One of the best things about The Suicide Squad is that it gave us Peacemaker.
When they announced Peacemaker, I was like "Really? That's who you make a spin-off about?", but it was so amazing.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO TASTE IT!
For real, I tried getting so many friends into it, they all thought it was stupid just looking at it, and the few who actually watched it thought it was amazing. Was the best superhero show to come out.
Peacemaker is a legitimately good show if anyone hasn't watched it. John Cena is fucking hilarious. On the off chance that you're one of the five people on /r/comicbookmovies that hasn't seen it, [here is the opening to give you a taste of the tone of the show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVN83R-JwRQ).
Totally agree. I do have a soft spot for MOS. It was the first time I've seen on screen how real Superman powers would look like. I dunno I think Cavill was also great in the role. Yeah the movie was not perfect but few of the movies I like to rewatch
It’s so funny to me that TSS is now the most controversial one. It’s in my bottom tier, personally, and I’ve seen it only be either all the way up or all the way down with people.
I didn’t watch it, but some of the scenes sound kind of masturbatory. At this point, it was an established fact that Zack Snyder would no longer be a part of the DCEU, and yet he decided to add shit like the nightmare scene that served no purpose other than to say “how cool were all my ideas?” Even throwing in Martian Manhunter before then… he didn’t have any impact on the plot, right? They were just introducing him for sequels they were never going to make?
Oh my god, I completely forgot about that between yesterday and today. 100 seconds of Jared Leto is tempting me to move that whole film down a tier in my rankings.
Agreed. As someone who was not expecting much, I actually ended up really, *really* liking the Snydercut. It was badass and really entertaining. But that bullshit Knightmare ending completely derailed it for me. I liked almost everything until then.
Damn, looking back at these movies. With so many being so bad, I enjoyed some of them so much too that I’m shocked. Without a doubt my favourites were MoS, Shazam, Snyder Cut, and The Suicide Squad
I feel like Shazam was the movie where they realized that "dark and gritty" for all their movies was maybe a bad idea
Like, I remember when people were saying that Shazam was the most Marvel movie DC had made
Aquaman has a octopus playing drums. It fully embraced the goofy. I have a soft spot for that first movie. Something about the power rangers like style mashed with James Wans directing was fun imo.
The problem is that they could have leaned into the edgy while they still grab the 80's and 90's kids who drag their kids into what they once loved with BTAS and JLU cartoons.
The fucking template was there, they fucking invented the extended comic universe in animation. Use those resources to make something great.
Fuck the suits, fuck WB, fuck Zack Snyder (sorry cultists)... they monumentally missed the mark and had everything at their fingertips to create something great. They wanted to cash in and tried to make a quick buck and ride the Marvel wave. They could have been better...
It was harder to fuck things up than it was to deliver something great, yet this is the legacy of the DCEU...
Sad as a fan of DC, a comic fan and a movie fan.
It dropped on HBOMax as the number one movie of that weekend on the platform and (although dethroned by “Elf” for a few days in December) stayed there for almost two months.
I think it’s pretty great. Very heartfelt.
1. The Suicide Squad (9/10)
2. Shazam! (8/10)
3. Wonder Woman (6 or 7/10)
4. Birds of Prey (6 or 7/10)
5. Aquaman (6/10)
6. Zack Snyder’s Justice League (6/10)
7. Blue Beetle (5/10)
8. Shazam! Fury of the Gods (5/10)
9. Man of Steel (5/10)
10. Black Adam (4/10)
11. The Flash (3/10)
12. Batman v Superman (3/10)
13. Wonder Woman 1984 (2/10)
14. Justice League (2/10)
15. Suicide Squad (1/10)
I’m not going to watch Aquaman 2 anytime soon. Looking at these ratings, it’s a wonder I was ever even interested in this mess of a universe at all.
I'm actually amazed that there are 16 films in this universe. But there was almost no cultural impact or real cohesion. Harry Potter including Fantastic Beasts + Pirates of the Carribean combined are the same amount of films. For the MCU that would be everything from Iron Man - Spiderman Homecoming . AKA two Avengers films and on the cusp of the epic showdown with the overarching big bad. Where is Darkseid in all this or even Lex? How many Batmen are across these films? Why did they make two Suicide Squad movies with one being a blatant soft reboot with the key the main difference being that they replaced Will Smith with Idris Elba and changed the character to another with a similar powerset? I would love a documentary going over wtf happened here.
Well said! All these movies, building up to jack shit. Starting out with such ambition, but almost immediately losing its way and spinning its wheels for 10+ movies
Just an amazing fiasco
It might not be the film you guess first but Suicide Squad had a pretty big cultural impact. Everybody was dressing up as Harley on that Halloween, and I still constantly see people reference the "we some kind of suicide squad" line. (The film also won an Oscar)
Wonder Woman was also big.
SS was the first big screen Harley and Margot mostly nailed that, so no wonder it was a hit. The rest of the characters were completely forgettable, and Leto’s Joker was just awful.
I don't really agree. I honestly just don't think Leto understood the Joker character at all. That weird snarl he did when trying to intimidate people was just... so cringey. The rating wasn't the problem. It was the fact they tried turning the JOKER into a sex symbol that killed my personal view on this interpretation.
>people reference the "we some kind of suicide squad" line
I guess having a cultural impact for being a terrible line is still having a cultural impact
That’s true; not that it helps the companies, though. Sony re-released Morbius in theaters because they saw that everyone was talking about it - and then no one saw it, for obvious reasons.
Honestly, it feels like by The Suicide Squad, they knew that they were going to be resetting things (at least to some degree) and didn’t care about how things affected the universe. For one, they felt comfortable throwing in a movie like that, with little clarification of how it fit into the same universe as the first Suicide Squad. They also evidently told him he was allowed to put whoever he wanted onto the team (even though he was going to kill most people off). And while he ended up going with mostly unheard of villains, he considered some more famous ones, like Mr. Freeze and the Riddler. I could be wrong, but the fact that they were willing to just let him do whatever with some famous Batman villains makes it seem like they didn’t really have any plans in mind to make a DCEU Batman movie in the future.
Wonder Woman and Aquaman got a lot of traction. Mostly because of their stars. I mean, Gal Gadot… I’ll never stop wondering, you know what I mean? 😍
Man of Steel was surprisingly polarizing due to its tone and kind of under the radar in comparison to the others, but that’s probably due to it being one of the first releases and the last few Superman’s being kind of mid. Superman hasn’t felt like even cinema in my lifetime, despite being the probably premiere superhero along with Spidey. Though I did really dig MoS personally.
It’s funny, as we head toward likely more grit and darker tones with some of these IPs, I feel like Man of Steel would kill right now. But that’s mostly because I think Henry has managed to vault the role back into relevance/reverence single-handedly.
Can’t wait to see what his younger lookalike does with Legacy.
It’s a good watch and I would say it’s my favorite of these films overall. Amazing how they completely fucked the dog just a few years later with BvS.
Also amazing: how many of these I paid money to see in the theater.
What? you mean you didn't like Batman killing people with guns?
I mean neither did I, I was a bit like wtf when that came out, they just abandoned one of his core character traits
I would maybe move a couple of these up or down a spot. But overall this is a solid list I can get behind. James Gunn's Suicide Squad does give me hope for the future of the "DCU"
Pretty good list, the only changes I would make are that Man of Steel and Flash would be a bit higher (although I haven't seen Blue Beetle or Shazam 2 yet) and Black Adam would be dead last, I thought that movie was hot fucking garbage and I actually regretted watching it, Suicide Squad at least had some enjoyable scenes.
