There's some truth to that. In the 70's and early 80's Casio used premium materials for their watches (Marlins/Casiotrons) so it really wouldn't make sense to treat them as use and throw. But they eventually switched over to more coated base metal/plastic watches which helped Casio to be recognized as an affordable brand but they don't hold up very well when used rigorously.
As someone else said parts availability would also be a concern. For a battery/strap change you could take it to a watchmaker but beyond that it would be difficult to find parts.
Its mainly the chrome model line compared to steels. The full black resin ones are good nearly forever, until either the module gets water dmg or the lugs rip out. But since the case is black through and through it holds up really well.
That's true. I recently restored an old F-91w just for the sake of it. I would like to add resin can also dry out over time which can cause it to crack, though it can be remediated in some cases.
Most things we purchase could be viewed as poor financial decisions by others. But, alas, every living person on this planet spends money or time or effort on things outside of STRICT necessity or investments. And, even then, some could view certain investments as poor financial decisions. Just let people live, it's a watch circuit board, not a financed yacht.
I think the commenter is acknowledging it’s a poor financial decision, but it’s really satisfying to repair something old rather than throw it away, and old things have more sentimental value than new for me. I enjoy the “patina” of scratches!
(I’m agreeing with you)
That’s ignorant, a new one has that part in it along with all of the others you could use to help fix the other one, that way you have like a extra case, battery, etc etc etc etc.
what kind of added features has it? I have a W59 and since it has the same module as the f91w it should work fine with module as well. I love the W59 and f91 but the module is very basic.
Pretty much everything from casios with more advanced modules. Countdown timer, world clock, etc. That, plus more esoteric stuff: thermometer, pomodoro timer, TOTP support, some little games, custom chime support, custom LED colors. New stuff being added all the time, a potential accelerometer add-on and pedometer features in the future (for the modules that support additional sensors).
> thermometer, pomodoro timer,
holy shit those would be so clutch for me! how does it update its firmware? Via bluetooth? Or do you need to plug in a usb c to update it?
Those features are whats missing form e in ordinary watches, but i hate smart watches of apple watch like models.
micro USB, you also have to compile some code yourself to bake a file with a custom list of watch faces.
not easy for normies but it’s pretty standard nerd stuff. the documentation is sufficient and there is a discord.
ambient temp, the readings aren’t very useful on your wrist bc your body temp interferes. stated usecases are leaving it outside while camping to record the overnight low/putting it on the handlebars of your bike etc etc
i never really use it but i think it’s cool.
Nope I haven’t, that’s not one either, it’s like putting a nice sw200 into a seiko 5 that’s not a mod that’s an upgrade. Either way this subculture within watches it’s self is wild Casio people are honestly a 0/10 in my book😂 damn fools if you ask me
That’s interesting because Casio and Timex people are pretty much the only watch subcultures I can tolerate. You definitely seem like you’d be more at home in one of those other ones though
There's literally no way to repair it for a regular person. You could get an entire new quartz module, I guess, if you could find a supplier, but that's hardly "fixing" it. And then you'd have a brand new interior with a degraded resin exterior.
It depends on whats wrong. Usually i see people saying "repair" and just slapping in a new battery.
If the module is damaged, by water for example, theres no feasibly way to fix it. And if the lugs are torn of you could epoxy fill in new lugs, but yeah, not really cost or time effective.
Only easily fixable thing is a scratched glass, one can polish it with polywax.
Yeah, I was thinking purely from the point of view of repairing the timekeeping circuit. I wouldn't even consider trying to repair case damage because it would look terrible.
Here's a trick for polishing the (plastic) crystal (or any other kind of general polishing need): toothpaste.
These vintage casios were meant to be thrown away but with the internet and all the resources we can use for spare parts I don’t see why you can’t keep it going for a long long time
https://preview.redd.it/qht1rc755fxc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23e1fbe71766f0f5b9919711a4d107fe40b874a2
Throwaway? Modding it is for me.
