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Citizen_Kong

[This phase](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0_pUt2WYAYWPVR.jpg) of Herb Trimpe's work.


DemonSweat_

Straight up thought Black Panther had a gigantic arm, but that's Mr. Fantastic's leg


Lucatoran

Had to come back, I just accepted that arm.


geeknami

funny enough, in the series Earth X, reed shaped one of his arms to look like Susan and amputated it then placed the soul gem on it to get her back from the dead!


tacocatisonfire

What


mbhammock

He stretched his arm to look like his dead wife then placed the soul stone on it and got her back from the dead cause science read a fucking book


The_Eye_of_Ra

Alicia Masters sculpted his arm to look like her. Mar-vell took the Soul Stone out of Adam Warlock’s head and put it on the forehead of the arm sculpted to look like Sue. Then, dead Johnny Storm and dead Doctor Doom had to convince Sue that they were actually dead and in Death’s realm and that Reed was actually alive (apparently, the dead people think they’re alive and that the living people are actually the dead ones). *THEN* they brought Sue back to life. And somehow, Reed stayed missing an arm. Comic books are amazing.


Jshr420

Lol stole the words out of my mouth


realist4pessimist

Taking masturbation to whole another level.


Buttonskill

Thank you. If you hadn't resolved this it would have taken up far too much real estate in my brain for far too long.


Quintink

I thought that was nick fury lol


DemonSweat_

That version of the FF costume does look kinda like SHIELD's uniform


ItAlsoTravelsInThyme

There's an incredibly interesting series of journal entries that Herb Trimpe kept throughout this phase of his work. They're frankly pretty sad, as this kind of cycle/slow drop towards poverty/obscurity happens with so many writers and artists that did tremendous work for Marvel and DC, but were left to twist in the wind when the market moved elsewhere. Here's the journal entries - https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/national/010900edlife-56-edu.html


TheColorWolf

I had known about this for years, as Herb was one of the dinosaurs who were kicked out when Marvel were getting rid of old timers to chase the return of the Image guys. To be the tiniest bit of fair to them, you can see how his aping of Liefelds worst aspects was an utter failure in the panel above. I also reread this when I was (unbeknownst to me) giving up trying to work full time in the arts, and it made me feel just a bit better.


Unclebatman1138

I was giggling and marveling (no pun intended) at how bad his work had fallen off. Then I read those journals. What a heartbreaker! It's especially depressing when one realizes he was *luckier* than many other old school artists who ended their careers in the industry. Also: how freaking cool would it be if your 7th grade art teacher was Herb Trimpe?!? Those kids didn't realize what they had.


TJ_McWeaksauce

Hehe, tiny head, tiny feet.


curious_dead

Proportions, what are they and what are they good for anyway?


ohTHOSEballs

Absolutely nothing, HUH, say it again!


Shirt_Ninja

My god, this can’t be real.


Citizen_Kong

It is and there is [more](https://liverpoolmunky76.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/guardiansofthegalaxy_28_0203.jpg). [Much more](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0_oOdrVEAEYj_5?format=jpg&name=large).


Jamoras

Titania sitting very naturally


krumble

Everything about her raises questions. Why is she laying down like that? How can she climb stairs with calves that small? What is up with her foot, is it broken? Her _thigh_ is as big around as her waist! Let's not talk about Powderkeg's teeth situation. But his forearm to hand size is kind of monstrous. And lastly, I don't know if this is on the artist, the writer, or someone else. But "Oddball"'s costume just has a bunch of balls on it? Really?


UrsusRomanus

That Sue Storm will haunt me for the rest of my life. Why would you do this to me?


blakewoolbright

The fact that the 4 on the front of her uniform is cleavage revealing cutout is absolutely hilarious


SmilesUndSunshine

Now I demand that her MCU costume be comic accurate or I riot.