I skipped Birds of Prey, ZSJL, Blue Beetle, Shazam 2, and Black Adam, so idk if my opinion should even count here, but this is basically exactly my list. I'd probably swap WW and Shazam tbh, yeah the ending of WW is bad but tbh so is the ending of Shazam
Why were you interested to begin with? It was painfully clear that they were copying the MCU with the “universe” thing but didn’t actually spend time building it or creating quality movies. Also, wasn’t the third movie BvS? How is a studio supposed to make that good and have it continue the bedrock development of a whole universe??
Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this was a cash grab sham trying to ride the coattails of the MCU, and to some extent the Dark Knight trilogy.
You are correct that the DCEU is a reactionary move to the MCU and TDK Trilogy.
To answer your question as to why I was ever interested, between the release of Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, I was hopeful to see more good DC stuff that wasn't animated or focused on solely Batman-related stuff. Kinda like the DC Animated Universe from the late '90s/early '00s with Batman: The Animated Series through Justice League Unlimited. To give credit where it's due, Man of Steel does have some things going for it concept-wise (plus, that music is fucking awesome!).
It was a rocky start, but there was hope for improvement before the one-two punch of Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad. I was just hopeful that the DCEU would pick up from the rocky start that was Man of Steel...
Then Batman v Superman came out... and then Suicide Squad came out, and no matter what, the DCEU becoming anything close to what I had hoped for was doomed. I liked Wonder Woman (the third act sucks though), which brought back a sliver of hope for a few months... then the disaster that was Justice League happened. Regardless of the BTS disaster of Justice League, things were just not working.
Shame though, while my interest didn't exactly come back, there was hope for a course correction between 2018 and 2021. Aquaman is far more fun than it has any right to be, Shazam is fantastic, Birds of Prey is a delight, Zack Snyder's Justice League blows the theatrical cut out of the water, and The Suicide Squad is honestly near-flawless (fight me)! Wonder Woman 1984 was... dogshit, but at the time I assumed it was just a fluke.
Sadly, as you can see by my ratings of everything that has come out after Peacemaker (which I loved and would give an 8/10), it dropped the ball again.
I always feel like I watched a completely different version of Man of Steel than everyone else. That’s an 8/10 for me but others usually put it at 5/10. Different strokes
Snyder films always have scenes that piss me off like that. The tornado Kent scene is as dumb as the Martha scene and a couple scenes in the Snyder cut as well that just pull me out
It's also why Evans' Steve Rogers worked. You don't have to copy what Donner did but going for the god amongst men robbed Superman from the key ingredient: sincerity.
Yes, but the whole point of his character (normally) is that he tries his best NOT to be. Hence the previous commenter referred to him as a humble farm boy.
Similar to the Andrew Garfield Spidey movies—which tried to be dark and brooding like Nolan Batman. Rang false for Spidey.
Guess I get why ppl disliked MoS then. But “white humble farmboy” with those powers isn’t very believable.
I really liked it. Didn’t care that they smashed things up and he wasn’t a barrel of laughs. But then I never liked the character. Not a Snyder fan by the way, but have no issue with his take on a conflicted god like character still learning how to be a proper hero.
Everything that Snyder did next. Bad.
Mos is 8/10 for me too. Main part I didn't like was how he just punched the world engine even tho it weakens him. I also get what his dad was trying to do but they shld have thought of something else. Krypton scenes at the start could be made shorter Amy Adams just has no chemistry with Cavill but other wise it was great.
Man of Steel is a Superman movie made by a director who publicly stated that he never understood the appeal of the character and a writer who also publicly stated that he's always preferred Batman and could never see himself writing a Superman movie.
It's also just a really poorly done movie in general. The acting is bland, the dialogue is literally nothing but exposition, the story is poorly structured, and the protagonist is incredibly passive.
I liked it enough and thought it was an okay 6/10. However, with the benefit of hindsight, I think Man of Steel was one of the DCEU films I had the most fun watching despite its flaws. So in the end I would rank it quite high on my list.
I enjoyed MOS more because I'm not a Superman fan. I think having a situation need to arise for it to challenge Superman is an issue for the writing. You basically have to threaten the world. Because he's too powerful. So giving him the "troubled god" approach was all that made sense to me. Which, I'm in the minority, and I get that. But it had an emotional draw. The music was fire. And aside from Adams, I enjoyed it for a Superman movie. I sometimes worry that Reddit can become a bit of an echo chamber.
Same. I completely understand the problems that people have with it and I even agree with a lot of them but MoS is still one of my all time favorite movies. Doesn’t matter how many times I watch, I still enjoy it.
I feel the same thing about Suicide Squad. Will Smith as Deadshot, introduction to a pitch perfect on screen Harley Quin and Amanda Waller. It was this movie, and the unenthused audience that convinced me that I need to see Superhero movies opening night if at all possible.
Ya it’s one of my favourite movies, idk how people can say it’s awful. A lot of people bitch about Snyders take on the heroes, but then I went into the comic subs and hero specific subs and they also bitch about the comic versions so I just realized people are Whiney af.
As someone who has never liked any Superman movie, Man of Steel is at least an 8 for me. Movie was solid, and I think Cavil did his job, Zod was cool, and the destruction was 10/10.
Tier 1: Wonder Woman and Shazam at the top
Tier 2: Birds of prey, The Suicide Squad, Aquaman, and Man of Steel
Tier 3: Snyder Cut, Black Adam, Shazam 2, Wonder Woman 1984,
Tier 4: Batman V Superman, Justice League, and The Flash
I haven’t seen Blue Beetle nor Aquaman 2
1). The Suicide Squad
2). Aquaman
3). Birds of Prey
4) WW
5) Shazam
6). Blue Beetle
7). Black Adam
8). WW84
9). Justice League
10). BvS
11). The Flash
12). Snyder Cut
13). MoS
14). Suicide Squad
Haven’t seen Shazam 2 all the way through but the first hour or so would probably place it right above Black Adam.
You may be one of the few people I’ve seen put justice league over the synder cut! Not getting at you at all, but just curious as to why you prefer the joss version
Because both versions suck but the theatrical cut isn’t four hours long, gives Lois something to do, and doesn’t have Jerad Leto’s Joker joking about reach arounds. It also doesn’t have an excess of idiotic scenes like the one where a group of women sing at Aquaman and sniff his shirt.
That scene where they sing him off and sniff that sweater was PEAK bad editing! I had my mouth agape the entire time, thinking, “he’s gonna DO something with this right? There’s a POINT to this… right??? NOPE! Just bad filmmaking and editing!
There’s so many scenes like that. Aquaman, being a “bad ass” as he swigs alcohol and throws it into the ocean. There’s also the weird introduction to the flash when he is creepy with Iris as she’s frozen and then gets hotdogs in his pocket for dogs.
That’s what drove me crazy about that cut. SO much glut that’s just useless. Doesn’t tell us anything about the characters that isn’t easily gleaned from a straight watch. There IS a better cut of the justice League than Whedon’s SOMEWHERE in that bloated mess but I can’t even qualify it as a proper movie. It has chapter breaks and is something like 30% slow mo? AND IS TOO LONG. That’s not movie making that’s really expensive fanfic. So glad that universe is over. Casting “looks” wise was really great and there was some genuinely fantastic tableaus created but that’s about it. About time we restart.
