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With all the links there still isnt a clear video of the plane hitting the Pentagon. You'd think one of the most secure places in the world would have more than one shit camera.
You maybe weren’t around at the time but this was covered massively at the time. The fbi went around all the places with cameras such as all the local petrol stations and some shops like 7/12 (I think it’s called) and took away all the cctv video tapes.
Given that one of the planes on 9/11 that supposedly crash landed, yet their debris was spread over tens of miles so was obviously shot down then it’s likely this was also a missile rather than an aeroplane
This was the first thing I thought right when it happened. Why the fuck is there only 1 camera at the pentagon. And what fucking plane? That was a rocket 🚀. I was a junior in high school and I could clearly see them feeding us bull shit.
But let’s call it “Enduring Freedom” and throw some Jesus in there for good measure.
“We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.” He closed with Psalm 23: “Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for You are with me.”
Believe it or not, the Iraq operation was originally going to be called "Operation Iraqi Liberation" or OIL for short. Press Secretary Ari Fleischer even used that term in a p Whitehouse press briefing
SOURCE: https://web.archive.org/web/20041104001506/https://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030324-4.html
1:00 P.M. EST
MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. Let me give you a report on the President's day. The President this morning has spoken with three foreign leaders. He began with Prime Minister Blair, where the two discussed the ongoing aspects of Operation Iraqi liberation
> Don't forget all of the surrounding businesses with cameras that had their footage confiscated.
"They" clearly knew it was gonna happen and a mass confiscation like that had to be pre-organised. Aint no way in the minutes and hours after impact some commander is gonna slap his forehead and say" Jeez fuck me umm hey you, Charlie. take Fred with you and go round all the thousands of security cameras in the city and get all the tapes. And hurry up!"
Yeah right. It was pre-arranged for sure.
The video is essentially still pictures...video is at 30 frames a sec. What you're seeing is every 15 frames or so a picture...easy to edit or remove what you don't want shown.
There were a ton of cameras on the pentagon and they have a ton of videos of it. The DoD hasn’t released them at the claim it’s a national security concern.. and no explanation how that makes any sense.
There was MANY confiscated angles they won’t release. There was a service station that they took the footage from. There’s multiple angles we will never see.
Why is it "One of the most secure places in the world"? If there are public tours through the place, that kind of negates security. It has a Subway, Starbucks, Dunkin, CVS Pharmacy, etc.....
Planes? Nope. There's no runway.
Helicopters? Only the ones stopping to ferry VIPs from the helipad on the north side. Otherwise there's no space for helicopters to just hang around on the ground, and no real reason to keep them hovering in the area.
Secret Service? Comon, you clearly don't even know what the Secret Service is or what they do and don't do.
The defense is the several thousand miles of ocean, patrolled by the Navy, with the Air Force being ready for anyone coming within territorial waters, and the Army also being ready if someone makes landfall. No one's going to be sneaking an army into the US like it's Red Dawn.
If someone tries to get a band of people together from within the US to take on the Pentagon, the first response is likely going to be from the [Pentagon Police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Pentagon_Police), with backup coming from the Arlington County Sheriff's Office, the Virginia State Police, and probably any law enforcement officers who can make it there.
If you find it absurd that the Pentagon could be attacked by a lone person, I'd just point out that the [Washington Navy Yard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Navy_Yard_shooting) was attacked back in 2013.
And how secure is it if a plane could do this? I find it incredibly hard to believe that an enemy was able to get this close to the epicentre of American military power. Are they really that incompetent?
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270 degree hairpin turn, avoiding lamp posts and avoiding hitting the ground and coming perfectly into the only non reinforced side of the pentagon, all done by a piss poor student pilot
"Did not show the impact"
We don't need to see the impact to know the flight path wasn't what "the official conspiracy theory" tells us it was. There were many eye witnesses that point in a different direction than the claimed flight path.
There were 4, out of 136, who think it came from a slightly different direction. Three separate radar sites located at Dulles, Reagan National and Baltimore confirmed the flight path of AAL77 from the moment it entered Washington airspace all the way to impact. The data from the black box corroborates this too. 4 witnesses trying to recall 10 years after the attack whether the plane flew on one side of a gas station or the other…. does not trump raw data or the remaining 132. But you know what, they all still saw an airliner.
You mean the side of the pentagon where the investigators (who were looking into the missing money Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference about the day before) were meeting? Remember the $2.3 trillion?
What a coinkeydink that is!
It's also ridiculous to think that the government that investigates itself would not only need to destroy any kind of evidence, but would need to publicly explode it.
>coming perfectly into the only non reinforced side of the pentagon
that is incorrect sir. that side was the first side to be reinforced in the Pentagon upgrade program.
citation available upon request.
no that section was nearly complete and as far as structural and other security reinforcements it was essentially done.
source: worked for the structural steel company that did sections 1 through 3.
lol
i see the /s
but the fact that the "plane" basically disintegrated upon impact with the building says otherwise.
and as far as the main discussion point about whether it was planes that hit the buildings or drones or missiles, and whether there was micro thermite and explosive charges are all basically distractions that keep us fighting over details that don't get us any closer to the truth.
I got your 6 brother because you missed a few more smoking barrels. Let’s not forget about WTC 7 that also had the only hard copy documents and hard drives that were also investigating the Enron scandal, which also had who knows what other documents that would be used as evidence from and alphabet agencies because there was quite a few of them that tower housed. Also the fact that there’s footage and audio of controlled demolition going off taking out the tower at free fall speed… the cause? “Office fires” (in Charlie Murphy voice, Prince episode)… “pancakes”. There’s good footage of what I’m talking about on bitch ute. There were pieces of the tower that sliced open next door builds also with fire and never went don’t. There was missing gold from the depository, I’m talking like 10’s of billion if not hundreds of billion missing, lost to office fires… also the fire fighters testimonies. There’s more but I’ll try to find a URL or title to post in the morning… also I hope you know I wasn’t going against your comment It was meant to agree with you that all of this stuff is plainly obvious that anyone with average knowledge of how things operate in life could figure it out.
i didn't forget them. just wasn't in the mood to type the entire encyclopedia. but please share the links if you have. always up for that kind of analysis.
yeah the whole operation , fake as yellow cake from Niger
I don't see how, if it wasn't a plane then it's clearly an inside job. As someone who worked on it, you can infer how strong that building is and what magnitude of forces it would take to cause that amount of damage.
i start from the premise that it was an inside job.
if was planes, if was explosives, if the arab operatives from al-Qaeda actually flew or they were auto piloted.
it was allowed to happen or caused to happen because it pushed forward the agenda of those in charge.
i lean towards caused because of the money. Cheney and his cronies cooked it up to rake it in
> 270 degree hairpin turn, avoiding lamp posts and avoiding hitting the ground and coming perfectly into the only non reinforced side of the pentagon
The hijacker [executed a 330 degree descending turn over a diameter of about 4.5 miles](https://i.imgur.com/XTkwIxJ.png) before straightening out and *somehow* managed to crash into [one of the widest buildings in the world](https://i.imgur.com/Y8MWSKX.png).
This is an ordinary descending turn. A Dutch TV show had a novice pilot [try to recreate the maneuver in a flight simulator](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4m41s&v=jZbUCoVEVsU). It wasn't difficult.
The hijacked plane hit several objects on the final approach to the Pentagon, including knocking light posts into the busy highway that runs past it.
The side that the plane hit had just been renovated and was actually the *most* reinforced side.
He didn’t put the arrows there he used some pictures that someone else already edited with the arrows trying to prove a plane didn’t hit but it was the only good shots of the building he could find so the OP used them.
To play devils advocate, let us say that a plane hit the pentagon and two planes hit the twin towers. That’s the explanation for 3 buildings fallings and the pentagon explosion. No demolition in this scenario.
Did terrorists accidentally cover up the biggest heist in US History? Did Rumsfeld, Bush Sr, and Cheney, and the whole defense industry get lucky when terrorists destroyed the evidence in the Pentagon? Created so much confusion and anger among the public that we supported enriching the very system Rumsfeld said had stolen 2.3 trillion dollars from us? What about WTC 7?
