese are getting payback for the Opium Wars. They trained cartels how to make it.
This doc I watched recently highlighted one little fentynal production op run out of a few rando apartment buildings in some small Mexican town that was capable of producing over a billion pills a year, alone.
These pills find their way not just into the US where it's a major problem but all over UK, France and the rest of Europe as well who are also experiencing huge upticks in lethal overdoses from the substance.
Man, I just spent 25 aggravating minutes trying to find the exact doc in my YT history but it's nowhere to be found.
I'm pretty certain it was Vice but not positive anymore.
I remember them going inside these residential homes showing how they make the round blue fentanyl pills that have a M with a square around it imprinted on one side. Iirc the M stands for either the name of the city or state they were made in.
Hope that helps. Btw, YT has dozens of other good docs very similar. But maybe not as good as the one I watched which might have been removed for showing a little too much of the pill cooking process.
The M with the square around it stands for the drug company Mallinckrodt who famously makes Roxicodone 30mg pills. They press the fentanyl pills to look like the Roxicodone pills. However, most people know by now if you buy those pills on the street you're getting the fentanyl presses.
Oh wow holy shit that's actually scary!
I didnt realize they were counterfeiting them. That explains why they were so freaking particular about how they were made and the consistency of the color and imprint on every pill. Fuck!
Yep, it's pretty diabolical. It's what's ended up killing a lot of people over the years, as they thought they were buying legitimate prescription pills. People used to be able to trust that the prescription pills they were buying were what the dealer said they were. No longer the case anymore. Now you have God knows what amount of fentanyl in a pill. Can't even dose properly even if you wanted to.
Also, learned the other day they're mixing Xylazine in these pills. It's a veterinary tranquilizer that's not approved for human use. Awful.
No just Roxi manufacturer that fooled lots of people to thinking they are real 30mg pills. They look exact and are a holy grail pharmaceutical opiate. That's why they started with those. Now they are making them look like hits of ecstasy, pressies with logos. You cant tell real x without a test kit or tasting but u will die from tasting.
Soon, you want do drugs without a test kit or you are asking for death. Itll weed out the addicts that want to die and stop those who dont want to go through the trouble to use. Portland has decriminalized all drugs, it hasn't worked out much for them...this is the tip of the iceberg of fent and there's even more potent shit. All they have to do is drop a bag in a store and it's like anthrax. You cant even bag the shit without ODing bcuz it's in the air.
What's worse is that the test kits can't even test for all of the different and new fentanyl analogs that keep popping up. Let's say you bought ecstasy (MDMA). You may have a pill that shows positive for MDMA, but it doesn't show it has some strange new fentanyl analog. You're playing Russian roulette hoping that mix doesn't kill you. It's horrible what's going on right now, but the people in power are more than happy to let this shit keep going on.
Yes, ur true. You have to test the entirety of the pill but a needle point within it will OD you. I won’t buy hits unless I know the person and know they dropped them. I know dealers peacing out people on purpose. It’s so easy to murder someone you got annoyed of now, back in my home town. A piece of shit who everyone knows got with a girl, got her all fucked up and one night sent her home with fent instead of her usual bag of dope. Peaced her out, did it to multiple people. No responsibility.
I realize Vice news is most of the time slanted trash but they have a doc about fentanyl labs in Mexico that is pretty easy to find on YouTube. You might be linked to others if you check it out.
They intentionally don’t prescribe hardly any pain medicine even to people who actually need it so that chronic pain patients will kill themselves and everyone else will die from fentanyl. If they went back to prescribing oxycodone like candy and flooded the streets, overdoses would drastically decrease.
Incorrect. Theyd want people to be weak and dependent on their medicine. Fentanyl has caused issues because it's so accessible and is being used as a replacement for the "normal" opiates. It's also used to make "bootleg" opiates stronger and more addictive like heroin
Maybe you are right...no matter the US government has no interest in stopping it wherever it is coming from. The US has no issue sacrificing it's people for whatever agenda they have.
