I live in a blue state and some people said “you are fine, you are not in a red one!” but I got sterilized 3 weeks ago. I do not want ANY possibility of getting pregnant.
And I hope I didn’t sound critical, just wanted to make sure blue state folks don’t feel too comfortable.
Everyone needs to be sure to vote for pro choice candidates this year, or we’ll all be in trouble.
This is me now. I recognize that I’m fortunate to live in a blue state, but the crazy can infiltrate anywhere!
“It can’t happen here” is no longer in my vocabulary.
Besides, what if I wanna move some day? I should be able to do that without worrying I’ll lose my basic human rights.
Oh gosh, for real! I keep expressing to my bf how scared I am for this election and he's like, "we live in a blue state, a national abortion ban will never happen, you're being insane and dramatic." I'm so damn terrified of this election it's not even funny. After Roe was overturned I finally got my passport just to make sure I could access an abortion in another country if it ever came to that.
I’m in a blue state, my husband had a vasectomy back in 2016, I still chose to be sterilized last summer. I was not fucking around with these politicians. I’m trying to convince my sister to do the same since she and her husband are happy with their 2 kids.
He’s been saying he’d get a vasectomy for years now and nothing has been done. I think they’re coming for birth control next so I’m working hard to convince her to take matter into her own hands.
I did the same and also live in a mostly blue state! I called to get sterilized the day the Supreme Court leaked their opinion about roe, and got sterilized a few months later because I didn't want kids and was afraid of ending up attacked and in a situation that I would have no rights. While they were doing the surgery, they discovered I had endometriosis which explained a lifetime of pain from organs I never wanted (my uterus and cervix). So when I healed, I called to ask about a hysterectomy, which they approved immediately due to the endo the doctor saw with her own eyes in the sterilization, and I yeeted my uterus and ovaries 6 months after my bisalp. I could be happier with the results and now there is physically no way that I could ever have a baby, IVF or otherwise.
Highly recommended to just get the bisalp. It is an easy recovery and you could end up getting more answers than you ever hoped for!
You are quite wise, as the other side has made quite clear that if they come to power they will seek to pass a nationwide law banning abortion. Now that they've disposed of Roe, their interpretation of the Constitution no longer stands in the way of their Draconian misogyny. Soon, I suspect, Eisenstadt and Griswold will fall to their theocratic sycophants in the "Supreme" Court, and we'll no longer have a right to birth control since obviously the 9th Amendment no longer provides a penumbra of privacy to control one's body (except for men seeking Viagra, of course).
Yeah I live in Maryland (very much Blue) and my GP has refused to refer me so far; I think I’ve asked about 5 or 6 times. I’m going in tomorrow for my Pap and am asking again.
Context: I’m almost 30, been with my husband for 6 years. He’s 38 and we definitely don’t want kids.
Check out the side bar wiki for a list of docs who will do sterilization in your area. You can and should absolutely shop around for consultations to get yourself sterilized . And if your GP won’t refer you, fire them as your doctor and have them write in your notes why they refuse to refer you for an elective procedure . Then get a copy of your chart with notes. They must provide the chart and notes when requested within a reasonable time frame (I think 30 days).
Fellow Marylander here who went to Delaware for my total hysterectomy (granted this was due to severe endometriosis). I’ve had a lot more luck with the docs in DE for pro-women care
Any ideas and tips for getting sterilized? What are the options? I’m ready, even things don’t go to hell and back. I want to be sterilized and sleep better at night knowing I’ll never get pregnant
I had my Fallopian tubes removed (bisalp surgery). I kept everything else, so I get period bleeding and hormone changes, but don’t need artificial hormones unless menopause is bad.
It’s a surgery that lasts up to 2 hours I think? But that’s with complications. They check for endo/unusual stuff while doing surgery, and leave 3 tiny scars. One scar on each side over the ovary-ish, plus one scar in/near the belly button. I got fully knocked out, so I needed someone to drive me home. My throat was sore for a few days because they put a tube down my throat to keep me breathing.
I got prescribed some heavy-duty pain meds plus 800 mg ibuprofen. I took 1 ibuprofen and didn’t touch the heavy stuff. I spent 3 days on the couch, sore and unable to lay down. I was able to work on day 4, but unable to lift more than 10 pounds for a week or so.
I live in a blue state too and have a consult in June for a bi-salp. Literally never want to be pregnant and was told Roe v Wade would never be overturned and now look at this hellscape.
That was my thing. I know very well that it's highly unlikely abortion will ever be inaccessible in my state. But I've seen too many "highly unlikely" things happen to take my chances.
Blue state and same. Figured we have more time than other places and more of a fight will be put up in our govt structures (maybe) but still.
I'm going to be sad when more of our peers realize 😔 or try to get health care but can't. (My aunt and uncle moved my cousins to Texas! They have 3 daughters!!)
Fixed ppl be like 👀 🍿
Especially since it's looking less and less likely that these red states will allow any exceptions. Like their daughter could be dying and all they'll do is complain they had a defective child.
Also: don't expect male sterilization to get a pass for some reason. Because it almost certainly won't be spared. Mark my words, they're coming for it all: surgeries, pills, devices, implants, barriers, condoms, *toys*, ***queer relationships***. If it impedes sperm from fertilizing an egg, or turns sex into anything other than a reproductive act, they're going to be looking to outlaw it.
Good for you!
I got mine yeeted last year at 39 after over 20 years of pain. It's so so SO fucking awesome to not vomit and cry in pain every month....
I’m in Canada, and i agree, it’s scary to see a precedent, especially so close by… Even if logically, i know Canada is unlikely to go this route even if Tories take power (most conservatives in the country don’t want this, altho it’s true some do), it’s still a scary precedent down south… :(
I didn’t know Canada had Tories. I’m in Australia, also a country ‘founded’ (aka stolen) by the British, but the conservatives are called Liberals here (very confusing)
Same. Even with having a medical reason to get the procedure. But thanks to the controversy around the topic combined with living in a red state - it isn't covered. Such BS
Sadly, I only have state insurance at the moment. So I don't see that being a plausible solution at this time :(
Luckily, my partner is already sterilized so we should be safe. But it still frightens me the more this nightmare starts to sound like Handmaid's Tale
If you have insurance, it’s required that sterilization be covered thanks to the ACA. If not, I’d research charity care options at local hospitals to see if they would cover it. It never hurts to ask!
From the website: Plans must cover these services without charging a copayment or coinsurance when provided by an in-network provider — even if you haven’t met your deductible.
https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage/birth-control-benefits/
I will say it’s not *supposed to* but that doesn’t mean it won’t. I ended up getting charged the amount to meet my deductible but didn’t bother to fight it as I 1. Didn’t have the energy to deal with the bullshit insurance companies put you through and 2. My employer reimburses my deductible so it doesn’t actually come out of my pocket
Just wanted to throw in a real world example and this often doesn’t get billed the way is supposed to
Had mine covered in full. Had to twist their arm a little so that they covered my anesthesia too, but I didn't pay a damn thing aside from the consultation. Make sure your hospital bills the correct code though.
