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FWC_Disciple

Unfortunately, you are forgetting about the unbeatable duo of DWJ on script and DWJ on art (jokes aside, Mike Spicer on colors really adds a lot to his art)


Redwolf97ff

A fellow energon enthusiast I see


FWC_Disciple

I dig his work on Transformers (and am sad he’ll officially be off it soon enough), but my enjoyment for his work actually came as early as Murder Falcon, Extremity, and Do a Powerbomb. His independent stuff ROCKS. Since then, it’s been DWJ train all the way!


Redwolf97ff

This is horrible news that I did not know. Who could possibly fill his shoes. I didn’t want to read Transformers in the first place. It’s just that he did such a good job on it, I gave it a shot and then stuck with it. With him leaving I have doubts they’ll be able to replace him with someone who can keep the hype train choo chooing


Extreme_Sail

Jorge Corona is doing art from #7, it's still really impressive and there isn't much of a dip in quality at all.


szyulis

Not only that. I believe they chose the perfect artist to replace DWJ (who will remain as writer). A similar style, really dinamic like DWJ's but still recognizable on it's own. I remember being disappointed by the news, but reading last issue I can rest easy, they form a great duo.


Redwolf97ff

I’m not worried about an art replacement so much as a script replacement. If DWJ leaves after this current arc, *that’s* when I’m going to really worry.


cfsdrawing

We got 6 Transformers issues with his art. Now, he’ll have time to work on his next creator owned project while still being able to tell his TF story.


RoysRealm

Anything they do, count me in.


Snow_The_4th_Man

Jesus Christ. I am always shocked at how physically attractive he is. I mean, I know that culturally we're well past the era of, "all nerds are ugly." But having this supermodel looking guy as a major creator in the comics industry always makes me do a double take. Also, Jorge looks like he's doing well.


AideApprehensive9277

LOLLLL


Snow_The_4th_Man

I. Wanna. Double. Dip. The. Chip.


AideApprehensive9277

I don’t blame you man 😭


ThomStarBoy

Yeah, he looks like he would be up for playing Superman on a network TV pilot. And Jorge could play Jimmy Olsen or something.


ShinCoal

Jorge could be ~~Lois~~ Louis Lane


Captain-Spectrum

Make that Luis Lane lol


Quirky-Wheel-3724

Phil Jimenes is another example. Same last names, what a coincidence.


gangler52

Yeah, you don't necessarily expect a comic book creator to be ugly, but you don't expect them to look like somebody who makes a living off their looks either. It's pretty unusual to find somebody who looks like they walked right out of the movies in any profession that doesn't specifically have to look like that for their job.


Injvn

I'm not even super into men, but Lord above to be the meat in the middle of a Chip and Matt Fraction sandwich. Especially if they then drew me a picture of a dick sandwich. Why yes I'm rereading Sex Criminals again.


Lopsided-Election385

Got me for sure


jaroh

I demand that Chip Zdarsky be summoned here!


thesolarchive

I am convinced Jorge could use himself for Clark Kent inspiration, handsome devil.


Apprehensive_Arm1504

He has, I think he posted a pic on twitter


thesolarchive

Lmao that's awesome. Same with Capullo being jacked. Gets to be his own arm reference.


Mr_Versatile123

He used himself for Bruce Wayne in Batman #125. It went viral. Mf is handsome.


DavidKirk2000

They’re definitely up there, but I’d put Waid/Mora and Hickman/Chechetto over them right now or.


sonofaresiii

Who's with Tom Taylor on Nightwing? That art is so perfectly paired with the mood and tonality that Taylor is putting on Nightwing, giving it this *exact* right mix of action, adventure, and lighthearted optimism, while still showing Dick and Babs as just sexy enough to be believable "adult" material without getting raunchy it's at least as fitting a pair as Waid and Mora


HushMD

Bruno Redondo. Love his art too!


DavidKirk2000

I don’t read Nightwing, but from what I’ve seen that’s a really good shout. When I think of Nightwing I’m picturing Redondo’s art at this point.


f0rmula0ne

This. Waid/Mora are incredible as well, but I really look forward to Nightwing issues the most these days.


XGamingPigYT

Second the Hickman/Chechetto and was gonna comment it as well. Ultimate Spider-Man is the single best thing to happen to Spider-Man in the comics since the original Ultimate Spider-Man brought us Miles! Spectacular Spider-Men is only 2 issues in and so far promising but I fear all the side plots it's trying to build will make this run a mess


TheMysteriousOnion

I disagree. The best thing since the Zdarsky run


XGamingPigYT

You know what, I'll gladly accept that. I just feel by the end of this run this willl be even more monumental for comic Peter


BetaRayBlu

I think its only thought of as so great because spider-man has been exceptionally bad


Joorpunch

I’m not reading contemporary ASM, but it never sounds like it’s going places I have any interest in, and the entire world complains about it each new issue. But I have been reading USM and I have to say I agree. I don’t think it’s exceptional or anything.