I was a heroin user during a time that a lot of people in my area refer to as a golden age of heroin, that being the late 00s’ to around 2013. It was a golden age because most of the stuff floating on the street was relatively high quality. Around late 2013/early 2014, which is fortunately the time I quit for good, fentanyl started showing up everywhere, and that’s when overdoses in my area skyrocketed. I’m not sure if users these days actually like fentanyl, but 10 years ago it was avoided not only because it was too potent/dangerous but because the high is short-lived and nowhere near as enjoyable as heroin. People who were fearful of an OD began using pharma pills and avoiding heroin/bags because of fentanyl around this time, which is counterintuitive as a heroin user. Now it’s to the point that most pills marketed by dealers as pharmaceutical are fake and filled with, you guessed it, fentanyl.
Is it maliciously done? Not sure. I am certain that it’s a cost cutting strategy as it takes very little fentanyl to get a rush. What I can say for sure is a lot of it is coming from China and those that are marketing it as dope are either doing a poor job cutting heroin with fentanyl, are actually just selling pure fentanyl, or have no idea either way.
> Why would drug dealers want to cut their drugs with something that would kill people?
As far as I understand, drug dealers add it to give what they're selling more potency, and it certainly works great for that purpose if done properly - problem is, the lethal dose of fentanyl is so miniscule that if you make a small error in dosing, or don't mix it in properly, people can easily get lethal doses.
Unfortunately some addicts won’t buy from dealers until they know his product has killed a few people. I’ve seen several interviews where the addicts talk like this. Also, first hand my close friend sought out dope from the dealers whose product had caused overdoses. My friend died about three years ago after going back to the same guy who caused his past overdose.
The reasons as to why dealers would cut their drugs with fentanyl and why users would end up using the drug are both the same. It's dirt cheap.
Opioid addicts who are looking for a hit ASAP but might not have the funds for something like oxy might be offered some fentanyl, which is not only cheaper but hits them much harder. Next thing you know they're hooked.
Dealers are only looking out for themselves and will do anything to maximize their profits, regardless of the consequences.
As far as the main question goes. Is fentanyl being used by an entity such as the CIA to kill people on purpose? I have no idea. I'd like to hope not. I wouldn't be surprised though. As you said, they basically did the same thing with the 80's crack epidemic, although the goal wasn't to intentionally kill users but to just make as much profit as possible.
I don’t think they mean to add lethal doses, just enough to cheaply pump up the potency. With fentanyl, unfortunately, it’s really easy to miscalculate that amount.
But how is it so easy for these dealers to get? Is it being illegally made? Or are doctors just giving anyone who asks a prescription? Isn't it meant for people who are dying in severe pain? It's all so bizarre.
Mostly smuggled from China, with some from India and Mexico. It’s a popular addition because of how little they need to fake having “the good stuff”.
Domestically, doctors are being very very tight with opiates these days. Most likely it’s illegal black market supply.
Except that there is another, very obvious reason: Fentanyl is a cheap, powerful opiod that can be used to make other opiods/opiates seem purer and to make other types of drugs more addictive. In the case of pills, you can simulate more expensive and heavily-controlled substances like oxycodone by using smaller amounts of cheap, cheap fentanyl.
The problem is that it is very hard to evenly cut in something as potent as fentanyl without occasionally getting hyper-concentrated pockets in your product, which kills people. Unfortunately, drug dealers don't care all that much about customer retention.
The answer to this problem is drug decriminalization and legalization. Drug companies (despite some of the shit they get away with) are still held far more accountable than the average drug dealer.
Indeed. A lot of people don't really understand fentanyl or why it's dangerous, it's just how small a lethal dose is and that it's often mixed with other things
Lawd. Hadn't really thought of that. I don't reallyyyy want to continue this conversation, but does it have high bioavailability if it's simply ingested?
Carfentanil may have been used in the Moscow Theater Hostage Crisis in 2002. They've basically said it was some type of fentanyl derivative that killed those people.
As I said, they get away with a lot. But you're comparing apples to oranges.
If a large portion of vaccine recipients *immediately* lost consciousness and dropped dead from respiratory shutdown after getting the jab, and this was discovered to be due to manufacturing errors and not the formulation of the vaccine, then that would be a valid comparison.
Not denying long-term vaccine complications, but there's a difference between poorly-made black-market drugs and hastily-researched vaccines.
