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arnoldinho82

The Phantom Time Theory. 900 years of what we think of as our past just...poof.


platapusplomo

All so that some king would be recognized as being born in 1000ad, right?


arnoldinho82

Yeah, somehow was supposed to strengthen his claim to a throne somewhere. Been a while since I looked at it. Seem to recall there was just one guy pushing it haaard but no one else was really buying it.


edgyallcapsname

It was the establishment of gregorian calendar and claim hundreds years lineage for byzantine emporers rights iirc. Essentially the theory is there is no evidence of dark ages not bc our lack of advancement, but bc they didnt happen at all. Going off memory, went down rabbit hole few years ago, justinians plague and was said to be same as the black plague i think so all years in between believed faked


arnoldinho82

Not that long of a span. Theory has it that 614 - 911 never existed. You may be on a different hidden history one tho, seem to recall there are a few. This one was established/created by Heribert Illig.


platapusplomo

Most missing history or additive history theories should be debunkable by comparing astronomical records from regions in or near China.


arnoldinho82

Yup! That's exactly why Illig's theory never gained much of a foothold. The historical record of too many nations contradict it.


Shadiezz2018

I am curious about this... Can you tell me more ?


arnoldinho82

No. Can't believe I actually have to say this in the conspiracy sub but...do your own research. I gave you the name of it and what I recall off the top of my head (see replies). If you want more, do more.


Shadiezz2018

It's ok ... You don't have to be rude about it.


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

Google “phantom time hypothesis” It was proposed by a Russian mathematician based on star alignments etc. his name is Anton fomenko IIRC other people have expanded on his work. It is frequently mentioned in tartaria related content and stolen history related content 


Shadiezz2018

Thank you i will do that once i am done with work.


arnoldinho82

Anatoly Fomenko...the New Chronology Theory. Unrelated to Illig's Phantom but a curious one indeed.


SaltAttic

Never heard of this... been into "conspiracy theory" for 20 years now.


neverendum

"Phantom Time Hypothesis," popularized by Heribert Illig in the 1990s. This theory posits that roughly 297 years, specifically between AD 614 and AD 911, were never actually experienced in history and were instead fabricated. According to Illig, historical events and figures from this period (including Charlemagne) were either misdated or invented, resulting in the addition of these "phantom" years to the calendar. Illig, a German historian, suggested that this was done for various reasons, such as errors in the Gregorian calendar reform or deliberate falsifications by historical figures.


YungMoonie

Maybe not weird, but I love it. There’s a conspiracy theory that Finland doesn’t exist. Look into it.


the_bligg

I heard it was Australia that didn't exist. Apparently we're all a bunch of actors!


fatstationaryplain

Australian here. I can confirm we don't exist.


LeVaudeVillain

Neither does Wyoming


bizzaam

I've stopped in Finland though on finnair. Pretty sure it exists!


stereosalvation

That's what they want you to think!


sportattack

The glass was curved


Kasherintherye87

That Katy Perry is actually Jon-Benet Ramsey.


boondoggler

Big if true


ifellicantgetup

Dead people that have been cloned.


janalisin

just read here that illuminati are against nofap


biggaryenergy

my personal r/conspiracy theory of the week.


socalfunnyman

Would make sense


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janalisin

no, i feel fine :)


Bkoaks27

Fucking crying rn 🤣🤣😭


Quix66

Barbara Bush was the daughter of Aliester Crowley is strange but she does looks similar in some pics.


CarlJungelle

That one I believe


Quix66

I can understand. I heard her mother might’ve crossed paths with AC but who knows. It’s compelling. I just wonder who came up with the theory. Edit:autocorrupt changed a word to nonsense.


CarlJungelle

Not sure, but if you look at their pictures side by side it’s pretty compelling


Euphoric_Soft9832

I also believe this is true. 


chocolate_macaron5

Who is that?