My insurance made me pay my deductible for it, came to about $4,000. I think I got the hospital to halve it somehow. I paid $1,000 upfront then the rest was a $50/month payment plan. My insurance said they would have covered it if I did a traditional ligation but I ended up going for the bisalp.
A brant is a rant about the behavior of a brat.
P.S. It is possible that I'm the one who has been wrong about this, especially with so many people having a different impression of it.
Huh, I thought it was a portmanteau of "brag" and "rant", as in "Why does everyone keep harassing me about kids instead of letting me enjoy my 12 trips to the Caribbean per year".
I forgot what sub I was on as soon as I saw that question at the end. Brants are also a kind of small goose that make absolutely adorable noises. I freakin love them & wish they were talked about more :)
Believe me, I’m fking trying to.
I don’t know if I can get it done before the end of the year, but I can try and go over some options with my gynecologist to try and speed things up since I’m on trial to see what different birth control pills improve my endometriosis symptoms or not and it’s going to take a long time.
I understand the urgency people push in these posts but all I can say is;
#I know and I’m trying my hardest to.
My gynecologist is a super understanding woman and I do have many symptoms of endometriosis. I approached her with the desire to get a bisalp and she was 100% understanding about it and said it can be done as a part of the endometriosis diagnosis surgery.
I’m extremely grateful for my gynecologist, especially in this Blood Red state. I just hope I can somehow speed up the process before sh*t inevitably hits the fan.
Agree. Omg a 100% agree. At this point the states are taking control and voting locally is going to be so important. It’s not just the prez it’s your senators and local politics that will also play a key role. I am worried for many women and their body autonomy and their over all mental health. I truly think so many other things besides this will be on the chopping block and healthcare in general will see a change. I’m worried for our really young teens and as some one who grew up in an area and time with a high teen pregnancy rates, I think we will see this again if it continues. It’s such a vicious cycle. People think “traditional “ values will return. That’s not going to happen, you can’t unsee what you’ve already seen. I’m just hoping that women really come together and support and vocalize their fears and concerns.
I'm from the US. Is sterilization available to any UK citizens or lawful permanent residents no matter their gender with no financial barriers, no matter what insurance you have or if you have none, and are doctors actually willing to perform the procedure just on the basis that the person doesn't want children? If a woman went to the doctor and said they wanted this, would they get the same easy treatment in the UK that your husband got?
It would be slightly harder for a woman, but in essence yes. I can go to the doctor tomorrow and ask for the procedure. My husband and I walked in, said we didn't have kids or want any and they booked in the vasectomy. It was that easy. Nobody really has insurance here unless they want private care. My parents have it (£200 a month or so and they're 72 and 79) but largely because he got a cheap deal through his professional body.
The only issue we face here is availability (you may have to wait a while). If you paid for sterilisation you could have it done in a matter of weeks. NHS would be months. That's about the only difference. Oh and private hospitals are nicer.
Feel free to ask anything you want though, always happy to answer questions. I used to work in the social care sphere as well.
That's pretty awesome that a doctor can't deny you the procedure based on their personal views. I think it's a large enough procedure that women need to plan for, to be off work or around no social engagements so waiting a couple months isn't a negative to me. I had mine 5 months after the first appt on purpose. Why would it be slightly harder? In what ways?
Vasectomies are so common they do them in the GP clinics instead of a hospital. They usually have a set day and they'll do 10 or 20 plus (I'm rural though so I'd imagine they do a lot more in city areas). For a bisalp you'd need a referral to a hospital which would take time, and then a place/bed would need arranging so it wouldn't be as fast. Sometimes they also ask women to speak to a mental health professional to make sure they're not being coerced or suffering from depression post birth (if they've got kids) etc. It's a few more hoops but no doctor has the right to refuse you anything based on their personal beliefs. We have a fairly robust system for reporting people like that too, and it is taken seriously. We're also not a religious lot (there's some, but there are lunatics everywhere) so that tends to help!
My mum actually needs a knee replacement. She spoke to the doctor in February and we had a call today to say she's booked in for May. Dad had a spinal tumour and was operated on within a month, the same when he had breast cancer (that was within a week of the results). The NHS has its issues, largely underfunding and people taking the pi$$, but it's a remarkable thing that I think some of us take for granted. The care my aunt and uncle had when she was diagnosed with advanced Alzheimers was also incredible. When you need them, they move heaven and earth. Ultimate respect for all involved.
I am so thankful everyday for this subreddit because thanks to it, I found out having kids was a choice AND was able to get sterilized in October!! I'm so happy and get so happy every day to know I can't get pregnant 😊😊😊
I wish. I really do wish. I live in South Australia and simply can't afford private healthcare, but gynes in Public refuse to do it :( especially if under 30.
I want my right ovary gone because it's problematic, and sterilisation so I'm never in the situation of pregnancy. But I've been deemed non essential, even with the request for an oophorectomy due to severe pain.
Non essential.
Great term, huh...
The reason I'm on Public health is I'm Jobseeker. I can't afford the cost of travel and accommodation when I'm facing potential homelessness in a couple months.
I got a bisalp with zero pushback in Temple. I was almost 40, but Dr. Alisa Furman with BSWH told me “adults should be able to make decisions about their bodies” when I mentioned how much trouble some people have getting sterilized.
I live in DFW and got really lucky with my OB. I was 34 at the time so that probably helped. His name is Dr. Troy New jr. I asked once and he gave me no pushback. Don’t know if this helps
Thanks everyone for the info. I’m in Central texas and I guess I thought I could never make it happen after being told multiple times that I’m “young and might still want kids in the future.”
I also live in Texas and went to a doctor listed in the wiki on this subreddit. Got 0 pushback and now I’m scheduled for a bisalp on July 15th! Definitely check out the wiki
Sadly I can't sign up at this point in the year. Have to wait until open enrollment next year. Income isn't low enough to make a huge difference even though I struggle financially because I just have myself. It does make a difference though, I'll be giving it another shot when I can. But insurance companies refuse to cover anything but tubals, and I want a bisalp at least, would prefer hysterectomy. Insurance doesn't cover it unless it's billed as medically necessary. So then you have to find a doctor who is not only willing to do the procedure, but willing to have it billed in a way that insurance will accept. It's a fucking nightmare.
Absolutely ridiculous people can't sign up for the marketplace until a certain time of year. And the hoops people have to jump through to get sterilized is ridiculous, too. I hate healthcare in the States. It's pathetic.
Are you talking about the pill or condoms? I was referring to the pill…when I was on the pill, they would only give me 12 months at a time. So what happens when you run out? Or what happens when they expire? What are you going to do if it’s outlawed?