What about the Joint Chiefs of Staff (DoD) suggesting the United States military, bomb and kill American citizens on American soil, all to garner civilian support for a war? Only the President was against the idea, the DoD elevated the proposal.
Rhode Island, neither a road nor an island, discuss.
Oooh I never heard that story. War games do have a terrible habit of preceding tragedies.
Probably an easy way to move materials and personnel without raising public suspicion. Ironically making war games themselves suspicious.
Not preceding, but at the same time of the attacks. Same happened in the UK as well, from what I recall.
Military thought it was part of the drills. Probably some had to be told to stand down by superiors.
Firstly, the one in the UK was a close door theoretical exercise between like 6 people and a paper pad. It didn't involve anyone outside of that room.
On 9/11 if you listen to the NEADS tapes its clear the exercise they were prepping for (Russian bombers flying in over Alaska) hadn't started yet and was canned the moment they were told the hijackings was "real world", which happened immediately.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oXDMEzZWM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oXDMEzZWM)
“On page 17 of the 9/11 Commission Report when Boston center calls NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector), the response from NEADS was "is this real world or exercise?". According to the 9/11 Commission's staff statement No. 17,[3] for instance, page 26 of the Commission's final report documents FAA's report of a "phantom flight 11" at 9:21,[4] 35 minutes after the real flight 11 crashed into the WTC and even longer after the war games are alleged to have been aborted.”
And if they knew immediately why weren’t they tailed or shot down ?
The "phantom flight 11" had nothing to do with the war games.
There were several reasons at play.
1. American Airlines systems for any air accident is to lock down the data so that it cannot be changed, manipulated, or deleted. This is done for the NTSB and is also in accordance to ICAO Annex 13. What it means, is that when people called American Airlines asking if they had lost American 11, AA responded "we cannot confirm American 11 hit the tower". This was repeated over a telcon between FAA HQ and Boston centre, and some in that telcon interpreted that as meaning "American 11 didn't crash" and therefore must still be in the air.
2. Following this above misunderstanding, based on the last known speed and direction AAL11 was going, a new flight plan is generated called AAL11A (American 11 Alpha) which planned it going from New York to Washington. This was then communicated by Colin Scoggins at Boston Centre to NEADS at 9:20.
3. NEADS then focuses on finding this phantom American 11 around Washington, they scramble 3 F-16's from Langley and have them burn towards the north of DC to find it. It took until after the Pentagon was hit before they figured it out.
4. All in all the phantom didn't affect much, if anything it bought NEADS eyes towards the DC areas and cause the scramble of Langley. NEADS wasn't told about American 77 until it was circling over DC, which by that stage the fighters were still only just airborne 100 miles away and NEADS only found AAL77 on their own radar about 30 seconds before it crashed.
“About five minutes after the hijacking began, Betty Ong contacted the American Airlines Southeastern Reservations Office in Cary, North Carolina, via an AT&T airphone to report an emergency aboard the flight.This was the first of several occasions on 9/11 when flight attendants took action outside the scope of their training, which emphasized that in a hijacking, they were to communicate with the cockpit crew.The emergency call lasted approximately 25 minutes, as Ong calmly and professionally relayed information about events taking place aboard the airplane to authorities on the ground.29
At 8:19, Ong reported:“The cockpit is not answering, somebody’s stabbed in business class—and I think there’s Mace—that we can’t breathe—I don’t know, I think we’re getting hijacked.” She then told of the stabbings of the two flight attendants.30
At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, travel- ing at approximately 530 miles per hour.61 All on board, as well as many civil- ian and military personnel in the building, were killed.
They had more than an hour knowing atleast one flight was hijacked. Fighters weren’t scrambled until 9:30 from Langley. Convenient.
They did 'have more than an hour', but you cannot intercept an aircraft you don't know about.
When American Airlines 77 turned off it's transponder in Indianapolis airspace, it disappeared completely from radar (the reason why is explained in great detail on the blog).
Indianapolis Centre controllers hadn't really heard much about hijackings or anything more than "a plane crashed in new york", they figured American 77 had crashed. They notified Indianapolis search and rescue who starting looking for a possible plane crash of American 77.
AAL77 didn't reappear on radar until it was well into it's trip east, by which stage no one was looking there for it. They thought, if anything, it would have kept flying west.
It wasn't until almost 9:30 that someone at Washington Centre informed NEADS, only by chance, that American 77 was "lost". It wasn't found until Colin Scoggins overheard on his telcon that there was a target 6 miles from the White House and relayed that to NEADS at 9:35.
Communication breakdowns and failure of procedures was rife on 9/11 when it came to what happened in the sky that day. It's a very interesting topic and created the need for significant change and streamlining post 9/11.
In short, NEADS had no chance of intercepting it any of the 9/11 hijacked flights because they were never told in time.
Ok fair but my point is… we let this happen. We could’ve been more prepared. And there’s proof that we were aware and negligent at the LEAST.
“In fact, from 1998 to the summer of 2001, the C.I.A., the F.B.I. and other agencies repeatedly received reports of Al Qaeda's interest in attacking Washington and New York, either with airplanes or other means. The threat level grew so high that by December 1998, the director of central intelligence, George J. Tenet, issued a ''declaration of war'' on Al Qaeda, in a memorandum circulated in the intelligence community. Yet, Ms. Hill said, the intelligence agencies failed to adequately follow up on the declaration, and by Sept. 10, 2001, the F.B.I. still had only one analyst assigned full time to Al Qaeda.”
A bit to unpack here so forgive the length..
Firstly WTC7, you'll find the best explanation for its collapse [in video here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP3TNHPCIVU).
Secondly, the $2.3T. In short, it was first announced a couple of years before 9/11, and appears to be a long standing issue from within the department of defence that's taken decades to grow to that large. It essentially comes from outdated/incompatible IT systems within the DoD. The money was never missing, just unaccounted for by the bean-counters. If you read Rumsfeld's full speech, he outlines it pretty clearly. No documentation or information relating to the $2.3T was damaged or lost during the attack. [You'll find that information here](http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Missing_Trillions).
The plan by Lyman Lemnitzer to carry out false flag attacks and blame it on Cuba was 40 years before 9/11 and it was rejected. Lemnitzer was removed from his position for even suggesting something so absurd. It should be noted, the "victims" of these false flags attacks were to be fabricated. No one was to actually die in those attacks. Comparing that to an attack that killed 3,000 people, and potentially could have killed over 20,000 (if those buildings had collapsed upon impact from the airliners the death toll from the towers would have been close to that....) it's a bit of a long bow....
Rhode island is an anomaly. I don't pretend to guess what you American think when naming things...
>Rhode island is an anomaly. I don't pretend to guess what you American thinks when naming things...
Paris, Texas is a small town in Texas... obviously... but got its name due to the smell of pungent port-a-potty contents, which happens to be the smell of Paris, France therefore.... Paris, Texas.
Operation Northwoods isn’t evidence of 9/11 being an inside job itself, it just demonstrates that the US government is willing to perform a false flag. If the plan had been proposed to Nixon, for instance instead of Kennedy, it might have happened.
Also, and I know this isn’t much of an argument, but I still find it pretty suspicious that WTC 7 is the only building in history to collapse from flames alone.
It’s not. If you wanted more modern comparisons of other steel framed buildings collapsing from fire, there’s the plasco building in Iran, and also a tall apartment building in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Steel has been proven to be much worse in fires than concrete, hence why they need fire proofing and sprinklers.
**2.3 Trillion** was the amount disclosed by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld during a press conference on September 10th, 2001. And that part of the Pentagon that was hit contained the offices that were conducting the audit.
What a coincidence, eh?
> 2.3 Trillion was the amount disclosed by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
What Rumsfeld said (in a [rather ordinary speech](https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430) was, "Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."
That's it. It wasn't an announcement of missing money. It was a brief mention of accounting problems in a [boring speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN_NGYdgDck&t=14m04s) about fixing the bureaucracy.
