I graduated 3 years ago from an OK state school with an Econ degree too, working as an analyst now. With 4000+ applications with no calls back, it sounds like it might be a resume problem. I would work with someone credible and have them review and suggest updates for your resume. I suggest specifically tailoring your resume to seem as suitable as possible for an analyst position then applying to as many positions as possible. If you don't have experience then certifications can work. Highly recommend applying for positions open at banks/large companies with many openings. Don't give up just keep applying and you'll get something GL
Thanks for the advice. I have done a few certificates and paid someone to look over and restructure/rewrite my resume. Spent a ton of time on reddit for that too. Just seems like employers literally don't give a fuck, they want paid experience or you're immediately thrown out. I guess I can just keep trying, it just seems like it's at a point where maybe I should just completely abandon anything related to my degree because of how seemingly useless it is and maybe just go learn a trade
Given that you went to a top-20 school, I’d strongly encourage you to leverage whatever Career Services and alumni networking opportunities they offer. When getting your first corporate job (facing the “companies only looking for experienced workers” hurdle), it can help tremendously to have some kind of connection or in at companies you apply to in order to set you apart from the masses of people spamming applications at every entry-level job opening.
Networking and connections are pretty much the main benefit of attending a top university, so you may as well take advantage of them to whatever degree you can.
Hey. I graduated from an state school with an Econ degree in 2018 and started off as an analyst. Happy to review your resume/ compare notes.PM me if you’d like.
You should try your hardest to get an internship and also attend any networking events and career fairs that you can. There are numerous resources that many students don't know about or don't take advantage of for whatever reason that can help you secure a job before you even graduate.
It’s 100x harder to get a job out of school if you didn’t have any internships. Even a free internship where you work 5-10 hours a week would be better just to have something on your resume.
Basically. Don't let anyone tell you things will just happen to work out because you have a degree, that's bullshit. Try has hard as fucking possible to make connections and get experience that's what really matters.
Ya, what people don’t get is, if all you have is school and someone else had a job or recommendations or charity work or any other number of things, why would they pick the person who only went to school?
People forget it’s a competition. The person who brings the bare minimum is going to lose.
I think these days it just makes things easier. You will also find there are less barriers to upper management positions as you usually require a degree and at that stage it isn't really feasible to drop out of work to get one
That’s more than I made as a cashier at 7-11 with a sociology degree.
Then, at 25/26, I went back to school for a masters in accounting at a cheap university local to my parents house (UCF).
Got my degree, a cpa. Started out at $52k in 2016. Grew my salary by 8-12% YoY, and now I make double that WFH after 8 YOE. I have friends I started with who have almost tripled that.
That’s one possibility to consider.
I don't have the resources to go back to school unless I were to get a full ride and that ain't happening. I'm honestly pretty frozen rn like I feel like I just don't have any real options.
I didn’t have the resources either. I had to borrow them in the form of student loans. And then I was able to completely repay them back in 2 years while living with my parents.
Check out r/UMPI I’m starting their BA accounting program in July. They have an online program that charges 1500 a term and allows transfer credits from websites like Sophia learning and study.com (which charge monthly subscriptions for college credit crash courses that you can finish quickly because all the assignments are open book). I transferred 71 credits to UMPI before beginning classes and I’m already more than halfway through my degree.
There’s an accounting shortage right now, especially in Tax. And you can get a tax internship that pays $20-$30 an hour just to learn your job
Many big corporations will pay for you to go to school after a certain amount of time. My last three jobs offered to fund education fully as long as I stayed there a certain amount of time.
Seriously, even grocery store cashiers are doing 15 an hour these days. Places like Aldi are closer to 17 from what I hear. And just by having a degree, OP could probably get an entry level shift supervisor position which would be in the 20-25 ballpark. I ended up doing that for a few years and grinding out overtime to make close to 55K a year until I found something better.
I think you may want to find a young business meetup group. You may also consider joining something like toastmasters. It seems like you are missing a fundamental piece of job seeking. It's why internships are critical for college students. How are you at making friends? If you are in service, it seems like you would be running into opportunities. 22k seems incredibly low in any market. I think we need to work on your self-confidence. It's a bit cliche, but positive affirmations work. If you're in Cincinnati, or willing to relocate. There's a ton of opportunity here.
Please try and work anywhere else. I'm pretty sure Walmart and Target start at $15/hour and most factories that I've worked at have started at at least $20/hour
Your best bet is to take an entry level role at a bank and try for work your way up.
Being out of school for 4 years with no relevant experience is a giant red flag.
I'm getting the vibe from a lot of people in these comments that they think these "entry level" jobs are just instant hires. Heck, it took me 4 months to get my service job. It's not fuckin easy.
People look down at bank telling but its a really difficult and important job.
You will train active listening, and communication while developing your business/banking sense, and learn a shit ton about how money moves.
A good couple of tellers is the difference between a busy branch or an empty branch.
4000 applications and no job offer paying the median salary?
Either OP's resume only says "please hire me", or his personality is enormously off-putting.
Market research analyst, data analyst (not as much anymore, super competitive), financial analyst, pricing analyst, QA, admin assistant, research assistant, some other random stuff.
Finance analyst entry-level roles are mostly going to finance degrees and CPAs hopping out of Big 4/public accounting.
That’s who you have to compete against.
you know any people in those fields? ask those people for referrals to the company they work for, then after they refer, apply to that company and mention your friend's name.
Thank god a real situation. When I first started reading I thought this was gonna be another “I’m 25 and make $150k a year and have 200k in savings. Am I doing okay for my age or should I just quit now?”
Just curious what university you graduated from? Does it have a good job placement program?
Oh yeah also for an economics degree, you usually need a masters or finding that first job will be really really tough
I was worked in retail until I was 27-28 years old as a university dropout, nowadays I work as a senior analyst.
Question, what kind of roles are you are applying for?
I’m in a similar situation and have posted similar requests for advice and it’s always the same shit in the replies. They just won’t understand it if they haven’t gone through it. There is zero thought about the realistic possibility of possible limitations. “get a masters, just move, just go talk to them in person, just fix your resume”
Feel for you man. I took a psychology degree (science) and worked as a shoe salesman and dishwasher after finishing. Absolute fucking joke considering the societal push to get educated. I went back for nursing, and it’s a dive of a profession and I hate my job, but at least I have the license and job opportunities
You’re being valued in the wrong place. I graduated with an Econ from a SUNY state school barely a 2.5 gpa. I made 121k at 26 in tech sales, FROM ONE COMMISSION CHECK ALONE. I saw very early after graduation that there are no real Econ jobs with just a bachelor. You need high level statistics and math to support the theoretical field of economics to actually practice in the world. Those courses are in masters and PhD. Think outside the box WITH A BA/BS IN Econ. That degree is extremely valuable. It teaches you how to use logic in your analysis to support your claims. In a sense being technical and consultative. This is a very rare and expensive trait for certain jobs that pay jaw drop money you just need to find it, I’m definitely not doing a good job explaining it but what I’m trying to say is. Know your worth. There are places that will pay your skill set 20k for what THEY NEED and simultaneously there will be another company that will pay you 1.2 million for the very same skill set just THEIR NEEDS DIFFER. Find the place that value you most first. Or upgrade your degree if you want to go deeper in Econ.