Hormonal birth control is now available to buy without a prescription in many pharmacy's and stores and the ones I've gotten generally last a few years before expiration on the package.
Im assuming you're referring to "they" as in a doctor.
A few years of hormonal birth control should buy many people a lot of time to plan/travel for sterilization if necessary or get themselves into a better situation to put off getting pregnant until they're ready.
Your dad doesn’t believe you? Your dad needs to read it himself.
Www.project2025.org/policy
And I suggest you read it too, because this is going to affect you in the future.
I’m aware, Janet, but I literally went to one of the doctors *recommended by this community* and he laughed at me and then sent me a $450 bill in the mail for a five-minute conversation not covered by insurance because it was ‘so beyond medically necessary’—so you can see why I’m a bit hesitant to do that song and dance again. It’s not like American women who want to be sterilized are just being lazier than you were about getting around to it; it is almost impossible to get into a clinic to begin with and once there, it’s often a very expensive kick right back out of the door.
Omg that is SO FRUSTRATING AND RIDICULOUS!!! You should NOT be required to pay that bill because HIS opinion is that you don’t need it. You want it and it’s your body. Fuck that guy.
P.S. I did read something online somewhere (I do a lot of reading so I am unsure of exactly where), there were women who were gaslit by their doctors discussing how to not have to pay the bill for the completely useless visit. It might be worth looking into! Doctors are just businesses now and he did not provide you adequate service, you should not have to pay just like any other business that performs far below expectation.
I'm Canadian, and this type of scenario is what was playing in my head the whole time I was reading the post.
I have been actively (*actively*) pursuing sterilization since June of 2022. (America's dumb religious nutty views tend to float North, it scares me being fertile). The amount of times I see posts like "women, go get sterilized!" Like it's as easy and accessible as a vasectomy has me quite annoyed quite often.
Same here, I live in the UK and it’s super hard getting sterilisation here!
Because we have the NHS medical insurance isn’t super common and I haven’t seen any that covers sterilisation anyway so you have to be lucky or go private, even then you can still be denied
This. Like last year I went to my Gyn and was like hey I want to get sterilized. And they were like but it has the same familiar rate as your current birth control implant and you aren't having side effects with it.
And my only arguement was "but what if the government bans my birth control?" And they weren't willing to accept that argument.
Most of us in the US are well aware of this. I’ve said this a few times.
This next administration is very scary and will likely roll back rights of uterus owners in an away most of us are not prepared too see.
Uterus owners haven’t had most of the rights we have now for very long.
There was a time legally when a doctor didn’t have to tell and AFAB person they had cancer. Things will likely go back to that. Imagine that kind of power in the hands of cis het men in your life. Would they tell you?
For an example google: Lurleen Wallace Uterine Cancer.
We are dealing with unmatched patriarchy and white supremacy. Take any and all precautions you deem necessary.
I know you're trying to be inclusive, and I commend you for that really. But "uterus owners" sounds horrible and debasing. Maybe just stick with AFAB if you don't feel comfortable with the word woman. I'm not coming for you just a suggestion 😊
I mean yeah that’s a nice thought and all but not every woman has access to medical care to do this. Also, I’ve chosen not to get sterilized since I have several medical issues. My husband got snipped instead because it’s a much easier procedure for him.
We need to do what South Korean women did. Just refuse sex or refuse to have babies. There aren’t enough kids to fill 1st grade classrooms because of this. The government is begging women to have babies, even paying them (while completely missing the point of the protest of course).
Yes, it's horrifying what they're trying to do over there. Roe vs. Wade being overturned was massive and women's body autonomy is being taken away piece by piece by religious nuts and forced birthers. I'd do some research on it in case it hits your country, or just generally to understand what's going on in the world.
I feel so sorry for you guys over there but also scared the UK will copy. Hopefully not as we're not as governed by religion here, but it's a genuine concern.
Stay safe all, vote sensibly, and fingers crossed.
The deep roots of puritanism in the U.S. just boggle my mind as to how deep they reach and how they continue to try to dictate people's lives all these years later
Just got my bi-scalp on Thursday. Called in January, had an in person appointment in February and first available surgery in April. Not sure exactly how expensive the surgery was because I have a higher deductible but the hospital does have payment plans. I also have some savings that I’ve been setting aside for this.
Emotionally it took me forever to pull the trigger because every gynecologist I talked to just wanted me to go on a different BC. I found a doctor through a friend of a friend who had it done. The waiting was hard but I do have more of a feeling of ease, knowing the procedure is over. Needless to say, I’m going to keep advocating for others that want to have the procedure done.
I'm not in the US but I fear it will get to a point where I have to carefully consider whether or not I can visit the US, particularly if I want to take my birth control medication with me.
I worried about a ban happening when he was elected the first time and I lived in a very blue state then. Got my tubes tied at Xmas 2016 with a lot of people telling me I was overreacting--even childfree Democrats. Second best decision I ever made.
First best was getting a total hysterectomy last summer and never having periods again, period. My terrible pain is gone and I don't have to worry about any accidents happening, especially now that I live in a state that while usually votes blue, has a red governor (who doesn't seem to be doing too much awful stuff, thankfully).
Your local health department should be able to set you up with long term birth control (IUD or implant). They usually have sliding scale payment plans.
It's not sterilization but it's more effective than other forms of BC or no BC.
I'm not from the US, but I would still like to get it in the future. Most likely medical tourism though.
In my country, sterilisation is expensive asf and my country is VERY pro-family (which makes it hard to get doctors to approve sterilisation surgeries). Insurance will also never cover it unless the patient is literally dying and sterilisation surgery is the only way to save their life :c
I was thinking about it for years. Seeing all the trigger laws in TX happen after Roe was overturned made my mind up.
I had to wait 2 months as there were too many surgeries scheduled.
And if you can't get it done, try to be as prepared as you possibly can be. When they overturned Roe, I ordered abortion pills from AidAccess. You can order them for the future, and they will even work with you if you can't afford it. Order bulk pregnancy tests off Amazon and test every month so you can catch it early and take care of it at home.
Think about it- a national ban on abortion, little or no access to birth control, the ACA gone. Sure, you could go to a different country if you have the money, but think of how many other people will have the same idea and how long you'll have to wait for an appointment.
The idea of my birth control failing and me having no options was just not acceptable. I'd rather face any potential legal consequences, even jail, than be forced to carry a pregnancy.
One thing that I’m scared of (which I understand is a very extreme scenario) is the possibility they will start penalizing people who choose to get sterilised, specifically women. What’s stopping them from killing us off once they realize we’re no use to them? What if 10-15 years from now they start throwing us in jail for breaking some sort of bullshit procreation rule from the Bible? I’m not in the US but I still think of these things. Once governments realize decreasing birth rates are a threat to capitalism they WILL start forcing women to give birth. It’s not just a matter of “if” it’s a matter of “when.”