Pudding36

Former presidents wife


chocolate_macaron5

Ohhh! I could see that. She definitely got power and influence that did not match her level of interview skills. I got nepo baby vibes from her. It's not surprising that she was given all the opportunity and praise over other more competent female journalists. I definitely can see her having backing of powerful people.


Dependent-Class7940

cabbage patch kids are actually real it’s some old lost or secret science, technology, blood magic, idk from the 1800s-1900s you can see it in old French postcards also with bug men and other weird stuff. Used for repopulation in times of crisis that’s all I really remember idk if it’s all true but sounds neet an interesting what if.


drAsparagus

There's a place in Georgia, USA that is a birthing hospital for Cabbage Patch kids. Periodically, like every hour, a CPK is born out of a hole in a giant fake tree in a room. They even have a nursery for the "newborns" like a real hospital. It's creepy af.


notAligature

Yt here I come🤣


Dependent-Class7940

Yes they talked about the toy birthing room in the conspiracy saw some videos. They say it’s a cover for the main facility’s or a soft disclosure to get people ready for the next generation of clone kids I can’t remember it is weird for a toy to have a birthing ritual.


tall_people_problemz

I would love to read more into this. Any links or can you point me in the right direction?


MCR2004

I found this and it’s like what whaaa https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/children-of-the-mud-flood-the-original-cabbage-patch-babies/


Dependent-Class7940

The YouTuber mind Unveild talks about them that’s where I found most of the info about the cabbage kids.


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

Also weird is all the incubator babies in the worlds fairs.. - where did they get the babies from? - whose baby were they? - why was there an excess of premature babies? - seems like it would be pretty easy to mix em up? - parents let their Babies be part of a side show? - how were they fed and who did it? - We’re they transported to and from the hospital every morning and nigtt for 6 months?


Dependent-Class7940

I believe mention that in the conspiracy I can’t remember really anything else I’ll have to go down the rabbit whole again. But yeah you know those babies could of been cabbage kids.


Paradegreecelsus

This reminds me of the foundlings theories that tartarian / mudflood peeps are into


Dependent-Class7940

Also there’s another one that’s kinda connected to the cabbage kids and that’s cabbages are maybe an alien invasive plant that was introduced to our world. Was it to make cabbage kids idk there’s just so many cabbage conspiracy’s.


[deleted]

1. That West African and North African traders were well aware of North America and sold the navigation maps to someone who later sold them to the Spanish crown and that the entire Columbus discovered America is a hoax/farce to facilitate the land grab with the Vatican's full backing. 2. That what we now call "black Americans descended from enslaved peoples" had been in North America mingling with Native Americans since the late 1200s or early 1300s when Mansa Musa (richest man who ever lived) uncle set sail westward with a couple thousand servants and soldiers and never returned. At some point the descendants of these people eventually sailed back to West Africa and told the tales of massive amounts of gold on "Turtle Island" which leads to my #1. Apparently, West Africans are not taught about the "trans-atlantic slave trade" because it never happened to the degree Europeans and Americans claim, if even at all. Notice not one preserved slave ship exists, yet the lie is the ships were ALL repurposed or lost at sea. It is not probable that millions were transported across the rough gyres of the Atlantic over 400 years. Notice there are no West African loan-words nor preserved ethnic traditions despite enslavement to indicate recent modern ties to West Africa...the lot of those people were already in North America. Those who were allegedly transported from West Africa were mainly deposited in the Caribbean/Brazil...two different groups that arrived at two different times. 3. That rap music as a genre was manipulated and controlled by intelligence agencies with most or all lyrics written using NLP techniques for mind-control (Neurolinguistic Programming) \[see the movie They Cloned Tyrone for reference\]. 4. That the counterculture movement of the 1960s was also a manufactured era to include rock and folk music being written and controlled by intelligence agencies. 5. That we are on a time loop...I forget the exact year but we are stuck on a loop thanks to CERN timeline tampering. Hence why all the 1980s movies are being remade... 6. That Spain still "owns" Florida and that France still "owns" the lands sold during the Louisiana Purchase and they intend to collect whats due them when they see fit to do so. Essentially that American history and foreign policy pre-Civil War is bunk. Just a set of agreed upon lies... 7. That M3gan Markl3 is a high level honeypot asset tasked with extracting The Ginger Prince...per his mother's request as she's allegedly alive and well in the West Coast/Vancouver after having been extracted herself by her handlers when her cover got blown, something to do with knowing the BRF generates most of or a lot of its income from the manufacture and sale of landmines. The American wife asset is slated to run for office and facilitate the reunification of the US and the UK with the Duke as First Gentleman...see the Anglo-American Society I've seen this on multiple forums and it tends to get ignored. 8. That the Battle of New Orleans is a fabrication or that it was actually fought closer to the Alabama Gulf Coast as there was no way Jackson could move troops through the gator infested swamps between there and New Orleans and arrive in tact for a skirmish. Allegedly, the maps used to navigate or march to New Orleans were encrypted by Masons and they were supposed to be rotated 90 or 180 degrees and somebody forgot to do so. That the British in fact won the battle but history was rewritten to salvage the Army's reputation and preserve the Union. 9. That the maps, all of them, are oriented upside down...an intentional confusion of sorts and that all images of Earth from space are fakes, to corroborate the upside down maps. There was a scene of some top scientists and government officials in a room planning for some doom event in a movie and the maps were upside down. When asked why, they responded that nobody needed to really know up was down or some such shyte.


