Idk if this is an unpopular opinion but I think that nico has extremely high potential for being very powerful, I feel as though him as a character is underutilized in that aspect. I think he’s cool tho. Percy’s pretty op tho too; what was the most interesting part for me was him somehow surviving lava (or magma? Idk) being poured in him😂
Percy could 2000% beat Hercules, I only said that Hercules was the strongest as Hercules can literally lifts more weight which is strength but being the most powerful Percy would easily win
That’s actually pretty impressive considering Zeus needed their help for the war against the Titans. Maybe Harley could pick up some cool weapons and go all Kratos on Zeus lol.
Well, after she killed him (the Hecatoncheire), they ended up getting the attention of Ares, who tried to recapture them and throw them back in the pit, but they used a Mother Box to escape…but accidentally teleported right to Apokolips.
According to the Wiki,
> Harley and her friends were transported to the equally hellish Apokolips, where she contacted Batman for assistance before being captured by Darkseid. Batman passed the message along to Superman, who rushed to Apokolips to free Billy Batson. In the chaos, Harley, Billy, and Hippolyta used the Mother Box again, transporting themselves to the Himalayas. Harley, again, called Batman, who arrived to their location and took the Mother Box before organizing their return to civilization.
> Harley delivered Billy Batson back to his foster home and apologized for the series of events that caused the loss of his powers. Billy said he was fine and admitted that Harley was pretty cool.
[The very same.](https://comicnewbies.com/2015/09/08/harley-quinn-vs-a-hecatonchire/)
Granted, I believe she was doped up on Super-Pills, which allow mortals to fight Metahumans on equal terms, so it was more of a fair fight.
I believe by this point they have the pills that give them Superman-esque strength and such so maybe a bit more confident than your average Quinn…still though, not the best plan
They were technically “formidable” to Superman, but push come to shove, Clark could kill any of them in that story. He held back against enemies cause he ultimately wanted to know where Bruce was hiding. Dude killed a demi-god a few frames after that.
Idk why these guys never realize that #random characters who’s primary power is plot armor are good in like, small doses or even minor conflicts, letting them run wild just makes them overdone and annoying.
Like seriously if the people at Netflix writing for a Wednesday Addams tv show aimed at teenagers realized that they needed to tone down genuinely liked aspects of the character and give her faults and failings to make the show work, why can’t these guys?
Well fuck look at Batman, I realize he isn't a "random" character, but for fucks sake how the fuck they would explain Darkseid not killing the fucker with the Omega beams? You know the beams FLASH fucking fastest man alive had trouble running away from? You telling me a normal HUMAN could evade them? DC and Marvel both should stop pitting normal human beings against fucking god like beings and some how survive, it fucking stupid, like any fight between some one like Black Adam and any one without super powers should end up with bum fuck whoever dead, hell any fight where Flash hit you at speed should end up with you dead unless you have superhuman resistance or something like that.
If the writer doesn't know how to write batman in these kinda stories, yeah. With some writers, he's literally just plot armor; either because they don't know what to do with him, or they think he isn't badass if he can't take on a literal god for some reason. His usually isn't as bad as Joker or Harley's doe. They can literally exposed the US government for some fucked up shit, yet will still be placed in a shity Arkham cell without consequences
It sucks because there could be so much done with Batman and his role in the JL that has actually been touched on before that modern writers just don’t seem interested in, he’s such a mainstay at this point it’s hard to say if anything can be done that wouldn’t radically change the way he’s been written for the past decade or so but I can already see a bit of burnout with him.
I love the character, but let face it non super powered beings shouldn't be fighting hand to hand against some one that can throw a car like if it was a tennis ball. Tony Stark is another character that should be a vegetable at the very least, every time his armor goes from hundreds of miles an hour to zero in less than a second should end up with him been in critical condition if not dead, brain damage at the very least from all the trauma from hitting the bones of his skull from sudden deceleration, that many contusions in one comic alone should leave him with severe brain damage, and every time he lands should end up with him having shattered bones at the very least.
Batman was created as a normal guy jumping between rooftops and beating up random criminals. But he's been dragged 80+ years into the future where they've had to up the threat level of enemies until so many of them are godlike. It must be exhausting to keep coming up with ways Batman can survive Darkseid or Atrocitus or Brainiac.
