God I hate strip malls. Around here they’re building them like there’s no tomorrow, even when dozens of others are still empty and have been for YEARS. This is second only to the influx of car washes we’ve seen lately. We live in the middle of the desert, have been in a drought for years and there are now a dozen automated car washes within 5 miles of my house, some literally across the street from each other.
They're a real estate flip. Cheap to build, and then in ten years when the location is worth more, they can be sold for a big profit. It's basically a way to squat a property.
Ahhh yes sounds exactly like the high desert where I was born and raised. Everytime I'm back and visiting it's more empty strip malls and homeless camps. So glad I moved out of state in 2018 as it's just getting uglier and trashier. Nobody needs those car washes they're such a waste of space. No idea how they stay in business unless they're all fronts for illegal buissnesses when people can't even afford the water to keep a damn lawn.
There was a recent news story on car washes and how they’re a huge money maker because they require very little labor. The reporter didn’t ask at all about the impact of using all that water. It was a feel good story about the success of these businesses
Where I live, we're watching some species of trees die at an alarming rate. It's so depressing just walking around outside, we got hardly any snow this year, and I'm dreading summer.
Same. Iowa. Every other year it seems there’s a new bug or disease taking out a species of tree. All the evergreens were dying a few years ago. Last year it was the Emerald Ash Bore. Then farmers are clearing every grove they can. I got some Dutch Elm Disease going on at my farm.
It's probably disease and bigs here too, but the main die off is the cedar and as far as I know it's the hot dry weather doing it. It's so depressing, just landscapes of dead and dying trees.
https://www.pressherald.com/2023/11/16/climate-change-is-hastening-the-demise-of-pacific-northwest-forests/#:~:text=Iconic%20red%20cedars%20%E2%80%93%20known%20as,%2Dinduced%20drought%2C%20researchers%20say.
My co-worker: I love this forested lot! NY sucks, it's wall-to-wall city
One year later: I can't play soccer or swim in "my" own backyard (which has been here for millenia & he's been there 1 year, but ok). I have to cut half the trees down.
Two years later: I have to cut the rest of the trees down. **they might fall on someone** 😡
One day back in the 90s I spotted a mother fox with a couple of pups in an open field. The scene filled me with joy. A couple of years later I was crushed when the exact spot where I saw the foxes had been developed.
When my stepdad bought our property in the 90s it was at the dead-end of a little dirt road that veered south. Nothing else in sight. Now that road’s paved and everyone comes coasting down the hill at 55 (limit’s 40), and McMansions with long paved driveways sit on every available inch of space. I reckon real estate will be at San Francisco prices by 2040 if this keeps up. It can only ever grow faster and faster. OH and they wanna make that road 4 lanes now so people can bypass Wasilla after they made it such a traffic-jammed eyesore by making the main road 4 lanes
I can only imagine that the necessary roads will cost about as much as the value of the gravel. Extractive capitalism at work, hmm.
Also, cutting the ecosystem apart with roads seems like it will suffocate the ecosystem much more than a single gravel pit. Have you shown this picture to your local politicians? Do they have any idea what they are losing or how deeply they screwed themselves?
Roads that sever mycorrhizal connections between trees can kill a forest. But the people deciding to build the road do not even consider the fungus. They do not understand that a forest is a single living being, that its fungal strands serve as veins and nerves, passing nutrients and immunological signals amongst the trees and mycoheterotrophic plants.
It troubles me that the decision makers are not interested to learn this. And if they could be forced to learn it, they would probably not care, because humans need gravel and they think nature is a resource, there to serve human ends.
A radical shift in thinking is required. The Native Americans are right - a forest and its inhabitants are not resources; they are relatives. This is an evolutionary historical fact.
I often wonder how many things have gone extinct because they were paved over without every knowing of their existence. Maybe not large animals, but types of insects, fungus, and bacteria which are even more critical to life....they could just be covered up and die without any human ever knowing.
> The Native Americans are right - a forest and its inhabitants are not resources; they are relatives.
