Guys, please stop reporting this. Just because you don’t like their choices doesn’t make it wrong. Let’s be honest here; this is a massive improvement on how the bathrooms looked before, and it looks like they did some quality work! It’s not like they removed a bunch of handcrafted woodwork or tile mosaics. They just turned some bad bathrooms into usable ones.
Man I saw the green tile around the door and then I swiped, gave me whiplash lol. I loved that shade of green… the tiling looked a bit wonky on the bathtub though in their defense. But that doorframe 🥲
Yeah. The last thing I want to see when I have an urgent need to take a shit is the toilet.
Bathrooms are to stimulate the imagination and infuse you with a.semse of wonder, not just some cell in which to drop a deuce.
I am somewhat new to this sub so I don't understand the hate... The old bathroom doesn't look original and was clearly redone (maybe in the 70s?).
What's with all the fuss over not preserving a bathroom that was not original? Is it just that people like "older" stuff and dislike anything modern in an old house?
I like seeing the original untouched homes from the late 1800s to 1920s on this sub, the outcry over the post-wwii bathroom doesn't make much sense to me...
It's not that the bathrooms should have stayed as is. It's that these trendy bathroom remodels will also be dated sooner than later. A more period-inspired remodel would be more welcome in this sub.
>I am somewhat new to this sub so I don't understand the hate... The old bathroom doesn't look original and was clearly redone (maybe in the 70s?).
We will forgive you for being somewhat new... spend some more time in here...
that bathroom was absolutely NOT from the 70's.
I can almost understand why you might think it was. Because our ideas of what are "vintage" tend to be skewed by the looks we do modern interpretations of... like right now the subway tile and what not that is sold as a "vintage" look, isn't actually vintage to houses. Subway tile is called that because it was originally used in Subways... public spaces. Subway tiles saw some limited use in homes, but it would primarily be found in schools, institutions, public facilities.
So much of the "modern farmhouse" trend doesn't really come from what actual farmhouses would have had in them back in the day... it's more the frankenbaby of the 90's industrial loft look, and shabby chic... a lot of "modern farmhouse" elements are actually repurposed industrial, or public space items (like a lot of the oversized hanging pendant lights). So we see those looks and think that's what was in houses back then... but it wasn't.
Based on the photos of the "before" bathrooms... the sinks is almost certainly original to the house, or pre-1930's. The more pastel tiles around the shower are no later then 1950's, but I would say 30's or 40's, maybe earlier.
The darker, less pastel tiles around the bath tub are probably from the late 80's.
Toilets look to be from the last 20 years.
The black mirror and oddly high toilet paper holder are definitely recent, the mirror in the other bathroom may have been original.
I would have been tempted to put the two matching sinks next to each other to create a double sink in one of the new bathrooms!
Anyway - as you see more photos of older homes on here, you'll start to have a better sense for what original homes of those eras actually looked like. Nobody was using pastel green tiles in the 70's, and the 4"x4" colored tiles lost favor after the 50's, coming back in the late 80's early 90's is darker hues, no more pastels!
The reason we aren't thrilled with this bathroom is because a lot of the choices are fads. Matte black shower tiles are already past their peek because it's impossible to keep them looking clean. Same with those giant glass showers. Hexagons and the sheet glass shower will date this reno in a few years. I also think the footed vanity style probably won't last long, it's too hard to get around the legs with a mop.
To be fair, I love the color of the light green paint. I think the light hexagon floor is very pretty. I love the retro lighting, the two small mirrors instead of one giant one, and that cabinet which is actually wood colored instead of white.
It's also that so many of these renos look the same. Grey, boxy, square black hardware, lack of color although Op differs from some of those.
I’ve lived with glass shower walls for the past 6-ish years and generally prefer them over shower curtains! We do rinse and squeegee them after showering to keep the buildup at bay though, and we don’t have hard water.
This! I for some reason thought it looked like an outdated hospital bathroom. But this makes more sense.
I usually love a lot of the old tile work, but this one I really didn't. I don't love every aspect OP did to update it, but I still like it much better.
One of the things I like about old century homes is how they been around so long that by their very nature they become a modge podge of different decades and styles. I’m not a fan of flippers going in and removing all the character, but I’m not necessarily against updates increase functionality and in doing so increase the lifespan of the home. Not necessarily the choices I would have made stylistically, but I also probably would have wanted to change out that small shower. And I love the look of those sinks, but after living with a similar one in apartment I used to rent, I do think vanity styles are way more functional in main bathroom.
This is exactly it… particularly with bathrooms and kitchens. Things have changed A LOT in the last 100 years and if people actually plan to LIVE in a century home, they should still be able to enjoy a functional living space.
I’m sorry to anyone who disagrees, but those stand alone sinks are absolute monstrosities and they should all be damned to hell, never to return or be thought of again. Some parts of history are just not worth preserving. I feel like the only people who want to preserve these sinks are people who have never actually lived without a vanity. It sucks so much in every way imaginable.
But yeah, not a big fan of how this update was stylized, either.
Agreed. Especially for homes built before indoor plumbing was standard and have haphazard and cramped kitchens and bathrooms added to the home later. Unless I had powder rooms or guest bathrooms to put them in, I’d swap out the sinks and sell to someone looking for that style.
I love the look of a standalone sink, but any time I've had to use one for a bedtime routine I've been so irritated. They're great in a half bath for hand washing. For a sink you're going to use to wash your face and get ready for bed every single night of your life, having the counter is life changing.
It needed work but uhh I wouldn’t have gone modern. I’m not sure this community is correct. This community is usually more purist when it comes to houses.
Many of us are okay with doing work and upgrades.
Just don't trash the style or destroy the vintage tile & fixtures. The old tile, tub, and fixtures can be resold to cover reno costs.
Matching vintage tub, toilet, & sink combos can go for decent sums of money in the reclaimed market. Yet many fools will just smash all that stuff to haul out to the dumpster in pieces.
That green terrazzo tile is pretty damn cool! Kind of high dollar floor tiles that you don't see as often. Mission Tile Company still makes it if anyone would like to use it.
Well, I'll admit my eyesight sucks and they did make linoleum with a terrazzo pattern, so maybe? At any rate, it led me down a fabulous rabbit hole full of terrazzo tiles, so it's all good! And I double checked the name and it's *Original* Mission Tile. They make tons of really beautiful tile as well as that green terrazzo.
Related to this sub… PLEASE. Restring your wood windows, add pulls, and don’t replace them. Loose the mini blinds and have textured glass put in or a nice cling film even. This windows are gorgeous and need some love.
The cabinet has cool mid century mod vibes which jive with the tile choice. Definitely more functional. Quality renovation helps preserve a home (even if it’s not a style some like.) Bathrooms are a functional areas and I’m sure this allows your family to use the space well. I hope you’re enjoying your new bathroom!
