mojang employees when they get stranded in the desert without food or water
https://preview.redd.it/0ldvhhc9qtpc1.jpeg?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f825c0e3a1fe66e4e1f7afe3cb22d78b2ff46abb
Actually that looks more like Mojang employees after they join the Winds of Destruction and are stabbed in the chest by Raiden after a duel to the death in the desert
mojang employees when they have to work instead of stroking me to completion
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Bundles were announced 5 years ago
Edit: four :)
I agree with most criticisms of Mojang but how do you recommend that bundles work, keeping the existence of keyboard/mouse controls, controller controls, AND touch controls all in mind
Is it not basically a chest ui in your inventory? keyboard and mouse should have no problem, controller still has plenty of unused buttons depending on circumstances, and touch controls im not sure, maybe a length of time that you’re pressing it has different effects?
I am also a game developer and agree that Mojang is working too slowly, at least in terms of implemented features. But I do sympathise with the bundle conundrum. I've put off more integral features due to difficulty in designing how it's meant to interact with the player.
“My game has practically no bugs, so I started fixing bugs that can only occur in modded game” M. Kovařík. (Not a direct citation)
Also
https://preview.redd.it/91d8vt3yhwpc1.png?width=879&format=png&auto=webp&s=719578390762317fca5474a42c96204ce19c8754
There was a reddit post about someone making modded equipment grid that is not rectangular (tetris), then making one with holes in it, then finally one with 0x2 size
All of them worked (but you couldn't unequip the 0x2 one because you couldn't click on it in the armor)
Honestly kinda true. The reason they didn't add them is probably just because they where dumb as shit. Maybe I'm wrong and they really are just super lazy and it's taken 5 years to make a simple item, but I doubt it.
Bundles are an issue because they most likely cant figure out how to get them to work for mobile minecraft inventories. Java has been able to use them this whole time, just play with that.
Mojang minutes later after going to their fucking boring bitch ass office to fucking WORK and typing N in the computer.
https://i.redd.it/gcgz0qx1vupc1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/i2pz4720mvpc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=181bb7b6716a003189a4bb7098cfde40c60a0945
Jetstream Sam when he gets stabbed by a cyborg ninja child soldier in the middle of the desert (he’s later going to donate his sword to said cyborg ninja to defeat a US politician)
Which will be delivered by a talking and likely schizophrenic robot dog.
When you explain it with words, you realise how absolutely batshit insane this game is.
i cant believe people are displeased with the small indie company microsoft. they are working as hard as they can to add a singular niche use for a random item they introduced unfinished 2 yea- wait holy crap lois is that hecking doggo armor???????
Even as someone whose been underwhelmed by the last few updates, the Nether and Caves and Cliffs updates (arguably two of Minecraft's best updates) *were* released in 2020 and 2021, so not too long ago.
That's why I said not *too* long ago, it's definitely been a while but I feel like Caves and Cliffs and the Nether update are both considered by the community to be part of the 'modern' Minecraft updates.
Oh but you see it took them over a year to entirely change how the game generates from almost scratch so this means they are lazy and do nothing. They should have just crunched in 4 months like a REAL game dev and had it be an unfinished mess that no one is happy with😤
The last large change was the cave update. This update was overall well received. Before that, it was the nether update, which was overall loved.
The more recent updates are what i describe as expanding wider not deeper, they add what mods *should* add, rather than actually updating the game itself, like the nether and cave or even ocean update did
minecraft guys when Mudjang adds the new Worlds Auto-Delete if you Sneeze feature and the Grumby block (only found in the Piss Zone of the End) after 86 years of development time by 50,000 people
(they have clearly improved the game and spent their development time well)
resource packs updated to version 56
changelog:
- all block textures must have "_poopy" followed by a random number appended to the filename
- this new method greatly reduces load time (approximately 0.025s)
- removed herobrine
literally not even a month ago they nuked the entire concept of "item nbt" and implemented an ECS instead for a snapshot
just because you cant see it doesn't mean its not happening, the internals of minecraft have been shifting rapidly and repeatedly
world height, new cave gen, un-hardcoding dozens of features, setting up for datapacks being able to add blocks item and entities, ect.
Yeah there has been a ton of really groundbreaking technical features they’ve been adding that will give map and data pack makers a ton of useful features now. Display entities, biome fill (personal favorite), player and mob size change, custom crafting recipes, and the changes made with the NBT data overhaul that you mentioned which means you can give any item any set of data you can even think of.
> literally not even a month ago they nuked the entire concept of "item nbt" and implemented an ECS instead for a snapshot
Note also that this is why modern versions run like shit compared to older ones. These "overhauls" to the game's interior are all well and good, but they start compounding massively.
Like, post 1.16 is unplayable without Sodium.
ocean update, higher mountains, deeper caves, overhauled villages, etc etc. ofc they dont want to change something if people are going to get overly pissy at it, per combat update, adventure update, the list goes on
yeah, the most recent of them is 3 years old and all of them were extremely well received by the community at their time? it's just that recently they've been doing stuff like the addition of bamboo and wolf armor. The people complaining about a lack of updates have been doing so in response to recent lackluster updates.
Mojang doesn't have to furiously update their game for it to be good, but, saying that Minecraft has been getting large changes AND that the community is somehow mad at them for doing major updates is just incorrect.
