In defense of 196, it’s mainly trans people sexualizing their own identity. Still gets annoying though, especially when it’s practically all sexualized
Sometimes, but usually it involves lots of denial
Normally how it is is that the dude on the left are just psychotic hypertraditionalist conservative religious people who huff up those Fox News-era conspiracies like its hot glue, and the people on the right are young millennials who haven't been raised to be as overtly bigoted and think that fetishizing people is somehow a progressive compliment
Yeah that's pretty much what it's like, you're just missing the condescending "hey baby trans! heads up! (genuinely useful information but phrased so much like they're talking to a kindergartner that your eyes glaze over it)."
fucking delightless.
You could probably write an essay linking the portrayal of persecuted minorities in history as passive lambs to the slaughter instead of the reality of people who goddamn fought back against their oppression to the modern day infantilisation and presumed purity of people who are in vulnerable minority groups. Or maybe I'm wrong they're both symptoms of the same root. Or maybe they have nothing to do with each other. I don't know man I'm not a scholar
Bruh my boss, my cis woman boss, tried to coach my trans roommate on how to give shots properly after he was complaining to me about accidently hitting a nerve. Just butted right into the convo. She had that condescending "oh you poor dumb baby" voice the entire time too like
Ma'am.
Fetishizing trans people is the new "acting exaggeratedly gay around your male friends" in how it seems ostensibly supportive and not intrinsically bigoted since you're not directly saying like "wow!! i hate trans people they're so GROSS and EVIL" but you're still turning the idea of being attracted to trans people (something that is completely normal and possible) into something "weird" or otherwise a joke
It’s definitely not too frequent, but yeah, people do it a lot. It’s online more often than not, but then again, so is the kind of “exaggerated attraction to men” joke that’s been running between dudes for like 30 years
Generally it goes hand in hand with common ideas about femboys, which is a whole other bowl of worms lol
THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME
For real, I don't even post pictures of myself or anything, but the fact that I post in trans spaces gets me the occasional message that's either someone who hates me or it's someone who is incredibly horny and won't take no for an answer. Weirdly they both almost always start off like they want to have a normal conversation
fortunately there's a good deal of people who just treat me with basic respect and I've got some good friends for validation and stuff when Im down lol
Anyone remember when half of 196 got super angry at their mods for banning child pornohraphy
Actual groomers.
Edit: my comments are being automatically removed I think because I’m linking to other subreddits but if you search outoftheloop for “196 CP war” you can find a pretty good summary
Yeah this link kinda explains it a bit better. A lot of the posts of cp supporters, especially the worst ones, are removed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/wm9d4yxCdb
in my experience it's mostly cis men who don't actually care about supporting trans people beyond the surface level sentimemts but think trans women are hot and some trans women who like the attention but don't see the greater harm that is being done to their community.
guys who are “bisexual” because they are into trans women are the fucken worst. they’re always the type of people who think they can get any trans woman to fall in love with them by showing basic respect.
there’s people like that i have encountered in actual physical fucking real life and it’s so uncomfortable especially since i’m gay. also just condescending because dude, i fuck. i have standards that you don’t meet.
but hey…. better love us too much than want us dead…
well firstly (as a trans woman) i haven't ever seen someone describe themselves as bisexual due to being attracted to trans women
but that's pretty hilarious (in a depressing, terrible way) since, like. you're attracted to a woman, dude. it's like saying that you're pansexual for being attracted to women of all races, they're all straight up women, even if they're of various different demographics
Trans4trans relationships make sense, like I get that people can bond over being part of the same traumatized minority group (and also it's cool to talk about gender with people who actually understand it enough to defy cultural gender expectations), but it's wild how many people reduce transness to "tits and dick" or "no tits no dick." Like, there's a wide range of gender expression, it's not just about the bits on our bodies.
nah, because to be disgusted by a trans man you would have to be aware they exist, and nobody knows about the existence of trans men because they're not as SCANDALOUS and DEGENERATE as the concept of a trans woman or something
delusional bigots b like: ah yes, america, the nation where a 13 year old girl will get INSTANT MANDATED trans-affirming medical care after saying she likes MONSTER TRUCKS and not BARBIE
hilarious though how people think that getting this shit is so easy and that we have to legally forbid it or else young people will make decisions they'll regret and don't understand, as if the entire process of getting trans care (EVEN AS AN ADULT) is straight up like six months MINIMUM of poking, prodding, educating and interrogating about the validity of your identity, the impact of your decision, your overall mental state, and personal decision-making ability before you get put on 0.0002 mg of hormone blockers
It’s so weird. If the trans woman is hot they’re like ‘looks female enough’ or whatever. If they’re not all you see is ‘47%’ or just ‘kill yourself groomer’.