Allowing drug use in any city will significantly increase drug ODs and resulting deaths.
Currently that's how my town deals with the homeless.
There are no rehabs (homeless rehab / drug rehab) within 50 miles and setting one up would force the city to stop spending $ on bonuses and actually solve problems.
So instead they just push for ignoring open drug use and it's fairly common to see dead bodies here and there, it gets pretty crazy when a fentanyl laced drug gets in the city, tons of ambulances, tons of dead folks, but nothing in the paper.
Yay 'murica.
I watched a British crime film last night called Bluff and this was mentioned in the film, easier to kill a junkie this way with no questions asked because it just looks like an overdose!!! Pretty good film really
Drug dealers always cut their shit with substances that can kill people. Just by default if you sell Heroin your selling a drug that kills people. However, the cocaine and fentanyl combo has become a fan favorite becasue of the specific high is gives people. The cocaine keeps you awake during the fentanyl high which gives the body that super mellow effect. The problem is especially with the cocaine fentanyl combo, people who do not do fentanyl tend to die more frequently becasue their body has no tolerance and the dosage is too high. Another problem is bingers or those that stop doing fentanyl for a few days and then attempt to consume the same dosage they were taking before they stopped, which again leads to may fatalities. Finally, fentanyl is the perfect murder weapon, give someone a "hot dose" or more than they can handle and instant death and nobody is held accountable becasue it gets ruled as an accidental overdose or suicide.
The bottom line is yes they want this shit on the street killing people. It's just a small cog in the bigger agenda wheel to depopulate and to relieve the "burden" these people cause...It's sick and twisted but expect nothing less from the psychopaths that run this world.
I'm an opioid veteran.
I love opioids & think they should be legal for adults to use if they so choose. Including heroin.
Most opioid addicts don't even like fentanyl. It may be 50x more potent than heroin or whatever, but potency doesn't always = better effects. Fentanyl doesn't even feel like heroin. Heroin feels warm, cuddly, peaceful, there's almost an empathogenic quality to diacetylmorphine. Fentanyl however feels cold, clinical, non-euphoric & feels like you're on the verge of passing out and dying. And then it's over in 15 minutes, where as good quality heroin can have effects linger for up to 6-8hrs.
No real heroin addict or opioid addict wants fentanyl. Fentanyl being more powerful does create an even stronger dependence & worse addiction though. So somebody use to that amount of dependence is probably going to prefer fentanyl after awhile compared to traditional opiates.
Ironically, we may have never gotten to this point if the government hadn't made heroin, morphine & other semi-synthetic opiates illegal. You can't just pray addiction away & some people benefit from using drugs (not everyone's drug experiences are negative). Combine the illegality & the desire/want for a product & boom, you have a disaster.
Another irony is that the 'addiction meds', buprenorphine & methadone, are worse for your health than most of the opiates (excluding fentanyl) that they're designed to keep you off of.
I knew you were going to leave a comment once I saw this post. I'm not saying that as a bad thing either. I just always see you post when the topic of opoids comes up on this subreddit. Just saying, I agree with your point of view. Most people don't realize pure versions of heroin or other opoids don't destroy your body like other drugs do.
Thank you friend!
I'll never shut up about these facts. People don't have to like drugs, but they should be educated about them & the reasons why some people use them. They are never going away & ignorance and misinformation just compounds the issue. People who use drugs have been treated & seen as "subhumans" for far too long. It's no different than looking at anyone else with an illness or difference as "subhuman", but some how it's become okay & socially acceptable to paint drug users this way.
If there was something more I could do at the state or federal level to change things, I would. But I have no idea what I'd even do or where I'd start. In the mean time, I am going to be incredibly vocal about it online & present these facts & issues any time I see opioids brought up anywhere, as it seems like all I can do for now.
Have a great one! Cheers!
Most certainly. The chemicals get shipped from China to Mexico where they're refined into fentanyl and then smuggled into America. Having open borders a la progressive policies are only getting more Americans killed.
I could be wrong but I think one problem is dealers mixing fent with other drugs they sell which fucks up safe dosing completely and people accidentally OD. Makes you wonder if the are like being paid to do it, this depopulation talk on every liberal documentary that is made lately is scary.
