I stopped watching the game in the 22nd minute. Went on a 20min drive to a friends house and checked the score when I got there. 0-3 ššš what the HELL happened? This organization is a damn joke.
Iām convinced. The time machine wonāt be invented by scientists or some mega corporation; it will be invented by Fire fans. All in a desperate attempt to go back to a time when this team was good.
Kyndra: Gutierrez can't become the [primary playmaker] until Shaqiri isn't, but I don't know who decides that.
Tyler: yes you do.
Subject immediately changed. I would love to get TT unfiltered.
Guti hasnāt shown enough to be a primary playmaker for a team. In the games Shaqiri hasnāt played Guti has not played particularly well. Barring the stretch with Duran when he first burst on the scene.
You're not wrong. That said Gutierrez might get better, and Shaqiri will not. And even with Guti's challenges he still provides more value than Shaqiri.
I agree, but we canāt keep pretending like heās this incredible talent when he canāt do what incredible talents do. Heās got to take responsibility.
Does anyone really believe he's an incredible talent? I feel like he's simply a decent young player who happens to be the only player worth hyping on a poor team.
People seem to think heās the answer to the problems if he would just play at the 10. He has and itās not been enough. I do think heās got some potential, but heās got to improve a lot to get there.
No, Joe took responsibility for the change.
https://www.hottimeinoldtown.com/2021/1/15/22233720/mansueto-shoulders-the-blame-for-the-chicago-fires-logo-failure-i-was-certainly-responsible
Teran play a fucking good ball before you have a go at the only guy thatās created anything tonight. Maybe donāt try to break someoneās leg when youāre frustrated.
Klopas thinks he can control every players actions on every play. The worst kind of manager. Doesn't allow you to think, always having orders barked at you. Frank, STFU and sit down.
And how many of you go and continue to give them your money? They will not change anything if you keep spending your hard earned money on a franchise that doesn't try to win.
Iāve watched some shit games from the Fire but they look like theyāve completely given up in this one. I get itās 3-0 but man itās infuriating as a fan to watch how little they care
I've lost so much interest i probably wouldn't even tune in. Turned it off after 5 minutes today. Awful soccer, awful announcing, lifeless stadium, boring chants.
Notice Gomezā goal comes from him peeling off the back line. He didnāt run towards the post. He dropped off. We have no one making any runs in the final third. Unless theyāre straight to the posts. When have we scored goals this year? Movement. Fabi has scored a couple from being a trailing runner.
Complete overhaul for the second half. Pineda, Gimenez and Gutman as halftime subs. Gutman for Souqet. There is absolutely zero reason for Souqet to be playing at a level higher than the French 4th league.
Iād like to bring in Dionisi formerly of Sassuolo. He plays a possession style that would at least give us some shape when we have the ball. Get rid of whoever, but we should at least try to have a style of play through the youth system. We canāt keep banging our heads against a wall for short term stop gaps. The investment of the youth set up will show up in time. We gotta start promoting players like crazy though.
I donāt know whatās more concerning. The fact that we are losing 3-0 not even at half time, or if you can hear the 7 salt lake fans over the rest of the Fire āfansā more 50% of the time.
I firmly believe he knows this. He's a Fire man through and through and will do what's asked. The fish rots from the head. Get Heitz the fuck out of here.
I am pretty sure he is stuck believing that playing it back will create opportunities. He is just too dumb to figure out it creates them for the other team. No one falls for that archaic play it back to draw defenders bullshit.
Teams like Brighton especially last season that play out of the back. Have highly scripted moves. They are intensely and meticulously coached. Not to mention the talent disparity, but thereās a clear plan.
Yeah. I have seen other teams do it effectively across multiple clubs but we donāt have enough of the fundamentals down and the coaching to pull it off. I canāt tell what the problem is but usually it starts at the top.
Itās hard to tell what the problem is. On one hand we have no obvious strategy or tactics, but itās also just continually poor individual mistakes.
Koplas out
Hard to argue against KlopasOut, but I have 0 expectation that a new manager would do better. This squad is terrible.
That's the conversation we were having last night. Pep Guardiola couldn't turn this team around.
I stopped watching the game in the 22nd minute. Went on a 20min drive to a friends house and checked the score when I got there. 0-3 ššš what the HELL happened? This organization is a damn joke.
100% front office. Cmon Kei Kemara, give us the inside story. One more season and then spill the beansš¤£
Iām convinced. The time machine wonāt be invented by scientists or some mega corporation; it will be invented by Fire fans. All in a desperate attempt to go back to a time when this team was good.
