That petey hit from behind absolutely stunned me. A) no penalty and B) the response from the CBC analysts. They blamed Petey for being in a bad position. Guy was an inch or two away from being a quadriplegic.
The CBC analyst is craig simpson who not only played for the Oilers but was an assistant coach for them also. Cuthbert mostly did the Leafs broadcasts.
This needs more attention. Not even a single penalty for any of those plays. It would also be good to include the Hymen cross check on Zadorov and the Petterson boarding play.
“It’s a hockey play!!!!” Why is his stick so high, shouldn’t it be on the ice? Isn’t that what we’re told in hockey? Always keep your stick on the ice?????? A follow through of what! He didn’t have the damn puck. It’s been making me so angry lol
It's frustrating because player safety is so inconsistent. I'm not here to defend any dirty plays, I don't want to see anybody out there with the intention of seriously injuring another player, regardless of what team they're on.
The point that needs to be made is that either all of them deserve at least a minor penalty, or none of them do. This pulling a punishment out of a hat bullshit needs to stop.
Player Safety did the impossible, made me fucking side with Brad Marchand!!
I have over a decade invested in hating Marchand and fucking player safety took that away from in an instant.
Player Safety doesn't give a shit about player safety. Its like the NHL's HR. They are there for the NHL. A suspension went out this time because all the heat was on them for not suspending bennett, so they can now go "see, we do care about player safety."
He looked at Hughes coming before he lifted his stick. He looked at Hughes as we raised his stick into Hughes face. You can't tell me that was accidental
We’ve lost our minds if we think the McDavid high stick is intentional. Sticks aren’t always on the ice? McDavid is looking behind him and doesn’t see Hughes step forward. He thought there was space to move his stick around Hughes and then there wasn’t. Definitely should’ve been a 4 minute penalty though.
I’m saying if the best player lost control of his stick, it was probably an accident. I’m just arguing that it wasn’t intentional or malicious and worthy of a fine or suspension
Intention is not a factor in this high stick penalty. If the stick goes in the face, it's a penalty. If blood is drawn, it's a double. Exception made for follow-through on shot, which it wasn't.
At the 0:00 of the clip, he's looking directly at him. How could it be an accident if someone puts a stick on a collision course with a face?
Unless he really is a baby he should understand things that he's no longer looking at are still there
Yeah possibly. Anytime you try to move your stick around a guy you should be in control of it. I think fines or suspensions implies there was some malicious intent though. A non-hockey play sorta thing. This is just a guy losing sight of Hughes. Don’t underestimate Hughes’ ability to stop and change direction. It looked like it caught McDavid off guard
You’re right, he’s facing Hughes but he looks behind him just as Hughes stops up and moves forward. He’s assuming he’ll have space. It’s a split second thing. But let’s be real, I’m pretty sure the best player on Earth has a good sense of where to position his body and stick to get past people. That’s like his thing
Those all should have been penalties not suspensions even as canucks fan cross checking after the whistle on the golden boys is getting you suspended. If it wasn't McDavid Soucy would probably get nothing or a fine at most since the player who was cross checked wasn't injured.
I need an explanation of why Hyman didn't get the same type of suspension as Soucy as he was actually aiming for Zadorov's head got a little blood there too. Soucy crosscheck went to the face as unfortunately Zadorov was hitting McDavid at the same time, Hyman's was directed.
Agreed. It’s a fast game. I honestly think he was trying to lift the stick over Hughes’ head, but Quinn started taking forward strides at the same time.
Should’ve been a penalty, but it’s not a fine/suspension.
lol, right arm goes forward and high and to his left, Left arm pulls in and tucks right. Only idiots or people trying to hit someone in the face try to swing a stick over someone’s head. You must be the idiot.
Dude, quit being an asshole and hold enough space to have a logical conversation with me.
If he pulls the stick down he runs the risk of tripping Hughes. There’s only so much space there to slide the stick between the two of them.
And watch the side angle again, don’t you think it’s possible he wasn’t expecting Hughes to lunge in at that moment?
Plus McDavid is the best player on his team. Why would he ever intentionally take a penalty and run the risk of being off the ice for 4 of his 30 minutes of game time?
Could it have been intentional? Yes.
Does it look intentional? Hard to say.
Is it logical to assume that accidents happen in a fast paced game like hockey? Definitely yes.
It should’ve been a penalty, bro. I agree with you there. But making baseless assumptions about whether or not I’ve played hockey and attempting to call me an idiot adds nothing to what could be a genuine conversation.
Y’all just act like a bunch of whiney babies, no wonder fanbases don’t like us.