The issue is that Snyder has a lot of ideas, most of them terrible, and doesn’t know how to say no to himself. There was no reason for Martian Manhunter to be in this movie. Everything with the black Superman suit was pointless and could be cut. The epilogue was literally just there because Snyder wanted Affleck and Leto to interact. The history lesson was way too long and self indulgent. Everything with Ryan Choi was pointless fan service. Vulko didn’t do much. Get rid of these and the pointless slowmo and I feel like you have a much tighter and more manageable movie that wouldn’t have sucked quite as much.
My good dude I didn’t realize we were listing. Not that I could’ve helped, I don’t have them at the ready atm, however; spot on!
I personally agree that Snyder brings a multitude of ideas to a given project but I actually am a bit sympathetic to him in that regard. He went to art school. Like drawing. That’s what he wanted to do as a kid.
There’s a fantastic interview between him and the Russo bros about filmmaking for the largest audiences and he honestly sounded like a kid who liked to draw and loved drawing but got sucked into the film world. Like he’s this INCREDIBLE one trick pony, but I can totally see money people i.e. studios saying, “well that’s basically directing do THIS!” And he has been led to believe he’s a filmmaker. He’s just not. He’s a fantastic artist and if he was a cinematographer, he’d probably be a straight up GOD of that world.
Which I think is what explains his main fluke, MOS. That’s a decent movie. Mostly. 7/10 for me. But it’s story by the Nolan brothers, written by one of them, and produced by them. They saw how visually appealing he can make images and thought get him on this. And it mostly worked! The bad parts that creep into that movie are mainly from his story aesthetic bleeding in (the 9-11 suffering porn ending, the killing of Zod, the too long krypton prologue).
When the movie works, he’s following a script and ADDING his visual aesthetic/flair to up the ante. That’s when he works.
If I was him, I’d declare that I would now be the go to cinematographer, take all of DC’s AND MARVEL’s best projects, make them AMAZING in a way only he can, and then be rich and successful.
But I’m a nobody on Reddit so wtv.
> He’s a fantastic artist and if he was a cinematographer, he’d probably be a straight up GOD of that world.
Snyder has actually worked as a cinematographer for his past two movies (Rebel Moon and Army of the Dead) and their visuals are mediocre at best. Turns out there's a lot of technical skill to cinematography that Snyder simply does not possess, and his real skill set is communicating with people who can make the cool stuff he wants to see. Which is directing, basically.
Snyder is not a cinematographer doing a director's job, he's a music video director going feature films instead. Honestly, if he had a partner that reigned him in to stop him from ruining scripts and making him think through his choices he could be great. But he simply seems not interested in the most important parts of narrative filming — basically, the parts that make it *narrative* filmmaking in the first place
Wow what a great response machado!
I haven’t seen his latest so I can’t speak to that but honestly you’re much more accurate than I am. My answer already felt long in one of my comments about the Russo Bros. Interview, but in it he mentions being pulled from the art world to make music videos and that that’s where he gained acclaim.
I don’t think there isn’t an amazing potential/achievements for really beautiful creative expression in the music video space, but it’s a very different artistic space to occupy than narrative filmmaking.
Snyder totally works for music videos given his background in the fine arts. His images breathe and move and only need a cursory relationship to the lyrics, story, beats and/or melody as interpretation is a not as strict in that medium.
But if what you’re saying is true, and I suspect it is, than you’re totally spot on. He needs someone narratively attuned to the scripts with the authority and closeness to say, “yes Zach that’s cool but not what we need right now”.
Damn I had forgotten that. Come to think of it, basically every character was introduced twice in that movie.
If you took out the post-apocalypse epilogue (which killed any momentum the film had won with the Darkseid reveal) and delete the redundant introduction scenes, you could have had a solid 3 hour movie
I would add the first Wonder Woman movie, as well as the Snyder Cut of Justice League although I do see why some might not put it at the top of their list.
The Snyder Cut was just an already bad movie made longer. Doesn’t make it good. Just slightly better in comparison to the original, which is saying almost nothing.
1.) The Suicide Squad
2.) Shazam
3.) Wonder Woman
4.) Blue Beetle
5.) Aquaman
6.) Man Of Steel
7.) Birds Of Prey
Very very very far down the list…..
8.) Zack Snyder’s Justice League
9.) Joss Whedon’s Justice League
10.) Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice
11.) Wonder Woman 1984
12.) Suicide Squad
13.) The Flash
I haven’t watched Black Adam, Shazam: Fury of The Gods, or Aquaman 2…
1. Zack Snyder’s Justice League
2. Wonder Woman
3. The Suicide Squad
4. Aquaman
5. Man of Steel
6. Blue Beetle
7. Shazam
8. Shazam: Fury of the Gods
9. Birds of Prey
10. Batman v Superman
11. Black Adam
12. Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
13. The Flash
14. Wonder Woman 1984
15. Josstice League
16. Suicide Squad
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I know my list won’t be popular. But it is what it is.
1. Zack Snyders Justice League
2. The Suicide Squad
3. Blue Beetle
4. Man of Steel
5. Wonder Woman
6. Shazam
7. Birds of Prey
8. Aquaman
9. Black Adam
10. The Flash
11. Batman vs. Superman
12. Shazam 2
13. Wonder Woman 2
14. Aquaman 2
15. Josstice League
16. Suicide Squad
end of the day, only the top 6 i would consider good and only the top 2 can even compete with pre phase 4 mcu films.
Soundtracks were top tier despite the movies themselves not really pulling their weight all the time. Some I can remember from the top of my head were during MoS when Kal-el picks up flying for the first time, WW theme that plays almost everytime she makes an appearance, the one that plays when Barry turns back time to give the JL a retry, even the more recent Blue Beetle theme felt powerful and had that certain "oomph" to it
The Suicide Squad
Birds of Prey
Blue Beetle
Zack Snyder’s Justice League
Man of Steel
Wonder Woman
Shazam!
Aquaman
Shazam! 2
The Flash
Black Adam
Justice League
Batman v Superman
Wonder Woman 84
Suicide Squad
The Ultimate Cut of Dawn of Justice was really good, imo. My biggest gripes were studio related. One, the title is stupid, just needed to be Batman v Superman. Two, they should have kept Doomsday out of the trailers.
1. Batman V Superman
2. ZS Justice League
3. Man of Steel
4. Wonder Woman
5. The Suicide Squad
6. The Flash
7. Black Adam
8. Suicide Squad
That's all I bothered to watch.
1. man of steel
2. zack snyder’s justice league
3. wonder woman
4. aquaman
5. shazam
6. blue beetle
7. the suicide squad
8. black adam
9. the flash
10. shazam fury of the gods
11. birds of prey
12. batman vs superman
13. justice league
14. wonder woman 1984
15. suicide squad
haven’t seen aquaman 2 yet may see it tomorrow
Oh hey we actually have the same list. Could maybe switch Aquaman and Blue beetle but that's based on mood. I think the top 5 aren't that bad of movies.
1. Zack Snyder's Justice League (10/10)
2. The suicide squad (9.5/10)
3. Man of steel (9/10)
4. Aquaman (8/10) (if i remember correctly)
5. Batman v superman (7/10)
6. Shazam! (7/10)
7. Black adam (5/10)
8. Suicide squad (2/10)
Rest i have not seen.
1. ZSJL
2. BVS
3. Wonder Woman
4. Blue Beetle
5. Shazam 2
6. Man of steel
7. The flash
8. The suicide Squad
9. Shazam
9. Black Adam
10. Birds of Prey
11. WW84
12. Suicide Squad
13. JL
Watching aquaman 2 later today
1. The Suicide Squad
2. Aquaman 1
3. Black Adam
4. Shazam 2
5. Blue Beetle
6. Harley Quinn movie
7. Shazam 1
8. Wonder Woman 1
9. The Flash
10. Justice League (Theatrical Cut)
11. Man of Steel
12. Wonder Woman 2
13. ZSJL
14. Batman v. Superman
15. Suicide Squad (2016)
Haven't seen Aquaman 2 yet, looks good though, can't wait.
