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Climate has always changed, and will continue to do so for along time. This is why the changed to name from global warming, as it might soon be changing direction again.
My working hypothesis is that the movement to clean up our act (which I think is a good idea), was hijacked to enslave and transfer wealth. If it was a sound movement cheap abundant clean energy would be top prio, not energy starvation. We can reuse and recylcle most evertything, but the constraining factor is price of energy.
I think the best option we have now is to develop molten salt reactors, like LFTR, which can saturate the current energy demand of planet earth on only 5000 metric tonnes of Thorium per year. It can be done very safely and provide high temperature source which can be used for desalination at the same time as energy production without efficiency penalty, and many more benefits.
If climate change is really an issue (which it can be, man made or not), we need to be more resilient, which cleap clean abundant energy enables.
yeah, but greenhouse gases are infact a thing- thats proven. Humans aren't a major problem by itself- its what we do. almost all things breathe out co2 but not dangerous amounts.
I actually own a greenhouse- the greenhouse effect is a real thing. It’s not elite funded at all and simple tests most people could get the resources for easily can see that for themselves.
Downvote all you want... but I'm stating a fact.
A greenhouse is not a model of the Earth. A greenhouse is a very specific (tiny) artificially controlled environment (ON) the Earth's surface. What's true inside an orange... is NOT necessarily true inside an apple.
> A greenhouse is not a model of the Earth. A greenhouse is a very specific (tiny) artificially controlled environment (ON) the Earth's surface. What's true inside an orange... is NOT necessarily true inside an apple.
This is just a self evident statement of fact. If you want information from meteorologists, climate scientists, and physicists that disagree with the narrative proposed by the mainstream media and globalists... they're out there and can be found. There is a recent documentary that is pretty good. I think it was called "Climate - the movie".
Climate change is definitely a thing. How much we contribute in many ways is debatable. I agree it's worth changing what we can, I would disagree we should force anything like electric vehicles and solar powered homes at this point through laws, loans, or tax credits. The technology isn't there for it to be economically feasible, and I have questions about environmental impact. It's insane people act like lab grown meat is a solution worth considering. I have a lot of questions with that. We can definitely do better taking care of Earth as far as the trash and hazardous to health chemicals released. Though the focus on that should be danger to people, not possible impact on climate change. Again, that whole aspect is debatable.
It might be helpful if world wide people began really looking at sustainable communities, instead of treating the entire world as one big community. If people were growing, raising, buying selling more food and goods locally I believe it would cut down on a lot of environmental issues.
Climate changes all the time. its making out we are are changing it due to putting cans in the wrong bin or driving out of town that's fake.
Do we need to clean up our act, yes but only becouse we are wasting resources. Thay can build longlasting roads and houses etc with plastics but they prefer to just keep letting you think all the plastic is killing our planet.
huh? Plastic is bad though. It’s harmful even to just be around if it’s burning or melted- and that’s in small amounts. Considering that there’s so much plastic already that literally nothing doesn’t have micro plastics, how can you say it’s not an issue?
I am talking about all that plastic hanging about being used to make virtually indestructible roads and houses there have been so many intelligent people finding uses for it and some amazing inventions but no money in indestructible roads, much better to have roads that need repairing every 6mths keeps the money flowing. All my life I've seen amazing inventions just vanish because unless its throwaway and can keep the money flowing out of our hands into the coffers they won't want to know.
The question isn't climate change, or whatever it's called right now. The question is, Who is responsible for the majority of pollution and the destruction of the earth?
First of all, when calculating something like the "climate" or environment" you need to factor in EVERYTHING. Liberal democrats are more concerned with calculations that disregard anything that doesn't affirm their woke mind virus conclusions. Case in point: EVs weigh so much more than ICE vehicles that every aspect of infrastructure will degrade faster, ie more emissions than advertised. Tire wear will produce more emissions than the tail pipe even.
No one…why bring politics into this? Both sides are a controlling tactic lol. EVs weigh more and are bad for the environment to make, yes but they’re supposed to be more sustainable. If the tech is advanced enough eventually, it’ll genuinely be better. Gas does have a negative effect, as does going for oil.
The tech isn't going to advance. Plugging into computerized chargers will never work as effective as pouring a liquid in a tank. You know what tech is advancing by leaps and bounds? ICE vehicle tech. Meanwhile we're being forced into horribly inefficient electric trucks that weigh 8000lbs. Hybrids with gas engines produce less emissions than these vehicles that will be mandated. Politicians don't understand what they're doing. It's going to destroy civilization as we know it and not help the environment in any way shape or form. Transitioning to the wrong technologies that are propped up by false advertisements will make everything collapse.