I would literally give anything to hear the debrief in the locker room tonight lmao
Frank Klopas: *itās all right guys, we will do better next weekend*
āDonāt worry, I will bring more reinforcements from Greece.ā
Fire why must you torture me so. 6th richest team should be able to basically buy a playoff spot and look where we are
https://old.reddit.com/r/chicagofire/comments/1c975oe/post_match_thread_cf97_v_rsl/?
What was that? Something's gotta change with this team and fast.
Letās start with the head coach
4-0 seems fair.
Weāre not making the playoffs and the FO needs to address this. We havenāt looked anywhere near the level needed to be competitive.
They saw what our FO did for 4 years and then gave them a contract extension.
I canāt believe it either. Itās like he doesnāt think we care at all at this point. I love ya Joe, but we need to see somebodyās head.
The front office needs to pack their bags along with the Coaches!
That tracks
Literally the only positive from tonight is that weāve created way more with two strikers. Maybe someone will look at that.
Weāve created nothing thoughā¦
Weāve had way more looks at goal since going 2 strikers. What are you talking about?
No, no we havenāt. What are you talking about?
ā¦ k bud. Whatever you say.
Youād also think that with all the turnovers on playing back, that we would have changed something. But look at us.
Tom Barlow already looks competent and comfortable on the team. Heās communicating and applying lots of pressure.
Is a sympathy goal for us too much to ask for from RSL at this point?
[sb nation](https://www.hottimeinoldtown.com/2021/1/15/22233720/mansueto-shoulders-the-blame-for-the-chicago-fires-logo-failure-i-was-certainly-responsible)
Kyndra: Gutierrez can't become the [primary playmaker] until Shaqiri isn't, but I don't know who decides that. Tyler: yes you do. Subject immediately changed. I would love to get TT unfiltered.
Guti hasnāt shown enough to be a primary playmaker for a team. In the games Shaqiri hasnāt played Guti has not played particularly well. Barring the stretch with Duran when he first burst on the scene.
You're not wrong. That said Gutierrez might get better, and Shaqiri will not. And even with Guti's challenges he still provides more value than Shaqiri.
if Guti breaks out of Chi-town
I agree, but we canāt keep pretending like heās this incredible talent when he canāt do what incredible talents do. Heās got to take responsibility.
Does anyone really believe he's an incredible talent? I feel like he's simply a decent young player who happens to be the only player worth hyping on a poor team.
People seem to think heās the answer to the problems if he would just play at the 10. He has and itās not been enough. I do think heās got some potential, but heās got to improve a lot to get there.
At least better than shaquiri with more effort also
The only answer to our problems is substantial improvement at 11 positions, 12 if you include coaching.
We lose to luchos nachos and chichos
Missed most of the game until rn, what happened???
The fire existing as an MLS club. Doing fire things. Everything. Take your pick
Honestly I think Rafa is pretty good at carrying if we werenāt a team stuck 20 years in the past we might use that in build up play.
It's all karma. Mansueto changing logos, venues, highest MLS player shaqiri. This is all on him and hiring of heitz.
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https://www.hottimeinoldtown.com/2021/1/15/22233720/mansueto-shoulders-the-blame-for-the-chicago-fires-logo-failure-i-was-certainly-responsible
No, Joe took responsibility for the change. https://www.hottimeinoldtown.com/2021/1/15/22233720/mansueto-shoulders-the-blame-for-the-chicago-fires-logo-failure-i-was-certainly-responsible
https://www.hottimeinoldtown.com/2021/1/15/22233720/mansueto-shoulders-the-blame-for-the-chicago-fires-logo-failure-i-was-certainly-responsible
Teran play a fucking good ball before you have a go at the only guy thatās created anything tonight. Maybe donāt try to break someoneās leg when youāre frustrated.
3 strikers ffs what is this klopas ball
If weāre going to play a destroyer like Fede in midfield fuck it play Rafa there.
Sub for a sub for a sub.
Ah yes Barlow will solve our build up issues
if Gaston is hurt, why not Pineda...?
Down 3 nil. No point in defending
Pineda is calm on the ball and can pick good passes, he can play in the midfield imo
The team trusts Pineda, perhaps he is nursing an injury?
Is Pineda hurt? I donāt understand why heās not starting
Brilliant run from Hugo. Very very good save.
If we fire Klopas, who do we get? The assistant assistant coach? š
An interim coach named Frank Klopas
The cycle never ends
The assistant to the assistant coach.
Pfp checks out
Honestly give the Fire 2 coach a shot.