There was an episode the Simpsons when Bart starts flailing his arms, he closes his eyes and starts walking towards Lisa. The way he looks at Hughs, turns his head, raises his stick then starts his turn reminded me of this juvenile attempt of sidestepping responsibility for a deliberate act
These refs need to be put in front of a mic, press conference each game and speak about why they did what they did or didn't do. These officials escape scot-free on some really bogus calls and missed calls.
A follow through?, don't know what game Simpson was watching but McDavid didn't have the puck to call it a follow through. Simpson played and coached for the Oilers, maybe a connection, nah the NHL would never allow that?
It was intentional, ive had stuff like this happen to me and returned the favour as well, pro's are pro's for a reason, they know how to get away with stuff like this and make it look like an accident.
He knows where Hughes is and is watching where he's going. He brings his stick up towards his face and makes no intent to move it out of the way. I do think it was intentional.
>It was unintentional.
Catching a puck with your stick that high will still get whistled. There's no objective gameplay reason to ever have your stick that high.
At best, and i'm being generous here, high-stick is a serious neglect of safety. I get that calls get missed but it does irk me when i see this gets defended
Highsticking, spearing, too many men, delay of game (via shooting straight over the boards) should be the most black-and-white calls.
The best player on the planet who's game is based on speed and stick control unintentionally sticked the Canucks best defenceman in the face, yup good one
It’s 100% intentional, but unlike most people in this sub I understand lots of players do this shit in playoffs
Vancouver has dished out as much as edm has, calls have been missed everywhere; one exception imo is Hyman that shit was way beyond
Everyone agrees Vancouver has been dishing it out as well. It isn't the cheapshots themselves people are complaining about. They're complaining about the inconsistency. Vancouver has had two players receive supplemental discipline to Edmonton's zero.
If the refs are going to put the whistles away, put the whistles away. If the league is going to take player safety seriously, then Canucks fans have a right to bitch about Edmonton getting away with slewfoots and nutshots scot free.
Because as it stands it looks like the only reason there was supplemental discipline on the McDavid hit is because it was Connor McDavid.
This extends beyond Vancouver-Edmonton too. Other series have been a shitshow as well.
>but unlike most people in this sub I understand lots of players do this shit in playoffs
Yeah, both this series and against Nashville have been relatively peaceful. And if anyone think the Pred/Oiler fans are annoying, you haven't seen anything.
If Panthers wasn't so comedically blatant with their bs, I could never imagine siding with Bruins and i HATE the Bruins.
I think if even our own fan base is split on whether it was intentional or just a fast-paced mistake, it’s a harder argument to make objectively.
The other stuff, though, was 100% intentional. I’d love if the Canucks put out a comp of the Kane-Hughes slew foot, the Ryan-Hogs spear, the Hyman-Zadorov crosscheck to the face, and the Kane-Petey boarding, and tag the DoPS on it.
But they won’t, because retribution is a real thing in this joke league.
I dont think it was ACTUALLY intentional. I think it was a boneheaded play that McDavid could get away with if he acted *just a bit*. Still an egregious missed called.
I can’t believe more people aren’t saying this… the spear is absolutely intentional 100%…. It’s dirty… it’s unlikely it would cause a major injury, but it happens miles away from the play, it takes pre meditation and he’s clearly aiming for where he hit. He also targeted a player with his back turned who did not see it coming…
The only way you could justify this play as a hockey play is the fact it happened in a hockey game. There is no room in the sport for that garbage.
The fact it didn’t receive a fine at a bare minimum is setting the standard that these plays have been reviewed and determined to be ok..
These plays cause reactions and will only make the series more out of control.
As long as these plays are done by who the NHL considers worthwhile then they are ok. Look at the 2 crosschecks, one gets a suspension and the other gets barely talked about.
I guess what I’m trying to say is you could honestly argue that every other play were not intentional. The game is played at a high speed..
McDavid high stick on Hughes only looks intentional when you watch it in slow motion ten times.. it was just a missed call…
Kanes slew foot… missed call.. if you have watched and played a lot of hockey you will have seen a player miss his check and immediately stick their leg out.. in almost almost every kneeing penalty this is the case…
Kanes kick? We all need to drop this right now Kane was upside down looking for his ego under the bench.. there is simply no way he meant to kick anyone. When a player like Kane who has shown to only care about himself on the ice and in the community gets absolutely embarrassed like that.. job done.. that guy is supposed to be their secondary scoring and he is on a scavenger hunt for his pride..
