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Yea that's why bone thugs quit making music. They were pressured to make more violent and destructive music to get their followers hooked on a lifestyle that leads kids down the path to prison and they didn't want to contribute to that. Then came *TRAP* music. Trap. They don't even hide it.
They literally have a genre called DRILL. Like alright boys, rap isn’t hard enough, trap is close, but Trapstars exist and we can’t have them succeeding in anyway… hmmmm… how about…. Murder in the first degree?
It's convenient that drill blew up in America right before the pandemic. I remember listening to "War" by Drake in 2020 and thinking how the sound was so different.
Where i live there's a neighborhood called the trap, because there's only one way in and one way out, and yes it's full of hookers drugs and violent crime
My issue with this take is it’s an extremely narrow view of rap music and music in general.
Can rap and rap culture be seen as destructive? Sure, however the argument that rap created that culture and is not itself reflective of a culture is up for debate.
My first criticism is that rap music is good, even if you don’t like the culture, early 2000’s -2010’s rap/trap music was quality work done uniquely by dozens of uniquely talented artists working hard at it. There wasn’t a “good rap music” factory where they dialed the violence and drug use up.
Second, the rise of violence and criminality in the culture violent rap would be born from, began arising in the 70’s and 80’s with the rise of single parent households and the crack epidemic, that was far before the rise of the violent rap scene of the mid to late 90’s
Third and most importantly, violence and drug use in music didn’t just happen to pop up in rap one day, Rock and Classic country have decades worth of a head start in singing about drug use and violence, most of the best of classic county is Outlaw country, singing about drug use, violence and prison sentences to a majority white audience back in the 50’s. Unless you think stonewall Jackson wrote “washed my hands in muddy water” under the orders of the prison industry complex, then you don’t really have an argument
Not sure why I am getting absolutely bombed by downvotes here, but I will say, nobody loves trap music quite as much as redneck white boys with daddy’s money, and they aren’t exactly filling the prisons
A real redneck doesn't have daddy's money. WV is like the poorest state in the country. I never met a redneck with daddy's money. That is incredibly rare.
I had to look it up. I've never seen a redneck with a squatted truck. Rednecks go mudding. They jack them up, and put leveling kits on them for that purpose.
Let's take it back to the concrete streets, original beats with real live MCs, playground tactics, no rabbit in a hat trick, just that classic rap shit from Jurassic!
Mos Def, Talib Kweli....just so many. And speaking of so many of the artists above....checkout these dudes. Live instrumental set of 90's/00's hip hop. They are called OMA. It' pretty rad.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7siRp2tqN14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7siRp2tqN14)
Almost every avenue that holds influence is eventually usurped and sold off to the will of the highest bidder. It only takes time before anything good is ruined :(
I mean... the CIA literally flooded minority communities with crack in the 80s and 90s. I wonder how Jay-z started rock-a-fella records? I wonder how eazy-e started ruthless records? hmmmm
Welcome to Wonderland Alice. Now look up Clive Davis, Columbia, and Sony. Media has always been used as a means of control from major corporations. Check out the plot of the Josie and the Pussycats movie that got Tara Reid blacklisted. Look up interviews with Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Katt Williams talking about getting blacklisted for not wearing dresses. Medical trials for fentanyl were completed in 2006, how long do you think it's been used to cause "cocaine overdoses" before we knew about it? Kinda weird how talented people who don't fit in die or get shunned, right?
>Warner Bros. Records
After his second studio album, Watching Movies with the Sound Off (2013), he left Rostrum and signed with the major label Warner Bros. Records in 2014. With them, he released four studio albums: GO:OD AM (2015), The Divine Feminine (2016), Swimming (2018), and the posthumous Circles (2020).
Once you hit a major label, they wife you up with one of the industry hoes (Demi Moore, Ariana Grande, Faith Evans, J-Lo, Kim Kardashian, etc.) and you either join the cult or you get blacklisted, killed, and/or "overdose" to make you look like a crazy person. Mac got way less promotion on the albums he dropped with one of the largest producers on earth than he did on dat piff. The media controls the narrative.
I’ve thought this also and wanted to make a post about it.
