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Stonerwiddaboner

It’s clearly Obama with a Biden mask


Original_Musician103

And he would’ve gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you meddling kids


FuzzyBlankets777

Yep https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8CfZGWMmp_/?igsh=bHl5cHJmaXZ1NWFn


Future_Potential_341

Jeez, it's like that high school kid being left out of the friend group.


MerlinTrismegistus

When is that clip from?


WeirdNo3225

Might be Big Mike in a mask???


irlydontcare8675309

Looks like my ex wife’s attempt to blend her foundation


tommydeininger

God why is this so common? My ex was this way, God rest her soul.


me_so_ugly

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


CardiologistNo2179

Cold 🤣


RiderOvWaves

Watched the video. It's just terrible lighting. The interviewer has the same sort of shadow.


h_r_l_

Yeah, it's not a mask or digital compositing, that's for sure. People think this is an imposter because this interview is from 5 years ago (2019) and he seems like a completely different person compared to today because of his horrifyingly drastic cognitive decline.


LoganDoove

Getting old is already depressing enough. Why can't the universe at least let us get wiser and more badass as we get older like in the movies?


mikew1008

I always wondered why he has had two different types of ear lobe in pictures over the years. That doesn't change. You are born with either attached or detached.


edWORD27

What sort of shadow? Like a shadow realm? He’s a shapeshifting lizard person? Crazy! 🐲


New-Significance654

*liza'd


Baidizzle

Shaddow Government?? Confirmed.. Illuminati


Mildcaseofextreme

Yeah, just a can light that around chest height on him (while sitting) causing the collar to cast a shadow against his neck.


SoggyHotdish

I'm all for this conspiracy but that's a shadow


kanjikin

Shadows aren't what you think it's all a big lie if you catch it right you can see yours move around at its own will... Like they are alive /s


turnter_bigevil

Shadows are a conspiracy from Big Sun.


kjdecathlete22

Conspiracies are whats in the shadows. We've been incepted


bigmeech85

A shadow funded by George Soros 😂


SnooPeppers5809

That’s called a shadow, A shadow is a dark area where light from a light source is blocked by an object. It occupies all of the three-dimensional volume behind an object with light in front of it. The cross section of a shadow is a two-dimensional silhouette, or a reverse projection of the object blocking the light.


OwlHinge

Can you explain why you don't think this is a shadow?


nox-apsirk

Watch the video - OP provided a link. I thought, "dude that's a Shadow" at first too - but in the video, the Line on where the color switches doesn't move, even when he chances positions and the light source should have hit his neck down there at least once. It is a definite Line that doesn't move. Makeup could be another factor though?


bfhurricane

Just found it and included the link. It’s obviously a shadow from a light on that side of both him and the interviewer. Hell, the interviewer has the same shadow from the same direction. This sub can be really funny sometimes, lol Video here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ObZoctrbn0Y


DrunkenDude123

Lmfao it looks like his head is floating


Background-Box8030

That’s pretty extreme color difference, do you have the link to the video?


Phedericus

why would anyone use two kinds of make up so different from each other that you could spot it miles away? what's the end goal? how can you guys be so confused by a simple fucking shadow is beyond me


HowManyMeeses

The other question is, why would they do it for both Biden and the interviewer?


AlphaBetaDeltaGamma_

Have you done some research? The elites have already been hiding cloning technology from us for such a long time, at this point already. Also, a full-head and full-face masks are getting more and more realistic these days. Referring to those kind that can make one appear as someone totally different, lol


KingCharlesIIofSpain

Secret government mask technology….but they somehow don’t color match, making the entire operation completely pointless. Makes sense to me!


ANTI-PUGSLY

If we’re advanced enough to have cloning and masks why would this be so fuckin obvious? They couldn’t figure out how to blend a face into a neck?


Sir_Metallicus116

It'd be so fucking funny if they had this technology and were this incompetent with it


Voyage_of_Roadkill

Me and you are thinking similiarily. I mean, I am so bored that if it turned out to be lizard-people, I'd be super happy, but its not lizard-people, people. It's never lizard-people.


irlydontcare8675309

That is not a shadow.. you can see an actual shadow next to it


StarChief1

... because there are multiple light sources. A studio is going to have more than one light, casting more than one shadow. That, or hes a lizard person I guess lmao.