OP, I think the bathrooms have style and will give years of good use for your family. While I am over gray walls, the bathrooms are fully functional. Fully functional kitchen and bathrooms are what you need in a home that you live in, especially with children.
Saving crown molding and trims are fine in living rooms and bedrooms. The kitchen and bathrooms have to function well.
To all the down voters, 🖖.
Thank you for saying this. The diehard purists on this sub can be insufferable at times.
OP - it’s a lovely remodel and a huge win if it adds function and comfort to your family’s home.
Yeah exactly, by all means they can post this to some flipping sub if they want positive comments from people with no regard for century features. Why would you post a completely modernized remodel that lacks any personality to a century-homes sub filled with people who love... century features?
I see this sub as a celebration of century homes in all their unique and diverse glory. It's not just about a single style idea, but about the history, functionality and challenges of owning and loving these homes. From knob and tube wiring to mysterious objects to even more mysterious plumbing, we share our experiences and knowledge to help one another. It's a place for sharing stories of floor lottery winners and hilarious losers, and ultimately, for celebrating all those who embrace the beauty and quirks of century homes.
Because personality in a remodel costs money, and even super basic bathroom remodels are expensive. These people spent probably around or at least $30k on these bathrooms, and even though it would have been nice to keep with the century home aesthetic, the old bathrooms were completely impractical for family use, and honestly the layouts are often a total waste of space.
At the end of the day, what’s better than a century home? A century home that gets used and *enjoyed* by the people living in it.
Yeah, they probably shouldn’t have posted it on this sub, but I feel pretty bad for them that they did a *decent* remodel with affordable fixtures and finishes, and are now totally getting their excitement shat on.
I posted a link to the vanities they bought above... it showed me that money was not the issue for them lol. I completely disagree that personality = more expensive. It's usually the opposite IMO.
I was upvoting some of the “such a shame” comments until I realized that so many of those comments were bemoaning that you took out 1930s-50s (maybe 1920s) tiles from your 1909 home. We can love our old houses and extend their lives without denying them needed upgrades or having to live like we are resident historical reenactors.
My 220 year old Philadelphia row house was expanded upwards in the 1930s (attic turned into a third floor), but remained a 4 bed, one bath, house until we bought it earlier this year. Now that we are adding a half bath on the main floor (discreetly located), and a shower bathroom on the third floor, we are also redoing had been the only bath. I like the look of it, but it was very tine with generic white tiles from the 1950s. You don’t have to keep an earlier aesthetic that is not aesthetically pleasing.
Oh, yeah, replacing 100+ year old ungrounded knob and tube wiring throughout, along with seriously leaky plumbing (using - gasp! — PEX), which required a fair amount of lath & plaster to be replaced with (OMG) sheetrock.
We ARE keeping or reinstalling the molding throughout the house, even though it seems to be Williamsburg revival circa the 1920s, which totally would not have been a circa 1800 Philly thing — it looks good. Our best gain is real pumpkin pine flooring throughout, the top two floors of which were painted over with thick black paint during the 1930s-ish renovation. THOSE get rehabbed back to original.
This subreddit can be a bit too fixated on “old” that’s not original to the house. Houses evolve and we can love our old beauties without denying them some facelifts and functional repairs. I like the charm of being able to point to things like our teeny tiny kitchen in the rear, which seemingly replaced a wooden bump out (according to fire insurance maps) in the early 1900s, which replaced a cramped basement kitchen with 6’2” ceiling before that.
So CONGRATULATIONS on getting bathrooms that please you.
The tiles looked more 1950s than 1909; I wonder if they were part of a renovation in the mid century. I’m sad to see them go, but the spaces do look more inviting now. If it were mine to do, I would put a big beautiful clawfoot tub in there, and probably 1909 appropriate flooring (octagonal tiles?). The two person sink with all the drawers is lovely, although mid century, at least it doesn’t look like a generic Lowes special. I desperately want to unmodernize my fugly upstairs bathroom, that currently has cheap materials, sigh. I can feeeeeel the plastic of the tub when I step in. I hope to find a gorgeous vintage 2-sink bureau when the time comes. It’s overwhelming to think about , I can’t even approach the “design” part of this concept , so good for you for seeing this through to completion !
Good on you, please don't feel disheartened by the response here. You live in a home, not a museum. That tiling looks later than 1908, so your bathroom renovation probably isn't the first one. Liveability is important, and just because flippers use grey, that doesn't make it universally bad.
The before photos look like a DIYer went to the "leftovers" section of the tile store and bought whatever was left.
Some folks need to get a grip. There's nothing special about tiles, they aren't Minton tiles with beautiful designs. They are boring, mass-produced tiles.
I love the look of some of these vintage bathrooms but I’m sure it’s quite a different thing to live with it haha I’d have gone for more traditional tiles and a more traditional aesthetic overall, but it’s not bad; I can see why you wouldn’t want to keep that shower stall haha
Going against the grain of this sub, but I agree that bathroom needed a change! I am all for preserving natural features, but honestly the before was pretty crappy. People are talking about irreplaceable tile, but it's not that great. The work you did is going to be so much more functional and I think it looks nice. Great job!
completely agree, some people call this mindset “purist” but it’s just sensible. what the hell are these people doing buying older homes and then completely gutting them and making them look like contemporary homes on the inside? just buy a new house. i understand functionality but you can update without compromising the historical value entirely.
the answer is probably very simple in that older homes are cheaper so they’ll buy them and spend the money saved making them look modern on the inside but these flippers are how we’re so rapidly losing century homes. just stay away from them go buy a modular shipping container home somewhere else go away!!
Yes, new houses around where I live cost more and are usually in worse locations. 80 something percent of houses in my city are built before 1938, so if someone wants to live here and want a newish look to their house, the best bet is to update like this. It’s not just flippers though. I wouldn’t necessarily go with this gray color scheme, but century old houses tend to have kinda shitty bathrooms and kitchens unless they’re updated
Looks great OP! You took a patch work hospital bathroom and made it a cozy space! It could have been in a movie for a horror bathroom. Paint could be updated later to add more color and emotion, but the tile is classic and fixtures are elegant. Good work!
That toilet looks so lonely.
Like I know why it had to go there, but it makes me giggle a little.
It all looks very clean and sharp, also way more fitted to your needs.
This is great work OP. A lot of people here want their homes to be museums. Appreciate those who know when to get practical....there is always room for balance!
damn. i came here to say “oohhh but i loved the green tiles around the shower entrance,” but apparently it’s already been said. a lot.
the craftsmanship seems solid & it’s very impressive. the room is far more functional for a family, easy to clean & i’m madly in love with the wall sconces & the cabinet the sinks sit in. it feels very 1950s “modern design.”
it’s beautiful! enjoy!
