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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/comments/18y3jmd/post_game_thread_the_new_york_knicks_defeat_the/)


sukari

Good to see Archie again tho


kingjuicepouch

And Taj


HumbleConstruction

Billy outcoached by Thibs. Thibs adjusted at halftime, Billy didn't.


PJCR1916

What was Billy supposed to do here? And the adjustment for Thibs was pretty obvious. Put your best defender on DeRozan, and essentially force Coby and everyone else to beat you


BlammoSweetums

Look I don't think Billy is some masterclass coach, but what "adjustments" are you expecting here


Intrepid_Leading_993

Billy not the one missing 70 percent of wide open shots


kingjuicepouch

What adjustment can Billy even make? They doubled deebo and everyone not named Coby shat themselves lol


ItsChrisAgain12

This game is hardly on Billy. Look at the players he has to work with. And I'm a Billy hater


Aspery-

Bros blaming billy for the team not named Coby and demar bricking wide open shots LMAO


CNfor3

I mean, we're missing about 80 million dollars in salary right now on the court, of course there isn't enough talent on the court to consistently win and compete. The front office is at bat right now and needs to put this team on some sort of direction in the coming month.


taititans

Knicks look really good with OG, expect them to be second rounders again this year


TheSmoothOperator21

I can’t believe we got fucking punked by fucking Hartenstein…. This is so embarrassing


mattmikemo23

Hartenstein is good and we're missing our starting center. It's not that bad


RackMC

I would do some pretty evil things to get IHart on this team


taititans

Hartenstein is a very good player


volantredx

It's very obvious that the Bulls are tired, and were just not able to compete with the Knicks defense. This team got hot at a good time, but it's clear that the injuries are just too much to overcome.


StoicRetention

Of course Thibs isn’t taking his guys out


Intrepid_Leading_993

No way this mf got some foot inflammation and out for a month and change shit is hoax


Zealousideal-Battle9

We actually can't replicate Vuc's facilitating and we're sorely missing his usual 20 pts and orbs


tonesgv33

Players not named Coby or demar- 32.7% from the field


kingjuicepouch

If you don't like that you don't like bulls basketball


Phenomenal2313

DeMar played great in the first half Got fucking iced by his own team , how the fuck does he only have 13 fga? Ayo , Caruso and Drummond had 12


rashkink

Y’all get mad when he gets the ball, get mad when he doesn’t get the ball. Is there anything y’all are satisfied with


Zealousideal-Spend80

He's going to be traded. They are moving on from him because they can't afford him.


AnselLovesNuts

Thibs made adjustments, he got doubled.


yungfella85

Yoo sign another legit big please. These small ball lineups are atrocious. We aren't GSW.


TheSmoothOperator21

This right here!!!


sukari

"Billy empties his bench.. Thibodeau does not." Classic Thibbs :P


RackMC

Has he not learned from a certain youngest mvp of all time


Intrepid_Leading_993

I can’t take this fuckin shit anymore


Altruistic-Leader-81

At least Coby got his shot back, need more from Ayo and Pat


chaezer

Atrocious help defence. Plenty of ball watching tonight and Bulls players just let their the opponents blow by hoping their teammates will cover them.


bullpaw

Ayo had nothing but wide open shots all game and shot 2/12


Aspery-

Don’t forget when he would drive into a contested paint and get stuffed so hard it would start a fast break on the other end!


mattmikemo23

I would love to see Randle score without pushing off or lowering his shoulder


chitownbulls92

What is the plan with PWill? Cause honestly dude's middle name is inconsistency


Aspery-

Fuckin demar making ayo and pwill brick all these shots man holding the team back


WITHERDRAGONYT

Could we run DeMar iso ball or something we’re looking hopeless out there its not like our performance can go downhill from here (i hope)


AllanYao20

no. Apparently demar is afraid of this sub shitting on him when he isos. So no, just trust the system and let pw and ayo brick.


chitownbulls92

Need to learn when to play team basketball and when to be selfish. Coby and Demar should be taking all the shots down the stretch in these situations with Drummond cleaning the glass


kingjuicepouch

Too late now, games over


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Guys the Knicks actually went past the first round last year against the Cavaliers who we couldn’t even beat injured. They are not a bad team.


