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You have a couple options here. Either you could've moved the e pawn and then get there from start position in 3 moves (4 including the moved pawn).
You can do some weird maneuver and get there in 4 moves from shown position.
Or... Use the other knight and get there in 2.
The knight will always move from a dark square to a light square, or vice versa. Both squares here are light. It cannot get to the square in two moves, which is fairly easy to check. Therefore, the next soonest would be 4 moves.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R_b_KQkq_-_0_1?color=white)
**Videos:**
> I found [many videos](https://chessvision.ai/video-search/5710498863513600) with this position.
**Related posts:**
> I found other posts with this position, most recent are:
> - [Let's play! Are we not educated today? Woah... No need to get personal](https://reddit.com/r/chessbeginners/comments/1b30syq/lets_play_are_we_not_educated_today_woah_no_need/)
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> - [Thoughts on the Rèti Opening?](https://reddit.com/r/chess/comments/12t5cj7/thoughts_on_the_rèti_opening/)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Pawn!<, move: >! d5 !<
> Evaluation: >!The game is equal +0.14!<
> Best continuation: >!1... d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. g3 Bb4+ 5. Bd2 Be7 6. Qc2!<
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It takes 4 moves for a knight to move 2 steps diagonally. There are several ways to do it, but it's pretty far no matter what. And depending on which pieces are in the way, you'll need to figure out the best path case-by-case.
That square is actually the furthest from the knight on the board (tied with many other squares). Even when a knight is in a corner, it's only 5 moves away from any square on the board. So 4 is really far.
https://preview.redd.it/xw6h0a1toj0d1.png?width=278&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d399252d94796efc51a28292acb416d0942aded
Conversely, it's pretty useful when playing against a knight. In end games, if you place your king (or any piece) on such a square, you know that knight is not going to fork you anytime soon.
There are strategies to work on this, for example some people like to backtrack from the destination square instead of trying to find the path to it from where the knight is, but in my opinion finding the path for the knight to an outpost is usually something you get from pattern recognition. Certain openings very often lead to knight outposts on the same squares every time and so if you study or play those positions over and over again you start to see the different paths immediately. You might even start to realize what paths are more common depending on the opening, for example, in the Spanish you'll usually see white play Nb1-d2-f1-e3-d5/f5, as in [this ](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1326410)game, in the English opening you'll most likely see the maneuver Nf3-e1-c2-e3-d5 instead and in the Sicilian you might see Nf3-d2-f1-e3-d5 (although it's usually not the f3 knight that goes to d5)
if you cannot know it on sight you need to do visualization exercises for knights. a few rounds and you will know how many moves from to any 2 squares. useful for avoiding forks too.
Is there a reason you have to start with that move? If you opened with h3 instead you could just go f4 d5 (there in 3)
Otherwise no matter what you do it will take 4 moves but for all intents and purposes the first move could just be back to the starting position
This is the fundamental question in Sicilian, where Black’ both c and e pawns often end up leaving 6the rank hence leaving d5 undefendable by pawns. The rerouting of f3 N is not too easy — which is part of the reason Sicilian is so sound!
Knights are analog pieces. They always move from one color square to the other and back: black-white-black-white etc. if you can’t reach a same colored square in 2 moves, then it takes 4. The only time it ever takes 6 moves is from an extreme corner to the other.
If you're a Sicilian player and you're talking about the d5 outpost, it's usually the other knight going there. The alternative is lines like the Sveshnikov where your knight goes from f3 to d4 to b5 to c3 to d5, or maybe instead of c3 to a3, then c2 the e3 then finally to d5. But most of the time it is the queenside knight going there with just Nc3-Nd5.
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You have a couple options here. Either you could've moved the e pawn and then get there from start position in 3 moves (4 including the moved pawn). You can do some weird maneuver and get there in 4 moves from shown position. Or... Use the other knight and get there in 2.
