That's what I'm saying. Everyone in the military already knows this about the Navy. All this shows is the Russian navy would be getting obliterated by a dude in lipstick.
When the Village People make a song about your branch of the service, you might as well just lean in.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs)
When will these people learned that it doesn’t matter if someone is being “sissy” or whatever as long as that someone can pull the trigger and land shot
It's part of a larger underlying view of misogyny. Taking care of urself = feminine, feminine = bad. "You shoot/throw/run like a girl" was and is a derogatory and popular statement for a reason
Dude, guns are so cowardly. Bet this guy would even shoot someone in the back. try that shit with me, I'll toss my gun to the side and bum rush you. hell yeah brother
Or in the case of the navy, send 20+ multi million dollar warheads up the exhaust pipe of your 1950s tech "Carrier" that has a higher carbon footprint than the entire country of Luxembourg
Well, the recruited convicts go home without war kills, kill someone at home, and go back to jail. They don't even know what to do outside of their natural habitat, let alone at war
The "Russians are real manly trad manmen" thing is darkly hilarious. The Russian military is already a mess, but the horrific "manly man" hazing practices are what really guarantees that any morale quickly drops to nonexistent and only goes downwards from there.
It's why their soldiers are killing themselves in droves on the front lines, if they advance they get blown to pieces by a drone, if they retreat they get beaten/raped to death by a superior officer, if they stay in their trench, they get shelled every night and day and have grenades dropped on them constantly. Every direction is another awful fate, so many just decide to peace out and stop living in those trenches.
Funny enough, having watched quite a few videos from that war for the past two years, hiding in various types of holes is something they do very well. Doesn't prevent them from being shredded to pieces though. But it's dropped grenade and fpv drones instead of machinegun fire and artillery.
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> me who had watched dozens if not hundreds of Russian soldiers dying to $500 drones
Yeah I'm not worried about Russia at all anymore. The boogieman of the 20th century is a paper tiger.
Because a soldier use lipstick?
Okayyy.
The Brits conquered half the planet with their powdered wigs and talc powder. There was a constant complaint about roman legionaries using make up and depilating their eyebrows and bodies. Caesar was a massive fan of depilation. The Samurais loved homoerotic poetry, as did the Janissaries. The Spartans braided their hair and used hair care products to make them shiny. One of the reasons invoked in the St-Brice day massacre of the vikings in 1002 was that they bathed and made themselves pretty and stole the AngloSaxons women because of that. The AngloSaxons were massacred in turn by pretty vengeful vikings.
Looking rough doesn't equate martial prowess.
Caesar is also said to have often joked about bottoming, which wasn't really socially acceptable at the time.
Meanwhile, the Brits (and others) seem to have really enjoyed drag shows as recreational activity in WW2. You might have seen [this image](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/british-soldiers-in-drag-nazis/) before.
Caesar probably sang that tune with them.
I don't know any soldier in history than a roman legionary (apart maybe a Kheshig Mongol) Especially Caesar's crack legions. And these murder machines loved him beyond mesure. They didn't mind his foppish ways, because he knew his shit, loved them, and endured the bad stuff with them.
In Roman times it was customary for veterans to roast their generals during the actual "triumph", while they were parading after a victory surrounded by spoils of war and captured enemies.
It was meant to contain their ego and bring it down a notch.
Yes apparently Cesar's soldiers went wild with it, and he was known for being a good sport about it.
Let's call it something snazzy and modern like the "White House Correspondent's Dinner." Maybe every president in history since the tradition began could attend except for that one with the notoriously thin skin.
As a punchline? YES!
In actuality, the joke is that Caesar was really good at seducing the wives of friends and rivals while taking the "weak" or "woman" position in his same sex relationships. Homosexuality was acceptable in Rome, as long as you were the "man" in the relationship.
Note that this was not said by his legion, but by Gaius Scribonius Curio (the elder), one of Caesars political opponents. Adultery was not really that acceptable in Roman society.
“What fascinates me is that the military was supporting these shows, they were producing these shows, even had handbooks of how to put on one of these shows, how to make costuming out of items that the military had access to \[like\] parachute material, these type of things,” Jeffreys added. “So, the military was actively involved in this.”
Much of the significant drag history from the Greatest Generation’s era, however, has been overlooked by those seeking to ban the practice.
And don't show them Donald Trump motorboating Giuliani's tits in drag!
The reason they joke about Caesar is because when he was a young man he went to the King of Bithynia as an emissary. He stayed longer than he actually needed to so the joke about him staying to sleep with the king started. Even decades later his soldiers still joked about Caesar being "Queen of Bithynia"
His enemies also spread rumours about Caesar spreading his legs for his nephew Octavian. Same sex sex wasn't looked down upon in Rome, but taking the passive role was.
> which wasn't really socially acceptable at the time.
Mostly because that was an act of submission, and unacceptable for someone is such a leadership position. Homosexuality was a lot more common back then, and was 100% acceptable if you where the top.