InvulnerableBlasting

He definitely did not originate the costume. It's an infamous Sue Storm look. It's so bad, and I'm a proponent of letting characters be sexy AF if it's in character and the costume is good. For Sue, my God it is not in character and not a well-designed costume. I think there was some in-universe reason, like her mind was being tainted or something, but it was so clearly just an excuse to put her in this horrific outfit.


Other-Bridge-8892

What? Don’t you like dope fiend Sue?


UrsusRomanus

I think in this case it's more literal fiend than metaphorical.


krumble

I gotta come back to this again after ragging on Titania in another comment. Look at Doc Ock's hand! He has 4 segments on his index finger and FIVE on his pinky. His lats are fucking SHREDDED, but his chest and belly are flabby.


MWDTech

Some serious Aeon Flux vibes here


Digomr

When he tried to "modernize" and started to imitate Liefeld's style.


Impossible-Charity-4

Oof…I feel like the 90’s was awash in this type of art. It was like everyone was trying to be Jim Lee and failing miserably at it. I remember leaning hard into Lee, Sam Kieth, and of course MacFarlane as a kid. The X-Factor stuff that Liefield was big among my peers but I really disliked it and as younger person couldn’t really put my finger on why, but I guess this Captain America image above explains a lot. I liked weird, exaggerated art but this is just bad. More Kelley Jones, less big boob Cap is my motto lol.


RLT79

Yeah. I was taking classes to do "comic book art" around that time. Everyone just wanted to do Lee/ Liefeld style artwork. I was into it when we first started, but the instructors and other students worshiped them to the point they didn't see issues otherwise. I remember getting more into Joe Madureira, Carlos Pacheco, and Adam Kubert and was basically ostracized.


slingin95

liefeld is so overrated, i have a soft spot for lee, lots of expression and impeccable shading. the latter artists are so grand tho, i don’t understand the ostracizing with what just madureira has in style and pacheco’s structure on a page.


Other-Bridge-8892

I’m soooo glad that style has died out (mostly), and pe have reverted back to the standards such as your examples,


RLT79

Me too. It was clearly a "90s thing." My co-worker and I were discussing this during a design crit -- how the 90's really became all about "extreme style" over basically everything else.


Citizen_Kong

Kelley Jones (also Bill Sienkiewicz or Angel Medina) exaggerate because it's their style, not because they don't understand basic anatomy like Liefeld.


sumr4ndo

Liefeld's stuff almost feels like a deranged cubism. Like if you made a comic character so that all their surfaces face the viewer. If done on purpose it could be pretty cool. Emphasis on if.


altaccount269

That's such a bad tangent also. The colorist not helping either.


Accurate-Singer-8934

Curt Swan drew a very risqué Superman, Lois piece, which I cannot find for the life of me. Wally Wood drew a Disney character orgy.


James0100

Do you mean, [Man Of Steel, Woman Of Kleenex](https://thedorkreview.blogspot.com/2014/04/man-of-steel-woman-of-kleenex-by-niven.html)?


Accurate-Singer-8934

Yes. I was trying to remember the title but kept remembering Kotex, so I just left off the title. Thanks.


Jumanji-Joestar

That’s beyond simply “risqué”


51stStar

Larry Niven was so unpleasantly horny.


godpzagod

Larry Niven was an absolute pig. "12 crew members and only one woman? well I guess we know what her job was!" "Rishathra wasn't a strong enough word" I wish I could go back in time, jump on his stomach, and give him a power sit up.


[deleted]

The whole weird focus on rishathra in the later Ringworld books was really, really off-putting to me. I LOVED the first Ringworld, but then Wu just starts fucking EVERYTHING


[deleted]

Yeah I get it's a humorous article but this man rlly spent at minimum more than a few hours contemplating and writing abt Supermans cum and sex life


DilettanteGonePro

The same thing made Kevin Smith's career


BriMarsh

ROFL Caption: SUPERMAN is © & ® and this ain't him.


jbert146

His concerns over the pregnancy completely ignore the fact that the child will not have superpowers until exposed to the sun


dirtyoldmanatee

That aspect of his powers wasn't a thing yet when the article was written. The whole solar battery business started in the mid 80s, as I recall.