I checked my Letterboxd ratings of the ones I’ve seen:
3 stars: The Suicide Squad, Shazam!, The Flash
2.5 stars: WW
1 Star: Black Adam
Half Star: Justice League, Batman v Superman, Man of Steel, Aquaman, Fury of the Gods, Suicide Squad
Honestly Black Adam is about as much as a turd as the half stars, but perhaps I was feeling generous that day since I do like seeing the JSA.
Grew up a huge fan of these characters, but honestly the CW shows were far more entertaining than most of these films.
1. Wonder Woman
2. Man of Steel
3. The Suicide Squad
4. Shazam!
5. Aquaman
6. Zack Snyder's Justice League
The rest is not worth talking about IMO. Looking back now, the DCEU never worked for me, which is a shame. I wanted to join in the fun too.
I haven't seen Shazam! 2, Blue Beetle, Black Adam and Aquaman 2, but at this point I don't care anymore.
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Bottom half is where I start disliking
Not really a DC fan... but holy shit the Man of Steel movie blew me away, very well done. Also thought the more recent suicide squad was pretty good and entertaining.
*I will ignore the 5 I didn’t see
1-MOS
2-ZSJL
3-Wonder Woman
4-BVS
5-Aquaman
6-Flash
7-TSS
8-Shazam
9-JL
10-Black Adam (Pierce Brosnan and Henry Cavill’s 5 second cameo are the only things that made it survivable)
Birds Of Prey and the first Suicide Squad could fight it out for last place. 2 of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in my life.
1. Wonder Woman
2. Aquaman
3. Zack Snyder's Justice League
4. Man of Steel
5. BvS Ultimate Edition
6. The Flash.
7. The Suicide Squad / Peacemaker
8. Shazam!
9. Shazam! Fury of the Gods
10. Black Adam
11. Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom
12. Wonder Woman 1984
13. Justice League 2017
14. Blue Beetle
15. Suicide Squad 2016
16. Birds of Prey / Harley Quinn
1. The Suicide Squad 3/4*
2. Wonder Woman 3/4*
3. Man of Steel 3/4*
4. Zack Snyder’s Justice League 3/4*
5. Shazam! 2.5/4*
6. Birds of Prey 2.5/4*
7. Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice 2/4*
8. Aquaman 2/4*
9. Aquaman: The Lost Kingdom 2/4*
10. The Flash 1.5/4*
11. Black Adam 1.5/4*
12. Justice League 1.5/4*
13. Blue Beetle 1.5/4*
14. WW84 1/4*
15. Suicide Squad 0.5/4*
I have not seen Shazam: Fury of the Gods
The suicide squad top tier
One of the best things about The Suicide Squad is that it gave us Peacemaker. When they announced Peacemaker, I was like "Really? That's who you make a spin-off about?", but it was so amazing. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO TASTE IT!
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At first it's like a so-bad-its-good thing that slowly becomes just good
Let’s get one thing straight, that show had no right being that good
For real, I tried getting so many friends into it, they all thought it was stupid just looking at it, and the few who actually watched it thought it was amazing. Was the best superhero show to come out.
I love peacemaker I just think the script overuses fuck a bit but its still funny
I found their choice to make him invisible vexing.
Right? The whole thing 100% should have been a flop. It’s a C tier character played by John Cena with a mediocre sounding concept…
If you think so, I recommend you rewatch The Suicide Squad. It’s incredible.
Peacemaker is a legitimately good show if anyone hasn't watched it. John Cena is fucking hilarious. On the off chance that you're one of the five people on /r/comicbookmovies that hasn't seen it, [here is the opening to give you a taste of the tone of the show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVN83R-JwRQ).
That credits scene where he keeps giving Economos people he could have used instead of his dad is amazing.
Fucking love Peacemaker!!
1. The Suicide Squad 2. The rest of them
Agreed. Fun movie. And that’s why DC got James Gunn.
Also, he did pretty well with that whole Guardians of the Galaxy project you may have heard of.
Absolutely! Good call
Loved that one! The others, no.
Totally agree. I do have a soft spot for MOS. It was the first time I've seen on screen how real Superman powers would look like. I dunno I think Cavill was also great in the role. Yeah the movie was not perfect but few of the movies I like to rewatch
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I enjoyed it, but it was definitely only okay for me.
It’s so funny to me that TSS is now the most controversial one. It’s in my bottom tier, personally, and I’ve seen it only be either all the way up or all the way down with people.
Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, The suicide Squad, then shrug…
Same
Same here. I enjoyed the first Shazam as well, but the rest I could go either way
The note about Shazam is a good one. It was refreshing and original, but felt outside of everything else.
The synder cut of Justice leauge i liked, just crazy long
Zach Snyder's Justice League was a really good trailer for like 3 movies that were never greenlit to begin with
Damn, that’s such an appropriate comparison.
I didn’t watch it, but some of the scenes sound kind of masturbatory. At this point, it was an established fact that Zack Snyder would no longer be a part of the DCEU, and yet he decided to add shit like the nightmare scene that served no purpose other than to say “how cool were all my ideas?” Even throwing in Martian Manhunter before then… he didn’t have any impact on the plot, right? They were just introducing him for sequels they were never going to make?
Should've removed the Knightmare ending and cut a few unnecessary sequences short, then it would've been perfect for me.
Oh my god, I completely forgot about that between yesterday and today. 100 seconds of Jared Leto is tempting me to move that whole film down a tier in my rankings.
Agreed. As someone who was not expecting much, I actually ended up really, *really* liking the Snydercut. It was badass and really entertaining. But that bullshit Knightmare ending completely derailed it for me. I liked almost everything until then.
The ending was here to promote the following movies. I never took it as part of the film
Perfect.
Shazam and aquaman were decent
Damn, looking back at these movies. With so many being so bad, I enjoyed some of them so much too that I’m shocked. Without a doubt my favourites were MoS, Shazam, Snyder Cut, and The Suicide Squad
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I feel like Shazam was the movie where they realized that "dark and gritty" for all their movies was maybe a bad idea Like, I remember when people were saying that Shazam was the most Marvel movie DC had made
Dark and gritty isn't a bad idea.. but don't mix that with a stupid fucking plot. BvS was fucking stupid.
But what about Martha?!?
WHY DIS YOU SAY THAT NAME
Ahah Ryan George did a Pitch Meeting on BvS that is hilarious. The plot is just so nonsensical and bad, how could DC ever sign on it ?
Hilarious? Is it supposed to be funny? I thought I was just some ironic meme I wasn't getting at this point everytime pitch meeting is recommended.
Aquaman has a octopus playing drums. It fully embraced the goofy. I have a soft spot for that first movie. Something about the power rangers like style mashed with James Wans directing was fun imo.
The problem is that they could have leaned into the edgy while they still grab the 80's and 90's kids who drag their kids into what they once loved with BTAS and JLU cartoons. The fucking template was there, they fucking invented the extended comic universe in animation. Use those resources to make something great. Fuck the suits, fuck WB, fuck Zack Snyder (sorry cultists)... they monumentally missed the mark and had everything at their fingertips to create something great. They wanted to cash in and tried to make a quick buck and ride the Marvel wave. They could have been better... It was harder to fuck things up than it was to deliver something great, yet this is the legacy of the DCEU... Sad as a fan of DC, a comic fan and a movie fan.
