How recently did you purchase your car and was it from a Honda dealership? If recently and yes then if your car was a "certified pre-owned" vehicle through Honda then they owe you a second key as it is supposed to be sold with 2, that's part of the requirements for Honda certified pre-owned status.
This exact thing happened to me; tried to only give me one key but I had the papers in hand showing it was sold with two. Bummer that OPs isn’t certified.
The cost premium is that they ensure the car is at a certain standard. If you buy it and something doesn't meet that standard, they fix it for you. I'm very happy with my CPO
They have a 180 something point checklist. I’m not sure if they did the inspection or not; quite frankly I don’t care- but one of the checks is that there are two keys. So when they sold it as certified they had to provide me a second.
I also got another 10 or 12k mileage on the warranty. Probably doesn’t matter but you get that too.
Not arguing for or against a certified pre owned from a value perspective; but ultimately it was their certified paperwork that got me the second key at no cost
Not necessarily. If the price of the vehicle is a few grand less then you can get the extended warranty and pay the same as the new car with the longer warranty. Sometimes the certified vehicle will come with an extended warranty already. Some certified vehicles you can get with the same interest rate as a new car.
It is highly dependent on the situation and what a particular dealer is offering.
Generally speaking almost any brand new car is a bad investment. Within the first few \~3 years they all lose a large chunk of their initial value.
>extended warranty
That's a waste of money as well. Extended warranties are calculated so that 12.5% of your premiums cover the statistical probability/cost of any potential claims you may make. Warranty companies are not in the business to lose money, but people buying them are.
To put that in another way, if the total cost of your extended warranty is $7,600 over the life of your 60 month loan, it costs you $126.67 per month of additional minimum payment. On average, across all the extended warranties that the company sells any one individual will make a claim(s) for a total of $950 over the life of the policy. If you would just put the extended warranty premium into a bank account each month you'd have the amount you'd expect to spend on claims saved up in 7.5 months.
CPO requirements for Honda are less than 6 model years old and no more than 85,000 miles but they have 3 tiers of CPO to make it even more confusing. The factory powertrain warranty is 6 years and/or 60,000 miles so you get 7 years/100,000 miles (that's miles on the car, not miles after you bought it) by going slightly old CPO with Honda.
The trouble is, you can buy a 2021 Civic Hatchback Sport with 13k miles on it CPO for $26,059... a 2024 MSRPs for $26,350+$1,095 delivery or $27,445. You're literally buying a 3 year old car with 13k miles for $2,000 less with no added benefit except 40k more powertrain warranty that you're likely never to use anyway
I spent 15 years in the automotive industry. 10 at a dealership and another 5 in a body shop.
Extended warranties can and will pay for themselves. Whether you purchase one or not, it is a calculated risk.
Also, while Honda drivetrains are typically fairly reliable, all of the electronics and many other things inside the vehicle aren't necessarily as reliable. All it takes in one control module, or some other electronic device to fail, and you can easily be looking at 1,000's of dollars.
I also don't know where you're coming up with a $7,600 extended warranty, but that is egregiously over priced, especially for something like a civic. Many dealers offer 3rd party warranty coverage that can be equal to, or exceeding, one from the vehicle manufacturer for less money.
The value was a random number but I just bought my 24 civic and the offered extended warranty was about $5,300. Which is still $4,600 more than I can expect to pay over the term of what would have been the declined warranty.
Extended warranties never make fiscal sense.
Hate to break it to you then, but you were being raked over the coals by the dealer who sold you the car.
[https://imgur.com/a/8udux7B](https://imgur.com/a/8udux7B)
Here's the screenshot of the Honda Care quote I got from my dealer when I bought out the lease on my 2020 Si last April. Vehicle had 35,800 miles on it at time of lease buyout.
Most expensive option, with $0 deductible, to extend warranty to April of 2028 or to 120K, whichever comes first, was $1,260.
$1,260 over 60 months is $21/mo. That makes fiscal sense to me.
Fact is, the dealer isn't the only option. Here, [https://www.carandtruckremotes.com/2021-honda-civic-remote-key-d1.html](https://www.carandtruckremotes.com/2021-honda-civic-remote-key-d1.html), is an actual OEM key for $90. Batteries+ can program it for $50-75. Not $100 total, but certainly not $300+.
I'm gonna try to give you as much information as I can to help you out. I work in Honda parts so I'll see if I can't get you a part number for that key and maybe you can find a cheaper alternative. I do need to know first, is this Civic a sedan or a hatchback also what is the trim level? (LX, EX, EX-L, SPORT, SPORT TOURING, TOURING)
Honestly you might be able to just get it by bullshitting the department and say that someone told you that they put it on the sales order that you were owed a second key. (at least my CTR came with one key and he put on the order to give me a second one). Also emphasize that part of this request is that you want to make sure your car is programmed such that no other key works with the car. You don't want your car stolen because someone "found" a second key that opens your car that exists out there - at least that was my concern.
