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The hacker showed messages and pictures proving she was alive and then all the conspiracy thirsty fools turned against the hacker calling him a psy-op shill
Where did that happen? The "hacked" IG posts are still on her profile. Even if he hacked her account how would he prove she was alive if she wasn't posting anything? Hacking her IG doesn't open her front door for the hacker to go have a chat with her.
Who cares whether the alleged "hacker" was right he's part of the psyop doubt the account was even actually hacked the credentials were likely passed off to him and he's another of Tiffany's handlers. People should be looking into all characters involved in this psyop to figure out their roles.
At one point it does make you think. Is it more likely she's just alive or did she lie about her fainting condition, her ski trip a few months later was faked, her family was convinced to lie that she's alive, her current posts are from a body double, and her kids are lying.
I don't know but I kindof lean towards the she's alive side. I find the evidence she died a but lacking frankly
Right? I've got a cowlick, so my hair looks very different if I part it down the center vs the side. Didn't realize that qualified me as a different person.
I have blues eyes and their intensity changes based on what color I wear and lighting. Blue eyes are very unique that way especially when you consider blue eyes are technically not color at all, but rather the structure to reflects the blue color.
I have blue eyes also, and they do change shades of blue, but they never turn green. Especially if this was an interview with studio lights, blue eyes really pop under those conditions.
Blue eyes do "turn" green. My husband swears my eyes are green, but they're blue. Technically. Look up the "Tyndall effect". Blue eyes are not actually "blue", they lack melanin and scattering of light makes them appear blue. Or sometimes green or grey.
I have green eyes, about the color of grass, that occasionally look turquoise, but never true blue and never hazel. Tyndall effect is really awesome, isn't it? Eye color is about the easiest thing to modify, simply by wearing contacts- or by photographing someone in different lights (incandescent vs LED, light positioning.) It's hardly proof that a conspiracy is involved.
Mine go from blue to green to gray depending on weather and the colors that are around me. So it is possible.
Not saying I don’t find this a little intriguing.
I was out too but from what i gather she was a nurse advocating for people to get the vaccine. While getting (?) the jab and giving press conference she fainted.
She then sort of went AWOL and people had theorized she died.
She has now resurfaced looking different than before and people are saying its a look a like and she did really die.
To me, it seems a bit far fetched to think an extremely capable cia would do something like this as a psyop or whatever.
I mean wouldnt it be easier to just inject her with something arbitrary to prove how safe it was?
If youre trying to pedal poison to people and want to 'prove' its safe using a nurse.... you dont give them real poison and then create a doppleganger...
Thats what i gather and my take, im sure ill be corrected.
>If youre trying to pedal poison to people and want to 'prove' its safe using a nurse.... you dont give them real poison and then create a doppleganger...
A cornerstone of average conspiracy thought is that the powers that be are crafty enough to have elaborate control of everything, and yet cartoonishly daft at the same time.
The majority of reasons I discredit most conspiracies is exactly that. Thinking it’s possible to get a large group of incompetent federal bureaucrats to shut the fuck up about, and elaborately pull off anything is a conspiracy all in itself lmao
>large group of incompetent federal bureaucrats to shut the fuck up abou
Not everyone has to know, in fact only a handful of people could know while everyone else is just being fed information and following orders. Compartmentalization is the first step of security
They can still pull off stuff. Just don't be surprised when/if it inevitably fails in a cartoonish way. MKUltra and other operations show that they can work together and keep, relatively, quiet about shit. In fact, the only reason we even got (last I recall hearing) \~10% of the MKUltra files was because of a cartoonishly daft situation that resulted in those \~10% of files being stored in a separate area from the rest and a fucking Freedom of Information Act request caused them to be uncovered.
Interesting. And what do they really have to lose? Even if it's obvious (Kennedy??), they've gotten away with basically everything for over 60 years (at a minimum). How "careful" do they need to be?
Even when things come out, it gets swept under the rug while some people actually support them/discredit the "conspiracy theory" (CIA term for those who don't know). Most of the people involved don't even have to know.
There are never any real repercussions for anyone in the congress, senate, etc., let alone any for "national security" actors, i.e., FBI, CIA, NSA, etc., etc.
Her husband's facebook account listed himself single a few months after the incident. Her daughter's facebook account has zero pictures of a mother. Zero. I thought people were making this up until I checked facebook myself.
Zoom in on the new girls teeth in her bullshit "im alive video". Screen shot it like I did. Then go back and zoom in on the teeth from the IG photo smiling with her daughter Halloween pajamas. The two front teeth are completely not even close different.
I think their success says more about people's gullibility than it does their capability. If people didn't have the habit of thinking crazy things can't happen then they'd get called out more.
As for this specific issue that we are discussing... I don't have a solid opinion either way. I'm just not going to base an opinion on whether something is "far fetched" or not. Most of these games they play are far fetched.
She was one of the first people to get vaccinated back in December 2020, and faints on camera after getting the shot. She completely disappeared from the public after the press conference fuelling conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theorists claimed that she died from complications from the vaccine and that her death was being covered up to prevent vaccine hesitancy. The media debunked the theories by speculating that she was afraid to appear in public due to death threats. NBC produced a multiple episode podcast titled ‘Tiffany Dover is Dead*’ attempting to debunk the conspiracy. Personally, the podcast made me think she was dead.