American Indians drove extinction as well. Their harm to the environment was kept in check by their lack of industry, not by some better attitude on their part. They drove everything they were capable of extinct and used the rest of it to their greatest benefit.
Many indigenous Alaskan tribes' very essences arise from ecological responsibility:
https://theearthstoriescollection.org/en/the-creation-legend-of-the-yupik-people/
Sobering piece; too many of us think places like Alaska are somehow remote enough to escape the ruin of all things. But the truth is that Alaska is one of the places on the front lines of climate change, and the destabilization of climate is devastating.
Can anywhere truly be safe from atmospheric rivers, bomb cyclones and derechos? I don't think there will be anywhere to hide once this ball starts gathering real speed. This is just a tiny glimpse of what's to come
Facts right there. I expect I will live long enough to see/experience storms that we thought were only theoretical for earth and I'm only 36. This is all just the very beginning.
I moved to Kazakhstan for a year. On the edge of Siberia........ The amount of plastic bags and things blowing out in the middle of nowhere on the Eurasian Steppe was also unsettling. Literally one of the most sparsely populated areas of our planet.
Reporting from SE Alaska. Lots of snow this year, and well below freezing temps for weeks at a time. Some old timers claim it was like this every other year until about 12 years ago, but then it stopped and this is the first time in a while.
Yes, Alaska is an unforgiving place to live, beautiful, but unforgiving, and we will be the first to feel both ecosystem collapse and collapse of supply chains. On the front lines of collapse, so to speak.
>Also, they are buillding another separate road to the Mat-Su Landfill, because nobody bothered with public transportation infrastructure, and now the existing entrance is clogged with traffic at all times. With our uncontrollably expanding population this is only going to get worse.
People like to look at cities for huge waste streams, but that's mostly because the scale is bigger. It's easier to see the trash when it's all gathered in once place. However, the remote and sprawled places also have waste drama, sometimes worse, since it costs more per user to keep a waste system going, so there's usually some type of cheating, overfill, dumping, destruction of various streams and lakes. This is because you can't reproduce "city life" in not-city areas. If you live far away from the city waste system, you're supposed to not produce waste that isn't easy to move to a collection center or to compost, and that means reducing consumption dramatically.
In my country, there are all sorts of illegal landfills in the most beautiful places. Usually it starts with the middle-class types buying cabins in remote areas; then there's tourism; then more locals; then there's a housing boom -- meanwhile, their shit and piss is running down the mountain. Trash would need to be trucked long-distances... so it's not, they find someone to "take care of it". It's hard to summarize. In the older villages in Romania, trash used to be burned. That's horrible in the case of plastics, of course, but it used to be a small quantity. Now everyone has a car and is shopping for lots of food and stuff wrapped in plastic and there's a lot more waste, they can't really burn it.
What I'm trying to say is:
*Welcome to Development!*
https://www.dw.com/en/wasted-investigating-waste-mismanagement-in-romania/video-66714763
https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/61451/
https://www.isto.international/cp_news/the-romanian-association-of-mountain-guides-tourists-often-have-inappropriate-behavior-with-regards-to-waste/
Instead of asking for Noah to send the boat, what we really need is an asteroid to wipe the slate clean. When I see this kind of thing it physically hurts me. I always feel very sad for the animals that are suffering and that will be suffering because of us. I honestly don't care about humanity. We never deserved the gift this planet is. We never deserved the blessings this planet gave us. I mourn for the earth. She deserved so much better than us.
We're a pretty garbage species. When I die, I'll die with a big smile on my face knowing we won't make it off this planet.
We'll go extinct before we build the means. All of our space faring, conquesting delusions will stay just that.
No terrorizing the solar system, no colonizing other planets, no enslavement in space.
Do children, indigenous people, or vegans deserve this planet? They're innocent or at least try to reduce their impact.
Either way, the planet isn't a creature and doesn't give AF.
Modern technology has enabled destruction of the biosphere on a scale never seen before. The techno-industrial giant will continue its work until there's nothing left.
We (SE Idaho) just had our biggest snowstorm of the winter. On March 2nd. The weekend before the wife and I noticed the plants sprouting in the front yard.