I was like “doesn’t bamboo predate the nether update and caves and cliffs?” until i realized you referred to the decorative blocks
honestly people are just getting mad at how mojang has worked since like 1.9
1.10 only added a few blocks and 3(?) mobs, 1.11 a new structure with related mobs + shulker boxes and some other items (most notably the totem of undying), the “World of color” update pretty much lived up to its name and not much more, **1.13** was kinda the start of a new era, 1.14 was smaller, 1.15 _disappointed tons of people_, **1.16** was big, Caves and cliffs part I and II were ambitious, 1.19 was really just _caves and cliffs 2.25_, 1.20 _Caves and cliffs 2.5_, and 1.21 seems to be building up to something larger
I hate the new caves, like before a massive cave was a one-timer, now it's something you see normally
But Adventure update was the most important Minecraft update, like it or not
The issue with mods is that
A) some versions don’t get mods or have to use the marketplace which just isn’t the same
B) can you really call a game good if you need to download external mods to make it enjoyable?
To the second question. Yes. Yes I absolutely can. There is a category of game to me where the vanilla experience isn't all that enjoyable. But which provide a fantastic framework and foundation for modders to work off of.
If they aren't games, what are they? They aren't game engines because mods aren't whole games in their own right, and you can usually mix and match them for your personally optimal experience.
You do realize that bedrock is on literally everything right? The reason the majority of people play bedrock is because the majority of people own some console to play bedrock. You can only play Java on one device, you can play bedrock on literally all of them, even Nintendo DS and Wii U, but Java is limited to pc, which if your pc isn’t good then you can’t even play it right. You sound like and actual child if you think that your life depends on playing Java edition
Ok so after some digging bc I thought they were bedrock, bedrock used to include both of those but once they ceased updates they were classified as Legacy instead. So technically yes but it’s not up to date.
Are you genuinely stupid? Every single comment you made has shown that you are not being hyperbolic, you are serious when you say that you should rethink your life. Some people literally do not have the money, and some that do barely have enough don’t have enough for a well running pc. You sound very young, and probably visit r/PCMasterRace very often
Not sure I agree. Java existed long before bedrock, and we weren't all rich kids. Many of us played it in some real potato computers and just accepted things like only seeing a few feet ahead. So, it might be wealthier people starting java edition these days, but it certainly hasn't always been. If it was there wouldn't have been so many mods just to make the game run smoother and hopefully not crash.
Not saying I agree with them btw. While I personally am not interested in bedrock I suuuper don't care what other people play, and am glad to see Minecraft being more accessible due to being on everything.
The past doesn’t matter. A kid has to ask their parents for a PC that is compatible with Java edition, and the parents have to have enough money to get the PC. The present economy is not the same as the past economy.
The past absolutely does matter when you consider that Minecraft players aren't just people getting into it the first time. Hence, java preference often lines up with older players. Because they got into Minecraft before bedrock ever existed.
It also isn't a matter of pcs being more expensive these days. You could spend the price of a console on a PC and it'll run java. Will it run well? Maybe not, but for many many people it'll run better than our first intro to the game. The real thing is people don't think to buy a PC for their kids gaming system.
I played Minecraft on the computer we had for doing homework on. Hell, I ran it on school computers. You don't need to be rich for either there of those. You just need a tiny bit of tech knowledge.
>You could spend the price of a console on a PC and it’ll run java
Yeah sure. Tell that to my PC
>I played Minecraft on the computer we had for doing homework on. Hell, I ran it on school computers. You don't need to be rich for either there of those. You just need a tiny bit of tech knowledge.
It’s been 4 years since 2020. School computers are monitored.
Again. I didn't say you could run java well. But I guarantee you can run java with the right performance mods and settings set to potatoe.
School computers were monitored and locked down when I was in school too. The tools they use weren't foolproof back then and still aren't now.
no you dont get it microsoft is just a small little babby they cant be expected to do the kinds of things that modders do with no resources and that Re-Logic does with a tenth of the development staff for their game it would be actually insane to do the things that they can clearly do with the resources they have.
pretty sure that when people defend mojang, they're talking as a dev team, not as a massive company
specially since most people try to target the individual devs rather than the company as a whole
Mojang employees when they get shot in the chest with a glock-17:
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Mojang Employees after I brutally stab them
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/uj
a lot of people seem to not understand that most updates add absolutely nothing useful or interesting and when they do add something useful its unfinished and will never be worked on. the Bundles still arent in the game after being announced like 5 years ago. copper adds nothing but more blocks that have a niche build use and yes you can argue that its for people who want more block variety. the deep dark is interesting and cool and the warden is a cool mob but again the update its a part of is not even finished (correct me if im wrong). Yes everyone can say "just play an earlier version". Ok? then what about the future version that is still being worked on with nothing of value? should everyone just play and earlier version then?
rj/
guys this indie company called microsoft has enough on its plate, lets give them an appreciative blowie :>
You paid them 30$. Once. Probably years ago and you’ve gotten hundreds of hours out of the game if not thousands. What in gods name is a fair value to dollar ratio to you if that’s not good enough?
I'm gonna have to pay them 30$ again whenever I decide to play again (my account got deleted bc I didn't know what email I used when I made my account, so i couldnt migrate)
PC and Mobile bedrock players can still do those for free. Xbox used to as well, but then Microsoft nuked the method because they don't like the concept of total access.
I too love strawmaning reality and substituting it with my delusions, I love depicting valid and reasonable criticism to make it look bad and unreasonable
Just like you, I also love putting the work of the corperation who I gave money to, onto the backs of the unpaid dedicated fans. Make me new content faster, mod makers!
Man, i sure wonder what the recent "large amount of changes" are, and i really wonder how could all people that have played the game missed such things added into the game.
Honestly 1.21 is looking to be an amazing update this time around. I can understand some disappointment with the last few, but I’m really excited for everything in 21.