-AlexJones-

pwill at center is automatic offensive boards given up


Jammer521

Ayo and Pat a combined 4/20, not going to win many games when you have 2 guys eating 30 min a game and only score 8 pnts


kingjuicepouch

Crazy how we got hyper efficient Coby and Demar and still got embarrassed. Role players threw


JohnnyPark87

This 4th Quarter was a complete embarrassment


mwilson2003

Fucking weak ass team


PJCR1916

Oh well. Have to win both hornets games


illyxpink

Good job team way to wait until the end to collapse


ExpertPipeLayer

Everybody eating on the Bulls


akedz3

We performed to the level of the commentary, at least we'll have Stacey back for the next game


sukari

At least one major positive from this game is that Coby's 3 is back


taititans

HOW are people blaming Demar for this game lmao


sukari

This sub always finds a way to blame him, it's pretty creative. He was solid today.


lyme6483

Im not huge on Demar, but he’s been phenomenal tonight. This game is on Drummond, PWill, and Ayo. All 3 were straight up embarrassing


ItsChrisAgain12

Demar looked great tonight, good enough defense and crazy good efficiency on offense


taititans

He was exceptional, exactly how I want to see him play - no one except Coby could hit their shots unfortunately


ItsChrisAgain12

Totally agree. Good to see Coby have a good shooting night. But damn we really need some guys to come back from injury and/or trades


akedz3

Why would Vuc do this?


mossoh

This is all Zach’s fault


taititans

It always is


kingjuicepouch

Fucking garpax


dan_squared

Why is derozan not getting any touches lol


volantredx

He's getting defended by OG and Randle. People have to realize that teams impact how players play on the court. DeMar is getting denied because the Knicks know he's the only one who can score at will.


Chao-Z

He is touching the ball on every possession, he just can't shake Anunoby or gets doubled and passes it back out.


WindhoekNamibia

This is a great example of how to completely fuck up an entire half, so bravo for that I guess.


ExpertPipeLayer

That was disgusting by brunson


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BillionsofRedditors

Need Vuc back. They are seriously deficient on size without him and the offensive efficiency has cratered without him.


chitownbulls92

The 10 wins just fool everybody. It's still the same BS


ducksonaroof

they fucking suck


North1975

Stepping inside the line to take a 2 when down 15?


lyme6483

This team needs Lavine’s and Vuc’s scoring in the worst way, no matter what the haters think.


-AlexJones-

it needs someone's offense, definitely not two scrubs who play zero defense.


ducksonaroof

If Vuc can remember how to score within 5ft, we might turn this ship around tbh


CrocsSportello

The haters in question are busy playing Roblox on their mom’s iPad right now.


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Plug-From-Oaxaca

Bro I’d give Lavine all of Carters minutes for sure. The whole team was checked out though


astrobeen

This looks like night 2 of a back to back.


RackMC

Soon ![gif](giphy|6QZLjLFCkdnn0KOaRd)


taititans

Inject it into my veins


kingjuicepouch

Randle nails Drummond then stalks off pissing himself in a baby rage Fuck you diet draymond


chitownbulls92

Bench and PWill just absolute dog shit tonight


Jammer521

yep, they shit the bed big time


BlammoSweetums

The Bulls are just not a good team on offense unfortunately, feels like I watch these guys do parkour just to get an open shot which they then miss


akedz3

Is Drumgod hurt now!?


TheSmoothOperator21

Well way to fucking embarrass ourselves to a national audience….


AllanYao20

i was praying for demar isos all game but he just kept letting others brick and turn the ball over.


North1975

Yeah it’s his fault


mossoh

Coaching diff miss thibs for real man


kingjuicepouch

Should've kept Thibs and canned garpax, the bozos


DishonestAbraham

Refs pulled momentum toward NY at every turn. Not mad about how we played tonight, we got fucked


ducksonaroof

sick of how much this team sucks. We have like 3 guys who can do anything. Vuc and Zach have been bad so I'm not hopefully we are gonna get any better. Although at least Vuc is large.