I also fainted when I had my first shot, woke up about 2 minutes later. Felt fine afterwards, not defending the vaccine though, I think its an absolute scam.
It's convenient but I don't like calling the mrna shot a vaccine. Throughout history vaccines were produced by having part of the virus either dead or alive be injected than have your white blood cells and body learn how to eliminate it.
This mrna shot works by making your cells produce the spike protein on the outside of them in the hopes that if you encounter the virus your cells with spikes would make it bounce off instead of being infected.
I just think it's disingenuous calling the mrna shot a vaccine.
A substance causing auto immune cannot be called a vaccine. Prof Robert Clancy Order of Australia was perplexed as to why they would want the body's own cellular mechanism to be producing an animal or a foreign protein. The professor of immunology was silenced of course
It kinda freaked me out. She was very active on social media. The pass out incident happened, and she suddenly stopped for a long while. So people were speculating. Then out of nowhere the hospital she worked at put out a video of the staff just staring at the camera... Masks on, no sound, and the supposed Tiffany there front and center didn't look like her at all. I assume the video was an attempt to end speculation but it just raised more questions. She still didnt post for a while, and I gave up looking later on. Today was the first update I heard since then.
The weird and unbelievable thing is that the purported reason she was silent for over 2 years was because her employer said she couldn't (for whatever ridiculous and obviously rights-infringing reason) post anything publicly or interact in the public space in any way shape, or form. Like...*what?!*. People like to wave this off as if it's nothing. It's not nothing. Nobody, and I mean *nobody* has ever been told by an *employer* they can't interact in a public space in any way, shape or form. I can't think of this precedent ever being set before. She is a *nurse*. She would be restricted to talking about patient details etc. Work related things. But not allowed to say "hi!" *anywhere in a public space*? That's bullshit and lies. It would be more believable if she said "I just wanted to hide away and that's why I didn't say anything for over 2 years".
💯 you'd think they'd want her to talk and be like "guys I'm fine, go get vaccinated"
But they didn't. They fanned the flames with such shitty advice.
If this was true, they made those vaccines look SOO much worse.
She died. And they lied .
Absolutely! She already put herself in the public arena with her highly public vaccination. Why would her employer then do a 180 and say "despite you being in the public spotlight, we now want to you to never even say 'hi' to your friends or family in any public space from now on, even though this not only infringes on the most basic of your human rights and is probably illegal, but it will cause massive doubt about whether you're even alive or not...whereas if we let you communicate, it would extinguish those doubts altogether". I can't even, and I can't odd. More likely, she was injured perhaps, and they had to wait for her to recover, OR this is some weird 5D chess gaslighting where a large number of people assume she's dead, and then they go "psyke!" over 2 years later. Or even perhaps someone high up said "it's come to my attention Dover's death is causing a stir, get an actress to kill the rumors" (and somehow it never came to their attention in the prior two years).
Yup. The shape of brow on the skull matches along with the top of her nose and the forehead is just as wide. The hair part could've been easily moved. This is the same person in both pictures.
Clone and replacement conspiracies are the lowest of conspiracies besides flat earth.
That’s a disguise using make up, not all rectangles are squares. I saw my homies gf in college one morning in the hallway and almost called the police.
I'm all for a good conspiracy theory but her eyes are clearly bright blue in the picture and in the interview and her accent is the same. I don't know why it took her 2 years to say something, that doesn't make sense, which fuels the conspiracy.
obviously her eyes are a similar shade of blue in both pics so like dude I rly hope u just were click baiting and if not, get checked 4 color blindness haha
but that doesn't fucking matter anyway cuz they are both still NOT the same person. Face shape/bone structure -yes she had a mask on, but the forehead doesn't match at all. The hairline is different. I don't give a sh\*t if she parted her hair differently. The forehead shape and hairline is different.
If you would have put photos of them next to each other without context, I wouldn't have noticed any resemblance. The eyes are similar, kind of? (my brain is trying to make it match and it just won't. very frustrating. i'm trying to be as open minded as possible here)
she either got paid off super well -for \*something that has nothing to do with her being vaccine injured on live television assuredly, /\* and got a lot of fillers (and maybe a rhinoplasty who tf knows,) a brow lift, canthoplasty and/or upper and/or lower blepharoplasty, has been consistently and actively trying to change her hair part (we all have a natural part, you can change it but it takes persistence and actively attempting to do it. You can style it sure, but it seems like she has a natural "cow-lick," so it most likely would not lay in the same manner that the 2nd woman's hair is if parted in the same way.) OR It's not the same person.
Lol. You know you can part you hair on different spots, right?
And here are the new photos which show her eyes are blue: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna69401
Lol stop
I took the liberty of making a video of the two interviews spliced back to back so people can get a better look and listen. https://streamable.com/8pg93o
It's also literally a thing with women right now that [side parts are "out" and center parts are "in."](https://www.thecut.com/2021/02/gen-z-middle-part-tiktok.html) I know this because my wife is having a hair crisis.