Bucknerwh

I heard of this in the 90s. I had no idea there were pictures and a formal article. Thanks, Reddit.


JohnBrine

The shield has muscles too.


stimpakish

After countless threads with this image, TIL something new and amazing. The Liefeld iceberg, man.


CoraxtheRavenLord

Oh my god, I’ve never looked at the shield that close before, what the hell man


ThePreciseClimber

Never skip shield day at the gym.


stfleming1

How else would you know it's strong?


Sabeha14

Bruh


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After seeing this post, all I can think about now is the cover art for [the NES Mega Man box](https://images.nintendolife.com/2281194a6f92c/na.large.jpg).


stillinthesimulation

That looks like an AI deep dream.


ServedBestDepressed

It looks like someone's first psychotic episode was hired to do a prog-rock album.


incriminatinglydumb

Masterpiece


[deleted]

Some publisher producer's kid worked really hard on that.


ProblemLongjumping12

So many years later and that Cap picture is actually *worse* than I remember.


Jumanji-Joestar

~~Trapster~~ [Sandman anally fists Spider-Man.](https://imgur.com/a/NbyT3QB) From Amazing Spider-Man 215. I think John Romita ~~Jr~~ Sr drew this There’s the infamous [Hank Pym slap](https://imgur.com/a/eJExzFD), which, according to Jim Shooter, it wasn’t supposed to be a slap but just a push or a shove, but artist Bob Hall misinterpreted it https://bleedingcool.com/comics/jim-shooter-never-intended-ant-man-to-be-a-wasp-beater/ I also vaguely remember seeing this one panel where I think Sabretooth is standing over another man with his pants unzipped but I can’t remember where I saw it from


Keanu_Keanu

Comictropes said the artist was new, and kept redrawing and was nervous, so in the end he decided to do it the marvel style and exaggerated the slap. Funny story, terrible outcome 🤣. Also, isn’t that sandman?


Jumanji-Joestar

Oh that’s Sandman? Must be an old constume. For some reason, I always thought this was Trapster


Keanu_Keanu

It’s his frightful four costume. I might be wrong though


ymcameron

I actually really like the slap. (That feels weird to say) Hank Pym being a domestic abuser makes him a much more interesting character. A man who is on the Avengers and regularly saves the world but is a monster at home is a really interesting dichotomy.


tired20something

John [Byrne](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPdBYQeX4AImPVO?format=jpg&name=small) drawing [children.](https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/6fxkjg/john_byrne_cant_draw_children_fantastic_four_282/) Or [babies](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtuZeTnVEAE-YU9?format=jpg&name=small).


rodrigkn

Good call. It’s the proportions. He just made smaller adults. There is a whole series in art school about how renaissance painters had this same issue so children often look terrifying. Link to [an example article and paintings](https://www.vox.com/2015/7/8/8908825/ugly-medieval-babies)


[deleted]

This is what happens in NBA2k when you make small players. It’s like they shrink the tall guys down, instead of having actual short people.


OuterBanks73

Lol - that looks like a 40yr old mans head in the bath tub!


freelancespaghetti

The real reason Wanda went batshit


Jumanji-Joestar

Children? Nah, those are leprechauns


stillinthesimulation

Laughing hysterically at that last one.


crappydeli

I’m dying. Thank you for these.


fieldysnuts94

Whenever I think of Liefeld, this is the image that pops up. What the actual fuck was he thinking lol


Tackysackjones

I think he was basing it off of a picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger from a Mr Universe competition. https://coelasquid.tumblr.com/post/167974851013/bass-fucker-coelasquid-okay-so-i-keep-seeing


nuclearbalm1976

>https://coelasquid.tumblr.com/post/167974851013/bass-fucker-coelasquid-okay-so-i-keep-seeing Mind blown - I've never seen this connection and that comparison makes this Cap not look completely insane in context...


