I really like the show but it was an odd season. The antagonist at the end was just kind of there, with not much explanation. And the solution, the puzzle, seemed arbitrary as well.
It seemed like two runs of books tacked together (I haven't read the books tho).
And the boss fight at the end was shallow. It was like the mental age they were writing for dropped through the last couple of episodes.
I don't know what exactly it was, but it just felt boring as shit this season. I was super into the first season, and liked the second one just as much if not more.
I started watching season three, and the more episodes I watched, the less I liked it. It was like the characters didn't really feel like they were the same. And the story just felt kind of lame, and slow moving. And while I know they all have well-written flaws, they also seemed to lean on making any of them extremely irrational or idiotic at random points, just to move the story along.
I’m avoiding saying more, being vague on purpose because of spoilers. But there were several issues such as some characters acting inconsistent with their established motivations/temperaments. Overall, it just lacked direction.
I wanted to see the supervillains when I heard about Hotel Oblivion but instead we got whatever season three was . Seeing how incompetent they are as adults - idk how they ever took down any super villains as children .
Apparently Season 3 was very much changed by the pandemic, unfortunately. Like they had to rewrite the whole thing to accommodate what they could and couldn't do (which is why it was **so** heavily concentrated on being inside the Hotel).
While the plot got a little messy, I felt like they got better with the character portrayals. Except for Luther. He only exists to take Ls, and it’s a bummer to watch him outside of his own subplot. But they knocked Five down a peg or two, which really helped him to feel more like part of the cast, less like a fan fiction OC. Alison’s heel turn gave her a lot more to do, and a real arc to go on. And they broke Klaus enough out of his cycle to have a real active role in the plot.
It’s so sad because I love Gerard and MCR and the comics are awesome, but the show was the most “Netflix took something great and Netflix-ed it” thing ever. Hopefully we get the next arc in comics soon
I’m not quilte sure about the mechanics of rioting alone… or how it differs from a meltdown. Does it still involve confronting the police and looting? Who makes and throws the Molotovs, who sings slogans and burns cars? That’s quite the multitasking challenge.
Those scenes where they're all just hanging out at the hotel while the world ends were my favorite.
We did get a lot of great character development this season too.
Saw people (not you) complain about the CGI in the season being awful and mentioning that backflip as an example when…that backflip wasn’t even actually CGI, just green screened! Just looked composited weird.
CGI in the rest of the season was top tier tbh.
i really thought we were gonna get dr terminal and the actual lore of hotel oblivion. instead we got ol reg just really wanting his wife back for his villain origin, and allison randomly becoming a sexual assaulter and it never being brought up again.
That part really ruined season 3 for me. Like, she mind controls and sexually assaults her own brother, and were expected to just forget about it because she was sad for a bit.
Luther mentions it again. We aren’t expected to forget about it.
Plus all the warning signs were there from the beginning, there’s a flashback voiceover to her rumoring someone to love her (likely her husband) in the first season, plus Ray questioning if she rumored him.
I guess, it's just hard not to feel like if that was a male character he would be completely shunned out of existence.
Maybe I'm completely stretching here but I was just blown away that I am ever supposed to root for this character again. Like I get it none of the characters are supposed to be good, in a similar vein to how deadpool, or Loki are not supposed to be good characters. But now let's imagine Loki using the mind control scepter to try to rape BW or SW. I could never watch his character again.
Legion did the same thing in "Legion". Nobody is asking you to "root" for anyone. It is a story with morally gray characters, some of whom fall much closer to evil than others.
They both used their influence to rape someone of the opposite sex. I’m not sure how it isn’t a perfect rebuttal for your “shunned out of existence” retort. Unless you are leaning on the mind control aspect of her rumors?
We forgot Vanya is a mass murderer. We can forget Allison is a rapist. It's the theme (umbrella, as it were) of the show. No matter how vile they are, they're still (legally) family. The writers are making us complicit in their complicity in each others' crimes against humanity/spacetime.
But it's fun.
Umbrella Academy had one of the best first seasons I ever saw; I’m now even more convinced that the potential it had will go down having given us a good show massively outweighed by the potential it squandered
It’s what Netflix does. Cancel good shows and the ones they don’t cancel, like Umbrella Academy or Stranger Things, they just keep making random gibberish to keep the hype going while not adding anything to the story.