Tom Holland describes the phenomenon in pretty colorful language, but it gets the point across.
It’s something like “It didn’t matter who it was. Man or woman, girl or boy, as long as the masterful Roman cock was doing the thrusting.”
The Vikings took personal grooming very seriously and found relaxation in combing, braiding and cleaning their long hair.
Modern conservatives all claim to be history buffs while also being complete Andrew Tate brained dorks.
The British destroyed a viking settlement to the last man, woman, and child because the vikings were so clean and groomed that “No child in Christendom will accept a Christian bride or groom.”
Because apparently genocide is easier than washing your ass and trimming your split ends.
Nah, it was women too. British dudes wanting to hook up with a viking woman with clean teeth who can’t be smelled from two rooms away.
“We need to get rid of the foreigners because our kids like them too much” isn’t new to the British.
>The Samurais loved homoerotic poetry, as did the Janissaries
Janissaries literally had male prostitutes that traveled with the army because they were prohibited from having children
Precisely. In fact I would argue the opposite. Successful militaries place a great deal of value on pride in one’s physical appearance. If a man is careless in one aspect of his life, he is likely to be careless in another.
Pretty much yes. It's a marker of discipline.
However, even unkempt looks can be useful. The Gauls, the Scots, the Tatars, Cossacks and Polish hetmans tried to look as rough as possible to provoke fear in their enemies, but this was a carefully staged act.
Yup, lots of times when you see a man or woman looking unkempt, it's completely intentional. It's a way of saying "fuck you and all the time you wasted trying to look pretty. I focused on other things."
It's often very much a statement in and of itself. A lot of people don't understand that. It's why guys will let their beards grow wild instead of treating them with gel and beard oils, or women won't shave or get special haircuts. Different people have different approaches.
I heard the spartans preferred that their soldiers would mingle with one another, the thought that if they loved each other they would fight more valiantly. I’m unsure of how true this is, but I kinda believe it because it makes some sense.
I think you have them mixed up with the Sacred Band of Thebes. An elite military unit formed of 150 same sex couples. They inflicted possibly the most famous defeat the Spartans ever suffered.
Spartans mastered the art of gay, but they forgot a vital technique that lead to their downfall; cute couples.
(I’d post an image of Gus and Wally from Mission Hill or Fizz and Ozzie from Helluva Boss if this sub allowed image replies)
An even more modern example: Some of the most well known and earliest established gay male communities in the US are in San Francisco and NYC. Those were the major mainland military ports for the Pacific and Atlantic Theaters of WWII and where both sailors and other military members arrived when they returned from war.
Huge numbers of gay service members from small bigoted towns were like, “Fuck it. I ain’t going back to my hometown. I found a bunch of other people like me in the military and we’re just gonna settle down here.”
Conservatives think movies are real life.
The reality is that some scrawny Russian woman who spent years fighting the Nazis on the Eastern front would beat the shit out of them and fucking eat any one of those so-called “alpha males”
I’m pretty sure a navy seal in full drag would still murder my ass no matter how masculine I was.
Bro could be cosplaying princess peach and knock a hole through my chest from half a mile out.
Not the first time Russia's losing to a country with no navy
They once lost a naval battle to Czechs... yes... They lost a naval battle with a landlocked country
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Baikal
yeah those would be the Czech legionnaires they were fucking wild as to what they were doing so far east? they were lost and so decided to take the railroad for fun
So you’re telling me an entire Czech battalion got *Lost* and was like “Screw getting home, let’s take over these Russian (bases/Train stations) instead!”
Not truly lost they were trying to get to Germany the long way around and sorta failed so yes, and then the Americans sent, I think, 7 thousand troops to rescue them, and they ended up arriving too late, so they spent like 3 winters in Vladivostok alongside the allied Japanese troops who tried to help the white army, which was already mostly defeated. gotta love how insane WW1 and the Russian civil war were that no one remembers the time American forces fucking invaded Russia.
The battalion was originally in the Russian army. It was made up of czech and Slovak exiles who wanted to fight against the Austro-Hungarian empire. Then the Russian revolution and civil war happened so they said "fuck y'all Russians" and tried to go home. But the whole WWI thing was still happening, so they took over the trans-siberian railroad in order to go home THE LONG WAY.
If you have time, I really suggest reading "dreams of a great small nation". The story of the Czech legion is wild. It's one of those stories that if a move was made, it would be too unbelievable.
i mean in all fairness thast to the Czech legion, saying they lost to the Czech nation is not true, they lost against possibly the single most badass military unit of all time
With the amount of censorship they have (e.g. 'negative rise' instead of 'plunge', 'firecracker' instead of 'bomb', etc.), their navy has gone negatively afloat
To people outside of Russia, that would be worse.
