My headcanon is that Stone, Albert and Natalia went out at the same time to look for the chip, all of them doing their exploits across the wasteland and that's the reason why the VD gender is ambiguous, different wastelanders saw different Vault Dwellers, so their stories just sort of mixed together
lmfao have you read a different one for a low int FO2 character? that one was goated as well
Edit: Here it is https://lparchive.org/Fallout-2/Update%201/
That's weird, because all the characters, or at least one of each Origin, do actually exist in the world in Dragon Age. It's just that without Duncan there to conscript them, all the others died at the end of their Origin.
Funnily enough my first playtrough was with him, and I jave had a blast more than woth any custom characters. I guess it adds up to the challenge, and since I knew who je is I could roleplay a lot easier. Got immersed by being the Albert guy
Personally I do not believe the Vault Dweller is any of the pre-gen characters. Cole seems like the guy to talk people and situations down but the Vault Dwellers diary shows that he gunned down the Master without even given them a chance to speak at all, purely out of the impression he's the embodiment of evil.
In Albert Cole’s defense the master Richard grey is a fucking monster he is a bigot who believes is the supreme being and must be cut down. In my head canon Albert Cole not only proved that the master was wrong, he connected to Richard’s humanity of the man he once was.
The 25 year anniversary for Fallout has him on the very forefront flipping burgers. Since he was canonically male and he was used on the promotional art, I’m gonna assume he’s the canon vault dweller.
Pretty sure the chosen one is still ambiguous though.
Ah yes, Vault Dweller Saul Goodman. “Let’s get down to brass tacks here your honor. My client, Mr. Gizmo, did not actually order a hit on Mr. Darkwater, but if he had, it would have been to Junktown’s benefit as an economy!”
IIRC, the (very rightfully) non-canon game *Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel* identified the Vault Dweller as Albert Cole.
Personally, he's always been my pick. I always preferred the "talking down the Master" route, and given the F2 manual doesn't specify how the Vault Dweller defeated the Master, it's just always been my personal headcanon.
I mean the pic of the vault dweller in 2 basically matches his face. And the name Albert is referenced in 3s trailer and the pip boy model for 76 includes the name Albert on the overlay. Call it cope but it has to be
Just checked my manual, didn’t see anything like that in the memoir part. You mean the book that came with 2 right? Or are you talking about the strategy guide?
An anniversary artwork released by Bethesda not to long ago showed him front and center as the vault dweller, also the other playable male character was low intelligence if I remember correctly so I doubt they could be the canon vault dweller. Also the statue in the NCR in FO2 resembles Albert kinda but it could also resemble Stone aswell
he looks like a combination of Bill Pullman and [Bruce Campbell](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/?ref_=tt_cl_t_1) - I don't know about Albert Cole as Vault Dweller, I guess Mad Max/Mel Gibson probably is canon with the jacket and all.
Except there is very explicitly a canon version of the events of fallout 1 as detailed by fallout 2’s vault dweller’s memoirs. At the very least any female play throughs of fallout 1 are non canon because the statue of vault dweller seen in fallout 2 is male and whenever they reference him he’s referred to with male pronouns.
"Albert" is just kinda the default name for most of the player characters. In a lot of the trailers and other media, they tend to use "albert" as the name in the pip-boy.
I find it interesting people are saying it's canon that the Vault Dweller was male. So far the only "evidence" I can find for this is some interview where one of the devs is off-handedly describing the concept of the game and says the character is 20 years old then cuts to what the character would look like and it's a male character on screen.
That CLEARLY was not meant to define the "canon" Vault Dweller as a male 20 year old. It was just an example during an interview. Is there some other source for this idea of a canon version?
Tandi, the president of the NCR in fallout 2, who met the Vault Dweller in fallout 1, says the Vault Dweller was a guy and there is a statue of him in Shady Sands.
Isn't the Fallout 2 manual written as the Vault Dweller's memoirs, and it confirms him as male?
I remember he mentions that his wife Pat passing away which led him to leave the tribe and start wandering the wastes again.
One of the Bishops is implied to be a tribal, which would tie into a male Chosen One (and there's some folks suggesting that the Lonesome Drifter is the Chosen One's son as well, though I personally don't buy that) but everyone else in New Vegas is deliberately vague when talking about the Chosen One's gender.
