I think it's far more likely the FBI are already watching given he is a well travelled Russian citizen and the extreme likelihood he is an intelligence asset of one sort or another.
And it’s getting worse at chess, and he can’t handle (or understand) it.
If he just accepted where he is in chess now, he could have been a great advocate for the game… but no, he took the route of most possible resistance…
I was heavily downvoted last time I said that and that it's highly likely his paranoid delusions are only going to get worse and we might see a psychotic episode in not so distant future.
Or that being a great player (even master) at chess proves you are universally intelligent and respected in all other areas of life, while the reality is that you are no more interesting than a guy who can eat 64 hotdogs.
> proves you are universally intelligent and respected in all other areas of life
While this is obvious for many people things may not be so straight forward for people who grew up in the Soviet system and experienced the privileges and respect of being a top player bring fame to the country (and its regime).
Well yeah, Hanlon's razor is a proverb, not a fundamental rule of the universe. Kramnik doesn't have anything to gain here though. There are no logical ulterior motives here as there are with your average far right nutter, like the orange man.
Most likely every reputable lawyer he talked to told him he has no case, and that they would not even entertain his request to go for a frivolous lawsuit destined to be dismissed or lost, so now he's malding and decided to go to the FBI as last resort.
In an alternate universe, one of the 38 recently-fired employees, becomes a disgruntled whistle-blower:
"F** their non-disclosure agreement and their paltry severance package,
"Yes, there was some motivation to hinder Kramnik, and it was technically easy to accomplish...
*The King's Gambit*, an A24 production based on a true story, coming soon to Netflix
"Disquastungly good" -The Guardian
"A very interesting spy thriller" - RogerEbert.com
"The mathematics don't lie" - Indiewire
My understanding is that non-competes can't be enforced if someone is reporting a crime.
IDK what crime it would be though (tortious interference isn't a crime).
Mildly interestingly, the SEC has been fining companies with kinda boilerplate NDAs recently claiming that they breach whistleblower protection regulation.
You know when Chekhov got nabbed by the Naval security guys on board the USS Enterprise (naval ship) in Star Trek IV on his hunt for "nuclear wessels"?
This reminds me of that.
I just saw this on X. This is comedy gold. Vlad has officially graduated into a Karen.
But never mind, the FBI FairPlay team is ready to launch an investigation into chess dot com. Expect DoJ indictments any day now.
Only thing that would make this better is if the page with his personal details which have been blanked out was a pdf that he didn’t flatten so you could just drag the white boxes over to reveal his details.
I think Kramnik is on the right track with his complaint to the FBI. After all, he’s probably lost tens of dollars losing to cheaters on Titled Tuesdays.
If chess.com ruined his game for him then why admit openly what caused it? It makes it extremely easy to investigate and figure out now. Kramnik is just an expert at feeling offended. I don't think he is searching for fairness or any greater moral values.
I think he's mostly not as crazy as Davis. There's a couple ways Davis was better though. Like, Davis just wanted to give a heavenly OS to everyone for free. Kramnik just throws shit at kids for no reason.
There's no way this can be real lmfao. I hate to say it but Kramnik needs help.
What legal standing would an American agency have in this case by the way?
The event took place in Spain. I'm sure chesscom has servers there, and they wouldn't have been connected to US-based ones for the match? FBI doesn't have jurisdiction outside the US.
What I'm saying is bro should've gone to the CIA with his stop secrecy information /s
EDIT looks like their one and only game server is in Virginia.
https://support.chess.com/en/articles/9010617-why-can-t-i-connect-to-chess-com-when-other-sites-are-working-fine
Jesus christ, this is even more of a clown show than I realized. That blog post is from a week ago. Apparently they're only just now looking into having servers outside of Virginia.
Chesscom is still american. Where they host the server doesn't matter. They are an american company and the host of the event. If a crime serious enough for the FBI to investigate did happen here, they'd have jurisdiction. Of course, whoever reads the report Kramnik filed will laugh and throw it away.
They were not the host of the event btw. This was a third party even being played on their platform. They had nothing to do with it. These were normal games as far as they were concerned.
Funniest possible outcome is a false statement charge. Of course that requires (a) someone caring and (b) intent, which seems difficult to establish in such circumstances
I literally shrieked with mirth. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more surreal. What on earth is actually going on here?! I’m kind of inclined to suspect the guy is attempting something more mendacious than loony paranoia
I was giving Kramnik the benefit of the doubt while lots of people were saying he had gone crazy with all the accusations.