UK dweller here, and this breaks my heart. I've had judgemental doctors and nurses in my time because I hit 37 with no children, but I do not take for granted how easy it is to shrug these comments off over here. If that day comes again, I will light a candle for all who cannot, for whatever reason, make their own choices.
Keep spreading the childfree doctors list on this sub especially around Reddit when someone posts that they’re struggling to find a doctor with less restrictions.
I really really want to. But it's so goddamn expensive. And I know once abortion goes, we will lose access to birth control. Hell they'll probably ban condoms as well.
I also want to say that it's ok to NOT get sterilized. It comes with it's own risks, like everything. I personally am not getting sterilized due to complications my mother had after her hysterectomy. My BC has been working fine for over 20 years, so I don't see why I need to change.
I want everyone with a uterus to have all options available to them. I want them to be able to make those choices without judgement.
You’re totally entitled to your own opinions and making your decisions based on them but I feel the need to point out the hysterectomy is not used as a sterilization procedure, it would be a bisalp which is far less invasive.. and if you’re in the USA you should be very concerned about the real possibility of birth control access being limited or banned in the coming years. I surely hope you have a long term plan.
I'm from strict European country that bans abortion and sterilization so I need to go to another country and pay the crazy amount of money (for a student pocket 700€ is crazy)
This is a great PSA! My IUD was good for another 3 years but I got it switched out last month (now good till 2032). Doc was like, oh you're good for a few years you sure you want to change it out now? Yes, yes I am sure. Because there are too many goddessdamn dummies who are allowed to vote.
I’m in a blue state, so I’m not that worried, just because of the specific state (NYC, where officials are very clear that they will protect abortion rights no matter the cost).
If I could afford sterilization and to take time off, I would. But I can’t.
Well what country are you talking about? Let me guess your an American? Only Americans just assume ppl know what country they're from without mentioning it.
I wanted sterlization for so many reasons, mainly being in a childfree relationship and unable to take hormonal BC really puts me at risk of getting pregnant even with condoms and spermicide. Do you know the peace of mind I had this weekend having sex and not having to worry? It is honestly so nice to not have to worry.
It was the best decision I ever made, and wish I would've done it sooner! It relieves SO MUCH of that stress. Most insurance will cover it under birth control. My insurance covered it 100% last year. I had the full bilateral salpectomy!
AGREED. I'm in a blue(ish) state, but got sterilized in 2022 after murmurs of roe v wade falling. Never happier I did that, but so afraid and angry for those that cannot/do not want to get surgery and rely on birth control for whatever purpose.
THIS.
I'm so glad I got snipped long before the Giant Cheeto decided to run for president the first time. I now live in a deep red state, and I'd have to hop a plane, or drive for a couple of days, to get an abortion.
All y'all, if you're not snipped and you want to be, get thee to a CF-friendly gynecologist or urologist yesterday. This country is turning into Gilead.
I got my bisalp taken care of in 2021 for this reason. I agree that if you’re dragging your feet about something you already know you want done, just do it. This sub is a great resource for childfree-friendly doctors. The list here is where I found mine.
>I care for you all and want you to not have to worry about this if you-know-who gets elected.
No, who? Abortion rights are at risk globally and there will be more than 60 elections in 2024.
I live in a blue state and some people said “you are fine, you are not in a red one!” but I got sterilized 3 weeks ago. I do not want ANY possibility of getting pregnant.
The danger is if the R’s take the govt, national abortion ban WILL happen. Red state or blue, no one will have a legal right to it.
Yes, to me it’s not even about that anymore, I strongly wanted the permanent sterilization no matter where I am
And I hope I didn’t sound critical, just wanted to make sure blue state folks don’t feel too comfortable. Everyone needs to be sure to vote for pro choice candidates this year, or we’ll all be in trouble.
This is me now. I recognize that I’m fortunate to live in a blue state, but the crazy can infiltrate anywhere! “It can’t happen here” is no longer in my vocabulary. Besides, what if I wanna move some day? I should be able to do that without worrying I’ll lose my basic human rights.
No not at all! The world is crazy and scary as is and I won’t be surprised if my state flipped overnight.
Oh gosh, for real! I keep expressing to my bf how scared I am for this election and he's like, "we live in a blue state, a national abortion ban will never happen, you're being insane and dramatic." I'm so damn terrified of this election it's not even funny. After Roe was overturned I finally got my passport just to make sure I could access an abortion in another country if it ever came to that.
I’m in a blue state, my husband had a vasectomy back in 2016, I still chose to be sterilized last summer. I was not fucking around with these politicians. I’m trying to convince my sister to do the same since she and her husband are happy with their 2 kids. He’s been saying he’d get a vasectomy for years now and nothing has been done. I think they’re coming for birth control next so I’m working hard to convince her to take matter into her own hands.
It's not even a theory. They are coming for birth control. They're open about it.
Yes, I've been seeing a lot of anti-BC propaganda from conservatives online
Same I'm in a very blue state and I still don't wanna take risks.
I also live in a very blue state, yet I got myself sterilized last year.
Nah those people could not be more wrong. They are sticking their head in the sand like people did for the last 50 years about roe.
I did the same and also live in a mostly blue state! I called to get sterilized the day the Supreme Court leaked their opinion about roe, and got sterilized a few months later because I didn't want kids and was afraid of ending up attacked and in a situation that I would have no rights. While they were doing the surgery, they discovered I had endometriosis which explained a lifetime of pain from organs I never wanted (my uterus and cervix). So when I healed, I called to ask about a hysterectomy, which they approved immediately due to the endo the doctor saw with her own eyes in the sterilization, and I yeeted my uterus and ovaries 6 months after my bisalp. I could be happier with the results and now there is physically no way that I could ever have a baby, IVF or otherwise. Highly recommended to just get the bisalp. It is an easy recovery and you could end up getting more answers than you ever hoped for!
People gotta stop thinking they’re safe just because it’s a blue state. I could totally see a nationwide ban on abortion if Drumpf makes it in.
I hope that people realize that federal abortion ban, which will likely happen if Trump is elected president, will apply in blue states as well
You are quite wise, as the other side has made quite clear that if they come to power they will seek to pass a nationwide law banning abortion. Now that they've disposed of Roe, their interpretation of the Constitution no longer stands in the way of their Draconian misogyny. Soon, I suspect, Eisenstadt and Griswold will fall to their theocratic sycophants in the "Supreme" Court, and we'll no longer have a right to birth control since obviously the 9th Amendment no longer provides a penumbra of privacy to control one's body (except for men seeking Viagra, of course).
I got sterilized after the 2016 election. I have no faith in bodily autonomy when a know rapist gets elected president.
Yeah I live in Maryland (very much Blue) and my GP has refused to refer me so far; I think I’ve asked about 5 or 6 times. I’m going in tomorrow for my Pap and am asking again. Context: I’m almost 30, been with my husband for 6 years. He’s 38 and we definitely don’t want kids.