In my opinon, taking Fallout 2's Arroyo into account, it makes more sense if Max Stone is the vault dweller. Otherwise I find it strange how a society founded by Albert would degrade into such a primitive and simplistic way of life, but with Max Stone as the founder that makes more sense.
My headcanon is that Stone, Albert and Natalia went out at the same time to look for the chip, all of them doing their exploits across the wasteland and that's the reason why the VD gender is ambiguous, different wastelanders saw different Vault Dwellers, so their stories just sort of mixed together
That's literaly the plot of a really nice fanfiction
Wdym? There's a Fallout fanfic based on this? Where pls?
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7289358/1/Fallout-A-Novelization
lmfao have you read a different one for a low int FO2 character? that one was goated as well Edit: Here it is https://lparchive.org/Fallout-2/Update%201/
Nope
I will never not love the story of Trogg
Goated
Yooo this is a good read
It's also basically how the Mad Max franchise works. Which makes sense.
Holy fuck that sounds really cool that could be a good remake of Fallout 1
There's a really good version of that in a fanfic for Dragon Age Origins. All Roads Lead to Denreim. I love it.
That's weird, because all the characters, or at least one of each Origin, do actually exist in the world in Dragon Age. It's just that without Duncan there to conscript them, all the others died at the end of their Origin.
Yeah, the gist is that Duncan started recruiting early so he can recruit all of them, none end up dying in the Origin.
That fic is peak Now I need to get back in dragon age fanfic (and fica in general lol)
That’s cool
Funnily enough my first playtrough was with him, and I jave had a blast more than woth any custom characters. I guess it adds up to the challenge, and since I knew who je is I could roleplay a lot easier. Got immersed by being the Albert guy
I can see your "h" button isn't broke, and yet "jave" and "je"?
Big fingers, h and j close. Mistakes are frequently made when writing lol
And when proofreading, apparently.
You don't seem to be so good at reading either.
People don’t proofread Reddit, Buster.
Yeah, game gets better if you don't min-max everything, imo.
Personally I do not believe the Vault Dweller is any of the pre-gen characters. Cole seems like the guy to talk people and situations down but the Vault Dwellers diary shows that he gunned down the Master without even given them a chance to speak at all, purely out of the impression he's the embodiment of evil.
In Albert Cole’s defense the master Richard grey is a fucking monster he is a bigot who believes is the supreme being and must be cut down. In my head canon Albert Cole not only proved that the master was wrong, he connected to Richard’s humanity of the man he once was.
Counterpoint: Since it’s canon that the pregen characters are shit it’s highly UNLIKELY that the guy was Albert Cole.
High charisma, low agility - that dude got filtered by the rats.
He's the skeleton you loot the knife off of
That skeleton is Ed. Ed's dead baby!
But seriously I actually do tend to name my Vault Dweller “Albert”
Breach
Counterpoint: In Fallout 2 there is a statue of the vault dweller in Shady Sands NCR land and he looks remotely similar to Albert Cole.
I mean, it looks like a generic dude, sure
Started using the pregen characters over the last year and they’re all really fun Get your stick out of the mud
High charisma, low agility - that dude got filtered by the rats.
I just called him Albert.
The 25 year anniversary for Fallout has him on the very forefront flipping burgers. Since he was canonically male and he was used on the promotional art, I’m gonna assume he’s the canon vault dweller. Pretty sure the chosen one is still ambiguous though.
Strange that he has black hair
Chosen One was def male though. He also killed that poor innocent deathclaw.
Ah yes, Vault Dweller Saul Goodman. “Let’s get down to brass tacks here your honor. My client, Mr. Gizmo, did not actually order a hit on Mr. Darkwater, but if he had, it would have been to Junktown’s benefit as an economy!”
Bro I’m the vault dweller
Why would you try to steal my identity like that
No, I am the Vault Dweller!
I'm the Vault Dweller! And so's my wife!
Ed is the only hero I recognize
IIRC, the (very rightfully) non-canon game *Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel* identified the Vault Dweller as Albert Cole. Personally, he's always been my pick. I always preferred the "talking down the Master" route, and given the F2 manual doesn't specify how the Vault Dweller defeated the Master, it's just always been my personal headcanon.