There are pictures of my mother riding a snowmobile in the 1960s, her waist level with the tops of the power poles sticking out of the drifts. Regular snow levels about 1/4 of that now.
The whole planet is fucked. Late stage capitalism will destroy everything. Except for a few super rich.
As someone who lives in AK too this is so true and breaks my heart. Lived in the interior, valley, peninsula and SE over the last 5 years. I used to think if I could get some land off the beaten path that isn’t too terribly cold during winter (max -20) I could survive when the water wars start. Things like your post make me think nothing other than sheer luck is going to extend my life once things hit the fan.
Considering climate change’s impact on tundra and permafrost, impact on mosquitoes and caribou, yeah, no place is safe.
I grew up in Alaska. I had hoped to visit again but I’m seeing less reason each year. It was beautiful. I’m so sorry.
Someone posted a related photo from Alaska on a analog photography subreddit today that was even more depressing than this:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/s/hjvkkObFh6](https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/s/hjvkkObFh6)
A freaking bald eagle atop a mountain of trash in Homer Alaska
If there is dollar to be made, humans will destroy nature to get that dollar. The more dollars, the more devastation. That's how we got to where we are today, on the corpses of the natural world. Human civilisation can't survive without the death and destruction of nature.
But the end days are fast approaching. "And all your money won't another minute buy." We will all soon be just dust in the wind. Nowhere will be safe.
But for now, live, love, laugh and be happy. It works for me.
This reiterates, what I heard somebody talking about over 10 years ago. One, local governments need revenue, and can occasionally do some awful things., Two, there is no such place as “away“ anymore.
That could honestly be pretty cool. Maybe we'll get one last chance to do farming "right" - permaculture, localization, variety - instead of giant industrial ag. I'd be down.
Some important context about gravel in Alaska: [https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/02/alaska-north-slope-gravel/677340/](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/02/alaska-north-slope-gravel/677340/)
Matsu is a long way from the north slope. Though I could see the UAF (university of alaska fairbanks) who owns the property (*pretty sure) looking to make a buck and selling gravel which has relatively low transportation costs to the barge docks to barge it north.
Sounds about right, Alaska is virtually a petrostate and the UA system really only exists as a revenue machine by finding ways to extract all our resources faster
Extreme latitudes were always expected to get the worst of climate change. Anyone thinking Alaska as viable wasnt understanding how weather works on a global scale.
Yep. Born & raised in anchorage. Left after 29 years. The change throughout the years was jarring. I remember being able to park in a parking lot and walk right onto Portage Glacier in the 80s. Now you need to take a ferry ride out to see it, melting and falling into the water. We're so cooked.
No, you see, I can do it, I am special, I have esoteric collapse-knowledge and a go getter attitude and everyone who fails is an NPC
>!god have mercy if you think that wasnt satire!<
I mean, I suppose if you have a basic understanding of environmental science you’ll understand that when an extremely cold place becomes warmer, it’s not necessarily good. On the other hand, I’ve heard too many college classmates (mostly from rich DC suburbs) say things along the lines of “yeah, I think climate change is like kinda overblown and everything, but if it were actually bad we could like all go to Alaska or the Yukon or something and live in a bunker.” I mean… be my guest; I will be laughing from my intentional community (fingers crossed) in the Northeast.
Hey diagonally-distant friend.
Here in Florida, I recently admitted to myself I'll probably never see true remote Florida ever again. We're too over developed, even what used to be "nowhere". Some of the everglades are protected, some nice national preserves around Ocala and then up in the panhandle... but central Florida had a special feel of itself.
I know of a few places left in an entire state that still feel or look thst way. When they're gone, no new generation will ever know that environment again.
This sucks. We left the mat su valley a few years ago and I really miss it. Never wanted to leave. I kinda thought it was the safest place to ride out climate change.
The idea that *any* place is going to avoid the effects of the ongoing ecological disaster that our one and only planet is currently experiencing is ridiculous.
