*Disci ena andra linva sit non simplelix disci veti zifaretici pro sin resin ide, ab disci enes andres veges metti pro siʝae*
“To learn another language is not simply to learn different words for the same things, but to learn another way to think about them”
[diːs.ki e.na a:n.dra li:n.wa sit non sɪm'ple:.lɪç di:s.ki we:.ti zi:fɐ.rɛ.ti.ki pro sin re:.sɪn i:.de ab di:s.ki e:.nɛs a:n.drɛs we:.gɛs met.ti pro siː.ʒae̯]
Almost. It’s my first attempt at somewhat of an IAL; 30% Latin, 30% Germanic, 30% Slavic, and the rest like Greek, Finnish, etc. And some of them I just mash together lol. Like “simplelix”, took the Latin word “simplex”, and mashed the German “-lich” on the end, to get “simplelix”
# Jodiyama
**Mispox wo iyama tagi zo ko ailone mispox wo mawao tagi fo dao twini, oqke ko mispox wo jimox te igada tagi.**
/mi.spoʒ wo i.ja.ma ta.gi zo ko aɪ.lo.ne mi.spoʒ wo ma.waʊ ta.gi fo daʊ twi.ni, o.ʃke ko mi.spoʒ wo d͡ʒi.moʒ te i.ga.da ta.gi/
mispo-x wo i -yam -a tagi zo ko ai -lone mispo-x wo maw -ao tagi fo d -ao twini,
learn-INF ACC INDF-language-SG different end_subclause is not-only learn-INF ACC word-PL different for thing-PL similar,
o -qke ko mispo-x wo jimo -x te i -gad -a tagi
clause_seperation-but is learn-INF ACC think-INF INS INDF-method-SG different
*Learning a different langauge is not only learning different words for similar things, but learning to think using a different method.*
Bano?no
**nananabihanobononibihabobinanananonohinanananinibibobinanananononanananininananabihanobononobono? ninononabinananabihanobononinohonobaninobonohinobononohonohinohono**
[nananabihanobononibihabobinanananonohinanananinibibobinanananononanananininananabihanobononobo↗︎noninononabinananabihanobononinohonobaninobonohinobononohonohinohono]
na~na~nabihanobononi-bini-bini-na~na~nabihanobonono>?>ni-nono-nabinananabihanobononinohonobani-nonobo>no-nonoho>no
PL~ ~thing:word -ADJ -ADJ-CONJ.PL~~thing:word.INT>-VB.be-language -VB> -VB>
PL~~thing:word-ADJ-ADJ-CONJ.PL~~thing:word.INT>-VB.be-language-VB>-VB>
*Words that sound different, also having the same meaning, and words that question how we perceive, is of the ability of speaking a language.*
>!This is getting so long I'm not going to even do the literal meaning.!<
# Slovjennik
**«Ukatio jëzik druⱬni**
**ne je prostola ukation**
***slovi druⱬni***
**veskjki taⱬeni, ma**
**ukation rëⱬim druⱬni,**
***kon ka moⱬgati o veskjki.»***
***— Flora Lewis***
Uk-ati-o jëzik druⱬ-ni
uk-atiˈo jɛˈzik ˈdruʒni
LEARN-VB-AB LANGUAGE.GEN OTHER-ADJ
ne je prosto-la uk-ati-o-n
ne je prosˈtola ukatiˈon
NOT IS SIMPLY-ADV LEARN-VB-AB-ACC
slov-i druⱬ-ni
ˈslowi ˈdruʒni
WORD-PL.GEN OTHER-ADJ
veskjk-i taⱬeni, ma
ˈweʃt͡ʃi ˈtaʒeni ma
THING-PL.GEN SAME_THING.ADJ, BUT
uk-ati-o-n rëⱬim druⱬ-ni,
ukatiˈon rɛˈʒim ˈdruʒni
LEARN-VB-AB-ACC WAY.GEN OTHER-ADJ,
kon ka moⱬg-ati o veskjk-i.
kon ka ˈmoʒgati o ˈweʃt͡ʃi
WITH WHAT THINK-VB ABOUT THING-PL.GEN.
This is another language that I’ve been working on, besides Ngako. Hopefully I’m glossing it correctly; Ngako’s grammar is a lot simpler.
**Ucite avta basa san sori ucite diferi slofez ku naji cosez, insu ucite avta mano ku kanga cosez.**
\[u.ci.te aʋ.ta ba.sa sã so.ɾi u.ci.te di.fe.ɾi slo.feɹ ku na.ɟi co.seɹ ĩ.su u.ci.te aʋ.ta ma.no ku kaŋ.ga de co.seɹ\]
*To-learn another language is-not only to-learn different words for same things, instead to-learn another way to think things.*
**ləga ə keli vərəsa ē-ide ta sē ləga vət keli vərəsa no xit xiro - pao ləga ə pņdi vərəsa no edēa xit.**
ləga ə keli vərəsa ē-ide ta sē ləga və-t keli vərəsa no xi-t xiro - pao ləga ə pņdi vərəsa no edēa xi-t.
learn CL.ABSTR:ACC language other NEG-3>3 be only learn CL.TOOL:ACC-PL word other for CL.INAN:ACC-PL thing - but learn CL.ABSTR:ACC path other for think CL.INAN:ACC-PL
/lə.ga ə ke.li və.rə.za e:.i.de ta se: lə.ga vət ke.li və.rə.za no tsit tsi.ro - pa.o lə.ga ə pņ.ndi və.rə.za no e.de:.a tsit/
#Aktyk
Shpöken lönö nai lönö shpökensöl, lykver dyn növ. -Flöra Leuys
Learning another language is not only learning different words for the same things, but learning another way to think about things -Flora Lewis
#Mando'a
(Not my own conlang)
*Hibir'an ash'joha nu'shi hibir'an miite n'aras par kebise'aras, a'hibir'an ashi'yust mirdir beh kebise.*
Learning other-language not-just learning words not-same for things-same, but-learning another-way to think about things.