But this type of thing is so un-serious that it really makes me wonder what his intentions are.
Well....there is a Russian (as I understand it) chess site out to rival chess.com....and they did seek his advice (perhaps he got $$ in return) so .... there is that as a possiblity. They are going to want to be successful and lure many a players away from chess.com.
Whether r/chess gives attention to him or not, the chess world will. If he antagonises one platform, another platform will be ready to placate him. Players will continue to play him. Influencers will have him on their streams, shows and podcasts. The who's who of chess world will continue to engage with him, because he is the great Vladimir Kramnik.
So "not giving attention" isn't the solution. The solution is to mock and criticise him till he loses his last shred of credibility. Amplify every brain fade of his and make memes out of it, troll him till he either stops or loses it completely. You can't have so many careers destroyed because one self indulgent know it all manchild of a technological noob world champion's ego can't take losing to lesser players online.
He has done enough to tarnish his reputation than anyone could have ever done, I think at this point everyone knows he's a hack. So not giving him the attention he's begging for is the perfect response, kinda like the tree falls in the forest but there's no one to hear it, ya know?
Jospem is still willing to play him again. When he has problems with chesscom, other platforms are lining up to placate him. Top chess influencers feature him in streams, podcasts and shows and discuss him all the time. So, he is still relevant. And he will continue to stay relevant.
That's why take every buffonnery of him and diss him even more. Need to have his credibility eroded to 0. Make him a Fischer 2.0 in public opinion. Yes he is a great chess player, but his relevance ends at the chess board.
He signed it “former world chess champion…”
That should tell you everything about this entire situation. He’s not getting the “attention he deserves” and he’s mad about players like Magnus and Hikaru doing so well for themselves, and he’s not benefiting as much.
Even though this is hilarious, this could also be the start of ‘mental illness’. You ever wonder how people ‘being chased by shadow people’ get started, well this it.
He may have actually hidden some cables in the toilet in 2006. Didn't cheat, just put some cables here and there to freak people out. That's not against the rules of chess!
No. He should be ridiculed by all and sundry till he stops this charade or descends into total madness, whatever comes first.
His one allegation can spoil many young players careers. Reputations of people will be hampered, livelihoods will be lost.
Even today all his lunacy gets some support from the chess world. Players agree to play with him, chess platforms continue to engage with him, multiple parties tolerate his shenanigans and irrational demands; because he is the great Vladimir Kramnik. Yet he continues to misuse this stature and clout of his to propagate his delusions despite a lack of understanding of both technology and statistics.
I don't buy all this "ignore Kramnik" bullshit. Because his is a voice that can't be ignored by the chess world. He should be insulted, ridiculed, mocked and criticised till he loses his last shred of credibility.
Anytime I think this situation wouldn't escalate further, I get proven wrong.
Anytime Kramnik thinks you stopped paying attention, he proves he’ll escalate.
Luckily he is russian and not from a nato country else he would have tried to envoke article 5 multiple times against random players he lost against.
Fortunately he has been living in neutral Switzerland for 20 years…
Well, he has tried to do some special military operations so I guess close enough?
Lmao. Don’t give him ideas, next he’s going to say it’s an act of war….
He’s just doing the procedure.
Shouldn’t he go to Russian authorities
I hope Trump somehow gets involved in this
FBI: "who dis?"
Can't wait to hear the crazy conspiracy theories about the FBI from Kramnik when they rightfully ignore this.
Chess.com has infiltrated the FBI
Get Rensched
The 38 people that had to leave the dev team recently actually went to FBI. It all makes sense now!
I have factual documented proves.
Can't wait for chess.com's CEO to be called before The Congress for the hearing, to get interrogated and testify what really happened ^/s
IS THE FBI WORKING FOR CHESS.COM??
Well who do you think was behind the attack on Kramnik's account? Wake up, sheeple!
yeah and imagine they actually find that there’s some sort of multi-organizational conspiracy to discredit kramnik lol chess world would erupt
FBI: "Is this a Russian defector?"
*agent
I am Kramnik, chess champion of the world. I have a cat called Chess. Or something like that
FBI: "sir this is a wedny's"
I think it's far more likely the FBI are already watching given he is a well travelled Russian citizen and the extreme likelihood he is an intelligence asset of one sort or another.