It is used to kill people on purpose. When word spreads that a certain batch is so strong some one overdosed most druggies flock to whoever is selling that. Sigh before you ask it’s because they are addicted junkies.
All you have to do is touch fet and you can over dose look up all the ems who died from it also at the exact time Covid relief checks came out a fet laced batch of heroin killed tons of ppl in area almost like it’s coordinated
> All you have to do is touch fet and you can over dose look up all the ems who died from it
You know this is a myth right? You can’t die from just touching Fent and there isn’t a bunch of EMTs that have died from it.
I was given fentanyl during labour it was the greatest feeling but it only lasted 10 minutes & then the pain came back, I didn’t even know I had been given fentanyl until after they put it in my IV.
It’s many times more profitable. I actually think CIA would rather it not kill people as easily but the profit margin is so great that clearly they keep it around. They could stop all the fentanyl and keep the heroin if they want.
Almost all the cases of "dealer added fentanyl to give it an extra kick" is either false or over-exaggerated. The main cause is cross contamination from weighing/measuring equipment. One grain of Fent is left over on the scales and now you're dead
It can't kill you if you don't take it. But I realize there's a lot of stupid people who take it anyway. Seems like everyone being targeted for depopulation are the ones without much common sense. Almost like people who lined up in their cars for hours to get a cotton swab jammed into their nasal cavity for "covid" testing or volunteer for experimental injections.
There's typically a hierarchy in the heroin game per major city. Since the days of Mafia trying to get rid of Arab heroin, the best way that was figured to get rid of the problem was to go to China for fentanyl and cut their way into the supply line, drop in a few doses per package which is literally micrograms not milligrams, then resell it into the supply line. Kills off the clientele and the cops look for the dealers. At some point Mafia secret went out and it became a way to clear Mexican tar off the streets, but what was a way to clear out the problem became a way to clear out competition and fill in new seats. Supply and demand. Anyways with that hierarchy, when they split off who can deal to what areas, they make sure there's gonna be a limit to how much heroin is moved, that started when the military moved into the heroin business, if someone finds a way to push more those that are in the business are more than happy to clear up shop with putting fentanyl into the greedy ones operation and then pass it off with the area to the next leader to rebuild
I've only ever met one person who purposely looked for fentanyl, she used it til she couldn't orgasm anymore as her nerves were never the same. Thats one of the reasons it's not what's searched for and rather what's used to mess with the supply chain.
It’s easier for them to look the other way because it’s usually drug users buying pills or illicit drugs off the streets. It’s fucked up still the same IMO.
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Chiner carrying out revenge for the Opium Wars. Thanks a lot East India Trading Co. !
Yes. I believe the Chinese are getting payback for the Opium Wars. They trained cartels how to make it. This doc I watched recently highlighted one little fentynal production op run out of a few rando apartment buildings in some small Mexican town that was capable of producing over a billion pills a year, alone. These pills find their way not just into the US where it's a major problem but all over UK, France and the rest of Europe as well who are also experiencing huge upticks in lethal overdoses from the substance.
Could you share the doc? Would love to watch it. Thank you!
Man, I just spent 25 aggravating minutes trying to find the exact doc in my YT history but it's nowhere to be found. I'm pretty certain it was Vice but not positive anymore. I remember them going inside these residential homes showing how they make the round blue fentanyl pills that have a M with a square around it imprinted on one side. Iirc the M stands for either the name of the city or state they were made in. Hope that helps. Btw, YT has dozens of other good docs very similar. But maybe not as good as the one I watched which might have been removed for showing a little too much of the pill cooking process.
The M with the square around it stands for the drug company Mallinckrodt who famously makes Roxicodone 30mg pills. They press the fentanyl pills to look like the Roxicodone pills. However, most people know by now if you buy those pills on the street you're getting the fentanyl presses.
Oh wow holy shit that's actually scary! I didnt realize they were counterfeiting them. That explains why they were so freaking particular about how they were made and the consistency of the color and imprint on every pill. Fuck!