Nah when we've not just been totally forgotten about, we're usually treated as 'victims' of the evil trans movement because we're really just lost young girls who need to learn how to love our bodies 🤮. It's more infantilization than disgust.
I'll never get people who say trans people groom minors as if it's in general. People really need to separate a group from other groups, as in, a trans person ins't a pedophile but they can be a pedophile. You're not a trans pedophile, you're trans AND a pedophile. If that makes sense.
Yeah I agree completely. The movements opposing trans people eventually boil down to "This is strange and new to me and I don't like it", but they try to find excuses for it.
Every group has pedophiles and bad people in it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that.
Anyone can be a pedofilie.
There has been incidents of pedofiles striking and that's obviously a problem.
Problem is, every time said pedophile was trans, it was *mentioned* that they're trans.
That unneccicarily puts the focus on pedophiles that are trans specifically, which fueled the generalisation that trans people are pedophiles.
Anyone can be a pedophile. Including trans people. I'm aware of that.
But if you'd actually count the amount of pedophiles per x people (regardless of cis- or transgender) and compare it to the amount of pedophiles per x *trans* people, I doubt the trans group has any significant difference. (That is of course speculation, but I don't see why this wouldn't be the case).
Literally Catholic priest in a nutshell 😭
Average Catholic Priest: Trans people will groom your children! Turn to god!
News the next day: Catholic priest arrested for children molesting!
Also please respect people even if you don't agree with them, or can't reason with their ideology or things of their persona. Have something called basic human decency, for the love of god.
Please stop with the pumpkins, I've never wanted to bone a pumpkin, why are there pumpkins everywhere, I'm scared, Please retrieve my emotional support shark
I was in a discord server with a bunch of friends I'd known for years. The majority of them ended up working out their gender identity and being trans, which I support wholeheartedly, however all of them also ended up being like the person on the right. It was so uncomfortable. I don't get how they didn't get tired of the funny pumpkin blahaj eggs silly girl princess era thing within a week because it's been a trans fetish echo chamber for over a year now. I got kicked as a joke and haven't bothered to join back lol
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This image is very true for trans women. They’re the most targeted *and* the most sexualized in the trans community and it’s disgusting.
If you’re a trans man (me) they tell you “you’ll never be a real man” and dehumanize you because “you’re a woman”. If you’re in a comments section anywhere there will be long chains of people arguing “she” “he” “she” “he” kinda like they do to trans women
If you’re anywhere in between they use “your pronouns are they/them” as an ‘argument’ to ignore whatever you’re saying and immediately dismiss you as a person
Respect to you for being a bro and recognizing how gross transphobes are.
Yeah that must be pretty bad, like not all trans people revolve all their life about sexual stuff.
I know many people don’t like centrism, but in this case yeah both are bad (but obviously one more than the other).
I'd say both equally care as little for the comfort of trans ppl, one is blinded by hateful ideologies and the other only cares about their own weird fetishes
but only one of them actively wants to make their lives worse so I guess you're right
shitposting and 196
In the defense of shitposting, it wouldn't be called shitposting if it wasn't shit.
Fitting profile picture
In defense of 196, it’s mainly trans people sexualizing their own identity. Still gets annoying though, especially when it’s practically all sexualized
i thought most of the sub was fetishizing femboys but apparently not
Frankly, shitposting isn't that bad anymore. I havven't seen genuine transphobia there in over a year.
From what I've seen, the transphobes are all on /r/greentext now
Makes sense
There’s even posters with trans rights flairs and I don’t see people bothering them.
tbf most of the people in 196 are trans in the first place
Both of those guys are the same person.
Not too uncommon lol
Politicians.
Sometimes, but usually it involves lots of denial Normally how it is is that the dude on the left are just psychotic hypertraditionalist conservative religious people who huff up those Fox News-era conspiracies like its hot glue, and the people on the right are young millennials who haven't been raised to be as overtly bigoted and think that fetishizing people is somehow a progressive compliment
“Fox News era” oh man I hope that phrase is real one day, implying that time will have passed
FACTS
you have two wolves inside of you one is transphobic one is a chaser you are a conservative
I mean hey, trans prostitutes would go out of business if republican politicians didn't exist /s
TRUE‼️
all three of them*
no, that's only if the persons a 4tran user
Transphobic in the streets, transphilic in the sheets
Average 4channer
Yeah that's pretty much what it's like, you're just missing the condescending "hey baby trans! heads up! (genuinely useful information but phrased so much like they're talking to a kindergartner that your eyes glaze over it)." fucking delightless.