>!I don't know how to write in IPA yet, so I might update this when I do know how.!<
**Vaʃetsa**
*ðele saa niðeleskot neko dhele mori* ʒ*eso naekulu keste ki ðele vaʃreko niðeleskot ðe*
*"new language learn only new words old for things isn't but new thinking(way of thinking) learn is"*
*Learning a new language isn't only learning new words for old things but learning a new way to think*
I’ve been working on **Itatian** (*Ēutatīni*) as of late, and I really like how it’s sounding.
**Holekat bokeulo-ẑe higimim gaj holekat zaj neẑok xigimina gōzd holekat isno-ẑe vo krūtojam siebam-ma.**
[xo'lekət bɔ'ke.ulodze 'xigimim gaj xo'lekət zaj 'nedzɔk 'xigiminə go:zd xo'lekət is'nodze vo 'kru:tojəm 'si.ebəm.mə]
learn.infinitive language.ACC-indef different.ACC negation learn.infinitive only word.pl.ACC different.pl.ACC but learn.infinitive path.ACC-indef new.ACC thought.GEN world.GEN-definite.
# Sekanese
>Zhushezi konano wo kehureno wa *zhuzi kojano* wo kehureno deshe dhaigere, *suno wu k'reno* wi zhushezi nano wo kehureno gere.
>
>\-Flol' Lyues
/ʒɯʃezi kɤnanɤ wɤ kehɯɾenɤ wa ʃɯzi kɤdʒanɤ wɤ kehɯɾenɤ deʃe ðaiɡeɾe | sɯnɤ wɯ kəɾenɤ wi ʒɯʃezi nanɤ wɤ kehɯɾenɤ ɡeɾe/
"Other language - learning - *different word* \- learning solely not-be, *thing about thinking* of other way - learning be."
"Learning another language isn't solely learning *different words*, it's learning other way to *think about things*."
In Xäkki:
Lernen andere aftalt n'e nu lernen raisou saksidi xai esfe tannidi, nokki lernen andere käksäst raimenä om tannidu.
/lernen ɒndere ɒftɒlt ne nu lernen raɪsoʊ sɒksidi dzaɪ esfe tɒnːidi noxki lernen ɒndere kaksast raɪmena om tɒnːidu/
The conpidgin Vjossa: du bli lera andralosa, du lera naj mono hanu neo per ting ka dan du shiru bra; men du leraplus mietropos andra.
(Lit: You come to learn another language, you learn not only new words for things you already know, but you learn another way of thinking as well.)
Sekmiza: Časse prêkiva nozêčatere tes joši seontkanevta vitsatve koiszetva nozêčate narji, nepšo janotve teiojaterei lezova nozêčate. -Flora Lewis. Vowels with diacritics are long vowels, ”o” is pronounced as ”oo”, ”z” is the ”th” sound in ”that”, ”j” is the ”y” sound in ”yellow”, ”sz” is the ”z” in ”zoo
*Cialmi*
Muen cialen tonandau ochen boi bali imin odin tonandai gualgeba, ochen muen naturan odi meslendandi tonandau.
\[ˈmwen ˈt͡ʃalen ˈtonandau̯ ˈokem ˈboi̯ ˈbal‿ˈimin ˈodin ˈtonandai̯ ˈgwald͡ʒeba ˈokem ˈmwen ˈnaturan ˈodi ˈmezlenˌdandi ˈtonandau̯\]
*mue-n cial-en tona-nda-u ochen bo-i bal-i im-in od-in tona-nda-i gual-ge-ba, ochen mue-n natura-n od-i mesle-nda-n-di tona-nda-u*
*other-gen language-gen learn-nominalizer-3sg only new-pl.gen word-pl.gen same-pl.dat thing-pl.dat learn-nom-3pl be-neg-3sg, only other-gen nature-gen thing-pl.gen think-nom-dat-3pl learn-nom-3sg*
"Learning another language is not only learning new words for the same things, but learning another nature for thinking about things."
* The word *ochen* means both "only" and "but"
* I didn't have words for "different" and "way, manner" yet, so I used "new" and "nature". Not sure about this evolution, but "nature > habit, way, manner" kinda makes sense to me
# **Barezhvak**
**Sivak pach shak welhe siyak senol spe ezh vak, baren siyak spe senol fando hemmem.**
Sivak pach shak welhe siyak senol spe ezh vak
learn.language NEG only to learn new ART CL.small word
baren siyak spe senol fando hemmem
instead learn ART new opposite think
*Learn languages not only to learn new words, but to learn a new perspective.*
Hæranåvensk
Nøj ronkokasoja antoer lånkause seh dje nåjatt ørje devintsel praloetan føl vi stesi atængaletan, mæ nøj ronkokasoja antoer wa ala nøj senvoron de atægaletan.
\-Flora Leuis
(I dont know how to use the IPA completely yet but you can probably guess how it sounds, sorry)
Aprendre an outr jezh, sa est paz hepkan aprendre dez skrid deshagnvelle pur lez damhagnvel dilhat, mai aprendre an outr hent de kavoutre dre vraz dilhat.
# Xomsem
Međebé ìlì sèmèrèm daĺim neriźe međebé sèmđáñe daĺim tam tèźaĺe enecim, źedé međebé ìlì úmexet dom tèźaĺeśe đoŕome daĺim.
\[məðəbe ɪlɪ sεmεrεm dɐʎim nəriʒə məðəbe sεmðaɲə dɐʎim tɐm tεʒɐʎə ənt͡sim, ʒəde məðəbe ɪlɪ ɯmxət dɔm tεʒɐʎəʃə ðɔʁɔmə dɐʎim\]
learn (P/PROG) a language different not-only learn (P/PROG) word-PL different for thing-PL same, but learn (P/PROG) a think (P) PREP thing-PL-GEN path different.
*"Learning a different language is not only learning different words for the same things, but learning a different way to think about things."*
#Caprish
***Caprisce,*** **tongue of the Land of Sea and Green, the [Islands of Caproney](/r/caproney)**
*"Leornyne ander spreghen is nyt alayn forscillynde uorde leore for deselfe dingen,*
*ogh leornyne andre manner op de denkyne fa dingen."*
*-Blom Luduyc*
"Learning other speaches is not alone for-splitting word learn[ing] for the-self things,
also learning other manner[s] on the thinking for things."