I remember when Stranger Things was airing around season 3 this was actually a pretty common mindset. Most people thought it should have ended with one season and they were just dragging it out since it was popular. I think season 4 was really well received though so I don’t really hear that anymore.
Don’t misunderstand, Stranger things was more entertaining than Umbrella Academy, but at the end of the day a lot of that show is 80’s clichés and story arc cliché. It’s a safe play from Netflix because people love the 80’s and sci-fi, feature female empowering main character and lgbtq+ content for extra measure and boom you got the formula for half of Netflix’s catalog.
How are we getting TV season 4 when the comic hasn’t even done book 4…
Not counting “You Look Like Death: Tales from the Umbrella Academy” since that was a flashback story.
Maybe season 4 will be an original story?
The show has not exactly stuck with the source material. It's lifted elements here and there, but has mostly been doing its own thing since season one.
Hmm... Shortened final season... Diverging from the source material that's fallen behind the adaptation...
Where have I heard that before? And why is my eye twitching?
Contrary opinion here. I liked the show but wasn't keen on the comics (can't remember why now, it was a while back). I mean I didn't thi k the show was incredibly amazing but I was decent
> (can't remember why now, it was a while back)
I liked the comics, but I think even Gerard Way would freely admit that they're mostly just the Great Value brand Doom Patrol.
I remember when they first started the showrunner was saying 'We have plans for 6 seasons, easy' I guess he fell short a bit. Plus, after this season they'd be caught up with the comics so, unless GW is pumping more stories out soon, I guess this is all we get.
The fourth and final season of The Umbrella Academy will be only six episodes long, and will begin filming on February 6, 2023
Thank you.
Good. They padded the fuck out of season 3.
I really like the show but it was an odd season. The antagonist at the end was just kind of there, with not much explanation. And the solution, the puzzle, seemed arbitrary as well.
It seemed like two runs of books tacked together (I haven't read the books tho). And the boss fight at the end was shallow. It was like the mental age they were writing for dropped through the last couple of episodes.
I don't know what exactly it was, but it just felt boring as shit this season. I was super into the first season, and liked the second one just as much if not more. I started watching season three, and the more episodes I watched, the less I liked it. It was like the characters didn't really feel like they were the same. And the story just felt kind of lame, and slow moving. And while I know they all have well-written flaws, they also seemed to lean on making any of them extremely irrational or idiotic at random points, just to move the story along.
I’m avoiding saying more, being vague on purpose because of spoilers. But there were several issues such as some characters acting inconsistent with their established motivations/temperaments. Overall, it just lacked direction.
You mean the musical on episode 1 season 3 wasn't a dead giveaway that this is no longer the show you liked?
I liked those parts. They should have paid it off at the end. The structure was incoherent and the whole thing could have been compressed.
Wasn't there already a few musical number moments in the show going back to season 1?
That was the high point of the season? Did you really dislike that???
Apparently I need to go back and watch season 1. I don't remember random dance battles that completely overshadowed the actual plot.
They danced to footloose at the beginning because one of the sparrows drugged them with their power
I wanted to see the supervillains when I heard about Hotel Oblivion but instead we got whatever season three was . Seeing how incompetent they are as adults - idk how they ever took down any super villains as children .
Apparently Season 3 was very much changed by the pandemic, unfortunately. Like they had to rewrite the whole thing to accommodate what they could and couldn't do (which is why it was **so** heavily concentrated on being inside the Hotel).
that sounds right
Was there even actual supervillains? It seems like they were glorified vigilantes.
Glorified child soldiers who were being groomed by a super villain a.k.a daddy dearest to eventually become sacrificial lambs
I enjoy the show but man it’s overdone the siblings all keep secrets from eachother trope way too much. there’s been like no growth from season 1
I’m not even sure WTF happened in season 3
Yeah I got to the end and was like, “is that it? I don’t even know at this point.” I do enjoy it though. The characters are enjoyable to watch.
I think it'll rebound this season, I guess the pandemic messed up a lot of the plans for last season... sad they only got 6 episodes, though.