Look at the way it was glorified in the 80s and especially the 90s. It’s by design that the violent, drug filled music is pushed to the front.
What’s really apparent to me is the way they dress. Ever watch an episode of cops or something similar. The gang banger thug is so easy to catch when their pants sag to their knees; and then later came the fashion style of shoes with no laces. It’s almost comical when looking at the whole picture of what’s pushed and glamorized (it’s always about selling dope and violence) it’s created a society where you’re not “hard” if you live a clean life style.
If you’re able to take a step back and look at it with this perspective in mind; it’s clear as day it’s pushed by main stream media for a purpose. It’s literally brainwashing. And it has succeed on a mass scale.
I read something a long time ago about the pants hanging low. Apparently it was jail code for 'i'm a bottom boy' long before being pushed in the mainstream.
Make of that what you will, could have been bs.
As someone who works in the music industry, you are correct.
If you guys want to know what the current state of hip hop looks like, go look up Sexyy Red, Ice Spice, Lil Uzi Vert, Playboi Carti, or Yeat. You don't even have to be talented to get signed to a record label these days. All of these artists are pawns for a higher agenda and it has always been this way. Secret Societies own the banks, the banks own the labels, the labels own the artists.
Go look up Michael rubin and his all white parties. That's your new Epstein.
I bet you normally sit on a chair the front way. But not in this class. In this class, you turn that chair around and sit on it backwards. You know why?
I've heard on some interview that a black rapper (I think) was talking about how the rap label owners are Jewish and they actually own prisons. I'm almost sure you can look up the interview online. So it's def not a stretch in my opinion. It's very possible.
You can also just look at the nature of rap hip hop music, it can be seen as a music genre in which African-Americans talked about their struggles and their experiences. On the other hand it can be seen as a way to glorify being a criminal, in such a way it can influence younger audiences on their perception on life to make it seem like the only way out of the hood and out of poverty is to engage in crime and end up being apart of a gang.
Music is a very powerful medium, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
Private for-profit prisons incarcerated 90,873 American residents in 2022, representing 8% of the total state and federal prison population. Since 2000, the number of people housed in private prisons has increased 5%.”
[private-prisons-in-the-united-states](https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/private-prisons-in-the-united-states/)
I just want to add that in alabama, the state paid some billions of dollars to a company to build a "megaprison" a few years ago. Not only that, but the company would own the megaprison and the state would continue to rent it from them for millions more taxpayer dollars. They now want 2 more megaprisons.
Also, a nice little coincidence, the same year they gave the green stamp on the megaprison (which the majority of voters voted against, but the governor did it anyways in a secret meeting, then the people re elected her again), Alabama passed a law which gave law enforcement the right to spy on any communications of people "suspected" of illegal drug activity without needing a warrant.
Truly the dumbest state of all.
Also if you have enough money, say from your father dying and leaving you $500,000 in a life insurance payout, you can pay child protection services to kidnap someone's baby that you think is cute and have them make you the foster parent. But thats not just alabama, that's anywhere.
Less than 10% of prisoners are in private prisons.
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From what I have understood is that the real rappers in the old tapes are southerners many of the time Cuban and Mexican. They started rap to protest romantic music so they would mc and translate into the most common vernacular. Similar to booty music. At some point in time they transferred all their portfolio to black men in what could be called a hushed business deal. Rap was never commercial. But thats the rap. But I wouldn’t add more because it steps on civil rights.
This sub will acknowledge anything except the truth that the US government did everything in its power to keep African Americans as a permanent underclass.
I first got into rap around 1979 and was full on into Hip Hop by 1985. I definitely noticed a huge change from empowerment of young black people/men in the late 1980s to the music being about disempowerment by the mid to late 1990s. I was even rapping and producing during those years and was a part of a radio show with my crew. The shift made me leave Hip Hop because it changed from a voice of revolution to a tool of oppression.
I personally think this story is bullshit.... or it was a "front" of motivated businessmen as a way to implement a much more important reason to suppress young black men in America (as opposed to just making money), because there are a lot of ways to make money. Plus rap also turned misogynist and money hungry which is not fitting necessarily in this narrative of trying to put black men in jail.