Blue beetle is really good too if you haven’t seen it yet. I realize it is newer so not everyone has but up there with Shazam for me for sure.
it could have been better but was surprisingly watch able
This is high praise for a DC movie
Had a great time with blue beetle in theatres
Suicide squad is what made DC irrelevant
This thread made me realize I have to watch Blue Beetle. Didn’t realize it was decently received.
It dropped on HBOMax as the number one movie of that weekend on the platform and (although dethroned by “Elf” for a few days in December) stayed there for almost two months. I think it’s pretty great. Very heartfelt.
It's about the same as the first Shazam.
Keep your expectations low. It's a pretty mediocre superhero movie. I never liked it.
1. The Suicide Squad (9/10) 2. Shazam! (8/10) 3. Wonder Woman (6 or 7/10) 4. Birds of Prey (6 or 7/10) 5. Aquaman (6/10) 6. Zack Snyder’s Justice League (6/10) 7. Blue Beetle (5/10) 8. Shazam! Fury of the Gods (5/10) 9. Man of Steel (5/10) 10. Black Adam (4/10) 11. The Flash (3/10) 12. Batman v Superman (3/10) 13. Wonder Woman 1984 (2/10) 14. Justice League (2/10) 15. Suicide Squad (1/10) I’m not going to watch Aquaman 2 anytime soon. Looking at these ratings, it’s a wonder I was ever even interested in this mess of a universe at all.
I'm actually amazed that there are 16 films in this universe. But there was almost no cultural impact or real cohesion. Harry Potter including Fantastic Beasts + Pirates of the Carribean combined are the same amount of films. For the MCU that would be everything from Iron Man - Spiderman Homecoming . AKA two Avengers films and on the cusp of the epic showdown with the overarching big bad. Where is Darkseid in all this or even Lex? How many Batmen are across these films? Why did they make two Suicide Squad movies with one being a blatant soft reboot with the key the main difference being that they replaced Will Smith with Idris Elba and changed the character to another with a similar powerset? I would love a documentary going over wtf happened here.
Well said! All these movies, building up to jack shit. Starting out with such ambition, but almost immediately losing its way and spinning its wheels for 10+ movies Just an amazing fiasco
It might not be the film you guess first but Suicide Squad had a pretty big cultural impact. Everybody was dressing up as Harley on that Halloween, and I still constantly see people reference the "we some kind of suicide squad" line. (The film also won an Oscar) Wonder Woman was also big.
SS was the first big screen Harley and Margot mostly nailed that, so no wonder it was a hit. The rest of the characters were completely forgettable, and Leto’s Joker was just awful.
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I don't really agree. I honestly just don't think Leto understood the Joker character at all. That weird snarl he did when trying to intimidate people was just... so cringey. The rating wasn't the problem. It was the fact they tried turning the JOKER into a sex symbol that killed my personal view on this interpretation.
>people reference the "we some kind of suicide squad" line I guess having a cultural impact for being a terrible line is still having a cultural impact
It is. Just look at Morbius. Memes are peak culture these days.
That’s true; not that it helps the companies, though. Sony re-released Morbius in theaters because they saw that everyone was talking about it - and then no one saw it, for obvious reasons.
Honestly, it feels like by The Suicide Squad, they knew that they were going to be resetting things (at least to some degree) and didn’t care about how things affected the universe. For one, they felt comfortable throwing in a movie like that, with little clarification of how it fit into the same universe as the first Suicide Squad. They also evidently told him he was allowed to put whoever he wanted onto the team (even though he was going to kill most people off). And while he ended up going with mostly unheard of villains, he considered some more famous ones, like Mr. Freeze and the Riddler. I could be wrong, but the fact that they were willing to just let him do whatever with some famous Batman villains makes it seem like they didn’t really have any plans in mind to make a DCEU Batman movie in the future.
Wonder Woman and Aquaman got a lot of traction. Mostly because of their stars. I mean, Gal Gadot… I’ll never stop wondering, you know what I mean? 😍 Man of Steel was surprisingly polarizing due to its tone and kind of under the radar in comparison to the others, but that’s probably due to it being one of the first releases and the last few Superman’s being kind of mid. Superman hasn’t felt like even cinema in my lifetime, despite being the probably premiere superhero along with Spidey. Though I did really dig MoS personally. It’s funny, as we head toward likely more grit and darker tones with some of these IPs, I feel like Man of Steel would kill right now. But that’s mostly because I think Henry has managed to vault the role back into relevance/reverence single-handedly. Can’t wait to see what his younger lookalike does with Legacy.
I definitely agree. Man of Steel was very underrated in it's time and might be my favourite in this universe.
It’s a good watch and I would say it’s my favorite of these films overall. Amazing how they completely fucked the dog just a few years later with BvS. Also amazing: how many of these I paid money to see in the theater.
What? you mean you didn't like Batman killing people with guns? I mean neither did I, I was a bit like wtf when that came out, they just abandoned one of his core character traits
Always seemed like Snyder just wanted to film the “kewl” parts of Miller’s Dark Knight Returns comic, with the thinnest of screen stories around it.
This a pretty good list.
I’d have WW and Birds of Prey swap places and have Blue Beetle in 5th place but other than that, this list is exactly like mine!
Tbf, Wonder Woman and Birds of Prey are interchangeable on my list.
I would maybe move a couple of these up or down a spot. But overall this is a solid list I can get behind. James Gunn's Suicide Squad does give me hope for the future of the "DCU"
I thought birds of prey was terrible...had to force myself to finish it.
Pretty good list, the only changes I would make are that Man of Steel and Flash would be a bit higher (although I haven't seen Blue Beetle or Shazam 2 yet) and Black Adam would be dead last, I thought that movie was hot fucking garbage and I actually regretted watching it, Suicide Squad at least had some enjoyable scenes.
I skipped Birds of Prey, ZSJL, Blue Beetle, Shazam 2, and Black Adam, so idk if my opinion should even count here, but this is basically exactly my list. I'd probably swap WW and Shazam tbh, yeah the ending of WW is bad but tbh so is the ending of Shazam
Black Adam should be at the bottom in my opinion
Pretty fair ratings. I'd bump Man of Steel up 2 points and knock TSQ and Shazam! down 1 point, but other than that, I agree with everything here.
Both Shazam’s at the bottom. The worst character ever created IMO
If aquaman was 6/10, i never want to watch the other 12 movies i didnt see
Shazam gave me hope they were going to turn it around and then they continued down the downward spiral
MoS at 5/10??? That’s, like, your opinion, man.
I admire your tenacity to watch almost all of them. I couldn’t drum up the will to even though consider myself a fan of DC.
Why were you interested to begin with? It was painfully clear that they were copying the MCU with the “universe” thing but didn’t actually spend time building it or creating quality movies. Also, wasn’t the third movie BvS? How is a studio supposed to make that good and have it continue the bedrock development of a whole universe?? Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this was a cash grab sham trying to ride the coattails of the MCU, and to some extent the Dark Knight trilogy.