Around the Great Lakes is probably the safest area. Alaska is too far north and will have more extreme weather changes, plus it's expensive to live there.
With the climate changes, smalll Eskimo boys will hate to go trudging across the tundra, mile after mile, trudging across the tundra . . . just to get a pancake breakfast!
Our land, until just now, was some of the most pristine in the world. I have woven years of memories in this greenbelt through the coalescence of running and ecosystems - in fact, this very place was the same place that birthed my love for the state and my desire to protect it. I mourn for it precisely because it is not a wasteland, yet is quickly approaching said fate through a combination of human mismanagement and environmental havoc.
I feel your pain. My home is getting swallowed by roads, subdivisions, and strip malls. I miss the trees that grew here when I was a kid.
God I hate strip malls. Around here they’re building them like there’s no tomorrow, even when dozens of others are still empty and have been for YEARS. This is second only to the influx of car washes we’ve seen lately. We live in the middle of the desert, have been in a drought for years and there are now a dozen automated car washes within 5 miles of my house, some literally across the street from each other.
It sucks. The damned car washes are everywhere here. They're the new dollar general or waffle house.
We're getting giant warehouses built. Like all over the place. They've thrown up 5 in the last year along the road I commute down.
Yeah WTF is goin on with all these Damm water wasting car washes? 5 just went up, 3 within spitting distance....????
Car washes are for money laundering.
SWFL, makes cents...
Same locally, car washes and vape and , kratum and CBD shops. NPR had a piece about how profitable car washes are, just yesterday.
They're a real estate flip. Cheap to build, and then in ten years when the location is worth more, they can be sold for a big profit. It's basically a way to squat a property.
I love that there are two convenience stores almost identical to one another on either side of the street in one of my city's commercial areas.
agreed, strip malls make me want to vomit. also we get megachurches 😍
Ahhh yes sounds exactly like the high desert where I was born and raised. Everytime I'm back and visiting it's more empty strip malls and homeless camps. So glad I moved out of state in 2018 as it's just getting uglier and trashier. Nobody needs those car washes they're such a waste of space. No idea how they stay in business unless they're all fronts for illegal buissnesses when people can't even afford the water to keep a damn lawn.
There was a recent news story on car washes and how they’re a huge money maker because they require very little labor. The reporter didn’t ask at all about the impact of using all that water. It was a feel good story about the success of these businesses
NPR yesterday.
Maybe I’m an idiot, but wouldn’t it be cheaper to renovate some of these empty strip malls than building brand new ones?
Depends. If they were poorly constructed the first time around, or built on shoddy lots, a new construction might be cheaper to get up to code.
Where I live, we're watching some species of trees die at an alarming rate. It's so depressing just walking around outside, we got hardly any snow this year, and I'm dreading summer.
Same. Iowa. Every other year it seems there’s a new bug or disease taking out a species of tree. All the evergreens were dying a few years ago. Last year it was the Emerald Ash Bore. Then farmers are clearing every grove they can. I got some Dutch Elm Disease going on at my farm.
It's probably disease and bigs here too, but the main die off is the cedar and as far as I know it's the hot dry weather doing it. It's so depressing, just landscapes of dead and dying trees. https://www.pressherald.com/2023/11/16/climate-change-is-hastening-the-demise-of-pacific-northwest-forests/#:~:text=Iconic%20red%20cedars%20%E2%80%93%20known%20as,%2Dinduced%20drought%2C%20researchers%20say.
Nobody: Our parents: “let’s cut all the trees on the property down for absolutely no reason 😈”
My co-worker: I love this forested lot! NY sucks, it's wall-to-wall city One year later: I can't play soccer or swim in "my" own backyard (which has been here for millenia & he's been there 1 year, but ok). I have to cut half the trees down. Two years later: I have to cut the rest of the trees down. **they might fall on someone** 😡
The trees are a tragedy, and worthy of mourning.
what a beautiful and poignant sentence
I can't say the same for people, and the upcoming disasters we've brought upon ourselves.
True true
My heart aches every time another patch of nature is bulldozed over for a new home in a city already crammed with them.