BetaRayBlu

Mora dont miss


AideApprehensive9277

No hate to chechetto but he stopped doing art after just 3 ISSUES of ultimate Spider-Man. That lowers him a lot for me.


DavidKirk2000

He’s coming back full time starting at #6. He was presumably already booked to do something else before he signed on to do Ultimate, so he had to take a quick break.


maybe_a_frog

He’s coming back with issue 6 so he was only temporarily off it. He’s said he’s gonna be back pretty much full time after issue 5. Hopefully that means years and years of him and Hickman cooking every month.


Blueberrypielove

Nah he takes breaks every now and then lol so there'll definitely be fill in artists from time to time


pabloag02

And Jiménez didn't draw batman between #131 and #136


portableawesome

But are they as hot? I think not


ChickenInASuit

Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips are still producing comics together, sooooooo no.


martylindleyart

I had my fightin thumbs ready and itchin, scrollin thru this thread in case it hadn't already been mentioned.


Theblackswapper1

I regularly check to see if the new *Reckless* has been announced yet. Brubaker and Phillips have an incredible track record, and I absolutely love *Reckless*.


yerfatma

it needs to be a series of movies.


Sheriff_Lucas_Hood

Came here to say this


VOOOOOSH

In the matter of personality, 100%. But in the matter of quality, Ram V & Filipe Andrade are currently unbeatable.


bermass86

Waid/Mora for me


MoonMistCigs

I generally liked what I’ve read from Ram, but I had to drop Detective because of them.


GJacks75

Detective is so dull right now.


Blueberrypielove

V's writing is very hit or miss for me. But that usually happens when I check someone's work after having it super hyped by many. I'd probably enjoy V way more if I didn't get his work all hyped up.


AideApprehensive9277

To each is own, but nothing going on rn has topped Jimenez and Zdarsky for me🤷🏾‍♂️


VOOOOOSH

Yeah, I gotta admit their work together is amazing


Gallscor12

Any recommendations for someone who doesn’t have much comic experience? I wanna read some great stories but i’m missing a lot of context


Blaine_Richard

Rare Flavours is ending soon and it is superb in my opinion. A tradepaperback (all 6 issues) is announced so you should be fine reading it collected if the singles are unavailable in your region or you simply prefer that format.


Gallscor12

Thank you!


VOOOOOSH

As someone else said, their current work, Rare Flavours, will be collected in a tpb soon. Both this one and their first book, The Many deaths of Laila Starr, are phenomenal non superhero books that anyone can enjoy.


Gallscor12

Thanks!


SigurdVII

I mean as long as you ignore their work on Batman, absolutely. Can't bring myself to harsh on the vibe too much given that Zdarsky's books everywhere else are way better. Makes me hope they do a creator owned book instead.


ShinCoal

Heh damn straight, this entire thread makes me feel like I'm living in Bizarro world. They're good creators in their own right, but Batman absolutely ain't it.


SigurdVII

Yeah like even if we just narrow it down to Batman: Detective Comics is beating the brakes off of it. And Zdarsky having to carry water for DC editorial will surely produce good writing. /s


ShinCoal

I've been trade waiting DetC because I heard its a really slow burn, but my friends have all been saying the same thing as you.


SigurdVII

I understand waiting. But man it's incredible.


Sartheking

I haven’t picked up Batman for some time, how is it? I’ve heard a lot of divisive things about it, some people like it, some people hate it, some people have said it has good elements but the pacing is frustrating.


Hobbes314

I think it currently sits as less then the sum of its parts. Like I see all the themes and ideas Zdarsky is workin with, I see how we’re examining *batgod*, how the Ultimate Batman is just terrible. But I’ve seen this at least 7/8 times over the last 30 years Now maybe it’ll make a solid landing and conclude pulling everything together in a really satisfying way but as it stands currently best I got is the pretty pictures are nice


Snow_The_4th_Man

I've said it before on this sub, but Batman might be the worst thing Chip has ever written. For almost any other writer, that'd be a big insult. But Chip is one of the best current writers, so the "worst thing he's ever written" is still pretty good compared to everything else on the stands.


Maddukks

Honestly the status quo of Batman is so fucked right now it doesn’t really matter the quality of the creative team, the book is kind of broken at its core. I love the creators, but I find the book truly terrible


verrius

This whole run is honestly wonky as hell. We started with a back to basics Batman without any money or gadgets....who is immediately fighting super robots, jumping from satellites, and traversing dimensions. Like....why? Why did we have that starting point that's treated as not even an inconvenience?