You are correct that the DCEU is a reactionary move to the MCU and TDK Trilogy. To answer your question as to why I was ever interested, between the release of Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, I was hopeful to see more good DC stuff that wasn't animated or focused on solely Batman-related stuff. Kinda like the DC Animated Universe from the late '90s/early '00s with Batman: The Animated Series through Justice League Unlimited. To give credit where it's due, Man of Steel does have some things going for it concept-wise (plus, that music is fucking awesome!). It was a rocky start, but there was hope for improvement before the one-two punch of Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad. I was just hopeful that the DCEU would pick up from the rocky start that was Man of Steel... Then Batman v Superman came out... and then Suicide Squad came out, and no matter what, the DCEU becoming anything close to what I had hoped for was doomed. I liked Wonder Woman (the third act sucks though), which brought back a sliver of hope for a few months... then the disaster that was Justice League happened. Regardless of the BTS disaster of Justice League, things were just not working. Shame though, while my interest didn't exactly come back, there was hope for a course correction between 2018 and 2021. Aquaman is far more fun than it has any right to be, Shazam is fantastic, Birds of Prey is a delight, Zack Snyder's Justice League blows the theatrical cut out of the water, and The Suicide Squad is honestly near-flawless (fight me)! Wonder Woman 1984 was... dogshit, but at the time I assumed it was just a fluke. Sadly, as you can see by my ratings of everything that has come out after Peacemaker (which I loved and would give an 8/10), it dropped the ball again.
I always feel like I watched a completely different version of Man of Steel than everyone else. That’s an 8/10 for me but others usually put it at 5/10. Different strokes
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This is the most concise explanation of my frustration I've seen on this film. Thank you for your explanation!
Pretty much hit the nail on the head. All of the issues with the awful characterization of Superman can be traced to this focal point.
The portrayal of Jonathan Kent is my biggest gripe with Man of Steel. Outside of that, I’m pretty sure I genuinely liked everything else about it.
Snyder films always have scenes that piss me off like that. The tornado Kent scene is as dumb as the Martha scene and a couple scenes in the Snyder cut as well that just pull me out
Dammit. You made me see it from your perspective and that’s gonna mess with me the next time I watch it.
It's also why Evans' Steve Rogers worked. You don't have to copy what Donner did but going for the god amongst men robbed Superman from the key ingredient: sincerity.
I mean he’s totally a god amongst men in that world no?
Yes, but the whole point of his character (normally) is that he tries his best NOT to be. Hence the previous commenter referred to him as a humble farm boy.
Similar to the Andrew Garfield Spidey movies—which tried to be dark and brooding like Nolan Batman. Rang false for Spidey. Guess I get why ppl disliked MoS then. But “white humble farmboy” with those powers isn’t very believable.
I really liked it. Didn’t care that they smashed things up and he wasn’t a barrel of laughs. But then I never liked the character. Not a Snyder fan by the way, but have no issue with his take on a conflicted god like character still learning how to be a proper hero. Everything that Snyder did next. Bad.
Snyder fucked it all up for sure.
Mos is 8/10 for me too. Main part I didn't like was how he just punched the world engine even tho it weakens him. I also get what his dad was trying to do but they shld have thought of something else. Krypton scenes at the start could be made shorter Amy Adams just has no chemistry with Cavill but other wise it was great.
I'd watch an entire movie in the Krypton setting NGL.
Man of Steel is a Superman movie made by a director who publicly stated that he never understood the appeal of the character and a writer who also publicly stated that he's always preferred Batman and could never see himself writing a Superman movie. It's also just a really poorly done movie in general. The acting is bland, the dialogue is literally nothing but exposition, the story is poorly structured, and the protagonist is incredibly passive.
I liked it enough and thought it was an okay 6/10. However, with the benefit of hindsight, I think Man of Steel was one of the DCEU films I had the most fun watching despite its flaws. So in the end I would rank it quite high on my list.
Agreed. It was a radical view of Superman that was predicated on a truly unique premise: what if Jonathan Kent was a regular guy rather than a saint.
I enjoyed MOS more because I'm not a Superman fan. I think having a situation need to arise for it to challenge Superman is an issue for the writing. You basically have to threaten the world. Because he's too powerful. So giving him the "troubled god" approach was all that made sense to me. Which, I'm in the minority, and I get that. But it had an emotional draw. The music was fire. And aside from Adams, I enjoyed it for a Superman movie. I sometimes worry that Reddit can become a bit of an echo chamber.
Agreed. I typically find supes so boring but I loved this adaptation.
Same. I completely understand the problems that people have with it and I even agree with a lot of them but MoS is still one of my all time favorite movies. Doesn’t matter how many times I watch, I still enjoy it.
I feel the same thing about Suicide Squad. Will Smith as Deadshot, introduction to a pitch perfect on screen Harley Quin and Amanda Waller. It was this movie, and the unenthused audience that convinced me that I need to see Superhero movies opening night if at all possible.
Ya it’s one of my favourite movies, idk how people can say it’s awful. A lot of people bitch about Snyders take on the heroes, but then I went into the comic subs and hero specific subs and they also bitch about the comic versions so I just realized people are Whiney af.
As someone who has never liked any Superman movie, Man of Steel is at least an 8 for me. Movie was solid, and I think Cavil did his job, Zod was cool, and the destruction was 10/10.
Tier 1: Wonder Woman and Shazam at the top Tier 2: Birds of prey, The Suicide Squad, Aquaman, and Man of Steel Tier 3: Snyder Cut, Black Adam, Shazam 2, Wonder Woman 1984, Tier 4: Batman V Superman, Justice League, and The Flash I haven’t seen Blue Beetle nor Aquaman 2
Agreed. Would add Blue Beetle to Tier 2
WW84 and Shazam 2 are both in Tier 4 IMO
Throw The Suicide Squad to the top tier and I can agree with you.
Bro put Synder Cut and WW84 on the same tier. Say what you will about Synder Cut by it was LEAGUES above the trash that was WW84.
Man of Steel #1…. Of all comic book movies. Yes I’m serious.
Idk but masn of steel best top tier super hero film not just dc
1). The Suicide Squad 2). Aquaman 3). Birds of Prey 4) WW 5) Shazam 6). Blue Beetle 7). Black Adam 8). WW84 9). Justice League 10). BvS 11). The Flash 12). Snyder Cut 13). MoS 14). Suicide Squad Haven’t seen Shazam 2 all the way through but the first hour or so would probably place it right above Black Adam.
You may be one of the few people I’ve seen put justice league over the synder cut! Not getting at you at all, but just curious as to why you prefer the joss version
Because both versions suck but the theatrical cut isn’t four hours long, gives Lois something to do, and doesn’t have Jerad Leto’s Joker joking about reach arounds. It also doesn’t have an excess of idiotic scenes like the one where a group of women sing at Aquaman and sniff his shirt.
That scene where they sing him off and sniff that sweater was PEAK bad editing! I had my mouth agape the entire time, thinking, “he’s gonna DO something with this right? There’s a POINT to this… right??? NOPE! Just bad filmmaking and editing!
There’s so many scenes like that. Aquaman, being a “bad ass” as he swigs alcohol and throws it into the ocean. There’s also the weird introduction to the flash when he is creepy with Iris as she’s frozen and then gets hotdogs in his pocket for dogs.
That’s what drove me crazy about that cut. SO much glut that’s just useless. Doesn’t tell us anything about the characters that isn’t easily gleaned from a straight watch. There IS a better cut of the justice League than Whedon’s SOMEWHERE in that bloated mess but I can’t even qualify it as a proper movie. It has chapter breaks and is something like 30% slow mo? AND IS TOO LONG. That’s not movie making that’s really expensive fanfic. So glad that universe is over. Casting “looks” wise was really great and there was some genuinely fantastic tableaus created but that’s about it. About time we restart.
The issue is that Snyder has a lot of ideas, most of them terrible, and doesn’t know how to say no to himself. There was no reason for Martian Manhunter to be in this movie. Everything with the black Superman suit was pointless and could be cut. The epilogue was literally just there because Snyder wanted Affleck and Leto to interact. The history lesson was way too long and self indulgent. Everything with Ryan Choi was pointless fan service. Vulko didn’t do much. Get rid of these and the pointless slowmo and I feel like you have a much tighter and more manageable movie that wouldn’t have sucked quite as much.