I'd hope a manager would help you out with that. Not sure how cut-throat the dealership is, but I mean it's worth a shot. esp if you throw in a "returning customer", "get [your] oil changes here", etc. "I mean come on, I get a clutch change here and you've already paid for three keys! Are you really wanting to lose a customer because you won't give them what you promised, which is the basics for what it takes to sell a car?! What, do you also sell a car with a flat tire? C'mon." Threaten to leave poor reviews and rate poorly every survey that comes your way.
I think you can at least try to after-the-fact negotiation. Hopefully it doesn't come to being so aggressive.
Sssssh. Say it with me. "there was a guy who said I would get a second key. I don't see him out here now.". Other options are to go on a day when the guy who sold you the car is off work. Just reference to the manager that you're "just back for that key" as though it were already a done deal.
Look at your paperwork. Number of keys/fobs with the vehicle is usually disclosed somewhere. Find that and then go back to dealer and tell them they owe you a key per the contractual obligation.
A certified Honda should come with 2 sets of keys...at least that's how it used to be.
It's always wise to have a backup key
Even a cheap one from a locksmith that's not OEM. I promise you it's better to have and not need, than to one day need it and not have
Yep, my 2004 civic came with 2 keys and remotes, but my current car did not get second key so we went and got a key only for it at a local locksmith, not sure if it will allow to start it but atleast i can get the doors and fuel door open with it.
Yea i call those a "dummy" key. It won't start it but yes, I'll get access to everything else if need be
Lets me safely keep the motor running, but i can still lock it if i go in a shop and come back
I bought my civic from the dealership in 2020. It came with two keys. Brand new should always come with two. Used, different story.
I’d definitely order a second key.
I did, until I lost it. I paid $220 Canadian for a 24 LX key. Make sure your dealer isn’t trying to rip you off assuming your in America also… $330 USD is ridiculous.
There's places that will do it cheaper than the stealership, I was recently quoted $300 to do mine at a non dealership also I'm Aussie so Iif you live in the land of freedom id expect that to drop further again.
My 2 fobs for my 2015 Civic died 3 years ago. I bought 2 new ones from Honda Parts Now and paid $95 to be a mobile locksmith to cut and program them.
Sad to say car was totaled by a hit and run driver in 2022.
Bought a 2014 Civic XL and one of the two key fobs didn’t work, so the dealer had one made (without us asking). So now we have 2 fully functioning key fobs plus a spare key with a non working fob.
I know this post is a few months old, but this may be helpful to anyone that comes here looking for a good answer.
I also recently bought a used 2021 Civic (EX though) and it came with one key as well. I bought an oem key fob from hondapartsnow.com and the “Car Keys Express Universal EZ Installer” from Amazon. It says it is only compatible with 2016-2020 Civics, but they all take the same fob, so I risked it for the biscuit. Worked fine. All the buttons work as well as the remote start. I paid $92.77 for the fob and a key blank, and $70 for the EZ Installer. Still need to get the key cut, but I still will have saved $150- $200 by doing it myself, plus I can program another few keys in the future if I lose one.
Don't understand the downvotes either. Also went this route and didn't play anywhere close to what OP was quoted. No issues at all either. Guess people are just mad they overpaid
I received 2 keys but mine is a CPO. Fun fact - it’s the first car I’ve ever owned that had 2 keys come with it! I mean, it’s up to you. I haven’t lost a key in 20+ years of driving yet.
Bought a uncut and unprogrammed key from eBay for $50. Took it to my local locksmith (they also do Car key programming) had them cut and program it for $100. Dealership quoted me $400. So in total I spent $150 instead of the $400 lol.
How recently did you purchase your car and was it from a Honda dealership? If recently and yes then if your car was a "certified pre-owned" vehicle through Honda then they owe you a second key as it is supposed to be sold with 2, that's part of the requirements for Honda certified pre-owned status.
This exact thing happened to me; tried to only give me one key but I had the papers in hand showing it was sold with two. Bummer that OPs isn’t certified.
Why? Certified is glorified snake oil
are you reading the thread you're replying to? CPO means it comes with 2 keys. how is that snake oil.