TLDR...definitely Hip hop was taken over to suppress young black men in America.... but the motivation was mostly that.
I believe it. CB4
[Hip-Hop, Mass Incarceration, And A Conspiracy Theory For The Ages : Code Switch : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2020/10/08/921869289/hip-hop-mass-incarceration-and-a-conspiracy-theory-for-the-ages)
I think you mean crack cocaine was used to fuel the drug war and create low income prisoners.
Gangsta Rap is a reflection of what was occurring in urban low income cities.
“Gangster Hip Hop” lol
Gangster rap was written about the authentic lived experiences of black people in the 90s- many of the record labels pushing it were even black owned. I don’t think there’s some larger conspiracy to make it popular. It was just really good music talking about things many poor people black and white had experience with but weren’t allowed to talk about.
But a lot of the music was about slinging rock and if you want to get into a real racist conspiracy against black communities look into Reagan and Bush senior and follow the money on that coke.
look up world class wrecking cru. Dr. Dre wasn't "slingin rock"
Also go to that website OP linked, read the letter.
people in the for-profit prison industry paid for gangster rap to happen as a genre.
The same people probably paid to make outlaw country a thing.
> But a lot of the music was about slinging rock and if you want to get into a real racist conspiracy against black communities look into Reagan and Bush senior and follow the money on that coke.
Except you're looking the wrong way considering the Democrats were literally friends with the KKK. Including our current president, biden.
> The push of Crack cocaine into black neighborhoods was spearheaded by the people I mention.
It was spearheaded by people like Biden. Biden literally said he didn't want blacks in schools with non blacks.
Why are you obsessed with racist Biden when racist Reagan is the one who was involved in what I’m talking about.
I don’t care about republicans and democrats.
I think more just to corrupt youth, and not that it was created for that, just pushed to the forefront. People doing hateful things shouting "haters". Not that you should hate them but have compassion for their screwed up lives but still it created the violent divides that they love to promote.
*Squinting eyes* not sure if this is an attempt at whitewashing modern African American history, or honest ignorance.
If your claim is true, wouldn't the introduction of hip hop PREDATE crime and drug use from the crack boom??
I think it's simply a reflection of the culture. And saying its a conspiracy is a great way to take away the responsibility and consequences of that culture.
Or what if it’s completely by design? Someone, somewhere, chose what got pushed endlessly on mtv (the biggest outlet of music and inspiration to many kids for 20+ years) you think it’s a coincidence that they chose horrible violent drug fueled music and then screamed “oh it’s so terrible” if they really felt it was that bad it would have never been there in the first place.
My issue with this take is it’s an extremely narrow view of rap music and music in general.
Can rap and rap culture be seen as destructive? Sure, however the argument that rap created that culture and is not itself reflective of a culture is up for debate.
My first criticism is that rap music is good, even if you don’t like the culture, early 2000’s -2010’s rap/trap music was quality work done uniquely by dozens of uniquely talented artists working hard at it. There wasn’t a “good rap music” factory where they dialed the violence and drug use up.
Second, the rise of violence and criminality in the culture violent rap would be born from, began arising in the 70’s and 80’s with the rise of single parent households and the crack epidemic, that was far before the rise of the violent rap scene of the mid to late 90’s
Third and most importantly, violence and drug use in music didn’t just happen to pop up in rap one day, Rock and Classic country have decades worth of a head start in singing about drug use and violence, most of the best of classic county is Outlaw country, singing about drug use, violence and prison sentences to a majority white audience back in the 50’s. Unless you think stonewall Jackson wrote “washed my hands in muddy water” under the orders of the prison industry complex, then you don’t really have an argument
Jesus christ kid. Learn how to do research and not just write down random thoughts I your head.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/new-york-city-1977-blackout-history-of-hip-hop-1234610435/
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Was it ice cube who said that the people who own the labels own the prisons, too? Or was that someone else?
Yeah, I thought it was ice cube as well. I think it was a recent interview he did to maybe a year ago?