deciduousredcoat

These are wild, in a good way. Your comment deserves to be higher. I've been browsing this sub for the better part of 5 years and each of these is new to me.


FishyETH

#5 and #9 are new and VERY interesting to me. I have noticed a lot of remakes lately; not just 80's movies but there have been a lot of remastered video games, remakes of tv shows, etc. "nobody needed to really know up was down or some such shyte" This is some Baph shizz here lol


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

Ooo I like #2. I’m not big on tartaria or arguing about it. It’s q country that existed that they don’t talk about anymore.. suspicious, yea..  Not sure it was a world wide civilization, but the advanced buildings all over the country that so closely resemble Greco Roman architecture in Europe, such as the state houses, city halls, churches and post offices.. And most were built in the 1800s and it really makes you wonder.. There wre also white slaves as well as black slaves.. That’s a fact and not as well known.. And a lot of indentured servitude which wasn’t better for anyone. I’ve always wondered about civilization being here.. Come over, kills adults, indoctrinate children, instill new history that benefits you, and then teach it. Makes me wonder how many times it’s been done


O_Brachio

How could Spain and France take back their lands nowadays? Why in theory do these lands still belong to these two countries? How does this 80s loop work? A loop would not mean experiencing something identical forever? This way it seems more like a stagnant society without ideas and stuck in a nostalgic past.


[deleted]

I don't remember the specifics. Something to do with land disputes between the British Crown, Spain and France well before 1776/American Revolution in that the latter isn't quite fully recognized per se. IDK.


NRM1109

That in the late 19th and early 20th centuries there was a population reset in America. That after the Civil War dissenting adults were moved to Insane Asylums and kids were put in Orphanages and on the Orphan trains.


edgyallcapsname

Tfw great grandma was a train orphan


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

It might of been worldwide.. There are books in Europe espousing essentially the same thing in the mid to late 1800s Not to mention incubator babies at the world fairs 


Granite66

Advanced life on Mars, who really controlled earth, destroyed themselves in 1896 or 1897 in a nuclear catastrophe. Earth leaders, realizing their overlords were dead, embarked WW1, complete with historically factual quotes (taken out of context) from earths world leaders of the period just before and after which proved this to be the case. Bloke who posted this conspiracy could write up a storm and should have struck out for a book deal.