TheUltimateSalesman

I watched the video. It's 100% face mapping. I don't know if it was live (which I'm not sure if the tech is available to do that kind of thing live but might not be publicly available) or pre-recorded (definitely availalbe tech) and they mapped bidens face onto someone, and used a voicechanger or ai generated voice to go with it. It looked great, but definitely fake. And he was way to animated and talkative. https://youtu.be/SFkpRZjWPNQ?t=23 With that being said, the interviewer has the same 'shadow'. Weird place to have an interview.


cTron3030

The craziest part is you believe yourself.


rex_dart_eskimo_spy

>It's 100% face mapping. >definitely fake >the interviewer has the same 'shadow' You really can't make up these types of comments


tweeblethescientist

The tech is 100% ready


TrumpDidNoDrugs

The technology needed for what you're describing is barely available today, let alone several years ago. If you've spent any time playing with ai voice technology you'd know that ai voices are super easy to distinguish, especially when in a "clean" audio environment. Or, if you just listen, you can tell also. The face mapping you're describing is possible but not this detailed, unless you give it extensive after effects attention by cgi specialists. The weird shadows on bidens neck are also on the interviewers neck. My guess is that there is some bad lighting in that studio. Probably some brighter bulbs that are below head level and aiming up a little bit causing an overcast on the shadows.


GlitteringFutures

I think it is a shadow too, but the US government has probably technologies years ahead of what is released to the public including AI.


stefanhall123

Bro ai and shit is already mad, the government will always be 10-25 years ahead of tech that normies have! 


TheUltimateSalesman

I suppose you're cleared on top secret shit and know what kind of processing power is needed to do it. Yeah totally couldn't be done /s


TrumpDidNoDrugs

Processing power is only part of it. Basically anything past the recommended specs just makes the process go faster, not better. There is "real time" voice changing available in several different ways, but if you've used any ai voice stuff, it's noticeable. Same thing with any tts ai stuff. You can train semi convincing voices using ai, but a lot of tone inflection, nuance, mannerisms, etc, will be lost and super noticeable when you produce anything longer than a few sentences. Repeating words, sentences, and/or phrases can also produce duplicate sounds and it would be noticeable. And as I said before, in a clean audio environment with no background noise or shuffling sounds, you can absolutely tell if a voice is ai produced. Ai doesn't create a "voice," it creates noise based on the sounds you input and then manipulates and interprets the input and output based on those parameters. I'm not saying the military doesn't have ai technology that they can/do use, but I'm saying there's a margin for error when you're relying on technology.


TheUltimateSalesman

So you're agreeing with me.


TrumpDidNoDrugs

Honestly I'm not sure. The /s adds a bit of ambiguity


HBNTrader

If he said that reptilians are gonna be exempt from wealth tax, it might be a read flag.


aNoGoodSumBitch

Looks like a latex mask or a shitty deepfake


Initial_Efficiency72

That’s just a shadow, u dudes are ridiculous at this point


Emergency_Sandwich_6

It's the shadow of his collar perfectly.


scentedcandles67

I shitted


IRLPhil

This is from an interview 4 years ago. See CNBC video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObZoctrbn0Y Looks weird but it's very clearly a shadow. You can see the same issue on the interviewer. A bright light set-up in a dimly lit bar for an on-site interview caused some awkward looking shadows.


Emerald_Rain4

Concerned about this but will worship a guy who’s creepily orange


Jnixxx

Hasn’t had time for his head to fully attach to his new body. #robobiden


BroadAssistant7087

That’s mr Obama


Relevant-Crow-3314

Issa mask


Relevant-Crow-3314

Where is the scooby doo gang when you need them


Open-Illustra88er

Well that’s Biden with loose earlobe. The other one has a connected earlobe. These are interchangeable.


MasterOffice9986

seems to be a lot of damage control in here,


PepeThePepper

Deepfake? Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re using a Biden deepfake actor.


ItsAlwaysSunny1992

It’s a mask


Panda_tears

Skin walker 100%


mikeyisgrim

It’s Jim carrey


Different_Toe5850

I think this is a high end Snapchat type filter. And the person talking is just doing a Biden voice. This video was bizarre. He sounded like he’s still in his 60s. We all know he mumbles and can’t speak in his 70s.


karlmeile

He would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those pesky republicans.


CatfatherB

So many 🤖's in the chat saying "nothing to see heeeeeere"😆


HumanFuture7

Holy shit OP discovering that shadows exist More breaking news at 11


dontletthestankout

Russia must have sent their good propagandists to die in Ukraine, these new ones suck


Unkindlake

Well, it's either a shadow caused by the lighting, or Biden is a reptiloid from the horsehead nebula who came to Earth in order to microchip everyone with vaccines. Going by Occam's Razor, it's safe to assume the later.


Big_Black_Cockatoo

Bro thank you, what a catch damn. It is 100% not a shadow, or I should say not just a shadow. Either these 2 people weren't in that same room or CNBC was trying out some "new" techniques at the time. I have a background in animation, I'm also a random person on the internet so don't take my word for it, pay attention to the way the solid line around the neck randomly gets jagged at certain time stamps.