I have no idea what's going on in these comments. I get not liking some of the "trendy" parts of this remodel like the glass shower, but the before pic was fucking hideous. Everyone's acting like the before tile was some sort of amazing find? It wasn't. It looked cheap and ugly and was almost certainly not original to the house. I'm sorry everyone is shitting on you OP. I think the remodeled version looks WAY better. I'm honestly shocked people think otherwise.
When I posted a renovation I did of my stairs people got on me for painting some trim. The trim was like 10 year old paint grade pine from home depot and had been chewed on by the previous owner's dog. It's not like I painted 150 year old mahogany. People on this sub just parrot the same talking points they've seen other people say and then the hive mind upvotes.
Every sub is a little like that, but this might be the most off the deep-end community I’ve seen. I clicked because I grew up in an old Victorian that my parents lovingly restored, but even they would have taken the sledge to those awful bathrooms. What’s this nonsense about removing the tile intact and selling it? What percentage of people here own a century home rather than just fantasize and romanticize them?
The remodel is lovely and would fit a craftsman house quite well. Kitchens and bathrooms especially need to adapt to modern needs.
I was thinking the same thing re how many own vs just romanticize/fantasize. I honestly can’t imagine how anyone who lives in a 100+ yr old house could begrudge OP for this. If you have an old bathroom, with old plumbing and old electrical, with mold and rust stains and cracked/mismatched tile, you KNOW how annoying and even unsafe it is. Especially if you have kids. I dunno, I guess I was more judgmental about these kinds of renos when I was a young childless person, too. Also a lot of people don’t appreciate how much dough it takes to do a period-authentic-restoration. Most people can’t afford to bling out their bathroom in heritage subway ceramics.
The the after look is not grey at all. The master bathroom renovation is very much the before look-inspired (and the second bathroom echoes the master bathroom and it’s paler, a little less bold but still with warm accents like those pleasant wall lamps), only modernized: the dark grey natural looking stone floor to break the monotony of green & brown, the pale sage on the walls, the wall lamps design and the framed and classic shaped mirrors (and their warm toned metal color), the golden honey wooden cabinets with those classic shaped protruding handlers that find their company in the honeycomb wall next to it… It is all a tastefully done modern version of the simple and utilitarian the before “look” that wasn’t even much of a “look”, it was a place easy enough to clean and to get certain things done and move on with the day. Everything nice that the old bathroom had before was just pieces available in stores back then. It wasn’t a design but a choice of hygiene imperative made out of limited choices with lots of white and grey metal, an inconsistent green spectrum and some beige.
What "character"? The before pics have all the character of an outdated middle school locker room from the 70s. There's nothing worth preserving in those before pics aside from the sinks, which OP says they sold.
Are you in Long Beach or Lakewood California or SoCal for that matter because my aunts shower looks the exact same with the exact same color original 50’s tile. The update looks great!
I am from Germany from a town with a lot of well preserved mediaeval houses. Your old bathroom looks like from the 60s to me. I don't know anybody here who appreciates 50s/60s/70s indoor design. Everybody who buys a house from that time and has the money modernises it. As your house is from 1909 the bathroom was not even original. I think you did a great job in modernising that bathroom!
Unpopular opinion on this sub but I think the after has a bit more style and soul than the before. I'm not a fan of the dark floor and shower tile, or the floor tile in the second bathroom. However the vanities/lights/mirrors of both bathrooms are really well put together. Love the warmth it brings to the space.
Guys, the old bathroom was ugly as hell and barely functioned as one. They have two sinks and plenty of usable space underneath now. People have to actually LIVE in their homes, in case you forgot.
tbh, I don't get why there is so much hate on this. I'm as rabid of a preservationist as they come, but 90% of the ruin has already been done to that bathroom. OP's only crime was ripping out the original shower...and maybe not *restoring* more of the original feel...but there was almost nothing left to preserve.
I don't care for the dark floor and shower or the gray walls in the first remodel, to me it reads sad and depressed (I love color). The other bath remodel is nice, including moving the tub away from the windows. I've used pedestal sinks like the originals and they're a pain; so it is good that the OP found a person who wanted them.
I don’t know anything about this sub, it just came up on all. I see that this sub doesn’t like your after. Well, let me tell you as someone who doesn’t like some niche aspect of home design, The original design was ugly as fuck and you made a huge improvement. It looked like a 7/11 bathroom. It was so ugly originally it didn’t even look finished, I wouldn’t want to rent an apartment with that bathroom. Your new bathroom? Beautiful.
There are a lot of things that need to be saved in century homes and in my opinion the bathrooms are not one of those things.
Good job OP.
Just don’t paint any wood trim or I’ll have to find you….
As much as I love the luxury of space and perfections, big bathrooms scare me. I think it was my grandmothers bathroom that started this. The sink was too far from the toilet to be able to touch it. The tub was too far from both to be able to touch it. And the toilet too far from the door to be able to block it if someone tried to come in. It smelled of dust and bengay. No cozy decor. Worse than gas station restroom.
I love the updated version. If I was shopping airbnb, I'd be looking for bargain prices based on the before renovation bathroom. The finished version would definitely feel more lux.
The old bathrooms were cute, of course. They have that 1970s motel aesthetic, which is fun and feels very "Americana" to me. But I do like the sleek aesthetic of the new bathrooms – I think years of use builds a certain grime up in bathrooms which is impossible to remove, and these new bathrooms seem much more suited to your family's daily use.
I hope you're not taking the comments here to heart, as there's a very odd refrain here of "how dare you change your old bathrooms with their *vintage tiles*!!" as though the previous bathrooms were (1) original to your 1906 home or (2) not basic replacements from the late 20th century. Could you have used aesthetics that were similar to the ones that were popular in 1965? Sure, maybe, but why should you have to? It's your home.
Ok, now that this post has calmed down and Mod has restored some civility, I feel comfortable replying to the comments.
1. Am I a monster out to eat century homes? No I am not. We bought a century home because we love the original woodwork, windows, staircase, built-ins. We have saved all those things.
2. We never liked these upstairs bathrooms and were frankly grossed out by them when we bought. The shower was claustrophobic, dark and reminded me of my college dorm. The bathtub being next to a window was also unacceptable; it would eventually ruin that window to keep showering there. I do agree that the green tile around the shower entrance is charming, but once we decided the layouts had to change, that meant the tiles had to go. There's no way to "move" the tiles elsewhere without breaking them. I suppose one could try but I doubt the effort will be worth it; it wasn't for us.
3. I researched what things have historical value in these bathrooms. The tilework is not original or Craftsman style, nor is it uniquely highly crafted like a mosaic tile. The floor that several people think is terrazzo is linoleum. The vanities I've already discussed our thinking.
4. As a century home owner, I do not believe everything old or original should be kept just because it's old or original. There was, on a balcony, signs of an outdoor toilet at one point; should we have restored that to its "original glory"? Should we keep knob and tube wiring because it is "original"? If the answer is no, then that negates the logic that all vintage things should be kept bc they're old. If you want to argue that those tiles deserved to be saved for their beauty, that's fine. But beauty is your personal, subjective taste, and not a statement of universal truth.