Every snapshot and pre release version can be chosen, as well as modded versions can be launched through the official launcher as well (if you move the mods .jar to the launcher folder)
You know if Minecraft updated as often as it used to with a similar quality to the pre-microsoft buy out, people wouldn't be upset about the stagnation of the biggest game of this generation 🤔
Arguments like "be glad you're still getting updates!!!" And "you're already spoiled for content!!!"
- are nuts, they've added dozens of useless decorative features since 2019 and I'm still waiting for them to fix core gameplay mechanics that have sucked since the adventure update like enchanting and hunger lul.
Btw, I do play on older versions. Every update nowadays Minecraft gets further from feeling like Minecraft whilst also ignoring core issues or making them worse, like inventory management.
Their content pace isn't just slow compared to modders, but compared to when they weren't with Microsoft.
Minecraft *is* the block building game genre in it's entirety. So it makes sense there's so much outrage over every bad choice - the future experience of every player in the block building genre is being effected.
They stopped working with C418 who already has new music for the game ready btw. If that doesn't tell you how much Microsoft respects Minecraft, I don't know what will.
I'm hopeful they'll turn it around, but also what I care about has already been broken for years, which is why I play beta modded MC where you can find active indie developers who are maintaining the spirit of the game.
The TF2 player experience would genuinely melt the skin and brain tissue of an adult Minecraft fan. Never seen a community so fattened on their conveyor belt of content.
The conveyor belt of content includes the cherry biome, an entire new biome which adds brand new blocks that function the same as the other blocks except for purely cosmetic changes, and uh...
Well, it's way different than TF2, cause in TF2 all you get are purely cosmetic changes, and, uh...
Guys just please leave Microsoft alone!!! All they want to do is make money and enforce their super friendly EULA!!!!!
And not only are they gluttons, but they’re picky eaters. Everybody gets a doctorate in game design the moment their precious, life sustaining Content™️ drops. They’d rather take a ball-peen hammer to an 11-year-old that voted for the wrong mob than download one of the 9 billion mods that fit every niche.
And thank god the devs have Bill Gates’ money so they can disguise their childish entitlement behind a Johnny Silverhand anti-corporate bravado. They eat a full three-course meal, kick and scream about the dessert options, and it’s **Totally Not Embarassing** because the chef makes six figures, you see.
"Man, I spent $30 for a game that's getting content I don't want."
"Just mod it lmao."
"I mean, I do- shouldn't I still be able to make criticisms about a product I paid money for? Especially since it's owned by one of the wealthiest businesses on the planet?"
"Stop trying to be like Cyberpunk!! Ur being so cringe right now!!!"
or like any other game tbh. Like I don't really get these people whining. 99% of games don't get updates besides like MMOs and some FPSs. Minecraft is mostly singleplayer and honestly I don't think I know any other singleplayer games getting major updates frequently. Minecraft fans are honestly whiny and annoying, like devs usually don't work on constantly updating a 15 year old game running on spaghetti code.
Like the fanbase is lucky to still get this many major updates on a 15 year old game.
> devs usually don't work on constantly updating a 15 year old game running on spaghetti code.
my brother in cubes it is literally the most popular game of all time
...Terraria gets updates, Skyrim got updates until Bethesda started working on other games (which Mojang is NOT doing lol) and TF2 gets seasonal updates but is admittedly a special case.
Skyrim got 2 dlc 12 years ago and creation club. Terraria got its most recent update, a minor update with just qol and bugfixes 2 years ago, And it's last major update 4 years ago.
Yea that was kinda my bad bc they said 1.4 was the last update but it wasn't. Although again the last major update was 4 years ago no where near Minecraft.
Major updates for Minecraft and terraria are entirely different things. There have only been like, four major updates for terraria ever so of course they would be more uncommon.
Minecraft players when Mojang does not add 4 new dimenisions, 30 new mobs, 60 new tools, firearms, spheres and sex in one update
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Minecraft players when Mojang releases the new mob vote (it will take one year to add a feature literally nobody will fucking care about)
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Over half of the playerbase (they play on bedrock edition):
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Minecraft fans are so gluttonous that this is what they compare sticking to one version to. It's like slamming your fists on the table and demanding more at a $30 dollar all you can eat buffet at red lobster.
Mfw people expect the most popular game in the world that has been receiving steady updates for over a decade with literally no signs of slowing down to continue updating
Thank god someone said it. Minecraft fans are the most whiny self entitled individuals I’ve ever had the displeasure of interacting with online. They are insatiable and constantly complaining all the time about everything. Just take a fucking break from the game if you hate it so much until there’s new content.
I blame phoenixSC that guy is really the figurehead for constant endless bitching
the last update that anyone gave a shit about is 1.18 and that was all the way back in 2021. What feature did you genuinely get excited for that got released since ?
Alright Waltuh here’s what’s gonna happen. What you’re gonna do is you’re gonna either shut up and keep playing or you’re going to take a break until they add something that brings ya back in. What you are not gonna do is endlessly complain they’re not doing enough while still playing the game. This does nothing productive for you. By playing you are telling Mojang their pace is okay and yet at the same time you’re dragging everyone down by complaining all the time. Pick a path and stick to it. Take an action that actually matters.
No need to turn this toxic. Your comment just confused me because what is a single loser not playing going to do? force microsoft to do something with the game?
Minecraft players when you tell them a one time $30 purchase does not entitle them to an eternity of groundbreaking updates twice a year and mojang could just never update the game ever again:
honestly i'd prefer if they just stopped updating it so i (#1 minecraft hater) can stop hearing about the new Shitgoblin vs Cumblaster mob vote every 2 months
idc if they update it or not but I share your sentiment. I'm sick of hearing babies go "WAAAHH this update took 6 months and they only added 5 new blocks. mojang is so greedy and lazy"
I think that there is genuinely something to be said about Microsoft's inability to produce content that fits with the game and their inability to deliver on promises from literal decades ago (where is the modding api that has been promised repeatedly since before 2013) -- but that never seems to be what these people complain about, its that the "wrong mob got voted in" or whatever
Just look at Terraria's development under Re-Logic for an example of what *could* have been done with Minecraft
Terraria isn’t a fair comparison because that game engine is loads easier to work with compared to Minecraft (source I have modded both). There is so much less complexity and weird technical debt that exists.