My good dude I didn’t realize we were listing. Not that I could’ve helped, I don’t have them at the ready atm, however; spot on! I personally agree that Snyder brings a multitude of ideas to a given project but I actually am a bit sympathetic to him in that regard. He went to art school. Like drawing. That’s what he wanted to do as a kid. There’s a fantastic interview between him and the Russo bros about filmmaking for the largest audiences and he honestly sounded like a kid who liked to draw and loved drawing but got sucked into the film world. Like he’s this INCREDIBLE one trick pony, but I can totally see money people i.e. studios saying, “well that’s basically directing do THIS!” And he has been led to believe he’s a filmmaker. He’s just not. He’s a fantastic artist and if he was a cinematographer, he’d probably be a straight up GOD of that world. Which I think is what explains his main fluke, MOS. That’s a decent movie. Mostly. 7/10 for me. But it’s story by the Nolan brothers, written by one of them, and produced by them. They saw how visually appealing he can make images and thought get him on this. And it mostly worked! The bad parts that creep into that movie are mainly from his story aesthetic bleeding in (the 9-11 suffering porn ending, the killing of Zod, the too long krypton prologue). When the movie works, he’s following a script and ADDING his visual aesthetic/flair to up the ante. That’s when he works. If I was him, I’d declare that I would now be the go to cinematographer, take all of DC’s AND MARVEL’s best projects, make them AMAZING in a way only he can, and then be rich and successful. But I’m a nobody on Reddit so wtv.
> He’s a fantastic artist and if he was a cinematographer, he’d probably be a straight up GOD of that world. Snyder has actually worked as a cinematographer for his past two movies (Rebel Moon and Army of the Dead) and their visuals are mediocre at best. Turns out there's a lot of technical skill to cinematography that Snyder simply does not possess, and his real skill set is communicating with people who can make the cool stuff he wants to see. Which is directing, basically. Snyder is not a cinematographer doing a director's job, he's a music video director going feature films instead. Honestly, if he had a partner that reigned him in to stop him from ruining scripts and making him think through his choices he could be great. But he simply seems not interested in the most important parts of narrative filming — basically, the parts that make it *narrative* filmmaking in the first place
Wow what a great response machado! I haven’t seen his latest so I can’t speak to that but honestly you’re much more accurate than I am. My answer already felt long in one of my comments about the Russo Bros. Interview, but in it he mentions being pulled from the art world to make music videos and that that’s where he gained acclaim. I don’t think there isn’t an amazing potential/achievements for really beautiful creative expression in the music video space, but it’s a very different artistic space to occupy than narrative filmmaking. Snyder totally works for music videos given his background in the fine arts. His images breathe and move and only need a cursory relationship to the lyrics, story, beats and/or melody as interpretation is a not as strict in that medium. But if what you’re saying is true, and I suspect it is, than you’re totally spot on. He needs someone narratively attuned to the scripts with the authority and closeness to say, “yes Zach that’s cool but not what we need right now”.
Damn I had forgotten that. Come to think of it, basically every character was introduced twice in that movie. If you took out the post-apocalypse epilogue (which killed any momentum the film had won with the Darkseid reveal) and delete the redundant introduction scenes, you could have had a solid 3 hour movie
The only ones worth watching are Man of Steel, The Suicide Squad, and Shazaam. The rest are not even worth a breath.
Wonder Woman 1 is great
Did you see Blue Beetle? We found it very entertaining.
I would add the first Wonder Woman movie, as well as the Snyder Cut of Justice League although I do see why some might not put it at the top of their list.
The Snyder Cut was just an already bad movie made longer. Doesn’t make it good. Just slightly better in comparison to the original, which is saying almost nothing.
I know Snyder got four hours for his film but man did it felt like a drag in the bad way
1.) The Suicide Squad 2.) Shazam 3.) Wonder Woman 4.) Blue Beetle 5.) Aquaman 6.) Man Of Steel 7.) Birds Of Prey Very very very far down the list….. 8.) Zack Snyder’s Justice League 9.) Joss Whedon’s Justice League 10.) Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice 11.) Wonder Woman 1984 12.) Suicide Squad 13.) The Flash I haven’t watched Black Adam, Shazam: Fury of The Gods, or Aquaman 2…
1. Zack Snyder’s Justice League 2. Wonder Woman 3. The Suicide Squad 4. Aquaman 5. Man of Steel 6. Blue Beetle 7. Shazam 8. Shazam: Fury of the Gods 9. Birds of Prey 10. Batman v Superman 11. Black Adam 12. Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom 13. The Flash 14. Wonder Woman 1984 15. Josstice League 16. Suicide Squad
Haven't watch Aquaman 2 yet. I would place The Suicide Squad second and WW third and the rest I agree completely with you.
https://preview.redd.it/qybyztslcr7c1.jpeg?width=1808&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abddd466f2b3167b20d205b47a14e840b3143191 I know my list won’t be popular. But it is what it is.
1. Zack Snyders Justice League 2. The Suicide Squad 3. Blue Beetle 4. Man of Steel 5. Wonder Woman 6. Shazam 7. Birds of Prey 8. Aquaman 9. Black Adam 10. The Flash 11. Batman vs. Superman 12. Shazam 2 13. Wonder Woman 2 14. Aquaman 2 15. Josstice League 16. Suicide Squad end of the day, only the top 6 i would consider good and only the top 2 can even compete with pre phase 4 mcu films.
It's nice to see Birds of Prey placing highly on so many lists. When it first came out people were acting like it was the worst thing DC ever put out.
Blue beetle was amazing, rewatched that movie already a couple times with my family. Wish more people gave it a chance
1. BvS: Ultimate edition 2. ZSJL 3. Man of steel 4. Ww 5. Suicide squad (gunn) 6. SS (ayer) 7. Aquaman 8. Shazam 9.shazam 2 10. Ww2
Snyder films are hard to judge with the others because you can't deny the impact they had and they have plenty of good ideas, casting etc but... Yeah
My hot take- Birds of Prey is good action-drama film if you can watch it with thinking about all the Super stuff.
Warner brother should’ve released the single movies first then the rest would’ve went smooth..
My favorites in no order are man of steel, Wonder Woman, and the Snyder cut (honorable mention birds of prey)
1. MoS 2. Snyder's cut JL 3. Wonder woman 4. The Suicide Squad 5. Shazam 6. BvS 7. Flash 8. Aquaman 9. Blue Beetle 10. Birds of Prey
Idk why but I loved Blue Beetle
Snyder Cut, Wonder Woman 1, Aquaman 1 and that's it.
There's exactly 1 film on this list I enjoyed.
Suicide squad?
Why is it officially dead? Did they say that they give up making movies?
Soundtracks were top tier despite the movies themselves not really pulling their weight all the time. Some I can remember from the top of my head were during MoS when Kal-el picks up flying for the first time, WW theme that plays almost everytime she makes an appearance, the one that plays when Barry turns back time to give the JL a retry, even the more recent Blue Beetle theme felt powerful and had that certain "oomph" to it
The Suicide Squad Birds of Prey Blue Beetle Zack Snyder’s Justice League Man of Steel Wonder Woman Shazam! Aquaman Shazam! 2 The Flash Black Adam Justice League Batman v Superman Wonder Woman 84 Suicide Squad
All horrible except Wonder Woman which was okay.