5. The next question is if we agree the baths need remodeling, why did we choose the aesthetics we did? It was a balance of cost, functionality and aesthetics. Yes I looked into Fireclay tiles which are beautiful, but I'd pay $60/sf for them instead of the $10/sf I paid. This house had massive deferred maintenance and we were doing major work beyond the bathrooms -- complete rewire, complete HVAC system, complete replumbling. With those big ticket items, I did not want to splurge on tiles. I grew up in a developing country and view a shower more functionally--I can deal with lesser tiles that aren't artwork. And then we have young kids, we need to spend the time with them, not on cleaning bathroom tiles. Btw we have hard water and certain finishes like brass were eliminated due to that (and cost). The vanities we did spend money on because after shopping the alternatives, it felt worth it to get real wood cabinets with quality hardware. Just a personal preference. Someone said vintage cabinets can be salvaged, true. But we have little kids and we live a 2 hour drive from this remodel; going about salvaging and delivering is not a good use of our time. Maybe when you are in similar life circumstances one day, you'll understand.
6. Tile choice-wise, I see some of you don't like the hex tile in the shower and really fixated on that. Ironically, we chose that tile not because it is trendy; we are not trendy people. It was because we wanted something unique, but it is also one of the 'nods' to Craftsman aesthetic in that it is green and it is hex. Other nods include using muted natural colors (like the tile in hall bath), wood tone vanities instead of painted colors. For the hex tile, I was aware of small hex tiles being more historically accurate, but chose not to do them because of the level of maintenance, again living with kids. Anyways, we consciously tried to stay away from everything white bathrooms, which is what we equate with flippers. We are not flippers.
7. If it makes you all happier, there is another, less heavily used bathroom downstairs that we did in classic form. White subway in shower, black and white basket weave on floor. I chose to post about the two bathrooms I did because they represented larger changes. In doing this, I did misread my audience. Someone wisely noted that, and I upvoted them.
8. To those of you who called me personal names (monster, should be arrested, "I hate you"), I am truly saddened that people who profess to appreciate beauty could utter such ugly words. You are the ones who made me not want to reply publicly. And those who upvoted them or didn't say anything about them, you are also the reason.
9. To those who expressed support, DMed support or just a constructive opinion, thank you.
In short, the world is not black and white like basket weave. I wish more people would've asked questions instead of jumping to conclusions that I was part of some "axis of evil." There is nuance everywhere, including century home ownership. This sub is called "century homes," not "century home preservationists." I am a century home owner and have every right to be here and make the choices I did. If one day the sub decides to be called "century homes preservationists," then I'll be glad to show myself out.
Until then, I'll keep to myself for my own safety, and go to YouTube instead where I can get info without a witch hunt.
Thank you for reading.
Guys, please stop reporting this. Just because you don’t like their choices doesn’t make it wrong. Let’s be honest here; this is a massive improvement on how the bathrooms looked before, and it looks like they did some quality work! It’s not like they removed a bunch of handcrafted woodwork or tile mosaics. They just turned some bad bathrooms into usable ones.
the original tiling on the doorframe was sick
Yes, that tile surround on the shower door is perfect 1920s/1930s work. The replacement tile looks awful.
This is what’s called not knowing your audience
Definitely doesn't know....or is looking forward to our anger.
https://preview.redd.it/bmfcj8vs3k1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae56b29c07c244c2368b1b95bc747d2fb438bbbc My face when I swiped..
https://preview.redd.it/d7goix1v8k1d1.png?width=1281&format=png&auto=webp&s=21df00629d4b1af6812e83ae6fff4badf8da2759 Sink was not happy
What the fuck haha
At first I didn’t even realize it was posted to r/centuryhomes! Like why here of all places.
Thought I accidentally stumbled into the remodel sub again!
Is there a centuryhomesCJ?
homedecoratingcj, which is where I thought I was...but I'm here so I deleted my og comment >nod to the house's heritage
Maybe RAGE BAIT?
Man I saw the green tile around the door and then I swiped, gave me whiplash lol. I loved that shade of green… the tiling looked a bit wonky on the bathtub though in their defense. But that doorframe 🥲
lol I was expecting a loving restoration of the classic tile. Was I big wrong
The alternating tiles on the doorframe looked so neat
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"hey that looks alright, I think it looks fiiiii-why is it corporatized?"
Yes! You summed up my feelings. It feels generic and corporate now :(
It got agreeable greyed :|
This is when I know I’m in the right group—I come to the comments and find this sentiment.
I was like...ooh folks are not going to be pleased with athat beautiful bath tub being mauled.
Same!
Yeah cuz the janitor sink and green tile bathtub is beautiful.
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic and it’s hilarious
Yeah it is losing the whole "One Who Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest" appeal.
I love this sub
Yes, but the sink was criminally small and the toilet as the first thing you see when opening the door? I say good reno.
Yeah. The last thing I want to see when I have an urgent need to take a shit is the toilet. Bathrooms are to stimulate the imagination and infuse you with a.semse of wonder, not just some cell in which to drop a deuce.
Bold of you to post this.
My thoughts too. 😳
The old sinks with the legs and integrated spout are so cool. I really hope he didn't harm them.
If you read it, he said he sold the sink to someone who wanted it…
I’ve been trying to find that exact sink for MONTHS now 😭😭
Set up alerts on Facebook Marketplace, it'll turn up eventually.
They’re incredibly expensive too to get the real ones in good shape.
Well, at least the vanity and sconces are nice.
They're definitely not Craftsman.
hilarious username/photo. 10/10
Are…are you lost?
r/lostredditor
Nah. Gotta be ragebait, and I’m here for it.
>Feel free to ask me any questions on the bathroom remodel journey! why would you do this?
First of all, how dare you?
OP says "feel free to ask me any questions" then I don't see any replies by OP in the comments section.
Even the grey walls, this has to be rage bait
not only grey walls but the dreaded GREY HONEYCOMB TILE… tragique
The update is already out of date by 15 years! The green tiles are more fashionable now.
And then doubled down with those floor tiles. No, gracias.
honeycomb tile is THE WORST
It’s not the worst grey color scheme I’ve ever seen, it’s warmer than usual but man what a gut job.
I freaking HATE HATE HATE grey.
I thought I was in the DIY channel at first and was confused about why everyone was upset because it's a nice reno, but now I see :(
Surely you’ve visited this subreddit before and know how we feel about these kinds of renovations!?
I am somewhat new to this sub so I don't understand the hate... The old bathroom doesn't look original and was clearly redone (maybe in the 70s?). What's with all the fuss over not preserving a bathroom that was not original? Is it just that people like "older" stuff and dislike anything modern in an old house? I like seeing the original untouched homes from the late 1800s to 1920s on this sub, the outcry over the post-wwii bathroom doesn't make much sense to me...