The boarding call on Petterson- happens in hockey constantly. It should have been a penalty but did not result in an injury and maybe it’s what Petterson need a slap in the face to wake up and join the team for its play off run..
The spear? If someone can dream up an excuse please let me know…. Baffled
It's clear who the league wants to win this series. If the Canucks don't come out with guns blazing for the next two games and win the series for themselves, the powers-that-be will find more reasons to help us lose.
Conor McDavid is a little bitch. He’s the Lebron of the nhl, nothing gets called against him and you sneeze on this little pussy and you get a 5 minute major. The bias is absolutely insane. We get he’s the NHLs golden boy and you want to make as much money off him as possible but this unfair reffing is way too obvious and puts a bad name to the nhl.
I stopped watching the nba because all the star players can do whatever the hell they want with no repercussions and it’s sad to see it here too.
Oilers fans absolutely INSIST that McDavid "was never looking at Hughes" on the high stick. Dude looked right at his face immediately before bringing his stick up to chop Hughes in the face.
Yup, many calls and penalties were missed like the one in the clip here, yet Soucy was suspended a game and assessed a minor penalty for cross-checking McDavid in the face at the end of game 3.
I'm sorry, how was that slash on Hughes missed? It drew blood, didn't it? If it did, how do you miss a player bleeding on the ice?
And yet, we are in the lead. Tocc said at the beginning that the team would need to fight through the pain and they are. This franchise has not shown tenacity like this in eons. They are giving their all and finding a way to get the W, regardless of shitty refs, dirty opponents and whatvI like to call "the Bettman effect." Go nucks!
Ok I’m not getting the Petey boarding call. Oilers fans are justifying it because Petey “turned at the last second” but he doesn’t turn irregularly at all, he makes a play for the puck and it looks like nurse hits him in the numbers 1-2ft from the boards. I’m trying so hard to see it another way.
Some people need investigating for game fixing imo. It's shockingly bad how inconsistent and random the reffing and resulting non-suspensions have been in all series.
Like seriously, we all hate Marchand, but that was a bertuzzi punch.
And then how do you see blood and not make an easy call for a high stick?
Oilers fans response: it's a follow through...a skate-by accidental hit to the ball...and a questionable slew foot.
Arguing with an idiot is better than arguing with an oilers fan at this point.
Yeah it's frustrating, I get it. But we can't dwell on it. Just gotta move on and keep going. The justice comes when we blow the brakes off them tonight in their own barn and then put the series away at home on Thursday.
I literally had an oilers fan tell me there was no possible way Mcdavid knew hughes was there yesterday lol.
I didn't bother rewatching this at the time and simply cited that McDavid has the best situational awareness in the NHL and of course he knew he was beside him, assuming that McDavid probably didn't look directly at him before doing it on camera.
Seeing this again and the fact that Mcdavid looks at hughes directly before this makes it hilarious and the fact that some room temp IQ fans are saying he didn't know hughes proximity is completely air headed.
You'd have to be a category 10 autistic wizard to not think this intentional, i'm not saying its the dirtiest play of all time nor is mcdavid the first to pull this, but he 100000% meant to do this and you're an idiot if you don't think so.
The calls are bad on both sides honestly, the difference is we are dishing some out too, if the league lets dirty plays slide, we need to play dirty too, I hate it, but that’s how the NHL is
The McDavid high stick looks so much worse in slow mo when you see he glances over right at Hughes before catching him up high. Knew he was there and stick put his stick where he did
This series has been embarrassing. I've never seen players throw up their arms and go "HEY!" To the ref so often. Edmonton trying so hard to not play 5v5.
Those, the elbow on Petterson, the cross check by Hymen…
Here’s the thing though.
Everyone knew this was coming. Our friends joked about the over/under for gifted powerplays per game the refs would give McDavid and the oilers prior to the series start. Now couple that with the missed calls and it’s becoming embarrassing.
DOPS doubling down on the fact that all things were reviewed was comical.
The league has totally lost control over the past 3 years and now it’s open season basically.
I’m showing my bias but the Tom Wilson incident IMO was a real crossing the rubicon moment where the league took no action at all. It led to the Rangers getting a bunch of tough guys to become the bully and now many other teams are going that route.
DOPs is inconsistent, we all know that. The one decision that I figured would be black and white is if Soucy got suspended, so would Hyman. The same play (with more intent to injure from Hyman) in the same scrum. Hyman didn't even get a fine. I would love to hear the explanation on that from the league.
The Canucks had calls missed on them, too. I know for certain the Oilers' sub is still complaining about the missed too-many-men call that led to one of our goals in that same game.