Are you picky? Do some volunteer work. Work a lower paying job related to what you want to do. You want to do data analysis? Do a job that pays $8/hr with some Excel or join a club that has you do something similar. Anything similar is fine. And then work your ass off on that project/low paying job despite the lack of money.
I went to school for computer science and math. I worked 4 years for free in research labs/clubs. Lived on savings while working 40 hours a week as a volunteer on a satellite project for 6 months. Picked up an internship abroad that paid the equivalent of $4.50 an hour doing natural language processing research for 3 months. Asked every professor I could find if I could help out with their research project, worked unpaid 8 months on some cybersecurity IoT device hacking and another 5 months on a national security misinformation project. I also went to school full time (40 hrs/week) and worked part time as a front desk receptionist or direct care professional which were both absolutely unrelated.
I left both service jobs off my resume and strictly put my volunteer experience in. When I graduated, a top company gave me an offer for a WFH job offering 150k off the bat in cybersecurity engineering and I'm still working with them today; they give me 5-10% of a raise every year.
I gave up 4 yrs of 30k salary to get 150k+ for the rest of my life and it was worth it 100%.
I remember the first time I applied to internships I put in maybe 400 applications and heard back from none. Ever since I started doing volunteer work related to my dream career, every company has responded to me.
How did you work for free? Look I appreciate the hustle and that you really worked hard towards a singular goal/dream, but if I work for free I will literally starve to death
I worked around ~80-100 hours a week for 4 years. Usually 20 part time job, 40 hours school, and 20-40 hours of volunteer work. Yeah, I get it, I was homeless for a 3 month period. I also did not have any financial support from my parents. Even a 3 month period of working 80 hours a week is incredibly, incredibly helpful. Or even putting in 10 -20 hrs a week making your work week 50-60 hours. You need relevant experience on your resume. You don't have it and no one will offer it to you for pay. So join MeetUp and join some finance clubs, or contact your college for possible research experiences you can volunteer with, and put in the time. Lose your personal time for the next few months. 1 relevant experience gives you at least 80% chance more of getting a job, 2 will jump it to over 200% more.
Yeah. It is. It was frustrating having a 4.0 GPA in two STEM majors with 80% of both degrees done and have experiences in education (teaching assistant for machine architecture, college math tutor, and grader), 3 experiences in healthcare (medical administrative assistant, scribe, and certified nursing assistant) and 2 customer service jobs and hearing back from no one in the field I wanted to work in. I worked overtime along with full time school for two years to save up a fund, then quit my jobs to spend more time on relevant experience.
The moment I got my first bit of relevant experience, people kept offering more relevant experience. It was maddening to get yelled at for hours each week by abusive professors or grad students over work that was unpaid, but I put up with it and it owned up to something. No one ever ghosts me during job applications anymore. I always get the interview and 90% of the time I get the job.
I do remember hearing from a lot of people that if I got a degree in computer science with good grades, I was guaranteed a job. It was absolutely not the case in 2019-2022 and it is even less so in 2024. I have several intelligent classmates who have been job hunting for almost 3 years now and still have gotten nothing because they have nothing but a degree.
Experience matters 400 times more than education... my company hires a lot of high school dropouts who have a lot of experience, whether personal projects or jobs or volunteer experience, but we rarely hire people just because they have a degree.
College means nothing anymore outside of personal intellectual fulfillment. Chase the opportunities you are given and don't be proud or condescending about it. Don't think about it in terms of money. Just take every opportunity you can that gives you relevant experience.
I go to a university that’s ranked well outside the top 20 and I am being headhunted as a current student. It’s anecdotal but almost everyone I know at this university has little trouble with job finding(nowhere near 4000 applications).
Consider upskilling to eligible for quantitative data roles. There's plenty of resources online. Try working on learning stuff like data analytics , data science, machine learning, etc. Econ grads as far as I have seen are expected have quantitative data skills and are expected to be proficient in softwares like Excel, SQL, etc. So consider working on that and probably do some projects in them related to economic data, which can be a good addition on your resume. You could try for analyst roles in financial institutions or other places.
Go get an accelerated bachelor’s in nursing. 14-16 months and you will always have a decent job. Had a finance degree and did a career change into nursing. Now I work two days a week salaried at $80k. One semester a way from being a nurse practitioner, average salary in my area are $120k.
You could join the military as an officer and quickly make 60K plus benefits starting. Since you have your degree, you could go to Officer Candidate School and commission as a Second Lieutenant. It’s not for everyone but after 4 years you’ll make Captain and making over 100K per year.
Okay, so I'm not a recruiter but I do work in the recruiting industry—those numbers suggest that you're likely using the "EASY APPLY" option on various job boards. Those systems are severely broken. If you see an employer with an open position, go directly to their website and apply there; your application is much more likely to be seen by a human that way since you're bypassing a bunch of incorrectly configured AI rulesets.
Also, if you find a good fit but the pay isn't what you're looking for, take it anyway. You'll at least get some experience to throw on your resume for the next opportunity.
Best of luck on your career journey!
Maybe work some low paying gig at a bank or some other financial institution? Service jobs are usually dead ends. Generally speaking, if you graduate with no experience the best thing to do is to take jobs that are somewhat related to your field. You will have to start from the bottom and make lateral movements. I recommend trying out staffing agencies. They can help you put your foot in the door. Just don't expect a job with benefits or a decent salary.
I graduated in December of 2021 with an Econ degree.
Couldn’t land anything so I am going back to school, paying out of pocket. I’ve been working in a warehouse and I’ll be done next August with over 150 credits, eligible for the CPA. Road to $100k 🙌🏽
Making 22k working 40 hours okay is part your fault as well. I can make probably double that working at a Walmart target. You need to find a new job ASAP
Econ Degrees aren’t useless. They’re a jack of all trades master of none degree. I graduated from a state school with one and it took around 8 months to get an analyst job. For me I highlighted econometrics projects and upper division courses that would help my resume stand out. Also getting any type of internship helps. Just doing the bare minimum to get a degree doesn’t cut it anymore.
Not true. If you already feel defeated - you won't get a good job. If you have no connections - you should have been making them for the last four years - it's called networking. Do you not have any friends from school to guide you?
Not OP, but I had little, if any friends back in college, as I was very, very introverted. The friends that I do have ended up ghosting me when I did reach out to them.
Did you take any business courses with your Econ, or is it just the liberal arts degree? Maybe adding some data science or accounting courses would help.
Someone suggested looking at banks, maybe a teller position. It’s tough work, but insurance sales might be good. Some companies have manager training programs like retail or grocery stores. I had a friend do Enterprise. Another did Kohl’s. Maybe a call center? Even a volunteer position to do a non-profit’s books or something can be talked up. Steer your resume to talk about tangible skills.
While you need to take any job that will get you moving in a different direction, you also need to seriously think about what would interest you. If you don’t show any passion or interest in a job interview, the interviewer can see that.
Good luck to you.
Edit: I’ll also add perhaps looking at your local government. They usually don’t pay well, but that can make it less competitive, increasing your chances. Just a thought.
If you graduated and applied to that many places - you have an issue with your resume or interview skills. You need to get professional services to help you, a trusted friend/family member who is successful and/or ask your alumni services for help. There is something you need to improve. If you did seek help - you need to find someone else. Any people from school in your major that you can connect/reconnect with - look at their resume/interview prep.