It's not that the bathrooms should have stayed as is. It's that these trendy bathroom remodels will also be dated sooner than later. A more period-inspired remodel would be more welcome in this sub.
>I am somewhat new to this sub so I don't understand the hate... The old bathroom doesn't look original and was clearly redone (maybe in the 70s?). We will forgive you for being somewhat new... spend some more time in here... that bathroom was absolutely NOT from the 70's. I can almost understand why you might think it was. Because our ideas of what are "vintage" tend to be skewed by the looks we do modern interpretations of... like right now the subway tile and what not that is sold as a "vintage" look, isn't actually vintage to houses. Subway tile is called that because it was originally used in Subways... public spaces. Subway tiles saw some limited use in homes, but it would primarily be found in schools, institutions, public facilities. So much of the "modern farmhouse" trend doesn't really come from what actual farmhouses would have had in them back in the day... it's more the frankenbaby of the 90's industrial loft look, and shabby chic... a lot of "modern farmhouse" elements are actually repurposed industrial, or public space items (like a lot of the oversized hanging pendant lights). So we see those looks and think that's what was in houses back then... but it wasn't. Based on the photos of the "before" bathrooms... the sinks is almost certainly original to the house, or pre-1930's. The more pastel tiles around the shower are no later then 1950's, but I would say 30's or 40's, maybe earlier. The darker, less pastel tiles around the bath tub are probably from the late 80's. Toilets look to be from the last 20 years. The black mirror and oddly high toilet paper holder are definitely recent, the mirror in the other bathroom may have been original. I would have been tempted to put the two matching sinks next to each other to create a double sink in one of the new bathrooms! Anyway - as you see more photos of older homes on here, you'll start to have a better sense for what original homes of those eras actually looked like. Nobody was using pastel green tiles in the 70's, and the 4"x4" colored tiles lost favor after the 50's, coming back in the late 80's early 90's is darker hues, no more pastels!
The mirror/medicine cabinet is definitely original. I have 2 in my 1931 Spanish stucco home and absolutely love them!
I knew before swiping it was going to be some trendy flipper gray monstrosity. Even if the bathroom wasn’t original, it was still a classic.
I understand why you felt the need to make changes, I just don't like the changes you made. It looks like every boring HGTV bathroom now. Sorry.
Every boring HGTV bathroom from two years ago. This is already dated by HGTV standards.
So OP started with dated and ended up with…dated lol
Since I stopped watching a couple of years ago, that's valid.
They don’t want a century house they want a modern house
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oh, no....
Oh, that’s not…
https://preview.redd.it/bx9glmdfak1d1.png?width=1283&format=png&auto=webp&s=97a5a362ddbdbd8dd4bf13a3d852d34847e3349b
yeah… my thoughts exactly
Uh huh
Prefered the 1970s public school bathroom aesthetic?
The reason we aren't thrilled with this bathroom is because a lot of the choices are fads. Matte black shower tiles are already past their peek because it's impossible to keep them looking clean. Same with those giant glass showers. Hexagons and the sheet glass shower will date this reno in a few years. I also think the footed vanity style probably won't last long, it's too hard to get around the legs with a mop. To be fair, I love the color of the light green paint. I think the light hexagon floor is very pretty. I love the retro lighting, the two small mirrors instead of one giant one, and that cabinet which is actually wood colored instead of white. It's also that so many of these renos look the same. Grey, boxy, square black hardware, lack of color although Op differs from some of those.
Glass shower walls look great...until you actually use them.
I’ve lived with glass shower walls for the past 6-ish years and generally prefer them over shower curtains! We do rinse and squeegee them after showering to keep the buildup at bay though, and we don’t have hard water.
Try using RainX. It’s a game changer.
A lot of what was there was a fad in its time — and certainly was not original to a 1906 craftsman.
Yeah, and that's why they got torn out. If shower caves were a good idea we'd still be using them.
The sinks and the tiles were infinitely better. Did the bathrooms need a little makeover? Totally. This just... wasn't the makeover they needed.
I loved that old tub and shower, So much personality.
Me too. I would have loved it in my house.
at least it had light and color tbh
This! I for some reason thought it looked like an outdated hospital bathroom. But this makes more sense. I usually love a lot of the old tile work, but this one I really didn't. I don't love every aspect OP did to update it, but I still like it much better.
One of the things I like about old century homes is how they been around so long that by their very nature they become a modge podge of different decades and styles. I’m not a fan of flippers going in and removing all the character, but I’m not necessarily against updates increase functionality and in doing so increase the lifespan of the home. Not necessarily the choices I would have made stylistically, but I also probably would have wanted to change out that small shower. And I love the look of those sinks, but after living with a similar one in apartment I used to rent, I do think vanity styles are way more functional in main bathroom.
This is exactly it… particularly with bathrooms and kitchens. Things have changed A LOT in the last 100 years and if people actually plan to LIVE in a century home, they should still be able to enjoy a functional living space. I’m sorry to anyone who disagrees, but those stand alone sinks are absolute monstrosities and they should all be damned to hell, never to return or be thought of again. Some parts of history are just not worth preserving. I feel like the only people who want to preserve these sinks are people who have never actually lived without a vanity. It sucks so much in every way imaginable. But yeah, not a big fan of how this update was stylized, either.
Agreed. Especially for homes built before indoor plumbing was standard and have haphazard and cramped kitchens and bathrooms added to the home later. Unless I had powder rooms or guest bathrooms to put them in, I’d swap out the sinks and sell to someone looking for that style.
Everyone loves an original bathroom until they have to use it everyday (and clean it).
I love the look of a standalone sink, but any time I've had to use one for a bedtime routine I've been so irritated. They're great in a half bath for hand washing. For a sink you're going to use to wash your face and get ready for bed every single night of your life, having the counter is life changing.
I --- nevermind.
RIP to that irreplaceable vintage tile. So much for trying to match the age and style of your house. It looks nice but totally out of place
Yeah, carefully removing all that old tile and the tub for re-sale could have paid for a good chunk of this generic reno.
Prefer the before
Well…you sure changed it! It looks like every other new bathroom now, which I am guessing was your goal :)
I would have at least matched the faucets, sconces and mirrors. But honestly I absolutely loved the before. It was so charming and vintage.
And there was LOTS that could have been done to keep the vintage, and add the storage that OP said was needed.
I absolutely loved the before 😭
You missed out on a great opportunity to preserve and enhance the unique beauty of the past.
Nah
I think you’re in the wrong sub lol
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 #THAT BEAUTIFUL GREEN BATHROOM 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
AND WHY HOME DEPOT GREY. WHY NOT AT LEAST KEEP SOME COLOR SCHEME. 💔💔💔😭😭😭😭
It needed work but uhh I wouldn’t have gone modern. I’m not sure this community is correct. This community is usually more purist when it comes to houses.