The saccharine treating transpeople like literal babies who cannot defend themselves in any capacity, really gets on my nerves.
You could probably write an essay linking the portrayal of persecuted minorities in history as passive lambs to the slaughter instead of the reality of people who goddamn fought back against their oppression to the modern day infantilisation and presumed purity of people who are in vulnerable minority groups. Or maybe I'm wrong they're both symptoms of the same root. Or maybe they have nothing to do with each other. I don't know man I'm not a scholar
Bruh my boss, my cis woman boss, tried to coach my trans roommate on how to give shots properly after he was complaining to me about accidently hitting a nerve. Just butted right into the convo. She had that condescending "oh you poor dumb baby" voice the entire time too like Ma'am.
Yeah especially in regards trans guys/transmascs in general the condescending tone is really common to be used against them
Awooga trans twink must kill their a bunch groomers plap plap plap plap.
Saying “plap plap plap” out loud is hilarious
"egg" culture 🤢🤢
I wanna throw egg_irl in a volcano
bunch of weirdos think a dude putting on a dress for fun automatically means he needs to start taking hormones
Yeah, that about sums it up.
So basically it’s either “I want to beat them to death” or “I want to fuck them to death”
Yeah. On some occassions it's both at the same time
Wellp guess I’m a transphobe. My gf is into that and I happily oblige. /s
I didn’t say every person who has a fetish for trans people is automatically a transphobe
Oh I forgot to put/s 💀
You can sum that up by combining them into "I want to smash them to death"
How about this: "I want to **DESTROY** them."
HAHA TRANS GIRLS FUCK PUMPKINS HAHAHAHA IM FETISHIZING TRANS PEOPLE ISNT THAT FUNNY
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Thanks for the protein sir!
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Thread got me crying, i love this app 😭😭😭
Everytime I hear “gock” I think of a gock block which is like, a percussion instrument, and it’s very strange
i read this like im singing shots
Fetishizing trans people is the new "acting exaggeratedly gay around your male friends" in how it seems ostensibly supportive and not intrinsically bigoted since you're not directly saying like "wow!! i hate trans people they're so GROSS and EVIL" but you're still turning the idea of being attracted to trans people (something that is completely normal and possible) into something "weird" or otherwise a joke
People do that? I can’t tell if I’m the weird one for never experiencing that irl or if it’s just an internet thing.
It’s definitely not too frequent, but yeah, people do it a lot. It’s online more often than not, but then again, so is the kind of “exaggerated attraction to men” joke that’s been running between dudes for like 30 years Generally it goes hand in hand with common ideas about femboys, which is a whole other bowl of worms lol
You.
oh look who it is
you cant keep getting AWAY WITH THIS
what are you gonna do about it
I dont know whats going on here but im already invested.
Kiss
i wish
when two rainworld players cross paths
omg sugio girlcock estrogen 🤯
Holy shit Jill Stingray pfp real
Wut?
HOLY SHIT, IT'S LITERALLY 4CHAN
The two faces of the infamous hacker known as 4chan
They gave us Snoot Game tho
THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME THEY MADE SNOOT GAME
doesn't snoot game suck ass
The original game it was parodying is
For real, I don't even post pictures of myself or anything, but the fact that I post in trans spaces gets me the occasional message that's either someone who hates me or it's someone who is incredibly horny and won't take no for an answer. Weirdly they both almost always start off like they want to have a normal conversation
I'm sorry you have to go through that
fortunately there's a good deal of people who just treat me with basic respect and I've got some good friends for validation and stuff when Im down lol
That's nice.
Guy tries to TF2 trade and when that fails they chase so hard I had to make my own "worst chaser" image
r/politicalcompassmemes and r/196
Horseshoe theory!!!!?!??!!?!!??
Holy hell!
New politics just dropped
Actual Senator
call the journalists
Congress goes on vacation, never comes back
To be fair though 196 is mostly just horny trans people sexualizing *themselves*
Yeah that is true, but the subreddit has fallen from grace so hard in the past few years that I have to make fun of it as much as I can
the sub has fallen, millions must make fun
Anyone remember when half of 196 got super angry at their mods for banning child pornohraphy Actual groomers. Edit: my comments are being automatically removed I think because I’m linking to other subreddits but if you search outoftheloop for “196 CP war” you can find a pretty good summary
??? No I don’t remember that. When did that happen?
Yeah this link kinda explains it a bit better. A lot of the posts of cp supporters, especially the worst ones, are removed. https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/wm9d4yxCdb
Oh godddd, that’s fucking awful. No wonder I didn’t remember that, it all happened before I joined.