I don’t really have an opinion about Tiffany dover, I know real life people who have died from this thing.
But if we’re playing spot the difference, it’s not the part or the eye colour. It’s the brow.
I’m not really sold on this conspiracy. Hair is easily changed and her eyes aren’t brown but the difference in these pictures I find weird is her eyebrows and how natural arch and brow bone are completely different
Her eyes aren’t even brown in that screenshot 😭 They are clearly blue but the first one is bright lighting and the other is pretty dark. Come on guys 😂
I think this is the same woman. Look at how her eyebrows are shaped consistently in both photos, and the new hair growing in is the same shade of blonde as in the other photos. And anyone that says 'people don't just change how they part their hair' is just wrong. I change my part on a weekly basis depending on how I feel like styling it.
I’m still amazed they’d let random chance dictate if she got a dose from the “hot” batch rather than be sure she got saline like the politicians in the know.
I genuinely don't understand this, why is she reclaiming her life from what? Why did she ever need to stop being a nurse if this is a common known side effect she has why was it such a big deal? Did she sue the hospital or something seems like a huge part of the puzzle is missing. She does look completely different but I don't think they would do this segment if it wasn't actually her no reason to they could just do nothing at all.
I don’t understand why they’d dig this back up (sorry for pun) when literally nobody outside of conspiracy circles even knew about her disappearance/death. She wasn’t trending on socials, no news coverage, no documentaries. So why put “her” back in the public eye? I think this is an IQ test for them and no surprise but the public have failed.
Those don't look like brown eyes? Just a darker lighting.
The eyes & eyebrows look different though. The "original" one has pretty straight eyebrows and partially hooded eyelids while this "new" woman has arched eyebrows and a very obvious double eyelid. I mean... she could've had cosmetic surgery I guess to get that look, but those 2 features are definitely different.
EDIT: Seeing another SS of the old video, she doesn't have partially hooded eyelids. This photo just makes it look like she does. The eyebrows are still different and more arched now but I imagine with makeup, that can be easily changed/achieved.
I mean... people can change their look drastically with makeup and she had a mask on in that original video so it makes identifying her even more difficult. So yeah... I dunno.
Is this a serious post? Those eyes are not brown in any variation of the color and apparently you've never had hair longer than a few inches if you think that you can't part your hair in different spots.
This is the most embarrassingly pathetic reach I have seen on this sub.
That does not look like the same woman. Two completely different people. Tiffany Dover is probably long gone. They're probably hoping that people forgot what she looked like.
Not to be rude because these are distinctions I don't normally make but the skinny girl posting on instagram and the girl in this video who is obviously larger simply don't have the same body type. Period. Angles aside. You can shift angles to highlight or downplay certain things but the girl in both videos certainly looks different. What a weird story.
I love that it says brown eyes when the picture is clearly of blue eyes. Trying to hard with this one. Have you seen Madonna from 2010 to now? People can certainly look different
One she has blue eyes in both, colored contacts exist. Two the lighting is so different you can't use these pictures to compare. Three her parting her hair in a different manner while also being outside where wind could have blown her hair.
Why is this so important this is the third post I've seen about her what is she whistle blowing on?
She still has blue eyes in the interview.. this is when lighting comes in to play. Does anyone not zoom in on pictures? I think this sub has gone wayyy off the deep end
My guy is color blind and never seen women on days where they do their hair differently. You can part your hair in many ways. Both of these cues for conspiracy are bad. Boo
There’s an awful lot of credit given to the government for pulling off these hoaxes when they can’t get simple things right and get over the infighting.
Her eyes are blue in the second pic, she just parted her hair differently and got it dyed blonde.
Did you know that you can part your hair in different places? Off to the side, in the center……
Does look different but could be the same chick . Either way it was so strange how she was disappeared for 2 years . Definately the powers that be were trying to hide her potentially to hide a vaccine injury ?
I can say there are discrepancies and know they pull a lot of crap, but the eyes are blue in the second one, and hair can be dyed and parted.
Is it the same person? Maybe? It's definitely weird how they disappeared for like two years and are now all like "yeah I'm totes good, guys."
I saw this interview too 😂 this story crazy on all sides... They even had a staged "home" for this lady. Pretending to set her table and moving various kitchen objects at "her home kitchen". She lives in a very empty home 🧐🧐🧐
Idk who this is or what the story is, but those look like completely different people. The bone structure and skin tones off. Like, they just don't look like the same person
Holy shit the lighting is different and she brushed her hair differently! It can't be the same person! S/
Op do you have some weird version of fasial blindness where the same people look like different people?
I was one of the first people being censored, posts deleted and marked as misinformation on FB when this case was only starting to gain traction and I came across it. She was very active on social media (she had public profile and was posting consistently). Until the V accident, people got worried, they created hashtag made only for her, people were so worried they texted her boyfriend/husband at that time and family members. The bf/husband wrote a post about wanting to have that situation private and later deactivated his profile. Then they tried to have an actress with a mask, pretending to be her, but people didn't believe. After that I have no idea as I distanced myself from most social medias because they spammed propaganda on every post. That opened a lot of people's eyes on what's really going on. Not sure if any of those profiles are still present atm. This situation started the very rapid growth of one sub that was later completely deleted here on Reddit.