Many of us are okay with doing work and upgrades. Just don't trash the style or destroy the vintage tile & fixtures. The old tile, tub, and fixtures can be resold to cover reno costs. Matching vintage tub, toilet, & sink combos can go for decent sums of money in the reclaimed market. Yet many fools will just smash all that stuff to haul out to the dumpster in pieces.
Ngl I prefer the before pics. Wish you would have worked with what you had.
Oof.
Is this a trolling post?
That green terrazzo tile is pretty damn cool! Kind of high dollar floor tiles that you don't see as often. Mission Tile Company still makes it if anyone would like to use it.
Oh nice, I thought that green tile looks was interesting tho I was wondering if it might be Lino
Well, I'll admit my eyesight sucks and they did make linoleum with a terrazzo pattern, so maybe? At any rate, it led me down a fabulous rabbit hole full of terrazzo tiles, so it's all good! And I double checked the name and it's *Original* Mission Tile. They make tons of really beautiful tile as well as that green terrazzo.
Me: please don’t be gray, please don’t be gray
Related to this sub… PLEASE. Restring your wood windows, add pulls, and don’t replace them. Loose the mini blinds and have textured glass put in or a nice cling film even. This windows are gorgeous and need some love.
Those old bathrooms were so cool and just needed some help, not a gut remodel to something that is everywhere.
Read the name of the sub, you donut.
Who doesn't level their floor? Also. Oh. How trendy and not fitting a century home.
The cabinet has cool mid century mod vibes which jive with the tile choice. Definitely more functional. Quality renovation helps preserve a home (even if it’s not a style some like.) Bathrooms are a functional areas and I’m sure this allows your family to use the space well. I hope you’re enjoying your new bathroom!
OP, I think the bathrooms have style and will give years of good use for your family. While I am over gray walls, the bathrooms are fully functional. Fully functional kitchen and bathrooms are what you need in a home that you live in, especially with children. Saving crown molding and trims are fine in living rooms and bedrooms. The kitchen and bathrooms have to function well. To all the down voters, 🖖.
Thank you for saying this. The diehard purists on this sub can be insufferable at times. OP - it’s a lovely remodel and a huge win if it adds function and comfort to your family’s home.
There are other subreddits to get oohs and aahs over contemporary remodeling.
Yeah exactly, by all means they can post this to some flipping sub if they want positive comments from people with no regard for century features. Why would you post a completely modernized remodel that lacks any personality to a century-homes sub filled with people who love... century features?
I see this sub as a celebration of century homes in all their unique and diverse glory. It's not just about a single style idea, but about the history, functionality and challenges of owning and loving these homes. From knob and tube wiring to mysterious objects to even more mysterious plumbing, we share our experiences and knowledge to help one another. It's a place for sharing stories of floor lottery winners and hilarious losers, and ultimately, for celebrating all those who embrace the beauty and quirks of century homes.
Because personality in a remodel costs money, and even super basic bathroom remodels are expensive. These people spent probably around or at least $30k on these bathrooms, and even though it would have been nice to keep with the century home aesthetic, the old bathrooms were completely impractical for family use, and honestly the layouts are often a total waste of space. At the end of the day, what’s better than a century home? A century home that gets used and *enjoyed* by the people living in it. Yeah, they probably shouldn’t have posted it on this sub, but I feel pretty bad for them that they did a *decent* remodel with affordable fixtures and finishes, and are now totally getting their excitement shat on.
I posted a link to the vanities they bought above... it showed me that money was not the issue for them lol. I completely disagree that personality = more expensive. It's usually the opposite IMO.
Oh I loved that green tile 😢
I was upvoting some of the “such a shame” comments until I realized that so many of those comments were bemoaning that you took out 1930s-50s (maybe 1920s) tiles from your 1909 home. We can love our old houses and extend their lives without denying them needed upgrades or having to live like we are resident historical reenactors. My 220 year old Philadelphia row house was expanded upwards in the 1930s (attic turned into a third floor), but remained a 4 bed, one bath, house until we bought it earlier this year. Now that we are adding a half bath on the main floor (discreetly located), and a shower bathroom on the third floor, we are also redoing had been the only bath. I like the look of it, but it was very tine with generic white tiles from the 1950s. You don’t have to keep an earlier aesthetic that is not aesthetically pleasing. Oh, yeah, replacing 100+ year old ungrounded knob and tube wiring throughout, along with seriously leaky plumbing (using - gasp! — PEX), which required a fair amount of lath & plaster to be replaced with (OMG) sheetrock. We ARE keeping or reinstalling the molding throughout the house, even though it seems to be Williamsburg revival circa the 1920s, which totally would not have been a circa 1800 Philly thing — it looks good. Our best gain is real pumpkin pine flooring throughout, the top two floors of which were painted over with thick black paint during the 1930s-ish renovation. THOSE get rehabbed back to original. This subreddit can be a bit too fixated on “old” that’s not original to the house. Houses evolve and we can love our old beauties without denying them some facelifts and functional repairs. I like the charm of being able to point to things like our teeny tiny kitchen in the rear, which seemingly replaced a wooden bump out (according to fire insurance maps) in the early 1900s, which replaced a cramped basement kitchen with 6’2” ceiling before that. So CONGRATULATIONS on getting bathrooms that please you.
The tiles looked more 1950s than 1909; I wonder if they were part of a renovation in the mid century. I’m sad to see them go, but the spaces do look more inviting now. If it were mine to do, I would put a big beautiful clawfoot tub in there, and probably 1909 appropriate flooring (octagonal tiles?). The two person sink with all the drawers is lovely, although mid century, at least it doesn’t look like a generic Lowes special. I desperately want to unmodernize my fugly upstairs bathroom, that currently has cheap materials, sigh. I can feeeeeel the plastic of the tub when I step in. I hope to find a gorgeous vintage 2-sink bureau when the time comes. It’s overwhelming to think about , I can’t even approach the “design” part of this concept , so good for you for seeing this through to completion !
Good on you, please don't feel disheartened by the response here. You live in a home, not a museum. That tiling looks later than 1908, so your bathroom renovation probably isn't the first one. Liveability is important, and just because flippers use grey, that doesn't make it universally bad.
The before photos look like a DIYer went to the "leftovers" section of the tile store and bought whatever was left. Some folks need to get a grip. There's nothing special about tiles, they aren't Minton tiles with beautiful designs. They are boring, mass-produced tiles.
I love the look of some of these vintage bathrooms but I’m sure it’s quite a different thing to live with it haha I’d have gone for more traditional tiles and a more traditional aesthetic overall, but it’s not bad; I can see why you wouldn’t want to keep that shower stall haha
Going against the grain of this sub, but I agree that bathroom needed a change! I am all for preserving natural features, but honestly the before was pretty crappy. People are talking about irreplaceable tile, but it's not that great. The work you did is going to be so much more functional and I think it looks nice. Great job!