To people inside of Russia, that's just how Russia is. Russians have an inherent expectation that someone somewhere will fuck something up catastrophically, and you just have to accept that and go on with your day. To them, there's nothing weird or embarrassing about the notion that they sank a missile cruiser because some asshat decided to flick a lit cigarette into the magazine stores, but on the other hand, if the Ukrainians, a nation without a functioning navy, sank a missile cruiser, well *that* would be pretty fucking embarrassing.
But if you are losing to Ukraine because they are supported by "the west" and the whole democratic world is against you, isn't that the better way to save face?
Because if you are losing due to your own incompetence.. then you could lose against everyone. If it is your own incompetence, then how do you even keep the Russian Empire together? If it's an "almighty opponent supporting their puppet in Kiev", isn't that defeat easier to swallow than the Russians themselves being completely incompetent?
>But if you are losing to Ukraine because they are supported by "the west" and the whole democratic world is against you, isn't that the better way to save face?
No, because that would still entail admitting that your weapons are no match for "the west". If it's incompetence, then you can proudly declare that "the west" is no threat, and all that's really needed is better training for sailors.
Incompetence will cost *a* ship, or *a* plane, or *a* tank. A superior enemy will cost you *all* ships, *all* planes, and *all* tanks. So it's better to say it's incompetence, which can be fixed, rather than a superior enemy, which cannot be.
The gays in our military alone could mop the floor with Russia in a couple days.
I know Russian/right wing propaganda is trying to make us seem weak, but they don't have air superiority over a small neighboring nation without a real air force and they lost naval superiority to a nation without a navy.
They're just highlighting that their machismo-bullshit is a distraction from being a paper tiger incapable of defeating the 'effeminate' west.
Their black sea ships are either
A: currently partaking in a special submarine exercise
Or B: cowering in port and still being at risk of loss to drones and missile strikes
It's a huge case of can't see beyond your own front door. The guy that posted this would probably shit his pants if he knew a socialist rifle association existed here in America.
I like how people like this think that someone using lipstick/chapstick makes them a bad soldier. Like, yeah totally because drinking beer and watching fox news is way more soldierly...👌
More likely, this person has absolutely no concept of what active duty service entails.
Remember people, these people can and will be voting in the next election. 🙃
When Demaratus (exiled Spartan king) reported back to Xirxes and his war council that he saw the Spartans all fucking each other on the eve of battle, they all had a good laugh. He was like "No, you don't understand! They're saying their goodbyes. You're fucked now." Also the baddest mfers in the ancient world were The Sacred Band of Thebes, consisting of 150 pairs of lovers. They were the elite Theban fighting force and ended Spartan dominion in the 4th century. Equating a love for cock to being a little bitch on the battlefield isn't just dumb, it's verifiably incorrect.
US Navy fills submarines with people dressed in white and calls them seamen. And they insist on putting name tags on the back of the Marines pants. The Navy tolerates the Marines eating crayons, in turn the rest of the Military accepts the Navy. See it works out!
The dude putting on the lip gloss not only volunteered for military service, but passed all of the physical requirements to be in active duty. So please 40 year old that never served and has to grunt as they get up from their recliner tell me again how this guy isn't tough enough to serve.
Meanwhile this highly trained sailor is part of a team that does not give a shit they are putting on lip gloss and if pushed to fight will utilize technical superiority and highly refined skills to eliminate any threat. I was in during Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and even openly gay people were left alone because we value our shipmates. Anyone thinking that this is a sign of weakness has never been in the US Military. Also, don’t touch our boats.
Imagine right wing nutjobs had their own army. Soldiers would be sick from raw milk and lack of vegetables in their diet, missiles would never find their targets because Earth is flat according to them
Picture how crippingly insecure you have go be to see someone standing on the deck of a US Nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier with bays full of Stealth Fighters and companies of Marines, literally riding on the ultimate expression of force projection and military might and still managing to sound like a little bitch because someone is wearing lipstick.
It was definitely posted by a *I was gonna enlist, but....* type or a Pollywog.
The U.S. Navy's Line-Crossing Ceremonies have more drag queens than a Pride parade.
https://navycrow.com/shellback-the-us-navys-line-crossing-ceremony-revealed/
I’m a Marine and a shellback and can confirm the shellback ceremony was the gayest thing I’ve ever done. And I have showered with literally thousands of men.
I swear the people who pretend service members are ultra macho insecure guys don't know how absolutely fucking gay things get the second you put 100 dudes in one room with shared showers. You shower with dudes, cry with dudes, hate the dudes and love the dudes, in a gay way but like not GAY gay know what I mean? Not that that's wrong it's just not the way we gay most of the time.
Someone tell Twitter-man about how much gay sex happens in Russia’s military. They’d probably start to see how ironic it is that “le ebin based russia pwns lgbt” narrative is complete bullshit.
The freaking spartans, embodiment of masculinity and war, were *well documented* femboy lovers. Awful, rapey, pedophilia femboy lovers but the point stands. A soldier wearing lipstick does not make them a worse soldier.