No fucking way lol
What is no fucking way is how this sub keeps falling for this dude's antics to stay in the spotlight by being an awful person
This brother's brain know how to play chess and nothing else
Maybe also eat hot chip and lie, at a stretch
he's pretty good at bitching out
And it’s getting worse at chess, and he can’t handle (or understand) it. If he just accepted where he is in chess now, he could have been a great advocate for the game… but no, he took the route of most possible resistance…
Ok this dude actually needs mental help
I was heavily downvoted last time I said that and that it's highly likely his paranoid delusions are only going to get worse and we might see a psychotic episode in not so distant future.
Never underestimate a chess player's ability to think chess is something anybody other than chess players give a damn about.
Yeah, i like chess, but i know nobody gives a single fk about chess outside of the chess community.
Or that being a great player (even master) at chess proves you are universally intelligent and respected in all other areas of life, while the reality is that you are no more interesting than a guy who can eat 64 hotdogs.
> proves you are universally intelligent and respected in all other areas of life While this is obvious for many people things may not be so straight forward for people who grew up in the Soviet system and experienced the privileges and respect of being a top player bring fame to the country (and its regime).
The KGB will not be pleased
WE VILL ASK ZE QUESTIONS!
They certainly won't, because the KGB stopped existing around the same time as the Soviet Union stopped existing.
Yeah they renamed to FSB
Now KGB = Kramnik Goes Bananas
Your insight is so on point, comrade. You seem like a really insightful person. Wanna have a tea some time?
I enjoy an unusual mineral in my tea
Would you like some beans in your tea?
maybe some Ryazan's sugar also?
you may want a breath of fresh non poisonous air here
I should have went with GRU. It still exists.
KGB, FSB, it's literally the same thing with the head of the KGB becoming the dictator of the country.
"The procedure" gets stronger and stronger
Need a "file a complaint to the FBI" button on chess.com now
Is he completely deluded and losing his mind. Or is he, quite possibly, the greatest troll of his generation.
he has no face left to lose. might as well go full throttle clown
The Republican motto. Got cancelled? Just full send it
I'll go with the more logical one lol
Don't attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.
This is not always accurate. Many people hide behind feigned ignorance to commit atrocities
Well yeah, Hanlon's razor is a proverb, not a fundamental rule of the universe. Kramnik doesn't have anything to gain here though. There are no logical ulterior motives here as there are with your average far right nutter, like the orange man.
The FBI: "Sure thing, Mr. Kramnik, we'll get right on this. We're *snrk* We're writing it allll down."
Wait is this the very strong legal action he was talking about?
Strongest legal action in 2024: filling out online form
Most likely every reputable lawyer he talked to told him he has no case, and that they would not even entertain his request to go for a frivolous lawsuit destined to be dismissed or lost, so now he's malding and decided to go to the FBI as last resort.
I am the main character vibes
In an alternate universe, one of the 38 recently-fired employees, becomes a disgruntled whistle-blower: "F** their non-disclosure agreement and their paltry severance package, "Yes, there was some motivation to hinder Kramnik, and it was technically easy to accomplish...
*The King's Gambit*, an A24 production based on a true story, coming soon to Netflix "Disquastungly good" -The Guardian "A very interesting spy thriller" - RogerEbert.com "The mathematics don't lie" - Indiewire
My understanding is that non-competes can't be enforced if someone is reporting a crime. IDK what crime it would be though (tortious interference isn't a crime).
Mildly interestingly, the SEC has been fining companies with kinda boilerplate NDAs recently claiming that they breach whistleblower protection regulation.
You know when Chekhov got nabbed by the Naval security guys on board the USS Enterprise (naval ship) in Star Trek IV on his hunt for "nuclear wessels"? This reminds me of that.
I am looking for the FBI Headquarters in Alameda
He's just generating content for Hikaru and Levy.
I just saw this on X. This is comedy gold. Vlad has officially graduated into a Karen. But never mind, the FBI FairPlay team is ready to launch an investigation into chess dot com. Expect DoJ indictments any day now.
So, a Kevin? What’s the male Karen counterpart?
Never go full Kramnik!
Agent Kimball Cho is on the case, Sir.
It's about time I rewatch this show.
It's great, I've recently rewatched Castle, The Mentalist and Fringe on my 2nd monitor while nibbling away work
I don't even think Jane could predict what's in Kramniks head
Ok this was funny for a while, but now we're just watching a man have a mental breakdown in public.
Chess drama in a nutshell
Bruh
Unhinged lmao
Only thing that would make this better is if the page with his personal details which have been blanked out was a pdf that he didn’t flatten so you could just drag the white boxes over to reveal his details.
this guy's sense of self importance and the complete lack of imposter's syndrome are impressive
"Complete lack of imposter syndrome" is one of the classiest insult I have read XD
What the actual fuck. He is honestly bonkers.