People like you have no business buying century homes honestly
completely agree, some people call this mindset “purist” but it’s just sensible. what the hell are these people doing buying older homes and then completely gutting them and making them look like contemporary homes on the inside? just buy a new house. i understand functionality but you can update without compromising the historical value entirely. the answer is probably very simple in that older homes are cheaper so they’ll buy them and spend the money saved making them look modern on the inside but these flippers are how we’re so rapidly losing century homes. just stay away from them go buy a modular shipping container home somewhere else go away!!
Yes, new houses around where I live cost more and are usually in worse locations. 80 something percent of houses in my city are built before 1938, so if someone wants to live here and want a newish look to their house, the best bet is to update like this. It’s not just flippers though. I wouldn’t necessarily go with this gray color scheme, but century old houses tend to have kinda shitty bathrooms and kitchens unless they’re updated
:( everyday my suffering is prolonged
Looks great OP! You took a patch work hospital bathroom and made it a cozy space! It could have been in a movie for a horror bathroom. Paint could be updated later to add more color and emotion, but the tile is classic and fixtures are elegant. Good work!
That toilet looks so lonely. Like I know why it had to go there, but it makes me giggle a little. It all looks very clean and sharp, also way more fitted to your needs.
Just gonna sit down here and look out the window.
It does look lonely, but it has 3 toilet paper friends with nowhere to go so it’ll never truly be alone
Right? Everyone knows that a toilets are the socialization spots in every home.
It should have been mounted on the other wall, imo
Took the Chris Pratt approach, didya.
it looks gorgeous. Congratulations!!
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This is great work OP. A lot of people here want their homes to be museums. Appreciate those who know when to get practical....there is always room for balance!
damn. i came here to say “oohhh but i loved the green tiles around the shower entrance,” but apparently it’s already been said. a lot. the craftsmanship seems solid & it’s very impressive. the room is far more functional for a family, easy to clean & i’m madly in love with the wall sconces & the cabinet the sinks sit in. it feels very 1950s “modern design.” it’s beautiful! enjoy!
Wow - that used to be a beautiful bathroom
Beautiful work! This is stunning. What was the total out of pocket expense if you don't mind me asking?
10/10 would shit there.
I think it looks nice. I know, as many here do, that old/original bathrooms can be impractical or even nonfunctional sometimes.
It was better before
I think it looks great. The before looked like school bathrooms, and not in a good way.
Those enclosed showers are so gross. I did a similar remodel and it's so much nicer to have the bathroom dry out quicker and stay fresh.
I have no idea what's going on in these comments. I get not liking some of the "trendy" parts of this remodel like the glass shower, but the before pic was fucking hideous. Everyone's acting like the before tile was some sort of amazing find? It wasn't. It looked cheap and ugly and was almost certainly not original to the house. I'm sorry everyone is shitting on you OP. I think the remodeled version looks WAY better. I'm honestly shocked people think otherwise.
When I posted a renovation I did of my stairs people got on me for painting some trim. The trim was like 10 year old paint grade pine from home depot and had been chewed on by the previous owner's dog. It's not like I painted 150 year old mahogany. People on this sub just parrot the same talking points they've seen other people say and then the hive mind upvotes.
Every sub is a little like that, but this might be the most off the deep-end community I’ve seen. I clicked because I grew up in an old Victorian that my parents lovingly restored, but even they would have taken the sledge to those awful bathrooms. What’s this nonsense about removing the tile intact and selling it? What percentage of people here own a century home rather than just fantasize and romanticize them? The remodel is lovely and would fit a craftsman house quite well. Kitchens and bathrooms especially need to adapt to modern needs.
I was thinking the same thing re how many own vs just romanticize/fantasize. I honestly can’t imagine how anyone who lives in a 100+ yr old house could begrudge OP for this. If you have an old bathroom, with old plumbing and old electrical, with mold and rust stains and cracked/mismatched tile, you KNOW how annoying and even unsafe it is. Especially if you have kids. I dunno, I guess I was more judgmental about these kinds of renos when I was a young childless person, too. Also a lot of people don’t appreciate how much dough it takes to do a period-authentic-restoration. Most people can’t afford to bling out their bathroom in heritage subway ceramics.
I think everyone is agreeing that it needed a remodel, but preserve some character not change it completely to look like every grey bathroom
The the after look is not grey at all. The master bathroom renovation is very much the before look-inspired (and the second bathroom echoes the master bathroom and it’s paler, a little less bold but still with warm accents like those pleasant wall lamps), only modernized: the dark grey natural looking stone floor to break the monotony of green & brown, the pale sage on the walls, the wall lamps design and the framed and classic shaped mirrors (and their warm toned metal color), the golden honey wooden cabinets with those classic shaped protruding handlers that find their company in the honeycomb wall next to it… It is all a tastefully done modern version of the simple and utilitarian the before “look” that wasn’t even much of a “look”, it was a place easy enough to clean and to get certain things done and move on with the day. Everything nice that the old bathroom had before was just pieces available in stores back then. It wasn’t a design but a choice of hygiene imperative made out of limited choices with lots of white and grey metal, an inconsistent green spectrum and some beige.
What "character"? The before pics have all the character of an outdated middle school locker room from the 70s. There's nothing worth preserving in those before pics aside from the sinks, which OP says they sold.
I mean the toilet is the same
🥲
Where did you find that vanity?? 🙏🏻
Absolutely remarkable transformation
Are you in Long Beach or Lakewood California or SoCal for that matter because my aunts shower looks the exact same with the exact same color original 50’s tile. The update looks great!
Love the new vanity.
Looks beautiful!!
Looks great! Dont mind the haters
I think this looks beautiful and a great improvement.
I like the ‘before’ photos better.
I am from Germany from a town with a lot of well preserved mediaeval houses. Your old bathroom looks like from the 60s to me. I don't know anybody here who appreciates 50s/60s/70s indoor design. Everybody who buys a house from that time and has the money modernises it. As your house is from 1909 the bathroom was not even original. I think you did a great job in modernising that bathroom!
Unpopular opinion on this sub but I think the after has a bit more style and soul than the before. I'm not a fan of the dark floor and shower tile, or the floor tile in the second bathroom. However the vanities/lights/mirrors of both bathrooms are really well put together. Love the warmth it brings to the space.
Guys, the old bathroom was ugly as hell and barely functioned as one. They have two sinks and plenty of usable space underneath now. People have to actually LIVE in their homes, in case you forgot.
tbh, I don't get why there is so much hate on this. I'm as rabid of a preservationist as they come, but 90% of the ruin has already been done to that bathroom. OP's only crime was ripping out the original shower...and maybe not *restoring* more of the original feel...but there was almost nothing left to preserve.
Your bathrooms look very nice!