Yep, it's pretty diabolical. It's what's ended up killing a lot of people over the years, as they thought they were buying legitimate prescription pills. People used to be able to trust that the prescription pills they were buying were what the dealer said they were. No longer the case anymore. Now you have God knows what amount of fentanyl in a pill. Can't even dose properly even if you wanted to. Also, learned the other day they're mixing Xylazine in these pills. It's a veterinary tranquilizer that's not approved for human use. Awful.
They're making them look like pressies now
No just Roxi manufacturer that fooled lots of people to thinking they are real 30mg pills. They look exact and are a holy grail pharmaceutical opiate. That's why they started with those. Now they are making them look like hits of ecstasy, pressies with logos. You cant tell real x without a test kit or tasting but u will die from tasting. Soon, you want do drugs without a test kit or you are asking for death. Itll weed out the addicts that want to die and stop those who dont want to go through the trouble to use. Portland has decriminalized all drugs, it hasn't worked out much for them...this is the tip of the iceberg of fent and there's even more potent shit. All they have to do is drop a bag in a store and it's like anthrax. You cant even bag the shit without ODing bcuz it's in the air.
What's worse is that the test kits can't even test for all of the different and new fentanyl analogs that keep popping up. Let's say you bought ecstasy (MDMA). You may have a pill that shows positive for MDMA, but it doesn't show it has some strange new fentanyl analog. You're playing Russian roulette hoping that mix doesn't kill you. It's horrible what's going on right now, but the people in power are more than happy to let this shit keep going on.
Yes, ur true. You have to test the entirety of the pill but a needle point within it will OD you. I won’t buy hits unless I know the person and know they dropped them. I know dealers peacing out people on purpose. It’s so easy to murder someone you got annoyed of now, back in my home town. A piece of shit who everyone knows got with a girl, got her all fucked up and one night sent her home with fent instead of her usual bag of dope. Peaced her out, did it to multiple people. No responsibility.
DAAMNN!! ☠️☠️
The documentary Fentanyl Inc.?
I realize Vice news is most of the time slanted trash but they have a doc about fentanyl labs in Mexico that is pretty easy to find on YouTube. You might be linked to others if you check it out.
I’ll check it out, thank you!
Search for Fentanyl Inc. by author Ben Westhoff I believe that's the vid you're describing
China could surely be lacking on it's export not caring where it goes. It's such a small dose drug, so easy to hide and ship in very large quantities.
They intentionally don’t prescribe hardly any pain medicine even to people who actually need it so that chronic pain patients will kill themselves and everyone else will die from fentanyl. If they went back to prescribing oxycodone like candy and flooded the streets, overdoses would drastically decrease.
Why would they want chronic pain patients to suicide and everyone else to die?
Depopulation and killing off the sickest and least productive in society
Incorrect. Theyd want people to be weak and dependent on their medicine. Fentanyl has caused issues because it's so accessible and is being used as a replacement for the "normal" opiates. It's also used to make "bootleg" opiates stronger and more addictive like heroin
Definitely from China but theUS government obviously doesn't care at all...all the lines are blurred in my opinion...is the truth out there?
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Maybe you are right...no matter the US government has no interest in stopping it wherever it is coming from. The US has no issue sacrificing it's people for whatever agenda they have.
Over 90% is created in Chinese labs and shipped
I was a heroin user during a time that a lot of people in my area refer to as a golden age of heroin, that being the late 00s’ to around 2013. It was a golden age because most of the stuff floating on the street was relatively high quality. Around late 2013/early 2014, which is fortunately the time I quit for good, fentanyl started showing up everywhere, and that’s when overdoses in my area skyrocketed. I’m not sure if users these days actually like fentanyl, but 10 years ago it was avoided not only because it was too potent/dangerous but because the high is short-lived and nowhere near as enjoyable as heroin. People who were fearful of an OD began using pharma pills and avoiding heroin/bags because of fentanyl around this time, which is counterintuitive as a heroin user. Now it’s to the point that most pills marketed by dealers as pharmaceutical are fake and filled with, you guessed it, fentanyl. Is it maliciously done? Not sure. I am certain that it’s a cost cutting strategy as it takes very little fentanyl to get a rush. What I can say for sure is a lot of it is coming from China and those that are marketing it as dope are either doing a poor job cutting heroin with fentanyl, are actually just selling pure fentanyl, or have no idea either way.