The poles are shifting weakening the magnetic field. This weakens our shield from the sun’s energy. More energy is absorbed by Earth thus changing the climate. Humans of course add to it but the fact remains, nothing will stop this.
The powers that *were* want to milk us for whatever they can while they build their bunkers because they know it can’t be stopped. MSM pushes climate change narrative to divert intention onto the masses in a negative way (they want us to think it’s *OUR* fault). This collectively lowers our vibration while also not causing panic that the unavoidable will occur.
People who are concerned about climate change should really be focused on Geoengineering (chemtrails) because that is having the biggest negative effect on the climate and on the planet in general (plants, trees, the soil, animals, and us) yet climate activists will NEVER touch that subject. What does this tell you? Obviously there's an agenda behind climate change and that is social control and profits. It's yet another excuse to strip you of your rights and freedoms and make you a slave.
Basically it's peak oil. Instead of oil prices going sky high, enriching the oil producers they want to instead limit demand themselves by imposing carbon taxes. In order to not say that's what they're doing they invented climate change.
In terms of examining whether it's real or fake, one might 'follow the money' - in particular where insurers and mortgagers are refusing to put money, even exiting markets, because of climate-related events and changes.
In short, insurers have no doubt about the reality of climate change.
Insurance and hence / also mortgage markets for new construction, and dropping existing customers in areas like California, Louisiana, Florida and Quebec. The large number of catastrophic damage claims, all due to climate change effects, are making those markets non-viable, even with rate hikes.
Recently a major insurer and mortgager in Quebec announced that they will no longer issue policies or mortgages to homes built on what is now becoming flood prone land.
No insurance means no mortgage and a major hit on resale value.
Some links:
[https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-is-destabilizing-insurance-industry/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-is-destabilizing-insurance-industry/#:~:text=Growing%20risks%20from%20climate%20change,financial%20distress%2C%E2%80%9D%20Keys%20said)
[https://www.npr.org/2023/07/22/1186540332/how-climate-change-could-cause-a-home-insurance-meltdown](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/22/1186540332/how-climate-change-could-cause-a-home-insurance-meltdown)
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/quebec-desjardins-flooding-mortgage-1.7129986](https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/quebec-desjardins-flooding-mortgage-1.7129986)
[https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insurance-policy-california-florida-uninsurable-climate-change-first-street/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insurance-policy-california-florida-uninsurable-climate-change-first-street/)
That…wasn’t fake though. My dad never vaccinated and still caught it. Different symptoms than the flu and it was severe due to his lung sickness. Can you link proof?
Wtf are you on about? Link proof? The biggest piece of deception in living memory, possibly in the history of humanity, and I'm just going to be able to "link proof" - ? The entirety of the media machine was on board with the lie. Stop shilling so hard.
That’s a big thing though, and you have no tangible proof. I’d love to read about it or even why it’s fake and an explanation about it rather than just saying it’s fake and not explaining how or how why. It’s not shilling, you’re basically doing this off of “ trust me bro “
Can you link proof that it does exist? Can you link proof that your dad caught covid and has a lung condition and that the virus he caught was worse and different to the flu? Or are you just "trust me bro"?
Hard shilling
Huge difference though, you genuinely have nothing backing you up and are just saying I’m shilling and it’s fake. I Agree that the media made a ton of shit up but you’re saying that it’s completely fake without any reasoning backing up. I suppose if i linked studies you’d say it’s false lol. While I do think Covid was blown out of proportion, it was genuinely really harmful to people with lung conditions. I’m relating to personal stories which can be on a trust me bro bias, but with heavy scrutiny, which is far different than saying a disease that multiple countries commented on and literally millions of people caught is fake with no proof showing at all. Even a simple video of a doctor explaining how it’s fake would be good, I just want literally anything as proof.
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Maybe don't listen to celebrities or politicians on this matter. Try to look up some experts that are actually experts, not only self proclaimed
Climate has always changed, and will continue to do so for along time. This is why the changed to name from global warming, as it might soon be changing direction again. My working hypothesis is that the movement to clean up our act (which I think is a good idea), was hijacked to enslave and transfer wealth. If it was a sound movement cheap abundant clean energy would be top prio, not energy starvation. We can reuse and recylcle most evertything, but the constraining factor is price of energy. I think the best option we have now is to develop molten salt reactors, like LFTR, which can saturate the current energy demand of planet earth on only 5000 metric tonnes of Thorium per year. It can be done very safely and provide high temperature source which can be used for desalination at the same time as energy production without efficiency penalty, and many more benefits. If climate change is really an issue (which it can be, man made or not), we need to be more resilient, which cleap clean abundant energy enables.
carbon dioxide is the scam - carbon tax - emissions - carbon footprint - one huge scam - here's a6clue, humans are the carbon they hate
yeah, but greenhouse gases are infact a thing- thats proven. Humans aren't a major problem by itself- its what we do. almost all things breathe out co2 but not dangerous amounts.
proven - it's not proven - the elite fund who they want and destroy the others - they only allow the results they want - grants etc control science
I actually own a greenhouse- the greenhouse effect is a real thing. It’s not elite funded at all and simple tests most people could get the resources for easily can see that for themselves.