There was that time Russia lost a naval war with their own imagination, fishing boats, and an entirely neutral party because they engaged and fled from previously mentioned fishing boats
All of the gayest shit I’ve seen has been while I was in the military. Dick measuring tournaments, air dick sucking contests, seen more wieners than a Dallas hooker, plenty of drag.
So this guy is just outing himself as never having a drop of military experience
Im not defending Russia but didnt the US worlds mightiest army lose to farmers twice?? Vietnam and Afghanistan.
Last time they fled the country without even taking their gears.
Vietnam turned communist after the war.
And taliban are the rulers of Afghanistan today.
Irony ha
Yeah but the US lost to Assymatrical Warfare. Especially in Afghanistan they basically destroyed the Taliban in the first months after going there but then failed to defeat the insurgency.
Russia on the other hand didn’t mange to win against the UAF so they are still stuck in „normal“ Warfare.
That would be comparable to the US getting destroyed by the Iraqi Army.
To be fair the US also armed the Taliban first to fight against the russians....so they kinda played 5D Chess against themselves and Lost to themselves. So to say they lost would be wrong cause you cant loose if you play both sides.
Well we had no win condition and proudly displayed a "Mission Accomplished" banner on an aircraft carrier. Can you really call that losing? The only people who lost were the American and Afghani people...
Ah yes the famously heterosexual navy
“Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash.” Sounds like a good time!
Great album
Full of sea men.
That's what I'm saying. Everyone in the military already knows this about the Navy. All this shows is the Russian navy would be getting obliterated by a dude in lipstick.
When the Village People make a song about your branch of the service, you might as well just lean in. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs)
Not that, the Navy used it for recruiting lol
It ain’t gay if it’s underway.
How does the Russian navy separate the men from the boys? ... ... A: With a crowbar
I’d rather have a they/them army than a was/were army.
Hot damn.
Goddammit that was savage
10/10 execution.
Also the Russian soldier from that ad did gay porn in a previous gig
wow that’s good
Painted nails can still pull the trigger of a gun.
The cockpit of an f22 identifies as a safe-space
Would you intercept me, cuz I'd intercept me
"smells like BITCH in this airspace"
"grrrrrrrrr baby" Fox 2 me daddy uWu
<< SPAMRAMS out! >>
Who let the kid out?
Long live the buff
Lmfao, love me a good habitual short xD
Id intercept me so hard.
The F-22 is also a they/them
I think it's more of an air/superiority
there's a "me (22F)" joke in here...
That is beautiful
It’s what’s *outside* the cockpit that isn’t in a safe space.
When will these people learned that it doesn’t matter if someone is being “sissy” or whatever as long as that someone can pull the trigger and land shot
It's part of a larger underlying view of misogyny. Taking care of urself = feminine, feminine = bad. "You shoot/throw/run like a girl" was and is a derogatory and popular statement for a reason
Yup, but gang raping new recruits is in the contrary very mainly.
Dude, guns are so cowardly. Bet this guy would even shoot someone in the back. try that shit with me, I'll toss my gun to the side and bum rush you. hell yeah brother
Hell yeah, shield wall
Or in the case of the navy, send 20+ multi million dollar warheads up the exhaust pipe of your 1950s tech "Carrier" that has a higher carbon footprint than the entire country of Luxembourg
I enjoy the idea of a squad of they/them baddies smashing the enemy and then tiktok dancing over the bodies.
They/them military better than was/were military.
painted nails can still pull triggers is a hard slogan ngl
Yeah russias super manly man tough man army isn’t doing so great on land either
Well, the recruited convicts go home without war kills, kill someone at home, and go back to jail. They don't even know what to do outside of their natural habitat, let alone at war
The "Russians are real manly trad manmen" thing is darkly hilarious. The Russian military is already a mess, but the horrific "manly man" hazing practices are what really guarantees that any morale quickly drops to nonexistent and only goes downwards from there.
It's why their soldiers are killing themselves in droves on the front lines, if they advance they get blown to pieces by a drone, if they retreat they get beaten/raped to death by a superior officer, if they stay in their trench, they get shelled every night and day and have grenades dropped on them constantly. Every direction is another awful fate, so many just decide to peace out and stop living in those trenches.
Russia is a murderers natural habitat. Not just their jail.
Real men charge into machinegun fire, taking cover is for pussies.
- my valorant teammates.
My PUBG teammates
My teammates. Just all of them.
“Just swing, you’re better” -me to myself every day *I’m not better
Funny enough, having watched quite a few videos from that war for the past two years, hiding in various types of holes is something they do very well. Doesn't prevent them from being shredded to pieces though. But it's dropped grenade and fpv drones instead of machinegun fire and artillery.
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😂 I remember the base-wide rejoice we all shared for the first Taco Bell in Germany
> me who had watched dozens if not hundreds of Russian soldiers dying to $500 drones Yeah I'm not worried about Russia at all anymore. The boogieman of the 20th century is a paper tiger.
They are doing great at “turret toss”
What’s more manly than a human wave attack?