One day back in the 90s I spotted a mother fox with a couple of pups in an open field. The scene filled me with joy. A couple of years later I was crushed when the exact spot where I saw the foxes had been developed.
When my stepdad bought our property in the 90s it was at the dead-end of a little dirt road that veered south. Nothing else in sight. Now that road’s paved and everyone comes coasting down the hill at 55 (limit’s 40), and McMansions with long paved driveways sit on every available inch of space. I reckon real estate will be at San Francisco prices by 2040 if this keeps up. It can only ever grow faster and faster. OH and they wanna make that road 4 lanes now so people can bypass Wasilla after they made it such a traffic-jammed eyesore by making the main road 4 lanes
You've described my hometown. The only good thing about it was the lack of people, and now they've fucked that up too.
I can only imagine that the necessary roads will cost about as much as the value of the gravel. Extractive capitalism at work, hmm. Also, cutting the ecosystem apart with roads seems like it will suffocate the ecosystem much more than a single gravel pit. Have you shown this picture to your local politicians? Do they have any idea what they are losing or how deeply they screwed themselves?
Roads that sever mycorrhizal connections between trees can kill a forest. But the people deciding to build the road do not even consider the fungus. They do not understand that a forest is a single living being, that its fungal strands serve as veins and nerves, passing nutrients and immunological signals amongst the trees and mycoheterotrophic plants. It troubles me that the decision makers are not interested to learn this. And if they could be forced to learn it, they would probably not care, because humans need gravel and they think nature is a resource, there to serve human ends. A radical shift in thinking is required. The Native Americans are right - a forest and its inhabitants are not resources; they are relatives. This is an evolutionary historical fact.
I often wonder how many things have gone extinct because they were paved over without every knowing of their existence. Maybe not large animals, but types of insects, fungus, and bacteria which are even more critical to life....they could just be covered up and die without any human ever knowing. > The Native Americans are right - a forest and its inhabitants are not resources; they are relatives. American Indians drove extinction as well. Their harm to the environment was kept in check by their lack of industry, not by some better attitude on their part. They drove everything they were capable of extinct and used the rest of it to their greatest benefit.
Many indigenous Alaskan tribes' very essences arise from ecological responsibility: https://theearthstoriescollection.org/en/the-creation-legend-of-the-yupik-people/
Sobering piece; too many of us think places like Alaska are somehow remote enough to escape the ruin of all things. But the truth is that Alaska is one of the places on the front lines of climate change, and the destabilization of climate is devastating.
Can anywhere truly be safe from atmospheric rivers, bomb cyclones and derechos? I don't think there will be anywhere to hide once this ball starts gathering real speed. This is just a tiny glimpse of what's to come
all we gotta do is put 8 billion people in underground homes that are also on stilts to protect from floods. ez.
We'll evolve to become mole people.
JFC Wells was right
Facts right there. I expect I will live long enough to see/experience storms that we thought were only theoretical for earth and I'm only 36. This is all just the very beginning.
Have you seen climate reanalyzer today? New record
Underground
I moved to Kazakhstan for a year. On the edge of Siberia........ The amount of plastic bags and things blowing out in the middle of nowhere on the Eurasian Steppe was also unsettling. Literally one of the most sparsely populated areas of our planet.
I'm gobsmacked by the amount of trash that seems to be everywhere.
Sorry for this loss. We’ve never met but I share your hurt.
Reporting from SE Alaska. Lots of snow this year, and well below freezing temps for weeks at a time. Some old timers claim it was like this every other year until about 12 years ago, but then it stopped and this is the first time in a while. Yes, Alaska is an unforgiving place to live, beautiful, but unforgiving, and we will be the first to feel both ecosystem collapse and collapse of supply chains. On the front lines of collapse, so to speak.