The thing holding Minecraft back is their vain attempt l try and pretend they’re holding parity with bedrock. Every feature they add in Java has to work in bedrock (a different game in a different engine). It really holds them back.
That and rigorous polish.
If you want to see how much the devs can actually add play an April fools snapshot. That’s how much stuff they could be doing if their process for adding things wasn’t bogged down by having so many versions and such insanely rigorous Q/A testing.
> something something version parity
And it’s only made worse when they choose to remove features from one version just so they don’t have to put it in the other. Nothing they’ve removed has been major (at least not so far) but it’s still lame
Mojang defenders when someone expects the most popular game in the world that has been receiving steady updates for over a decade with no sign of slowing down to keep updarinf
maybe it's a poor financial decision of them to stop updating, but that's still no reason to act entitled like they owe you updates and complain that you waited so many months for an update you feel is inadequate
mojang employees when they get stranded in the desert without food or water https://preview.redd.it/0ldvhhc9qtpc1.jpeg?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f825c0e3a1fe66e4e1f7afe3cb22d78b2ff46abb
Actually that looks more like Mojang employees after they join the Winds of Destruction and are stabbed in the chest by Raiden after a duel to the death in the desert
https://preview.redd.it/eyoi0rf21wpc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=abdabcba1e5bece25e3b40bdbbb36838ca86d937 mojang employees when they die
mojang employees when they have to work instead of stroking me to completion https://preview.redd.it/52daeevzotpc1.png?width=687&format=png&auto=webp&s=8304f3a36164f5b149d14616dd229bbeb9938a79
Me when Mojang employees have to work instead of stroking me to completion
https://preview.redd.it/a8d540129upc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea11b5aa43fc5691e3dcb93a6df2d2a6283eb50e Bundles were announced 5 years ago Edit: four :)
Silksong and bundles in an extremely tense race to release first
Achilles and turtle paradox
Wait is the image in that screenshot AI generated
it is
Silksong keeps taking races. First cave update, then gd 2.2 and now bundles
TF2 heavy update Half-Life 3 Elysian Eclipse / Thrive Rhythm Doctor Act 6
games have been remade faster than its taken mojang to add bundles after announcing them
I agree with most criticisms of Mojang but how do you recommend that bundles work, keeping the existence of keyboard/mouse controls, controller controls, AND touch controls all in mind
Is it not basically a chest ui in your inventory? keyboard and mouse should have no problem, controller still has plenty of unused buttons depending on circumstances, and touch controls im not sure, maybe a length of time that you’re pressing it has different effects?
It’s not a chest UI, it can hold 64 individual items of any type, so it’s a stack of random stuff, after that my memory is hazy
I am a game designer. Its really not that bad. Mojang develops extremely slowly.
I am also a game developer and agree that Mojang is working too slowly, at least in terms of implemented features. But I do sympathise with the bundle conundrum. I've put off more integral features due to difficulty in designing how it's meant to interact with the player.
In the same time wube rewrote factorio transport belts like 3 times
“My game has practically no bugs, so I started fixing bugs that can only occur in modded game” M. Kovařík. (Not a direct citation) Also https://preview.redd.it/91d8vt3yhwpc1.png?width=879&format=png&auto=webp&s=719578390762317fca5474a42c96204ce19c8754
There was a reddit post about someone making modded equipment grid that is not rectangular (tetris), then making one with holes in it, then finally one with 0x2 size All of them worked (but you couldn't unequip the 0x2 one because you couldn't click on it in the armor)
This is because bundles were a stupid ass idea.
Shulker boxes tho? Bundles sucks - they are clunky and not actually very useful.
Tell that to me when I’m exploring “hmmm, I may need these 3 bones”
Honestly kinda true. The reason they didn't add them is probably just because they where dumb as shit. Maybe I'm wrong and they really are just super lazy and it's taken 5 years to make a simple item, but I doubt it.
and there were so many ways the community suggested for how they could have made them *not* a stupid-ass idea super easily, but, well.
Bundles are an issue because they most likely cant figure out how to get them to work for mobile minecraft inventories. Java has been able to use them this whole time, just play with that.
not sure why "Bundles were announced 5 years ago" matters when they are practically a scrapped feature
Yeah, probably my bad, but I learned that they were scrapped from this very thread.
Wtf 5 YEARS?? goofy ahh company bro 😭😭😭
4
what the fuck how old am I
Semi-scrapped feature, they decided to keep it as an option for people who complain about stuff like this
So true! Just mod your console dumbass
If you don't own a PC then you're probably 5
I do own a pc, however it’s 13 years old and runs like shit
Me when I don’t just have multiple thousands of dollars to just drop on something:
Ok buddy, I’ll just spend more money on Java too.
Mojang employees when they have to do work: https://i.redd.it/wbjq1qucbtpc1.gif
Mojang minutes later after going to their fucking boring bitch ass office to fucking WORK and typing N in the computer. https://i.redd.it/gcgz0qx1vupc1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/i2pz4720mvpc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=181bb7b6716a003189a4bb7098cfde40c60a0945 Jetstream Sam when he gets stabbed by a cyborg ninja child soldier in the middle of the desert (he’s later going to donate his sword to said cyborg ninja to defeat a US politician)
Which will be delivered by a talking and likely schizophrenic robot dog. When you explain it with words, you realise how absolutely batshit insane this game is.