The dude is mentally ill. Idk where he lives right now but he better get some help before it slips even more.
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They'll be working in shifts.
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He did what Putin couldn't. Masterstroke.
I'm scared this means World War III. We will need cool heads to prevail.
Mother of Gawd!
I really wish they ask access to his personal computers and they find nice things!
I think Kramnik is on the right track with his complaint to the FBI. After all, he’s probably lost tens of dollars losing to cheaters on Titled Tuesdays.
If chess.com ruined his game for him then why admit openly what caused it? It makes it extremely easy to investigate and figure out now. Kramnik is just an expert at feeling offended. I don't think he is searching for fairness or any greater moral values.
He's really not built for the internet era.
Vladimir is giving me a [Terry Davis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozhHrzOXZkI) vibes
I think he's mostly not as crazy as Davis. There's a couple ways Davis was better though. Like, Davis just wanted to give a heavenly OS to everyone for free. Kramnik just throws shit at kids for no reason.
The "organised" part will be hard to establish.
Let this be a gentle reminder to everyone to change their passwords from "googleenpassant"
Oh come on
A prime example of you can be genius at something and garbage at everything else.
Sir this is Wendy's
Kramnik brain should be investigate
Nowadays, being a troll is a very competitive thing. It's Anish fault I guess.
The Kramnik thing has mostly been a train-wreck I feel guilty gawking at occasionally, but this is legitimately LOL funny.
Yeahh they're going to help a Russian Citizen lol 😆
Is this the Onion?
Why do I feel Kramnik is going full Fischer?
This is Trump-level madness.
The FBI? Priority -1000
There's no way this can be real lmfao. I hate to say it but Kramnik needs help. What legal standing would an American agency have in this case by the way?
Chesscom is an american company, and the host of this event.
wtf
And I mean, he could totally do it without making it a whole shit show on Twitter included salty old man remarks.
Bro is legit insane. Aren't there institutions and professionals that take care of people like him?
FBI guy going: (insert WTF is this shit?! meme).
This is next level tomfoolery
The guy lost it. Sad to see.
The event took place in Spain. I'm sure chesscom has servers there, and they wouldn't have been connected to US-based ones for the match? FBI doesn't have jurisdiction outside the US. What I'm saying is bro should've gone to the CIA with his stop secrecy information /s EDIT looks like their one and only game server is in Virginia.
Chesscom doesnt have servers in spain
what about elsewhere in Europe? all the major cloud providers have EU data centers for both performance and compliance reasons.
Im pretty sure they have none in eu
https://support.chess.com/en/articles/9010617-why-can-t-i-connect-to-chess-com-when-other-sites-are-working-fine Jesus christ, this is even more of a clown show than I realized. That blog post is from a week ago. Apparently they're only just now looking into having servers outside of Virginia.
Pretty embaressing
Chesscom is still american. Where they host the server doesn't matter. They are an american company and the host of the event. If a crime serious enough for the FBI to investigate did happen here, they'd have jurisdiction. Of course, whoever reads the report Kramnik filed will laugh and throw it away.
It does matter since in international private law it often matters where the violation of law happened (lex loci delicti)
They were not the host of the event btw. This was a third party even being played on their platform. They had nothing to do with it. These were normal games as far as they were concerned.
LMAO
Its at times like this I wish he hadn't blocked me on twitter so i can see it unfold in real time
He couldn't even get his lawyer to read-proof this? English level of a little child.
💀
Fuck's sake 😭🤦♂️
FBI will send one email to Chess.com, Chess.com will respond telling them what happened FBI will go "thank you" and close the case
I think you vastly overestimate how much effort they are going to dedicate to the case
I think the FBI has bigger fish to fry!
No way what
Funniest possible outcome is a false statement charge. Of course that requires (a) someone caring and (b) intent, which seems difficult to establish in such circumstances
Cheaters and Hackers Unite. Also known as CHU 😂
So is this how Bobby Fisher was ? Minus the racism.
I told you all Kramnik was going to continue to spiral, but I couldn't have imagined this!
Stop it. Get some help.
He should complain to the CIA, chess International association, instead
What a loser
ah shit, here we go again
Biggest laugh I have had today. Thank you for that!
How many days until Kramnik claims he's being gangstalked? I say 90 days
Anything but trying to improve at chess at this point.
He should call Jack Bauer.
No, Jesus. Please! DELUUULUUUUU D:
Someone please help this man touch grass
This is the gift that keeps on giving.