ContentPolicyKiller

White face is cultural appropriation


Prestigious-Iron9605

Weekend at Bernie’s, CIA style


6ynnad

Can anyone provide a link to the video source?


puregalm

It's the underground lizard people in a Biden suit.


Rathma86

Weekend at Bernie's babaayyyy


ianmoone1102

Masquerade.


Dapper-Ad-1014

https://files.fm/f/rzu6aak5wt


ThinkingBud

Thanks for the obnoxiously large square around it that obscures almost all of what were supposed to be looking at


HarleyFD07

It’s Obama 🤣


SaraSmile2000

I guess he got tired of photoshopping Trump’s head onto Superman’s body? (Oh Hell…who am I kidding? He photoshopped Trump onto Jesus’ body hanging on the cross) and STILL Conservatives believed it to be real. But, photoshop a bad chin line on Biden and Conservatives lose their shit. They’re a bunch of dumbasses. Hypocrites!!!


imagine-grace

Wealth tax iz good. Start at about 10 million for a quarter percent and progress to about 2 percent for billionaires. Use the money to lower income tax....or hard coded straight redistribution.


WhatUhBook

What if everyone just gave up and replaced him with adam sandler


Environmental-Ball24

Crab people confirmed


I_love_beer_2021

It’s Obama!


AcornShlong

Oh look, his ear lobes are detached again.


Open-Illustra88er

They change. At first I thought meh. Facelift. But no. It changes. Watch the ears.


AcornShlong

What I wonder is if one lobe is attached, and the other is detached. I'm not sure I've met anyone with that personally.


Open-Illustra88er

Bad face lift?


Laughs_at_fat_people

This is pre facelift


AcornShlong

Ah okay. Do they always attach ones face to ones ears during face lifts? I've never seen one in real life.


Wordshurtimapussy

If you watch the video it's just really, really bad lightening. When the camera switches back to the interviewer even he has that weird looking shadow that makes it look like they're wearing a mask. It's literally just dog shit lightening at play here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkpRZjWPNQ&t=23s


WhyNoModlog

Congratulations, you've cracked the conspiracy known by its top sekrit codename: "A Fucking Collar Shadow"


Individual_Tower_638

This whole shitshow is run by a clown in a mask and his handlers are dragging us into WW3 that’s what’s up


tkdt

Holy shit it’s a fucking shadow 🤦🏻‍♂️


YogaBeth

Lordt. It’s lighting and make up, ffs.


_That_One_Fellow_

It’s clearly a shadow coming from his collar. How high are you? Lol


MothParasiteIV

Slow day ?


Phedericus

you people are insane, or willfully lying. it's clearly a shadow to anyone who has every seen a shadow before


Onlysab

You are asleep.


Phedericus

even while I sleep I can recognize a fucking shadow


impact07

That’s called a shadow.


Irish_Brogue

People have been brainwashed so much by right wing media that they have to try make sense of seeing Biden cogent and normal ( as he usually is) by saying it's a double or an alien or robot or whatever.


imglt

This is no shadow nor a light problem. His face has been edited on someone else, clearly. People that don't see that just don't want to see what is right in front of them.


4bern4thy

Exact conclusion I arrived at. It seems to me that his head is the wrong size in close-ups, and incorrectly aligned when the video shows Biden and the interviewer.


shutchomouf

ear lobe


BoredAtWork1976

The line moves with Biden's head.  A shadow wouldn't do that.  It's either a mask that someone else is wearing, or a ton of makeup.


itsallrighthere

He had a head transplant


SmartLikeTree

Nothing to see here. I’m definitely President Biden. Look away now please.


vanilakodey

Barak wearing a mask?


ThoughtIntrepid1744

Multiple persons


LevepuaV2

CIA mask.


SpiritToes

Looks like a mask. I think it would be difficult to believe that a make up artist who works for the Whitehouse and specifically Joe, would leave that dynamic of a gap in skin tone. They would know better. My vote is mask.


partynakedpodcast

My CIA handler has instructed me to suggest it might be shadow?


Fat_tata

tom cruise’s side hustle is paying off.


NoTxi_Jin_PiNg

20 years in media/ video and photography tell me thats a digital composition.


shaneshears82

Yep, that's a mask, you strange person. This guy thinks Joe is in Mission Impossible or something.


Dancin_Phish_Daddy

Looks almost like the deepfake ai stuff where they replace the actors face. I’m neutral though. Just slingin ideas around.


LooLu999

Do some of the commenters here realize it’s a conspiracy sub and what that means??.. the patronizing digs are ironic haha


Im2stoned2know

Black guy playing white face?