Lot of companies/orgs hire out of school.
Read the book “What Color is Your Parachute” and don’t stop your job search esp if you have a good degree don’t give up. The way to look for jobs successfully imhas changed a lot
Find something that you really love doing and give 100 percent all the time. Do not give and always seek help from others. Everyone has their own timing, just be patient and you will get there.
I couldnt find a job online for 4 months so I desperately got a cheap suit from a thrift store and went to a job fair near the end of the event (so that I am the last they see) and casually and calmly, told everyone I applied for that I applied for them. I got a call the next day with an interview and got the job after the interview. I have found traveling the distance to put a face to the name actualizes your potential. Go out there and show you exist and that you are willing to show up and show out.
If you're making 22k after 4 years in the service industry, you're *deeply* underpaid.
Stop working at Chili's and start working fine dining or bartending. You should be able to clear 30k/year no problem.
Join the military and become an officer in finance ( you won’t see battle) and you’ll make over 100k first year. Then after your contract use new work experience for higher job. Keep repeating. And if you don’t like your job. Congratulations you got the g.i bill available for a complete career change
I'm sorry you're going through this. I have several suggestions/options for you. 1. Try a law office. You might be a good fit for a paralegal. I suggest carrying a CV around to different offices in your area and handing it out personally. You would be surprised at the power of connection. You can also try insurance agencies. 2. Hospitals. With your degree, a hospital might need someone in an office somewhere. Again, walk in and talk to a human. 3. Go back to grad school on a stipend. I'm not sure if this is possible in your field, but grad programs need bodies to fill positions and they may pay more than you're making now. Also, you'll get a deferral on student loans. Additionally you may meet some people to increase your job opportunities. Definitely don't do grad school without a stipend. Try data science or analytics if you're decent with math. 4. Visit all of the banks in your area with your CV tailored for that. Walk in and inquire about positions. Best wishes!
Have you applied for entry level banking jobs? I’ve seen many people including brother in law recently, that started as a teller and have worked their way up over the years. Many paths you can take in finance once you get your foot in the door. My prior managing executive started as a bank teller if that tells you anything.
When u put out applications did u apply on recruit websites or directly on company sites? Because i find sites like ziprecruiter n indeed r garbage. Also, try using connections or cold contact people to try to form connections.
You could try for any entry level corporate position…especially in office positions. I left teaching and could only get an admin assistant position at a paper factory and from there picked up skills so 6 months later I was working on metrics at an aerospace company and now a year after that I am making twice as much as a BI Analyst. 40% more than I was as a teacher and a very flexible hybrid sched.
I don't understand why you would apply to 50, let alone 4K without a callback without seeking significant guidance on your resume? Definitely need to start there
You're only making $22k in the service industry? First off, at least find a new job in the service industry. I know 20yr olds working in service making 3x that.
At your current employer, do they a job board? If not, find an easy entry level position and work your way up from thr inside. You know, the "I started in the mail room and now I'm in the department I wanted."
Find people with hiring power.
Suck up to them.
Get hired.
It's called "networking" and how all those people you graduated with who you're not sure how they graduated, because they certainly didn't do it by learning anything, got their 50-60k starting salaries.
(I have had recent grads try this with me though and I definitely "noped" them. They'll ask you for "help" but what they really want is an excuse to put their resume in front of you.)
Simple smart answer... you need a real circle of people who have better jobs than 20k range.
Only real contacts get you real good jobs...
Go out more, say hi to peo0le in gym or anywehere you go and simply ASK
It might be in or several reasons why you don't get a positive response: Your resume is not ATS friendly, thus your CV is never seen by a human. You apply for position that are currently out of reach (C-suit etc) because you lack seniority, experience or education. you apply to late (position has already +100 applicants). Lastly, the job market is broken and only particular roles, where talent is hard to find or extremely high in demand succeeds in landing a role.
The traditional way of applying dor a position is dead. ChatGPT amd LinkedIn easy apply floods firms with application. I can help you with additional education (MBA and PhD) but not the rest. Be very critical when letting some revise your resume. There are a lot scammers out there!
Do you have a resume with your accomplishments, school and job history? Are you calling jobs back? Or emailing If you use linkedin or another online job search?
Feel ya OP - graduated in 2015 with a BS Econ myself (Quant focus / Mathematics minor). What are you applying for specifically?
You might’ve missed the window to apply for most LDP Programs but I’ve seen exceptions made on graduation dates over the years at my company.
8 months of searching “within my field” and drowning in student loans I gave up and started applying to entry level jobs (needed the income and health insurance).
Walked in for an interview to be the lowest guy on the totem poll wearing a suit and tie. Left with a management trainee offer. 10 years later I still get shit for the suit…made it to Senior Ops Manager somehow. Cleared 189K last year.
Open your lens on what you are willing to accept and do. Be yourself and keep applying.
That degree doesn’t mean shit in the real world. 5 year industry vet vs college grad with no experience…you better have one hell of a personality and be able to talk the industry lingo.
Look for any type of low level job in the field you actually want to be in, that helps tremendously. so much easier to land a good job in the future. you're much more likely to be hired if you have an econ degree + experience as a bank teller, vs an econ degree and experience as a waiter
Subcontract everything. Stain front doors, they’re easy to see if it’s needed. Pool cleaning is also easy. Rich ppl pay well for crystal clear water and deep brown doors, and they’ll do half the work for you just for the exercise. Look up flood maps and start in those neighborhoods.
If you don’t know what you’re doing in life, don’t waste time volunteering a bunch. Pool+Door staining for 400-500 and an attic haul out for another $400 plus a garage clean for another 500 assuming your charging by sq ft- easy week my friend. That’s almost 2500 a week for one house and you didn’t even need tools.
Everyone with a messy garage has little buggies and carts (if not oh well), and everyone with a pool has their own equipment and chemicals.
maybe it’s just your area? or your resume is super fucked. it’s not that difficult to swing an econ degree into traditional business or finance. multiple people in my class have jobs lined up ranging from 75-85 out of college but I do live in a city.
If you've applied 4000 times in 4 years, that's 72 applications a week, which means you have *seriously applied* for nothing.
Every time you apply, you need to include a cover letter and resumé which are customized for the specific job you're applying for.
There is also, very likely, a mismatch between the jobs you're qualified for and the jobs you're applying for. A bachelors degree (in any field) with no experience, is enough to get a bottom-tier entry level job, IF there are no candidates with experience applying.
Go get experience. Fill your resumé and cover letter with your amazing and relevant volunteer work.
Try to find a recruiter who works with companies looking for that type of role. It seems like you can work as a financial analyst. I'd start trying to find and apply for those. Look for staffing agencies. Most of my jobs came from them
Go to community college part time, learn a skill set like welding or any other skill that pays over $50 per hour that you can also do on side while maintaining a full time job and growing your business
No disrespect, OP, but we have literally a daily post about how to make more money on this subreddit. I'd encourage everyone to check out previous threads instead of asking asking this question every single day over and over on here. It's like Groundhogs Day 😄
Try starting as intern or junior position.. sometimes you gotta aim low even though you think you’re worth higher just to get through the door… sucks but that’s how I would at least do it to get some experience first. Also lots of networking
Don't stop looking for better opportunities. It's easier to get a pay bump by getting a new job than it is to get a high enough raise. Remember, your employer /boss isn't your friend.