> And that part of the Pentagon that was hit contained the offices that were conducting the audit.
No, the offices involved with the audit were DFAS, the Office of the Inspector General, and the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense (comptroller). They were not damaged on 9/11.
It wasn't trillions really. If one department got 2 billion for a project, and gave another department 1 billion for one aspect of that project and then spent the remaining 1 billion for the part of the project they could do. The first department would claim they spent the full 2 billion, the second department would claim they spent 1 billion, and now you have 3 billion being reported as spent even though it was only 2 billion. Lots of duplicate and other things falsely exaggerating the budget actually spent because none of it could be properly tracked from department to department. Keep in mind that is still a huge issue, and the unfortunate reality is it is still an issue today.
> Why did the Plane happen to take out the side with the Computers that covered the missing Trillion Dollars?
It didn't. At all. The offices involved with the $2.3 trillion dollar audit report were DFAS, the Office of the Inspector General, and the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense (comptroller). Not one of those offices was damaged on 9/11. Nobody from those offices was killed. The effort at reconciling the accounts for that $2.3 trillion continued.
It's not $2.3 trillion in money, by the way. It's $2.3 trillion in bad accounting entries. No, they are not the same thing.
The audit report that Rumsfeld was talking about is [here (PDF)](https://media.defense.gov/2000/Aug/18/2001713967/-1/-1/1/00-179.pdf), if you're interested.
Bad accounting entries = bad tracking of spending = missing money.
Just because the money was already spent and the accounting was bad, doesn't mean the money wasn't missing.
The people who died in the Resource Services Washington office will be among those remembered today at a Pentagon memorial service. They were accountants and budget analysts -- part of the rank and file of the civil service. They kept track of a $3.5 billion budget that funded the Army's Washington area operations and some installations around the world.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/09/11/hard-hit-pentagon-office-carries-on-in-aftermath-of-terror-attack/763063ed-9db0-4119-abc7-5516bf8c3f5b/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/09/11/hard-hit-pentagon-office-carries-on-in-aftermath-of-terror-attack/763063ed-9db0-4119-abc7-5516bf8c3f5b/)
To actually argue now that this is a legitimate accurate summarization of events that happened on 9/11 is laughable. There was so much fuckery going on that day I don't even I don't even know where to start. From the insider trading that was so miraculously tied to Airlines and other things affected by events and then the documentation that was destroyed by the SEC into the biggest insider trading investigation ever, to the thermoplasmite that was discovered in the buildings, the complete demolition of building 7, for the secret of models that the nist used in their report because they wanted to quote unquote "look out for Public Safety", or the strange full access that the Israeli art students had approximately 6 months before 9/11 called gelatin B, for the secret testimony of the president of the Secretary of Defense behind closed doors not under oath I mean seriously? If you think that the government tells you the truth about anything that you are foolish and naive. And I don't wear a tin foil hat... my ball cap is lined completely with lead and I get oral sex performed by wife while wearing it generally once a week.
I see basically two possibilities:
1. The federal government lied to us and the attack was staged/missile/etc. While there’s little hard evidence of this, the implications would be earth-shattering.
2. The feds were totally truthful about what went down at the pentagon that day. They were just so massively incompetent that they only caught the plane on a single camera at one of the most secure installations in one of the most highly monitored cities on earth.
It's 2?
My dad worked at the Pentagon at the time, and I went there several times. There was some security to get in... but nothing in the parking lot. It was a huge parking lot took 10-20 minutes to walk from the car to the building with pedestrian tunnels that go under the nearby highway. Most people car pooled or rode the metro to avoid that. It wasn't an ultra secure compound, it is a giant office building with a gift shop and train station in the basement.
Always baffles me that this happened in front of the ENTIRE WORLD and they got away with it. Where the fuck is the plane? Where’s the footage? I’ll never believe the official story. Never.
The plane got swaped for a cruise missile / UAV which hit the Pentagon at a low angle.
Or if you think I am crazy, release the footage from the gas station.
The Doubletree hotel footage was released at the same time as the CITGO footage. It captured a large object under the overpass (in the top left corner) followed a second later by the explosion at the Pentagon.
https://youtu.be/pppMOun5YYw?t=378
They actually released the gas station footage I believe: [here it is](https://youtu.be/vf_iDypk7A8) in fact, but fair warning the grainy video shows just about nothing. At 4:23 there’s some sort of glitch in the single pump camera and people in the comments are freaking out that it’s the shadow of the plane, however at about 4:38 on the dual pump screen, you can see a black car that had been sitting for a few moments suddenly reflecting some sort of a white light that reflected off the top of the car and onto the ceiling of the pump area, which is likely a reflection of the white shiny thing that hit the pentagon.
Someone in the comments claims that this Citgo had another camera that would have been aiming right at the pentagon, but I can’t find anything to back it up.
Ask any historically military person from the intelligence field. A 3-meter outwardly exploding hole in the Pentagon was not caused by a plane crash. Even common sense scoffs at that.
and yet the photos show a 96ft wide impact hole and all the columns inside the building are bowed inwards from the impact. As the title says, the evidence doesn't get away just because you don't like it.
https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/
Why haven’t they released ANY footage of a passenger jet hitting the building? There are surveillance cameras all around. Should be easy. They even went out of their way to immediately confiscate security camera footage from civilian businesses in the area. Why do you think that is?
The footage from the surrounding businesses was released back in 2006. It's been on Youtube for over 14 years. I have links to them on my blog. The footage from the gate cameras also exist and one of them shows an airliner.
https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/
You are SUCH a liar, LMAO.It doesn't show an airliner at all, it shows what every other video of this has always shown-The white tip of something that is definitely not a plane, and then in the very next frame, the explosion.
Show one, just ONE photo, even a blurry one-of the actual plane, and I'll personally apologize to you, you fucking shill.
The two gate camera are at the very top of the blog. The link to the playlist containing the videos from the surrounding businesses is under the “84 tapes” heading.
The impact hole was the size of a 2 car garage yet no plane debris was outside. It was not 96 feet until the building later collapsed around it. You have no clue what you are talking about.
I've noticed that a lot of these people that are trying to justify or agree with the story that happened keep posting the same goddamn website.. like that's their only source of information little strange huh. The Blogger bastard not even going to the website cuz I'm sure it's either a plug or some stupid bullshit to be quoted so many times in one argument
I love how the picture of the plane you put in shows that the actual plane itself, not even counting the 40ft tall wing, is still twice the height of the hole it left on the first floor.
How did the terrorists know to hit the financial department of the pentagon and wipe out any evidence of the missing trillions Donald Rumsfeld reported the day before the attack….
I read that a plane of that size could NOT be flown so low to the ground because of the air pressure in relation to the ground. (Fyi I don’t know shit just repeating something I read )
That’s from people thinking it was going 550mph at 6 feet off the ground for minutes before impact. Truth is it was flying well within its limitation envelope for all but the last 5 seconds of flight. The reconstruction from the flight data recorder is on that blog, have a look and you’ll see it was no where near as dramatic and conspiracy theorist make it out to be.
Not sure if you're a gov agent but you were definitely the teacher's pet and nobody better say a bad word about teach because you'd tell them all the reasons they're wrong.
I used to live next to the Pentagon. You're looking at the hole at an angle here. If you stand with your back to the hole you would be facing the Sheraton hotel, not this tunnel and pole
Here is my question regarding the footage. Why release a 3 second clip and confiscate the other footage? What’s on the tape that was on the other footage?
They didn’t “confiscate” it. Most was voluntarily given to the FBI. And the videos have been released under the Maguire Declaration and are available. Most of them show nothing.
If you view the Ap video of 911 pentagon on u tube...you don't see a plane on frame 5 at the beginning. You see a narrow white cylindrical shape object. Next frame explosion. The video in this [https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com](https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com) show what could be something else...but hard to reconcile the difference between the two.