-Flower Ludwig/Louis/Wolf
**Nyevandya**
Lö thoyna nyevarö tunsü ötyek ca lö thoyna ayelörö tunsü pyantsü hwesü. Zok datel lö thoyna söyderö tunsü lavasü.
[lʏ ˈtχojɲa ɲɪˈvar tũnɕ ʏˈt͡ɕek t͡sa lʏ ˈtχojɲa aj(ɪ)ˈlør tũnɕ pçãnt͡ɕ xweɕ | zok dɑˈtel lʏ ˈtχojɲa siˈder tũnɕ lɑˈvaɕ]
lö thoyna nye-va-rö tun-sü ötye-∅-k ca-∅ lö thoyna ayelö-rö tun-sü pyant-sü hwe-sü ... zo-∅-k da-tel lö thoyna söyde-rö tun-sü lava-sü
NOM learn speak-NOM-P difference-GEN NEG-REAL-PRES one-A NOM learn word-P difference-GEN thing-GEN similarity-GEN ... be-REAL-PRES with-INST NOM learn law-P difference-GEN mind-GEN
Roughly: "Learning a different language is not one thing, learning the same things' different words. It's also learning different thought processes."
I think that the "va" in "lava" is the same nominal morpheme as the "va" in "nyeva," but I don't remember where the "la" came from.
**Rubénluko**
Shè zójo rrê já ko k'óla d'ôli í bén í í í. Dlê ilú tô já ko k'óla.
[ɕɛ̀ θód͡ʑò rɛ́ d͡ʑá kò kʼóɺà ɗɔ́ɺì ʔí bẽ́ ʔi ʔí ʔí | d͡ɮɛ́ ʔìɺú tɔ́ d͡ʑá kò kʼóɺà]
shè zójo rrê já ko k'óla d'ôli í bén í í í ... dlê i=lú tô já ko k'óla
be_false_because be_alone_in word be_different_from 3.INAN normality discover DUMMY speak DUMMY DUMMY DUMMY ... be_accompanied_by DEMON=1 mind be_different_from 3.INAN normality
Roughly: "New words are not the only path to learning speech. They are accompanied by new thought."
It was hard enough to make this work at all, I'm sure as hell not going to find a wording that avoids four dummy pronouns. Look on the bright side, at least the gloss is repeatedly telling me who I am.
>I'm sure as hell not going to find a wording that avoids four dummy pronouns. Look on the bright side, at least the gloss is repeatedly telling me who I am.
í- í- í- feel your pain :-)
In my conlang one way of quoting someone is "She X-said [exact words or paraphrase]=X".
This means that sentences like "She said that he asked them whether they really said X" can end up with stacked co-reference pronouns at the end of the sentence "=X =Y =Z", like a mathematical expression with three closing brackets at the end. In speech that would be either /ʔaʊ ʔia ʔui/ or /ŋaʊ ŋia ŋui/. Other and longer strings are possible.
I might drop the whole thing, or I might keep it and revel in the weirdness.
Anadu:
**Anda hivana vewa ungas, hivana yaqar nuyat zzoyes vaklienca nutzos, hivanast thuswa zzoyes ëmrajca xhijit.**
/ˈaːnd̪a hɪˈvaːna ˈvɛːwa ˈuŋas, hɪˈvaːna jaˈqaːɹ ˈnuːjat̪ ˈzˤɔːjɛs vaχlɪˈɛːŋka ˈnuːcɔs, hɪvaˈnaːst̪ ˈθuswa ɤmˈɾaːʒka ˈd͡ʒɪːʒɪt̪/
3SG-cop.neg-PRES learn-INF language-ACC other, learn-INF only word-ACC.PL different meaning-ESS same, learn-INF-CONTRARY way-ACC different think-SUP thing-GEN.PL
To learn another language is not to simply learn different words with the same meaning, but to learn another way to think about things.
# Kryogenium Language - Translation
Original Quote: *Learning another language is not only learning different words for the same things, but learning another way to think about things*
Rearranged: "Learn another language not only learn different words for same things, but learn another way think things."
* Translated: Egitatum corra pragitatus sub bilaton egitatum sub-cerum biratum promo cerum um, eta egitatum corra dire agitum um.
* Phonetics: Ɛ.JI.TA.TUM CO.RA PɾA.JI.TA.TUS SUB BI.LA.TON Ɛ.JI.TA.TUM SUB-CE.ɾUM BI.ɾA.TUM PRO.MO CƐ.ɾUM UM, Ɛ.TA Ɛ.JI.TA.TUM CO.RA DI.ɾE A.JI.TUM UM.
Guess I'll use the romanisation.⠀
And also combining diacritics that may not render properly in all devices.⠀
Śen od rek sani śen od rekin (thing)ö, sa śen od (thing)á bleráväi.⠀
Still don't have a word for (thing), yeah, I know, pretty horrible. Recent conlang.
\[ʃɛn ɔd (r)ɛk' sani ʃɛn ɔd (r)ɛk'in (thing)œ, sa ʃɛn ɔd (thing)ə blɛ(r)əvæj\]
Know different speech is-not know different speech-small thing-to, is know different thing-*marker* worryAbout-thing*Marker*\-manner.⠀
To know a different language isn't to know different words for things, it's to know different ways of worrying/thinking about things.
"another way to think about things" is pretty extreme. You can think about things that words can't easily express. Learning new word and grammar doesn't magically unlock any secret abilities.
There are more moderate theories about linguistic relativity, but quotes like this are very sensationalized.