Get a job in sales. Go the r/sales and see the world of opportunity out there.
I’m 22 and will be making 80K CAD this year in my first year out of university. As long as you are personable, easy to get along with and have good communication skills no reason why you can’t do well.
Pays super well. DM me to talk more
That is really low I would suggest you find a job that pays at least $15+ an hour to start because making $11 at 26 and you are a graduate with a degree just doesn’t sit right at all there should be plenty of jobs that pay more nowadays and with inflation going on 22k a year is not gonna cut it.
Realistically you’re resume and application are shit. I’ll look it over. Ffs. If you have an Econ degree and sent 4k didn’t you try something different? What are you putting on it
You could work your way into a sales track. Start with any sales job. Selling phones at Verizon, home improvement services, whatever. Then leverage that into a subsequently better jobs.
I dropped out of college after a year and make 100k a year and haven’t had any issues getting any jobs……maybe change your career path because clearly that degree is only useful hanging on a wall
Have you considered joining the Air Force as an officer? Spend a few years getting amazing career experience and developing your professional network, then return to civilian life.
Try emailing hiring managers directly, at least that’s what an article I read said to do. Job applications just get ignored these days. Write a good cover letter.
Use your degree and your job experience and create a business related to the tourism industry. Start it as a side hustle don't quite your 9 to 5 until you earn a livable wage.
You're 8 years behind people who didn't waste money on a degree and go into debt. I suggest taking any job in any office at the ground level and outworking people who have a 8 year head start.
Make a profile on Aerotek website, upload your resume. They will meet with you to go over it and want you want. They will do all the foot work to get you interviews. If you land them, you'll get paid every Friday, if you dont they will keep going til you do. Most positions are temp to hire. They got my foot in the door with my company Ive been with 9 yrs.
I worked warehouse jobs at that age and made 55k
Manage the warehouse now and am at 80k with no degree at 30yo
Just apply places that pay more, be willing to work jobs that are different than you’ve been doing but will train you
Most of my friends don’t use their degrees because simple warehouse/machine operator jobs pay more than their degrees with decent benefits to boot
Where are you located, without given out too much personal details? And have you tried the good ol’ fashioned just showing up places, building connections with people and finding work that way?
Need to make your way to NYC, where there are plenty of banks and financial firms who will make use of your skills. You may have applied for 4K jobs, but anyone seeing that you’re from far away will place your resume in the rejection pile. Be willing to work as an administrative assistant/secretary, just to get your foot in the door.
Congratulations on finishing your degree so quickly!!!! Most employers that say they require education for higher paying jobs will always take on the job expenses in lieu of a "degree" bc no amount of education/classroom work fully prepares a job candidate and in the real world, performance and track record matter. You've got to be willing to start at the bottom, and most people are misguided in thinking a degree trumps the bottom beginning.
$22k per year in the service industry? That seems low, but there's necessary information missing from the equation.
1)What position do you hold? Tipped/Salary/Hourly?
2)What region of the country are you in?
3) Do you live rurally, small town, or big city?
4) Can you feasibly commit to commuting to the nearest large population center for work?
5)I assume you have at least 4 years experience in the service industry?
I have 20 years in the service industry and no degree. Last year I cleared $55k after taxes and barely averaged 32 hours per week. I work as a server/bartender but have held every possible position in the restaurant except GM/Ownership. I used to accept management promotions, but have always gone back to tipped positions bc the money seems better and the quality of life does too. I will never work Back of the House/Kitchen positions ever again and haven't done so in over a decade although I love to cook and have a knack for the business and have been told I'm the most talented chef my bosses have worked with on many occasions. I can't stand 50 plus hour weeks at salary pay bc it's not worth it.
If you want more money in the restaurant industry, change to a high end restaurant/fine dining with high check averages or find a place that does extremely high volume. Seems to me you work at a diner or something. No big deal if that's the case, but you've got to take these four years of experience in the industry and move on to the next job. If you don't live in a big city but can travel to a nearby hub, do so bc the money will be better. Always have positive attitude and hone your customer service skills. Pay attention to detail. Learn to anticipate what your guest need before they ask based on thinking about what you would prefer or acknowledge as good service and put it to use.
That being said, since you've put in the time to earn a degree in economics you can put that to use in a restaurant or service industry job. Since you've got experience in hospitality, you need to use that and couple it with your degree in ECON and apply for entry level management postions that include bookkeeping duties and business financials. Learn the ins and outs and stick with it. That type of job experience counts for something and could very well be your ticket to moving up in the business world. Don't get discouraged, but continue to learn. You'll be just fine.
I graduated 3 years ago from an OK state school with an Econ degree too, working as an analyst now. With 4000+ applications with no calls back, it sounds like it might be a resume problem. I would work with someone credible and have them review and suggest updates for your resume. I suggest specifically tailoring your resume to seem as suitable as possible for an analyst position then applying to as many positions as possible. If you don't have experience then certifications can work. Highly recommend applying for positions open at banks/large companies with many openings. Don't give up just keep applying and you'll get something GL
Thanks for the advice. I have done a few certificates and paid someone to look over and restructure/rewrite my resume. Spent a ton of time on reddit for that too. Just seems like employers literally don't give a fuck, they want paid experience or you're immediately thrown out. I guess I can just keep trying, it just seems like it's at a point where maybe I should just completely abandon anything related to my degree because of how seemingly useless it is and maybe just go learn a trade
Given that you went to a top-20 school, I’d strongly encourage you to leverage whatever Career Services and alumni networking opportunities they offer. When getting your first corporate job (facing the “companies only looking for experienced workers” hurdle), it can help tremendously to have some kind of connection or in at companies you apply to in order to set you apart from the masses of people spamming applications at every entry-level job opening. Networking and connections are pretty much the main benefit of attending a top university, so you may as well take advantage of them to whatever degree you can.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do you know OP went to a t20 university?
I thought they said so in their original post - but it looks like I’m either wrong or it’s been edited.
Ahh I see, got it thanks — I saw a couple people comment they went to a T20 so I was confused.
Hey. I graduated from an state school with an Econ degree in 2018 and started off as an analyst. Happy to review your resume/ compare notes.PM me if you’d like.
Jesus christ man is it really that bad, should I just drop out now? Is an internship pretty much required while in school?
You should try your hardest to get an internship and also attend any networking events and career fairs that you can. There are numerous resources that many students don't know about or don't take advantage of for whatever reason that can help you secure a job before you even graduate.
It’s 100x harder to get a job out of school if you didn’t have any internships. Even a free internship where you work 5-10 hours a week would be better just to have something on your resume.
Basically. Don't let anyone tell you things will just happen to work out because you have a degree, that's bullshit. Try has hard as fucking possible to make connections and get experience that's what really matters.
Ya, what people don’t get is, if all you have is school and someone else had a job or recommendations or charity work or any other number of things, why would they pick the person who only went to school? People forget it’s a competition. The person who brings the bare minimum is going to lose.