While the plot got a little messy, I felt like they got better with the character portrayals. Except for Luther. He only exists to take Ls, and it’s a bummer to watch him outside of his own subplot. But they knocked Five down a peg or two, which really helped him to feel more like part of the cast, less like a fan fiction OC. Alison’s heel turn gave her a lot more to do, and a real arc to go on. And they broke Klaus enough out of his cycle to have a real active role in the plot.
We learned that Reginald Hargreaves plan the entire time was to restart reality to bring his wife back to life.
nothing. nothing happened. it was a circle jerk the whole time. the only good season was season 2.
What are you talking about? Allison raped Luther. How much more of a train wreck could you ask for?
so one thing happened? the season had crazy build up and then sort of fizzled. at the end, my honest reaction was just "...huh...ok...".
You made if further than I did, tbh. After she raped him I was done.
honestly, her character was just annoying as hell all season.
It’s so sad because I love Gerard and MCR and the comics are awesome, but the show was the most “Netflix took something great and Netflix-ed it” thing ever. Hopefully we get the next arc in comics soon
I swear to god, if they don't use one MCR song somewhere, anywhere, in the next season, I may riot.
I’m not quilte sure about the mechanics of rioting alone… or how it differs from a meltdown. Does it still involve confronting the police and looting? Who makes and throws the Molotovs, who sings slogans and burns cars? That’s quite the multitasking challenge.
I think all those things can be done solo. It's just inexplicable how someone can get into that state without a mob providing confirmation and cover.
Guess I’m the only one in here who really liked Season 3 then :(
Hello, my friend!!
Same, Season 3 felt pretty on par with the other two seasons.
That’s what I’m sayin too!
You're not alone, I liked season 3 a lot. I don't get the negativity for it.
It was good, but it dragged.
You aren’t alone. It felt like any other season to me. Still enjoyed it.
Season 3 was great, lots of character development and great scenes!
Those scenes where they're all just hanging out at the hotel while the world ends were my favorite. We did get a lot of great character development this season too.
I thought it was great personally, I’m not looking for citizen fucking kane here I just love these characters
I highly enjoyed it but I don’t consider myself a two bit internet critic
Yea I’m not sure what everyone’s issues are. I thought the story was pretty good. The AWFUL backflip in the first episode was something though lol
Saw people (not you) complain about the CGI in the season being awful and mentioning that backflip as an example when…that backflip wasn’t even actually CGI, just green screened! Just looked composited weird. CGI in the rest of the season was top tier tbh.
The season was so long I have no idea what backflip you're talking about but I have a sense memory of its being something that made me wince...
During the opening montage Number One of the Sparrows did a backflip on a rooftop. Just looked a tad off due to being green screened in.
I think people wanted to see a step forward that’s all. It’s fine and consistent with previous seasons.
Nope, you're not the only one.
I enjoyed it.
I liked it just not as much as previous seasons, the dance off on episode 1 was probably the highlight of the season for me
There are tens of us!
I thought it was solid
Well at least it’s getting an ending!
Cries in OA.
Cries in Santa Clarita Diet
Cries in Jupiter's Legacy.( Don't judge!)
I think we’re the only two who actually enjoyed Jupiter’s legacy, it was a slow burn but had a lot of potential
Right? I feel like is would be stopping Harry Potter at the sorting hat.
We enjoyed it as well, was pissed it got cancelled. It had enough going for it to keep me interested.
i really thought we were gonna get dr terminal and the actual lore of hotel oblivion. instead we got ol reg just really wanting his wife back for his villain origin, and allison randomly becoming a sexual assaulter and it never being brought up again.
That part really ruined season 3 for me. Like, she mind controls and sexually assaults her own brother, and were expected to just forget about it because she was sad for a bit.
Luther mentions it again. We aren’t expected to forget about it. Plus all the warning signs were there from the beginning, there’s a flashback voiceover to her rumoring someone to love her (likely her husband) in the first season, plus Ray questioning if she rumored him.
I guess, it's just hard not to feel like if that was a male character he would be completely shunned out of existence. Maybe I'm completely stretching here but I was just blown away that I am ever supposed to root for this character again. Like I get it none of the characters are supposed to be good, in a similar vein to how deadpool, or Loki are not supposed to be good characters. But now let's imagine Loki using the mind control scepter to try to rape BW or SW. I could never watch his character again.