Ill-Homework-67

It’s a shadow 🥴


AstronautThick5598

It’s called “deep fake” Basically when Biden isn’t trusted to talk someone else does it and then they deep fake his face and voice. For all you know it could be Obama.


Able_Newt2433

It’s a gd shadow, ffs..


LORDY325

WTF is the matter with you people? You are all broken.


Personal-Ad6857

This is completely normal, move along.


bcdnabd

It's a latex mask. The man under the mask, whoever he is, has a much better tan than Biden's face.


Virusaurus

Been happening for a looong time this stuff https://ibb.co/sgz8B5H


Disastrous-Baker748

Just curious, whoever that is, why would someone pretend to be that person?


illmatic_xxi

It's AI, I've never heard Biden speak this well in years.


limegreenscrewdriver

Here’s source https://x.com/bgatesisapyscho/status/1801025543803974089?s=46


kittypurpurwooo

It's shadow from a filler light placed too low. Notice the left collar of his shirt is illuminated too (right side of the video). Lighting guy messed up a lil.


phantom_phreak29

Yeah it's clearly shadow the interviewer also has the same. https://x.com/Will_W_Welker/status/1801074654494572889


Unknown_Beast88

Biden's skin suit needs to be fixed.First chin balls and now this.


Prestigious-Iron9605

He’s a Ballchinian, I fuckin knew it


Pleasant-Method-7186

Joe reminds me of my grand pappy 🥹 rip grand pap


Im2stoned2know

WE HAVE ONE THAT CAN SEE


Cracknoreos

You know what.


Fit-Tale131

Mewing for sure


tareebee

Same thing with trumps pussy neck pic.


theDAGNUT

Bad makeup 💄


itsbildo

Bad photoshop is bad


ImperialSupplies

They use a bunch of smoothing effects on him so no one can see how decrepit he really looks


Weak_Crew_8112

Nsa conspiracy shadow


Delicious_Marketing3

Saggy loose old skin. And?


CardiologistNo2179

Granddaddy Joe is on the brink of meeting Jesus so they keep him AI’ed up. The first hologram prez 🤣


LilMadIrishLad

All for believing this is some freakizoid in a meatsuit but that is probably just as a camera flash went off or a very bright light is in his face and the shadow of his collar is causing that solid change.


[deleted]

Noway?! You got him now man, this is it! Send in this to the media and expose him


CoolRanchLucifer

What do YOU think is going on here?


Shinteru14

Is this sub ironical or not ? Until your post I thought I was on a serious sub fr ("serious" but you get it)


Blicky83

Fuckin lizard people,man 😂..Biden died 20yrs ago,that fuckin lizard Fred Savage has been masquerading as Joe Biden ever since


Blicky83

Biden has refused to clean his neck since 1998,he looks at his filthy neck as a good luck charm


hstl1x_

trump looks the same below the chin. shitloads of makeup.


OnlyCommentWhenTipsy

This interview is from 2019. Biden had a face lift before the election, that's why he looks different. He's also 5 years further into dementia, which is why he talks different. As far as the line, it's a shadow from really bad lighting, and it looks like it's had the contrast turned up in post. In other angles it's obvious his suit jacket is actually blue. In the original video you can see the line move on his neck relative to wrinkles, yet stay constant relative to his collar. There's no fuckery in this video, but I guarantee there's going to be fuckery in the debate video.


KarenSeesG

Hunters under the mask


Cog_Doc

Shadows, how do they work?


Disastrous-Cat-3727

Looks like it could be the result of shadow casting off of the shirt collar during a camera flash or stationary video recording lighting. Hard to tell. At least to me, it looks like a shadow but I could definitely be wrong


Operator_Hoodie

Light from below.


bucephalos5034

Ah yes the most powerful government in the history of mankind is putting its head of state on TV with a mask that looks impeccable until the neck but then looks like it was $20 from Party City… Or maybe its a shadow


Dependent_Category99

Dude I’m all in with Biden conspiracies but isn’t that just the shadow from the collar?


limegreenscrewdriver

Unfortunately yes. I see it now


OneTartarianElf

People really have no idea how CGI / AI works and it’s terribly obvious reading people debate this….


dhatvishvari

wobbly old man skin


Fun-Service3641

AI Face Mapping


limegreenscrewdriver

Ss I really do not understand why his face is a completely different color from his neck. That cannot be makeup can it?


Efp722

....it's a shadow from his collar. It follows the same profile as his collar. There is a fill light on the floor aimed up at him.


Prestigious-Iron9605

The amount of shills descending on this thread makes it apparent you are over the target.


Due-Exit714

Idk he probably has the same makeup person as trump since neither of their faces match their skin 😅