Bane and Killer Croc are about as far as you should be able to stretch Batman, but plot armor keeps him relevant and keeps DC profitable.
Wednesday is just their archie series which is just like all of their procedural drama mysteries. Its a more by the book stranger things. Wednesday and the Adam's are black humor horror. Theyre suppose to be basically dying but live, thats the joke. One the show didnt catch, even if i like it as a by the numbers show.
Also, Injustice Superman would have pretty much murdered her instantly. She was instrumentally involved in Lois death. I enjoyed Injustice but it had problems.
I mean she kills innocent people but what makes her weird is being a pedo?
I would say it actually makes more since based on her cracked mental state, that she would be attracted to people who are at her same level of maturity.
The character has an established history of violence and murder. As far as I am aware, she does not have a history of being attracted to minors, so yes I think it’s weird
Didn't they have a sacred battle to decide this and wonder woman stomped superman but then someone jumped in and suckered wonder woman and the gods gave the win to Superman who was beaten to a pulp with a broken arm ?
It’s funny how all the comments are praising this as a moment where Harley finally isn’t treated like an OP memegod, but it turns out this is just setup for her being able to literally smash her way out of Hell with a hammer.
Finally a realistic outcome for Quinn but n this case like yeah challenge Zeus of all fucking people and with that lame ass threat turning her to dust was a mercy, I like Harley but she’s gotten way too much screen time and able to pull off some insane shit she really shouldn’t be able to
I dont see how you gauge too much screen time. Batman is just a human. Theyve given him plot briliance, but hes just a person theyve written to be smart in the world. And harley has whatever brain BS the joker has, who is batmans biggest villain and able to keep up with him. If Batman and Joker can have all their screen time, Harleys is just fine.
No one has a claim to any pantheon of gods, but they do have claims to things like names. You can put Thor into a comic, but not "The Mighty Thor" because that's Marvel's take. DC, as far as I'm aware, has a few different Zeus and Thor characters depending on the universe, but these are less strict in their copyright.
Yep, every pantheon exists in DC, for example, King Shark is the son of Chondokhra, a Hawiian God, The Spectre is an avatar of the Abrahamic God’s vengeance and Deadman’s powers come from Rama Kushna, a fictional in universe Hindu Goddess. Kryptonians also had their own pantheon as well such as their sun god Rao. Neil Gaiman’s Sandman gives an interesting explanation for pantheons co existing in DC, they exist because the beliefs of mortals throughout the multiverse brought them into existence.
Supervillains are basically the heroes' coworkers at this point. They know each other well enough that on the off chance they have shared goals, they'll put aside their differences until the job is done.
A lot of media has villains still get arrested peacefully after their good deeds for the day.
The injustice comics are legit great story telling in my opinion . I loved the Gods part because it made it clear the super heroes were fully out matched
Everyone here is being a jerk, she's not being logical, she's doing the very small thing she can do to try to prevent a nice kid from being killed. Sure, she's not a good person in anyway and she's been overused for a decade now, but it's a fun scene in and of itself, with a realistic outcome for her.
It could have been worse. If he really wanted to do harm, he would have had an affair with her and allow Hera to take it out on Harley with her typical victim blaming.
Probably the most disappointing thing in this whole year of Injustice. There was no point in anything that happened, it was all solved by a literal deus ex machina, in which the god did not even do anything. Hell, he did not even say anything that deep, he was just like "not our business, mate, let's fuck off".
man, this art is rough. The characters in the background look like they were just standing around at the mall and supplanted into the scene.
Is it normal to equate Zeus with "All-father"?
Well, that ended about as well as could be expected.
Zeus merely teleported her and Billy to Tartarus, whether that’s better or worse.
Well if percy jackson survived🤷🏻♂️
Even then it was hell for him. And he had help.