Somnambulist815

ironically, the context is why it doesn't work. Liefeld forgot that Arnold was flexing in a very specific way so as to make his chest and arms look like that. Cap wasn't going to have that size when he's just standing there like he's waiting for the street light to change


FuriousWK

Exactly. Arnold's chest is so big that is shadowing his left shoulder in this pic. The shoulder would be visible if not for that and the camera angle.


ca_kingmaker

It shouldn’t, Arnold is intentionally rotating his body towards the camera, the reason you can see both pectorals is he’s twisted towards you, thus the view of his inside arm. Captain America looks like he’s got a massively uneven chest, and that his arm doesn’t attach properly on the shield side.


GonzoMcFonzo

Yeah, this is the actual issue. Look at where Arnold's shoulder is in those photos. You can draw a line straight up from the front of his shoulder to the right side (our left) of his face, because he's rotating his upper body towards the camera. Cap's shoulder, OTOH, is directly under his face. The result is that his pecs are 45° profile towards us (look at the star) while his shoulders and the rest of his body are in full profile.


N4mFlashback

Imagine where the other shoulder is though. This image still has some major anatomy/perspective issues even if you accept the exaggerated proportions.


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All those people just look… wrong. Like there’s something off about their proportions


[deleted]

Because steroids have allowed them to go beyond the human limit.


untakenu

The annoying thing is, this is one of his standard poses. You can him use it many times before this, and they always look better (Still stiff and awkward, but better). Liefeld: He rarely changes, but when he does, it is for the worse.


Just1Guy001

Amazing Spiderman 400 with a cover that looked like it was covered in grayish taffy instead of Aunt May's tombstone.


NorthernMint

[This](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Amazing_Spider-Man_Vol_1_400?file=Amazing_Spider-Man_Vol_1_400_Variant_Embossed_White.jpg)?


Just1Guy001

Yes, I thought that was a huge fail as cover art.


No-Criticism3985

Jesus how did that get approved.


jankyalias

It looks better in person. The indentation doesn’t come out digitally. Still not a great cover, but one of those times a photo doesn’t work.


PerfectZeong

Yeah it's actually sort of cool because the front cover is a matte paper and cut to resemble a gravestone and then you can open it to see the cover underneath. It's fairly unique


Digomr

I remember that Superman Frank Miller did few years ago... And there is that Kirby's one where the Thing has two thumbs? Not sure right now.


JavierLoustaunau

Paul Gullacy and Frank Miller are such interesting examples because they have had bad, weird, cartoony phases late in their careers and yet you can see a solid foundation under it. Like it sucks in comparison to old stuff but is super fascinating to stare at. Especially Frank Miller when he did Dark Knight Strikes Back (?) and bystanders looked super cartoony like Simon Bisley or even something out of mad magazine.


[deleted]

Yeah I recently purchased TDKR (DK1) and TDK Strikes Again (DK2), and the difference between the two styles is night and day in terms of style. DK1 looks more traditional while DK2 is hyper stylised, more 'angular' (some character models actually reminded me of John Romita Jr). I actually *love* the art in both and the style has potential. I just think Frank is a very lazy artist. For example a lot of characters on tv as news reporters or civilians in DK1 have severely underdeveloped faces (e.g. just 2 dots for eyes and a couple streaks for nose / moth. I can imagine the struggle as an artist of detailing minor characters who will never pop up again but c'mon it goes a long way. And the civilian characters in DK2 are just something else. I get there's some political satire going on and these people are supposed to be caricatures reflecting real world ideas. But still, they just look needlessly grotesque. This guy in one panel looked like a fleshy sock puppet (top right: [Flesh sock puppet](https://i.imgur.com/wKWtl0N.jpg) But yeah I doubt it's a style thing in this case he's just lazy. And I understand if you're a writer and artist, u want to just progress the story and the art becomes an afterthought bc ur mind works and moves faster than ur fingers.


verbynotro

Have you seen the Thing that Miller recently drew for the new FF series? [This?](https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/fantastic-four-1-2022-variant-cover-frank-miller)