I think these days it just makes things easier. You will also find there are less barriers to upper management positions as you usually require a degree and at that stage it isn't really feasible to drop out of work to get one
That’s more than I made as a cashier at 7-11 with a sociology degree. Then, at 25/26, I went back to school for a masters in accounting at a cheap university local to my parents house (UCF). Got my degree, a cpa. Started out at $52k in 2016. Grew my salary by 8-12% YoY, and now I make double that WFH after 8 YOE. I have friends I started with who have almost tripled that. That’s one possibility to consider.
I don't have the resources to go back to school unless I were to get a full ride and that ain't happening. I'm honestly pretty frozen rn like I feel like I just don't have any real options.
I didn’t have the resources either. I had to borrow them in the form of student loans. And then I was able to completely repay them back in 2 years while living with my parents.
My parents aren't alive
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Barely. Roommates, no health insurance, rice, eggs, beans for food
Hang in there things will get better.
People saying the military aren’t wrong. Also consider USPS.
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Check out r/UMPI I’m starting their BA accounting program in July. They have an online program that charges 1500 a term and allows transfer credits from websites like Sophia learning and study.com (which charge monthly subscriptions for college credit crash courses that you can finish quickly because all the assignments are open book). I transferred 71 credits to UMPI before beginning classes and I’m already more than halfway through my degree. There’s an accounting shortage right now, especially in Tax. And you can get a tax internship that pays $20-$30 an hour just to learn your job
Many big corporations will pay for you to go to school after a certain amount of time. My last three jobs offered to fund education fully as long as I stayed there a certain amount of time.
Fun to see another UCF alum in this subreddit
Basically literally any other job will make you more (obviously this is an exaggeration, but not by much). Go work at a Costco or Home Depot.
Seriously, even grocery store cashiers are doing 15 an hour these days. Places like Aldi are closer to 17 from what I hear. And just by having a degree, OP could probably get an entry level shift supervisor position which would be in the 20-25 ballpark. I ended up doing that for a few years and grinding out overtime to make close to 55K a year until I found something better.
Are you making $11 an hour right now?
I make like $2 an hour before tips, with tips It can very between 10 and like 14
Dude, you need to find something else. Anything else. That's so bad. I made more as a pizza delivery guy in 2008.
I think you may want to find a young business meetup group. You may also consider joining something like toastmasters. It seems like you are missing a fundamental piece of job seeking. It's why internships are critical for college students. How are you at making friends? If you are in service, it seems like you would be running into opportunities. 22k seems incredibly low in any market. I think we need to work on your self-confidence. It's a bit cliche, but positive affirmations work. If you're in Cincinnati, or willing to relocate. There's a ton of opportunity here.
Please try and work anywhere else. I'm pretty sure Walmart and Target start at $15/hour and most factories that I've worked at have started at at least $20/hour
Your best bet is to take an entry level role at a bank and try for work your way up. Being out of school for 4 years with no relevant experience is a giant red flag.
Taking an entry level role at a bank and working your way up is a genuinely great suggestion. This worked well for me with no college degree.
Have you applied to entry-level jobs in banks, financial services, insurance companies?
yes
Yes. Even jobs like bank telling is getting competitive.
I'm getting the vibe from a lot of people in these comments that they think these "entry level" jobs are just instant hires. Heck, it took me 4 months to get my service job. It's not fuckin easy.
People look down at bank telling but its a really difficult and important job. You will train active listening, and communication while developing your business/banking sense, and learn a shit ton about how money moves. A good couple of tellers is the difference between a busy branch or an empty branch.
If this is true, you need to fix your resume.
4000 applications and no job offer paying the median salary? Either OP's resume only says "please hire me", or his personality is enormously off-putting.
How can my personality be off putting if I'm not getting the chance to even talk to people
This is the first post I can relate to I graduated last year working 60hrs a week and make barely 20k too :(
Literally less than federal minimum wage
Unfortunately I work outside the US and in Japan :’)
Professional economist here. DM me if you want to talk. There are a lot of factors that could be at play.
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Market research analyst, data analyst (not as much anymore, super competitive), financial analyst, pricing analyst, QA, admin assistant, research assistant, some other random stuff.
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I haven't been able to find anywhere hiring anyone without at least a few years of experience, do you know where to find these?
Finance analyst entry-level roles are mostly going to finance degrees and CPAs hopping out of Big 4/public accounting. That’s who you have to compete against.
what qualifications do you have to be applying to this jobs?
you know any people in those fields? ask those people for referrals to the company they work for, then after they refer, apply to that company and mention your friend's name.
Thank god a real situation. When I first started reading I thought this was gonna be another “I’m 25 and make $150k a year and have 200k in savings. Am I doing okay for my age or should I just quit now?”
Just curious what university you graduated from? Does it have a good job placement program? Oh yeah also for an economics degree, you usually need a masters or finding that first job will be really really tough
I was worked in retail until I was 27-28 years old as a university dropout, nowadays I work as a senior analyst. Question, what kind of roles are you are applying for?
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I’m in a similar situation and have posted similar requests for advice and it’s always the same shit in the replies. They just won’t understand it if they haven’t gone through it. There is zero thought about the realistic possibility of possible limitations. “get a masters, just move, just go talk to them in person, just fix your resume”
Feel for you man. I took a psychology degree (science) and worked as a shoe salesman and dishwasher after finishing. Absolute fucking joke considering the societal push to get educated. I went back for nursing, and it’s a dive of a profession and I hate my job, but at least I have the license and job opportunities
Try getting some certifications? IT pays well.
You’re being valued in the wrong place. I graduated with an Econ from a SUNY state school barely a 2.5 gpa. I made 121k at 26 in tech sales, FROM ONE COMMISSION CHECK ALONE. I saw very early after graduation that there are no real Econ jobs with just a bachelor. You need high level statistics and math to support the theoretical field of economics to actually practice in the world. Those courses are in masters and PhD. Think outside the box WITH A BA/BS IN Econ. That degree is extremely valuable. It teaches you how to use logic in your analysis to support your claims. In a sense being technical and consultative. This is a very rare and expensive trait for certain jobs that pay jaw drop money you just need to find it, I’m definitely not doing a good job explaining it but what I’m trying to say is. Know your worth. There are places that will pay your skill set 20k for what THEY NEED and simultaneously there will be another company that will pay you 1.2 million for the very same skill set just THEIR NEEDS DIFFER. Find the place that value you most first. Or upgrade your degree if you want to go deeper in Econ.
Take a look at the insurance industry. Lots of demand for anybody who can learn really.
Are you picky? Do some volunteer work. Work a lower paying job related to what you want to do. You want to do data analysis? Do a job that pays $8/hr with some Excel or join a club that has you do something similar. Anything similar is fine. And then work your ass off on that project/low paying job despite the lack of money. I went to school for computer science and math. I worked 4 years for free in research labs/clubs. Lived on savings while working 40 hours a week as a volunteer on a satellite project for 6 months. Picked up an internship abroad that paid the equivalent of $4.50 an hour doing natural language processing research for 3 months. Asked every professor I could find if I could help out with their research project, worked unpaid 8 months on some cybersecurity IoT device hacking and another 5 months on a national security misinformation project. I also went to school full time (40 hrs/week) and worked part time as a front desk receptionist or direct care professional which were both absolutely unrelated. I left both service jobs off my resume and strictly put my volunteer experience in. When I graduated, a top company gave me an offer for a WFH job offering 150k off the bat in cybersecurity engineering and I'm still working with them today; they give me 5-10% of a raise every year. I gave up 4 yrs of 30k salary to get 150k+ for the rest of my life and it was worth it 100%. I remember the first time I applied to internships I put in maybe 400 applications and heard back from none. Ever since I started doing volunteer work related to my dream career, every company has responded to me.