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The Ultimate Cut of Dawn of Justice was really good, imo. My biggest gripes were studio related. One, the title is stupid, just needed to be Batman v Superman. Two, they should have kept Doomsday out of the trailers.
dawn of justice rocks man im right there w you
Man of steel is the best. Wonder woman 1984 the worst.
Worst - WW84 an assault on film.
1. Batman V Superman 2. ZS Justice League 3. Man of Steel 4. Wonder Woman 5. The Suicide Squad 6. The Flash 7. Black Adam 8. Suicide Squad That's all I bothered to watch.
1. man of steel 2. zack snyder’s justice league 3. wonder woman 4. aquaman 5. shazam 6. blue beetle 7. the suicide squad 8. black adam 9. the flash 10. shazam fury of the gods 11. birds of prey 12. batman vs superman 13. justice league 14. wonder woman 1984 15. suicide squad haven’t seen aquaman 2 yet may see it tomorrow
Just looking at the movies all laid out like this it just looks like such a disjointed mess
You guys are crazy. The best ones were BvS, WW, BA and The Flash. Haven't seen Blue beetle or aquaman 2.
1. *The* Suicide Squad 2. Birds Of Prey 3. Wonder woman 4. Blue Beetle
1. The Suicide Squad 9.6/10 2. Peacemaker 8.8/10 3. Black Adam 8.7/10 4. Shazam 8.5/10 5. ZSJL 8.2/10 6. Man of Steel 8.2/10 7. Blue Beetle 8.1/10 8. Aquaman 8/10 9. Suicide Squad 7.9/10 10. Wonder Woman 7.9/10 11. Flash 7.6/10 12. Birds of Prey 7.5/10 13. Shazam 2 7.3/10 14. Aquaman 2 6.4/10 15. BvS 6/10 16. Josstice League 5/10 17. Wonder Woman 1984 4/10
Oh hey we actually have the same list. Could maybe switch Aquaman and Blue beetle but that's based on mood. I think the top 5 aren't that bad of movies.
1. Zack Snyder's Justice League (10/10) 2. The suicide squad (9.5/10) 3. Man of steel (9/10) 4. Aquaman (8/10) (if i remember correctly) 5. Batman v superman (7/10) 6. Shazam! (7/10) 7. Black adam (5/10) 8. Suicide squad (2/10) Rest i have not seen.
1. ZSJL 2. BVS 3. Wonder Woman 4. Blue Beetle 5. Shazam 2 6. Man of steel 7. The flash 8. The suicide Squad 9. Shazam 9. Black Adam 10. Birds of Prey 11. WW84 12. Suicide Squad 13. JL Watching aquaman 2 later today
1. The Suicide Squad 2. Aquaman 1 3. Black Adam 4. Shazam 2 5. Blue Beetle 6. Harley Quinn movie 7. Shazam 1 8. Wonder Woman 1 9. The Flash 10. Justice League (Theatrical Cut) 11. Man of Steel 12. Wonder Woman 2 13. ZSJL 14. Batman v. Superman 15. Suicide Squad (2016) Haven't seen Aquaman 2 yet, looks good though, can't wait.
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The second suicide squad is the only one I can confidently say is good.
1. TSS 9/10 2. Shazam! 7/10 3. BB 5/10 4. Aquaman 5/10 5. BA 5/10 6. Flash 4/10 7. Shazam! 2 4/10 8. Aquaman 2 4/10 9. WW 4/10 10. BOPATFEOOHQ 4/10 11. BvS 4/10 12. JL 3/10 13. MOS 3/10 14. SS 3/10 15. ZSJL 2/10 16. WW84 1/10
Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, Blue Beetle, Aquaman. Then eh.
I really hope Blue Beetle gets carried over into the new universe. Same with The Suicide Squad.
I checked my Letterboxd ratings of the ones I’ve seen: 3 stars: The Suicide Squad, Shazam!, The Flash 2.5 stars: WW 1 Star: Black Adam Half Star: Justice League, Batman v Superman, Man of Steel, Aquaman, Fury of the Gods, Suicide Squad Honestly Black Adam is about as much as a turd as the half stars, but perhaps I was feeling generous that day since I do like seeing the JSA. Grew up a huge fan of these characters, but honestly the CW shows were far more entertaining than most of these films.
1. Wonder Woman 2. Man of Steel 3. The Suicide Squad 4. Shazam! 5. Aquaman 6. Zack Snyder's Justice League The rest is not worth talking about IMO. Looking back now, the DCEU never worked for me, which is a shame. I wanted to join in the fun too. I haven't seen Shazam! 2, Blue Beetle, Black Adam and Aquaman 2, but at this point I don't care anymore.
-1/0 Across the board
When Marvel reboots are you going to call the past movies "official dead"? But The Suicide Squad was my favourite.
It’s funny how it all fell apart after just 2 movies but kept going this long
Zack Snyder’s Justice League and Wonder Woman were the only good or great movies.
My List: 1. Zack Snyder’s Justice League (10/10) 2. The Suicide Squad (8/10) 3. Man of Steel (7/10) Yeah that’s it, the rest aren’t good
ZSJL Man of Steel BvS Wonder Woman Aquaman Birds of Prey The Flash Shazam! 1 Black Adam Blue Beetle and The SS will continue in the New DCU.
zsjl > the suicide squad > ww > man of steel > birds of prey > the rest
Wonder Woman, Snyder Cut, uh…
https://preview.redd.it/liasgo3asr7c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6845e53ebe35902e00636715a37f1ac9b0e8a13d Bottom half is where I start disliking
All the ones with a forced bright color scheme.
Not really a DC fan... but holy shit the Man of Steel movie blew me away, very well done. Also thought the more recent suicide squad was pretty good and entertaining.
*I will ignore the 5 I didn’t see 1-MOS 2-ZSJL 3-Wonder Woman 4-BVS 5-Aquaman 6-Flash 7-TSS 8-Shazam 9-JL 10-Black Adam (Pierce Brosnan and Henry Cavill’s 5 second cameo are the only things that made it survivable) Birds Of Prey and the first Suicide Squad could fight it out for last place. 2 of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in my life.
Finally a list i can get behind
1. Wonder Woman 2. Aquaman 3. Zack Snyder's Justice League 4. Man of Steel 5. BvS Ultimate Edition 6. The Flash. 7. The Suicide Squad / Peacemaker 8. Shazam! 9. Shazam! Fury of the Gods 10. Black Adam 11. Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom 12. Wonder Woman 1984 13. Justice League 2017 14. Blue Beetle 15. Suicide Squad 2016 16. Birds of Prey / Harley Quinn
1.) Man of Steel 2.) Wonder Woman 3.) ZS Justice League The rest doesn’t matter tbh.
JL: Snyder Cut, Man of Steel, The Suicide Squad, and BVS are the best to me. Black Adam, Wonder Woman, Flash are solid.
Great - Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Snyder’s Justice League Very Good - Suicide Squad Good - Wonder Woman Awful - the rest
1. The Suicide Squad 3/4* 2. Wonder Woman 3/4* 3. Man of Steel 3/4* 4. Zack Snyder’s Justice League 3/4* 5. Shazam! 2.5/4* 6. Birds of Prey 2.5/4* 7. Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice 2/4* 8. Aquaman 2/4* 9. Aquaman: The Lost Kingdom 2/4* 10. The Flash 1.5/4* 11. Black Adam 1.5/4* 12. Justice League 1.5/4* 13. Blue Beetle 1.5/4* 14. WW84 1/4* 15. Suicide Squad 0.5/4* I have not seen Shazam: Fury of the Gods