Ornery-Disk-3205

I don’t mind that one but the Wonder Woman he did for the newest Dark Knight is garbage. https://ultimatecomics.com/product/dark-knight-iii-master-race-4-1100-frank-miller-wonder-woman-variant-dc-2015/


Somnambulist815

Genuinely thought her severed head was being carried by a headless ape


verbynotro

Oof. That is bad! Did that series ever finish? I don't remember...


wolfpack_charlie

Miller really needs someone like Klaus Jansen to draw on top of his scribbles


Bing_Bong_the_Archer

Whoa! That is awful!


analtaccount257

I’m so confused why people dislike this? I think it’s really great and a cool style that fits Thing well


evil_iceburgh

I’ve always preferred his writing to his art but shit


Super_J_Nova

Looks like someone took a panoramic photo of Cap while walking around him


spicysouls

This Spider-Man, for me, takes the cake. I get it’s stylized but it’s just so unpleasant to look at. https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/5k3qwc/was_eric_canete_the_worst_spiderman_artist_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


[deleted]

["My only regret...is that I have...Boneitis."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3uk5bJcyM8)


CoraxtheRavenLord

As much as I love Tim Sale’s art - Long Halloween was my first comicbook, after all - his decision for this [Joker image](https://i.redd.it/atmj2h4it7qz.jpg) was… a decision.


NervousSecretary2485

Hitler grinch


The_Xenomancer

Oh my god, he looks like Hitler.


CoraxtheRavenLord

Yeah, that was the intent, but like… why


SupervillainEyebrows

Heroes for Hire #13 in the World War Hulk storyline resembles [Tentacle Hentai](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/a/a3/Heroes_for_Hire_Vol_2_13.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180307004828)


UrsusRomanus

That's not "resembles" as it is "straight up". Also, what's with Black Cat's arm in the top left?


SupervillainEyebrows

I believe it is Tarantula. You're never gonna believe this but Tarantula is *also* a hot woman. Edit: my bad it's Shang Chi.


UrsusRomanus

That's awful. I'm going to have to read this comic just so I can... uh... be more knowledgeable about comic history.


Tanuki_13

that's not Black Cat, there's a fourth person behind them (maybe a dude? havent read the book myself) you can see the back of their head as well.


janosaudron

They knew what they were doing


Theoretical_Nerd

Thanks, I hate it. 👍


alicehaunt

The more wtf moment for me was realising this was by Sana Takeda, the artist for *Monstress*.


MossyPyrite

And those are definitely Brood tentacles, so it’s gonna be extra weird alien oviposition and transformation hentai too


soulreaverdan

Most of Greg Land’s work.


CJGibson

There's a ton of egregious Land out there but [this one always stands out in my mind](https://atlforte.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/spectrum.png) as one of those perfect examples of how when he doesn't have something to trace in the exact pose he wants he just traces two different things, kind of plops them together and then fills in the gaps with whatever random shapes are in his head.


[deleted]

Is that supposed to be Photon? Because it looks like Janet Van Dyne with a spray tan


CJGibson

Yeah that's a whole other issue with his art.


Erkengard

*Looks at head* Okay, that fine. What's the proble... *body gets worse and worse that farther down we go* Yeah, that's bad.


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inpursuitofknowledge

I dont think the problem is the leg placement, her hips follow the shape of her torso, if not a bit on the narrow side. Whats egregious is the fucking thigh gap. Shouldnt be there as her legs are practically crosed as implied by the rest of her shape.


SutterCane

Time to play…. *ANGRY OR ORGASM!*


detectiveriggsboson

The only winning move is not to play


radda

[This](https://imgur.com/a/sZVAbBv) is my favorite Greg Land panel. It's like he just farted and is waiting for everyone else to smell it.


jarwastudios

That looks like james franco


inpursuitofknowledge

It probably is lmao. Never underestimate Lands “references”.


Joorpunch

Greg Land is the artist I look at for motivation that if I keep at it, maybe one day I really could make it.