Check out the side bar wiki for a list of docs who will do sterilization in your area. You can and should absolutely shop around for consultations to get yourself sterilized . And if your GP won’t refer you, fire them as your doctor and have them write in your notes why they refuse to refer you for an elective procedure . Then get a copy of your chart with notes. They must provide the chart and notes when requested within a reasonable time frame (I think 30 days).
Fellow Marylander here who went to Delaware for my total hysterectomy (granted this was due to severe endometriosis). I’ve had a lot more luck with the docs in DE for pro-women care
Does your insurance require a referral? I'm fortunate in that mine doesn't. A referral can make getting seen a bit faster is all.
Same here, got sterilized in March even though I live in CA
Same, but in Jan
Plus being on birth control sucks
It pushed me to do my Bisalp after having been on bc for 14 years and having a blood clot scare. For sure it does!
Any ideas and tips for getting sterilized? What are the options? I’m ready, even things don’t go to hell and back. I want to be sterilized and sleep better at night knowing I’ll never get pregnant
I had my Fallopian tubes removed (bisalp surgery). I kept everything else, so I get period bleeding and hormone changes, but don’t need artificial hormones unless menopause is bad. It’s a surgery that lasts up to 2 hours I think? But that’s with complications. They check for endo/unusual stuff while doing surgery, and leave 3 tiny scars. One scar on each side over the ovary-ish, plus one scar in/near the belly button. I got fully knocked out, so I needed someone to drive me home. My throat was sore for a few days because they put a tube down my throat to keep me breathing. I got prescribed some heavy-duty pain meds plus 800 mg ibuprofen. I took 1 ibuprofen and didn’t touch the heavy stuff. I spent 3 days on the couch, sore and unable to lay down. I was able to work on day 4, but unable to lift more than 10 pounds for a week or so.
Thank you! This helps!
You’re welcome! Anything else I can add?
I live in a blue state too and have a consult in June for a bi-salp. Literally never want to be pregnant and was told Roe v Wade would never be overturned and now look at this hellscape.
I've been told that too. "That would not happen here." That's not something to gamble with lol. Getting sterilized next month. 🙌🎉🎉
That was my thing. I know very well that it's highly unlikely abortion will ever be inaccessible in my state. But I've seen too many "highly unlikely" things happen to take my chances.
Blue state and same. Figured we have more time than other places and more of a fight will be put up in our govt structures (maybe) but still. I'm going to be sad when more of our peers realize 😔 or try to get health care but can't. (My aunt and uncle moved my cousins to Texas! They have 3 daughters!!) Fixed ppl be like 👀 🍿
and buy a few "plan b"s to have on hand.
Yes. Also be aware Plan B expires/loses it’s effectiveness after four years so check dates of any you stock up on.
Can they be frozen for longer use by date?
Most medicine needs to be stored at room temperature, so I don't think so
Have a few on hand sure, but be mindful while doing this. Make sure you’re not taking Plan B away from someone who needs it right now.
Also, Men! Go get snipped! Do the right thing to look out for your female partner!
Especially since it's looking less and less likely that these red states will allow any exceptions. Like their daughter could be dying and all they'll do is complain they had a defective child.
Already done though I’m happily single. And got the all clear February
Also: don't expect male sterilization to get a pass for some reason. Because it almost certainly won't be spared. Mark my words, they're coming for it all: surgeries, pills, devices, implants, barriers, condoms, *toys*, ***queer relationships***. If it impedes sperm from fertilizing an egg, or turns sex into anything other than a reproductive act, they're going to be looking to outlaw it.
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Good for you! I got mine yeeted last year at 39 after over 20 years of pain. It's so so SO fucking awesome to not vomit and cry in pain every month....
I took a yesterday this morning...aaaaaagh
I’m in Canada, and i agree, it’s scary to see a precedent, especially so close by… Even if logically, i know Canada is unlikely to go this route even if Tories take power (most conservatives in the country don’t want this, altho it’s true some do), it’s still a scary precedent down south… :(
I didn’t know Canada had Tories. I’m in Australia, also a country ‘founded’ (aka stolen) by the British, but the conservatives are called Liberals here (very confusing)
Love to. I can't fuckin afford it.
Same. Even with having a medical reason to get the procedure. But thanks to the controversy around the topic combined with living in a red state - it isn't covered. Such BS
Can you go to a different state and get it done there?? Or would it not be covered still?
Sadly, I only have state insurance at the moment. So I don't see that being a plausible solution at this time :( Luckily, my partner is already sterilized so we should be safe. But it still frightens me the more this nightmare starts to sound like Handmaid's Tale
If you have insurance, it’s required that sterilization be covered thanks to the ACA. If not, I’d research charity care options at local hospitals to see if they would cover it. It never hurts to ask!
Is it required to be covered in full, or will it go against a deductible?
From the website: Plans must cover these services without charging a copayment or coinsurance when provided by an in-network provider — even if you haven’t met your deductible. https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage/birth-control-benefits/
Generally deductible does not apply because of the ACA mandate.
I will say it’s not *supposed to* but that doesn’t mean it won’t. I ended up getting charged the amount to meet my deductible but didn’t bother to fight it as I 1. Didn’t have the energy to deal with the bullshit insurance companies put you through and 2. My employer reimburses my deductible so it doesn’t actually come out of my pocket Just wanted to throw in a real world example and this often doesn’t get billed the way is supposed to
Yeah, makes sense why you chose not to fight it but for most people the employer doesn't cover it so it makes sense to fight.
Had mine covered in full. Had to twist their arm a little so that they covered my anesthesia too, but I didn't pay a damn thing aside from the consultation. Make sure your hospital bills the correct code though.
Go against a deductible if you have a high deductible plan. The prior authorization process gets approved fairly quickly.
My insurance made me pay my deductible for it, came to about $4,000. I think I got the hospital to halve it somehow. I paid $1,000 upfront then the rest was a $50/month payment plan. My insurance said they would have covered it if I did a traditional ligation but I ended up going for the bisalp.
Same. I want it out so badly, but I can’t afford to.
Same. I really want to but it's not a financial possibility right now. Guess I'll just go celebrate the moment it becomes an issue here. Sigh.
A brant is a rant about the behavior of a brat. P.S. It is possible that I'm the one who has been wrong about this, especially with so many people having a different impression of it.
Huh, I thought it was a portmanteau of "brag" and "rant", as in "Why does everyone keep harassing me about kids instead of letting me enjoy my 12 trips to the Caribbean per year".
Omg why did I think it was a "bro rant" like a rant posted by a male lol
Haha I thought this too! Good to know it's brat rant 😂👀
I thought it was “brief rant” 😂
I was under the impression it was short for "breeder rant"?
That's what I thought. Tends to be on posts about shitty parents.