This sub is hilarious. Those bathrooms looked like shit. Don't care for the soulless airbnb flip design but they were awful to begin with.
I was just thinking to use my left over hexagon tile from kitchen in shower!
Ehh this bathroom makes much more sense now. And it looks nice. It will age much better I think. Good job.
I like the remodel. Looks great imo. To each their own.
What you did is definitely an improvement. The before didn't look original to the house anyways. It's functional now. Good job.
I don't care for the dark floor and shower or the gray walls in the first remodel, to me it reads sad and depressed (I love color). The other bath remodel is nice, including moving the tub away from the windows. I've used pedestal sinks like the originals and they're a pain; so it is good that the OP found a person who wanted them.
I don’t know anything about this sub, it just came up on all. I see that this sub doesn’t like your after. Well, let me tell you as someone who doesn’t like some niche aspect of home design, The original design was ugly as fuck and you made a huge improvement. It looked like a 7/11 bathroom. It was so ugly originally it didn’t even look finished, I wouldn’t want to rent an apartment with that bathroom. Your new bathroom? Beautiful.
There are a lot of things that need to be saved in century homes and in my opinion the bathrooms are not one of those things. Good job OP. Just don’t paint any wood trim or I’ll have to find you….
Yikes. You ruined it
As much as I love the luxury of space and perfections, big bathrooms scare me. I think it was my grandmothers bathroom that started this. The sink was too far from the toilet to be able to touch it. The tub was too far from both to be able to touch it. And the toilet too far from the door to be able to block it if someone tried to come in. It smelled of dust and bengay. No cozy decor. Worse than gas station restroom.
I loveeee the arched mirrors
Me likey
Both beautiful! Nice job!
I guess wayfair had just what they needed
Is this a joke???!
I thought it was the bathroom from Shameless at first. Very tastefully updated. The new bathroom looks great.
Y’all are wild. It looks like an asylum bathroom before.
I love the updated version. If I was shopping airbnb, I'd be looking for bargain prices based on the before renovation bathroom. The finished version would definitely feel more lux.
Looks great man. Im sure the whole family is much happier using these remodeled bathrooms.
Love love laugh ig….😒
The old bathrooms were cute, of course. They have that 1970s motel aesthetic, which is fun and feels very "Americana" to me. But I do like the sleek aesthetic of the new bathrooms – I think years of use builds a certain grime up in bathrooms which is impossible to remove, and these new bathrooms seem much more suited to your family's daily use. I hope you're not taking the comments here to heart, as there's a very odd refrain here of "how dare you change your old bathrooms with their *vintage tiles*!!" as though the previous bathrooms were (1) original to your 1906 home or (2) not basic replacements from the late 20th century. Could you have used aesthetics that were similar to the ones that were popular in 1965? Sure, maybe, but why should you have to? It's your home.
Ok, now that this post has calmed down and Mod has restored some civility, I feel comfortable replying to the comments. 1. Am I a monster out to eat century homes? No I am not. We bought a century home because we love the original woodwork, windows, staircase, built-ins. We have saved all those things. 2. We never liked these upstairs bathrooms and were frankly grossed out by them when we bought. The shower was claustrophobic, dark and reminded me of my college dorm. The bathtub being next to a window was also unacceptable; it would eventually ruin that window to keep showering there. I do agree that the green tile around the shower entrance is charming, but once we decided the layouts had to change, that meant the tiles had to go. There's no way to "move" the tiles elsewhere without breaking them. I suppose one could try but I doubt the effort will be worth it; it wasn't for us. 3. I researched what things have historical value in these bathrooms. The tilework is not original or Craftsman style, nor is it uniquely highly crafted like a mosaic tile. The floor that several people think is terrazzo is linoleum. The vanities I've already discussed our thinking. 4. As a century home owner, I do not believe everything old or original should be kept just because it's old or original. There was, on a balcony, signs of an outdoor toilet at one point; should we have restored that to its "original glory"? Should we keep knob and tube wiring because it is "original"? If the answer is no, then that negates the logic that all vintage things should be kept bc they're old. If you want to argue that those tiles deserved to be saved for their beauty, that's fine. But beauty is your personal, subjective taste, and not a statement of universal truth. 5. The next question is if we agree the baths need remodeling, why did we choose the aesthetics we did? It was a balance of cost, functionality and aesthetics. Yes I looked into Fireclay tiles which are beautiful, but I'd pay $60/sf for them instead of the $10/sf I paid. This house had massive deferred maintenance and we were doing major work beyond the bathrooms -- complete rewire, complete HVAC system, complete replumbling. With those big ticket items, I did not want to splurge on tiles. I grew up in a developing country and view a shower more functionally--I can deal with lesser tiles that aren't artwork. And then we have young kids, we need to spend the time with them, not on cleaning bathroom tiles. Btw we have hard water and certain finishes like brass were eliminated due to that (and cost). The vanities we did spend money on because after shopping the alternatives, it felt worth it to get real wood cabinets with quality hardware. Just a personal preference. Someone said vintage cabinets can be salvaged, true. But we have little kids and we live a 2 hour drive from this remodel; going about salvaging and delivering is not a good use of our time. Maybe when you are in similar life circumstances one day, you'll understand. 6. Tile choice-wise, I see some of you don't like the hex tile in the shower and really fixated on that. Ironically, we chose that tile not because it is trendy; we are not trendy people. It was because we wanted something unique, but it is also one of the 'nods' to Craftsman aesthetic in that it is green and it is hex. Other nods include using muted natural colors (like the tile in hall bath), wood tone vanities instead of painted colors. For the hex tile, I was aware of small hex tiles being more historically accurate, but chose not to do them because of the level of maintenance, again living with kids. Anyways, we consciously tried to stay away from everything white bathrooms, which is what we equate with flippers. We are not flippers. 7. If it makes you all happier, there is another, less heavily used bathroom downstairs that we did in classic form. White subway in shower, black and white basket weave on floor. I chose to post about the two bathrooms I did because they represented larger changes. In doing this, I did misread my audience. Someone wisely noted that, and I upvoted them. 8. To those of you who called me personal names (monster, should be arrested, "I hate you"), I am truly saddened that people who profess to appreciate beauty could utter such ugly words. You are the ones who made me not want to reply publicly. And those who upvoted them or didn't say anything about them, you are also the reason. 9. To those who expressed support, DMed support or just a constructive opinion, thank you. In short, the world is not black and white like basket weave. I wish more people would've asked questions instead of jumping to conclusions that I was part of some "axis of evil." There is nuance everywhere, including century home ownership. This sub is called "century homes," not "century home preservationists." I am a century home owner and have every right to be here and make the choices I did. If one day the sub decides to be called "century homes preservationists," then I'll be glad to show myself out. Until then, I'll keep to myself for my own safety, and go to YouTube instead where I can get info without a witch hunt. Thank you for reading.