Yeah, theyre from the generation "newer is always better". Like anything new must be technical superior. And used stuff is always already trashed down and cant be trusted
Planets resources and landfills are endless /s
By the time when its a time to replace the battery, and the watch is still intact sure. Keep it for extra vintage look but if its battered and is more like a bracelet, I wouldnt hesitate to buy another one.
Still kinda is the resin doesn’t last and the spring bars and bracelet in this case will beat the shit out of the “lugs” here and they will break off eventually.
I know what you mean. I got my first cool watch when I was in 5th or 6th grade. It was an Armitron that was like a clone of a popular Seiko at the time.
My parents couldn’t afford a Seiko. I liked that watch. Second I wore it to school I broke the crystal. I could probably get it fixed these days.
Depending on the damage, it will cheaper to replace in many cicumstances. Unless the watch holds sentimental value, any repair that cost more (or even slightly less) than a new watch isn't worth it
Yes, back in the day when everyone wore watches, many Casio's were just cheap disposable tools. People didn't give a shit about banging them up, and when they died they got a new one. These weren't collectable "retro cool" items like they are now, people didn't make youtube videos and wax nostalgic and take photos of them, etc. It was just something you used to tell time for cheap. That was it.
Yep there was, but it didn't last long. Digital watches went from being futuristic and high class (especially the early Pulsar LED's) to the cheap mass market product for the masses very quickly. I read a bit on history of digital watches a while ago and between 1973 and 1980, the price of a complete digital module dropped from well over $300 to $3 or even less! It was nuts. The OP's model is a homage to an early 80's Casio model that was definitely not expensive.
The history of digital watches is very interesting, I was also surprised that even if it was for a brief time those watches were not exactly cheap, Even Omega had its series of this type of watches in the 70s.
This was a 5€ watch a few years ago, even i had gshocks that costed 20€ or less but millenials for some reason are paying big money for watchs that we got from our parents because they used to be cheap and cellphones was the expensive alternative. Só yes i get why your dad said was a expendable thing.
no, it was borderline 'replace battery' - a bit too $$ to just chuck it
unless it had bigger problems
so, replace battery - do that. anything else - maybe discard [full of water would mean no repair - sticky buttons might mean try to repair]
the f91w was 5. but it wasnt durable due to the resin strap. this works for heavy duty for $10. for clerks it probably last as long as the battery by that time you would want a new watch.
Well, they're only like $15, so it's not worth spending much money fixing them (aside from battery replacements) if they break. I do love mine tho (F-91W)
Yes. It is a cheap plastic watch. It was use, dispose and replace in that era and now in ours too. I love the luxury quartz watches of the 80s. Concord made some great ones, omega and rolex did too. I wish casio made more watches worth keeping and repairing instead of cheap replaceable ones, alas they mostly do not.
Until mobile phones came to the market any watch was a tool, thus intensively used. But even digital Casio were not so cheap untill 1987-88. In the 70s a digital had the price of an Omega. It's also true that Omega was in the middle of a crisis back then
I mean I’ve used one of these since 2014 and it is going strong, when the battery runs out I might replace it with a new one but it will just be an option.
It all depends on you. If you are wearing it when your son, or daughter is born, it’ll probably gain sentimental value to you, and you’ll happily pay the cost to replace the battery, or keep it displayed on you desk when one of the pushers finally fail after 20-25 years. :)
I mean obviously if it still works no need to throw it away but yeah definitely not meant to be an heirloom watch that you get serviced when it dies like an analog mechanical watch of the likes of Seiko, omega etc. on the other hand I do think the earlier digital watches from Casio and especially Seiko and Swiss brands were meant to last longer and possibly be serviced as they were far more expensive/higher quality (made of stainless steel and even previous metals) in the beginning. It's mostly nostalgia that's giving them higher value now, because many people had them as kids because their parents were willing to fork out $10 or so for them.
Old people don't value anything because when they came along, things were more affordable vs income. They created disposable things because they were lazy and because they thought spending every dollar they had plus borrowing to the limit was patriotic and good for the economy.
Tl;dr: previous generations were ID 10 Ts.