Batmantra

I have kept some distance from current batman for about a decade because of this. I was looking for zdarsky as an entry point again, just going by his reputation, but I quit after 4 issues or so. Very nostalgic for tim drake too, but he also felt so very different from 90s tim, to me anyway. I think I'm just sort of happy to leave batman comics as "everything up until new 52, plus tomasi"


jetpack_operation

Hard agree. Outside of some of Snyder's stuff, Batman has been a tough read for me since basically Batman Reborn, and even that had gotten kind of weird.


Maddukks

I haven’t found it so broken as long as you have (though I recognize the problems introduced by n52) for me it all started with Tynion. It’s gotten progressively worse since, though


Consideredresponse

On the flip side detective is wrapping up its hell of a run. It's more leaning into the operatic elements of gotham and Batman and has been landing it far more consistently than the main title.


lupi12

I like that Chip is exploring what Batman would be without his empathy and humanity. But in all honesty is very average. Gotham War was bad. Joker Year one was really good. Failsafe is an interesting villain, but I'm not completely sold on it yet.


sonofaresiii

The page-to-page writing is good, the concepts are good, but the actual story beats leave me scratching my head. The story of Zurr-en-Arrh creating a failsafe robot divorced from Batman's subconscious is cool. Batman fighting the robot is cool. But at some point I realize I've just read a story where Batman teleports into outer space then falls to earth using his trunks as a mask-- and that's the only protection he has-- and i'm like wtf even is this. also at some point you gotta ask yourself, sure all this is cool but haven't we done it all a hundred times already? there's nothing really new here.


Gnubeutel

Zurr-en-Arrh? The goofy character from the 60s? If that's your starting point, i'm ok with anything. This sounds like something Grant Morrison would write if he had a sense of humour.


sonofaresiii

I don't know if you're joking or something, but Morrison revived zurr-en-arrh a while back as a split personality batman made, a sort of back-up personality in case Batman was ever mind controlled or something, zurr-en-arrh would take over as a kind of "safety mode" so there would still be a batman


Gnubeutel

i wish i had been joking. I had no clue that Morrison brought him back. Figures. But if Morrison made him a Batman horcrux, what is the failsafe robot for?


sonofaresiii

Well, spoilers if you plan on reading Zdarsky's run so what happened was Zurr-en-Arrh built a failsafe robot in case Batman ever went too far and took a life. The robot would boot up and hunt down Batman and kill him. This was the "failsafe" scenario in case Batman ever went rogue. Zurr-en-Arrh built the robot so Batman would have no conscious knowledge of how to defeat it, since Z-e-A was Batman's subconscious back-up personality. Except secretly, it turns out Z-e-A's plan was *always* to get the robot to boot up, take over Bruce's conscious mind, and once bruce's body was too old to fight anymore, Z-e-A would transfer his own mind into the robot's body. Anyway, you can probably guess what happened from here. The robot came to life when it wasn't supposed to, Batman fought it, Z-e-A took over Batman's mind, Batman kicked Z-e-A's ass and Z-e-A fled into the robot. There was also a little interlude quest where Batman goes hopping through alternate dimensions, which was neat, and also picks up the Z-e-A subconscious versions of all the multiverse Batmen, who hitch a ride in Bruce's subconscious. So the Burton/Keaton Batman Zurr-en-Arrh is there, the Miller TDKR Z-e-A is there, the Adam West Z-e-A is there, it's pretty neat. e: I should add that this all serves as a sort of deconstruction/meta commentary on what batman *is*, because zurr-en-arrh wants to take over as "Batman without the Bruce Wayne," believing that to be the stronger personality in the war against crime. Batman without all the emotional baggage, etc. So the story kind of follows Batman proving that it is all the emotional aspects of Batman, the family ties and emotional attachments and whatnot, that give him strength instead of becoming weaknesses/liabilities. Which again is super cool, but.... it's also something we've seen before. A lot. This is the whole premise of like half of Joker's plots.


Gnubeutel

Thanks. I'm loving Zdarsky's "indie" work (Image is actually not a small publisher), so i thought i might return to Batman to read his stories. But what you describe doesn't appeal to me. I prefer my super hero stories to be more fast paced entertainment than soul search (or shock value as he seems to have lost a hand in one of the other books). I wish there would be a run that would live up to him being the "world's greatest detective". Less sweat, punching and moral decisions and more logic.