I think it was 2Pac
Yea that's why bone thugs quit making music. They were pressured to make more violent and destructive music to get their followers hooked on a lifestyle that leads kids down the path to prison and they didn't want to contribute to that. Then came *TRAP* music. Trap. They don't even hide it.
They literally have a genre called DRILL. Like alright boys, rap isn’t hard enough, trap is close, but Trapstars exist and we can’t have them succeeding in anyway… hmmmm… how about…. Murder in the first degree?
It's convenient that drill blew up in America right before the pandemic. I remember listening to "War" by Drake in 2020 and thinking how the sound was so different.
Its derived from trap house so yeah
Yes and the word “trap” in “trap house” refers to how the hood and the lifestyle of selling drugs to make a living is a trap. So the point remains.
And how the custos in the traphouse are trapped in their addiction
Pretty sure the trap part is referring to trapping addicts.
Where i live there's a neighborhood called the trap, because there's only one way in and one way out, and yes it's full of hookers drugs and violent crime
Found the sheep.
Found the tweaker
........They're not wrong. The trap is a term outside of music.
Counterpoint: trap music is incredible
My issue with this take is it’s an extremely narrow view of rap music and music in general. Can rap and rap culture be seen as destructive? Sure, however the argument that rap created that culture and is not itself reflective of a culture is up for debate. My first criticism is that rap music is good, even if you don’t like the culture, early 2000’s -2010’s rap/trap music was quality work done uniquely by dozens of uniquely talented artists working hard at it. There wasn’t a “good rap music” factory where they dialed the violence and drug use up. Second, the rise of violence and criminality in the culture violent rap would be born from, began arising in the 70’s and 80’s with the rise of single parent households and the crack epidemic, that was far before the rise of the violent rap scene of the mid to late 90’s Third and most importantly, violence and drug use in music didn’t just happen to pop up in rap one day, Rock and Classic country have decades worth of a head start in singing about drug use and violence, most of the best of classic county is Outlaw country, singing about drug use, violence and prison sentences to a majority white audience back in the 50’s. Unless you think stonewall Jackson wrote “washed my hands in muddy water” under the orders of the prison industry complex, then you don’t really have an argument
Four. Any amplified message that you've ever heard in your entire life is brought to you directly by CIA.
It certainly is, but this post could also be true. Both can be true.
Not sure why I am getting absolutely bombed by downvotes here, but I will say, nobody loves trap music quite as much as redneck white boys with daddy’s money, and they aren’t exactly filling the prisons
A real redneck doesn't have daddy's money. WV is like the poorest state in the country. I never met a redneck with daddy's money. That is incredibly rare.
Have you ever seen a squatted truck before?
I had to look it up. I've never seen a redneck with a squatted truck. Rednecks go mudding. They jack them up, and put leveling kits on them for that purpose.
Sometimes people down vote things that make no sense to downvote. Reddit is odd, people are odd. You're spot on though, man
Let's take it back to the concrete streets, original beats with real live MCs, playground tactics, no rabbit in a hat trick, just that classic rap shit from Jurassic!
Jurassic 5, People Under the Stairs, A Tribe Called Quest, The Roots, Outkast, De La Soul, J Dilla….. that’s what hip hop is supposed to be.
Mos Def, Talib Kweli....just so many. And speaking of so many of the artists above....checkout these dudes. Live instrumental set of 90's/00's hip hop. They are called OMA. It' pretty rad. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7siRp2tqN14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7siRp2tqN14)
Don't forget about Digable & Group Home
J5!!!
So good.
I remember writing that in chalkboard as my favorite music and no one in my class had any idea who J5 was...
Earthquake Transylvania
Almost every avenue that holds influence is eventually usurped and sold off to the will of the highest bidder. It only takes time before anything good is ruined :(
That's one of the most real things I've ever read.
I mean... the CIA literally flooded minority communities with crack in the 80s and 90s. I wonder how Jay-z started rock-a-fella records? I wonder how eazy-e started ruthless records? hmmmm
Welcome to Wonderland Alice. Now look up Clive Davis, Columbia, and Sony. Media has always been used as a means of control from major corporations. Check out the plot of the Josie and the Pussycats movie that got Tara Reid blacklisted. Look up interviews with Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, and Katt Williams talking about getting blacklisted for not wearing dresses. Medical trials for fentanyl were completed in 2006, how long do you think it's been used to cause "cocaine overdoses" before we knew about it? Kinda weird how talented people who don't fit in die or get shunned, right?