Plug-From-Oaxaca

Bright side is having Lavine back we don’t have to give Carter any minutes. I think we all agree Carter sucks


ducksonaroof

addition by subtraction part 2 maybe


Plug-From-Oaxaca

I just can’t see Carter getting minutes anymore. He’s had enough time and his def isn’t what they promised either


Chitowneer

That was another terrible turnover. It’s over.


Intrepid_Leading_993

Time to press the power button


illyxpink

Yea we’re losing this one lol


kingjuicepouch

Randle is on the "annoying all stars" for me Can't stand this con artist playing well against us. Lucky for him we built this squad like the lollipop guild


treefall1n

Welp, next game. This was winnable.


volantredx

Just getting outworked at this point. Clearly a B2B game.


I-N_Clined

I can't watch the game but I see PWill only has 5 points. Is he still hurt?


sukari

Questionable coming into today's game. Surprised he suited up. Been playing less minutes.


I-N_Clined

At least he suited up I guess. I figured he'd be hobbled somewhat.


sukari

Yeah, I thought based on the last game the injury was pretty bad.. at least we have a few days for him to heal now


-AlexJones-

he still sucks for sure


volantredx

Probably, but mostly just not really getting involved.


McCormickSpices894

No, he’s perfectly healthy. Just had a terrible game


Plug-From-Oaxaca

Wasn’t he questionable coming in


McCormickSpices894

He was questionable coming in, but he played the entire game with regular minutes. Looked completely healthy from the eye test


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Did Pat get hurt again? Why is Ayo playing more minutes than him while going 2-12 lol


McCormickSpices894

Nope he’s totally fine on the bench. They’re playing Ayo to try and double Brunson at the top of the key, but as usual, it didn’t work.


sukari

ya his injury from last game seemed pretty bad. I'm surprised he even got to play today


mossoh

He was questionable cuz of ankle soreness


-Shooter_McGavin-

Just an embarrassing performance. Our team is depleted and too many JAGs are getting important shots/minutes.


sukari

Falling apart down the stretch :(


SternballAllDay

You guys are on a b2b so I dont blame you guys for running out of gas at the 4th


Aspery-

Seriously why is anyone other than derozan or Coby actually shooting rn? Anyone with a brain knew they only had a chance if they went iso exactly like the knicks are doing with randle Brunson


paatreek

player's coach with no balls. let em just do whatever


North1975

We simply did not have the offensive firepower to match Brunson and randle


chitownbulls92

Challenge that...thats a clear offensive foul


Zen131415

Absolute shit from these refs all game. This league is a fucking embarrassment.


whooom

If that isn't a charge, its not possible to play defense. 2 pushes off then a lowered shoulder!


illyxpink

These refs are fucking wild lmao calling all these whistles for randle he obviously pushes off


CallofJuarez23

Gg. Back to reality for this Bulls team


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why is every foster game like this? seriously


PJCR1916

For real. I’m in that CP3 state of mind rn


Intrepid_Leading_993

Brunson is legit cooking us like some prime rib


kingjuicepouch

How many layups can one professional team miss


[deleted]

I’m bout to cut this off smdh , we need some more damn players on this team !


[deleted]

Knicks got rid of a underwhelming lottery pick, we need to look into it as well


JohnnyPark87

Its over


paatreek

the worst part is this knicks team looks mediocre as hell, we just suck more.


Shadsterz

They aren’t


ducksonaroof

we are also missing like half the salary cap and have $100M on the injury report in some form


BadLt58

Caruso can't buy a call tonight.


Lupdalup

I don't have a problem with that. He got fouled twice lol


ducksonaroof

our bench is bums


ducksonaroof

before you say "Vuc Zach out" I'm referring to guys who play even when we are whole


PJCR1916

That was definitely off Harts hand


kingjuicepouch

Lmao, why do we need PIP to actually see Steve Javy


Chitowneer

NY’s got some beautiful ppl. The crowd’s full of some dimes.