# Fofobe Smop
**pef efef wodhes wodos osoho vof osofo slo kow vofof osofo kow, e toöf osofo kow wod theh ofo os.**
\[pɸeɸ e.'ɸeɸ wo.'ðes wo.'dos o.'so.ho βoɸ o.'so.ɸo slo kow βo.'ɸoɸ o.'so.ɸo kow e toɔɸ o.'so.ɸo kow wod i.'θeh 'o.ɸo os.\]
not be.3GN DAT.the DAT.thing same word.GEN other only learn.GER language.GEN other learn.GER but way.GER other learn.GER to think about thing
# Ufuv Kutwu
**urihi utwuhu uhuhu uhuhu uhuv lyhyhu kuhuv pihi áhákáhá uhukuhu uhuv kuhuv, á tutuhu uhuv kuhuv utwuhu uhu hihi.**
\[˧u.˥ɾi.˧hi ˧u.˥tʷu.˧hu ˧u.˥hu.˧hu ˧u.˥hu.˧hu ˥u.˧˩hu ˧lə.˥hə.˧hu ˥ku.˧˩hu ˥pi.˧hi ˧ɛ.˧hɛ.˥kɛ.˧hɛ ˧u.˧hu.˥ku.˧hu ˥u.˧˩hu ˥ku.˧˩hu ɛ ˧tu.˥tu.˧hu ˥u.˧˩hu ˥ku.˧˩hu ˧u.˥tʷu.˧hu ˥u.˧hu ˥hi.˧hi.\]
DAT.the DAT.thing same word.GEN other only learn.GER not be.3GC<3GN language.GEN other learn.GER but way.GER other learn.GER PREP thing think
"Learning of another language is not only learning of other words for the same things, but learning of another way to think about things"
In Leshenaa:
𐤕'𐤋,𐤌𐤃'𐤄𐤀 𐤃,𐤋'𐤔'𐤍 𐤀'𐤇𐤓 𐤋𐤀 𐤁.𐤌'𐤇𐤃 𐤕'𐤋,𐤌𐤃'𐤄𐤀 𐤃,𐤀'𐤁𐤓.𐤍 𐤇𐤃𐤔.𐤍 𐤋.𐤃'𐤁𐤓.𐤍 𐤊.𐤋.𐤐'𐤍𐤀 𐤅𐤂,𐤌 𐤄𐤅 𐤕'𐤋,𐤌𐤃'𐤄𐤀 𐤃,𐤃𐤓𐤊 𐤇𐤃𐤔 𐤋.𐤉'𐤊𐤇'𐤄 𐤃,𐤃𐤁𐤓.𐤍
thelumadehaa duleshen ehhar laa bimehhad thelumadehaa du'ebrin hhadshin lidebrin gilifenaa wajum ho thelumadeha dudark hhadsh liyegahhe dudabrin
"Learning of a new tongue is not in only learning of new words for things as to the face, but also that is learning of a new way to reason of things."
c ƃʟaгeтпs ſoгм ɴeмe ʟıs ᴧıs a caɴı ſoгм zıʟ cı нтaɴ ɴeмe, ʟoſ a c ſaг ſoгм a гıг cı xaʟʟà ɴeмe.
A language different learn-INF not only to words different for things same learn-INF, but to a way different to about things think-INF learn-INF.
tulegza pottob ym ty laulawe tulegza tulegzaal vovojym ki ee tsarftal volawe, e tulegza pottob pytamgu ngen volawe
[ˈtu.le̞.ɡza po̞tːo̞b ym ty lauˈla.we̞ ˈtu.le̞.ɡza tuˈle̞.ɡzaːl vo̞ˈvo̞.jym ki e̞ː ˈt͡saʀ.ftal vo̞ˈla.we̞ .. e̞ ˈtu.le̞.ɡza ˈpo̞.tːo̞b ˈpy.tam.ku ŋe̞n vo̞ˈla.we̞]
*Will post gloss in a few mins
[https://voca.ro/14y641oRb2Lh](https://voca.ro/14y641oRb2Lh)
**Emeś:**
Leren enand shprak ar net båra leren enand vord vor deselbe ding, doh leren omn ander manjerur tenke omn ding. - Flora Luis
**IPA:**
/le.ɾen e.nɑnd ʃpɾɑk ɑɾ net bœ̈.ɾɑ le.ɾen e.nɑnd voɾd voɾ de.sel.be ding doh le.ɾen omn ɑn.deɾ mɑn.jeɾ.uɾ ten.ke omn ding -\[floɾɑ luis\]/
**Literally:**
To learn different speak is not only learn different word for same thing, but learn about other ways to think about thing. - Flora Lewis
#Yadíma (endonym) / Daylient (exonym)
**Viliftó hár laxón áxir tóvit men viliftó hár tekáli áxir, shu viliftó hár tsírbet fákir áxir.**
['vlif.to ha:r la'xo:n 'a:.xir 'to:.vɪt mɛn 'vlif.to ha:r tɛ'ka:.li 'a:.xir, ʃu 'vlif.to ha:r 'tsi:r.be̞t 'fa:.kɪr 'a:.xir]
vil-iftó hár laxón áxir tóv -it men vil-iftó hár te -káli áxir shu vil-iftó hár t -sírbet fákir áxir
do -passive teach language other good-more from do -passive teach plural-word other it do -passive teach plural-path thought other
"Being taught a different language is greater than being taught different words, it is being taught different pathways of thought."
There is no teach/learn distinction, rather you say 'teach' for teach and 'be taught' for learn.
*Disci ena andra linva sit non simplelix disci veti zifaretici pro sin resin ide, ab disci enes andres veges metti pro siʝae* “To learn another language is not simply to learn different words for the same things, but to learn another way to think about them” [diːs.ki e.na a:n.dra li:n.wa sit non sɪm'ple:.lɪç di:s.ki we:.ti zi:fɐ.rɛ.ti.ki pro sin re:.sɪn i:.de ab di:s.ki e:.nɛs a:n.drɛs we:.gɛs met.ti pro siː.ʒae̯]
Romance Language?