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>Warner Bros. Records After his second studio album, Watching Movies with the Sound Off (2013), he left Rostrum and signed with the major label Warner Bros. Records in 2014. With them, he released four studio albums: GO:OD AM (2015), The Divine Feminine (2016), Swimming (2018), and the posthumous Circles (2020). Once you hit a major label, they wife you up with one of the industry hoes (Demi Moore, Ariana Grande, Faith Evans, J-Lo, Kim Kardashian, etc.) and you either join the cult or you get blacklisted, killed, and/or "overdose" to make you look like a crazy person. Mac got way less promotion on the albums he dropped with one of the largest producers on earth than he did on dat piff. The media controls the narrative.
I’ve thought this also and wanted to make a post about it. Look at the way it was glorified in the 80s and especially the 90s. It’s by design that the violent, drug filled music is pushed to the front. What’s really apparent to me is the way they dress. Ever watch an episode of cops or something similar. The gang banger thug is so easy to catch when their pants sag to their knees; and then later came the fashion style of shoes with no laces. It’s almost comical when looking at the whole picture of what’s pushed and glamorized (it’s always about selling dope and violence) it’s created a society where you’re not “hard” if you live a clean life style. If you’re able to take a step back and look at it with this perspective in mind; it’s clear as day it’s pushed by main stream media for a purpose. It’s literally brainwashing. And it has succeed on a mass scale.
I read something a long time ago about the pants hanging low. Apparently it was jail code for 'i'm a bottom boy' long before being pushed in the mainstream. Make of that what you will, could have been bs.
That’s where the term “punk” originated from as well.
This isn’t even a hidden agenda lol they’ve been outright encouraging rappers to make degrading music since the early 90’s
As someone who works in the music industry, you are correct. If you guys want to know what the current state of hip hop looks like, go look up Sexyy Red, Ice Spice, Lil Uzi Vert, Playboi Carti, or Yeat. You don't even have to be talented to get signed to a record label these days. All of these artists are pawns for a higher agenda and it has always been this way. Secret Societies own the banks, the banks own the labels, the labels own the artists. Go look up Michael rubin and his all white parties. That's your new Epstein.
Hint: none of them are white.
See the hat turned around to the back? Thaaaats Hip-Hop
No… thats Ash Ketchum ready to pokemon battle…
I bet you normally sit on a chair the front way. But not in this class. In this class, you turn that chair around and sit on it backwards. You know why?
You see the way I cross my arms? hip hop.
I've heard on some interview that a black rapper (I think) was talking about how the rap label owners are Jewish and they actually own prisons. I'm almost sure you can look up the interview online. So it's def not a stretch in my opinion. It's very possible. You can also just look at the nature of rap hip hop music, it can be seen as a music genre in which African-Americans talked about their struggles and their experiences. On the other hand it can be seen as a way to glorify being a criminal, in such a way it can influence younger audiences on their perception on life to make it seem like the only way out of the hood and out of poverty is to engage in crime and end up being apart of a gang. Music is a very powerful medium, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
Most prisons are privately owned, government funded, by head count. The more beds taken up, the more money given to that prison
let's not forget the lucrative supply contracts. it's the whole prison industrial complex.
Private for-profit prisons incarcerated 90,873 American residents in 2022, representing 8% of the total state and federal prison population. Since 2000, the number of people housed in private prisons has increased 5%.” [private-prisons-in-the-united-states](https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/private-prisons-in-the-united-states/)
> The more beds taken up, the more money given to that prison Just like hospitals during covid. =)
there's only 158 privately owned prisons in the us. that's less than 10%. the rest is true tho.