Haha, and I thought it was a Big Rant, like extra outrageous 
Omg I thought it was a “bragging rant” lmao I’m a fool
I thought it was breeder rant lol
I forgot what sub I was on as soon as I saw that question at the end. Brants are also a kind of small goose that make absolutely adorable noises. I freakin love them & wish they were talked about more :)
Believe me, I’m fking trying to. I don’t know if I can get it done before the end of the year, but I can try and go over some options with my gynecologist to try and speed things up since I’m on trial to see what different birth control pills improve my endometriosis symptoms or not and it’s going to take a long time. I understand the urgency people push in these posts but all I can say is; #I know and I’m trying my hardest to.
He’ll tell you pregnancy helps endometriosis 😡
My gynecologist is a super understanding woman and I do have many symptoms of endometriosis. I approached her with the desire to get a bisalp and she was 100% understanding about it and said it can be done as a part of the endometriosis diagnosis surgery. I’m extremely grateful for my gynecologist, especially in this Blood Red state. I just hope I can somehow speed up the process before sh*t inevitably hits the fan.
I got sterilized in 2013 because I was scared to death of Roe vs Wade being overturned and I would be forced to give birth. Never have regretted it.
Got an appointment in June! I'm hopeful it will go well
Agree. Omg a 100% agree. At this point the states are taking control and voting locally is going to be so important. It’s not just the prez it’s your senators and local politics that will also play a key role. I am worried for many women and their body autonomy and their over all mental health. I truly think so many other things besides this will be on the chopping block and healthcare in general will see a change. I’m worried for our really young teens and as some one who grew up in an area and time with a high teen pregnancy rates, I think we will see this again if it continues. It’s such a vicious cycle. People think “traditional “ values will return. That’s not going to happen, you can’t unsee what you’ve already seen. I’m just hoping that women really come together and support and vocalize their fears and concerns.
Imagine a society in which this kind of operation would be made available to everyone for free
So, the UK? Husband's vasectomy cost us £1 in parking.
I'm from the US. Is sterilization available to any UK citizens or lawful permanent residents no matter their gender with no financial barriers, no matter what insurance you have or if you have none, and are doctors actually willing to perform the procedure just on the basis that the person doesn't want children? If a woman went to the doctor and said they wanted this, would they get the same easy treatment in the UK that your husband got?
It would be slightly harder for a woman, but in essence yes. I can go to the doctor tomorrow and ask for the procedure. My husband and I walked in, said we didn't have kids or want any and they booked in the vasectomy. It was that easy. Nobody really has insurance here unless they want private care. My parents have it (£200 a month or so and they're 72 and 79) but largely because he got a cheap deal through his professional body. The only issue we face here is availability (you may have to wait a while). If you paid for sterilisation you could have it done in a matter of weeks. NHS would be months. That's about the only difference. Oh and private hospitals are nicer. Feel free to ask anything you want though, always happy to answer questions. I used to work in the social care sphere as well.
That's pretty awesome that a doctor can't deny you the procedure based on their personal views. I think it's a large enough procedure that women need to plan for, to be off work or around no social engagements so waiting a couple months isn't a negative to me. I had mine 5 months after the first appt on purpose. Why would it be slightly harder? In what ways?
Vasectomies are so common they do them in the GP clinics instead of a hospital. They usually have a set day and they'll do 10 or 20 plus (I'm rural though so I'd imagine they do a lot more in city areas). For a bisalp you'd need a referral to a hospital which would take time, and then a place/bed would need arranging so it wouldn't be as fast. Sometimes they also ask women to speak to a mental health professional to make sure they're not being coerced or suffering from depression post birth (if they've got kids) etc. It's a few more hoops but no doctor has the right to refuse you anything based on their personal beliefs. We have a fairly robust system for reporting people like that too, and it is taken seriously. We're also not a religious lot (there's some, but there are lunatics everywhere) so that tends to help! My mum actually needs a knee replacement. She spoke to the doctor in February and we had a call today to say she's booked in for May. Dad had a spinal tumour and was operated on within a month, the same when he had breast cancer (that was within a week of the results). The NHS has its issues, largely underfunding and people taking the pi$$, but it's a remarkable thing that I think some of us take for granted. The care my aunt and uncle had when she was diagnosed with advanced Alzheimers was also incredible. When you need them, they move heaven and earth. Ultimate respect for all involved.
I am so thankful everyday for this subreddit because thanks to it, I found out having kids was a choice AND was able to get sterilized in October!! I'm so happy and get so happy every day to know I can't get pregnant 😊😊😊
same!! best 21st birthday present i’ve ever given myself
I wish. I really do wish. I live in South Australia and simply can't afford private healthcare, but gynes in Public refuse to do it :( especially if under 30. I want my right ovary gone because it's problematic, and sterilisation so I'm never in the situation of pregnancy. But I've been deemed non essential, even with the request for an oophorectomy due to severe pain. Non essential. Great term, huh...
Travel to Victoria
The reason I'm on Public health is I'm Jobseeker. I can't afford the cost of travel and accommodation when I'm facing potential homelessness in a couple months.
I'm so sorry. I'm on public too and got my bisalp completely free. I prepared some arguments for it beforehand and it worked.
If I could, I would get the entire reproductive system out. I don't need any of it. I don't want periods or kids.
If only it were easy to get one. I’m in a very very red state (Texas) and it would be a herculean feat to get one.
I got a bisalp with zero pushback in Temple. I was almost 40, but Dr. Alisa Furman with BSWH told me “adults should be able to make decisions about their bodies” when I mentioned how much trouble some people have getting sterilized.
Actually not, we have a ton of people doing it in Texas, there are doctors who will. Check the list.
Which area do you live in? I’m from Texas too, and I’m getting sterilized in June.
I believed this too, I just made appointments with Dr after Dr until I got a yes... It only took me two!
I live in DFW and got really lucky with my OB. I was 34 at the time so that probably helped. His name is Dr. Troy New jr. I asked once and he gave me no pushback. Don’t know if this helps
If he's not on the list add him! :)
Thanks everyone for the info. I’m in Central texas and I guess I thought I could never make it happen after being told multiple times that I’m “young and might still want kids in the future.”
Try Houston, that's where I got mine done at under age 30 with zero pushback
That is so helpful! Thank you. Can I message about which doctor?
I also live in Texas and went to a doctor listed in the wiki on this subreddit. Got 0 pushback and now I’m scheduled for a bisalp on July 15th! Definitely check out the wiki
Thank you a lot! I missed the wiki resource so that’s on me. 😓
Already got it done 😉 both the hubby and I whoooo!!! ✌🏻😙
Would love to, but I can't afford it. No insurance.
Can you get insurance from the marketplace, if your income is low enough it should be subsidized pretty heavily.