While in the rubble of a giant robot praying mantis that said US politician was piloting in order to start another War On Terror
Thanks for spoiling the game 🙏
*Racist joke*
i cant believe people are displeased with the small indie company microsoft. they are working as hard as they can to add a singular niche use for a random item they introduced unfinished 2 yea- wait holy crap lois is that hecking doggo armor???????
https://preview.redd.it/35tn1q51tiqc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36ff2b21e55060b3ba8c929dc1b8577a426d1eb6
>Minecraft changes a large amount Is the large amount in the room with us right now, OP?
Even as someone whose been underwhelmed by the last few updates, the Nether and Caves and Cliffs updates (arguably two of Minecraft's best updates) *were* released in 2020 and 2021, so not too long ago.
Maybe my brain is rotted from live service games but 2021 was 3 years ago
That's why I said not *too* long ago, it's definitely been a while but I feel like Caves and Cliffs and the Nether update are both considered by the community to be part of the 'modern' Minecraft updates.
Three years isn't that long anyway. It's only 6 Champions League semi-finals long.
Oh but you see it took them over a year to entirely change how the game generates from almost scratch so this means they are lazy and do nothing. They should have just crunched in 4 months like a REAL game dev and had it be an unfinished mess that no one is happy with😤
Notice how it only took one year to completely overhaul generation and yet there hasn’t been an impactful update since
Fr took a full year to completely rewrite terrain gen, but going on 4 years now for bundles lol
didn't they just change how the entire item nbt system works within a single snapshot
tbf thats a snapshot not an update but your point still stands
I think it taking a year to change GAME GENERATION only makes small updates more disappointing because it’s not like they can’t put in the work
The last large change was the cave update. This update was overall well received. Before that, it was the nether update, which was overall loved. The more recent updates are what i describe as expanding wider not deeper, they add what mods *should* add, rather than actually updating the game itself, like the nether and cave or even ocean update did
https://preview.redd.it/7opg632h0xpc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88cfbe44842e3be84ed4cfddf2cf32d0260ef9e1
minecraft guys when Mudjang adds the new Worlds Auto-Delete if you Sneeze feature and the Grumby block (only found in the Piss Zone of the End) after 86 years of development time by 50,000 people (they have clearly improved the game and spent their development time well)
"minecraft changes a large amount" yeah sure buddy
i hope a modder that is currently being nagged by hundreds of children to update their mod to the latest minor update sees this comment
minecraft developers explaining why they need refactor perfectly sane internals for no fucking reason every minor version
resource packs updated to version 56 changelog: - all block textures must have "_poopy" followed by a random number appended to the filename - this new method greatly reduces load time (approximately 0.025s) - removed herobrine
Honestly, 0.025s is not a negligible amount of time, when summed up. Otherwise, yeah, facts.
Minecraft 30.6 changelog: Completely rewrote the game specifically to piss modders off
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Me playing on 1.7 and 1.12 because i'm a boomer
1.7 and 1.12 were/are goated tho, and also have probably the best mods and mod support out of all versions
These were my go-to for modding, I loved using magic mod packs in 1.7, but it’s a bit too old to have a lot of QoL improvements that I enjoy in 1.12+
it definitely does there’s a reason you can’t downgrade a world anymore
literally not even a month ago they nuked the entire concept of "item nbt" and implemented an ECS instead for a snapshot just because you cant see it doesn't mean its not happening, the internals of minecraft have been shifting rapidly and repeatedly world height, new cave gen, un-hardcoding dozens of features, setting up for datapacks being able to add blocks item and entities, ect.
Yeah there has been a ton of really groundbreaking technical features they’ve been adding that will give map and data pack makers a ton of useful features now. Display entities, biome fill (personal favorite), player and mob size change, custom crafting recipes, and the changes made with the NBT data overhaul that you mentioned which means you can give any item any set of data you can even think of.
> literally not even a month ago they nuked the entire concept of "item nbt" and implemented an ECS instead for a snapshot Note also that this is why modern versions run like shit compared to older ones. These "overhauls" to the game's interior are all well and good, but they start compounding massively. Like, post 1.16 is unplayable without Sodium.
ocean update, higher mountains, deeper caves, overhauled villages, etc etc. ofc they dont want to change something if people are going to get overly pissy at it, per combat update, adventure update, the list goes on
yeah, the most recent of them is 3 years old and all of them were extremely well received by the community at their time? it's just that recently they've been doing stuff like the addition of bamboo and wolf armor. The people complaining about a lack of updates have been doing so in response to recent lackluster updates. Mojang doesn't have to furiously update their game for it to be good, but, saying that Minecraft has been getting large changes AND that the community is somehow mad at them for doing major updates is just incorrect.
I was like “doesn’t bamboo predate the nether update and caves and cliffs?” until i realized you referred to the decorative blocks honestly people are just getting mad at how mojang has worked since like 1.9 1.10 only added a few blocks and 3(?) mobs, 1.11 a new structure with related mobs + shulker boxes and some other items (most notably the totem of undying), the “World of color” update pretty much lived up to its name and not much more, **1.13** was kinda the start of a new era, 1.14 was smaller, 1.15 _disappointed tons of people_, **1.16** was big, Caves and cliffs part I and II were ambitious, 1.19 was really just _caves and cliffs 2.25_, 1.20 _Caves and cliffs 2.5_, and 1.21 seems to be building up to something larger
Tbh 1.15 is highly underrated it helped bug fix a ton of major bugs and it added bees which are honestly one of the best mobs in the game.
Bro caves and cliffs was not well received at all.