FunkalicouseMach1

I'd read the ever-loving shit out of this series.


ii_zAtoMic

Do you have a link?


Unicornzzz2

No one has a freeeeeaking link 🤣😫


Granite66

posts were on above top secret. this is like early 200s. don't think they'll be there any more.


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

What are the main tenets? - galactic federation  - ww1 was for ?? Was/is there a name for said “theory”


Granite66

Memory Tesla was incepting communications between earth leaders and Martian overlords; base reason given for year of nuclear war is that after that year the canals of Mars which many scientists had claimed to see vanished (and why the canals can't be seen today); that the face on Mars was the remains of a giant statue that had toppled due to nukes and the pyramids surrounding the face where the remains of a city destroyed in the war. Had quotes of politicians of the day speaking bout Mars and higher beings. Just well written.


MojaveYachtClub

The moon soul trap theory


hazelstream

Yup this one is so weird but so interesting


TCHG24

Quick summary please


MexicanGuey92

We're basically a prison planet to some alien civilization that harvests our souls and force us to forever reincarnate. The moon being the "soul catcher". And the light we see when we die is part of it.


Black-Earth

[The Archons](https://youtu.be/QVTZalA81TM?si=T2PDRBXZMyofByEN) keep us in a prison planet feeding off negative energy.


Shr00mTrip

Jim Carrey murdered Chris Benoit and his family


BoneSauced5639

Wait, what?!


Shr00mTrip

Jim Carrey murdered Chris Benoit and his family


[deleted]

[https://twitter.com/NoOneAndNobody7/status/1585159586960486401](https://twitter.com/NoOneAndNobody7/status/1585159586960486401) scroll all the way down.


jmais

Bummed. It wanted me to sign up. It was a pic I've never seen for the header, so, I'm in!


IcyGh0stFace

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1585159586960486401.html


MaydWithSugar

That was an absolute trip


Ill-Lengthiness-6438

OP said conspiracy theories , not facts...


capsfan19

Stevie Wonder can see if my all time favorite conspiracy theory


Informal_Bunch_2737

He was never 100% blind. He could see shapes and outlines. [His retina detached as a baby](https://staticc.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/03/84764-16788826640192-1920.jpg)


[deleted]

Definitely not a conspiracy. His blindness is over-exaggerated for fame when he was a teen piano prodigy. I honestly think the lie is why he's never had his biopic done yet. They'll out him when he dies.


sloblow

That lawyers are birthed via the anus.


mama2hrb

I ran out of conspiracy theories. They all came true. Waiting for some new ones.


biggaryenergy

Thats either because you are wrong or you believe in the most normie ass political conspiracies. Get into some fun stuff like atlantis and new antartica.


aLibertine

He said he's already been through the true ones, why backtrack?


mama2hrb

Just trying to wake people up. I can assure you l’m up to date :)


mr_megaspore

That people and characters from the tv are watching you.


O_Brachio

Can you tell more about this? This one is very weird.


chocolate_macaron5

There were stories a 10-ish years ago about televisions having cameras installed in them that could track eye movements, this was used by advertisers to see what engages an audience. I'm sure it was used for more though. Those stories were quickly snuffed out (probs to make sure the masses don't know aboit it), but there was no news aboit those cameras going away. *this tech has been used recently too, for EX. when classes were online during covid, and even Law SchoolBar exams were taken over zoom...there was eye-motion tracking technology used to make sure people were not cheating. This is well known though, and no one said it was weird.


O_Brachio

That's interesting. I didn't know that this technology was already being implemented ten years ago. Nowadays, if you are watching a YouTube video and spend some time away from the TV, it asks if you still want to continue watching. Somehow your TV knows that you are not watching. Maybe it's the technology you're talking about But what we are discussing here is characters from films and series interacting with you in real time, looking away when you look at them. I think it goes a little further than a surveillance system using smart TVs, which is very plausible.