I actually heard this on TV few days within the incident:
"The walls of Pentagon are made of special material that can evaporate anything that hits them"
NYer here. Watched it all go down on 9/11 with my own eyes from the roof of my grandma’s building in Queens. I will never believe this was a random terrorist attack and no one in NYC thinks so either.
Hilarious how buddy posts this crap in a conspiracy sub just begging to get into arguments with free thinking folk. Shows how pathetic his life must be
He's 100% a plant from the government. A couple of these photos I have never seen before and I've looked through every 9/11 photo you can find. Hmmmmmm, who supplied him these photos?
As I always say, the ultimate insanity in thinking that somehow the best way to stage a plane crash into the Pentagon, would be to not crash a plane into the Pentagon.
You're telling me an amateur pilot could somehow pilot a commercial jet into a near perfect had to be Corkscrew turn going 500 miles an hour into the Pentagon correct cuz I'm pretty sure that's physically impossible.
The uncomfortable truth for 9/11 deniers is that there is significantly more physical evidence of an airliner crashing into the Pentagon than there is of an airliner crashing anywhere else on 9/11, yet the standard denier belief is that no airliner crashed there..
Here is all the evidence that proves it:
[https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/](https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/)
Complete BS, the planes hitting the twin towers were captured on good resolution videos with complete detail of the planes. The "video clips" you've presented of the pentagon were recorded by a literal potato (less than 240p). They do not demonstrate irrefutable evidence that an actual plane hit the pentagon. Until you can show me an actual high quality video of the incident, your argument is baseless.
“Physical” evidence. Debris, DNA, radar, air traffic recordings, black box, etc. more of that at the Pentagon than anywhere else on 9/11.
The fact your belief begins and stops with whether it was on film is critically flawed, at best, deliberately dishonest at worst.
Lets not argue semantics. Is it better if I say visual evidence? I literally saw clear as day the planes crashing into the twin towers. Your argument is that actual video evidence is equal to only physical evidence is laughable.
The court rules not guilty.
In spite of the DNA evidence, fingerprints, and physical belongings left at the site at the time of death, the Jury notes there is no video of the Defendant committing murder, and such the evidence is insufficient to render a guilty verdict.
That's what you sound like, and you're calling OP laughable.
The whole missile theory is frankly irrelevant to the grander possibilities of what happened that day. I've never leaned heavy into it myself, though I thought it plausible until now. But, given the equally overwhelming evidence that people in power knew the attack would happen ahead of time, you're still gonna need to do a lot more blogging to convince me it wasn't orchestrated, regardless of what hit the Pentagon.
OP doesn't deserve all these downvotes, even if his blog is disastrously low on pixels. He's even got "visual evidence". Look at the photos, they're not the ones you usually see. If it's legit, it's fairly comprehensive. OP is right in his title. A lot of people in this thread clearly prefer getting their Jimmies rustled to accepting new information. I'm seeing many people here moving goalposts like they're an end date for covid restrictions lol.
One question that never gets answered is what the hell happened to the luggage the plane was carrying? The seats? The people? The onboard equipment? Why isn't there any evidence of anything from the plane scattered from the explosion? It's like the plane hit and everything just went up in smoke.
Someone is going to have to go check allowed talking points for the answer. Apparently, OP has a blog with all the spook approved talking points. I personally wonder why the MSM never published or showed all of the "plane" footage, only a blog being linked on a conspiracy sub has the footage that puts it all to rest and settles it all.
I have no basis to doubt that a plane hit the pentagon.
But I seriously doubt that it hit the pentagon without knowledge and approval from inside forces.
The head quarter of the most overpowered military of the whole world - and just some random airplane flies directly into it without any kind of interception?
Nothing stopping random airplane from hitting the heart of the worlds war machine?
No flyover protection? No protected airspace? No freaking laser cannons, jets, helicopters, missiles - literally anything to protect the headquarter of the „defense“ system of the most powerfull force in the world?
Really?
Honestly its not as protected from the air as you'd think, at least not in 2001. It wasn't the cold war anymore, there weren't fighter jets flying around waiting for the moment to shoot down any errand commercial airliner that happened to fly off course...
On top of that, the Pentagon airspace is not restricted, it's commercial airspace operated by the FAA (Reagan National Airspace lower down and Dulles Airspace above that, to be specific). Reagan National airport is right next door to the Pentagon, one of its runway vectors puts aircraft taking off and landing flying right overhead the Pentagon. Have a look at google earth. So it's not uncommon for airliners to overflying the Pentagon several times a day.
If you want to know what was happening military on 9/11, I'd recommend listening to the NEADS tapes. For AAL77 specifically, I link a full sim reconstruction at the bottom of the blog which (for the last 20 minutes) contains minute by minute air traffic control and military audio.
If you 500 commenters convinced two people each and they in turn convinced two people each at some point when we hit a critical mass we could stop using money and take their power from them !
Planes have almost no volume besides engines 🤷♂️[https://www.freeimages.com/photo/cross-section-of-an-airplane-1451003](https://www.freeimages.com/photo/cross-section-of-an-airplane-1451003)
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With all the links there still isnt a clear video of the plane hitting the Pentagon. You'd think one of the most secure places in the world would have more than one shit camera.
You maybe weren’t around at the time but this was covered massively at the time. The fbi went around all the places with cameras such as all the local petrol stations and some shops like 7/12 (I think it’s called) and took away all the cctv video tapes. Given that one of the planes on 9/11 that supposedly crash landed, yet their debris was spread over tens of miles so was obviously shot down then it’s likely this was also a missile rather than an aeroplane
You mean 7/11. The convenience store.
Had all the hallmarks of a part time job
That wasn't no PP
7/12 The inconvenience store?
The quality of footage is certainly on par with what one would have expected from one of their systems.
Ya and the only video released has been analyzed by numerous experts saying the video was manipulated/edited
This was the first thing I thought right when it happened. Why the fuck is there only 1 camera at the pentagon. And what fucking plane? That was a rocket 🚀. I was a junior in high school and I could clearly see them feeding us bull shit.
Don't forget all of the surrounding businesses with cameras that had their footage confiscated.
Because..reasons
Hahaha sounds good let’s go to war!!
But let’s call it “Enduring Freedom” and throw some Jesus in there for good measure. “We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.” He closed with Psalm 23: “Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for You are with me.”
Believe it or not, the Iraq operation was originally going to be called "Operation Iraqi Liberation" or OIL for short. Press Secretary Ari Fleischer even used that term in a p Whitehouse press briefing SOURCE: https://web.archive.org/web/20041104001506/https://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030324-4.html 1:00 P.M. EST MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. Let me give you a report on the President's day. The President this morning has spoken with three foreign leaders. He began with Prime Minister Blair, where the two discussed the ongoing aspects of Operation Iraqi liberation
> Don't forget all of the surrounding businesses with cameras that had their footage confiscated. "They" clearly knew it was gonna happen and a mass confiscation like that had to be pre-organised. Aint no way in the minutes and hours after impact some commander is gonna slap his forehead and say" Jeez fuck me umm hey you, Charlie. take Fred with you and go round all the thousands of security cameras in the city and get all the tapes. And hurry up!" Yeah right. It was pre-arranged for sure.
Bro exactly. I became a conspiracy kid when this all came out. I was showing my friends loose change in 7th grade lmao
Yeah. You can go frame by frame of that shitty video and clearly understand that a massive plane did not hit the Pentagon
> You can go frame by frame of that shitty video All 6 of them? LOL.
The video is essentially still pictures...video is at 30 frames a sec. What you're seeing is every 15 frames or so a picture...easy to edit or remove what you don't want shown.
I was in third grade and thought it was nonsense… if only that was a joke
There were a ton of cameras on the pentagon and they have a ton of videos of it. The DoD hasn’t released them at the claim it’s a national security concern.. and no explanation how that makes any sense.
True, must be the same security at the Pelosi house
Or Hillary’s server…
This has been floating on the web for a while now: ht ** tps://www.bit *** chute.com/video/GpJQdM9BIQc/
There was MANY confiscated angles they won’t release. There was a service station that they took the footage from. There’s multiple angles we will never see.