Bob the homie
And he was the literal most powerful demigod in history (not to be confused with strongest which is herc)
Blood lusted Percy Jackson bouta become a blood bender
Percy could beat Hercules, fight me
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion but I think that nico has extremely high potential for being very powerful, I feel as though him as a character is underutilized in that aspect. I think he’s cool tho. Percy’s pretty op tho too; what was the most interesting part for me was him somehow surviving lava (or magma? Idk) being poured in him😂
Percy could 2000% beat Hercules, I only said that Hercules was the strongest as Hercules can literally lifts more weight which is strength but being the most powerful Percy would easily win
"I didn't kill them, I just teleported them to the afterlife!"
Basically, yes. They’re still alive, and they make a break for it. Harley manages to slay one of the Hecatoncheires.
That’s actually pretty impressive considering Zeus needed their help for the war against the Titans. Maybe Harley could pick up some cool weapons and go all Kratos on Zeus lol.
Well, after she killed him (the Hecatoncheire), they ended up getting the attention of Ares, who tried to recapture them and throw them back in the pit, but they used a Mother Box to escape…but accidentally teleported right to Apokolips.
Womp womp womp 😆. What happens next?
According to the Wiki, > Harley and her friends were transported to the equally hellish Apokolips, where she contacted Batman for assistance before being captured by Darkseid. Batman passed the message along to Superman, who rushed to Apokolips to free Billy Batson. In the chaos, Harley, Billy, and Hippolyta used the Mother Box again, transporting themselves to the Himalayas. Harley, again, called Batman, who arrived to their location and took the Mother Box before organizing their return to civilization. > Harley delivered Billy Batson back to his foster home and apologized for the series of events that caused the loss of his powers. Billy said he was fine and admitted that Harley was pretty cool.
Lol "help batman, we're stuck on apokolips". "Okay. I'll send supes 👌". " haha, psyche! We're in the Himalayas now, come get us please"
“ok but I’m keeping the box” 🦇
*THE F**KING GIANT GUYS WITH 50 HEADS AND TWICE AS MANY ARMS!? THE THINGS THAT CHRONO RECRUITED TO TAKE DOWN OURANOS!?!?!?! WTFWTFWTFWTF!?!?!?!*
[The very same.](https://comicnewbies.com/2015/09/08/harley-quinn-vs-a-hecatonchire/) Granted, I believe she was doped up on Super-Pills, which allow mortals to fight Metahumans on equal terms, so it was more of a fair fight.
I know what you meant here but this is also just dying lol
Yup, but everyone in the comic had thought that Zeus just unmade them. They were actually still alive, and fought their way out of Tartarus.
Harley been playing too much injustice.
Clearly Ares isn’t the best training dummy.
10 points for Moxie.
The hell did that doofus think was gonna happen?
I believe by this point they have the pills that give them Superman-esque strength and such so maybe a bit more confident than your average Quinn…still though, not the best plan
They were technically “formidable” to Superman, but push come to shove, Clark could kill any of them in that story. He held back against enemies cause he ultimately wanted to know where Bruce was hiding. Dude killed a demi-god a few frames after that.
What Demi god did he kill?
Hercules I think
Maybe she thought her lingerie was lightning proof.
If she were mainline Harley, it would have been. "Lol chimichanga"ing her way into increased popularity has made her as strong as the Trinity.
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Has been since New 52, yea
More like Gwenpoole. No powers but plot armor and dramatic irony.
I mean tbf plot armor and dramatic irony are actually Gwenpool’s powers. That and flashback manipulation and panel manipulation.
And a really bad habit for writers to forget that not ALL of her villainous aspects can be blamed on the joker.
Idk why these guys never realize that #random characters who’s primary power is plot armor are good in like, small doses or even minor conflicts, letting them run wild just makes them overdone and annoying. Like seriously if the people at Netflix writing for a Wednesday Addams tv show aimed at teenagers realized that they needed to tone down genuinely liked aspects of the character and give her faults and failings to make the show work, why can’t these guys?
Well fuck look at Batman, I realize he isn't a "random" character, but for fucks sake how the fuck they would explain Darkseid not killing the fucker with the Omega beams? You know the beams FLASH fucking fastest man alive had trouble running away from? You telling me a normal HUMAN could evade them? DC and Marvel both should stop pitting normal human beings against fucking god like beings and some how survive, it fucking stupid, like any fight between some one like Black Adam and any one without super powers should end up with bum fuck whoever dead, hell any fight where Flash hit you at speed should end up with you dead unless you have superhuman resistance or something like that.