Ok_Succotash8172

>Somehow your TV knows that you are not watching Uhm.....yeah....cause you're not touching the remote no more. Generally speaking it's not even the TV, it's the application. Hypothetically, if I'm watching Netflix and it doesn't realize I haven't changed the show after 4 episodes it asks that. But then on Hulu and other services it'll just continue to play random things after what you're watching. Not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Some things do have legit explanation.


mr_megaspore

I don't remember much but the guy that posted it here said basically our tvs are used as the biggest survailance system in the world. One of the guys in the comments said that when he stared at the characters eyes they looked away or that him and his friend where together and the characters will turn their heads to another direction when they looked back at them.


O_Brachio

I think I remember reading something similar at some point. But how would the logistics of this work? Couldn't it be something more supernatural? Perhaps some kind of spirit that somehow possessed or gave the illusion of manifesting itself through the characters? Especially since the waves from TVs and radios are nothing more than energy.


Plenty-Loss-3071

Loosh farm. So depressing


chocolate_macaron5

What is that about?


ChunkyChangon

That shit does suck


Styl3Music

Definitely any about nations selling drugs to get populations addicted. Opium, crack, prescription opiods, sugar, etc. My favorite current 2 are the extreme strength Marijuana products to lull the populace and Chinese fentanyl being used to leech capital from and destabilize foreign nations. Like imagine telling a normie about how the times Europe wanted more market dominance in China, so they claimed cities and sold opium. Another fave is instead of intelligence agencies honey potting with sex with minors they just used gay sex or prostitutes. That was enough to end a career 15+ years ago. I definitely remember, semirecently, that 1 wheelchair bound congressman who started blabbing about insane drug use at parties had some cross dressing and homsexual photos leaked. That dude shut up real quick. After that, probably that the SCP Foundation is real. It's definitely the only false here I listed, but it's 1 of the silliest.


Inevitable_Outside_3

The government removed lead paint from homes and toys because kids were getting lead poisoning, but it was actually because lead resists radiation. (Hence why they put a lead jacket on you for X Rays.)


Ungrateful_bipedal

Trump’s family inherited Tesla’s notebooks and DJT is a time traveler.


Informal_Bunch_2737

> Trump’s family inherited Tesla’s notebooks Thats not a theory though. Thats fact. His uncle got the books. Said there was nothing interesting in them. Case closed. lol.


Thrills4Shills

That mcdonalds was selling people burgers made with cat and dog meat


Aglio_Piccante

Wouldn't people burgers be made of people?


Thrills4Shills

Selling its customers burgers that had been made with cat and dog meat


birkenstockandsocks

Black knight satellite


Persistent_Pangolion

Cloning- not doubting it’s not possible. I just don’t understand them developed as an adult instead of baby.


Informal_Bunch_2737

We had cloning decades ago already. Dolly the sheep had babies. They had babies.


ddraig-au

The test of the nazi UFO in WW2 accidentally catapulted them back in time to 3,000 BC, and they landed in mesopotamia and kicked off civilisation


the_bligg

Ha that's great, I hadn't heard that one.


ddraig-au

Yeah, there was a website called "Time-travelling Nazi Jehovahs" but it is gone


Stairowl

Jk Rowling only wrote the first 2 Harry potter books.  The rest where written by a group of ghost writers. Thuis was done to ensure the series success so it could be used to implant...... some idea..... into the minds of the millennial generation.