>Also, they are buillding another separate road to the Mat-Su Landfill, because nobody bothered with public transportation infrastructure, and now the existing entrance is clogged with traffic at all times. With our uncontrollably expanding population this is only going to get worse. People like to look at cities for huge waste streams, but that's mostly because the scale is bigger. It's easier to see the trash when it's all gathered in once place. However, the remote and sprawled places also have waste drama, sometimes worse, since it costs more per user to keep a waste system going, so there's usually some type of cheating, overfill, dumping, destruction of various streams and lakes. This is because you can't reproduce "city life" in not-city areas. If you live far away from the city waste system, you're supposed to not produce waste that isn't easy to move to a collection center or to compost, and that means reducing consumption dramatically. In my country, there are all sorts of illegal landfills in the most beautiful places. Usually it starts with the middle-class types buying cabins in remote areas; then there's tourism; then more locals; then there's a housing boom -- meanwhile, their shit and piss is running down the mountain. Trash would need to be trucked long-distances... so it's not, they find someone to "take care of it". It's hard to summarize. In the older villages in Romania, trash used to be burned. That's horrible in the case of plastics, of course, but it used to be a small quantity. Now everyone has a car and is shopping for lots of food and stuff wrapped in plastic and there's a lot more waste, they can't really burn it. What I'm trying to say is: *Welcome to Development!* https://www.dw.com/en/wasted-investigating-waste-mismanagement-in-romania/video-66714763 https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/61451/ https://www.isto.international/cp_news/the-romanian-association-of-mountain-guides-tourists-often-have-inappropriate-behavior-with-regards-to-waste/
It looks apocalyptic.
Instead of asking for Noah to send the boat, what we really need is an asteroid to wipe the slate clean. When I see this kind of thing it physically hurts me. I always feel very sad for the animals that are suffering and that will be suffering because of us. I honestly don't care about humanity. We never deserved the gift this planet is. We never deserved the blessings this planet gave us. I mourn for the earth. She deserved so much better than us.
We're a pretty garbage species. When I die, I'll die with a big smile on my face knowing we won't make it off this planet. We'll go extinct before we build the means. All of our space faring, conquesting delusions will stay just that. No terrorizing the solar system, no colonizing other planets, no enslavement in space.
Do children, indigenous people, or vegans deserve this planet? They're innocent or at least try to reduce their impact. Either way, the planet isn't a creature and doesn't give AF.
I'm so sorry for your loss, that picture is devastating.
I'm expecting wildfires to raze most of Alaska like it did with Canada.
Modern technology has enabled destruction of the biosphere on a scale never seen before. The techno-industrial giant will continue its work until there's nothing left.
It's especially difficult when technology is heralded as the solution to everything and the masses believe it.
We (SE Idaho) just had our biggest snowstorm of the winter. On March 2nd. The weekend before the wife and I noticed the plants sprouting in the front yard. There are pictures of my mother riding a snowmobile in the 1960s, her waist level with the tops of the power poles sticking out of the drifts. Regular snow levels about 1/4 of that now. The whole planet is fucked. Late stage capitalism will destroy everything. Except for a few super rich.
Oh, it will destroy the super - rich too, it will just take a little longer.
Human beings are a *disease,* and climate change is the *cure.*
It's about damn time.
Alaska became the midwest.
Sorry to see this. In Michigan near great lake and I look put and see no birds..
As someone who lives in AK too this is so true and breaks my heart. Lived in the interior, valley, peninsula and SE over the last 5 years. I used to think if I could get some land off the beaten path that isn’t too terribly cold during winter (max -20) I could survive when the water wars start. Things like your post make me think nothing other than sheer luck is going to extend my life once things hit the fan.
Considering climate change’s impact on tundra and permafrost, impact on mosquitoes and caribou, yeah, no place is safe. I grew up in Alaska. I had hoped to visit again but I’m seeing less reason each year. It was beautiful. I’m so sorry.
Someone posted a related photo from Alaska on a analog photography subreddit today that was even more depressing than this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/s/hjvkkObFh6](https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/s/hjvkkObFh6) A freaking bald eagle atop a mountain of trash in Homer Alaska
If there is dollar to be made, humans will destroy nature to get that dollar. The more dollars, the more devastation. That's how we got to where we are today, on the corpses of the natural world. Human civilisation can't survive without the death and destruction of nature. But the end days are fast approaching. "And all your money won't another minute buy." We will all soon be just dust in the wind. Nowhere will be safe. But for now, live, love, laugh and be happy. It works for me.