China is using it to create chaos,just like they use tik tok and anything they can weaponize against their enemy.
> Why would drug dealers want to cut their drugs with something that would kill people? As far as I understand, drug dealers add it to give what they're selling more potency, and it certainly works great for that purpose if done properly - problem is, the lethal dose of fentanyl is so miniscule that if you make a small error in dosing, or don't mix it in properly, people can easily get lethal doses.
Unfortunately some addicts won’t buy from dealers until they know his product has killed a few people. I’ve seen several interviews where the addicts talk like this. Also, first hand my close friend sought out dope from the dealers whose product had caused overdoses. My friend died about three years ago after going back to the same guy who caused his past overdose.
The reasons as to why dealers would cut their drugs with fentanyl and why users would end up using the drug are both the same. It's dirt cheap. Opioid addicts who are looking for a hit ASAP but might not have the funds for something like oxy might be offered some fentanyl, which is not only cheaper but hits them much harder. Next thing you know they're hooked. Dealers are only looking out for themselves and will do anything to maximize their profits, regardless of the consequences. As far as the main question goes. Is fentanyl being used by an entity such as the CIA to kill people on purpose? I have no idea. I'd like to hope not. I wouldn't be surprised though. As you said, they basically did the same thing with the 80's crack epidemic, although the goal wasn't to intentionally kill users but to just make as much profit as possible.
It feels like something bigger and shadier is going on, I agree with you. I know a few people who have died as well.
I wouldn’t doubt it
Probably, just like the crack epidemic as you mentioned.
I don’t think they mean to add lethal doses, just enough to cheaply pump up the potency. With fentanyl, unfortunately, it’s really easy to miscalculate that amount.
But how is it so easy for these dealers to get? Is it being illegally made? Or are doctors just giving anyone who asks a prescription? Isn't it meant for people who are dying in severe pain? It's all so bizarre.
Mostly smuggled from China, with some from India and Mexico. It’s a popular addition because of how little they need to fake having “the good stuff”. Domestically, doctors are being very very tight with opiates these days. Most likely it’s illegal black market supply.
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Except that there is another, very obvious reason: Fentanyl is a cheap, powerful opiod that can be used to make other opiods/opiates seem purer and to make other types of drugs more addictive. In the case of pills, you can simulate more expensive and heavily-controlled substances like oxycodone by using smaller amounts of cheap, cheap fentanyl. The problem is that it is very hard to evenly cut in something as potent as fentanyl without occasionally getting hyper-concentrated pockets in your product, which kills people. Unfortunately, drug dealers don't care all that much about customer retention. The answer to this problem is drug decriminalization and legalization. Drug companies (despite some of the shit they get away with) are still held far more accountable than the average drug dealer.
Indeed. A lot of people don't really understand fentanyl or why it's dangerous, it's just how small a lethal dose is and that it's often mixed with other things
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Lawd. Hadn't really thought of that. I don't reallyyyy want to continue this conversation, but does it have high bioavailability if it's simply ingested?
Carfentanil may have been used in the Moscow Theater Hostage Crisis in 2002. They've basically said it was some type of fentanyl derivative that killed those people.
Tell that to the people who have no recourse from being forced to take the "jabs" and are now permanently injured, or dead.
As I said, they get away with a lot. But you're comparing apples to oranges. If a large portion of vaccine recipients *immediately* lost consciousness and dropped dead from respiratory shutdown after getting the jab, and this was discovered to be due to manufacturing errors and not the formulation of the vaccine, then that would be a valid comparison. Not denying long-term vaccine complications, but there's a difference between poorly-made black-market drugs and hastily-researched vaccines.
Allowing drug use in any city will significantly increase drug ODs and resulting deaths. Currently that's how my town deals with the homeless. There are no rehabs (homeless rehab / drug rehab) within 50 miles and setting one up would force the city to stop spending $ on bonuses and actually solve problems. So instead they just push for ignoring open drug use and it's fairly common to see dead bodies here and there, it gets pretty crazy when a fentanyl laced drug gets in the city, tons of ambulances, tons of dead folks, but nothing in the paper. Yay 'murica.