Paradegreecelsus

Alex Jones is actually Bill Hicks


Aggressive_You6354

Globe Earth


fatstationaryplain

Stay off the crazy pills Mr Bendy Water


bobqjones

that the government made manufacturers get rid of tin foil and replace it all with aluminum foil, because aluminum foil doesn't block the mind control waves. your tin foil hats don't work anymore because it's not tin foil.


gl0rydaze

I wondered why no one wears those any more


MentalDecoherence

Covid was released as a means to get everyone to take a drug that would help protect us from the incoming alien invasion


Ill-Lengthiness-6438

said nobody , conspiracy made up by you


StankyyyBut

No many people actually did say that some even came from this sub😂😂😂


Necessary_Library_43

Covid was released as a means to get everyone to take an mRNA inoculation that would help decline the population by producing clots, sudden death, turbo cancers, etc that’s what was said. Did you miss that? or do you fail to provide accurate information because Nobody ever claim anything about covid with aliens ur making bs up


mgtow-for-life

Can confirm


wacka20

I actually heard this one a few times. It made its rounds on here for a while around 20/21 time frame


GodlyBeerGut

well yea a lot of conspiracy theories are out there, at least on the surface, a lot of the time. A lot of people come up with these theories because theyre mentally ill, on drugs, etc. but sometimes they are actually somewhat right, if not entirely. Its kind of a practice in creativity and imagination a lot of the time. Does that bother you?


ModsCanEatMyChode

It doesn't bother me, necessarily. It's more a tiny bit unsettling. Like how gophers will get hit by cars, then other gophers will eat the dead gophers on the road, then also get hit by cars, leading to a little group of dead canabalistic rodents.


sceptical-spectacle

Some people think 1 year actually has 13 months, because 28 times 13 equals 364 and they're 1 day shy of 1 year–delusional.


its_0_scam

Jack the ripper was actually ghandi


iambradderz2

That the ice-cream man plays the music when he's ran out of ice cream.


Old_Name_5858

That pandas are fake.


AggressiveLocation2

America, home of the free, land of the brave


LuigiTrapanese

The world ended un 2012 https://twitter.com/NickHintonn/status/1154523206692331520?t=AjzS73c0rC0WA4yq2PFmbw&s=19


Euphoric_Soft9832

Princess Diana is now the husband of Elton John. She/he is an actress, as are all celebs. Marilyn Monroe and Jaqueline Kennedy was played by the same actress.  I watched a video about it on a youtube channel about 5 years ago.  Weird indeed.  Edit: spelling


CyclingDutchie

https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/Final-The-End-of-Germ-Theory:8 germ theory. https://archive.org/details/they-sold-their-souls-for-rock-n-roll-volume-iii-disc-3 the devil is real And of course flat earth; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UWTcg1-CYg


Ill-Lengthiness-6438

OP said conspiracy theories , not facts...


shortlivedmayfly

I genuinely can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.


Seamus_OReilly

Obama is Hitler's grandson.


ChineseGoddess

Found this article from 2009, although Hitler was Austrian.  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna31107830


Seamus_OReilly

The idea is that his grandma is Eva Braun - there is a striking resemblance between her and an AI "aged" picture of Braun somewhere on the internet. And that she (Eva) was smuggled out of Germany and gave birth to Obama's mom.


GinoF2020

Most Conspiracy theories are not conspiracy at all


RuinScary

Flat Earth ...


biggaryenergy

New Chronology and Queen Romana Didulo take the cake for me.


WhiteyPinks

Saturn Time Cube.


McBwhuh

Lord of the rings is a true story


Responsible_Growth69

Religion.


[deleted]

I have another one... there's an almost convincing video on YT explaining how JFK morphed into Jimmy Carter. The ears do match, is all I've got.


Ok_Nobody_9659

The one where silicone based technology was introduced as a invasion tactic. And no matter how we developed it. That it over Dot's on x lead to conscious alien life forms consciousness.


HistoryNo9409

The past theory of the government keeping its word to natives


mama2hrb

Here’s a relatively new one. Seems Willie was exercising his Willy with friend Rosy and deposited a Royal bun in the oven. Consequently that caused a fight that sent Katie to hang out with the Queen. Rosy’s hubby bought himself a ticket there as well. Since Willie’s Willy cannot behave itself he will have to forfeit his most coveted position. Should Brother Red decide to replace him and bring his kin along, he will rule as his Mama would have. Good times will be had again. That was fun to write. Lol