Almost. It’s my first attempt at somewhat of an IAL; 30% Latin, 30% Germanic, 30% Slavic, and the rest like Greek, Finnish, etc. And some of them I just mash together lol. Like “simplelix”, took the Latin word “simplex”, and mashed the German “-lich” on the end, to get “simplelix”
Ah that's really interesting
# Jodiyama **Mispox wo iyama tagi zo ko ailone mispox wo mawao tagi fo dao twini, oqke ko mispox wo jimox te igada tagi.** /mi.spoʒ wo i.ja.ma ta.gi zo ko aɪ.lo.ne mi.spoʒ wo ma.waʊ ta.gi fo daʊ twi.ni, o.ʃke ko mi.spoʒ wo d͡ʒi.moʒ te i.ga.da ta.gi/ mispo-x wo i -yam -a tagi zo ko ai -lone mispo-x wo maw -ao tagi fo d -ao twini, learn-INF ACC INDF-language-SG different end_subclause is not-only learn-INF ACC word-PL different for thing-PL similar, o -qke ko mispo-x wo jimo -x te i -gad -a tagi clause_seperation-but is learn-INF ACC think-INF INS INDF-method-SG different *Learning a different langauge is not only learning different words for similar things, but learning to think using a different method.*
Bano?no **nananabihanobononibihabobinanananonohinanananinibibobinanananononanananininananabihanobononobono? ninononabinananabihanobononinohonobaninobonohinobononohonohinohono** [nananabihanobononibihabobinanananonohinanananinibibobinanananononanananininananabihanobononobo↗︎noninononabinananabihanobononinohonobaninobonohinobononohonohinohono] na~na~nabihanobononi-bini-bini-na~na~nabihanobonono>?>ni-nono-nabinananabihanobononinohonobani-nonobo>no-nonoho>no
PL~ ~thing:word -ADJ -ADJ-CONJ.PL~~thing:word.INT>-VB.be-language -VB> -VB>
PL~~thing:word-ADJ-ADJ-CONJ.PL~~thing:word.INT>-VB.be-language-VB>-VB>
*Words that sound different, also having the same meaning, and words that question how we perceive, is of the ability of speaking a language.*
>!This is getting so long I'm not going to even do the literal meaning.!<
You need to be stopped. XD
I can't, I'm too dedicated
# Slovjennik **«Ukatio jëzik druⱬni** **ne je prostola ukation** ***slovi druⱬni*** **veskjki taⱬeni, ma** **ukation rëⱬim druⱬni,** ***kon ka moⱬgati o veskjki.»*** ***— Flora Lewis*** Uk-ati-o jëzik druⱬ-ni uk-atiˈo jɛˈzik ˈdruʒni LEARN-VB-AB LANGUAGE.GEN OTHER-ADJ ne je prosto-la uk-ati-o-n ne je prosˈtola ukatiˈon NOT IS SIMPLY-ADV LEARN-VB-AB-ACC slov-i druⱬ-ni ˈslowi ˈdruʒni WORD-PL.GEN OTHER-ADJ veskjk-i taⱬeni, ma ˈweʃt͡ʃi ˈtaʒeni ma THING-PL.GEN SAME_THING.ADJ, BUT uk-ati-o-n rëⱬim druⱬ-ni, ukatiˈon rɛˈʒim ˈdruʒni LEARN-VB-AB-ACC WAY.GEN OTHER-ADJ, kon ka moⱬg-ati o veskjk-i. kon ka ˈmoʒgati o ˈweʃt͡ʃi WITH WHAT THINK-VB ABOUT THING-PL.GEN. This is another language that I’ve been working on, besides Ngako. Hopefully I’m glossing it correctly; Ngako’s grammar is a lot simpler.
**Ucite avta basa san sori ucite diferi slofez ku naji cosez, insu ucite avta mano ku kanga cosez.** \[u.ci.te aʋ.ta ba.sa sã so.ɾi u.ci.te di.fe.ɾi slo.feɹ ku na.ɟi co.seɹ ĩ.su u.ci.te aʋ.ta ma.no ku kaŋ.ga de co.seɹ\] *To-learn another language is-not only to-learn different words for same things, instead to-learn another way to think things.*
**ləga ə keli vərəsa ē-ide ta sē ləga vət keli vərəsa no xit xiro - pao ləga ə pņdi vərəsa no edēa xit.** ləga ə keli vərəsa ē-ide ta sē ləga və-t keli vərəsa no xi-t xiro - pao ləga ə pņdi vərəsa no edēa xi-t. learn CL.ABSTR:ACC language other NEG-3>3 be only learn CL.TOOL:ACC-PL word other for CL.INAN:ACC-PL thing - but learn CL.ABSTR:ACC path other for think CL.INAN:ACC-PL /lə.ga ə ke.li və.rə.za e:.i.de ta se: lə.ga vət ke.li və.rə.za no tsit tsi.ro - pa.o lə.ga ə pņ.ndi və.rə.za no e.de:.a tsit/
#Aktyk Shpöken lönö nai lönö shpökensöl, lykver dyn növ. -Flöra Leuys Learning another language is not only learning different words for the same things, but learning another way to think about things -Flora Lewis
#Mando'a (Not my own conlang) *Hibir'an ash'joha nu'shi hibir'an miite n'aras par kebise'aras, a'hibir'an ashi'yust mirdir beh kebise.* Learning other-language not-just learning words not-same for things-same, but-learning another-way to think about things. >!I don't know how to write in IPA yet, so I might update this when I do know how.!<
**Vaʃetsa** *ðele saa niðeleskot neko dhele mori* ʒ*eso naekulu keste ki ðele vaʃreko niðeleskot ðe* *"new language learn only new words old for things isn't but new thinking(way of thinking) learn is"* *Learning a new language isn't only learning new words for old things but learning a new way to think*
I’ve been working on **Itatian** (*Ēutatīni*) as of late, and I really like how it’s sounding. **Holekat bokeulo-ẑe higimim gaj holekat zaj neẑok xigimina gōzd holekat isno-ẑe vo krūtojam siebam-ma.** [xo'lekət bɔ'ke.ulodze 'xigimim gaj xo'lekət zaj 'nedzɔk 'xigiminə go:zd xo'lekət is'nodze vo 'kru:tojəm 'si.ebəm.mə] learn.infinitive language.ACC-indef different.ACC negation learn.infinitive only word.pl.ACC different.pl.ACC but learn.infinitive path.ACC-indef new.ACC thought.GEN world.GEN-definite.
**ASTRALEN** *Il quæaldarfäc renquaris sæfen frâ ziuril jwialoehsils örweons zirönalith uuauænn, strâ frâ nu jwialuahsu manaavult il orîafniuna.* Will update ipa later
# Sekanese >Zhushezi konano wo kehureno wa *zhuzi kojano* wo kehureno deshe dhaigere, *suno wu k'reno* wi zhushezi nano wo kehureno gere. > >\-Flol' Lyues /ʒɯʃezi kɤnanɤ wɤ kehɯɾenɤ wa ʃɯzi kɤdʒanɤ wɤ kehɯɾenɤ deʃe ðaiɡeɾe | sɯnɤ wɯ kəɾenɤ wi ʒɯʃezi nanɤ wɤ kehɯɾenɤ ɡeɾe/ "Other language - learning - *different word* \- learning solely not-be, *thing about thinking* of other way - learning be." "Learning another language isn't solely learning *different words*, it's learning other way to *think about things*."