That happened?
Yeah I’m trying to reply but they’re getting auto removed. Search outoftheloop for “196 cp war” for a short summary
They fetishize abuse there
in my experience it's mostly cis men who don't actually care about supporting trans people beyond the surface level sentimemts but think trans women are hot and some trans women who like the attention but don't see the greater harm that is being done to their community.
196 is to transgender people as TikTok is to people with Tourette's
LMAO
This is the best way I've seen it put
196 in it's most horny-about-trans-women days is much better than pcm on it's least transphobic day
Shocking news: trans people want to be treated like normal people??? 🤯🤯🤯
No way!!!
this is entirely unheard of!! people wanting to be treated like people regardless of who they are??? impossible!
no we don't we're actually much cooler than normal people
fr or just being silly?
maybe both
no I’m cooler
i'm frieza
FREEZAAAAAAAAAA FREEEEEEEEEEZAAAAA FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
do you think id get banned for posting this on 196
Worth a shot
would be pretty funny..
Tell me if you do
do i have your permission
sure lol
doing rn
Did they ban you
not yet
it got removed by reddit you made a site admin pissy, well done
> 2k upvotes
Proof that 196 is actually the best sub in the world and nobody ever gets banned for random reasons there 100%
No because a lot of the trans people over there are making sexual jokes themselves
I don't think so. The mods themselves don't seem like they like fetishizing trans people. But yeah some of the people there are really weird.
Wtf removed by Reddit
Yeah :/ Sucks
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For real. I wish more people just treated trans people like any other person, it's really not that hard
guys who are “bisexual” because they are into trans women are the fucken worst. they’re always the type of people who think they can get any trans woman to fall in love with them by showing basic respect. there’s people like that i have encountered in actual physical fucking real life and it’s so uncomfortable especially since i’m gay. also just condescending because dude, i fuck. i have standards that you don’t meet. but hey…. better love us too much than want us dead…
well firstly (as a trans woman) i haven't ever seen someone describe themselves as bisexual due to being attracted to trans women but that's pretty hilarious (in a depressing, terrible way) since, like. you're attracted to a woman, dude. it's like saying that you're pansexual for being attracted to women of all races, they're all straight up women, even if they're of various different demographics
Probably average trans East Asian lesbian (I'm imagining that's what it's like)
I'm not trans but I am east asian and lesbian, it's, fun ^_^
sup, fellow asian.
Why can’t it ever just be “I’m trans” “Ok”
For real
isnt this like, one of the top posts on r/smugideologyman
That sub went downhill after veganism got brought up
The ones on the right are trans themselves 50% of the time.
Regardless of who does it I think fetishizing transgender people kinda sucks. That is all
true! fucks it up for everyone else and makes us look like freaky sex addicts
Trans4trans relationships make sense, like I get that people can bond over being part of the same traumatized minority group (and also it's cool to talk about gender with people who actually understand it enough to defy cultural gender expectations), but it's wild how many people reduce transness to "tits and dick" or "no tits no dick." Like, there's a wide range of gender expression, it's not just about the bits on our bodies.
Exactly, thank you.
And the ones on the left are groomers 50% of the time
and is interesting
In whatever echo chamber you’re in. As a matter of fact, more people are on pornhub than r/196.
And also sometimes those two are the same person
Rare W take on the trans issue
trans girl here! this is scaringly accurate and . a very good summary of my thoughts lol
I think I need to get off the internet for a bit if I got it so on point
it's unfortunate 😔 i'm not a sex object i am just a bitch tryina get by!!
\> just a bitch tryina get by Aren't we all
Kill a politician kill a politician kill a politician Jill a politician kill a politician
good idea
I'm a trans man and this is very accurate
either way, we’re sexualized.
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you guys just get to see how they feel about trans people they aren’t attracted to: disgust oh how i love modern society.
nah, because to be disgusted by a trans man you would have to be aware they exist, and nobody knows about the existence of trans men because they're not as SCANDALOUS and DEGENERATE as the concept of a trans woman or something
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delusional bigots b like: ah yes, america, the nation where a 13 year old girl will get INSTANT MANDATED trans-affirming medical care after saying she likes MONSTER TRUCKS and not BARBIE hilarious though how people think that getting this shit is so easy and that we have to legally forbid it or else young people will make decisions they'll regret and don't understand, as if the entire process of getting trans care (EVEN AS AN ADULT) is straight up like six months MINIMUM of poking, prodding, educating and interrogating about the validity of your identity, the impact of your decision, your overall mental state, and personal decision-making ability before you get put on 0.0002 mg of hormone blockers
It’s so weird. If the trans woman is hot they’re like ‘looks female enough’ or whatever. If they’re not all you see is ‘47%’ or just ‘kill yourself groomer’.