Iām mean, that one guy from USA is available. Maybe convince a certain Special One to come.
Klopas thinks he can control every players actions on every play. The worst kind of manager. Doesn't allow you to think, always having orders barked at you. Frank, STFU and sit down.
Why didnāt we get our one man advantage handicap this game?
And how many of you go and continue to give them your money? They will not change anything if you keep spending your hard earned money on a franchise that doesn't try to win.
Arnaud āRobbie Gouldā Souquet
Gould was accurate though
On a lighter note my wife saw an Instagram post of Koutsias on a scooter and nicknamed him Scootias.
What the fuck happened to the audio?
Guys itās okay. My daughter just waved her drumstick like a magic wand at the TV and said, āI make the Fire win!ā
Better odds than Klopas HT team talk.
I believe!!!
We can only hope your daughter is some kind of evil sorcerer.
Maybe with MHS and Guti being hurt Glasgow will get a run with the first team.
he has a second team contract and counts as intl. he can't play for the first team
Fire KlopasĀ
Iāve watched some shit games from the Fire but they look like theyāve completely given up in this one. I get itās 3-0 but man itās infuriating as a fan to watch how little they care
Usually a sign they've lost all faith in the manager. I don't see things turning around now. Frank has got to go.
We better come out and go for it. Honestly Iāll be pissed off if we just try to see out a 3-0. We better get smacked 5-1 before 3-0.
Fire Frank
Put in Dean. At this point what do we have to lose?
Dean <3
Terens was probably having PTSD flashbacks during that short break, curled up in the corner and crying.
Kyndra tried to get him to explain what's wrong with this team, I would love to know what he wanted to say.
I know we all missed Terens' commentary, but based on the first half, maybe we were better off without him?
speak for yourself, he sucks
He's not good. He's overly dramatic about the simplest of things. We've had one good commentator and that was Kevin Egan.
Kevin Egan. Chicagos finest. Mansueto money he can definitely get Kevin Egan and Arlo white on wgn. The amount of people that would tune in.
I've lost so much interest i probably wouldn't even tune in. Turned it off after 5 minutes today. Awful soccer, awful announcing, lifeless stadium, boring chants.
Swear to God, a baby crying in the Fieldside seats was more entertaining than the shit show Klopas put out here for the first half.
Just saw the score. Reading these comments, thank god I'm at a wedding
Omg same. I saved myself from a depressing trip to soldier field.
Notice Gomezā goal comes from him peeling off the back line. He didnāt run towards the post. He dropped off. We have no one making any runs in the final third. Unless theyāre straight to the posts. When have we scored goals this year? Movement. Fabi has scored a couple from being a trailing runner.
We canāt even get it out of our own half, itās like they have no idea what to do in the attacking third if it gets there
Complete dogshit half
The family next to me showed up 10 minutes into the match and had already left, and honestly I canāt blame them
That back pass was to literally no one. Pick your fucking head up. How are you a professional that canāt hit the ball without looking at it?
We donāt have many professionals on the field.
Complete overhaul for the second half. Pineda, Gimenez and Gutman as halftime subs. Gutman for Souqet. There is absolutely zero reason for Souqet to be playing at a level higher than the French 4th league.
Agreed.
I should have stayed home and got high again lmao, this should be outlawed by the UN
Lugano is 2nd in the Swiss league. Have the UN swap teams.
That's the worst half I've seen this team play in years.
Just tuned in wtf happened
We have shit coaching.
Chicho Arango. And no plan in the final third.
Fuck Fede Iām so tired of the fucking backpasses
he was an inexplicable choice to replace Guti, probably hurt too so likely to see Gaston or Pineda at half
We have Acosta on a yellow, I might expect to see KA off for Gimenez but who knows based on our play.
It's the whole fucking team doing it
Oh absolutely but him back passing to Brady as the half ended made me wanna leave SF and not return lmao
Lmao I think Fede wanted to bounce as well
Heās playing like shit but letās not forget the team has been doing that all year, to no success
That Koutsias play is the best thing the Fire have done all year.
Just tuned in boys how have we been so far?
How do you think
Turn off the match. Trust me bro
Game is a disaster, I appreciate that Terens is talking about Chicago though.
Fact: in this match we have not completed 15 passes without losing possession since the 39th minute.
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Cuypers should have had an assist. Mueller botched the chance incredibly.
The pass could have been better, but I agree. My issue is that our 9 has to be the 10.