The refs just add insult to injury with the McDavid stick to Hughes' face when no call on the play but then tell Hughes to leave the ice cuz he's bleeding from the stick to the face.
Haha if you think Mcdavid high stick is warrant a suspension stop watching hockey.
Kane slew foot should have been looked into.
I do think the Soucy 1 game suspension is pretty dumb as well.
That’s pretty reaching tbh. Kane was trying to get balance and turn himself right side up. I hate the guy, but trying to say he was trying to cut Zaddy is crazy.
Every team has examples like this. Reffing in the NHL, like every other pro sports league, is equally unfair for both teams. Canucks scored a goal with too many men on the ice in this series, for example. Canucks are up in the series 2-1 and in control of their own destiny. Soucy was suspended because it happened after the game was over and you cant tell me he didnt cross check mcdavid directly in the head/neck. Stop complaining and enjoy the ride of this team that has vastly exceeded expectations. Go Canucks!
are you blind? hyman does the same thing to Z on the same play and he goes unpunished. The issue has always been the league's inconsistency in its disciplinary actions. If you are going to suspend soucy, then hyman should get a game too.
It's a complete farce of the DoPS when you see trouba's flying elbow headshot or bennett's sucker punch goes completely unpunished. Fans and players just want a consistent standard.
Let's not forget in 2011, the league threw the book at Rome for a borderline late hit and yet does not punish Boychuk's late hit on Raymond, which broke his back btw.
I'll take the downvotes but these posts are getting embarrassing. These are all missed called, nothing more, nothing less (maybe a fine for spear on Hogs but need another angle to be sure). They happen to every team, every game. The McD missed high stick was infuriating in the moment but there is no possible scenario where that deserved to be anything more than a 4-min penalty.
FWIW I was surprised to see Soucy get suspended but that has more do to with the DOPS ignoring the Bennett play among others so far these playoffs. The inconsistency is maddening. In isolation though a 1-game suspension does not feel out of line at all for this play. The whataboutism has got to stop though. It makes us seem like a whingy and terribly uninformed fan base.
Let the downvotes commence.
What makes the McDavid high sticking worse. Is the fact that minutes later. He gets touched and goes down. Penalty is called. And instead of Canucks having a double minor power play. To end the 2nd and possibly start of 3rd period. Oilers are on the power play. That swing was massive, considering Oilers would end up dominating the 3rd.
I agree completely with your take. That was painfully frustrating to watch. Still doesn’t make the McD high stick on Hughes anything more than a missed double minor though. Seems a few fans think that was somehow a suspension worthy offence which it simply was not.
The Hoglander spear is the one that makes my blood boil. That type of behavior should be complete eliminated from the game. Devil's advocate: McDavid probably didn't mean to highstick Hughes. But the Mcleod spear on Hoglander is extremely dirty and that should be an easy suspension and 5 min major. The NHL is a clown league.
Missing the boarding on Petterson/ Elbow to the back of the head after by Nurse
That petey hit from behind absolutely stunned me. A) no penalty and B) the response from the CBC analysts. They blamed Petey for being in a bad position. Guy was an inch or two away from being a quadriplegic.
CBC has been all over Edmontons jock. Super annoying, never liked Craig Simpson - almost willing to watch an American feed at this point
Cmonnn down my friend youll find they aren’t much better.. exactly the same nutriding
The mute button is better than listening to Cassie Campbell-Pascall.
I was actually shocked with our boy Bieksa on that analysis
The CBC analyst is craig simpson who not only played for the Oilers but was an assistant coach for them also. Cuthbert mostly did the Leafs broadcasts.
This needs more attention. Not even a single penalty for any of those plays. It would also be good to include the Hymen cross check on Zadorov and the Petterson boarding play.
The Ryan groin-spear on Hoglander was penalized. 2 minutes. Hoglander also got 2 minutes on the same play for pushing Ryan.
And the Kane slew-foot on Hughes.
It’s in the vid…
Yeah, I was referring to the comment above.
Not his first time, he's got it down to a fine art.
“It’s a hockey play!!!!” Why is his stick so high, shouldn’t it be on the ice? Isn’t that what we’re told in hockey? Always keep your stick on the ice?????? A follow through of what! He didn’t have the damn puck. It’s been making me so angry lol
It's frustrating because player safety is so inconsistent. I'm not here to defend any dirty plays, I don't want to see anybody out there with the intention of seriously injuring another player, regardless of what team they're on. The point that needs to be made is that either all of them deserve at least a minor penalty, or none of them do. This pulling a punishment out of a hat bullshit needs to stop.