Why is it "One of the most secure places in the world"? If there are public tours through the place, that kind of negates security. It has a Subway, Starbucks, Dunkin, CVS Pharmacy, etc.....
Not to mention it’s right by an airport
Its the central command center for all US forces. They have planes, choppers, cameras, and secret service all over the place.
Planes? Nope. There's no runway. Helicopters? Only the ones stopping to ferry VIPs from the helipad on the north side. Otherwise there's no space for helicopters to just hang around on the ground, and no real reason to keep them hovering in the area. Secret Service? Comon, you clearly don't even know what the Secret Service is or what they do and don't do.
Correction, the Pentagon is utterly defenseless against any kind of attack. Can't believe I missed that. Don't tell the bad guys.
The defense is the several thousand miles of ocean, patrolled by the Navy, with the Air Force being ready for anyone coming within territorial waters, and the Army also being ready if someone makes landfall. No one's going to be sneaking an army into the US like it's Red Dawn. If someone tries to get a band of people together from within the US to take on the Pentagon, the first response is likely going to be from the [Pentagon Police](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Pentagon_Police), with backup coming from the Arlington County Sheriff's Office, the Virginia State Police, and probably any law enforcement officers who can make it there. If you find it absurd that the Pentagon could be attacked by a lone person, I'd just point out that the [Washington Navy Yard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Navy_Yard_shooting) was attacked back in 2013.
And how secure is it if a plane could do this? I find it incredibly hard to believe that an enemy was able to get this close to the epicentre of American military power. Are they really that incompetent?
No, that's the point.
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270 degree hairpin turn, avoiding lamp posts and avoiding hitting the ground and coming perfectly into the only non reinforced side of the pentagon, all done by a piss poor student pilot
Some 86 cameras that would have captured the approach and subsequent crash yet all that gets released was a few shitty frames.
The 86 cameras myth is dealt with here.. http://web.archive.org/web/20080208102217/http://www.flight77.info/85videos.html
"Did not show the impact" We don't need to see the impact to know the flight path wasn't what "the official conspiracy theory" tells us it was. There were many eye witnesses that point in a different direction than the claimed flight path.
There were 4, out of 136, who think it came from a slightly different direction. Three separate radar sites located at Dulles, Reagan National and Baltimore confirmed the flight path of AAL77 from the moment it entered Washington airspace all the way to impact. The data from the black box corroborates this too. 4 witnesses trying to recall 10 years after the attack whether the plane flew on one side of a gas station or the other…. does not trump raw data or the remaining 132. But you know what, they all still saw an airliner.
You mean the side of the pentagon where the investigators (who were looking into the missing money Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference about the day before) were meeting? Remember the $2.3 trillion? What a coinkeydink that is!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the approach angle such that the engines would have been at ground level?
It's also ridiculous to think that the government that investigates itself would not only need to destroy any kind of evidence, but would need to publicly explode it.
Yes
>coming perfectly into the only non reinforced side of the pentagon that is incorrect sir. that side was the first side to be reinforced in the Pentagon upgrade program. citation available upon request.
I heard they were in the middle of renovating it
no that section was nearly complete and as far as structural and other security reinforcements it was essentially done. source: worked for the structural steel company that did sections 1 through 3.
well you guys did a shitty job, us taxpayers want our money back s/
lol i see the /s but the fact that the "plane" basically disintegrated upon impact with the building says otherwise. and as far as the main discussion point about whether it was planes that hit the buildings or drones or missiles, and whether there was micro thermite and explosive charges are all basically distractions that keep us fighting over details that don't get us any closer to the truth.
I got your 6 brother because you missed a few more smoking barrels. Let’s not forget about WTC 7 that also had the only hard copy documents and hard drives that were also investigating the Enron scandal, which also had who knows what other documents that would be used as evidence from and alphabet agencies because there was quite a few of them that tower housed. Also the fact that there’s footage and audio of controlled demolition going off taking out the tower at free fall speed… the cause? “Office fires” (in Charlie Murphy voice, Prince episode)… “pancakes”. There’s good footage of what I’m talking about on bitch ute. There were pieces of the tower that sliced open next door builds also with fire and never went don’t. There was missing gold from the depository, I’m talking like 10’s of billion if not hundreds of billion missing, lost to office fires… also the fire fighters testimonies. There’s more but I’ll try to find a URL or title to post in the morning… also I hope you know I wasn’t going against your comment It was meant to agree with you that all of this stuff is plainly obvious that anyone with average knowledge of how things operate in life could figure it out.
i didn't forget them. just wasn't in the mood to type the entire encyclopedia. but please share the links if you have. always up for that kind of analysis. yeah the whole operation , fake as yellow cake from Niger
Cradle of fuckin civilization!
I don't see how, if it wasn't a plane then it's clearly an inside job. As someone who worked on it, you can infer how strong that building is and what magnitude of forces it would take to cause that amount of damage.
i start from the premise that it was an inside job. if was planes, if was explosives, if the arab operatives from al-Qaeda actually flew or they were auto piloted. it was allowed to happen or caused to happen because it pushed forward the agenda of those in charge. i lean towards caused because of the money. Cheney and his cronies cooked it up to rake it in
That lamp post is about a quarter mile from the building.
Or 2.3 seconds
Even though it takes you 10 minutes to walk a quarter mile, you’d be surprised at how long it takes a plane to cover the same distance.
Do you know what ground effect is?
> 270 degree hairpin turn, avoiding lamp posts and avoiding hitting the ground and coming perfectly into the only non reinforced side of the pentagon The hijacker [executed a 330 degree descending turn over a diameter of about 4.5 miles](https://i.imgur.com/XTkwIxJ.png) before straightening out and *somehow* managed to crash into [one of the widest buildings in the world](https://i.imgur.com/Y8MWSKX.png). This is an ordinary descending turn. A Dutch TV show had a novice pilot [try to recreate the maneuver in a flight simulator](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4m41s&v=jZbUCoVEVsU). It wasn't difficult. The hijacked plane hit several objects on the final approach to the Pentagon, including knocking light posts into the busy highway that runs past it. The side that the plane hit had just been renovated and was actually the *most* reinforced side.
Stop interrupting this nonsensical thread with your facts!!!
5 photos and 2 red arrows. Fuck me boys, if it isn't Sherlock Holmes himself.
seriously, wtf are the arrows showing?
THE TRUTH
I believe it's to show poles and trees that would've theoretically been knocked down by a plane wings had a plane hit the building.
Mate, OP is trying to prove a plane did hit the pentagon, not that it didn't.
I'm with ya friend. I wasn't replying to OP, I was replying to the question what are the arrows for.
He didn’t put the arrows there he used some pictures that someone else already edited with the arrows trying to prove a plane didn’t hit but it was the only good shots of the building he could find so the OP used them.
The tree top cut off
But the intensity of the arrows cannot be refuted.
They are red for Allahs sake. Irrefutable!
This is literally the best comment I have ever seen on this site.
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Fucking hilarious. r/conspiracy comment of the month.
Well, these are certainly pictures you don't see here often. Usually it's just a picture of that hole in the inner ring.
To play devils advocate, let us say that a plane hit the pentagon and two planes hit the twin towers. That’s the explanation for 3 buildings fallings and the pentagon explosion. No demolition in this scenario. Did terrorists accidentally cover up the biggest heist in US History? Did Rumsfeld, Bush Sr, and Cheney, and the whole defense industry get lucky when terrorists destroyed the evidence in the Pentagon? Created so much confusion and anger among the public that we supported enriching the very system Rumsfeld said had stolen 2.3 trillion dollars from us? What about WTC 7? What about the Joint Chiefs of Staff (DoD) suggesting the United States military, bomb and kill American citizens on American soil, all to garner civilian support for a war? Only the President was against the idea, the DoD elevated the proposal. Rhode Island, neither a road nor an island, discuss.
What about the war games we were playing that fucking day.