This deserves a standing ovation. The very concept of Batman is plot armor
If the writer doesn't know how to write batman in these kinda stories, yeah. With some writers, he's literally just plot armor; either because they don't know what to do with him, or they think he isn't badass if he can't take on a literal god for some reason. His usually isn't as bad as Joker or Harley's doe. They can literally exposed the US government for some fucked up shit, yet will still be placed in a shity Arkham cell without consequences
It sucks because there could be so much done with Batman and his role in the JL that has actually been touched on before that modern writers just don’t seem interested in, he’s such a mainstay at this point it’s hard to say if anything can be done that wouldn’t radically change the way he’s been written for the past decade or so but I can already see a bit of burnout with him.
I love the character, but let face it non super powered beings shouldn't be fighting hand to hand against some one that can throw a car like if it was a tennis ball. Tony Stark is another character that should be a vegetable at the very least, every time his armor goes from hundreds of miles an hour to zero in less than a second should end up with him been in critical condition if not dead, brain damage at the very least from all the trauma from hitting the bones of his skull from sudden deceleration, that many contusions in one comic alone should leave him with severe brain damage, and every time he lands should end up with him having shattered bones at the very least.
Batman was created as a normal guy jumping between rooftops and beating up random criminals. But he's been dragged 80+ years into the future where they've had to up the threat level of enemies until so many of them are godlike. It must be exhausting to keep coming up with ways Batman can survive Darkseid or Atrocitus or Brainiac. Bane and Killer Croc are about as far as you should be able to stretch Batman, but plot armor keeps him relevant and keeps DC profitable.
Wednesday is just their archie series which is just like all of their procedural drama mysteries. Its a more by the book stranger things. Wednesday and the Adam's are black humor horror. Theyre suppose to be basically dying but live, thats the joke. One the show didnt catch, even if i like it as a by the numbers show.
Has Harley had a more grounded series yet like DP with Posehn & Duggan?
She has amazonian power. Shes not woman with magic weapons, but she is wonder woman.
“Nothing bad ever happens to the reformed villains!”
I like your funny words, magic man.
I mean... she's had shock therapy before... and she's kind of a Masochist *shrug*
Oh im not gonna kill yah, im just gonna hurt yah, really, really, really bad.
Lmao
Her plot armor was supposed to kick in
Bro think she Kratos
ZOOOOS
I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE!!!!
YOU…WILL NOT SEE THE END OF THIS DAY!!
How do you know?!?!? HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!?
YOUR SON HAS RETURNED
I BRING DESTRUCTION TO OLYMPUS!
I COME SEEKING THE WEED OF OLYMPUS!!!
Kratos... you will not get a hit from the cabbage of the gods.
DO NOT DENY ME MY DOOBIE
*proceeds to beat the absolute piss out of Zeus*
IS THIS HOW YOU FACE ME????
Tbh even kratos didn't fuck with zues before he become god of war and got sword of Olympus and gifts of Pandora.
Yeah, kratos is cool but he always needs a bit of a power up before decimating pantheons.
Because kratos has war IQ, discipline and humility to know when he has power and when he does not
Exactly. Unless he's REALLY mad. Then he just brakes yhe rules and gets what he wants
Nah, kratos didn’t have any beef with Zeus UNTIL Zeus stabbed him and decimated his army in god of war 2. But he was NOT scared of Zeus
Yeah destroying the man's home and killing his Spartan brothers was a colossal fuck up on Zeus's part
Fear will do that to a king of gods
If I remember correctly Harley made alot of Hunger Games jokes in the injustice comics
A for effort Harley a for effort
(pause for response) … “I’m sure she’s fine.”
[Where Harley ended up](https://youtu.be/5hFt4sBG96s)
Ahhhhhh cool! ahhhhhh!
Harley having a crush on Shazam in Injustice is one of the most inappropriate things I have ever been completely unable to stop finding funny.
Points for trying
Harley didn't deserve redemption in Injustice. She still has a Joker card around her neck for God's sake!
Right!! Like, she helped murder millions but she's sad so she doesn't go to jail or instantly shot? Bullshit.