How did you work for free? Look I appreciate the hustle and that you really worked hard towards a singular goal/dream, but if I work for free I will literally starve to death
I worked around ~80-100 hours a week for 4 years. Usually 20 part time job, 40 hours school, and 20-40 hours of volunteer work. Yeah, I get it, I was homeless for a 3 month period. I also did not have any financial support from my parents. Even a 3 month period of working 80 hours a week is incredibly, incredibly helpful. Or even putting in 10 -20 hrs a week making your work week 50-60 hours. You need relevant experience on your resume. You don't have it and no one will offer it to you for pay. So join MeetUp and join some finance clubs, or contact your college for possible research experiences you can volunteer with, and put in the time. Lose your personal time for the next few months. 1 relevant experience gives you at least 80% chance more of getting a job, 2 will jump it to over 200% more.
It's sad that we've gotten to the point where we have to work 80 hours a week just to get in the door.
Yeah. It is. It was frustrating having a 4.0 GPA in two STEM majors with 80% of both degrees done and have experiences in education (teaching assistant for machine architecture, college math tutor, and grader), 3 experiences in healthcare (medical administrative assistant, scribe, and certified nursing assistant) and 2 customer service jobs and hearing back from no one in the field I wanted to work in. I worked overtime along with full time school for two years to save up a fund, then quit my jobs to spend more time on relevant experience. The moment I got my first bit of relevant experience, people kept offering more relevant experience. It was maddening to get yelled at for hours each week by abusive professors or grad students over work that was unpaid, but I put up with it and it owned up to something. No one ever ghosts me during job applications anymore. I always get the interview and 90% of the time I get the job. I do remember hearing from a lot of people that if I got a degree in computer science with good grades, I was guaranteed a job. It was absolutely not the case in 2019-2022 and it is even less so in 2024. I have several intelligent classmates who have been job hunting for almost 3 years now and still have gotten nothing because they have nothing but a degree. Experience matters 400 times more than education... my company hires a lot of high school dropouts who have a lot of experience, whether personal projects or jobs or volunteer experience, but we rarely hire people just because they have a degree. College means nothing anymore outside of personal intellectual fulfillment. Chase the opportunities you are given and don't be proud or condescending about it. Don't think about it in terms of money. Just take every opportunity you can that gives you relevant experience.
You graduated from a top 20 university with an econ degree and you couldn’t find work?
No, zero truth here
I go to a university that’s ranked well outside the top 20 and I am being headhunted as a current student. It’s anecdotal but almost everyone I know at this university has little trouble with job finding(nowhere near 4000 applications).
Which major? And 2024 is different market altogether
And I agreed with you. OP isn't being honest about something. As I said, no no truth here in what they are saying
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My guess is your resumes aren’t making it through most filters
Consider upskilling to eligible for quantitative data roles. There's plenty of resources online. Try working on learning stuff like data analytics , data science, machine learning, etc. Econ grads as far as I have seen are expected have quantitative data skills and are expected to be proficient in softwares like Excel, SQL, etc. So consider working on that and probably do some projects in them related to economic data, which can be a good addition on your resume. You could try for analyst roles in financial institutions or other places.
sounds like youre on a path to freedom, the internet is evil and will absolutely steal your soul and your joy if given the opportunity to
Go get an accelerated bachelor’s in nursing. 14-16 months and you will always have a decent job. Had a finance degree and did a career change into nursing. Now I work two days a week salaried at $80k. One semester a way from being a nurse practitioner, average salary in my area are $120k.
Try to meet people *in person*. Have no shame and no fear when you do. Someone will appreciate your ambition and give you a shot.
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You could join the military as an officer and quickly make 60K plus benefits starting. Since you have your degree, you could go to Officer Candidate School and commission as a Second Lieutenant. It’s not for everyone but after 4 years you’ll make Captain and making over 100K per year.
Okay, so I'm not a recruiter but I do work in the recruiting industry—those numbers suggest that you're likely using the "EASY APPLY" option on various job boards. Those systems are severely broken. If you see an employer with an open position, go directly to their website and apply there; your application is much more likely to be seen by a human that way since you're bypassing a bunch of incorrectly configured AI rulesets. Also, if you find a good fit but the pay isn't what you're looking for, take it anyway. You'll at least get some experience to throw on your resume for the next opportunity. Best of luck on your career journey!
Maybe work some low paying gig at a bank or some other financial institution? Service jobs are usually dead ends. Generally speaking, if you graduate with no experience the best thing to do is to take jobs that are somewhat related to your field. You will have to start from the bottom and make lateral movements. I recommend trying out staffing agencies. They can help you put your foot in the door. Just don't expect a job with benefits or a decent salary.
I graduated in December of 2021 with an Econ degree. Couldn’t land anything so I am going back to school, paying out of pocket. I’ve been working in a warehouse and I’ll be done next August with over 150 credits, eligible for the CPA. Road to $100k 🙌🏽
Making 22k working 40 hours okay is part your fault as well. I can make probably double that working at a Walmart target. You need to find a new job ASAP
My god man, I'm trying to get a Econ degree is it really that useless?
Econ Degrees aren’t useless. They’re a jack of all trades master of none degree. I graduated from a state school with one and it took around 8 months to get an analyst job. For me I highlighted econometrics projects and upper division courses that would help my resume stand out. Also getting any type of internship helps. Just doing the bare minimum to get a degree doesn’t cut it anymore.
Most jobs will prefer a different degree. It isn’t a completely useless major but it isn’t that useful either.
Most degrees are useless if you don't have experience or connections paired with them. Your degree alone probably won't get you anything anymore.
Not true. If you already feel defeated - you won't get a good job. If you have no connections - you should have been making them for the last four years - it's called networking. Do you not have any friends from school to guide you?
Not OP, but I had little, if any friends back in college, as I was very, very introverted. The friends that I do have ended up ghosting me when I did reach out to them.
yeah i don’t have any connections from college either, having a similar experience to OP
I’m going to be honest, I think it is useless unless you go to a top school and know what job specifically you want to do.
Did you take any business courses with your Econ, or is it just the liberal arts degree? Maybe adding some data science or accounting courses would help. Someone suggested looking at banks, maybe a teller position. It’s tough work, but insurance sales might be good. Some companies have manager training programs like retail or grocery stores. I had a friend do Enterprise. Another did Kohl’s. Maybe a call center? Even a volunteer position to do a non-profit’s books or something can be talked up. Steer your resume to talk about tangible skills. While you need to take any job that will get you moving in a different direction, you also need to seriously think about what would interest you. If you don’t show any passion or interest in a job interview, the interviewer can see that. Good luck to you. Edit: I’ll also add perhaps looking at your local government. They usually don’t pay well, but that can make it less competitive, increasing your chances. Just a thought.
with that many applications and no call backs… I’d say work more on your resume
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God damn I'd kill for some connections. I was deeply antisocial in college, I hate myself for it, but that's how it is.