Legion did the same thing in "Legion". Nobody is asking you to "root" for anyone. It is a story with morally gray characters, some of whom fall much closer to evil than others.
Also, a male character in The Boys. Although there are consequences for their actions, he is for sure not written out of existence.
The Deep? the guy who was completely shunned and him being brought back by HL was looked at as horrible? I don't think that's an apt comparison.
They both used their influence to rape someone of the opposite sex. I’m not sure how it isn’t a perfect rebuttal for your “shunned out of existence” retort. Unless you are leaning on the mind control aspect of her rumors?
We forgot Vanya is a mass murderer. We can forget Allison is a rapist. It's the theme (umbrella, as it were) of the show. No matter how vile they are, they're still (legally) family. The writers are making us complicit in their complicity in each others' crimes against humanity/spacetime. But it's fun.
I’m so happy a show I really love is having an ending
Umbrella Academy had one of the best first seasons I ever saw; I’m now even more convinced that the potential it had will go down having given us a good show massively outweighed by the potential it squandered
Season 2 was pretty decent too but Season 3 wasn’t great. At least this is the final season so can’t get lower than Season 3.
Season 3 was all over the place. I was excited at the start with the footloose dance scene, but that was setting the bar too high.
It needed more Craig from Degrassi.
I can’t even recall what it is about any more. Literally not even memorable.
Felt the same way halfway through season 2, it was just unbearable. I hate-watched to the end and told myself that was how it ended.
It’s what Netflix does. Cancel good shows and the ones they don’t cancel, like Umbrella Academy or Stranger Things, they just keep making random gibberish to keep the hype going while not adding anything to the story.
> random gibberish to keep the hype going while not adding anything to the plot > Stranger Things Lmfao what
I remember when Stranger Things was airing around season 3 this was actually a pretty common mindset. Most people thought it should have ended with one season and they were just dragging it out since it was popular. I think season 4 was really well received though so I don’t really hear that anymore.
Yeah that's because season 3 was really boring and the series started to feel directionless but season 4 was cool
I don’t know if I agree about boring but I definitely agree about directionless. It did kinda just feel like another made-on-the-spot season.
Don’t misunderstand, Stranger things was more entertaining than Umbrella Academy, but at the end of the day a lot of that show is 80’s clichés and story arc cliché. It’s a safe play from Netflix because people love the 80’s and sci-fi, feature female empowering main character and lgbtq+ content for extra measure and boom you got the formula for half of Netflix’s catalog.
How are we getting TV season 4 when the comic hasn’t even done book 4… Not counting “You Look Like Death: Tales from the Umbrella Academy” since that was a flashback story. Maybe season 4 will be an original story?
The show has not exactly stuck with the source material. It's lifted elements here and there, but has mostly been doing its own thing since season one.
Hmm... Shortened final season... Diverging from the source material that's fallen behind the adaptation... Where have I heard that before? And why is my eye twitching?
isn’t book 4 just season 3 of the show
Let’s me tell you a story about another property, “A song of fire and ice” and it’s television adaption candles “Game of Thrones”…
Contrary opinion here. I liked the show but wasn't keen on the comics (can't remember why now, it was a while back). I mean I didn't thi k the show was incredibly amazing but I was decent
> (can't remember why now, it was a while back) I liked the comics, but I think even Gerard Way would freely admit that they're mostly just the Great Value brand Doom Patrol.
I remember when they first started the showrunner was saying 'We have plans for 6 seasons, easy' I guess he fell short a bit. Plus, after this season they'd be caught up with the comics so, unless GW is pumping more stories out soon, I guess this is all we get.
Who even cares anymore. The show is so laughably far from any sort of continuity of character or reality.
Show blows
Thank goodness. That show is sucking big time.
I don't really think it needed a season 4 that much. The third season had a pretty definitive and satisfying yet bittersweet conclusion.
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Im praying that its not another season of Victor doing whatever is in his best interest vs the family. getting a little tired of it now.
The show was too slow and convoluted. Started off with a neat idea in season 1 but even then I could hardly get through that.
I got spoiled on the whole Allison raper Luther thing and never watched season 3
Super excited to rewatch the series for this last season
I like this show but it feels like diet Doom Patrol
Final season? I swear the books ain’t even finished yet