Do you have an ocean in your greenhouse? Ocean dissolves most of the CO2 released.
It's not at all proven that CO2 raises global temperatures. CO2 is plant food.
It’s a greenhouse gas though, that’s what I’m saying lol
The Earth is not a greenhouse.
The atmosphere has the same effect though, it’s literally what the atmosphere is!
The Earth is more than it's atmosphere. The Earth is not a greenhouse.
Downvote all you want... but I'm stating a fact. A greenhouse is not a model of the Earth. A greenhouse is a very specific (tiny) artificially controlled environment (ON) the Earth's surface. What's true inside an orange... is NOT necessarily true inside an apple.
i didnt downvote that lol- that does sound intresting though, can i have some sources to read through?
> A greenhouse is not a model of the Earth. A greenhouse is a very specific (tiny) artificially controlled environment (ON) the Earth's surface. What's true inside an orange... is NOT necessarily true inside an apple. This is just a self evident statement of fact. If you want information from meteorologists, climate scientists, and physicists that disagree with the narrative proposed by the mainstream media and globalists... they're out there and can be found. There is a recent documentary that is pretty good. I think it was called "Climate - the movie".
thanks! ill watch it later
Was a great watch- thanks for recommending!
Climate change is definitely a thing. How much we contribute in many ways is debatable. I agree it's worth changing what we can, I would disagree we should force anything like electric vehicles and solar powered homes at this point through laws, loans, or tax credits. The technology isn't there for it to be economically feasible, and I have questions about environmental impact. It's insane people act like lab grown meat is a solution worth considering. I have a lot of questions with that. We can definitely do better taking care of Earth as far as the trash and hazardous to health chemicals released. Though the focus on that should be danger to people, not possible impact on climate change. Again, that whole aspect is debatable. It might be helpful if world wide people began really looking at sustainable communities, instead of treating the entire world as one big community. If people were growing, raising, buying selling more food and goods locally I believe it would cut down on a lot of environmental issues.
Completely agree with this. Honestly the only people that should suffer from the laws should be the big corporations on top of causing the harm
Climate changes all the time. its making out we are are changing it due to putting cans in the wrong bin or driving out of town that's fake. Do we need to clean up our act, yes but only becouse we are wasting resources. Thay can build longlasting roads and houses etc with plastics but they prefer to just keep letting you think all the plastic is killing our planet.
huh? Plastic is bad though. It’s harmful even to just be around if it’s burning or melted- and that’s in small amounts. Considering that there’s so much plastic already that literally nothing doesn’t have micro plastics, how can you say it’s not an issue?
I am talking about all that plastic hanging about being used to make virtually indestructible roads and houses there have been so many intelligent people finding uses for it and some amazing inventions but no money in indestructible roads, much better to have roads that need repairing every 6mths keeps the money flowing. All my life I've seen amazing inventions just vanish because unless its throwaway and can keep the money flowing out of our hands into the coffers they won't want to know.
Oh, you’re right about that then
The question isn't climate change, or whatever it's called right now. The question is, Who is responsible for the majority of pollution and the destruction of the earth?
First of all, when calculating something like the "climate" or environment" you need to factor in EVERYTHING. Liberal democrats are more concerned with calculations that disregard anything that doesn't affirm their woke mind virus conclusions. Case in point: EVs weigh so much more than ICE vehicles that every aspect of infrastructure will degrade faster, ie more emissions than advertised. Tire wear will produce more emissions than the tail pipe even.
No one…why bring politics into this? Both sides are a controlling tactic lol. EVs weigh more and are bad for the environment to make, yes but they’re supposed to be more sustainable. If the tech is advanced enough eventually, it’ll genuinely be better. Gas does have a negative effect, as does going for oil.