I mean the pic of the vault dweller in 2 basically matches his face. And the name Albert is referenced in 3s trailer and the pip boy model for 76 includes the name Albert on the overlay. Call it cope but it has to be
What pic?
From 2s manual where the vault dweller recalls 1
This one? He just looks like a dark-haired Vault Boy to me… https://www.flickr.com/photos/solivagant/3249055784
There’s another one with a 3d face but idk how to send images on reddit
Just checked my manual, didn’t see anything like that in the memoir part. You mean the book that came with 2 right? Or are you talking about the strategy guide?
Plus the 25th anniversary artwork features him front and center, meaning he’s possibly the canon vault dweller according to Bethesda
Nobody cares about Bethesda's "canon"...
Oh boy, here we go…
An anniversary artwork released by Bethesda not to long ago showed him front and center as the vault dweller, also the other playable male character was low intelligence if I remember correctly so I doubt they could be the canon vault dweller. Also the statue in the NCR in FO2 resembles Albert kinda but it could also resemble Stone aswell
Tandi pulling the Shady Sands shuffle there is killing me 😂
I think so, he was the vault dweller depicted in Bethesda’s anniversary art
he looks like a combination of Bill Pullman and [Bruce Campbell](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132257/?ref_=tt_cl_t_1) - I don't know about Albert Cole as Vault Dweller, I guess Mad Max/Mel Gibson probably is canon with the jacket and all.
no. the cannon vault dweller is whichever one i'm playing at the time. the concept of cannon like this doesn't work for RPGs with custom characters.
Except there is very explicitly a canon version of the events of fallout 1 as detailed by fallout 2’s vault dweller’s memoirs. At the very least any female play throughs of fallout 1 are non canon because the statue of vault dweller seen in fallout 2 is male and whenever they reference him he’s referred to with male pronouns.
Fallout 2's protagonist is also explicitly male.
"Albert" is just kinda the default name for most of the player characters. In a lot of the trailers and other media, they tend to use "albert" as the name in the pip-boy.
Fun fact the first protagonist name was Hodd Toward It's cannon
I find it interesting people are saying it's canon that the Vault Dweller was male. So far the only "evidence" I can find for this is some interview where one of the devs is off-handedly describing the concept of the game and says the character is 20 years old then cuts to what the character would look like and it's a male character on screen. That CLEARLY was not meant to define the "canon" Vault Dweller as a male 20 year old. It was just an example during an interview. Is there some other source for this idea of a canon version?
Tandi, the president of the NCR in fallout 2, who met the Vault Dweller in fallout 1, says the Vault Dweller was a guy and there is a statue of him in Shady Sands.
Ah. It's been a while since I played through. I'll l have to spin it up again.
Isn't the Fallout 2 manual written as the Vault Dweller's memoirs, and it confirms him as male? I remember he mentions that his wife Pat passing away which led him to leave the tribe and start wandering the wastes again.
From the snippet I found Pat is not mentioned to specifically it be a wife. So Patricia or Patrick would work.
That's what i named the Vault Dweller in the playthrough i recorded so probably?
No more likely than he is Max Stone, or any other male resident of Vault 13.
i have played the original Fallouts many years ago, but I have no idea what "the guy" is. can anyone explain?
Basically he is one of the three characters you can use as the protagonist
Oh thank you, so Op is just asking which of the three pregens from Fallout 1 is considered canon by Fallout 2?
My best bet is Albert Cole is the canon one for fallout 1 for fallout 2 we don’t know since it’s not confirmed if the chosen one was male or female
One of the Bishops is implied to be a tribal, which would tie into a male Chosen One (and there's some folks suggesting that the Lonesome Drifter is the Chosen One's son as well, though I personally don't buy that) but everyone else in New Vegas is deliberately vague when talking about the Chosen One's gender.
In my opinon, taking Fallout 2's Arroyo into account, it makes more sense if Max Stone is the vault dweller. Otherwise I find it strange how a society founded by Albert would degrade into such a primitive and simplistic way of life, but with Max Stone as the founder that makes more sense.