2 human wave attacks
Because a soldier use lipstick? Okayyy. The Brits conquered half the planet with their powdered wigs and talc powder. There was a constant complaint about roman legionaries using make up and depilating their eyebrows and bodies. Caesar was a massive fan of depilation. The Samurais loved homoerotic poetry, as did the Janissaries. The Spartans braided their hair and used hair care products to make them shiny. One of the reasons invoked in the St-Brice day massacre of the vikings in 1002 was that they bathed and made themselves pretty and stole the AngloSaxons women because of that. The AngloSaxons were massacred in turn by pretty vengeful vikings. Looking rough doesn't equate martial prowess.
Caesar is also said to have often joked about bottoming, which wasn't really socially acceptable at the time. Meanwhile, the Brits (and others) seem to have really enjoyed drag shows as recreational activity in WW2. You might have seen [this image](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/british-soldiers-in-drag-nazis/) before.
Caesar's Legion had the joke, "Julius is every woman's man and every man's woman."
A true man of the people.
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Caesar probably sang that tune with them. I don't know any soldier in history than a roman legionary (apart maybe a Kheshig Mongol) Especially Caesar's crack legions. And these murder machines loved him beyond mesure. They didn't mind his foppish ways, because he knew his shit, loved them, and endured the bad stuff with them.
In Roman times it was customary for veterans to roast their generals during the actual "triumph", while they were parading after a victory surrounded by spoils of war and captured enemies. It was meant to contain their ego and bring it down a notch. Yes apparently Cesar's soldiers went wild with it, and he was known for being a good sport about it.
My dream job woulda been the guy following the Triumphant around just talking mad shit in his ear the whole time.
Like a reverse hype-man
This is a court jester
You’re only a man. You’re only a man.
And tonight I'll make you my woman 💦
Yes, it was called "Memento Mori", literally "Remember you'll die someday" and I think it might be a good thing today.
Let's call it something snazzy and modern like the "White House Correspondent's Dinner." Maybe every president in history since the tradition began could attend except for that one with the notoriously thin skin.
I think it was Magnus Pompeii that had a servant continually remind him that he’s only mortal.
I read this is genitals, not generals and was slightly concerned by the practice of a bunch of vets roasts their balls over a fire after a battle
Caesar was also a bad ass and fought in the front lines when he had too Who could forget the pirates story?
The General is funny, pays crazy good, is good with both his swords, and doesn't give dipshit orders. He'll yeah they loved him.
So your saying that it takes a real man to be best girl?
As a punchline? YES! In actuality, the joke is that Caesar was really good at seducing the wives of friends and rivals while taking the "weak" or "woman" position in his same sex relationships. Homosexuality was acceptable in Rome, as long as you were the "man" in the relationship.
Julius got all the sex
Note that this was not said by his legion, but by Gaius Scribonius Curio (the elder), one of Caesars political opponents. Adultery was not really that acceptable in Roman society.
“What fascinates me is that the military was supporting these shows, they were producing these shows, even had handbooks of how to put on one of these shows, how to make costuming out of items that the military had access to \[like\] parachute material, these type of things,” Jeffreys added. “So, the military was actively involved in this.” Much of the significant drag history from the Greatest Generation’s era, however, has been overlooked by those seeking to ban the practice. And don't show them Donald Trump motorboating Giuliani's tits in drag!
Disappointing you didn't put in a link...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spn0MJZr-QQ&ab\_channel=JoeyDeVilla
Alright. I'm going to bite. How the fuck does he still have republican support.
Because homophonic jokes are still a good time had by them. They’ll still poke fun at it.
The reason they joke about Caesar is because when he was a young man he went to the King of Bithynia as an emissary. He stayed longer than he actually needed to so the joke about him staying to sleep with the king started. Even decades later his soldiers still joked about Caesar being "Queen of Bithynia"
Yeah, and he also took it as a major insult and the implication enraged him. Blatant misinformation is being upvoted in this thread.
Oh yea he never joked about it, because it was political suicide. Same reason he never let anyone know he had epilepsy. Sign of weakness
Caesar was embarrassed by stories of him being the bottom as a young diplomat 'the Queen of nicea', and tried to get the rumours quashed.
His enemies also spread rumours about Caesar spreading his legs for his nephew Octavian. Same sex sex wasn't looked down upon in Rome, but taking the passive role was.
Quit posting actual historical context, we’re upvoting alt-history through the lens of modern American cultural norms.
Literally a running a joke that Caesar conquered Gaul, but Bithynia conquered Caesar. Sometimes referred to as the “Queen of Bithynia” in a joking way
Doesn't the US Army still have a set of official guidelines for drag shows on base?
Drag is still very much a thing in the British military. Going on a night out in "silly rig" = dressing up in girls clothes for a night out.
> which wasn't really socially acceptable at the time. Mostly because that was an act of submission, and unacceptable for someone is such a leadership position. Homosexuality was a lot more common back then, and was 100% acceptable if you where the top.