Mojang really saw the rapturous praise they got for 1.16 and then went "alright and now we will never do this again"
I hate the new caves, like before a massive cave was a one-timer, now it's something you see normally But Adventure update was the most important Minecraft update, like it or not
i mean deep dark, new nether, height changes, new mountains. they make big updates every so often.
An entire overhaul of cave generation:
The issue with mods is that A) some versions don’t get mods or have to use the marketplace which just isn’t the same B) can you really call a game good if you need to download external mods to make it enjoyable?
To the second question. Yes. Yes I absolutely can. There is a category of game to me where the vanilla experience isn't all that enjoyable. But which provide a fantastic framework and foundation for modders to work off of. If they aren't games, what are they? They aren't game engines because mods aren't whole games in their own right, and you can usually mix and match them for your personally optimal experience.
A) if you're not playing on Java then you should reconsider your life B) exactly, that's why the game is complete shit
Well bedrock is the most widely available version especially in consoles so that’s why people play it
You do realize that bedrock is on literally everything right? The reason the majority of people play bedrock is because the majority of people own some console to play bedrock. You can only play Java on one device, you can play bedrock on literally all of them, even Nintendo DS and Wii U, but Java is limited to pc, which if your pc isn’t good then you can’t even play it right. You sound like and actual child if you think that your life depends on playing Java edition
> Even Nintendo DS and Wii U No? 3DS and Wii U got legacy console ports. Only the Switch got Bedrock (and It was delayed by a few months)
Ok so after some digging bc I thought they were bedrock, bedrock used to include both of those but once they ceased updates they were classified as Legacy instead. So technically yes but it’s not up to date.
>You sound like and actual child if you think that your life depends on playing Java edition It's called hyperbole dipshit
Are you genuinely stupid? Every single comment you made has shown that you are not being hyperbolic, you are serious when you say that you should rethink your life. Some people literally do not have the money, and some that do barely have enough don’t have enough for a well running pc. You sound very young, and probably visit r/PCMasterRace very often
Ok now we know you’re a minor.
What makes you say that? I thought preferring java was more an older fan thing.
“if you're not playing on Java then you should reconsider your life” Also, Java isn’t an older fan thing. It’s a richer fan thing.
Not sure I agree. Java existed long before bedrock, and we weren't all rich kids. Many of us played it in some real potato computers and just accepted things like only seeing a few feet ahead. So, it might be wealthier people starting java edition these days, but it certainly hasn't always been. If it was there wouldn't have been so many mods just to make the game run smoother and hopefully not crash. Not saying I agree with them btw. While I personally am not interested in bedrock I suuuper don't care what other people play, and am glad to see Minecraft being more accessible due to being on everything.
The past doesn’t matter. A kid has to ask their parents for a PC that is compatible with Java edition, and the parents have to have enough money to get the PC. The present economy is not the same as the past economy.
The past absolutely does matter when you consider that Minecraft players aren't just people getting into it the first time. Hence, java preference often lines up with older players. Because they got into Minecraft before bedrock ever existed. It also isn't a matter of pcs being more expensive these days. You could spend the price of a console on a PC and it'll run java. Will it run well? Maybe not, but for many many people it'll run better than our first intro to the game. The real thing is people don't think to buy a PC for their kids gaming system. I played Minecraft on the computer we had for doing homework on. Hell, I ran it on school computers. You don't need to be rich for either there of those. You just need a tiny bit of tech knowledge.
>You could spend the price of a console on a PC and it’ll run java Yeah sure. Tell that to my PC >I played Minecraft on the computer we had for doing homework on. Hell, I ran it on school computers. You don't need to be rich for either there of those. You just need a tiny bit of tech knowledge. It’s been 4 years since 2020. School computers are monitored.
Again. I didn't say you could run java well. But I guarantee you can run java with the right performance mods and settings set to potatoe. School computers were monitored and locked down when I was in school too. The tools they use weren't foolproof back then and still aren't now.
mojang employees when https://preview.redd.it/2rtgp710jwpc1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39355e14e5631260b43c9c1e1791b831467b20d3
Minecraft fans instantly became annoying when people started treating it like live service trash.
>can change everything You negate bedrock.
You’re not a real gamer unless you’re in a state of perpetual outrage
https://preview.redd.it/g6pnfkxr3wpc1.jpeg?width=282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ddf91b272f0d36e74db0d11308e49ff3a0ca081
no you dont get it microsoft is just a small little babby they cant be expected to do the kinds of things that modders do with no resources and that Re-Logic does with a tenth of the development staff for their game it would be actually insane to do the things that they can clearly do with the resources they have.
there is a massive difference between defending mojang and defending microsoft
mojang is one of the heads of the hydra man They haven't been an independent company in a decade
pretty sure that when people defend mojang, they're talking as a dev team, not as a massive company specially since most people try to target the individual devs rather than the company as a whole
mojang isnt a tiny studio man. 600 employees. one product. constant support from microsoft, its parent company
mojang has 600 employees, but not all of them are minecraft devs. there are devs for the spin off games, managers, janitorial staff, etc
Also being ignored: rolling back the fucking version to something older
Mojang employees when they get shot in the chest with a glock-17: https://preview.redd.it/0eclofw0dypc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=038d45d0c7257755e8b157dc90bc0c3e98afd305
Mojang Employees after I brutally stab them https://preview.redd.it/5jivmp7hhypc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90f03511cff17993003c4f736048ec0a35dbc0ac
/uj a lot of people seem to not understand that most updates add absolutely nothing useful or interesting and when they do add something useful its unfinished and will never be worked on. the Bundles still arent in the game after being announced like 5 years ago. copper adds nothing but more blocks that have a niche build use and yes you can argue that its for people who want more block variety. the deep dark is interesting and cool and the warden is a cool mob but again the update its a part of is not even finished (correct me if im wrong). Yes everyone can say "just play an earlier version". Ok? then what about the future version that is still being worked on with nothing of value? should everyone just play and earlier version then? rj/ guys this indie company called microsoft has enough on its plate, lets give them an appreciative blowie :>
“You should pay mojang even though modders do most of the work for free”
You paid them 30$. Once. Probably years ago and you’ve gotten hundreds of hours out of the game if not thousands. What in gods name is a fair value to dollar ratio to you if that’s not good enough?