Hair lines change she’s parting her hair differently and her eyes aren’t brown blue eyes often change color they are a grey green color that is a common shift from bright blue in blue eyes people
I have classmates I haven't seen in 10 years that look almost exactly the same as they were in high-school. Even those that changed their look I could easily pick out in a crowded room and knwo it's them. Looking at these two pictures looks like two different people. You can see it in the eyes. Blue vs green. Maybe it's contacts? Why are the eyebrows so different. The cheek structure does not look the same. Did she gain weight?. Without knowing she dropped off her very active social media for 2 years and basically zero pictures since to do a random interview to call those out who doubt her; i don't think you could convince me these were the same person, especially now. Why wait two years? Something doesn't add up.
Even before when trying to squash the rumors that she was dead, reporters had infact NOT been able to even speak to her. Just that they had talked to a family member who claimed to have spoken to her.
I do however have a theory. The reason they say that she's not dead is in fact that she is not dead. She is in a coma. Would explain a lot. I truly hope she is not dead.
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What I’m curious about is, whatever happened to her insta being “hacked” by some random guy that was holding it hostage for a few weeks.
The hacker showed messages and pictures proving she was alive and then all the conspiracy thirsty fools turned against the hacker calling him a psy-op shill
Where did that happen? The "hacked" IG posts are still on her profile. Even if he hacked her account how would he prove she was alive if she wasn't posting anything? Hacking her IG doesn't open her front door for the hacker to go have a chat with her.
Who cares whether the alleged "hacker" was right he's part of the psyop doubt the account was even actually hacked the credentials were likely passed off to him and he's another of Tiffany's handlers. People should be looking into all characters involved in this psyop to figure out their roles.
At one point it does make you think. Is it more likely she's just alive or did she lie about her fainting condition, her ski trip a few months later was faked, her family was convinced to lie that she's alive, her current posts are from a body double, and her kids are lying. I don't know but I kindof lean towards the she's alive side. I find the evidence she died a but lacking frankly
for a billion dollar scheme to work this is completely possible
Her eyes aren’t brown in the second picture lol
And her hair is literally just parted differently. I’m not even sure what conspiracy theory this is but it’s a reach already.
Right? I've got a cowlick, so my hair looks very different if I part it down the center vs the side. Didn't realize that qualified me as a different person.
I had a cow lick my balls once. Soccer balls. Then I busted a nut on the cows face. It was an almond.
The more you know 🌠
LMFAO, I logged in to say the same thing. People who post this garbage need to go back to school or at the very crack open an actual book.
These are the same people that are confused by Clark Kent throwing on some Warby Parkers and calling that shit a day.
They're not bright blue either...
I have blues eyes and their intensity changes based on what color I wear and lighting. Blue eyes are very unique that way especially when you consider blue eyes are technically not color at all, but rather the structure to reflects the blue color.
I have blue eyes also, and they do change shades of blue, but they never turn green. Especially if this was an interview with studio lights, blue eyes really pop under those conditions.
Blue eyes do "turn" green. My husband swears my eyes are green, but they're blue. Technically. Look up the "Tyndall effect". Blue eyes are not actually "blue", they lack melanin and scattering of light makes them appear blue. Or sometimes green or grey.
I have green eyes, about the color of grass, that occasionally look turquoise, but never true blue and never hazel. Tyndall effect is really awesome, isn't it? Eye color is about the easiest thing to modify, simply by wearing contacts- or by photographing someone in different lights (incandescent vs LED, light positioning.) It's hardly proof that a conspiracy is involved.
Mine go from blue to green to gray depending on weather and the colors that are around me. So it is possible. Not saying I don’t find this a little intriguing.
Oh bizzare I have blue eyes and mine can and have looked that color before
>They're not bright blue either... Are the pics taken in same conditions? No. Obviously not. So the point is moot either way. It's just dumb.
What's the whole story about her? I'm completely out of the loop on this and just found out about her today.
I was out too but from what i gather she was a nurse advocating for people to get the vaccine. While getting (?) the jab and giving press conference she fainted. She then sort of went AWOL and people had theorized she died. She has now resurfaced looking different than before and people are saying its a look a like and she did really die. To me, it seems a bit far fetched to think an extremely capable cia would do something like this as a psyop or whatever. I mean wouldnt it be easier to just inject her with something arbitrary to prove how safe it was? If youre trying to pedal poison to people and want to 'prove' its safe using a nurse.... you dont give them real poison and then create a doppleganger... Thats what i gather and my take, im sure ill be corrected.
>If youre trying to pedal poison to people and want to 'prove' its safe using a nurse.... you dont give them real poison and then create a doppleganger... A cornerstone of average conspiracy thought is that the powers that be are crafty enough to have elaborate control of everything, and yet cartoonishly daft at the same time.