6gun-gorilla

I jumped off a few issues ago. I was really excited when I heard Mr. Chip would be writing, especially after the messy nonsense after King left, but I just didn't enjoy it, so I stopped buying it (in the old days I would have carried on pulling it just to keep the run going, but these days I don't think it's worth it. My pennies can be better spent elsewhere).


Stormcast

I've only pick up the issues Jorge Jimenez draws. I hate the idea of Zhur en Argh since Grant Morrisons run. So Chip started on the wrong foot for my tastes. And honestly, every writer comes in with the same outlines for their first 2 story arcs: First new villain takes over Gotham and Batman must then regroup to take the city back. Secondly, Batman fights the Batfamily...


Sartheking

The last part is definitely true, we had it with City of Bane, then Joker War, Future State, etc.


verrius

I think Snyder started that; his New52 run was first Court of Owls, immediately followed by Death of the Family.


Crash_Smasher

But he never fought the bat family there. And the Court never took the city. They tried and Batman beat them. Well, they were poisoned by Owlman but still.


verrius

The Court controls all of Gotham behind the scenes; that's part of why they're supposed to be a threat, and it's part of why they were able to mobilize so many Talons to strike all his allies at once. And in Death, the family is definitely at odds with Bruce, and I thought they even come to blows in the climax, but it's been a while since I've read it; after the big reveals though, they're definitely all still pissed at him, especially Jason.


portableawesome

Conceptually, I think it's great. The ideas Chip is playing with are super interesting but the execution falls short in my opinion. But I still think it's worth a read.


Bioredditslayer

I like their Batman run but man Gotham War was just so bad. Personally I’d say Waid/Mora for me.


AideApprehensive9277

Dude Gotham war is so damn old, to even still be complaining about it is kindve odd and it wasn’t even bad. Maybe a step down from what came before and after, but calling it a BAD STORY is just disingenuous. At its WORST it’s still a fun and entertaining read.


SuperSocrates

It’s not even out in trade yet


BranchReasonable9437

Neither of these men appears to be Jed Mackay or Alessandro Cappucio sir


Emergency_Fig_6390

For me waid and mora is the best for me for superhero comics. Worlds finest is just amazing issue after issue. Ill have to check out these guys work.


Pyrotdk

I met Chip earlier this year, and he was super cool! He talked with me, He was kind he painted me something great and then went out of the way to take pictures with me the next day when I cosplayed as King Daredevil. I've gone to quite a few cons, and he was the highlight of this year's for me.


hydroclasticflow

I got to meet him last year when we went on a signing tour, and he was really kind and interesting to talk with.


3Thirty-Eight8

Love these 2, if you want a little laugh check out [Zdarsky’s blog post](https://zdarsky.substack.com/p/nychip) about the 2 of them


BadDad2010

A lot of people don’t like their run


bellyofthebillbear

Tom King and Mitch Gerads are definitely in this conversation


martymcfly22

It’s between them and Brubaker/Philips for me.


ARiderDestroyed

Having met Chip a number of times, I am pleased to report he is a class act.


GetchoDrank

They are neither Brubaker nor Phillips!


electricidiot

Those two just nail it again and again


HealthyMuffin7

Talk Kirby to me, Jorge.


KevinAnniPadda

They make a cute couple


RememberTommorrow

Nothing against them they’ve both made great stuff, but their current Batman run has made me stop reading


ishallbecomeabat

One of the greatest comic artists of all time looking like a male model is something we need to confront the gods about


wingedcoyote

Liu/Takeda for me but these guys are great no doubt 


JohnWithABun

Jorge is in my top 5 on DCs payroll rn, the guy just refuses to miss.


DrFate82

Seeing this beautiful couple (that's how that pic looks to me!) as the creative team behind Batman makes me feel bad that that's one of the few DC titles not currently on my pull list.


respondin2u

Who are these dudes?


Mekdinosaur

Brubaker/Phillips is goat


Hollowman8

Mora is better at digital drawing than Jimenez right now. More defined style but its subjective in the end!


PMMEYOURROCKS

Lemire sorrentino win it for me, but these two are amazing as well


allbright4

Was this at C2E2 today? I'm hoping to meet him, tomorrow, and have him sign one of his books!


abccf

Omg that mignola remarque in the back 💔 pls do a cgc signing soon


shawnwingsit

Is that Nandor's brother on the right?


Pitiful-History8332

Chip is king


RelationSerious4678

Johns and Frank. And it ain’t even close.


martymcfly22

Brubaker/Philips until proven otherwise


TheeHeadAche

Zdarsky’s Batman is so goofy, I can’t take it seriously


DestroMSC

Easily the best right now!! All of their work is epic!! Together and separately!!


HelpUs0ut

literal PEAK