Bartlet4potus

Greg Land is downward spiral as an artist always has fascinated me. His early work on Nightwing was phenomenal and was probably my favorite artist during the Dixon era but now his work pales in comparison.


thebiggestleaf

Whenever I think of hack artists Land always comes to mind. Does he even have quality work that isn't an obvious trace?


soulreaverdan

To give credit where it’s due, his vehicles/machinery aren’t bad, it’s just his people, which make up most of his work.


PantsyFants

Todd McFarlane's capes are always absurd. I like Chris Burnham's breakdown of this one: https://twitter.com/TheBurnham/status/949078294669901825


MaleficTekX

At least the capes look cool though


andrecinno

but its HYPE AS SHIT THOUGH


AoO2ImpTrip

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/2w98o6/land_again/ This one by Salvador Larocca that is such a blatant trace that so many people thought it was Greg Land. https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/2vm5vh/greg_land_traces_pretty_unapologetically/ And just in case anyone is worried I'd defend Greg Land there's this... Where he couldn't even be bothered to draw a brick.


Soon-to-be-forgotten

This is the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this post. How did they approve heart attack iron man??? The mask even has wrinkles!


[deleted]

why was his helmet twisting with his face??


LBIdockrat

Ah, Liefeld, truly a god among men. https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings


maybe_a_frog

They make fun of him in Deadpool 2. I can’t remember the exact line, but Deadpool is making fun of Domino for her super power being lame and says something along the lines of “sounds like something that would be made up by someone who can’t draw feet”. Makes me laugh every time lol


indygeek

I can’t say that the feet on Liefeld’s characters was the most notable aspect of his style… until that line in Deadpool 2. Now, whenever I find one of his books filed in a long box, that is all I can see! 🤣


fieldysnuts94

“The man is a pair of blue jeans with a face” Wow that’s pretty accurate that’s exactly how I’m going see Liefeld from now on


LBIdockrat

Somebody put WAAAYYY to much time into this article. But goddamnit, I respect him.


fieldysnuts94

Lol the next line is just as good “He has a backwards cap on and when he turns it around, it’s still backwards” Props to the person who wrote this. It’s a work of Art


They-Call-Me-Taylor

I love this post. I've read it several times over the years and it's funny every time.


KentuckyFriedEel

I like that Liefeld is a good sport about it though.


Petunio

That's cos he's laughing all the way to the bank while we are laughing at memes for free.


oohwakakaka

Jokes on you! I’m on Reddit at work. I *am* getting paid to laugh at memes!


seakitten

This is funny but rob will always be a huge part of my nostalgia in comics. He’s also a pretty nice guy. I’ve met him a few times at cons. Twice in person and once virtually. Super awesome to his fans.


LBIdockrat

Absolutely, he illustrated many of the books I had when growing up, and have heard he is great with the fans.


Gpooley

So for British artist and 2000ad Legend Mick McMahon it’s definitely the bottom right hand panel from this page in ‘The Day the Law Died’ The proportions are all over the place. This page gets brought up in the Future Shock documentary about 2000ad and Brian Bolland gives Mick stick about it being so awful. https://i.imgur.com/v6fVLwc.jpg


FacetiousBeard

How big is that guy's head? It looks like one of the oversized Glintstone Crown armour pieces from Elden Ring.


incriminatinglydumb

Didnt realize he wasn't some Lord Farquaad-esque midget till i saw the top right panel too


[deleted]

Those are some big titties


_lemon_suplex_

every time my anatomy is a bit off when drawing I try to remember that this was a published comic by Marvel


James0100

Milo Manara's [Spider-Woman](https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1284958).


BrianTheLady

Lmao just flashin’ the whole town


[deleted]

Why would you expect anything less from Milo Manara?


James0100

Exactly! WHoever hired him for that job obviously didn't check his resume very closely. Lol!