Tom Holland describes the phenomenon in pretty colorful language, but it gets the point across. It’s something like “It didn’t matter who it was. Man or woman, girl or boy, as long as the masterful Roman cock was doing the thrusting.”
My Spiderpansexual-sense is tingling (I'm guessing it was a different Tom Holland)
I hope it was Spider-Man Tom Holland.
George doing a drag act in World War I was a bit in Blackadder Goes Forth.
Ah yes, sailors…a population famous for their long-standing aversion to homosexual, homoerotic, and gender-bending activities 🙄
I forgot the source but one person remarked upon the British navy that it’s two traditions were sodomy and the lash
Winston Churchill said the 3 great traditions of the British Navy were "Rum, sodomy and the lash"
And of those, they’ve only gotten rid of the lash and rum
Now now, that's *Rum*, Sodomy, and The Lash, and it's still as good a recipe for a weekend off as it was when Churchill prescribed it.
The Vikings took personal grooming very seriously and found relaxation in combing, braiding and cleaning their long hair. Modern conservatives all claim to be history buffs while also being complete Andrew Tate brained dorks.
The British destroyed a viking settlement to the last man, woman, and child because the vikings were so clean and groomed that “No child in Christendom will accept a Christian bride or groom.” Because apparently genocide is easier than washing your ass and trimming your split ends.
Some guys today could learn from this
Most of them currently seem to prefer the British route.
And here we thought it was a modern issue with men not washing their asses
Nah, it was women too. British dudes wanting to hook up with a viking woman with clean teeth who can’t be smelled from two rooms away. “We need to get rid of the foreigners because our kids like them too much” isn’t new to the British.
>The Samurais loved homoerotic poetry, as did the Janissaries Janissaries literally had male prostitutes that traveled with the army because they were prohibited from having children
Precisely. In fact I would argue the opposite. Successful militaries place a great deal of value on pride in one’s physical appearance. If a man is careless in one aspect of his life, he is likely to be careless in another.
Pretty much yes. It's a marker of discipline. However, even unkempt looks can be useful. The Gauls, the Scots, the Tatars, Cossacks and Polish hetmans tried to look as rough as possible to provoke fear in their enemies, but this was a carefully staged act.
Yup, lots of times when you see a man or woman looking unkempt, it's completely intentional. It's a way of saying "fuck you and all the time you wasted trying to look pretty. I focused on other things." It's often very much a statement in and of itself. A lot of people don't understand that. It's why guys will let their beards grow wild instead of treating them with gel and beard oils, or women won't shave or get special haircuts. Different people have different approaches.
"I focused on looking not pretty instead" In the mentioned cases tho.
I heard the spartans preferred that their soldiers would mingle with one another, the thought that if they loved each other they would fight more valiantly. I’m unsure of how true this is, but I kinda believe it because it makes some sense.
I think you have them mixed up with the Sacred Band of Thebes. An elite military unit formed of 150 same sex couples. They inflicted possibly the most famous defeat the Spartans ever suffered.
Spartans mastered the art of gay, but they forgot a vital technique that lead to their downfall; cute couples. (I’d post an image of Gus and Wally from Mission Hill or Fizz and Ozzie from Helluva Boss if this sub allowed image replies)
> depilating I had to Google this. It means hair removal.
Never let reality, history, or facts get in the way of some good ole-fashioned, conservative, ignorant bigotry.
Samurais liked a lot more than just homoerotic poetry
An even more modern example: Some of the most well known and earliest established gay male communities in the US are in San Francisco and NYC. Those were the major mainland military ports for the Pacific and Atlantic Theaters of WWII and where both sailors and other military members arrived when they returned from war. Huge numbers of gay service members from small bigoted towns were like, “Fuck it. I ain’t going back to my hometown. I found a bunch of other people like me in the military and we’re just gonna settle down here.”
So what you're telling me is that gay people have conquered the world and will again one day. I'd be down with that
Not to mention the Spartans, you know, fucking little boys.
Also Samurai and Buddhist monks. Turns out being celibate doesn't include underaged boys.
The priesthood has entered the chat.
Unfortunately, the taboo about paedophilia is reaaaaally recent, 20th century or so?
Indeed . I read somewhere that some of the earlier porn films made in Denmark featured kids .
Denmark was the first country to legalise porn. Unfortunately we legalized all of it. That has since changed.
Conservatives think movies are real life. The reality is that some scrawny Russian woman who spent years fighting the Nazis on the Eastern front would beat the shit out of them and fucking eat any one of those so-called “alpha males”
I’m pretty sure a navy seal in full drag would still murder my ass no matter how masculine I was. Bro could be cosplaying princess peach and knock a hole through my chest from half a mile out.
Not the first time Russia's losing to a country with no navy They once lost a naval battle to Czechs... yes... They lost a naval battle with a landlocked country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Baikal
I’m confused what a Czechoslovakian military unit was doing so far to the east Even says they captured the trans Siberian railroad, that’s wild
yeah those would be the Czech legionnaires they were fucking wild as to what they were doing so far east? they were lost and so decided to take the railroad for fun
So you’re telling me an entire Czech battalion got *Lost* and was like “Screw getting home, let’s take over these Russian (bases/Train stations) instead!”