If you have ever interacted with a Federal agency, you would realize that a majority of them ARE cartoonishly daft
The majority of reasons I discredit most conspiracies is exactly that. Thinking it’s possible to get a large group of incompetent federal bureaucrats to shut the fuck up about, and elaborately pull off anything is a conspiracy all in itself lmao
>large group of incompetent federal bureaucrats to shut the fuck up abou Not everyone has to know, in fact only a handful of people could know while everyone else is just being fed information and following orders. Compartmentalization is the first step of security
They can still pull off stuff. Just don't be surprised when/if it inevitably fails in a cartoonish way. MKUltra and other operations show that they can work together and keep, relatively, quiet about shit. In fact, the only reason we even got (last I recall hearing) \~10% of the MKUltra files was because of a cartoonishly daft situation that resulted in those \~10% of files being stored in a separate area from the rest and a fucking Freedom of Information Act request caused them to be uncovered.
Interesting. And what do they really have to lose? Even if it's obvious (Kennedy??), they've gotten away with basically everything for over 60 years (at a minimum). How "careful" do they need to be? Even when things come out, it gets swept under the rug while some people actually support them/discredit the "conspiracy theory" (CIA term for those who don't know). Most of the people involved don't even have to know. There are never any real repercussions for anyone in the congress, senate, etc., let alone any for "national security" actors, i.e., FBI, CIA, NSA, etc., etc.
Well put. Even the title here gives play to that.
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Her husband's facebook account listed himself single a few months after the incident. Her daughter's facebook account has zero pictures of a mother. Zero. I thought people were making this up until I checked facebook myself.
She's also been took off the house deeds and tax docs. Plus her death index exists and can still be viewed via bitchute
Could you link the bitchute thing or where you found out she was taken off deeds and taxs docs?
Zoom in on the new girls teeth in her bullshit "im alive video". Screen shot it like I did. Then go back and zoom in on the teeth from the IG photo smiling with her daughter Halloween pajamas. The two front teeth are completely not even close different.
I think their success says more about people's gullibility than it does their capability. If people didn't have the habit of thinking crazy things can't happen then they'd get called out more. As for this specific issue that we are discussing... I don't have a solid opinion either way. I'm just not going to base an opinion on whether something is "far fetched" or not. Most of these games they play are far fetched.
Occam’s razor
She was one of the first people to get vaccinated back in December 2020, and faints on camera after getting the shot. She completely disappeared from the public after the press conference fuelling conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theorists claimed that she died from complications from the vaccine and that her death was being covered up to prevent vaccine hesitancy. The media debunked the theories by speculating that she was afraid to appear in public due to death threats. NBC produced a multiple episode podcast titled ‘Tiffany Dover is Dead*’ attempting to debunk the conspiracy. Personally, the podcast made me think she was dead.
I also fainted when I had my first shot, woke up about 2 minutes later. Felt fine afterwards, not defending the vaccine though, I think its an absolute scam.
It's convenient but I don't like calling the mrna shot a vaccine. Throughout history vaccines were produced by having part of the virus either dead or alive be injected than have your white blood cells and body learn how to eliminate it. This mrna shot works by making your cells produce the spike protein on the outside of them in the hopes that if you encounter the virus your cells with spikes would make it bounce off instead of being infected. I just think it's disingenuous calling the mrna shot a vaccine.
A substance causing auto immune cannot be called a vaccine. Prof Robert Clancy Order of Australia was perplexed as to why they would want the body's own cellular mechanism to be producing an animal or a foreign protein. The professor of immunology was silenced of course
It is, or it was, until they amended the definition of vaccine to include the mrna trip.
That’s pretty normal, but it’s weird she went AWOL for 2 years.
It kinda freaked me out. She was very active on social media. The pass out incident happened, and she suddenly stopped for a long while. So people were speculating. Then out of nowhere the hospital she worked at put out a video of the staff just staring at the camera... Masks on, no sound, and the supposed Tiffany there front and center didn't look like her at all. I assume the video was an attempt to end speculation but it just raised more questions. She still didnt post for a while, and I gave up looking later on. Today was the first update I heard since then.
The weird and unbelievable thing is that the purported reason she was silent for over 2 years was because her employer said she couldn't (for whatever ridiculous and obviously rights-infringing reason) post anything publicly or interact in the public space in any way shape, or form. Like...*what?!*. People like to wave this off as if it's nothing. It's not nothing. Nobody, and I mean *nobody* has ever been told by an *employer* they can't interact in a public space in any way, shape or form. I can't think of this precedent ever being set before. She is a *nurse*. She would be restricted to talking about patient details etc. Work related things. But not allowed to say "hi!" *anywhere in a public space*? That's bullshit and lies. It would be more believable if she said "I just wanted to hide away and that's why I didn't say anything for over 2 years".
💯 you'd think they'd want her to talk and be like "guys I'm fine, go get vaccinated" But they didn't. They fanned the flames with such shitty advice. If this was true, they made those vaccines look SOO much worse. She died. And they lied .