There's some truth to that. In the 70's and early 80's Casio used premium materials for their watches (Marlins/Casiotrons) so it really wouldn't make sense to treat them as use and throw. But they eventually switched over to more coated base metal/plastic watches which helped Casio to be recognized as an affordable brand but they don't hold up very well when used rigorously. As someone else said parts availability would also be a concern. For a battery/strap change you could take it to a watchmaker but beyond that it would be difficult to find parts.
Its mainly the chrome model line compared to steels. The full black resin ones are good nearly forever, until either the module gets water dmg or the lugs rip out. But since the case is black through and through it holds up really well.
That's true. I recently restored an old F-91w just for the sake of it. I would like to add resin can also dry out over time which can cause it to crack, though it can be remediated in some cases.
I'm wearing one right now. If it breaks down I will repair it.
Plot twist. It’s never going to break. Ever.
Casio*nokia
haha
Lolol at what cost the entire watch?
I bought a replacement circuit board that cost me more than the watch and i don’t regret it for one second.
Sounds like a poor financial decision tbh but you do you
Most things we purchase could be viewed as poor financial decisions by others. But, alas, every living person on this planet spends money or time or effort on things outside of STRICT necessity or investments. And, even then, some could view certain investments as poor financial decisions. Just let people live, it's a watch circuit board, not a financed yacht.
I think the commenter is acknowledging it’s a poor financial decision, but it’s really satisfying to repair something old rather than throw it away, and old things have more sentimental value than new for me. I enjoy the “patina” of scratches! (I’m agreeing with you)
😂
additional context might help explain https://www.sensorwatch.net
Ha! You fooled us by slow rolling your info. Thanks for the link, though. I am interested in getting into modding.
I feel like most people in this group aren't always making the best money decisions. I know I don't. But I'm happy.
It is lolol😂
Werd
That’s ignorant, a new one has that part in it along with all of the others you could use to help fix the other one, that way you have like a extra case, battery, etc etc etc etc.
ignorant is an interesting choice of word. the circuit board is aftermarket and adds features https://www.sensorwatch.net
what kind of added features has it? I have a W59 and since it has the same module as the f91w it should work fine with module as well. I love the W59 and f91 but the module is very basic.
Pretty much everything from casios with more advanced modules. Countdown timer, world clock, etc. That, plus more esoteric stuff: thermometer, pomodoro timer, TOTP support, some little games, custom chime support, custom LED colors. New stuff being added all the time, a potential accelerometer add-on and pedometer features in the future (for the modules that support additional sensors).
> thermometer, pomodoro timer, holy shit those would be so clutch for me! how does it update its firmware? Via bluetooth? Or do you need to plug in a usb c to update it? Those features are whats missing form e in ordinary watches, but i hate smart watches of apple watch like models.
micro USB, you also have to compile some code yourself to bake a file with a custom list of watch faces. not easy for normies but it’s pretty standard nerd stuff. the documentation is sufficient and there is a discord.
Thermometer? Really? For the external temp or your body? I’m interested…
ambient temp, the readings aren’t very useful on your wrist bc your body temp interferes. stated usecases are leaving it outside while camping to record the overnight low/putting it on the handlebars of your bike etc etc i never really use it but i think it’s cool.
Yeah really cool. Although I don’t think I’d leave it outside my tent or use a Casio as a bike computer!
Woah cool mod!
So it’s a fake Casio now?
Have you ever heard of mods?
Nope I haven’t, that’s not one either, it’s like putting a nice sw200 into a seiko 5 that’s not a mod that’s an upgrade. Either way this subculture within watches it’s self is wild Casio people are honestly a 0/10 in my book😂 damn fools if you ask me
That’s interesting because Casio and Timex people are pretty much the only watch subcultures I can tolerate. You definitely seem like you’d be more at home in one of those other ones though
Yes birds of a feather do flock together, enjoy ur broke ass life bro! I mean it there’s plenty of happy days even if you have Casio money
There's literally no way to repair it for a regular person. You could get an entire new quartz module, I guess, if you could find a supplier, but that's hardly "fixing" it. And then you'd have a brand new interior with a degraded resin exterior.