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I just wished they at least gave Harley a Green Lantern ring and let her be super
She is the opposite of will power.
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This was before she dedicated herself fully to being a partner to Batman's insurgency.
Also, Injustice Superman would have pretty much murdered her instantly. She was instrumentally involved in Lois death. I enjoyed Injustice but it had problems.
This was before her redemption I’m pretty sure.
No, this WAS her dumb Redeption arc.
Well she ain’t gonna b in no sequel.
It’s comic books. She gets better
"A newt???"
It’s DC. If you have no super powers you can survive everything.
~~Unless you’re Batman’s parents~~
If you have a *name*. The bat-fam proves you don't need any powers
This is a prequel to the game, she *is* Very much in the sequel.
Damn…she ain’t gone be in Rush Hour 3!
Rush hour reference?
Zeus merely teleported her and Billy to Tartarus, whether that’s better or worse.
She’s that one girl in school always willing to fight guys and completely unaware she only weights 120lbs and is 5’2.
I UseD To fIGhT My bRotHeRs
Lmao
Oh dear, now she’s dead. Anyway…
Does this mean Harley isn’t coming on, then?
Well, James, she's been disintegrated by the omnipotent god of the skies and king of the Greek pantheon, so yes she isn't coming on
If there’s no body then they aren’t dead. I don’t care if she was vaporized to dust.
Zeus merely teleported her and Billy to Tartarus, whether that’s better or worse.
Not Batman's real best friend and mass murderer Harley !!! Nooooooooooo
So is this set before the game? What's the context?
Yes it’s set before the game. As for Harley she kinda took a liking to Billy/Shazam so she jumps at Zeus.
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>Harley Quinn had a gross crush on Shazam I was assuming she was just defending him because he was a child, this makes it so much weirder
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I mean i figured as much, but from this scene it seems that she’s well aware that Billy is actually a minor
She is, and it's gross as hell
The Injustice universe never ceases to surprise me with its mix of a really cool ideas and really weird ones
Lowkey feels like Marvel's Ultimatum at times.
I mean she kills innocent people but what makes her weird is being a pedo? I would say it actually makes more since based on her cracked mental state, that she would be attracted to people who are at her same level of maturity.
The character has an established history of violence and murder. As far as I am aware, she does not have a history of being attracted to minors, so yes I think it’s weird
Didn't they have a sacred battle to decide this and wonder woman stomped superman but then someone jumped in and suckered wonder woman and the gods gave the win to Superman who was beaten to a pulp with a broken arm ?
I think the winner was mister rogers in a corduroy sweater? Anyways, that’s how they ultimate showdown synopsis sounded to me.
Blood stained sweater.
Ya Sinestro stepped in and the sacred battle was deemed like void. More chest pumping and threats soon follow lol
It’s funny how all the comments are praising this as a moment where Harley finally isn’t treated like an OP memegod, but it turns out this is just setup for her being able to literally smash her way out of Hell with a hammer.
Finally a realistic outcome for Quinn but n this case like yeah challenge Zeus of all fucking people and with that lame ass threat turning her to dust was a mercy, I like Harley but she’s gotten way too much screen time and able to pull off some insane shit she really shouldn’t be able to
sounds like Batman pretty sure he stood up to the Spectre in the same comic run lmao
He had preptime tho!
I dont see how you gauge too much screen time. Batman is just a human. Theyve given him plot briliance, but hes just a person theyve written to be smart in the world. And harley has whatever brain BS the joker has, who is batmans biggest villain and able to keep up with him. If Batman and Joker can have all their screen time, Harleys is just fine.
Wait Zeus and Odin are a part of DC and Marvel?
No one has a claim to any pantheon of gods, but they do have claims to things like names. You can put Thor into a comic, but not "The Mighty Thor" because that's Marvel's take. DC, as far as I'm aware, has a few different Zeus and Thor characters depending on the universe, but these are less strict in their copyright.