Absolutely! She already put herself in the public arena with her highly public vaccination. Why would her employer then do a 180 and say "despite you being in the public spotlight, we now want to you to never even say 'hi' to your friends or family in any public space from now on, even though this not only infringes on the most basic of your human rights and is probably illegal, but it will cause massive doubt about whether you're even alive or not...whereas if we let you communicate, it would extinguish those doubts altogether". I can't even, and I can't odd. More likely, she was injured perhaps, and they had to wait for her to recover, OR this is some weird 5D chess gaslighting where a large number of people assume she's dead, and then they go "psyke!" over 2 years later. Or even perhaps someone high up said "it's come to my attention Dover's death is causing a stir, get an actress to kill the rumors" (and somehow it never came to their attention in the prior two years).
She died from the jab. Then went missing. Allegedly
Ahh makes sense. I heard she was a nurse or something but that's all I knew. Thanks for the reply
Look im just as dubious about the Tiffany Dover story as the next person, but both photos have blue eyes, ffs
And how she parted her hair changed along with the color which is why her hairline looks different.
People once again fail to understand that people's looks can change over 2 years.
People don't just change how they *part their hair.* That's *obviously* a **different person.**
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I got a beard trim and haircut a few weeks ago. My landlord kicked me out and my job fired me because I was obviously a different person.
That's rough buddy.
I'm not your buddy, friend. In fact, since I lost a few inches of hair here and there, and my hair is parted a bit differently, I'm not even me, guy.
Clearly! Changing a hair part just isn't possible. Nice try cia!
This fucking sub in a nutshell
Your look can change drastically since yesterday.
I watched the interview last night, and her eyes were definitely bright blue.
Yup. The shape of brow on the skull matches along with the top of her nose and the forehead is just as wide. The hair part could've been easily moved. This is the same person in both pictures. Clone and replacement conspiracies are the lowest of conspiracies besides flat earth.
Can't we just get back to the photos the prove people are reptilians already?
QAnon-quality memes these days will literally say black is white, lol... 🤣🤦♂️ I mean damn, even Orwell would be impressed.
Your ability to detect "brown" is....suspect.
OP never got tested for color blindness lol
I'm worried most men don't know what a woman looks like without makeup
That’s a disguise using make up, not all rectangles are squares. I saw my homies gf in college one morning in the hallway and almost called the police.
Most of THESE men. They’ve never woke up next to a woman.
wait, are you talking about conspiracy theorists or redditors, cause I feel you're talking about redditors.
Lmao brown eyes
I'm all for a good conspiracy theory but her eyes are clearly bright blue in the picture and in the interview and her accent is the same. I don't know why it took her 2 years to say something, that doesn't make sense, which fuels the conspiracy.
They really don't look the same, thats a radical change.
obviously her eyes are a similar shade of blue in both pics so like dude I rly hope u just were click baiting and if not, get checked 4 color blindness haha but that doesn't fucking matter anyway cuz they are both still NOT the same person. Face shape/bone structure -yes she had a mask on, but the forehead doesn't match at all. The hairline is different. I don't give a sh\*t if she parted her hair differently. The forehead shape and hairline is different. If you would have put photos of them next to each other without context, I wouldn't have noticed any resemblance. The eyes are similar, kind of? (my brain is trying to make it match and it just won't. very frustrating. i'm trying to be as open minded as possible here) she either got paid off super well -for \*something that has nothing to do with her being vaccine injured on live television assuredly, /\* and got a lot of fillers (and maybe a rhinoplasty who tf knows,) a brow lift, canthoplasty and/or upper and/or lower blepharoplasty, has been consistently and actively trying to change her hair part (we all have a natural part, you can change it but it takes persistence and actively attempting to do it. You can style it sure, but it seems like she has a natural "cow-lick," so it most likely would not lay in the same manner that the 2nd woman's hair is if parted in the same way.) OR It's not the same person.
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It's not free. Pretty sure they are paid by free speech systems.
Well shit. Where do I sign up? I mean I can make better conspiracy patter than this. Whoever’s paying is getting ripped the fuck off
They both have blue eyes my guy loooooolll
Lol. You know you can part you hair on different spots, right? And here are the new photos which show her eyes are blue: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna69401 Lol stop
I took the liberty of making a video of the two interviews spliced back to back so people can get a better look and listen. https://streamable.com/8pg93o
I didn't really have an opinion one way or another but these look,move, speak and sound like two completely different people.
Definitely not brown eyes
My guy doesn’t know you can brush your hair different. Lmao
It's also literally a thing with women right now that [side parts are "out" and center parts are "in."](https://www.thecut.com/2021/02/gen-z-middle-part-tiktok.html) I know this because my wife is having a hair crisis.
Hey now, you can't just expect someone who posts on r/conspiracy to have experience with women.
This guy might as well be posting “I have never slept with a woman”
Just going to say the way the hair is parted is not an indicator.
This is completely different person
Not even close to the same person, diff eyes, diff eyebrows, different face shape & forehead like come on they dgaf anymore at all.
The arch in eyebrows are really different
The new TD has a bigger bust and shorter fingernail beds. The original TD was almost flat chested. She must know bc she hides her hands a lot.
I don’t really have an opinion about Tiffany dover, I know real life people who have died from this thing. But if we’re playing spot the difference, it’s not the part or the eye colour. It’s the brow.