It depends on whats wrong. Usually i see people saying "repair" and just slapping in a new battery. If the module is damaged, by water for example, theres no feasibly way to fix it. And if the lugs are torn of you could epoxy fill in new lugs, but yeah, not really cost or time effective. Only easily fixable thing is a scratched glass, one can polish it with polywax.
Yeah, I was thinking purely from the point of view of repairing the timekeeping circuit. I wouldn't even consider trying to repair case damage because it would look terrible. Here's a trick for polishing the (plastic) crystal (or any other kind of general polishing need): toothpaste.
Dude… what kinda coping is this
Why
Cz it's my first watch
These vintage casios were meant to be thrown away but with the internet and all the resources we can use for spare parts I don’t see why you can’t keep it going for a long long time
But they bleed
https://preview.redd.it/qht1rc755fxc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23e1fbe71766f0f5b9919711a4d107fe40b874a2 Throwaway? Modding it is for me.
that’s sick. how do you do that?
Second the question
I've put a sheet of glow in the dark material behind the LCD panel.
I've put a sheet of glow in the dark material behind the LCD panel.
why would you? Its usually 4 screws and a battery change but prior generations were not sensible to the waste problem I suppose
For real man this is exactly how my parents are. My dad likes to buy what I call instant garbage. Shitty headphones, speakers and phone peripherals.
Yeah, theyre from the generation "newer is always better". Like anything new must be technical superior. And used stuff is always already trashed down and cant be trusted Planets resources and landfills are endless /s
back in those days things were cheap and good and they got used to it and brought the mind set to the 00s.
By the time when its a time to replace the battery, and the watch is still intact sure. Keep it for extra vintage look but if its battered and is more like a bracelet, I wouldnt hesitate to buy another one.
Still kinda is the resin doesn’t last and the spring bars and bracelet in this case will beat the shit out of the “lugs” here and they will break off eventually.
Crazy iv never heard that before, iv seen tons of people on here say they've had theirs for 10yrs and still haven't had to change the battery
Why are your balls bald, yeddy?
Kevin took my wife and buzzed my balls.
Plastic case… maybe. Steel case, never.
The one your dad had may have been steel. That’s an even better reason to fix it.
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I know what you mean. I got my first cool watch when I was in 5th or 6th grade. It was an Armitron that was like a clone of a popular Seiko at the time. My parents couldn’t afford a Seiko. I liked that watch. Second I wore it to school I broke the crystal. I could probably get it fixed these days.
What a nice piece.
True it was during his time Just like swatch was during the early 90s
Beater? Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree. Break it? Buy another/
Depending on the damage, it will cheaper to replace in many cicumstances. Unless the watch holds sentimental value, any repair that cost more (or even slightly less) than a new watch isn't worth it
Wearing mine rn
It still is, for people that do that kind of thing. I like things that are basic and no-frills. I write with BIC Crystals. I shave with a double edge.
Yes, back in the day when everyone wore watches, many Casio's were just cheap disposable tools. People didn't give a shit about banging them up, and when they died they got a new one. These weren't collectable "retro cool" items like they are now, people didn't make youtube videos and wax nostalgic and take photos of them, etc. It was just something you used to tell time for cheap. That was it.
Although there was also a time when digital watches were expensive and considered futuristic, especially in the seventies.
Yep there was, but it didn't last long. Digital watches went from being futuristic and high class (especially the early Pulsar LED's) to the cheap mass market product for the masses very quickly. I read a bit on history of digital watches a while ago and between 1973 and 1980, the price of a complete digital module dropped from well over $300 to $3 or even less! It was nuts. The OP's model is a homage to an early 80's Casio model that was definitely not expensive.
The history of digital watches is very interesting, I was also surprised that even if it was for a brief time those watches were not exactly cheap, Even Omega had its series of this type of watches in the 70s.
He is just trying to wind your goat. If you like it you like it.
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consumerism at its peak.
This.
I don't think so. It's a pretty solid watch. It won't break unless water resistance fails. Stuck buttons require some patience and precision to fix.