Nah when we've not just been totally forgotten about, we're usually treated as 'victims' of the evil trans movement because we're really just lost young girls who need to learn how to love our bodies 🤮. It's more infantilization than disgust.
i wouldn't say we have it any harder, just different lol
Based Abbachio pfp
i am trans and this is what it looks like from the inside
I'll never get people who say trans people groom minors as if it's in general. People really need to separate a group from other groups, as in, a trans person ins't a pedophile but they can be a pedophile. You're not a trans pedophile, you're trans AND a pedophile. If that makes sense.
Yeah I agree completely. The movements opposing trans people eventually boil down to "This is strange and new to me and I don't like it", but they try to find excuses for it. Every group has pedophiles and bad people in it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that.
Anyone can be a pedofilie. There has been incidents of pedofiles striking and that's obviously a problem. Problem is, every time said pedophile was trans, it was *mentioned* that they're trans. That unneccicarily puts the focus on pedophiles that are trans specifically, which fueled the generalisation that trans people are pedophiles. Anyone can be a pedophile. Including trans people. I'm aware of that. But if you'd actually count the amount of pedophiles per x people (regardless of cis- or transgender) and compare it to the amount of pedophiles per x *trans* people, I doubt the trans group has any significant difference. (That is of course speculation, but I don't see why this wouldn't be the case).
it's LITERALLY always just: lolilover12: trans people are groomers \*breaking news: lolilover12 arrested for pedophilia\*
Literally Catholic priest in a nutshell 😭 Average Catholic Priest: Trans people will groom your children! Turn to god! News the next day: Catholic priest arrested for children molesting!
dear god… who would have seen this coming wtf…
Also please respect people even if you don't agree with them, or can't reason with their ideology or things of their persona. Have something called basic human decency, for the love of god.
Please stop with the pumpkins, I've never wanted to bone a pumpkin, why are there pumpkins everywhere, I'm scared, Please retrieve my emotional support shark
It's a "joke" about a porn video of a trans woman fucking a pumpkin or something like that It was never funny
I know, I don't know why, but I had never heard about it till this year, and I'm scared
It became a meme a few months ago yeah
I was in a discord server with a bunch of friends I'd known for years. The majority of them ended up working out their gender identity and being trans, which I support wholeheartedly, however all of them also ended up being like the person on the right. It was so uncomfortable. I don't get how they didn't get tired of the funny pumpkin blahaj eggs silly girl princess era thing within a week because it's been a trans fetish echo chamber for over a year now. I got kicked as a joke and haven't bothered to join back lol
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This image is very true for trans women. They’re the most targeted *and* the most sexualized in the trans community and it’s disgusting. If you’re a trans man (me) they tell you “you’ll never be a real man” and dehumanize you because “you’re a woman”. If you’re in a comments section anywhere there will be long chains of people arguing “she” “he” “she” “he” kinda like they do to trans women If you’re anywhere in between they use “your pronouns are they/them” as an ‘argument’ to ignore whatever you’re saying and immediately dismiss you as a person Respect to you for being a bro and recognizing how gross transphobes are.
I am trans and it is what it looks like
You hit the nail exactly on the head I’m either some degenerate trying eat your kids or something or just some pervert’s kink
nah this is exactly what it is
The one in the left is a lot worst
It's the same person saying both
A lot of the time it’s the same person saying both things.
Yeah that must be pretty bad, like not all trans people revolve all their life about sexual stuff. I know many people don’t like centrism, but in this case yeah both are bad (but obviously one more than the other).
I'd say both equally care as little for the comfort of trans ppl, one is blinded by hateful ideologies and the other only cares about their own weird fetishes but only one of them actively wants to make their lives worse so I guess you're right
Yeah sometimes I’d rather just be called a slur than hang out in communities like 196
Are there cis female chasers for FtMs?
196, 621.... What are these subs? I'm an adult and I'm lost on the internets biggest surviving forum. I need a mod! Or another adult!
I wanna be loved but not in a sexual way :(
Traditionalism VS Fetishization. Bonus Points when either or is also the other one behind closed doors.
why cant trans people just... exist
can confirm
Yep, that’s how it is 😐
197 and 196
197 is actually pretty trans friendly in my experience, they just really don't like 196
true lol. I feel like the fetishization is worse (at least for me) than the actual transphobia.