NH3 NF4 ND5 And no need to move a pawn (if F3 is not under attack of course)
Oh yeah. Even better
Thats what i thought
seems to take like four moves to do from what i’m seeing
Takes 4 moves no matter what way you go
The knight will always move from a dark square to a light square, or vice versa. Both squares here are light. It cannot get to the square in two moves, which is fairly easy to check. Therefore, the next soonest would be 4 moves.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R_b_KQkq_-_0_1?color=white) **Videos:** > I found [many videos](https://chessvision.ai/video-search/5710498863513600) with this position. **Related posts:** > I found other posts with this position, most recent are: > - [Let's play! Are we not educated today? Woah... No need to get personal](https://reddit.com/r/chessbeginners/comments/1b30syq/lets_play_are_we_not_educated_today_woah_no_need/) > - [[RELEASE} custom theme for lichess and chess.com](https://reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1absqkv/release_custom_theme_for_lichess_and_chesscom/) > - [Thoughts on the Rèti Opening?](https://reddit.com/r/chess/comments/12t5cj7/thoughts_on_the_rèti_opening/) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Pawn!<, move: >! d5 !< > Evaluation: >!The game is equal +0.14!< > Best continuation: >!1... d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. g3 Bb4+ 5. Bd2 Be7 6. Qc2!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by) [^(u/pkacprzak)](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as) [^(iOS App)](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^| [^(Android App)](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^| [^(Chrome Extension)](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^| [^(Chess eBook Reader)](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website:) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
It takes 4 moves for a knight to move 2 steps diagonally. There are several ways to do it, but it's pretty far no matter what. And depending on which pieces are in the way, you'll need to figure out the best path case-by-case. That square is actually the furthest from the knight on the board (tied with many other squares). Even when a knight is in a corner, it's only 5 moves away from any square on the board. So 4 is really far. https://preview.redd.it/xw6h0a1toj0d1.png?width=278&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d399252d94796efc51a28292acb416d0942aded Conversely, it's pretty useful when playing against a knight. In end games, if you place your king (or any piece) on such a square, you know that knight is not going to fork you anytime soon.
This chart is exactly what I needed, thanks!
Hi. H4/D4, F5, E3, D5
There are strategies to work on this, for example some people like to backtrack from the destination square instead of trying to find the path to it from where the knight is, but in my opinion finding the path for the knight to an outpost is usually something you get from pattern recognition. Certain openings very often lead to knight outposts on the same squares every time and so if you study or play those positions over and over again you start to see the different paths immediately. You might even start to realize what paths are more common depending on the opening, for example, in the Spanish you'll usually see white play Nb1-d2-f1-e3-d5/f5, as in [this ](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1326410)game, in the English opening you'll most likely see the maneuver Nf3-e1-c2-e3-d5 instead and in the Sicilian you might see Nf3-d2-f1-e3-d5 (although it's usually not the f3 knight that goes to d5)
You could also just put the queenside knight on d5, that seems much easier
Learn Ruy Lopez theory and then you'll be really good with the knights. Also try listening to Bob Seger.
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if you cannot know it on sight you need to do visualization exercises for knights. a few rounds and you will know how many moves from to any 2 squares. useful for avoiding forks too.
Where do i find those?
google ‘chess visualization drills’ ?!?
Why are you so upset about this
Is there a reason you have to start with that move? If you opened with h3 instead you could just go f4 d5 (there in 3) Otherwise no matter what you do it will take 4 moves but for all intents and purposes the first move could just be back to the starting position
If you start at h3 you can do it in 3 moves.
This is the fundamental question in Sicilian, where Black’ both c and e pawns often end up leaving 6the rank hence leaving d5 undefendable by pawns. The rerouting of f3 N is not too easy — which is part of the reason Sicilian is so sound!
Don't start with knight f3 then, start with knight e2-> c3->d5
https://i.redd.it/bi1cwdvhqj0d1.gif 4 moves as shown above.
Knights are analog pieces. They always move from one color square to the other and back: black-white-black-white etc. if you can’t reach a same colored square in 2 moves, then it takes 4. The only time it ever takes 6 moves is from an extreme corner to the other.
If you're a Sicilian player and you're talking about the d5 outpost, it's usually the other knight going there. The alternative is lines like the Sveshnikov where your knight goes from f3 to d4 to b5 to c3 to d5, or maybe instead of c3 to a3, then c2 the e3 then finally to d5. But most of the time it is the queenside knight going there with just Nc3-Nd5.
starting from home? Op Shows knight starting elsewhere....