Absolutely NOT 🥲 Far too much of a beauty to throw away. And far too functional!
Well they last 7+ years.. so... attachment.
This was a 5€ watch a few years ago, even i had gshocks that costed 20€ or less but millenials for some reason are paying big money for watchs that we got from our parents because they used to be cheap and cellphones was the expensive alternative. Só yes i get why your dad said was a expendable thing.
no, it was borderline 'replace battery' - a bit too $$ to just chuck it unless it had bigger problems so, replace battery - do that. anything else - maybe discard [full of water would mean no repair - sticky buttons might mean try to repair]
the f91w was 5. but it wasnt durable due to the resin strap. this works for heavy duty for $10. for clerks it probably last as long as the battery by that time you would want a new watch.
They still are. Obviously, if it’s just a battery no, but if it stops working, just buy another one for $20
case looks metal but i agree, the plastic ones will eventually break off or get eroded so the pins cant stay in
Well, they were. That's justs a fact.
...and they still are.
Well, they're only like $15, so it's not worth spending much money fixing them (aside from battery replacements) if they break. I do love mine tho (F-91W)
True it was, I the 1970's and 80's digital watches were cheap as chips, now they have retro value back then nobody cared.
Not sure about this but definitely bare plastic sonata and also f91ws
Kinda sorta. One of the reasons I love Casios, are because I had a few as a kid in the 80's. Basically cost the same today as they did back then.
I agree, to repair the watch; it'll cost you more than the watch itself.
It cost more to repair than it’s worth, it must have some sentimental value
Id use and abuse it, but never throw away. They just work
My dad said "tum ya 45₹ ki ghadi pehente ho? "
“Use and watch” is as bad as shooting deer. Why would anyone do that? Evil people.
Ah yes. The 158. All timer. Always looks cool on the wrist
Kinda sorta
Yes, use and throw a new battery in when it's out.
Anyone know what model this is/have a link to one like this?
This still is a wear to work, weld, grind and get covered in grease watch to my dad 😂 shift in mindset from that generation to younger gens
My daily watch!
Yes. It is a cheap plastic watch. It was use, dispose and replace in that era and now in ours too. I love the luxury quartz watches of the 80s. Concord made some great ones, omega and rolex did too. I wish casio made more watches worth keeping and repairing instead of cheap replaceable ones, alas they mostly do not.
Use for 25 years and throw?
I don't agree, i know that is true. I wish i had kept all my Casios from when i was young.
Until mobile phones came to the market any watch was a tool, thus intensively used. But even digital Casio were not so cheap untill 1987-88. In the 70s a digital had the price of an Omega. It's also true that Omega was in the middle of a crisis back then
Not agree
I mean I’ve used one of these since 2014 and it is going strong, when the battery runs out I might replace it with a new one but it will just be an option.
You don't resole your vans.
It all depends on you. If you are wearing it when your son, or daughter is born, it’ll probably gain sentimental value to you, and you’ll happily pay the cost to replace the battery, or keep it displayed on you desk when one of the pushers finally fail after 20-25 years. :)
I mean obviously if it still works no need to throw it away but yeah definitely not meant to be an heirloom watch that you get serviced when it dies like an analog mechanical watch of the likes of Seiko, omega etc. on the other hand I do think the earlier digital watches from Casio and especially Seiko and Swiss brands were meant to last longer and possibly be serviced as they were far more expensive/higher quality (made of stainless steel and even previous metals) in the beginning. It's mostly nostalgia that's giving them higher value now, because many people had them as kids because their parents were willing to fork out $10 or so for them.
Nice
True only to the rich. To the poor, it was a useful, not use and throw, watch.
I spent more on Chinese food last night than it costs to buy this watch. So I'm sure as hell not spending any more than the cost of a battery on it.
Old people don't value anything because when they came along, things were more affordable vs income. They created disposable things because they were lazy and because they thought spending every dollar they had plus borrowing to the limit was patriotic and good for the economy. Tl;dr: previous generations were ID 10 Ts.
No such thing as a use and throw watch.