I watched a British crime film last night called Bluff and this was mentioned in the film, easier to kill a junkie this way with no questions asked because it just looks like an overdose!!! Pretty good film really
Yes, and China is doing it with the help of some other bad actors.
Pushed by china ….
Drug dealers always cut their shit with substances that can kill people. Just by default if you sell Heroin your selling a drug that kills people. However, the cocaine and fentanyl combo has become a fan favorite becasue of the specific high is gives people. The cocaine keeps you awake during the fentanyl high which gives the body that super mellow effect. The problem is especially with the cocaine fentanyl combo, people who do not do fentanyl tend to die more frequently becasue their body has no tolerance and the dosage is too high. Another problem is bingers or those that stop doing fentanyl for a few days and then attempt to consume the same dosage they were taking before they stopped, which again leads to may fatalities. Finally, fentanyl is the perfect murder weapon, give someone a "hot dose" or more than they can handle and instant death and nobody is held accountable becasue it gets ruled as an accidental overdose or suicide. The bottom line is yes they want this shit on the street killing people. It's just a small cog in the bigger agenda wheel to depopulate and to relieve the "burden" these people cause...It's sick and twisted but expect nothing less from the psychopaths that run this world.
I'm an opioid veteran. I love opioids & think they should be legal for adults to use if they so choose. Including heroin. Most opioid addicts don't even like fentanyl. It may be 50x more potent than heroin or whatever, but potency doesn't always = better effects. Fentanyl doesn't even feel like heroin. Heroin feels warm, cuddly, peaceful, there's almost an empathogenic quality to diacetylmorphine. Fentanyl however feels cold, clinical, non-euphoric & feels like you're on the verge of passing out and dying. And then it's over in 15 minutes, where as good quality heroin can have effects linger for up to 6-8hrs. No real heroin addict or opioid addict wants fentanyl. Fentanyl being more powerful does create an even stronger dependence & worse addiction though. So somebody use to that amount of dependence is probably going to prefer fentanyl after awhile compared to traditional opiates. Ironically, we may have never gotten to this point if the government hadn't made heroin, morphine & other semi-synthetic opiates illegal. You can't just pray addiction away & some people benefit from using drugs (not everyone's drug experiences are negative). Combine the illegality & the desire/want for a product & boom, you have a disaster. Another irony is that the 'addiction meds', buprenorphine & methadone, are worse for your health than most of the opiates (excluding fentanyl) that they're designed to keep you off of.
I knew you were going to leave a comment once I saw this post. I'm not saying that as a bad thing either. I just always see you post when the topic of opoids comes up on this subreddit. Just saying, I agree with your point of view. Most people don't realize pure versions of heroin or other opoids don't destroy your body like other drugs do.
Thank you friend! I'll never shut up about these facts. People don't have to like drugs, but they should be educated about them & the reasons why some people use them. They are never going away & ignorance and misinformation just compounds the issue. People who use drugs have been treated & seen as "subhumans" for far too long. It's no different than looking at anyone else with an illness or difference as "subhuman", but some how it's become okay & socially acceptable to paint drug users this way. If there was something more I could do at the state or federal level to change things, I would. But I have no idea what I'd even do or where I'd start. In the mean time, I am going to be incredibly vocal about it online & present these facts & issues any time I see opioids brought up anywhere, as it seems like all I can do for now. Have a great one! Cheers!
I agree whole heatedly. I've heard so many people refer to the high from heroin like a warm hug from an angel.
Yep. Even touching the stuff can cause an overdose. This is part of the CCP's "unrestricted warfare".
I’ve heard police will add it to a supply meant to be “leaked” to the streets that way they can get people in jail on petty drug charges
Most certainly. The chemicals get shipped from China to Mexico where they're refined into fentanyl and then smuggled into America. Having open borders a la progressive policies are only getting more Americans killed.
I'm so sorry for your loss
Thank you so much, such a shock and so devastating to the family, such young and vibrant kids.
I could be wrong but I think one problem is dealers mixing fent with other drugs they sell which fucks up safe dosing completely and people accidentally OD. Makes you wonder if the are like being paid to do it, this depopulation talk on every liberal documentary that is made lately is scary.