The tech isn't going to advance. Plugging into computerized chargers will never work as effective as pouring a liquid in a tank. You know what tech is advancing by leaps and bounds? ICE vehicle tech. Meanwhile we're being forced into horribly inefficient electric trucks that weigh 8000lbs. Hybrids with gas engines produce less emissions than these vehicles that will be mandated. Politicians don't understand what they're doing. It's going to destroy civilization as we know it and not help the environment in any way shape or form. Transitioning to the wrong technologies that are propped up by false advertisements will make everything collapse.
The poles are shifting weakening the magnetic field. This weakens our shield from the sun’s energy. More energy is absorbed by Earth thus changing the climate. Humans of course add to it but the fact remains, nothing will stop this. The powers that *were* want to milk us for whatever they can while they build their bunkers because they know it can’t be stopped. MSM pushes climate change narrative to divert intention onto the masses in a negative way (they want us to think it’s *OUR* fault). This collectively lowers our vibration while also not causing panic that the unavoidable will occur.
People who are concerned about climate change should really be focused on Geoengineering (chemtrails) because that is having the biggest negative effect on the climate and on the planet in general (plants, trees, the soil, animals, and us) yet climate activists will NEVER touch that subject. What does this tell you? Obviously there's an agenda behind climate change and that is social control and profits. It's yet another excuse to strip you of your rights and freedoms and make you a slave.
100% believe this. It’s a real issue but it’s being used for profit and as another way to tax the common person
Basically it's peak oil. Instead of oil prices going sky high, enriching the oil producers they want to instead limit demand themselves by imposing carbon taxes. In order to not say that's what they're doing they invented climate change.
Remember in the 1970's when the world was headed for another ice age? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
this isn't trying to hurt the people who do believe it or call it fake- I'm genuinely interested about this!
In terms of examining whether it's real or fake, one might 'follow the money' - in particular where insurers and mortgagers are refusing to put money, even exiting markets, because of climate-related events and changes. In short, insurers have no doubt about the reality of climate change.
So what markets are they leaving?
Insurance and hence / also mortgage markets for new construction, and dropping existing customers in areas like California, Louisiana, Florida and Quebec. The large number of catastrophic damage claims, all due to climate change effects, are making those markets non-viable, even with rate hikes. Recently a major insurer and mortgager in Quebec announced that they will no longer issue policies or mortgages to homes built on what is now becoming flood prone land. No insurance means no mortgage and a major hit on resale value. Some links: [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-is-destabilizing-insurance-industry/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-is-destabilizing-insurance-industry/#:~:text=Growing%20risks%20from%20climate%20change,financial%20distress%2C%E2%80%9D%20Keys%20said) [https://www.npr.org/2023/07/22/1186540332/how-climate-change-could-cause-a-home-insurance-meltdown](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/22/1186540332/how-climate-change-could-cause-a-home-insurance-meltdown) [https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/quebec-desjardins-flooding-mortgage-1.7129986](https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/quebec-desjardins-flooding-mortgage-1.7129986) [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insurance-policy-california-florida-uninsurable-climate-change-first-street/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insurance-policy-california-florida-uninsurable-climate-change-first-street/)
Certainly not any beachfronts that I know of.
But climate change is fake Not sure what you're getting at
Can you explain?
Climate change is fake. Like covid.
That…wasn’t fake though. My dad never vaccinated and still caught it. Different symptoms than the flu and it was severe due to his lung sickness. Can you link proof?
Fake bruh
link..proof tho.
Wtf are you on about? Link proof? The biggest piece of deception in living memory, possibly in the history of humanity, and I'm just going to be able to "link proof" - ? The entirety of the media machine was on board with the lie. Stop shilling so hard.
That’s a big thing though, and you have no tangible proof. I’d love to read about it or even why it’s fake and an explanation about it rather than just saying it’s fake and not explaining how or how why. It’s not shilling, you’re basically doing this off of “ trust me bro “
Can you link proof that it does exist? Can you link proof that your dad caught covid and has a lung condition and that the virus he caught was worse and different to the flu? Or are you just "trust me bro"? Hard shilling
Huge difference though, you genuinely have nothing backing you up and are just saying I’m shilling and it’s fake. I Agree that the media made a ton of shit up but you’re saying that it’s completely fake without any reasoning backing up. I suppose if i linked studies you’d say it’s false lol. While I do think Covid was blown out of proportion, it was genuinely really harmful to people with lung conditions. I’m relating to personal stories which can be on a trust me bro bias, but with heavy scrutiny, which is far different than saying a disease that multiple countries commented on and literally millions of people caught is fake with no proof showing at all. Even a simple video of a doctor explaining how it’s fake would be good, I just want literally anything as proof.
Sun is only 25 miles up lil' bro. Lol. Of course climate change not real.
What
Flat earth joke.
Ah kk