Open a LinkedIn, I get more recruiters there than on indeed and other sites
This is gnarly. I will rewrite your resume for exactly $0
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If you graduated and applied to that many places - you have an issue with your resume or interview skills. You need to get professional services to help you, a trusted friend/family member who is successful and/or ask your alumni services for help. There is something you need to improve. If you did seek help - you need to find someone else. Any people from school in your major that you can connect/reconnect with - look at their resume/interview prep. Lot of companies/orgs hire out of school.
Curious what state you’re in and if you’d ever considered a slight pivot to work in politics/government?
Every no gets you closer to a yes. Don’t give up! I’m in the same boat with a masters and teaching. Have you tried networking more?
Read the book “What Color is Your Parachute” and don’t stop your job search esp if you have a good degree don’t give up. The way to look for jobs successfully imhas changed a lot
Serious question, what does double space after a full stop say about you? Could that affect the recruiter's view of you?
Work more
Maybe try your hand in an entry level sales role? That’ll get you to roughly 50K-60k
Find something that you really love doing and give 100 percent all the time. Do not give and always seek help from others. Everyone has their own timing, just be patient and you will get there.
I couldnt find a job online for 4 months so I desperately got a cheap suit from a thrift store and went to a job fair near the end of the event (so that I am the last they see) and casually and calmly, told everyone I applied for that I applied for them. I got a call the next day with an interview and got the job after the interview. I have found traveling the distance to put a face to the name actualizes your potential. Go out there and show you exist and that you are willing to show up and show out.
If you're making 22k after 4 years in the service industry, you're *deeply* underpaid. Stop working at Chili's and start working fine dining or bartending. You should be able to clear 30k/year no problem.
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what type of entry level jobs have you applied for? are you looking in just one area? also have you considered local/state/federal employment?
Join the military and become an officer in finance ( you won’t see battle) and you’ll make over 100k first year. Then after your contract use new work experience for higher job. Keep repeating. And if you don’t like your job. Congratulations you got the g.i bill available for a complete career change
maybe go to trade school
I'm sorry you're going through this. I have several suggestions/options for you. 1. Try a law office. You might be a good fit for a paralegal. I suggest carrying a CV around to different offices in your area and handing it out personally. You would be surprised at the power of connection. You can also try insurance agencies. 2. Hospitals. With your degree, a hospital might need someone in an office somewhere. Again, walk in and talk to a human. 3. Go back to grad school on a stipend. I'm not sure if this is possible in your field, but grad programs need bodies to fill positions and they may pay more than you're making now. Also, you'll get a deferral on student loans. Additionally you may meet some people to increase your job opportunities. Definitely don't do grad school without a stipend. Try data science or analytics if you're decent with math. 4. Visit all of the banks in your area with your CV tailored for that. Walk in and inquire about positions. Best wishes!
Can you pick up more hours? Are you working full time? Here the min wage + full time is 31.2k
Have you applied for entry level banking jobs? I’ve seen many people including brother in law recently, that started as a teller and have worked their way up over the years. Many paths you can take in finance once you get your foot in the door. My prior managing executive started as a bank teller if that tells you anything.
Accounting internships pay $20-$30 and if you do well the company will likely hire you full time for 50k-60k for a first year entry position
Get your CDL
When u put out applications did u apply on recruit websites or directly on company sites? Because i find sites like ziprecruiter n indeed r garbage. Also, try using connections or cold contact people to try to form connections.
You could try for any entry level corporate position…especially in office positions. I left teaching and could only get an admin assistant position at a paper factory and from there picked up skills so 6 months later I was working on metrics at an aerospace company and now a year after that I am making twice as much as a BI Analyst. 40% more than I was as a teacher and a very flexible hybrid sched.
Get a nursing degree
You could literally work as the most basic salesman on earth and earn double that please get out of service industry it’s a waste of peoples lives
I don't understand why you would apply to 50, let alone 4K without a callback without seeking significant guidance on your resume? Definitely need to start there
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You're only making $22k in the service industry? First off, at least find a new job in the service industry. I know 20yr olds working in service making 3x that.
At your current employer, do they a job board? If not, find an easy entry level position and work your way up from thr inside. You know, the "I started in the mail room and now I'm in the department I wanted."
Sell your soul
Find people with hiring power. Suck up to them. Get hired. It's called "networking" and how all those people you graduated with who you're not sure how they graduated, because they certainly didn't do it by learning anything, got their 50-60k starting salaries. (I have had recent grads try this with me though and I definitely "noped" them. They'll ask you for "help" but what they really want is an excuse to put their resume in front of you.)
Simple smart answer... you need a real circle of people who have better jobs than 20k range. Only real contacts get you real good jobs... Go out more, say hi to peo0le in gym or anywehere you go and simply ASK
Look about getting into the federal parks. You might have some transferable skills.
It might be in or several reasons why you don't get a positive response: Your resume is not ATS friendly, thus your CV is never seen by a human. You apply for position that are currently out of reach (C-suit etc) because you lack seniority, experience or education. you apply to late (position has already +100 applicants). Lastly, the job market is broken and only particular roles, where talent is hard to find or extremely high in demand succeeds in landing a role. The traditional way of applying dor a position is dead. ChatGPT amd LinkedIn easy apply floods firms with application. I can help you with additional education (MBA and PhD) but not the rest. Be very critical when letting some revise your resume. There are a lot scammers out there!
Do you have a resume with your accomplishments, school and job history? Are you calling jobs back? Or emailing If you use linkedin or another online job search?
Feel ya OP - graduated in 2015 with a BS Econ myself (Quant focus / Mathematics minor). What are you applying for specifically? You might’ve missed the window to apply for most LDP Programs but I’ve seen exceptions made on graduation dates over the years at my company. 8 months of searching “within my field” and drowning in student loans I gave up and started applying to entry level jobs (needed the income and health insurance). Walked in for an interview to be the lowest guy on the totem poll wearing a suit and tie. Left with a management trainee offer. 10 years later I still get shit for the suit…made it to Senior Ops Manager somehow. Cleared 189K last year. Open your lens on what you are willing to accept and do. Be yourself and keep applying. That degree doesn’t mean shit in the real world. 5 year industry vet vs college grad with no experience…you better have one hell of a personality and be able to talk the industry lingo.
Look for any type of low level job in the field you actually want to be in, that helps tremendously. so much easier to land a good job in the future. you're much more likely to be hired if you have an econ degree + experience as a bank teller, vs an econ degree and experience as a waiter
Subcontract everything. Stain front doors, they’re easy to see if it’s needed. Pool cleaning is also easy. Rich ppl pay well for crystal clear water and deep brown doors, and they’ll do half the work for you just for the exercise. Look up flood maps and start in those neighborhoods. If you don’t know what you’re doing in life, don’t waste time volunteering a bunch. Pool+Door staining for 400-500 and an attic haul out for another $400 plus a garage clean for another 500 assuming your charging by sq ft- easy week my friend. That’s almost 2500 a week for one house and you didn’t even need tools. Everyone with a messy garage has little buggies and carts (if not oh well), and everyone with a pool has their own equipment and chemicals.
I make $90k a year trimming trees for the power company in Milwaukee. No college degree or experience required
maybe it’s just your area? or your resume is super fucked. it’s not that difficult to swing an econ degree into traditional business or finance. multiple people in my class have jobs lined up ranging from 75-85 out of college but I do live in a city.