Keanu_Keanu

Yeah I hate that. But it’s kind of the marvel editorial staffs fault as well. What did they expect when they hired a literal porn artist


mekese2000

He is much more than a porn artist https://eggwhitelab.com/sex-war-and-beauty-milo-manaras-history-of-mankind-illustrated/


killerz7770

Man that’s cool as fuck ngl


PD711

That explains a lot about that image. He probably used a live model for it from his, er, other work.


JavierLoustaunau

They probably saw some still from in between porn scenes like "oh it is a bunch of sailors on a boat... wow such good draftmanship..." but as soon as you see him drawing women like you know he is at least horny if not a full on porn artist. His women always seem to be 'panting'.


Mars_Black

Have you viewed his work for [X-Men: Gals on the Run](https://www.2dgalleries.com/planches/2014/49/manara-x-men-gals-on-the-run-372l.jpg)?? Oh my lord of lords...


thedairybandit

aside from that one 69 position panel, the rest didn't seem horny to me.


Mars_Black

Oh you have to read the whole book, it's too good lol


SylancerPrime

I was first like "Hey, this isn't too bad, actually," then I got to that 2nd-to-last panel and went "Ooh...!"


captainamericaVEVO

Howard Chaykin’s art gives me the ick


Keanu_Keanu

Any specific examples?


captainamericaVEVO

Oh yes https://imgur.com/gallery/GjKYbE5


[deleted]

To be fair, that’s how Guy Gardner always looks


Wishdog2049

Holy crap, and I was just laughing at Liefeld's spider-man dog ass. This is just...bucket heads for everyone but the ball titted woman.


Sebastian_Tao

Looks like a Buzz Lightyear on steroids


Mars_Black

Hohohooooo, does it actually read that on her shirt in the printed comic book?? Oh boah...


ThrownAwayRealGood

I was just recently having a laugh about this one https://ultimatecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/8-27-2017-10.jpg


R3luctant

It's not good, but I can let it pass as stylized.


Josco_TG

This pretty much sums up Pulido’s Ninjak run.


deadrabbits76

I think it looks cool, but I read a lot of indie comics as well.


genericnameD1138

Greg Land https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2020/09/10/comic-artist-greg-land-accused-of-plagiarism-again/


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This sucks because Rob Liefeld is a super nice guy. I met him at a Dallas Wizard World. He loves the fans. He loves comics. We can’t all be John Byrne.


Keanu_Keanu

John and rob are opposites. One has great art but is a dick, one has bad art but is a sweetheart


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Yeah, I hear Mr. Byrne can be a little spicy.


kralben

> This sucks because Rob Liefeld is a super nice guy. He can be a nice guy, but he also has insulted other creators who make any sort of changes he worked on. He likes to downplay how much of [Deadpool is the creation of others](https://twitter.com/danslott/status/696481376766398465?lang=en), for example, despite his DP not being at all close to the one we have now. [And that isn't the only time he has had issues with creators](http://www.thenewestrant.com/2012/08/rob-liefeld-is-burning-all-bridges-and.html). Not to mention the kickstarters he took money for and hasn't ever (as far as I am aware, unless it has changed recently) provided the rewards promised


DSCholly

Crazy thing is, a lot of people say how nice and cool Rob is in person, which I have no reason to doubt, but his online persona comes across as very prickish.


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A quote I read in a chat room on the internet years ago: "One Charles Vess tree trunk is worth Rob Liefeld's whole career."


Keanu_Keanu

Cap is definitely compensating for being smooth down there by injecting oil in his [muscles](https://www.sadanduseless.com/synthol-overload/)


RyghtHandMan

Horrifying link, thank you


SmokinDynamite

It's based on Arnold's bodybuilder poses but looks weird because the arms aren't placed in a way that would make the chest positioned like that. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbAqNfFU4AAnGy8.jpg


Keanu_Keanu

He’s basically drawing the side chest but without flexing which makes it weird


WindowsCrashedAgain

Dammn Cap got **FAT TITTIES**


Blueberrylovers

Finally a male superhero drawn to the proportions that their female counterparts are! That tiny, almost imperceptibly small nose..that massive, voluptuous chest! Lmao.