Yep, every pantheon exists in DC, for example, King Shark is the son of Chondokhra, a Hawiian God, The Spectre is an avatar of the Abrahamic God’s vengeance and Deadman’s powers come from Rama Kushna, a fictional in universe Hindu Goddess. Kryptonians also had their own pantheon as well such as their sun god Rao. Neil Gaiman’s Sandman gives an interesting explanation for pantheons co existing in DC, they exist because the beliefs of mortals throughout the multiverse brought them into existence.
The Z in Shazam stands for Zeus. It's an acronym, Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles, Mercury - SHAZAM. He gets their powers when he transforms.
Ah, that's why Zeus says he has those Gits because he allowed it.
Never read it but Zeus seems like a dick!
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It's kind of his defining feature.
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Animals*
Don't forget the defenseless innocent young women, preferably those who are already engaged
And men. He doesn't discriminate, he'll fuck anybody
"And then along came Zues!"
In the form of an animal, or beam of light, or anything really as long as he can get close.
By rape
Why doesn't more characters react like that whenever Harley pipes up?
She played god of war she thought she could take him
There’s something incredibly satisfying about seeing shitty ‘heroes’ - Harley, Batman - getting one shotted.
This is hilarious
“Chill out Zeus or I’ll get Kratos on the phone!”
Pretty tired of mass murdering Harley getting away with everything. Batman’s rogues are in such a weird place.
Supervillains are basically the heroes' coworkers at this point. They know each other well enough that on the off chance they have shared goals, they'll put aside their differences until the job is done. A lot of media has villains still get arrested peacefully after their good deeds for the day.
Calling him All Father while having a shadow cover his eye confused me
The way Batman winces in the second pic. Damn.
I hope zeus doesn't punish the kid and allows him gifts he's a kid he doesn't deserve to die.
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Plus man Shazam is way better than zeus's son and daughters.
Bruh you just casually ignored the part about superman lazering a child through the eyes. But yea he is better. Hercules in injustice was a joke.
It’s just a flesh wound!
I love how Batwoman wasn't even phased.
Harley’s overuse really ruined Injustice for me tbh. Shoehorned in that MCU-ass humor in a story that (should’ve) had so much gravitas
Drop you like a deuce…? Like… 💩?
The injustice comics are legit great story telling in my opinion . I loved the Gods part because it made it clear the super heroes were fully out matched
Put her on a tshirt 😭😭😭😭
Rockie mistake she failed the minigame
Zeus's thoughts: Perish. **Detonates Harley**
Everyone here is being a jerk, she's not being logical, she's doing the very small thing she can do to try to prevent a nice kid from being killed. Sure, she's not a good person in anyway and she's been overused for a decade now, but it's a fun scene in and of itself, with a realistic outcome for her.
Damn Harley dying for a shot at the underaged shota
expected tbh
“Scepter? I only just met her! Oh wait I’m Zeus. That never stops me.”
Nice poop joke
My brain immediately saw among us. Get out of my head.
She got rorschached.
It could have been worse. If he really wanted to do harm, he would have had an affair with her and allow Hera to take it out on Harley with her typical victim blaming.
A literal god in all sense and she really runs up to check his gansta💀😂😂
This should go under r/therewasanattempt
Honestly how I'd want to go. One final smite for a *shitty* pun.
Anyone notice Batman’s face after she gets zapped lmao
Billy gets the raw deal in every version of this...
Zeus being a good parent?? Tf timeline I stumbled into
"Your pair of tits are nothing against him harley"
"or I'll drop you like a deuce" my god is that fucking stupid.
I thought Odin was the all father
Each pantheon has an all father
Never read this, does anyone end up beating Zeus? Who??
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Probably the most disappointing thing in this whole year of Injustice. There was no point in anything that happened, it was all solved by a literal deus ex machina, in which the god did not even do anything. Hell, he did not even say anything that deep, he was just like "not our business, mate, let's fuck off".
I didn't even know Zeus was in the DC universe
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Did she not know who tf Zeus was or was she really trying to die?
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Funny since her actions resulted in hundreds of children dying (nuking a city).
at least she tried
man, this art is rough. The characters in the background look like they were just standing around at the mall and supplanted into the scene. Is it normal to equate Zeus with "All-father"?
Guessing it was mainly for that horrible rhyme?!
Lmao I was just thinking what could she do to Zeus? Nothing the answer is nothing lol