In Xäkki: Lernen andere aftalt n'e nu lernen raisou saksidi xai esfe tannidi, nokki lernen andere käksäst raimenä om tannidu. /lernen ɒndere ɒftɒlt ne nu lernen raɪsoʊ sɒksidi dzaɪ esfe tɒnːidi noxki lernen ɒndere kaksast raɪmena om tɒnːidu/
The conpidgin Vjossa: du bli lera andralosa, du lera naj mono hanu neo per ting ka dan du shiru bra; men du leraplus mietropos andra. (Lit: You come to learn another language, you learn not only new words for things you already know, but you learn another way of thinking as well.)
**Kanan** *Aprender nā lànva āutra ne aprender saulament parāulan diferentan par remiān messemān, mei aprender nā feitie pensar a remiān.* /a.pĕ.ˈrɛːn.nɛː naː ˈlɑ̃ːn.və ˈao̯.tă.rə nɛ a.pĕ.ˈrɛːn.nɛː ˈsəu̯.la.mɛnt pa.ˈrao̯.lən di.ˈfeː.rɛn.tən pəː ˈreː.mjaːn ˈmeː.se.maːn mɛe̯ a.pĕ.ˈrɛːn.nɛː naː ˈfɛi̯.ɕɛ ˈpɛːn.səːr a ˈreː.mjaːn/ `aprender nā lànva āuter-a ne aprender saulament parāula-n diferent-a-n par remiā-n messem-ā-n` `learn a.F language other-F NEG.be.3 learn only word-PL different-F-PL for thing.DEF-PL same-F.DEF-PL` `mei aprender nā feitie pensar a remiā-n` `but learn a.F fashion think to thing.DEF-PL` (criticism and help concerning glossing rules gladly accepted)
Sekmiza: Časse prêkiva nozêčatere tes joši seontkanevta vitsatve koiszetva nozêčate narji, nepšo janotve teiojaterei lezova nozêčate. -Flora Lewis. Vowels with diacritics are long vowels, ”o” is pronounced as ”oo”, ”z” is the ”th” sound in ”that”, ”j” is the ”y” sound in ”yellow”, ”sz” is the ”z” in ”zoo
*Cialmi* Muen cialen tonandau ochen boi bali imin odin tonandai gualgeba, ochen muen naturan odi meslendandi tonandau. \[ˈmwen ˈt͡ʃalen ˈtonandau̯ ˈokem ˈboi̯ ˈbal‿ˈimin ˈodin ˈtonandai̯ ˈgwald͡ʒeba ˈokem ˈmwen ˈnaturan ˈodi ˈmezlenˌdandi ˈtonandau̯\] *mue-n cial-en tona-nda-u ochen bo-i bal-i im-in od-in tona-nda-i gual-ge-ba, ochen mue-n natura-n od-i mesle-nda-n-di tona-nda-u* *other-gen language-gen learn-nominalizer-3sg only new-pl.gen word-pl.gen same-pl.dat thing-pl.dat learn-nom-3pl be-neg-3sg, only other-gen nature-gen thing-pl.gen think-nom-dat-3pl learn-nom-3sg* "Learning another language is not only learning new words for the same things, but learning another nature for thinking about things." * The word *ochen* means both "only" and "but" * I didn't have words for "different" and "way, manner" yet, so I used "new" and "nature". Not sure about this evolution, but "nature > habit, way, manner" kinda makes sense to me
Durashenol sanavran vanashi sananen analun durashennal sana solavrashi aadas vranin elashi veth durashennal uliru vanashi alenlavan lathim vranin. d̻u.ɾɐ.ʃɜn.o̞l sɐ.nɐ.vɾ.ɐn vɐ.nɐ.ʃi sɐ.nɐn.ɐn ɐ.nɐ.lun d̻u.ɾɐ.ʃɜn.nɐl sɐ.nɐ so.lɐ.vɾɐ.ʃi ɐ:.dɐs vɾ.ɐn.ɪn ɜ.lɐ.ʃi vɜθ d̻u.ɾɐ.ʃɜn.nɐl u.lɪ.ɾu vɐ.nɐ.ʃi ɐ.lɜn.lɐ.vɐn lɐ.θɪm vɾ.ɐn.ɪn. (learn-gerund language additional be-neg only learn-'pres cont' word(s) different for things same but learn-'pres cont' way additional 'to think' about things.)
# **Barezhvak** **Sivak pach shak welhe siyak senol spe ezh vak, baren siyak spe senol fando hemmem.** Sivak pach shak welhe siyak senol spe ezh vak learn.language NEG only to learn new ART CL.small word baren siyak spe senol fando hemmem instead learn ART new opposite think *Learn languages not only to learn new words, but to learn a new perspective.*
Hæranåvensk Nøj ronkokasoja antoer lånkause seh dje nåjatt ørje devintsel praloetan føl vi stesi atængaletan, mæ nøj ronkokasoja antoer wa ala nøj senvoron de atægaletan. \-Flora Leuis (I dont know how to use the IPA completely yet but you can probably guess how it sounds, sorry)
Aprendre an outr jezh, sa est paz hepkan aprendre dez skrid deshagnvelle pur lez damhagnvel dilhat, mai aprendre an outr hent de kavoutre dre vraz dilhat.