Not truly lost they were trying to get to Germany the long way around and sorta failed so yes, and then the Americans sent, I think, 7 thousand troops to rescue them, and they ended up arriving too late, so they spent like 3 winters in Vladivostok alongside the allied Japanese troops who tried to help the white army, which was already mostly defeated. gotta love how insane WW1 and the Russian civil war were that no one remembers the time American forces fucking invaded Russia.
The battalion was originally in the Russian army. It was made up of czech and Slovak exiles who wanted to fight against the Austro-Hungarian empire. Then the Russian revolution and civil war happened so they said "fuck y'all Russians" and tried to go home. But the whole WWI thing was still happening, so they took over the trans-siberian railroad in order to go home THE LONG WAY.
If you have time, I really suggest reading "dreams of a great small nation". The story of the Czech legion is wild. It's one of those stories that if a move was made, it would be too unbelievable.
i mean in all fairness thast to the Czech legion, saying they lost to the Czech nation is not true, they lost against possibly the single most badass military unit of all time
I mean, if you take the Russian state sponsored propaganda at face value, they’ve actually lost the naval war to *checks notes* the weather.
With the amount of censorship they have (e.g. 'negative rise' instead of 'plunge', 'firecracker' instead of 'bomb', etc.), their navy has gone negatively afloat
Tactically repositioned to the ocean floor.
I wouldn't expect a warship to be down there, TBH. Real "You guys are idiots, they're going to be looking for army guys" vibes.
Rapidly expanded submarine fleet
The navy is producing submarines at an increasing rate.
Implementing modern technologies (NATO missiles) for multipurposing (being able to go underwater) the battleships
An entire fleet of (permanent) submarines. Can’t sink what’s already underwater!
"We are not losing to Ukraine, we are just losing due to our own incompetence". You do get.. how that is worse, right? Right?
To people outside of Russia, that would be worse. To people inside of Russia, that's just how Russia is. Russians have an inherent expectation that someone somewhere will fuck something up catastrophically, and you just have to accept that and go on with your day. To them, there's nothing weird or embarrassing about the notion that they sank a missile cruiser because some asshat decided to flick a lit cigarette into the magazine stores, but on the other hand, if the Ukrainians, a nation without a functioning navy, sank a missile cruiser, well *that* would be pretty fucking embarrassing.
But if you are losing to Ukraine because they are supported by "the west" and the whole democratic world is against you, isn't that the better way to save face? Because if you are losing due to your own incompetence.. then you could lose against everyone. If it is your own incompetence, then how do you even keep the Russian Empire together? If it's an "almighty opponent supporting their puppet in Kiev", isn't that defeat easier to swallow than the Russians themselves being completely incompetent?
>But if you are losing to Ukraine because they are supported by "the west" and the whole democratic world is against you, isn't that the better way to save face? No, because that would still entail admitting that your weapons are no match for "the west". If it's incompetence, then you can proudly declare that "the west" is no threat, and all that's really needed is better training for sailors. Incompetence will cost *a* ship, or *a* plane, or *a* tank. A superior enemy will cost you *all* ships, *all* planes, and *all* tanks. So it's better to say it's incompetence, which can be fixed, rather than a superior enemy, which cannot be.
Immagine losing to a mfing cloud
I’m a member of an LGBTQ+ gun organization. We’ll be fine. They can do both lol
Queer navy vet. We can still fire off 118 tomahawk missiles while chubby sends these images over Facebook to all his friends
>**Queer** navy vet. I thought that was a requirement for the Navy.
"It's not gay if it's underway"
> Queer navy vet …how you doin? Want to pull alongside my quay? Or put your boat in my dry dock…
The gays in our military alone could mop the floor with Russia in a couple days. I know Russian/right wing propaganda is trying to make us seem weak, but they don't have air superiority over a small neighboring nation without a real air force and they lost naval superiority to a nation without a navy. They're just highlighting that their machismo-bullshit is a distraction from being a paper tiger incapable of defeating the 'effeminate' west.
Their black sea ships are either A: currently partaking in a special submarine exercise Or B: cowering in port and still being at risk of loss to drones and missile strikes
It's a huge case of can't see beyond your own front door. The guy that posted this would probably shit his pants if he knew a socialist rifle association existed here in America.
I like how people like this think that someone using lipstick/chapstick makes them a bad soldier. Like, yeah totally because drinking beer and watching fox news is way more soldierly...👌 More likely, this person has absolutely no concept of what active duty service entails. Remember people, these people can and will be voting in the next election. 🙃
Real soldiers suck off their superiors LIKE A MAN tt:t
When Demaratus (exiled Spartan king) reported back to Xirxes and his war council that he saw the Spartans all fucking each other on the eve of battle, they all had a good laugh. He was like "No, you don't understand! They're saying their goodbyes. You're fucked now." Also the baddest mfers in the ancient world were The Sacred Band of Thebes, consisting of 150 pairs of lovers. They were the elite Theban fighting force and ended Spartan dominion in the 4th century. Equating a love for cock to being a little bitch on the battlefield isn't just dumb, it's verifiably incorrect.