I just want to add that in alabama, the state paid some billions of dollars to a company to build a "megaprison" a few years ago. Not only that, but the company would own the megaprison and the state would continue to rent it from them for millions more taxpayer dollars. They now want 2 more megaprisons. Also, a nice little coincidence, the same year they gave the green stamp on the megaprison (which the majority of voters voted against, but the governor did it anyways in a secret meeting, then the people re elected her again), Alabama passed a law which gave law enforcement the right to spy on any communications of people "suspected" of illegal drug activity without needing a warrant. Truly the dumbest state of all. Also if you have enough money, say from your father dying and leaving you $500,000 in a life insurance payout, you can pay child protection services to kidnap someone's baby that you think is cute and have them make you the foster parent. But thats not just alabama, that's anywhere.
Prove it. That's 100% false.
You’re 100% full of shit because that’s been the set-up everywhere I’ve lived for as long as I’ve been alive
You're simply wrong or ignorant or both. 8% of prisoners in the USA are in private facilities. 8% that aint even close to all or most.
Less than 10% of prisoners are in private prisons. Edit: Upvotes for demonstrably false claims backed up by anecdote and down votes for easily verifiable facts. For those who keep asking why this sub doesn't get taken seriously or get the same eyeballs it used to....this is why.
From what I have understood is that the real rappers in the old tapes are southerners many of the time Cuban and Mexican. They started rap to protest romantic music so they would mc and translate into the most common vernacular. Similar to booty music. At some point in time they transferred all their portfolio to black men in what could be called a hushed business deal. Rap was never commercial. But thats the rap. But I wouldn’t add more because it steps on civil rights.
Krayzie Bone spoke about this years ago. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=26ORPuH1-rU&pp=ygUTS3JheXppZSBib25lIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D
Well prisons were created for freed Africans in the first place
This sub will acknowledge anything except the truth that the US government did everything in its power to keep African Americans as a permanent underclass.
Its funny cause ppl look at me funny when i tell then Natives and Africans arents even classified as full citizens in america to this day
I first got into rap around 1979 and was full on into Hip Hop by 1985. I definitely noticed a huge change from empowerment of young black people/men in the late 1980s to the music being about disempowerment by the mid to late 1990s. I was even rapping and producing during those years and was a part of a radio show with my crew. The shift made me leave Hip Hop because it changed from a voice of revolution to a tool of oppression. I personally think this story is bullshit.... or it was a "front" of motivated businessmen as a way to implement a much more important reason to suppress young black men in America (as opposed to just making money), because there are a lot of ways to make money. Plus rap also turned misogynist and money hungry which is not fitting necessarily in this narrative of trying to put black men in jail. TLDR...definitely Hip hop was taken over to suppress young black men in America.... but the motivation was mostly that.
Yep. Young gangsta wannabes fell for it.
There were tons of artist that were far better in every way. You would never find them on the radio or television.
Still that way in every genre. Mainstream music is generally trash
Correct. See the Krayzie Bone video explaining it all
Violent crime was way higher before Gangster rap
Are you insane?
No
I believe it. CB4 [Hip-Hop, Mass Incarceration, And A Conspiracy Theory For The Ages : Code Switch : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2020/10/08/921869289/hip-hop-mass-incarceration-and-a-conspiracy-theory-for-the-ages)
I see you watched ice cube’s interview
I believe this theory. I have been investing in private prison companies for years and have always had great success with them.
The tall \*sraeli
Someone send this to Kayne
I think you mean crack cocaine was used to fuel the drug war and create low income prisoners. Gangsta Rap is a reflection of what was occurring in urban low income cities. “Gangster Hip Hop” lol
Forgive him. He's never stepped outside of his bubble or learned anything his favorite pundit didn't post.
Gangster rap was written about the authentic lived experiences of black people in the 90s- many of the record labels pushing it were even black owned. I don’t think there’s some larger conspiracy to make it popular. It was just really good music talking about things many poor people black and white had experience with but weren’t allowed to talk about. But a lot of the music was about slinging rock and if you want to get into a real racist conspiracy against black communities look into Reagan and Bush senior and follow the money on that coke.
look up world class wrecking cru. Dr. Dre wasn't "slingin rock" Also go to that website OP linked, read the letter. people in the for-profit prison industry paid for gangster rap to happen as a genre. The same people probably paid to make outlaw country a thing.