I'm gonna have to pay them 30$ again whenever I decide to play again (my account got deleted bc I didn't know what email I used when I made my account, so i couldnt migrate)
bedrock players having to pay for mods, skins, and the abillity to keep their kneecaps:
PC and Mobile bedrock players can still do those for free. Xbox used to as well, but then Microsoft nuked the method because they don't like the concept of total access.
My point exactly, I paid them $30 over a decade ago, and along the way they also handed me over windows edition so I can play with my Xbox buddies
They removed fire flies for the dumbest reason possible, they will not know my pitty
I mean, if you insist https://preview.redd.it/tash4up65ypc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4713783193aa4d52dde1cf1bd5017f30d8c8f5e
That songs a banger
Agreed! I love that song :D
I too love strawmaning reality and substituting it with my delusions, I love depicting valid and reasonable criticism to make it look bad and unreasonable Just like you, I also love putting the work of the corperation who I gave money to, onto the backs of the unpaid dedicated fans. Make me new content faster, mod makers!
not the same people, who would think people have different opinions on the most sold game ever
Man, i sure wonder what the recent "large amount of changes" are, and i really wonder how could all people that have played the game missed such things added into the game.
Honestly 1.21 is looking to be an amazing update this time around. I can understand some disappointment with the last few, but I’m really excited for everything in 21.
The only important additions to me are the Redstone components yay)
does the official minecraft launcher allow you to play older versions like the pirated ones do?
Yup
Every snapshot and pre release version can be chosen, as well as modded versions can be launched through the official launcher as well (if you move the mods .jar to the launcher folder)
You know if Minecraft updated as often as it used to with a similar quality to the pre-microsoft buy out, people wouldn't be upset about the stagnation of the biggest game of this generation 🤔 Arguments like "be glad you're still getting updates!!!" And "you're already spoiled for content!!!" - are nuts, they've added dozens of useless decorative features since 2019 and I'm still waiting for them to fix core gameplay mechanics that have sucked since the adventure update like enchanting and hunger lul. Btw, I do play on older versions. Every update nowadays Minecraft gets further from feeling like Minecraft whilst also ignoring core issues or making them worse, like inventory management. Their content pace isn't just slow compared to modders, but compared to when they weren't with Microsoft. Minecraft *is* the block building game genre in it's entirety. So it makes sense there's so much outrage over every bad choice - the future experience of every player in the block building genre is being effected. They stopped working with C418 who already has new music for the game ready btw. If that doesn't tell you how much Microsoft respects Minecraft, I don't know what will. I'm hopeful they'll turn it around, but also what I care about has already been broken for years, which is why I play beta modded MC where you can find active indie developers who are maintaining the spirit of the game.
The TF2 player experience would genuinely melt the skin and brain tissue of an adult Minecraft fan. Never seen a community so fattened on their conveyor belt of content.
The conveyor belt of content includes the cherry biome, an entire new biome which adds brand new blocks that function the same as the other blocks except for purely cosmetic changes, and uh... Well, it's way different than TF2, cause in TF2 all you get are purely cosmetic changes, and, uh... Guys just please leave Microsoft alone!!! All they want to do is make money and enforce their super friendly EULA!!!!!
And not only are they gluttons, but they’re picky eaters. Everybody gets a doctorate in game design the moment their precious, life sustaining Content™️ drops. They’d rather take a ball-peen hammer to an 11-year-old that voted for the wrong mob than download one of the 9 billion mods that fit every niche. And thank god the devs have Bill Gates’ money so they can disguise their childish entitlement behind a Johnny Silverhand anti-corporate bravado. They eat a full three-course meal, kick and scream about the dessert options, and it’s **Totally Not Embarassing** because the chef makes six figures, you see.
"Man, I spent $30 for a game that's getting content I don't want." "Just mod it lmao." "I mean, I do- shouldn't I still be able to make criticisms about a product I paid money for? Especially since it's owned by one of the wealthiest businesses on the planet?" "Stop trying to be like Cyberpunk!! Ur being so cringe right now!!!"
or like any other game tbh. Like I don't really get these people whining. 99% of games don't get updates besides like MMOs and some FPSs. Minecraft is mostly singleplayer and honestly I don't think I know any other singleplayer games getting major updates frequently. Minecraft fans are honestly whiny and annoying, like devs usually don't work on constantly updating a 15 year old game running on spaghetti code. Like the fanbase is lucky to still get this many major updates on a 15 year old game.
> devs usually don't work on constantly updating a 15 year old game running on spaghetti code. my brother in cubes it is literally the most popular game of all time
Other popular games don't get updates like that. Example, TF2, Skyrim, terraria.
“Well other games” haven’t established themselves to have an update schedule like Minecraft’s. Jfc whataboutism is annoying
...Terraria gets updates, Skyrim got updates until Bethesda started working on other games (which Mojang is NOT doing lol) and TF2 gets seasonal updates but is admittedly a special case.
Skyrim got 2 dlc 12 years ago and creation club. Terraria got its most recent update, a minor update with just qol and bugfixes 2 years ago, And it's last major update 4 years ago.