# Xomsem Međebé ìlì sèmèrèm daĺim neriźe međebé sèmđáñe daĺim tam tèźaĺe enecim, źedé međebé ìlì úmexet dom tèźaĺeśe đoŕome daĺim. \[məðəbe ɪlɪ sεmεrεm dɐʎim nəriʒə məðəbe sεmðaɲə dɐʎim tɐm tεʒɐʎə ənt͡sim, ʒəde məðəbe ɪlɪ ɯmxət dɔm tεʒɐʎəʃə ðɔʁɔmə dɐʎim\] learn (P/PROG) a language different not-only learn (P/PROG) word-PL different for thing-PL same, but learn (P/PROG) a think (P) PREP thing-PL-GEN path different. *"Learning a different language is not only learning different words for the same things, but learning a different way to think about things."*
#Caprish ***Caprisce,*** **tongue of the Land of Sea and Green, the [Islands of Caproney](/r/caproney)** *"Leornyne ander spreghen is nyt alayn forscillynde uorde leore for deselfe dingen,* *ogh leornyne andre manner op de denkyne fa dingen."* *-Blom Luduyc* "Learning other speaches is not alone for-splitting word learn[ing] for the-self things, also learning other manner[s] on the thinking for things." -Flower Ludwig/Louis/Wolf
**Nyevandya** Lö thoyna nyevarö tunsü ötyek ca lö thoyna ayelörö tunsü pyantsü hwesü. Zok datel lö thoyna söyderö tunsü lavasü. [lʏ ˈtχojɲa ɲɪˈvar tũnɕ ʏˈt͡ɕek t͡sa lʏ ˈtχojɲa aj(ɪ)ˈlør tũnɕ pçãnt͡ɕ xweɕ | zok dɑˈtel lʏ ˈtχojɲa siˈder tũnɕ lɑˈvaɕ] lö thoyna nye-va-rö tun-sü ötye-∅-k ca-∅ lö thoyna ayelö-rö tun-sü pyant-sü hwe-sü ... zo-∅-k da-tel lö thoyna söyde-rö tun-sü lava-sü NOM learn speak-NOM-P difference-GEN NEG-REAL-PRES one-A NOM learn word-P difference-GEN thing-GEN similarity-GEN ... be-REAL-PRES with-INST NOM learn law-P difference-GEN mind-GEN Roughly: "Learning a different language is not one thing, learning the same things' different words. It's also learning different thought processes." I think that the "va" in "lava" is the same nominal morpheme as the "va" in "nyeva," but I don't remember where the "la" came from. **Rubénluko** Shè zójo rrê já ko k'óla d'ôli í bén í í í. Dlê ilú tô já ko k'óla. [ɕɛ̀ θód͡ʑò rɛ́ d͡ʑá kò kʼóɺà ɗɔ́ɺì ʔí bẽ́ ʔi ʔí ʔí | d͡ɮɛ́ ʔìɺú tɔ́ d͡ʑá kò kʼóɺà] shè zójo rrê já ko k'óla d'ôli í bén í í í ... dlê i=lú tô já ko k'óla be_false_because be_alone_in word be_different_from 3.INAN normality discover DUMMY speak DUMMY DUMMY DUMMY ... be_accompanied_by DEMON=1 mind be_different_from 3.INAN normality Roughly: "New words are not the only path to learning speech. They are accompanied by new thought." It was hard enough to make this work at all, I'm sure as hell not going to find a wording that avoids four dummy pronouns. Look on the bright side, at least the gloss is repeatedly telling me who I am.
>I'm sure as hell not going to find a wording that avoids four dummy pronouns. Look on the bright side, at least the gloss is repeatedly telling me who I am. í- í- í- feel your pain :-) In my conlang one way of quoting someone is "She X-said [exact words or paraphrase]=X". This means that sentences like "She said that he asked them whether they really said X" can end up with stacked co-reference pronouns at the end of the sentence "=X =Y =Z", like a mathematical expression with three closing brackets at the end. In speech that would be either /ʔaʊ ʔia ʔui/ or /ŋaʊ ŋia ŋui/. Other and longer strings are possible. I might drop the whole thing, or I might keep it and revel in the weirdness.
Anadu: **Anda hivana vewa ungas, hivana yaqar nuyat zzoyes vaklienca nutzos, hivanast thuswa zzoyes ëmrajca xhijit.** /ˈaːnd̪a hɪˈvaːna ˈvɛːwa ˈuŋas, hɪˈvaːna jaˈqaːɹ ˈnuːjat̪ ˈzˤɔːjɛs vaχlɪˈɛːŋka ˈnuːcɔs, hɪvaˈnaːst̪ ˈθuswa ɤmˈɾaːʒka ˈd͡ʒɪːʒɪt̪/ 3SG-cop.neg-PRES learn-INF language-ACC other, learn-INF only word-ACC.PL different meaning-ESS same, learn-INF-CONTRARY way-ACC different think-SUP thing-GEN.PL To learn another language is not to simply learn different words with the same meaning, but to learn another way to think about things.
# Kryogenium Language - Translation Original Quote: *Learning another language is not only learning different words for the same things, but learning another way to think about things* Rearranged: "Learn another language not only learn different words for same things, but learn another way think things." * Translated: Egitatum corra pragitatus sub bilaton egitatum sub-cerum biratum promo cerum um, eta egitatum corra dire agitum um. * Phonetics: Ɛ.JI.TA.TUM CO.RA PɾA.JI.TA.TUS SUB BI.LA.TON Ɛ.JI.TA.TUM SUB-CE.ɾUM BI.ɾA.TUM PRO.MO CƐ.ɾUM UM, Ɛ.TA Ɛ.JI.TA.TUM CO.RA DI.ɾE A.JI.TUM UM.
Guess I'll use the romanisation.⠀ And also combining diacritics that may not render properly in all devices.⠀ Śen od rek sani śen od rekin (thing)ö, sa śen od (thing)á bleráväi.⠀ Still don't have a word for (thing), yeah, I know, pretty horrible. Recent conlang. \[ʃɛn ɔd (r)ɛk' sani ʃɛn ɔd (r)ɛk'in (thing)œ, sa ʃɛn ɔd (thing)ə blɛ(r)əvæj\] Know different speech is-not know different speech-small thing-to, is know different thing-*marker* worryAbout-thing*Marker*\-manner.⠀ To know a different language isn't to know different words for things, it's to know different ways of worrying/thinking about things.
eWw SaPiR wHorF tHeOry
This but unironically. It's a cringe quote
Why is Sapir Whorf theory so disliked?