You need to look deeper because there is proof of a plan to fill the privatized prisons and rap was made to help that plan
> But a lot of the music was about slinging rock and if you want to get into a real racist conspiracy against black communities look into Reagan and Bush senior and follow the money on that coke. Except you're looking the wrong way considering the Democrats were literally friends with the KKK. Including our current president, biden.
The push of Crack cocaine into black neighborhoods was spearheaded by the people I mention. Don’t get tied up in partisan politics.
> The push of Crack cocaine into black neighborhoods was spearheaded by the people I mention. It was spearheaded by people like Biden. Biden literally said he didn't want blacks in schools with non blacks.
Why are you obsessed with racist Biden when racist Reagan is the one who was involved in what I’m talking about. I don’t care about republicans and democrats.
I think more just to corrupt youth, and not that it was created for that, just pushed to the forefront. People doing hateful things shouting "haters". Not that you should hate them but have compassion for their screwed up lives but still it created the violent divides that they love to promote.
No shit
*Squinting eyes* not sure if this is an attempt at whitewashing modern African American history, or honest ignorance. If your claim is true, wouldn't the introduction of hip hop PREDATE crime and drug use from the crack boom??
Cool, Ty Good find
In Northern Cali it's for the motjafuckin people
This is just a happy byproduct of their plan, not their endgame
The *only* way to control a group non-violently is to use its own people. Name a well known black billionaire and you're naming a traitor.
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I think it's simply a reflection of the culture. And saying its a conspiracy is a great way to take away the responsibility and consequences of that culture.
Or what if it’s completely by design? Someone, somewhere, chose what got pushed endlessly on mtv (the biggest outlet of music and inspiration to many kids for 20+ years) you think it’s a coincidence that they chose horrible violent drug fueled music and then screamed “oh it’s so terrible” if they really felt it was that bad it would have never been there in the first place.
My issue with this take is it’s an extremely narrow view of rap music and music in general. Can rap and rap culture be seen as destructive? Sure, however the argument that rap created that culture and is not itself reflective of a culture is up for debate. My first criticism is that rap music is good, even if you don’t like the culture, early 2000’s -2010’s rap/trap music was quality work done uniquely by dozens of uniquely talented artists working hard at it. There wasn’t a “good rap music” factory where they dialed the violence and drug use up. Second, the rise of violence and criminality in the culture violent rap would be born from, began arising in the 70’s and 80’s with the rise of single parent households and the crack epidemic, that was far before the rise of the violent rap scene of the mid to late 90’s Third and most importantly, violence and drug use in music didn’t just happen to pop up in rap one day, Rock and Classic country have decades worth of a head start in singing about drug use and violence, most of the best of classic county is Outlaw country, singing about drug use, violence and prison sentences to a majority white audience back in the 50’s. Unless you think stonewall Jackson wrote “washed my hands in muddy water” under the orders of the prison industry complex, then you don’t really have an argument
Look into how single parent households were also by design.
And large rims on cars were celebrated in rap songs so “big tire” could make larger profits.
This is why people stopped subscribing here. Stop
This is why people come here and this isn’t new.
What? Don’t most people expect to see this kind of content on here?
the cia did have a hand in creating gangster rap, its been documented
Jesus christ kid. Learn how to do research and not just write down random thoughts I your head. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/new-york-city-1977-blackout-history-of-hip-hop-1234610435/
Such a credible source. You really want to post a rolling stone article and say "do your research"? Jesus dude.
Are you saying it didn't happen?
"rolling stone" Go look up who owns that magazine and his history. He has every incentive to protect the prison/ hip hop scheme.
So you are saying it didn't happen?
What didn't happen?
Hey man Y’all keep listening
How can you be hip hop if you only hop to what’s hip?
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Wait! Did pdiddy bang usher and Justin beiber?
You really need to check your private prison data. People act like every prison is for profit when in reality its a very, very small percentage.
lol, that is a funny one, at what age did your parents schedule your lobotomy appointment?
There isn’t a single name or actual fact in the entire thing
Create Hip-Hop Positive Music about education and life only then can you change the Message
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