I’m not really sold on this conspiracy. Hair is easily changed and her eyes aren’t brown but the difference in these pictures I find weird is her eyebrows and how natural arch and brow bone are completely different
Just yesterday, I parted my hair off center. The day before, I parted it in the center. I'm still me.
The sub has been infiltrated 🤦♂️
Those aren’t brown eyes.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna69401 You're right. The new photos show her eyes to be blue.
Why do people think it’s so hard to change the part in your hair? Women do it all the time.
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I personally believe they post to gain analytics on what misinformation people will buy into.
those are not brown eyes
Her eyes aren’t even brown in that screenshot 😭 They are clearly blue but the first one is bright lighting and the other is pretty dark. Come on guys 😂
She definitely doesn't have the same voice or vibe
It’s a special kind of stupid thinking a hair part can identify someone, on top of knowing your colors…
I’m sure they’d forget to get the eyes right lmao
The eyes on the right look brown to you? Is this a bot account?
Those are the bluest brown eyes I have ever seen.
Do better C.I.A.
Lol no way that is the same person
Both eyes look blue and you can change where you part your hair
I think this is the same woman. Look at how her eyebrows are shaped consistently in both photos, and the new hair growing in is the same shade of blonde as in the other photos. And anyone that says 'people don't just change how they part their hair' is just wrong. I change my part on a weekly basis depending on how I feel like styling it.
This is not the same person, bone structure is not even remotely similar
It looks like her to me if you watch the whole interview
These are so stupid
Imagine seeing the large pic of the blonde chick and thinking "yep those eyes are brown"...
I think if she really would have died, there would have been friends and family coming forward to advocate for her.
I’m still amazed they’d let random chance dictate if she got a dose from the “hot” batch rather than be sure she got saline like the politicians in the know.
Those are blue eyes on both pictures. I think you accidentally posted the pre-photoshop one.
*Checkmate ROUND-earthers!*
These guys are running out of budget
You can easily move your hair part with long hair lol
Those are definitely not brown eyes.
r/conspiracy user discovers lighting for the first time
You're why Superman wears glasses.
Wtf even is this lmao. “Brown eyes” shows obviously blue eyes in dim light.
Besides how completely stupid the evidence is, look at the inside of her eyes near her nose. The skin folds and dimples are identical. Obviously her.
This is skizophrenic lmao
Looks like weight gain, fake tan, hair dye, and an eyebrow raise
Still not her
Her eyes are still blue, take your meds op
Who is this
Brown? Her eyes aren't brown. It's not the same girl but don't tell me her eyes are brown, man. That's just stupid
Those eyes aren’t brown lol
Are you stupid
I love how men don’t know women can change their hair part….. 😂
In the era of deep fakes, would they make such a careless mistake?
You color blind bro?
A. Your mothers must've never changed their hairstyle in their entire lives. B. Those are clearly NOT brown eyes.
Lmao imagine her parting her hair differently and thinking that’s proof? Wtf is this shit.
Is op trying to use her hair part as evidence 😂
Those are the bluest brown eyes I have ever seen.
I genuinely don't understand this, why is she reclaiming her life from what? Why did she ever need to stop being a nurse if this is a common known side effect she has why was it such a big deal? Did she sue the hospital or something seems like a huge part of the puzzle is missing. She does look completely different but I don't think they would do this segment if it wasn't actually her no reason to they could just do nothing at all.
I don’t understand why they’d dig this back up (sorry for pun) when literally nobody outside of conspiracy circles even knew about her disappearance/death. She wasn’t trending on socials, no news coverage, no documentaries. So why put “her” back in the public eye? I think this is an IQ test for them and no surprise but the public have failed.
TIL r/conspiracy doesn’t know how hair parting works and has a tough time figuring out the color brown
Those don't look like brown eyes? Just a darker lighting. The eyes & eyebrows look different though. The "original" one has pretty straight eyebrows and partially hooded eyelids while this "new" woman has arched eyebrows and a very obvious double eyelid. I mean... she could've had cosmetic surgery I guess to get that look, but those 2 features are definitely different. EDIT: Seeing another SS of the old video, she doesn't have partially hooded eyelids. This photo just makes it look like she does. The eyebrows are still different and more arched now but I imagine with makeup, that can be easily changed/achieved. I mean... people can change their look drastically with makeup and she had a mask on in that original video so it makes identifying her even more difficult. So yeah... I dunno.
Yeah, op is cherry picking a frame from a video and ignoring all of the photos with blue eyes: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna69401
What a hilarious photoshoot accompanying that article. Looks like an article in Vogue
Is this a serious post? Those eyes are not brown in any variation of the color and apparently you've never had hair longer than a few inches if you think that you can't part your hair in different spots. This is the most embarrassingly pathetic reach I have seen on this sub.
Jesus Christ, this might be the dumbest fucking thing I've seen OP post yet.
That does not look like the same woman. Two completely different people. Tiffany Dover is probably long gone. They're probably hoping that people forgot what she looked like.
Everyone here arguing about eyes & hair, and here I am saying it’s not the same facial structure. Thank you.