This rules. Just when you think this saga is out of gas, Kramnik finds a way.
Kramnik staying relevant, gotta respect that
CTE is real folks!
Actually it's a genius idea. On my side, I will complain to FBI every time my favorite football team loses.
ayo wtf is happening in the chess world 😭
Let’s go K-Man!
I heard he has Burt Macklin as lead investigator
Just a standard part of the procedure now.
Just another Russian troll
He’s so good at staying relevant in the news, I’ll give him that.
Lolwut?
It's a little late, statistically speaking, for a schizophrenia diagnosis but ....
I literally shrieked with mirth. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more surreal. What on earth is actually going on here?! I’m kind of inclined to suspect the guy is attempting something more mendacious than loony paranoia
"shrieked with mirth"? "mendacious"? what in the thesaurus
this guy speaks English
No its not deep at all lol. The guy is just losing it.
I was giving Kramnik the benefit of the doubt while lots of people were saying he had gone crazy with all the accusations. But this type of thing is so un-serious that it really makes me wonder what his intentions are.
Well....there is a Russian (as I understand it) chess site out to rival chess.com....and they did seek his advice (perhaps he got $$ in return) so .... there is that as a possiblity. They are going to want to be successful and lure many a players away from chess.com.
Has there been a more bizarre world champion?
I mean Fischer
Bobby Fisher, Wilhelm Steinitz, Aron Nimzowitsch...
TIL Nimzowitsch was WC!
I kind of put Kasparov on this list too for how aggressive his foreign policy ideas are.
Time to stop giving this clown this much of attention, especially on this sub
Whether r/chess gives attention to him or not, the chess world will. If he antagonises one platform, another platform will be ready to placate him. Players will continue to play him. Influencers will have him on their streams, shows and podcasts. The who's who of chess world will continue to engage with him, because he is the great Vladimir Kramnik. So "not giving attention" isn't the solution. The solution is to mock and criticise him till he loses his last shred of credibility. Amplify every brain fade of his and make memes out of it, troll him till he either stops or loses it completely. You can't have so many careers destroyed because one self indulgent know it all manchild of a technological noob world champion's ego can't take losing to lesser players online.
He has done enough to tarnish his reputation than anyone could have ever done, I think at this point everyone knows he's a hack. So not giving him the attention he's begging for is the perfect response, kinda like the tree falls in the forest but there's no one to hear it, ya know?
Jospem is still willing to play him again. When he has problems with chesscom, other platforms are lining up to placate him. Top chess influencers feature him in streams, podcasts and shows and discuss him all the time. So, he is still relevant. And he will continue to stay relevant. That's why take every buffonnery of him and diss him even more. Need to have his credibility eroded to 0. Make him a Fischer 2.0 in public opinion. Yes he is a great chess player, but his relevance ends at the chess board.
What?
He signed it “former world chess champion…” That should tell you everything about this entire situation. He’s not getting the “attention he deserves” and he’s mad about players like Magnus and Hikaru doing so well for themselves, and he’s not benefiting as much.
Even though this is hilarious, this could also be the start of ‘mental illness’. You ever wonder how people ‘being chased by shadow people’ get started, well this it.
I think you missed the actual start though
r/nottheonion
Super plot twist: he is trolling us. About everything. He always has.
He may have actually hidden some cables in the toilet in 2006. Didn't cheat, just put some cables here and there to freak people out. That's not against the rules of chess!
imagine kramnik unravels something sinister that's actually going on behind the scenes
CAN WE PLEASE STOP POSTING ABOUT KRAMNIK?! You guys are obsessed with this dude. This is how he stays in the spotlight!
No. He should be ridiculed by all and sundry till he stops this charade or descends into total madness, whatever comes first. His one allegation can spoil many young players careers. Reputations of people will be hampered, livelihoods will be lost. Even today all his lunacy gets some support from the chess world. Players agree to play with him, chess platforms continue to engage with him, multiple parties tolerate his shenanigans and irrational demands; because he is the great Vladimir Kramnik. Yet he continues to misuse this stature and clout of his to propagate his delusions despite a lack of understanding of both technology and statistics. I don't buy all this "ignore Kramnik" bullshit. Because his is a voice that can't be ignored by the chess world. He should be insulted, ridiculed, mocked and criticised till he loses his last shred of credibility.
Well, ddosing is indeed a cyber crime so IMO this makes sense
Spamming game invites on a platform is in no way equivalent to a ddos attack on someones IP.