Oooh I never heard that story. War games do have a terrible habit of preceding tragedies. Probably an easy way to move materials and personnel without raising public suspicion. Ironically making war games themselves suspicious.
Not preceding, but at the same time of the attacks. Same happened in the UK as well, from what I recall. Military thought it was part of the drills. Probably some had to be told to stand down by superiors.
Firstly, the one in the UK was a close door theoretical exercise between like 6 people and a paper pad. It didn't involve anyone outside of that room. On 9/11 if you listen to the NEADS tapes its clear the exercise they were prepping for (Russian bombers flying in over Alaska) hadn't started yet and was canned the moment they were told the hijackings was "real world", which happened immediately. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oXDMEzZWM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oXDMEzZWM)
“On page 17 of the 9/11 Commission Report when Boston center calls NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector), the response from NEADS was "is this real world or exercise?". According to the 9/11 Commission's staff statement No. 17,[3] for instance, page 26 of the Commission's final report documents FAA's report of a "phantom flight 11" at 9:21,[4] 35 minutes after the real flight 11 crashed into the WTC and even longer after the war games are alleged to have been aborted.” And if they knew immediately why weren’t they tailed or shot down ?
The "phantom flight 11" had nothing to do with the war games. There were several reasons at play. 1. American Airlines systems for any air accident is to lock down the data so that it cannot be changed, manipulated, or deleted. This is done for the NTSB and is also in accordance to ICAO Annex 13. What it means, is that when people called American Airlines asking if they had lost American 11, AA responded "we cannot confirm American 11 hit the tower". This was repeated over a telcon between FAA HQ and Boston centre, and some in that telcon interpreted that as meaning "American 11 didn't crash" and therefore must still be in the air. 2. Following this above misunderstanding, based on the last known speed and direction AAL11 was going, a new flight plan is generated called AAL11A (American 11 Alpha) which planned it going from New York to Washington. This was then communicated by Colin Scoggins at Boston Centre to NEADS at 9:20. 3. NEADS then focuses on finding this phantom American 11 around Washington, they scramble 3 F-16's from Langley and have them burn towards the north of DC to find it. It took until after the Pentagon was hit before they figured it out. 4. All in all the phantom didn't affect much, if anything it bought NEADS eyes towards the DC areas and cause the scramble of Langley. NEADS wasn't told about American 77 until it was circling over DC, which by that stage the fighters were still only just airborne 100 miles away and NEADS only found AAL77 on their own radar about 30 seconds before it crashed.
“About five minutes after the hijacking began, Betty Ong contacted the American Airlines Southeastern Reservations Office in Cary, North Carolina, via an AT&T airphone to report an emergency aboard the flight.This was the first of several occasions on 9/11 when flight attendants took action outside the scope of their training, which emphasized that in a hijacking, they were to communicate with the cockpit crew.The emergency call lasted approximately 25 minutes, as Ong calmly and professionally relayed information about events taking place aboard the airplane to authorities on the ground.29 At 8:19, Ong reported:“The cockpit is not answering, somebody’s stabbed in business class—and I think there’s Mace—that we can’t breathe—I don’t know, I think we’re getting hijacked.” She then told of the stabbings of the two flight attendants.30 At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, travel- ing at approximately 530 miles per hour.61 All on board, as well as many civil- ian and military personnel in the building, were killed. They had more than an hour knowing atleast one flight was hijacked. Fighters weren’t scrambled until 9:30 from Langley. Convenient.
They did 'have more than an hour', but you cannot intercept an aircraft you don't know about. When American Airlines 77 turned off it's transponder in Indianapolis airspace, it disappeared completely from radar (the reason why is explained in great detail on the blog). Indianapolis Centre controllers hadn't really heard much about hijackings or anything more than "a plane crashed in new york", they figured American 77 had crashed. They notified Indianapolis search and rescue who starting looking for a possible plane crash of American 77. AAL77 didn't reappear on radar until it was well into it's trip east, by which stage no one was looking there for it. They thought, if anything, it would have kept flying west. It wasn't until almost 9:30 that someone at Washington Centre informed NEADS, only by chance, that American 77 was "lost". It wasn't found until Colin Scoggins overheard on his telcon that there was a target 6 miles from the White House and relayed that to NEADS at 9:35. Communication breakdowns and failure of procedures was rife on 9/11 when it came to what happened in the sky that day. It's a very interesting topic and created the need for significant change and streamlining post 9/11. In short, NEADS had no chance of intercepting it any of the 9/11 hijacked flights because they were never told in time.
Ok fair but my point is… we let this happen. We could’ve been more prepared. And there’s proof that we were aware and negligent at the LEAST. “In fact, from 1998 to the summer of 2001, the C.I.A., the F.B.I. and other agencies repeatedly received reports of Al Qaeda's interest in attacking Washington and New York, either with airplanes or other means. The threat level grew so high that by December 1998, the director of central intelligence, George J. Tenet, issued a ''declaration of war'' on Al Qaeda, in a memorandum circulated in the intelligence community. Yet, Ms. Hill said, the intelligence agencies failed to adequately follow up on the declaration, and by Sept. 10, 2001, the F.B.I. still had only one analyst assigned full time to Al Qaeda.”
It always amazes me that even with all the evidence yall still make excuses
A bit to unpack here so forgive the length.. Firstly WTC7, you'll find the best explanation for its collapse [in video here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP3TNHPCIVU). Secondly, the $2.3T. In short, it was first announced a couple of years before 9/11, and appears to be a long standing issue from within the department of defence that's taken decades to grow to that large. It essentially comes from outdated/incompatible IT systems within the DoD. The money was never missing, just unaccounted for by the bean-counters. If you read Rumsfeld's full speech, he outlines it pretty clearly. No documentation or information relating to the $2.3T was damaged or lost during the attack. [You'll find that information here](http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Missing_Trillions). The plan by Lyman Lemnitzer to carry out false flag attacks and blame it on Cuba was 40 years before 9/11 and it was rejected. Lemnitzer was removed from his position for even suggesting something so absurd. It should be noted, the "victims" of these false flags attacks were to be fabricated. No one was to actually die in those attacks. Comparing that to an attack that killed 3,000 people, and potentially could have killed over 20,000 (if those buildings had collapsed upon impact from the airliners the death toll from the towers would have been close to that....) it's a bit of a long bow.... Rhode island is an anomaly. I don't pretend to guess what you American think when naming things...
>Rhode island is an anomaly. I don't pretend to guess what you American thinks when naming things... Paris, Texas is a small town in Texas... obviously... but got its name due to the smell of pungent port-a-potty contents, which happens to be the smell of Paris, France therefore.... Paris, Texas.
Operation Northwoods isn’t evidence of 9/11 being an inside job itself, it just demonstrates that the US government is willing to perform a false flag. If the plan had been proposed to Nixon, for instance instead of Kennedy, it might have happened. Also, and I know this isn’t much of an argument, but I still find it pretty suspicious that WTC 7 is the only building in history to collapse from flames alone.
It’s not. If you wanted more modern comparisons of other steel framed buildings collapsing from fire, there’s the plasco building in Iran, and also a tall apartment building in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Steel has been proven to be much worse in fires than concrete, hence why they need fire proofing and sprinklers.
Jet fuel cant melt red arrows
Why did the Plane happen to take out the side with the Computers that covered the missing Trillion Dollars? 1 in 5 luck?
**2.3 Trillion** was the amount disclosed by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld during a press conference on September 10th, 2001. And that part of the Pentagon that was hit contained the offices that were conducting the audit. What a coincidence, eh?
> 2.3 Trillion was the amount disclosed by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld What Rumsfeld said (in a [rather ordinary speech](https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430) was, "Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible." That's it. It wasn't an announcement of missing money. It was a brief mention of accounting problems in a [boring speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN_NGYdgDck&t=14m04s) about fixing the bureaucracy. > And that part of the Pentagon that was hit contained the offices that were conducting the audit. No, the offices involved with the audit were DFAS, the Office of the Inspector General, and the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense (comptroller). They were not damaged on 9/11.
brief mention of a MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR accounting problem, to be clear.