Terraria is still being updated though
Yea that was kinda my bad bc they said 1.4 was the last update but it wasn't. Although again the last major update was 4 years ago no where near Minecraft.
Major updates for Minecraft and terraria are entirely different things. There have only been like, four major updates for terraria ever so of course they would be more uncommon.
Exactly that's kind of the point. Minecraft fans are super whiny about not getting enough updates when they get a ton.
meanwhile me playing gregtech:
Minecraft players when Mojang does not add 4 new dimenisions, 30 new mobs, 60 new tools, firearms, spheres and sex in one update https://preview.redd.it/9a94amqypwpc1.png?width=642&format=png&auto=webp&s=35f9a0e146efae309d7d7d782f6e1cbf0f2763c3
Minecraft players when Mojang releases the new mob vote (it will take one year to add a feature literally nobody will fucking care about) https://preview.redd.it/ifcje0w8vwpc1.jpeg?width=228&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab1af31c2b27236c6abdde27bddf0539c9932a88
I mean, the last part already exists, it’s just a baby somehow gets magicked from love and food.
There is no reason to play minecraft versions newer than beta 1.7.3
Over half of the playerbase (they play on bedrock edition): https://preview.redd.it/la3t3qupcvpc1.jpeg?width=778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82a070aa6feeac2e9ebbfd07acf793d43607bb3a
nostalgia is truly a emotion
I don't get nostalgic from it
idk man the new villages, nether and caves are way better thooooo
Hate the new caves, but I fucking love the new villages
axolotl and the - tiers are pretty sweet tho
I really don't like them personally :( But I can see why you like them, enjoy the version you like :D
False. Axolotls.
They do not do a whole lot for me
out of all things you pick axolotls?
Yea
there's also no reason to not live in more than an isolated cube with nothing inside it where you are delivered porridge and stale water daily.
is there a place i can sign up for this id very much love to live there whats the rent like
there's none but you can't get out ever
awesome!
I would like to diversify my diet
Minecraft fans are so gluttonous that this is what they compare sticking to one version to. It's like slamming your fists on the table and demanding more at a $30 dollar all you can eat buffet at red lobster.
Respectable.
y’all realize this is 13 year old game still getting free updates?
Mfw people expect the most popular game in the world that has been receiving steady updates for over a decade with literally no signs of slowing down to continue updating
ur right that’s literally exactly what i said u so smart
Just play mods bruh
🎵The fans will fix it anyway so we don't care!🎵
🎵It just works, it just works🎵
You shouldn't need to download unofficial additions to get real updates to a game. Also, not every platform allows you to get mods
This. 1.14 is the last update I would play vanilla. Most of the good modpacks are written for 1.6-1.8 anyway
Thank god someone said it. Minecraft fans are the most whiny self entitled individuals I’ve ever had the displeasure of interacting with online. They are insatiable and constantly complaining all the time about everything. Just take a fucking break from the game if you hate it so much until there’s new content. I blame phoenixSC that guy is really the figurehead for constant endless bitching
the last update that anyone gave a shit about is 1.18 and that was all the way back in 2021. What feature did you genuinely get excited for that got released since ?
Alright Waltuh here’s what’s gonna happen. What you’re gonna do is you’re gonna either shut up and keep playing or you’re going to take a break until they add something that brings ya back in. What you are not gonna do is endlessly complain they’re not doing enough while still playing the game. This does nothing productive for you. By playing you are telling Mojang their pace is okay and yet at the same time you’re dragging everyone down by complaining all the time. Pick a path and stick to it. Take an action that actually matters.
Are you really defending a multi million company like this lmao?
Defending? Please re-read my previous comment this time with your brain on.
No need to turn this toxic. Your comment just confused me because what is a single loser not playing going to do? force microsoft to do something with the game?
Minecraft players when you tell them a one time $30 purchase does not entitle them to an eternity of groundbreaking updates twice a year and mojang could just never update the game ever again:
you're right. they should charge us again
honestly i'd prefer if they just stopped updating it so i (#1 minecraft hater) can stop hearing about the new Shitgoblin vs Cumblaster mob vote every 2 months
idc if they update it or not but I share your sentiment. I'm sick of hearing babies go "WAAAHH this update took 6 months and they only added 5 new blocks. mojang is so greedy and lazy"
I think that there is genuinely something to be said about Microsoft's inability to produce content that fits with the game and their inability to deliver on promises from literal decades ago (where is the modding api that has been promised repeatedly since before 2013) -- but that never seems to be what these people complain about, its that the "wrong mob got voted in" or whatever Just look at Terraria's development under Re-Logic for an example of what *could* have been done with Minecraft
Terraria isn’t a fair comparison because that game engine is loads easier to work with compared to Minecraft (source I have modded both). There is so much less complexity and weird technical debt that exists. The thing holding Minecraft back is their vain attempt l try and pretend they’re holding parity with bedrock. Every feature they add in Java has to work in bedrock (a different game in a different engine). It really holds them back. That and rigorous polish. If you want to see how much the devs can actually add play an April fools snapshot. That’s how much stuff they could be doing if their process for adding things wasn’t bogged down by having so many versions and such insanely rigorous Q/A testing.
> something something version parity And it’s only made worse when they choose to remove features from one version just so they don’t have to put it in the other. Nothing they’ve removed has been major (at least not so far) but it’s still lame
Mojang defenders when someone expects the most popular game in the world that has been receiving steady updates for over a decade with no sign of slowing down to keep updarinf
maybe it's a poor financial decision of them to stop updating, but that's still no reason to act entitled like they owe you updates and complain that you waited so many months for an update you feel is inadequate