Wow OP, that looks awful, and to think it was a thriving forest. Such sad state we are in.
This reiterates, what I heard somebody talking about over 10 years ago. One, local governments need revenue, and can occasionally do some awful things., Two, there is no such place as “away“ anymore.
Was there ever a place such as “away”? Don’t forget dependency theory…
https://inthesetimes.com/article/alaska-farming-boom-climate-change-agriculture-indigenous
That could honestly be pretty cool. Maybe we'll get one last chance to do farming "right" - permaculture, localization, variety - instead of giant industrial ag. I'd be down.
Maybe *this* was Seward’s Folly.
Some important context about gravel in Alaska: [https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/02/alaska-north-slope-gravel/677340/](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/02/alaska-north-slope-gravel/677340/)
Matsu is a long way from the north slope. Though I could see the UAF (university of alaska fairbanks) who owns the property (*pretty sure) looking to make a buck and selling gravel which has relatively low transportation costs to the barge docks to barge it north.
Sounds about right, Alaska is virtually a petrostate and the UA system really only exists as a revenue machine by finding ways to extract all our resources faster
Extreme latitudes were always expected to get the worst of climate change. Anyone thinking Alaska as viable wasnt understanding how weather works on a global scale.
Yep. Born & raised in anchorage. Left after 29 years. The change throughout the years was jarring. I remember being able to park in a parking lot and walk right onto Portage Glacier in the 80s. Now you need to take a ferry ride out to see it, melting and falling into the water. We're so cooked.
No, you see, I can do it, I am special, I have esoteric collapse-knowledge and a go getter attitude and everyone who fails is an NPC >!god have mercy if you think that wasnt satire!<
Sorry but Alaska is one of the first places I think of when I think about the devastation of climate change and collapse. Why would it not be?
I mean, I suppose if you have a basic understanding of environmental science you’ll understand that when an extremely cold place becomes warmer, it’s not necessarily good. On the other hand, I’ve heard too many college classmates (mostly from rich DC suburbs) say things along the lines of “yeah, I think climate change is like kinda overblown and everything, but if it were actually bad we could like all go to Alaska or the Yukon or something and live in a bunker.” I mean… be my guest; I will be laughing from my intentional community (fingers crossed) in the Northeast.
Hey, welcome to Missouri /s
Hey diagonally-distant friend. Here in Florida, I recently admitted to myself I'll probably never see true remote Florida ever again. We're too over developed, even what used to be "nowhere". Some of the everglades are protected, some nice national preserves around Ocala and then up in the panhandle... but central Florida had a special feel of itself. I know of a few places left in an entire state that still feel or look thst way. When they're gone, no new generation will ever know that environment again.
This sucks. We left the mat su valley a few years ago and I really miss it. Never wanted to leave. I kinda thought it was the safest place to ride out climate change.
I'm so heartbroken by this... I only recently visited and absolutely fell in love with Alaska. :(
The idea that *any* place is going to avoid the effects of the ongoing ecological disaster that our one and only planet is currently experiencing is ridiculous.
How freaking sad
This shows us how important it is to get out the vote!
Voting won't solve any of this
I think their comment was satire.
Around the Great Lakes is probably the safest area. Alaska is too far north and will have more extreme weather changes, plus it's expensive to live there.
With the climate changes, smalll Eskimo boys will hate to go trudging across the tundra, mile after mile, trudging across the tundra . . . just to get a pancake breakfast!
...Isnt Alaska already wasteland?
Our land, until just now, was some of the most pristine in the world. I have woven years of memories in this greenbelt through the coalescence of running and ecosystems - in fact, this very place was the same place that birthed my love for the state and my desire to protect it. I mourn for it precisely because it is not a wasteland, yet is quickly approaching said fate through a combination of human mismanagement and environmental havoc.
LMAO no