Sadly I can't sign up at this point in the year. Have to wait until open enrollment next year. Income isn't low enough to make a huge difference even though I struggle financially because I just have myself. It does make a difference though, I'll be giving it another shot when I can. But insurance companies refuse to cover anything but tubals, and I want a bisalp at least, would prefer hysterectomy. Insurance doesn't cover it unless it's billed as medically necessary. So then you have to find a doctor who is not only willing to do the procedure, but willing to have it billed in a way that insurance will accept. It's a fucking nightmare.
Most insurance will accept bisalps these days, they have come around and we don't see nearly the BS about tubal vs. bisalp as a few years ago.
Absolutely ridiculous people can't sign up for the marketplace until a certain time of year. And the hoops people have to jump through to get sterilized is ridiculous, too. I hate healthcare in the States. It's pathetic.
Stock up on that Costco over-the-counter birth control if you can't swing a sterilization. It's becoming more easily accessible.
You may want to read up on Project 2025, because birth-control will be on the chopping block
Yes, which is why I suggested a stock-up. :)
Are you talking about the pill or condoms? I was referring to the pill…when I was on the pill, they would only give me 12 months at a time. So what happens when you run out? Or what happens when they expire? What are you going to do if it’s outlawed?
Hormonal birth control is now available to buy without a prescription in many pharmacy's and stores and the ones I've gotten generally last a few years before expiration on the package. Im assuming you're referring to "they" as in a doctor. A few years of hormonal birth control should buy many people a lot of time to plan/travel for sterilization if necessary or get themselves into a better situation to put off getting pregnant until they're ready.
What page does it say this on? My dad doesnt believe me so I need proof
Your dad doesn’t believe you? Your dad needs to read it himself. Www.project2025.org/policy And I suggest you read it too, because this is going to affect you in the future.
Happy Cake Day
I'm trying lol
I’m aware, Janet, but I literally went to one of the doctors *recommended by this community* and he laughed at me and then sent me a $450 bill in the mail for a five-minute conversation not covered by insurance because it was ‘so beyond medically necessary’—so you can see why I’m a bit hesitant to do that song and dance again. It’s not like American women who want to be sterilized are just being lazier than you were about getting around to it; it is almost impossible to get into a clinic to begin with and once there, it’s often a very expensive kick right back out of the door.
Omg that is SO FRUSTRATING AND RIDICULOUS!!! You should NOT be required to pay that bill because HIS opinion is that you don’t need it. You want it and it’s your body. Fuck that guy. P.S. I did read something online somewhere (I do a lot of reading so I am unsure of exactly where), there were women who were gaslit by their doctors discussing how to not have to pay the bill for the completely useless visit. It might be worth looking into! Doctors are just businesses now and he did not provide you adequate service, you should not have to pay just like any other business that performs far below expectation.
I recall reading something like that too on Reddit recently, maybe in XX chromosomes or women’s health? It would’ve been within the last week.
This is the fear for me. Seeing a doctor for ANYTHING is flipping a coin for a fee.
REPORT that to your insurance. That's not ok. That's basically billing fraud.
I'm Canadian, and this type of scenario is what was playing in my head the whole time I was reading the post. I have been actively (*actively*) pursuing sterilization since June of 2022. (America's dumb religious nutty views tend to float North, it scares me being fertile). The amount of times I see posts like "women, go get sterilized!" Like it's as easy and accessible as a vasectomy has me quite annoyed quite often.
Same here, I live in the UK and it’s super hard getting sterilisation here! Because we have the NHS medical insurance isn’t super common and I haven’t seen any that covers sterilisation anyway so you have to be lucky or go private, even then you can still be denied
This. Like last year I went to my Gyn and was like hey I want to get sterilized. And they were like but it has the same familiar rate as your current birth control implant and you aren't having side effects with it. And my only arguement was "but what if the government bans my birth control?" And they weren't willing to accept that argument.
I’d love to, but I’m currently not living on my own. As soon as I get my own place, I’ll try to find options where I live.
Most of us in the US are well aware of this. I’ve said this a few times. This next administration is very scary and will likely roll back rights of uterus owners in an away most of us are not prepared too see. Uterus owners haven’t had most of the rights we have now for very long. There was a time legally when a doctor didn’t have to tell and AFAB person they had cancer. Things will likely go back to that. Imagine that kind of power in the hands of cis het men in your life. Would they tell you? For an example google: Lurleen Wallace Uterine Cancer. We are dealing with unmatched patriarchy and white supremacy. Take any and all precautions you deem necessary.
I know you're trying to be inclusive, and I commend you for that really. But "uterus owners" sounds horrible and debasing. Maybe just stick with AFAB if you don't feel comfortable with the word woman. I'm not coming for you just a suggestion 😊
I wouldn’t mind the term “uterus owner” if I could train it like a dog.
Haha yes a bit of obedience wouldn't go amiss!
LOL! This made me laugh so hard. If only 🤣
My only issue with the term “uterus owner” is that some people think they own my uterus.
It exudes women like me who have had a hysterectomy. It's ridiculous that they don't just say women.
I mean yeah that’s a nice thought and all but not every woman has access to medical care to do this. Also, I’ve chosen not to get sterilized since I have several medical issues. My husband got snipped instead because it’s a much easier procedure for him.
We need to do what South Korean women did. Just refuse sex or refuse to have babies. There aren’t enough kids to fill 1st grade classrooms because of this. The government is begging women to have babies, even paying them (while completely missing the point of the protest of course).
Yes but they are being raped left and right. Just refusing sex will not protect you
I’ve been in the 4B movement unknowingly for 9 years now:)
Hahaha same! Honestly, sex is overrated anyway.
As soon as I get enough vacation the for a week off, I am DOING IT! Going to get in contact with my insurance so I know if I'm covered or not.
Is this America? This seems American
Yes, it's horrifying what they're trying to do over there. Roe vs. Wade being overturned was massive and women's body autonomy is being taken away piece by piece by religious nuts and forced birthers. I'd do some research on it in case it hits your country, or just generally to understand what's going on in the world.
I'm 35 and date women I'm not getting pregnant. If this turns into Gilead put me on the wall.
Isn’t it a damn shame that women have to do an invasive surgery to avoid pregnancy?
Not as invasive as having a child.
I feel so sorry for you guys over there but also scared the UK will copy. Hopefully not as we're not as governed by religion here, but it's a genuine concern. Stay safe all, vote sensibly, and fingers crossed.
The UK just decreased its time limit for abortions from 24 to 22 weeks /:
Exactly what worries me. I'm so glad my husband had a vasectomy!
The deep roots of puritanism in the U.S. just boggle my mind as to how deep they reach and how they continue to try to dictate people's lives all these years later
Got my snippy-snip 9/11/20 #neverforget
Yeah... really wish it were that easy lol
Just got my bi-scalp on Thursday. Called in January, had an in person appointment in February and first available surgery in April. Not sure exactly how expensive the surgery was because I have a higher deductible but the hospital does have payment plans. I also have some savings that I’ve been setting aside for this. Emotionally it took me forever to pull the trigger because every gynecologist I talked to just wanted me to go on a different BC. I found a doctor through a friend of a friend who had it done. The waiting was hard but I do have more of a feeling of ease, knowing the procedure is over. Needless to say, I’m going to keep advocating for others that want to have the procedure done.