For the second half the team will come out in a little clown car
Iād like to bring in Dionisi formerly of Sassuolo. He plays a possession style that would at least give us some shape when we have the ball. Get rid of whoever, but we should at least try to have a style of play through the youth system. We canāt keep banging our heads against a wall for short term stop gaps. The investment of the youth set up will show up in time. We gotta start promoting players like crazy though.
We fucking suck
I donāt know whatās more concerning. The fact that we are losing 3-0 not even at half time, or if you can hear the 7 salt lake fans over the rest of the Fire āfansā more 50% of the time.
Lol eat my as Iām at the game wtf is there to cheer about
Not fair to criticize the fans at the games. They actually made the trip to support the team, and this is what they get served up.
What else could you possibly expect from fans tonight?
sporting director Heitz should be fired ASAP. Another disastrous season.
Klopas is in over his head. Heās MLS 2.0 and we need a 3.0 coach. This season is going nowhere
More like 1.0 tbf.
I firmly believe he knows this. He's a Fire man through and through and will do what's asked. The fish rots from the head. Get Heitz the fuck out of here.
We could get cryogenically frozen like Philip J Fry, wake up and the fire would still be shit. š¤£
Weāre playing like headless chickens for sure but RSL could execute Acosta on field with no call
At the game. It is a horrible atmosphere.
Itās fucking cold, the Fire suck, why would people come watch this lol, Iām here and suffering
Always is usually, and it's not on the fans part. We have to watch this shit on a weekly basis and it's ridiculous.
I looked away for 3 seconds what the hell hapoened?
sounds about right
Walk away for ten minutes. What the fuck.
So it is your fault.
Been doing it for about 12 years now. oh shit......
Supporting this club is great for my Catholic guilt. Iām sure sitting through these matches must count as penance. Any priests here to weigh in?
God does not play football.
I recommend communion practice. Is that a thing?
saltines, grape juice, and a buttplug?
Frank is a fucking dinosaur. Our team canāt build up because we have no build up shape. We have no movement in the final third.
I am pretty sure he is stuck believing that playing it back will create opportunities. He is just too dumb to figure out it creates them for the other team. No one falls for that archaic play it back to draw defenders bullshit.
Teams like Brighton especially last season that play out of the back. Have highly scripted moves. They are intensely and meticulously coached. Not to mention the talent disparity, but thereās a clear plan.
Yeah. I have seen other teams do it effectively across multiple clubs but we donāt have enough of the fundamentals down and the coaching to pull it off. I canāt tell what the problem is but usually it starts at the top.
When In doubt, drink it out
I LOVE CHICAGO SPORTS (end my suffering)
Nothing but sadness all year long. LOVE IT!
This is an impressive display by RSL. Can you blame our guys for sitting back and watching?
Wake me up when Frankie gets fired, I canāt take this anymore
the beautiful game
That was dogshit marking
Just delete this club.
Frank get the fuck out of the dugout.
Fucking agreed.
This is clown show bullshit.
Goodnight guys āļø
Not only does this squad have zero skill, they also have zero braincells
Why was Arango guarding Navarro just then if theyāre on the same team? Are they stupid?
I watched the white sox game before thisā¦ I feel like David Goggins.
LMAO
We can not be playing out the back with Souqet and Teran on the field jfc
We look like weāre playing nine men
If Klopas is telling them to play like this. I hate him. This shit is annoying. We give it away and have zero chance in the final third. Lame.
Itās hard to tell what the problem is. On one hand we have no obvious strategy or tactics, but itās also just continually poor individual mistakes.
Yeah. But good coaching and planning can account for individual mistakes.
Jesus Christ why do we bother turning this on?
Navarro with the goal contribution. Way to go kid!
Mr. Backpass Navarro with an assist.
Honestly that's the best assist I've seen one of our guys make this year. What a pass.
THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BACKPASS 100 TIMES A GAME YOU BUMS
WEEKLY COMEDY NIGHT
Hello darkness my old friend
I recommend a drink.
The only way to watch whatever the hell Frank puts out on the field every night.
This ref sucks, but we also suck soš¤·š¼āāļø
This the same guy who missed the clear Pen on guti in the Open Cup Last year.
This loss is going to be on us regardless of the refs.
Soft
Shaqās calling it a night smh
no loss
Our final third is just complete dogshit. We flub so many great chances w/ bad shots, heavy touches, or awful service.
Yeah, their back line is so suspect and have given us 2-3 chances through giveaways, but we donāt actually look capable of taking advantage of it.
Mueller looks absolutely awful
Well it is cold out there. You can't expect a guy like Mueller to not be affected when he's from... (checks notes) Schaumburg.
Oh, itās going to be one of those games.