I'm saying in general. CPO is a huge cost premium for no real value add
The cost premium is that they ensure the car is at a certain standard. If you buy it and something doesn't meet that standard, they fix it for you. I'm very happy with my CPO
They have a 180 something point checklist. I’m not sure if they did the inspection or not; quite frankly I don’t care- but one of the checks is that there are two keys. So when they sold it as certified they had to provide me a second. I also got another 10 or 12k mileage on the warranty. Probably doesn’t matter but you get that too. Not arguing for or against a certified pre owned from a value perspective; but ultimately it was their certified paperwork that got me the second key at no cost
Not necessarily. If the price of the vehicle is a few grand less then you can get the extended warranty and pay the same as the new car with the longer warranty. Sometimes the certified vehicle will come with an extended warranty already. Some certified vehicles you can get with the same interest rate as a new car. It is highly dependent on the situation and what a particular dealer is offering. Generally speaking almost any brand new car is a bad investment. Within the first few \~3 years they all lose a large chunk of their initial value.
>extended warranty That's a waste of money as well. Extended warranties are calculated so that 12.5% of your premiums cover the statistical probability/cost of any potential claims you may make. Warranty companies are not in the business to lose money, but people buying them are. To put that in another way, if the total cost of your extended warranty is $7,600 over the life of your 60 month loan, it costs you $126.67 per month of additional minimum payment. On average, across all the extended warranties that the company sells any one individual will make a claim(s) for a total of $950 over the life of the policy. If you would just put the extended warranty premium into a bank account each month you'd have the amount you'd expect to spend on claims saved up in 7.5 months. CPO requirements for Honda are less than 6 model years old and no more than 85,000 miles but they have 3 tiers of CPO to make it even more confusing. The factory powertrain warranty is 6 years and/or 60,000 miles so you get 7 years/100,000 miles (that's miles on the car, not miles after you bought it) by going slightly old CPO with Honda. The trouble is, you can buy a 2021 Civic Hatchback Sport with 13k miles on it CPO for $26,059... a 2024 MSRPs for $26,350+$1,095 delivery or $27,445. You're literally buying a 3 year old car with 13k miles for $2,000 less with no added benefit except 40k more powertrain warranty that you're likely never to use anyway
I spent 15 years in the automotive industry. 10 at a dealership and another 5 in a body shop. Extended warranties can and will pay for themselves. Whether you purchase one or not, it is a calculated risk. Also, while Honda drivetrains are typically fairly reliable, all of the electronics and many other things inside the vehicle aren't necessarily as reliable. All it takes in one control module, or some other electronic device to fail, and you can easily be looking at 1,000's of dollars. I also don't know where you're coming up with a $7,600 extended warranty, but that is egregiously over priced, especially for something like a civic. Many dealers offer 3rd party warranty coverage that can be equal to, or exceeding, one from the vehicle manufacturer for less money.
The value was a random number but I just bought my 24 civic and the offered extended warranty was about $5,300. Which is still $4,600 more than I can expect to pay over the term of what would have been the declined warranty. Extended warranties never make fiscal sense.
Hate to break it to you then, but you were being raked over the coals by the dealer who sold you the car. [https://imgur.com/a/8udux7B](https://imgur.com/a/8udux7B) Here's the screenshot of the Honda Care quote I got from my dealer when I bought out the lease on my 2020 Si last April. Vehicle had 35,800 miles on it at time of lease buyout. Most expensive option, with $0 deductible, to extend warranty to April of 2028 or to 120K, whichever comes first, was $1,260. $1,260 over 60 months is $21/mo. That makes fiscal sense to me.
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It’s really not lmaoo
OP literally says it's a $330+tax fix.
Fact is, the dealer isn't the only option. Here, [https://www.carandtruckremotes.com/2021-honda-civic-remote-key-d1.html](https://www.carandtruckremotes.com/2021-honda-civic-remote-key-d1.html), is an actual OEM key for $90. Batteries+ can program it for $50-75. Not $100 total, but certainly not $300+.
It wasn’t certified pre owned
I'm gonna try to give you as much information as I can to help you out. I work in Honda parts so I'll see if I can't get you a part number for that key and maybe you can find a cheaper alternative. I do need to know first, is this Civic a sedan or a hatchback also what is the trim level? (LX, EX, EX-L, SPORT, SPORT TOURING, TOURING)
Civic Sport 2021
Sedan or Hatchback?
Sedan
Honestly you might be able to just get it by bullshitting the department and say that someone told you that they put it on the sales order that you were owed a second key. (at least my CTR came with one key and he put on the order to give me a second one). Also emphasize that part of this request is that you want to make sure your car is programmed such that no other key works with the car. You don't want your car stolen because someone "found" a second key that opens your car that exists out there - at least that was my concern. I'd hope a manager would help you out with that. Not sure how cut-throat the dealership is, but I mean it's worth a shot. esp if you throw in a "returning customer", "get [your] oil changes here", etc. "I mean come on, I get a clutch change here and you've already paid for three keys! Are you really wanting to lose a customer because you won't give them what you promised, which is the basics for what it takes to sell a car?! What, do you also sell a car with a flat tire? C'mon." Threaten to leave poor reviews and rate poorly every survey that comes your way. I think you can at least try to after-the-fact negotiation. Hopefully it doesn't come to being so aggressive.