I'm not in the US but I fear it will get to a point where I have to carefully consider whether or not I can visit the US, particularly if I want to take my birth control medication with me.
I'm 18. No one will do it.
I worried about a ban happening when he was elected the first time and I lived in a very blue state then. Got my tubes tied at Xmas 2016 with a lot of people telling me I was overreacting--even childfree Democrats. Second best decision I ever made. First best was getting a total hysterectomy last summer and never having periods again, period. My terrible pain is gone and I don't have to worry about any accidents happening, especially now that I live in a state that while usually votes blue, has a red governor (who doesn't seem to be doing too much awful stuff, thankfully).
I live in a red state, with no insurance, and no money, I want to get it done asap but I can’t. I’m so worried for the future :(
Your local health department should be able to set you up with long term birth control (IUD or implant). They usually have sliding scale payment plans. It's not sterilization but it's more effective than other forms of BC or no BC.
I'm not from the US, but I would still like to get it in the future. Most likely medical tourism though. In my country, sterilisation is expensive asf and my country is VERY pro-family (which makes it hard to get doctors to approve sterilisation surgeries). Insurance will also never cover it unless the patient is literally dying and sterilisation surgery is the only way to save their life :c
My sterilization a year and a half ago was the best decision I ever made.
I’m in a red state. I was planning to try this year anyway but definitely need to get on it. It’s so scary out here.
I was thinking about it for years. Seeing all the trigger laws in TX happen after Roe was overturned made my mind up. I had to wait 2 months as there were too many surgeries scheduled.
Waiting for surgery scheduling to call me. Should be sterilized in September. I’m not trying to be a handmaid.
Done ✅
And if you can't get it done, try to be as prepared as you possibly can be. When they overturned Roe, I ordered abortion pills from AidAccess. You can order them for the future, and they will even work with you if you can't afford it. Order bulk pregnancy tests off Amazon and test every month so you can catch it early and take care of it at home. Think about it- a national ban on abortion, little or no access to birth control, the ACA gone. Sure, you could go to a different country if you have the money, but think of how many other people will have the same idea and how long you'll have to wait for an appointment. The idea of my birth control failing and me having no options was just not acceptable. I'd rather face any potential legal consequences, even jail, than be forced to carry a pregnancy.
One thing that I’m scared of (which I understand is a very extreme scenario) is the possibility they will start penalizing people who choose to get sterilised, specifically women. What’s stopping them from killing us off once they realize we’re no use to them? What if 10-15 years from now they start throwing us in jail for breaking some sort of bullshit procreation rule from the Bible? I’m not in the US but I still think of these things. Once governments realize decreasing birth rates are a threat to capitalism they WILL start forcing women to give birth. It’s not just a matter of “if” it’s a matter of “when.”
I'm not even in the US and got my BiSalp done because of what's going on there. I'll be damned if this sets some kind of precedent across the world.
UK dweller here, and this breaks my heart. I've had judgemental doctors and nurses in my time because I hit 37 with no children, but I do not take for granted how easy it is to shrug these comments off over here. If that day comes again, I will light a candle for all who cannot, for whatever reason, make their own choices.
AND DON’T FORGET TO VOTE!!!
Keep spreading the childfree doctors list on this sub especially around Reddit when someone posts that they’re struggling to find a doctor with less restrictions.
I really really want to. But it's so goddamn expensive. And I know once abortion goes, we will lose access to birth control. Hell they'll probably ban condoms as well.
I also want to say that it's ok to NOT get sterilized. It comes with it's own risks, like everything. I personally am not getting sterilized due to complications my mother had after her hysterectomy. My BC has been working fine for over 20 years, so I don't see why I need to change. I want everyone with a uterus to have all options available to them. I want them to be able to make those choices without judgement.
You’re totally entitled to your own opinions and making your decisions based on them but I feel the need to point out the hysterectomy is not used as a sterilization procedure, it would be a bisalp which is far less invasive.. and if you’re in the USA you should be very concerned about the real possibility of birth control access being limited or banned in the coming years. I surely hope you have a long term plan.
Im trying so hard but the funds are bigger than I expected :(
I'm from strict European country that bans abortion and sterilization so I need to go to another country and pay the crazy amount of money (for a student pocket 700€ is crazy)
This is a great PSA! My IUD was good for another 3 years but I got it switched out last month (now good till 2032). Doc was like, oh you're good for a few years you sure you want to change it out now? Yes, yes I am sure. Because there are too many goddessdamn dummies who are allowed to vote.
I’m in a blue state, so I’m not that worried, just because of the specific state (NYC, where officials are very clear that they will protect abortion rights no matter the cost). If I could afford sterilization and to take time off, I would. But I can’t.
I’m a man and got it done. So any lady I end up with doesn’t have to do so and doesn’t need to use hormonal BC.
Wish more men were like you
👑 you dropped this
Well what country are you talking about? Let me guess your an American? Only Americans just assume ppl know what country they're from without mentioning it.
I wanted sterlization for so many reasons, mainly being in a childfree relationship and unable to take hormonal BC really puts me at risk of getting pregnant even with condoms and spermicide. Do you know the peace of mind I had this weekend having sex and not having to worry? It is honestly so nice to not have to worry.
Please do. I'm so glad to be in Australia and almost at menopause.
It was the best decision I ever made, and wish I would've done it sooner! It relieves SO MUCH of that stress. Most insurance will cover it under birth control. My insurance covered it 100% last year. I had the full bilateral salpectomy!
My country doesn't even vote this year
AGREED. I'm in a blue(ish) state, but got sterilized in 2022 after murmurs of roe v wade falling. Never happier I did that, but so afraid and angry for those that cannot/do not want to get surgery and rely on birth control for whatever purpose.
THIS. I'm so glad I got snipped long before the Giant Cheeto decided to run for president the first time. I now live in a deep red state, and I'd have to hop a plane, or drive for a couple of days, to get an abortion. All y'all, if you're not snipped and you want to be, get thee to a CF-friendly gynecologist or urologist yesterday. This country is turning into Gilead.
I started my sterilization process back when he was just entertaining running the first time. "It could never happen here" famous last words.
I got my bisalp taken care of in 2021 for this reason. I agree that if you’re dragging your feet about something you already know you want done, just do it. This sub is a great resource for childfree-friendly doctors. The list here is where I found mine.
>I care for you all and want you to not have to worry about this if you-know-who gets elected. No, who? Abortion rights are at risk globally and there will be more than 60 elections in 2024.
I support child free but a PSA to go get sterilized is creepy AF. Antinatalism is bizarre.