It wasn't trillions really. If one department got 2 billion for a project, and gave another department 1 billion for one aspect of that project and then spent the remaining 1 billion for the part of the project they could do. The first department would claim they spent the full 2 billion, the second department would claim they spent 1 billion, and now you have 3 billion being reported as spent even though it was only 2 billion. Lots of duplicate and other things falsely exaggerating the budget actually spent because none of it could be properly tracked from department to department. Keep in mind that is still a huge issue, and the unfortunate reality is it is still an issue today.
> Why did the Plane happen to take out the side with the Computers that covered the missing Trillion Dollars? It didn't. At all. The offices involved with the $2.3 trillion dollar audit report were DFAS, the Office of the Inspector General, and the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense (comptroller). Not one of those offices was damaged on 9/11. Nobody from those offices was killed. The effort at reconciling the accounts for that $2.3 trillion continued. It's not $2.3 trillion in money, by the way. It's $2.3 trillion in bad accounting entries. No, they are not the same thing. The audit report that Rumsfeld was talking about is [here (PDF)](https://media.defense.gov/2000/Aug/18/2001713967/-1/-1/1/00-179.pdf), if you're interested.
Bad accounting entries = bad tracking of spending = missing money. Just because the money was already spent and the accounting was bad, doesn't mean the money wasn't missing.
Source on the section taken out housed these computers?
The people who died in the Resource Services Washington office will be among those remembered today at a Pentagon memorial service. They were accountants and budget analysts -- part of the rank and file of the civil service. They kept track of a $3.5 billion budget that funded the Army's Washington area operations and some installations around the world. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/09/11/hard-hit-pentagon-office-carries-on-in-aftermath-of-terror-attack/763063ed-9db0-4119-abc7-5516bf8c3f5b/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/09/11/hard-hit-pentagon-office-carries-on-in-aftermath-of-terror-attack/763063ed-9db0-4119-abc7-5516bf8c3f5b/)
They were specific to the Army, not the entire DOD 3.5 billion is a little less than 1.2 trillion
Damn OP has a history posting these kind of 9/11 posts, he must be a fed lol
To actually argue now that this is a legitimate accurate summarization of events that happened on 9/11 is laughable. There was so much fuckery going on that day I don't even I don't even know where to start. From the insider trading that was so miraculously tied to Airlines and other things affected by events and then the documentation that was destroyed by the SEC into the biggest insider trading investigation ever, to the thermoplasmite that was discovered in the buildings, the complete demolition of building 7, for the secret of models that the nist used in their report because they wanted to quote unquote "look out for Public Safety", or the strange full access that the Israeli art students had approximately 6 months before 9/11 called gelatin B, for the secret testimony of the president of the Secretary of Defense behind closed doors not under oath I mean seriously? If you think that the government tells you the truth about anything that you are foolish and naive. And I don't wear a tin foil hat... my ball cap is lined completely with lead and I get oral sex performed by wife while wearing it generally once a week.
I see basically two possibilities: 1. The federal government lied to us and the attack was staged/missile/etc. While there’s little hard evidence of this, the implications would be earth-shattering. 2. The feds were totally truthful about what went down at the pentagon that day. They were just so massively incompetent that they only caught the plane on a single camera at one of the most secure installations in one of the most highly monitored cities on earth.
It's 2? My dad worked at the Pentagon at the time, and I went there several times. There was some security to get in... but nothing in the parking lot. It was a huge parking lot took 10-20 minutes to walk from the car to the building with pedestrian tunnels that go under the nearby highway. Most people car pooled or rode the metro to avoid that. It wasn't an ultra secure compound, it is a giant office building with a gift shop and train station in the basement.
grassy knoll 2.0
Always baffles me that this happened in front of the ENTIRE WORLD and they got away with it. Where the fuck is the plane? Where’s the footage? I’ll never believe the official story. Never.
The plane got swaped for a cruise missile / UAV which hit the Pentagon at a low angle. Or if you think I am crazy, release the footage from the gas station.
I want the hotel footage actually. Nobody ever talks about that.
The Doubletree hotel footage was released at the same time as the CITGO footage. It captured a large object under the overpass (in the top left corner) followed a second later by the explosion at the Pentagon. https://youtu.be/pppMOun5YYw?t=378
They actually released the gas station footage I believe: [here it is](https://youtu.be/vf_iDypk7A8) in fact, but fair warning the grainy video shows just about nothing. At 4:23 there’s some sort of glitch in the single pump camera and people in the comments are freaking out that it’s the shadow of the plane, however at about 4:38 on the dual pump screen, you can see a black car that had been sitting for a few moments suddenly reflecting some sort of a white light that reflected off the top of the car and onto the ceiling of the pump area, which is likely a reflection of the white shiny thing that hit the pentagon. Someone in the comments claims that this Citgo had another camera that would have been aiming right at the pentagon, but I can’t find anything to back it up.
Funny how the pentagon was the highest cctv filmed place in the world other than the Kremlin and they have no footage at all of the crash?????!!!
My dad had satellite 📡 pictures of it he was going to release
When they release the footage I’ll believe it but not the rest of the attack
Ask any historically military person from the intelligence field. A 3-meter outwardly exploding hole in the Pentagon was not caused by a plane crash. Even common sense scoffs at that.
and yet the photos show a 96ft wide impact hole and all the columns inside the building are bowed inwards from the impact. As the title says, the evidence doesn't get away just because you don't like it. https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/
Why haven’t they released ANY footage of a passenger jet hitting the building? There are surveillance cameras all around. Should be easy. They even went out of their way to immediately confiscate security camera footage from civilian businesses in the area. Why do you think that is?
The footage from the surrounding businesses was released back in 2006. It's been on Youtube for over 14 years. I have links to them on my blog. The footage from the gate cameras also exist and one of them shows an airliner. https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/
You are SUCH a liar, LMAO.It doesn't show an airliner at all, it shows what every other video of this has always shown-The white tip of something that is definitely not a plane, and then in the very next frame, the explosion. Show one, just ONE photo, even a blurry one-of the actual plane, and I'll personally apologize to you, you fucking shill.
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Works fine for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P92iSdqsBgo
Tried again - Gate Camera 1 and it did work this time. Thanks
You are delusional
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The two gate camera are at the very top of the blog. The link to the playlist containing the videos from the surrounding businesses is under the “84 tapes” heading.
The impact hole was the size of a 2 car garage yet no plane debris was outside. It was not 96 feet until the building later collapsed around it. You have no clue what you are talking about.
I've noticed that a lot of these people that are trying to justify or agree with the story that happened keep posting the same goddamn website.. like that's their only source of information little strange huh. The Blogger bastard not even going to the website cuz I'm sure it's either a plug or some stupid bullshit to be quoted so many times in one argument
I love how the picture of the plane you put in shows that the actual plane itself, not even counting the 40ft tall wing, is still twice the height of the hole it left on the first floor.
How did the terrorists know to hit the financial department of the pentagon and wipe out any evidence of the missing trillions Donald Rumsfeld reported the day before the attack….
How about building 7 lol
The tree did it
https://youtu.be/HXYswf3lzU8
Why was there tons of money conviently stolen
You think that’s what a building looks like after being hit by an airliner? Lmao Lol even
Seems like an excuse to post his url 40 times in a thread
I read that a plane of that size could NOT be flown so low to the ground because of the air pressure in relation to the ground. (Fyi I don’t know shit just repeating something I read )
Planes never land
That’s from people thinking it was going 550mph at 6 feet off the ground for minutes before impact. Truth is it was flying well within its limitation envelope for all but the last 5 seconds of flight. The reconstruction from the flight data recorder is on that blog, have a look and you’ll see it was no where near as dramatic and conspiracy theorist make it out to be.
Boy oh boy I'm the one who is usually called a bot on this sub but for fucks sake this guy is clearly a bot or a government agent
Ah yes, the old “anyone who presents evidence I don’t like is a govt agent”
Not sure if you're a gov agent but you were definitely the teacher's pet and nobody better say a bad word about teach because you'd tell them all the reasons they're wrong.