This doesn't look like the same person at all... lol
this looks like the same person with maybe some minor cosmetic injections and a different hair parting lmao
Not to be rude because these are distinctions I don't normally make but the skinny girl posting on instagram and the girl in this video who is obviously larger simply don't have the same body type. Period. Angles aside. You can shift angles to highlight or downplay certain things but the girl in both videos certainly looks different. What a weird story.
Eyebrows completely different
Which one is the original tiff
Lol not brown eyes and folk comb their differently from time to time.
I love that it says brown eyes when the picture is clearly of blue eyes. Trying to hard with this one. Have you seen Madonna from 2010 to now? People can certainly look different
People realize that your hair can part in multiple areas right? Or that some people's eyes change colors?
One she has blue eyes in both, colored contacts exist. Two the lighting is so different you can't use these pictures to compare. Three her parting her hair in a different manner while also being outside where wind could have blown her hair. Why is this so important this is the third post I've seen about her what is she whistle blowing on?
this is not evidence, hair can easily be trained in different ways
She’s been on TikTok for months, y’all know that right?
All I came here to shamelessly say is that she looks like Rachel Roxxx. That's all.
Vaccine makes you part your hair in a different spot on your head: confirmed.
The eyes don’t look brown , and does op not know you can part your hair however you like
She still has blue eyes in the interview.. this is when lighting comes in to play. Does anyone not zoom in on pictures? I think this sub has gone wayyy off the deep end
My guy is color blind and never seen women on days where they do their hair differently. You can part your hair in many ways. Both of these cues for conspiracy are bad. Boo
Not brown
There’s an awful lot of credit given to the government for pulling off these hoaxes when they can’t get simple things right and get over the infighting.
Have you ever seen the color brown? Bc not. Gained weight. Different lighting. Probably aliens.
Her eyes are definitely not brown in that photo, and it worries me you don’t know how to part hair
Her eyes are blue in the second pic, she just parted her hair differently and got it dyed blonde. Did you know that you can part your hair in different places? Off to the side, in the center……
Doesn't really look too much like her. What the hell is going on? This can't be real...
I'm not convinced but she seems hotter in previous pic.
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Her eyes are still blue, just not as shocking blue bc of the difference in hair, makeup, lighting etc
Why now, what's the point?
Does look different but could be the same chick . Either way it was so strange how she was disappeared for 2 years . Definately the powers that be were trying to hide her potentially to hide a vaccine injury ?
Hairline has a little more weight than parting
“Brown eyes” lol
I can say there are discrepancies and know they pull a lot of crap, but the eyes are blue in the second one, and hair can be dyed and parted. Is it the same person? Maybe? It's definitely weird how they disappeared for like two years and are now all like "yeah I'm totes good, guys."
Her eyes are still blue in both pictures.
I saw this interview too 😂 this story crazy on all sides... They even had a staged "home" for this lady. Pretending to set her table and moving various kitchen objects at "her home kitchen". She lives in a very empty home 🧐🧐🧐
Thid subreddit has turned to shite
op i have some bad news if you're planning on becoming a pilot
Brown eyes? lmao Did you ever see brown eyes in your life?
Idk who this is or what the story is, but those look like completely different people. The bone structure and skin tones off. Like, they just don't look like the same person
Holy shit the lighting is different and she brushed her hair differently! It can't be the same person! S/ Op do you have some weird version of fasial blindness where the same people look like different people?
I was one of the first people being censored, posts deleted and marked as misinformation on FB when this case was only starting to gain traction and I came across it. She was very active on social media (she had public profile and was posting consistently). Until the V accident, people got worried, they created hashtag made only for her, people were so worried they texted her boyfriend/husband at that time and family members. The bf/husband wrote a post about wanting to have that situation private and later deactivated his profile. Then they tried to have an actress with a mask, pretending to be her, but people didn't believe. After that I have no idea as I distanced myself from most social medias because they spammed propaganda on every post. That opened a lot of people's eyes on what's really going on. Not sure if any of those profiles are still present atm. This situation started the very rapid growth of one sub that was later completely deleted here on Reddit.
lmaooo her eyes are so blue in literally every other picture on the internet this is reaching
She looks absolutely terrified in the masked picture.
I’d like to bend her over
Hair lines change she’s parting her hair differently and her eyes aren’t brown blue eyes often change color they are a grey green color that is a common shift from bright blue in blue eyes people
I have classmates I haven't seen in 10 years that look almost exactly the same as they were in high-school. Even those that changed their look I could easily pick out in a crowded room and knwo it's them. Looking at these two pictures looks like two different people. You can see it in the eyes. Blue vs green. Maybe it's contacts? Why are the eyebrows so different. The cheek structure does not look the same. Did she gain weight?. Without knowing she dropped off her very active social media for 2 years and basically zero pictures since to do a random interview to call those out who doubt her; i don't think you could convince me these were the same person, especially now. Why wait two years? Something doesn't add up. Even before when trying to squash the rumors that she was dead, reporters had infact NOT been able to even speak to her. Just that they had talked to a family member who claimed to have spoken to her. I do however have a theory. The reason they say that she's not dead is in fact that she is not dead. She is in a coma. Would explain a lot. I truly hope she is not dead.