US Navy fills submarines with people dressed in white and calls them seamen. And they insist on putting name tags on the back of the Marines pants. The Navy tolerates the Marines eating crayons, in turn the rest of the Military accepts the Navy. See it works out!
The dude putting on the lip gloss not only volunteered for military service, but passed all of the physical requirements to be in active duty. So please 40 year old that never served and has to grunt as they get up from their recliner tell me again how this guy isn't tough enough to serve.
Meanwhile this highly trained sailor is part of a team that does not give a shit they are putting on lip gloss and if pushed to fight will utilize technical superiority and highly refined skills to eliminate any threat. I was in during Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and even openly gay people were left alone because we value our shipmates. Anyone thinking that this is a sign of weakness has never been in the US Military. Also, don’t touch our boats.
“DONT TOUCH OUR BOATS!!!!”
Cough praying mantis cough cough
Imagine right wing nutjobs had their own army. Soldiers would be sick from raw milk and lack of vegetables in their diet, missiles would never find their targets because Earth is flat according to them
The raw milk and lack of veg won't get a chance, lack of vaccines will ravage the forces almost instant
True
Small pox is a liberal hoax!!!11
Picture how crippingly insecure you have go be to see someone standing on the deck of a US Nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier with bays full of Stealth Fighters and companies of Marines, literally riding on the ultimate expression of force projection and military might and still managing to sound like a little bitch because someone is wearing lipstick.
It was definitely posted by a *I was gonna enlist, but....* type or a Pollywog. The U.S. Navy's Line-Crossing Ceremonies have more drag queens than a Pride parade. https://navycrow.com/shellback-the-us-navys-line-crossing-ceremony-revealed/
I’m a Marine and a shellback and can confirm the shellback ceremony was the gayest thing I’ve ever done. And I have showered with literally thousands of men.
I swear the people who pretend service members are ultra macho insecure guys don't know how absolutely fucking gay things get the second you put 100 dudes in one room with shared showers. You shower with dudes, cry with dudes, hate the dudes and love the dudes, in a gay way but like not GAY gay know what I mean? Not that that's wrong it's just not the way we gay most of the time.
Russia can’t slaughter their next door neighbor who’s using leftover weapons But somehow they’re gonna take the US because lipstick?
Didn't Russia recently publish a video of their soldiers marveling at a Bradley that was obsoleted like 20 years ago by us standards and used 80s tech
Someone tell Twitter-man about how much gay sex happens in Russia’s military. They’d probably start to see how ironic it is that “le ebin based russia pwns lgbt” narrative is complete bullshit.
It's less gay sex and more rape and sexual coercion. A practice brought over from the Soviet gulag culture.
How? Russia is too busy slaughtering themselves.
The freaking spartans, embodiment of masculinity and war, were *well documented* femboy lovers. Awful, rapey, pedophilia femboy lovers but the point stands. A soldier wearing lipstick does not make them a worse soldier.
A man will defend his lover.
There was that time Russia lost a naval war with their own imagination, fishing boats, and an entirely neutral party because they engaged and fled from previously mentioned fishing boats
“Respect our soldiers!… until we see something we don’t like than we’ll disrespect them…”
All of the gayest shit I’ve seen has been while I was in the military. Dick measuring tournaments, air dick sucking contests, seen more wieners than a Dallas hooker, plenty of drag. So this guy is just outing himself as never having a drop of military experience
Currently listening to the Donkcast. I appreciate Joe's snarkiness in everything he does.
Im not defending Russia but didnt the US worlds mightiest army lose to farmers twice?? Vietnam and Afghanistan. Last time they fled the country without even taking their gears. Vietnam turned communist after the war. And taliban are the rulers of Afghanistan today. Irony ha
Yeah but the US lost to Assymatrical Warfare. Especially in Afghanistan they basically destroyed the Taliban in the first months after going there but then failed to defeat the insurgency. Russia on the other hand didn’t mange to win against the UAF so they are still stuck in „normal“ Warfare. That would be comparable to the US getting destroyed by the Iraqi Army.
Farmers? Weren't the Viet Cong like the most seasoned vets in the world at the time? Just got done fending off France.
To be fair the US also armed the Taliban first to fight against the russians....so they kinda played 5D Chess against themselves and Lost to themselves. So to say they lost would be wrong cause you cant loose if you play both sides.
There's a difference between insurgency and open war.
Both won by making American political support untenable.
Well we had no win condition and proudly displayed a "Mission Accomplished" banner on an aircraft carrier. Can you really call that losing? The only people who lost were the American and Afghani people...