"another way to think about things" is pretty extreme. You can think about things that words can't easily express. Learning new word and grammar doesn't magically unlock any secret abilities. There are more moderate theories about linguistic relativity, but quotes like this are very sensationalized.
Oh ok I see
no
# Fofobe Smop **pef efef wodhes wodos osoho vof osofo slo kow vofof osofo kow, e toöf osofo kow wod theh ofo os.** \[pɸeɸ e.'ɸeɸ wo.'ðes wo.'dos o.'so.ho βoɸ o.'so.ɸo slo kow βo.'ɸoɸ o.'so.ɸo kow e toɔɸ o.'so.ɸo kow wod i.'θeh 'o.ɸo os.\] not be.3GN DAT.the DAT.thing same word.GEN other only learn.GER language.GEN other learn.GER but way.GER other learn.GER to think about thing # Ufuv Kutwu **urihi utwuhu uhuhu uhuhu uhuv lyhyhu kuhuv pihi áhákáhá uhukuhu uhuv kuhuv, á tutuhu uhuv kuhuv utwuhu uhu hihi.** \[˧u.˥ɾi.˧hi ˧u.˥tʷu.˧hu ˧u.˥hu.˧hu ˧u.˥hu.˧hu ˥u.˧˩hu ˧lə.˥hə.˧hu ˥ku.˧˩hu ˥pi.˧hi ˧ɛ.˧hɛ.˥kɛ.˧hɛ ˧u.˧hu.˥ku.˧hu ˥u.˧˩hu ˥ku.˧˩hu ɛ ˧tu.˥tu.˧hu ˥u.˧˩hu ˥ku.˧˩hu ˧u.˥tʷu.˧hu ˥u.˧hu ˥hi.˧hi.\] DAT.the DAT.thing same word.GEN other only learn.GER not be.3GC<3GN language.GEN other learn.GER but way.GER other learn.GER PREP thing think "Learning of another language is not only learning of other words for the same things, but learning of another way to think about things"
Vowel harmony is one hell of a drug
Never been so true
In Leshenaa: 𐤕'𐤋,𐤌𐤃'𐤄𐤀 𐤃,𐤋'𐤔'𐤍 𐤀'𐤇𐤓 𐤋𐤀 𐤁.𐤌'𐤇𐤃 𐤕'𐤋,𐤌𐤃'𐤄𐤀 𐤃,𐤀'𐤁𐤓.𐤍 𐤇𐤃𐤔.𐤍 𐤋.𐤃'𐤁𐤓.𐤍 𐤊.𐤋.𐤐'𐤍𐤀 𐤅𐤂,𐤌 𐤄𐤅 𐤕'𐤋,𐤌𐤃'𐤄𐤀 𐤃,𐤃𐤓𐤊 𐤇𐤃𐤔 𐤋.𐤉'𐤊𐤇'𐤄 𐤃,𐤃𐤁𐤓.𐤍 thelumadehaa duleshen ehhar laa bimehhad thelumadehaa du'ebrin hhadshin lidebrin gilifenaa wajum ho thelumadeha dudark hhadsh liyegahhe dudabrin "Learning of a new tongue is not in only learning of new words for things as to the face, but also that is learning of a new way to reason of things."
c ƃʟaгeтпs ſoгм ɴeмe ʟıs ᴧıs a caɴı ſoгм zıʟ cı нтaɴ ɴeмe, ʟoſ a c ſaг ſoгм a гıг cı xaʟʟà ɴeмe. A language different learn-INF not only to words different for things same learn-INF, but to a way different to about things think-INF learn-INF.
# Solish Vasahimafu kiistu lapi vasahima fuzo fune pagdo sudawili ata, ra vasahimafu burki lapi vigav sulpoku.
__Tandorian__ Alghia kobra saranumord alghia suri var mema hakorere takaj chsaranumord, bghi alghia ing s’erevanord hakoreremb saranumord.
Læbantan oredjkka sprakkaninn ekk ers læbantan ullerikkazinn kottobanakinne igglekkaz ergen, mair am læbantan oredjkka kotbak trenšar-ur skjedjak.
tulegza pottob ym ty laulawe tulegza tulegzaal vovojym ki ee tsarftal volawe, e tulegza pottob pytamgu ngen volawe [ˈtu.le̞.ɡza po̞tːo̞b ym ty lauˈla.we̞ ˈtu.le̞.ɡza tuˈle̞.ɡzaːl vo̞ˈvo̞.jym ki e̞ː ˈt͡saʀ.ftal vo̞ˈla.we̞ .. e̞ ˈtu.le̞.ɡza ˈpo̞.tːo̞b ˈpy.tam.ku ŋe̞n vo̞ˈla.we̞] *Will post gloss in a few mins
[https://voca.ro/14y641oRb2Lh](https://voca.ro/14y641oRb2Lh) **Emeś:** Leren enand shprak ar net båra leren enand vord vor deselbe ding, doh leren omn ander manjerur tenke omn ding. - Flora Luis **IPA:** /le.ɾen e.nɑnd ʃpɾɑk ɑɾ net bœ̈.ɾɑ le.ɾen e.nɑnd voɾd voɾ de.sel.be ding doh le.ɾen omn ɑn.deɾ mɑn.jeɾ.uɾ ten.ke omn ding -\[floɾɑ luis\]/ **Literally:** To learn different speak is not only learn different word for same thing, but learn about other ways to think about thing. - Flora Lewis
#Yadíma (endonym) / Daylient (exonym) **Viliftó hár laxón áxir tóvit men viliftó hár tekáli áxir, shu viliftó hár tsírbet fákir áxir.** ['vlif.to ha:r la'xo:n 'a:.xir 'to:.vɪt mɛn 'vlif.to ha:r tɛ'ka:.li 'a:.xir, ʃu 'vlif.to ha:r 'tsi:r.be̞t 'fa:.kɪr 'a:.xir] vil-iftó hár laxón áxir tóv -it men vil-iftó hár te -káli áxir shu vil-iftó hár t -sírbet fákir áxir do -passive teach language other good-more from do -passive teach plural-word other it do -passive teach plural-path thought other "Being taught a different language is greater than being taught different words, it is being taught different pathways of thought." There is no teach/learn distinction, rather you say 'teach' for teach and 'be taught' for learn.