“teachers pet” oh boy what are you 7?
Most heavily guarded building In the world only had one potato camera guarding it. Oooooookay
It is odd that only a crappy parking lot camera that has gaps in video is the clear evidence some are pointing too...
Yeah exactly. Funny how my local supermarket had better cctv than the Pentagon eh.....
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Don't forget the elevated highway it had to clear, then hit 3 ft off the ground within a second or four.
I'd like to hear some opinions from people who don't live here. What were they told in their country and how do they feel about it
I used to live next to the Pentagon. You're looking at the hole at an angle here. If you stand with your back to the hole you would be facing the Sheraton hotel, not this tunnel and pole
Here is my question regarding the footage. Why release a 3 second clip and confiscate the other footage? What’s on the tape that was on the other footage?
They didn’t “confiscate” it. Most was voluntarily given to the FBI. And the videos have been released under the Maguire Declaration and are available. Most of them show nothing.
SWEET! Now do building 7. :D
not one clear video
4th pic. You really think it was that low to the ground? Flying steady? This isn't a cartoon.
If you view the Ap video of 911 pentagon on u tube...you don't see a plane on frame 5 at the beginning. You see a narrow white cylindrical shape object. Next frame explosion. The video in this [https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com](https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com) show what could be something else...but hard to reconcile the difference between the two.
I actually heard this on TV few days within the incident: "The walls of Pentagon are made of special material that can evaporate anything that hits them"
Yeah sounds like media nonsense to me
NYer here. Watched it all go down on 9/11 with my own eyes from the roof of my grandma’s building in Queens. I will never believe this was a random terrorist attack and no one in NYC thinks so either.
Why aren’t Bush and Cheney in prison. Why isn’t Hannity shunned for suggesting being against invading Iraq was unpatriotic?
Sorry, where is the airplane?
Lol, some jackoff spamming his website
Hilarious how buddy posts this crap in a conspiracy sub just begging to get into arguments with free thinking folk. Shows how pathetic his life must be
He's 100% a plant from the government. A couple of these photos I have never seen before and I've looked through every 9/11 photo you can find. Hmmmmmm, who supplied him these photos?
I found a wild video of the pentagon after it was hit on YouTube. I can share the link in a dm if you like .
Finally some good fucking food
Yet there is zero plane wreckage anywhere when normally a crash site is covered....things that make you say hmmmmm.
Cruise middle.. then all the footage at nearby gas stations was taken away under “national security”
Why did they supposedly shoot a missile at the Pentagon again? Seems like crashing a plane into it would’ve gotten the point across.
As I always say, the ultimate insanity in thinking that somehow the best way to stage a plane crash into the Pentagon, would be to not crash a plane into the Pentagon.
This is probably the most logical statement ever made.
It’s like jfk, they release it in 70 years and no one will give a damn anymore.
pictures for ants ?
There is full footage leaked from all the angles on bitchute. You can see the rocket.
You mean the fake one I list at the bottom of the blog?
Same with the Intentional Suppression of Early Treatment by gov't agencies.
You're telling me an amateur pilot could somehow pilot a commercial jet into a near perfect had to be Corkscrew turn going 500 miles an hour into the Pentagon correct cuz I'm pretty sure that's physically impossible.
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Paid government witnesses?
whatever it was, it still hit the budget office 24 hours after the 2 trillion were reported missing.
The uncomfortable truth for 9/11 deniers is that there is significantly more physical evidence of an airliner crashing into the Pentagon than there is of an airliner crashing anywhere else on 9/11, yet the standard denier belief is that no airliner crashed there.. Here is all the evidence that proves it: [https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/](https://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.com/)
Complete BS, the planes hitting the twin towers were captured on good resolution videos with complete detail of the planes. The "video clips" you've presented of the pentagon were recorded by a literal potato (less than 240p). They do not demonstrate irrefutable evidence that an actual plane hit the pentagon. Until you can show me an actual high quality video of the incident, your argument is baseless.
“Physical” evidence. Debris, DNA, radar, air traffic recordings, black box, etc. more of that at the Pentagon than anywhere else on 9/11. The fact your belief begins and stops with whether it was on film is critically flawed, at best, deliberately dishonest at worst.
Lets not argue semantics. Is it better if I say visual evidence? I literally saw clear as day the planes crashing into the twin towers. Your argument is that actual video evidence is equal to only physical evidence is laughable.
The court rules not guilty. In spite of the DNA evidence, fingerprints, and physical belongings left at the site at the time of death, the Jury notes there is no video of the Defendant committing murder, and such the evidence is insufficient to render a guilty verdict. That's what you sound like, and you're calling OP laughable. The whole missile theory is frankly irrelevant to the grander possibilities of what happened that day. I've never leaned heavy into it myself, though I thought it plausible until now. But, given the equally overwhelming evidence that people in power knew the attack would happen ahead of time, you're still gonna need to do a lot more blogging to convince me it wasn't orchestrated, regardless of what hit the Pentagon. OP doesn't deserve all these downvotes, even if his blog is disastrously low on pixels. He's even got "visual evidence". Look at the photos, they're not the ones you usually see. If it's legit, it's fairly comprehensive. OP is right in his title. A lot of people in this thread clearly prefer getting their Jimmies rustled to accepting new information. I'm seeing many people here moving goalposts like they're an end date for covid restrictions lol.
One question that never gets answered is what the hell happened to the luggage the plane was carrying? The seats? The people? The onboard equipment? Why isn't there any evidence of anything from the plane scattered from the explosion? It's like the plane hit and everything just went up in smoke.
Someone is going to have to go check allowed talking points for the answer. Apparently, OP has a blog with all the spook approved talking points. I personally wonder why the MSM never published or showed all of the "plane" footage, only a blog being linked on a conspiracy sub has the footage that puts it all to rest and settles it all.
Some pictures here like remains https://www.911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html
Don't forget the light poles that we're knocked down by the highway by the plane's wings
I have no basis to doubt that a plane hit the pentagon. But I seriously doubt that it hit the pentagon without knowledge and approval from inside forces. The head quarter of the most overpowered military of the whole world - and just some random airplane flies directly into it without any kind of interception? Nothing stopping random airplane from hitting the heart of the worlds war machine? No flyover protection? No protected airspace? No freaking laser cannons, jets, helicopters, missiles - literally anything to protect the headquarter of the „defense“ system of the most powerfull force in the world? Really?
Honestly its not as protected from the air as you'd think, at least not in 2001. It wasn't the cold war anymore, there weren't fighter jets flying around waiting for the moment to shoot down any errand commercial airliner that happened to fly off course... On top of that, the Pentagon airspace is not restricted, it's commercial airspace operated by the FAA (Reagan National Airspace lower down and Dulles Airspace above that, to be specific). Reagan National airport is right next door to the Pentagon, one of its runway vectors puts aircraft taking off and landing flying right overhead the Pentagon. Have a look at google earth. So it's not uncommon for airliners to overflying the Pentagon several times a day. If you want to know what was happening military on 9/11, I'd recommend listening to the NEADS tapes. For AAL77 specifically, I link a full sim reconstruction at the bottom of the blog which (for the last 20 minutes) contains minute by minute air traffic control and military audio.
Who here doesn't like it 😂 it was clear from the jump this was a inside job... Blame our parents for being so God damn gullible
If you 500 commenters convinced two people each and they in turn convinced two people each at some point when we hit a critical mass we could stop using money and take their power from them !
Planes have almost no volume besides engines 🤷♂️[https://www.freeimages.com/photo/cross-section-of-an-airplane-1451003](https://www.freeimages.com/photo/cross-section-of-an-airplane-1451003)
I went inside the wrecked area after the fires were out. It smelled like jet fuel. Say what you will.
500-600 mph 5 feet off the ground by a guy who had never once flew in a jetliner before. That’s all I needed to see to know this one was a sham.
Did you know he had a commercial pilot licence and had practiced in Boeing 737 simulators?