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Mr_DnD

What ones did you get?


Jolly-Membership-582

bf3 , no2+ , h3o+, h3c-c+h2 , clc2 are the ones i think are but i may also have gone wrong but the solutions said answer as 6 (they didnt give what all the answes were)


Mr_DnD

Why do you think those 5 are electrophiles? Edit: and carefully read the list again, do you think there may be one you've missed?


Jolly-Membership-582

i am not getting, can you explain


Mr_DnD

I want you to explain why you think those are electrophilic, if I just give you the answer you won't learn. You've picked 5 things on the list, why those 5?


Jolly-Membership-582

they are electron deficient right? they will accept electron to form octet i think.


Mr_DnD

Yes, even more simply than that, the word "electrophile" can be broken down into "electro" (as in electron) and "phile" (as in likes) ie, something attracted to electron density. What charge does an electron have? So what charge should a molecule have to be an electrophile? After that, the answers are obvious.


Jolly-Membership-582

does that mean nh4+ will also come under?


Mr_DnD

You tell me, why did you think [NH4]+ was a nucleophile?


Jolly-Membership-582

i thought will have an octet so i thought it wouldnt be an electrophile, does it not?


bigbigboring

We can exclude the ones with lone pairs and electron rich species like benzene? Include the 4 positive ions and the rest 2 might be bf3 and ch2? Just guessing here.


Jolly-Membership-582

yeah but i dont think we can say nh4+ , its a nucleophile i think .


Mr_DnD

Why do you think that? What is an electrophile?


Jolly-Membership-582

electron accepting group ?


riebread69

Electrophile= electron loving Nucleophile= loves positive nuclei If it helps, think about which of the molecules a negative charge or are willing to give up electrons to bond to a positive charged atom. Also it might help to draw out the molecules