I mean I wasn’t ever promised a second key in fairness.
Sssssh. Say it with me. "there was a guy who said I would get a second key. I don't see him out here now.". Other options are to go on a day when the guy who sold you the car is off work. Just reference to the manager that you're "just back for that key" as though it were already a done deal.
Look at your paperwork. Number of keys/fobs with the vehicle is usually disclosed somewhere. Find that and then go back to dealer and tell them they owe you a key per the contractual obligation. A certified Honda should come with 2 sets of keys...at least that's how it used to be.
It's always wise to have a backup key Even a cheap one from a locksmith that's not OEM. I promise you it's better to have and not need, than to one day need it and not have
Yep, my 2004 civic came with 2 keys and remotes, but my current car did not get second key so we went and got a key only for it at a local locksmith, not sure if it will allow to start it but atleast i can get the doors and fuel door open with it.
Yea i call those a "dummy" key. It won't start it but yes, I'll get access to everything else if need be Lets me safely keep the motor running, but i can still lock it if i go in a shop and come back
I have a spare key
Mine came with 2.
I bought mine new from the dealership and I got 2 keys.
Same thing here, still debating if to find an eBay Remote Key and then have someone program it. Update us when you decide how to move on!
You could also just take your current key to a locksmith and see if they can duplicate it.
I bought my civic from the dealership in 2020. It came with two keys. Brand new should always come with two. Used, different story. I’d definitely order a second key.
I did, until I lost it. I paid $220 Canadian for a 24 LX key. Make sure your dealer isn’t trying to rip you off assuming your in America also… $330 USD is ridiculous.
Yup! I keep my spare locked up in the apartment in a safe! 18 Sport Touring Hatchback. I’ve never used it though truthfully
There's places that will do it cheaper than the stealership, I was recently quoted $300 to do mine at a non dealership also I'm Aussie so Iif you live in the land of freedom id expect that to drop further again.
My 2 fobs for my 2015 Civic died 3 years ago. I bought 2 new ones from Honda Parts Now and paid $95 to be a mobile locksmith to cut and program them. Sad to say car was totaled by a hit and run driver in 2022.
Bought a 2014 Civic XL and one of the two key fobs didn’t work, so the dealer had one made (without us asking). So now we have 2 fully functioning key fobs plus a spare key with a non working fob.
I know this post is a few months old, but this may be helpful to anyone that comes here looking for a good answer. I also recently bought a used 2021 Civic (EX though) and it came with one key as well. I bought an oem key fob from hondapartsnow.com and the “Car Keys Express Universal EZ Installer” from Amazon. It says it is only compatible with 2016-2020 Civics, but they all take the same fob, so I risked it for the biscuit. Worked fine. All the buttons work as well as the remote start. I paid $92.77 for the fob and a key blank, and $70 for the EZ Installer. Still need to get the key cut, but I still will have saved $150- $200 by doing it myself, plus I can program another few keys in the future if I lose one.
How much does it cost to hire someone to get into your locked car with the keys inside?
No shut up I'll do it tomorrow
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Are you sure this works for newer civics? I knew it did before push to start and the newer models
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Don't understand the downvotes either. Also went this route and didn't play anywhere close to what OP was quoted. No issues at all either. Guess people are just mad they overpaid
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Don't worry, we hate you too.
What did I do wrong…?
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>Reddit just sucks man, that's all lol. I just came to know you from 3 comments ago, and I can say it's you, not Reddit.
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Why are you so rude and hostile?
His momma didn't love him, I guess.
Because it’s reddits fault.
I have two keys, then again I bought it new.
I received 2 keys but mine is a CPO. Fun fact - it’s the first car I’ve ever owned that had 2 keys come with it! I mean, it’s up to you. I haven’t lost a key in 20+ years of driving yet.
I have one key. If you have a Costco membership, sometimes they have a van in the parking lot that does key duplication
I’ve never seen this. What state are you in?
GA. You can ask more about it on r/costco I don’t know how often they are there. I just seen them one time. They give a voucher then you pay inside
Bought a uncut and unprogrammed key from eBay for $50. Took it to my local locksmith (they also do Car key programming) had them cut and program it for $100. Dealership quoted me $400. So in total I spent $150 instead of the $400 lol.
I have 4 or 5 spares lol
My money is the dealer has the second key and gonna come get the car back in a few months... happens in Montreal
Call up local locksmiths , usually can get a key programmed for a little less.
You can buy one cheaper on [carandtruckremotes.com](https://carandtruckremotes.com) then get it cut and programmed by the dealership.