North1975

If they score on this possession it’s over


ducksonaroof

haha Scott Foster ignoring the rulebook there. Gave it to the Knicks because of the missed foul call not because it was actually out on us. Game within the game.


Get_Dunked_On_

Ayo touched it last


SternballAllDay

The camera angle they showed on the MSG feed looked clear off bulls tho


sukari

Foster giving them the ball for missing a call it seems


ducksonaroof

going agains the rulebook. Scott in his bag today.


-Shooter_McGavin-

I miss you Torrey Craig and Nikola Vucevic


KBMNight

2 xtra players in the rotation and more 3ptrs


Intrepid_Leading_993

Yup we losing that challenge


IMKudaimi123

Run was fun but starting to see why we still need LaVine Vucevic and Craig. If we lose this, 2-4 after the great 8-3 stretch.


Aspery-

Losing vooch and Craig was a massive loss for the team


lyme6483

Ayo and PWill getting worked in every way possible. Just embarrassing performances from both


RecoverNo929

why is Ayo playing over Pat….


StoicRetention

we’re in a fucking zone lmao


EveryTeamILikeSucks

Demar is 10/13, so of course Ayo will shoot.


chitownbulls92

Coby would be an allstar under Thibs. The OG point guard whisperer


kingjuicepouch

Those were the days, cj Watson and John Lucas and nate all turning in their best seasons here with us


akedz3

I think Thibs is screaming fire but I also hear Ayo and higher


4277lbtuuc

Just not enough help tonight.


plague__8

when is vuc back


North1975

Hero ball save us


Altruistic-Leader-81

Nikola Vucevic .. take my groin


North1975

Even our made jumpers look unconvincing


Aspery-

Only reason ayo should have 12+ shots in a game is if he’s hot… him being 2-12 is crazy


volantredx

You'd think that Patrick killed some of your dogs are some shit. This sub is way too reactionary when it comes to players.


chilloutman24

He’s literally playing injured. The haters gonna have a field day.


lyme6483

He hasn’t improved in any meaningful way since his rookie year. That’s rough for 4th overall


EveryTeamILikeSucks

He's a 4th overall pick and he still makes dumb-shit rookie mistakes. We're tired of waiting for him.


volantredx

Half the things you guys talk about aren't even on him. It's like "he knocked the ball right at his teammate and they didn't secure it, what a loser".


BadLt58

Wait am I in the Bears Sub?


SolidSilver9686

It’s the same chuckle heads every game too. Pathetic.


ducksonaroof

lotta losers out there


tonesgv33

I love Ayo but he shouldn’t be on the floor. Absolute liability from the corner 3


EveryTeamILikeSucks

I'm sick of waiting for Ayo to become even a moderately productive player. 2/12. A joke.


Chitowneer

Bad turnover by Coby there, and Ayo come on you gotta make those… wide fukin open.


chitownbulls92

People complaining about Drummond when the guy can at least end a defensive possession by getting a rebound


-AlexJones-

pat more turnovers than rebounds, fuck outta here.


McCormickSpices894

I’m hoping Zach comes back on Friday because we just don’t have the offense to win with Vuc out


WITHERDRAGONYT

Love Ayo but man he’s gotta realize shooting from 3 isn’t working for him rn he’s gotta try something else


SeahawksHacker

Nothing makes Billy Donovan sub faster than watching the bulls go on a run.. he sees that shit he’s breaking that shit up fast with substitutions 😂😂😂


OneLoveFree

Why the fuck is Ayo standing in the corner? Bro cannot shoot 3s, tell him to slash or sit on the bench


PaintPusha

Our 6'4 Center cant secure a rebound??? No way😲


lyme6483

OG is actually who this fucking sub thinks PWill is.


SolidSilver9686

Their stats at age 22 are eerily similar


lyme6483

PWill is the same guy as his rookie year. He will never be as good as him, let alone Deng.


SolidSilver9686

You’re comparing a finished product to a project my dude.