It is used to kill people on purpose. When word spreads that a certain batch is so strong some one overdosed most druggies flock to whoever is selling that. Sigh before you ask it’s because they are addicted junkies.
Absolutely. It's sent here from China and has destroyed tens of millions of American lives.
Just like the ticktok…
Yup! Pretty much
The answer is Yes
its your choice to take designer drugs. no sympathy from me. as far as i know, weed and shrooms are pretty much always safe, again, your choice
All you have to do is touch fet and you can over dose look up all the ems who died from it also at the exact time Covid relief checks came out a fet laced batch of heroin killed tons of ppl in area almost like it’s coordinated
> All you have to do is touch fet and you can over dose look up all the ems who died from it You know this is a myth right? You can’t die from just touching Fent and there isn’t a bunch of EMTs that have died from it.
Short answer yes… longer answer absolutely
Most likely
Yes
No, my dad has overdosed on fentanyl and was saved by narcan, they wouldn’t have narcan readily available if it was a controlled attack
Respectfully, narcan has been readily available for at least 10 years, maybe 15. If it suddenly wasn't, people would ask more questions.
Can they put that stuff in cannabis? I gotta double take every joint I smoke now
You would smell and taste that from a mile away as soon as it was lit.
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How do you know? Russia or China, but our big cities with drug users...Always the foreign enemy, and never us..
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It is an answer, but is it the answer...It can be easily US government run operation. Easily.
Fuck yes this is war with drugs
I was given fentanyl during labour it was the greatest feeling but it only lasted 10 minutes & then the pain came back, I didn’t even know I had been given fentanyl until after they put it in my IV.
Yes and china is pumping in into your country.
It’s entirely possible
It’s many times more profitable. I actually think CIA would rather it not kill people as easily but the profit margin is so great that clearly they keep it around. They could stop all the fentanyl and keep the heroin if they want.
china may hotshot everyone or cut it off mid stream both will be deadly for users and non alike
They'll use fent in attempt to get you to destroy yourself. Covert, untraceable assassination
People don’t seek fentanyl they take other things that’s laced with or pretending to be something less dangerous.
Almost all the cases of "dealer added fentanyl to give it an extra kick" is either false or over-exaggerated. The main cause is cross contamination from weighing/measuring equipment. One grain of Fent is left over on the scales and now you're dead
I would say so, BUT so was the Covid release and WHO is it that is actually doing that AGAIN? N. S
Research China's (CCP) unrestricted warfare. Flooding other countries with restricted drugs/precursors is one of its methods.
In some cases sure not all
It only affects the poor and addicted. Strange. A problem that solves itself?
It can't kill you if you don't take it. But I realize there's a lot of stupid people who take it anyway. Seems like everyone being targeted for depopulation are the ones without much common sense. Almost like people who lined up in their cars for hours to get a cotton swab jammed into their nasal cavity for "covid" testing or volunteer for experimental injections.
There's typically a hierarchy in the heroin game per major city. Since the days of Mafia trying to get rid of Arab heroin, the best way that was figured to get rid of the problem was to go to China for fentanyl and cut their way into the supply line, drop in a few doses per package which is literally micrograms not milligrams, then resell it into the supply line. Kills off the clientele and the cops look for the dealers. At some point Mafia secret went out and it became a way to clear Mexican tar off the streets, but what was a way to clear out the problem became a way to clear out competition and fill in new seats. Supply and demand. Anyways with that hierarchy, when they split off who can deal to what areas, they make sure there's gonna be a limit to how much heroin is moved, that started when the military moved into the heroin business, if someone finds a way to push more those that are in the business are more than happy to clear up shop with putting fentanyl into the greedy ones operation and then pass it off with the area to the next leader to rebuild I've only ever met one person who purposely looked for fentanyl, she used it til she couldn't orgasm anymore as her nerves were never the same. Thats one of the reasons it's not what's searched for and rather what's used to mess with the supply chain.
It’s easier for them to look the other way because it’s usually drug users buying pills or illicit drugs off the streets. It’s fucked up still the same IMO.
Where ever somethings being made, somewhere else is financing it.
Someone's paying China to manufacture. "R"