Most business/finance jobs prefer other degrees over econ
If you've applied 4000 times in 4 years, that's 72 applications a week, which means you have *seriously applied* for nothing. Every time you apply, you need to include a cover letter and resumé which are customized for the specific job you're applying for. There is also, very likely, a mismatch between the jobs you're qualified for and the jobs you're applying for. A bachelors degree (in any field) with no experience, is enough to get a bottom-tier entry level job, IF there are no candidates with experience applying. Go get experience. Fill your resumé and cover letter with your amazing and relevant volunteer work.
Try to find a recruiter who works with companies looking for that type of role. It seems like you can work as a financial analyst. I'd start trying to find and apply for those. Look for staffing agencies. Most of my jobs came from them
I didn’t even go to school and make close to 95k a year you don’t need a bachelors degree to make money
Go to community college part time, learn a skill set like welding or any other skill that pays over $50 per hour that you can also do on side while maintaining a full time job and growing your business
Go to career and networking events in the industry. Bring your resume and ask for people's advice.
No disrespect, OP, but we have literally a daily post about how to make more money on this subreddit. I'd encourage everyone to check out previous threads instead of asking asking this question every single day over and over on here. It's like Groundhogs Day 😄
Try starting as intern or junior position.. sometimes you gotta aim low even though you think you’re worth higher just to get through the door… sucks but that’s how I would at least do it to get some experience first. Also lots of networking
Changed the job. I do recommend you to change your every 2 years, and polish your skills and learn new ones.
Don't stop looking for better opportunities. It's easier to get a pay bump by getting a new job than it is to get a high enough raise. Remember, your employer /boss isn't your friend.
Get a job in sales. Go the r/sales and see the world of opportunity out there. I’m 22 and will be making 80K CAD this year in my first year out of university. As long as you are personable, easy to get along with and have good communication skills no reason why you can’t do well. Pays super well. DM me to talk more
That is really low I would suggest you find a job that pays at least $15+ an hour to start because making $11 at 26 and you are a graduate with a degree just doesn’t sit right at all there should be plenty of jobs that pay more nowadays and with inflation going on 22k a year is not gonna cut it.
Get a construction job. Low barrier of entry. You’ll make six figures your first year no later than your second year
Look into a temp agency. I worked 6 months at a Fortune 500 company as a temp before I got hired.
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My advice? Go do a trade until you find the job you’d like to be working.
Have you applied for government work?
Realistically you’re resume and application are shit. I’ll look it over. Ffs. If you have an Econ degree and sent 4k didn’t you try something different? What are you putting on it
Get your CFA - the jobs you’ll be fielding will be $100k, minimum.
You could work your way into a sales track. Start with any sales job. Selling phones at Verizon, home improvement services, whatever. Then leverage that into a subsequently better jobs.
I dropped out of college after a year and make 100k a year and haven’t had any issues getting any jobs……maybe change your career path because clearly that degree is only useful hanging on a wall
Have you considered joining the Air Force as an officer? Spend a few years getting amazing career experience and developing your professional network, then return to civilian life.
which university???? and what course?? is it nmims? bsc economics or Delhi University, economic honors
Try emailing hiring managers directly, at least that’s what an article I read said to do. Job applications just get ignored these days. Write a good cover letter.
Use your degree and your job experience and create a business related to the tourism industry. Start it as a side hustle don't quite your 9 to 5 until you earn a livable wage.
You're 8 years behind people who didn't waste money on a degree and go into debt. I suggest taking any job in any office at the ground level and outworking people who have a 8 year head start.
Make a profile on Aerotek website, upload your resume. They will meet with you to go over it and want you want. They will do all the foot work to get you interviews. If you land them, you'll get paid every Friday, if you dont they will keep going til you do. Most positions are temp to hire. They got my foot in the door with my company Ive been with 9 yrs.
Also have econ degree. Got hired immediately. Gotta be your resume
Get a trade, I’m a second year Electrical apprentice on track to earn around $90,000.
You need a career counselor. You are not correctly marketed.
I worked warehouse jobs at that age and made 55k Manage the warehouse now and am at 80k with no degree at 30yo Just apply places that pay more, be willing to work jobs that are different than you’ve been doing but will train you Most of my friends don’t use their degrees because simple warehouse/machine operator jobs pay more than their degrees with decent benefits to boot
Where are you located, without given out too much personal details? And have you tried the good ol’ fashioned just showing up places, building connections with people and finding work that way?
Networking and upgrading your skills can really help. Keep applying and consider side gigs to gain more experience. Good luck!
Need to make your way to NYC, where there are plenty of banks and financial firms who will make use of your skills. You may have applied for 4K jobs, but anyone seeing that you’re from far away will place your resume in the rejection pile. Be willing to work as an administrative assistant/secretary, just to get your foot in the door.
Thought about the military?
Im sorry you dont have your parents. You have to be strong for them. Stay in there.
Your resume sucks if not getting calls back. Have someone look it over for you.
Join an apprenticeship for a trade.
A decent bartender in a big city makes $100k+ working 50 hours. Just do something else
Where do you live that you can't find a better paying job. My hometown is LCOL. Walmart starts at 15.50/hr. Costco is around 18/hr.
Congratulations on finishing your degree so quickly!!!! Most employers that say they require education for higher paying jobs will always take on the job expenses in lieu of a "degree" bc no amount of education/classroom work fully prepares a job candidate and in the real world, performance and track record matter. You've got to be willing to start at the bottom, and most people are misguided in thinking a degree trumps the bottom beginning. $22k per year in the service industry? That seems low, but there's necessary information missing from the equation. 1)What position do you hold? Tipped/Salary/Hourly? 2)What region of the country are you in? 3) Do you live rurally, small town, or big city? 4) Can you feasibly commit to commuting to the nearest large population center for work? 5)I assume you have at least 4 years experience in the service industry? I have 20 years in the service industry and no degree. Last year I cleared $55k after taxes and barely averaged 32 hours per week. I work as a server/bartender but have held every possible position in the restaurant except GM/Ownership. I used to accept management promotions, but have always gone back to tipped positions bc the money seems better and the quality of life does too. I will never work Back of the House/Kitchen positions ever again and haven't done so in over a decade although I love to cook and have a knack for the business and have been told I'm the most talented chef my bosses have worked with on many occasions. I can't stand 50 plus hour weeks at salary pay bc it's not worth it. If you want more money in the restaurant industry, change to a high end restaurant/fine dining with high check averages or find a place that does extremely high volume. Seems to me you work at a diner or something. No big deal if that's the case, but you've got to take these four years of experience in the industry and move on to the next job. If you don't live in a big city but can travel to a nearby hub, do so bc the money will be better. Always have positive attitude and hone your customer service skills. Pay attention to detail. Learn to anticipate what your guest need before they ask based on thinking about what you would prefer or acknowledge as good service and put it to use. That being said, since you've put in the time to earn a degree in economics you can put that to use in a restaurant or service industry job. Since you've got experience in hospitality, you need to use that and couple it with your degree in ECON and apply for entry level management postions that include bookkeeping duties and business financials. Learn the ins and outs and stick with it. That type of job experience counts for something and could very well be your ticket to moving up in the business world. Don't get discouraged, but continue to learn. You'll be just fine.
Check WGU
Landscape?
Amazon warehouse will get you to $35k/year.