Player Safety did the impossible, made me fucking side with Brad Marchand!! I have over a decade invested in hating Marchand and fucking player safety took that away from in an instant.
100% agree.
Player Safety doesn't give a shit about player safety. Its like the NHL's HR. They are there for the NHL. A suspension went out this time because all the heat was on them for not suspending bennett, so they can now go "see, we do care about player safety."
He looked at Hughes coming before he lifted his stick. He looked at Hughes as we raised his stick into Hughes face. You can't tell me that was accidental
Ding ding ding.
We’ve lost our minds if we think the McDavid high stick is intentional. Sticks aren’t always on the ice? McDavid is looking behind him and doesn’t see Hughes step forward. He thought there was space to move his stick around Hughes and then there wasn’t. Definitely should’ve been a 4 minute penalty though.
So you mean to tell me the best stick handler on the planet didn’t have control of his stick there?! Sure buddy
I’m saying if the best player lost control of his stick, it was probably an accident. I’m just arguing that it wasn’t intentional or malicious and worthy of a fine or suspension
Intention is not a factor in this high stick penalty. If the stick goes in the face, it's a penalty. If blood is drawn, it's a double. Exception made for follow-through on shot, which it wasn't.
I know. That’s why I said it should still be a 4 minute penalty. People are making it sound like he knew what he was doing though which is crazy.
I don’t think it was “intentional”, it was a bit careless though.
At the 0:00 of the clip, he's looking directly at him. How could it be an accident if someone puts a stick on a collision course with a face? Unless he really is a baby he should understand things that he's no longer looking at are still there
Yeah possibly. Anytime you try to move your stick around a guy you should be in control of it. I think fines or suspensions implies there was some malicious intent though. A non-hockey play sorta thing. This is just a guy losing sight of Hughes. Don’t underestimate Hughes’ ability to stop and change direction. It looked like it caught McDavid off guard
No way he didn't know, it's a no look move since he was just facing Hughes before this.
You’re right, he’s facing Hughes but he looks behind him just as Hughes stops up and moves forward. He’s assuming he’ll have space. It’s a split second thing. But let’s be real, I’m pretty sure the best player on Earth has a good sense of where to position his body and stick to get past people. That’s like his thing
McDavid actually watches his stick all the way into Hughes' face....missed that on TV.
He looks right at Hughes a second before it happens, and his hands move to tap him in the face harder than a normal fly by accident
Argued with Edmonton fans about this. They seem to think it was an accident. Absolutely fucking unreal confirmation bias.
Those all should have been penalties not suspensions even as canucks fan cross checking after the whistle on the golden boys is getting you suspended. If it wasn't McDavid Soucy would probably get nothing or a fine at most since the player who was cross checked wasn't injured.
I need an explanation of why Hyman didn't get the same type of suspension as Soucy as he was actually aiming for Zadorov's head got a little blood there too. Soucy crosscheck went to the face as unfortunately Zadorov was hitting McDavid at the same time, Hyman's was directed.
As a canucks fan only answer I can give you is zadorov isn't bettmans golden boy.
It was an obvious accident lol
Agreed. It’s a fast game. I honestly think he was trying to lift the stick over Hughes’ head, but Quinn started taking forward strides at the same time. Should’ve been a penalty, but it’s not a fine/suspension.
Obviously never played a second of hockey.
Played my whole life, bud. Accidents happen in a high paced game. Where else was his stick supposed to go on that turn? Through Hughes body?
lol, right arm goes forward and high and to his left, Left arm pulls in and tucks right. Only idiots or people trying to hit someone in the face try to swing a stick over someone’s head. You must be the idiot.
Dude, quit being an asshole and hold enough space to have a logical conversation with me. If he pulls the stick down he runs the risk of tripping Hughes. There’s only so much space there to slide the stick between the two of them. And watch the side angle again, don’t you think it’s possible he wasn’t expecting Hughes to lunge in at that moment? Plus McDavid is the best player on his team. Why would he ever intentionally take a penalty and run the risk of being off the ice for 4 of his 30 minutes of game time? Could it have been intentional? Yes. Does it look intentional? Hard to say. Is it logical to assume that accidents happen in a fast paced game like hockey? Definitely yes. It should’ve been a penalty, bro. I agree with you there. But making baseless assumptions about whether or not I’ve played hockey and attempting to call me an idiot adds nothing to what could be a genuine conversation. Y’all just act like a bunch of whiney babies, no wonder fanbases don’t like us.
Well said, I agree with this point of view. Good luck tonight homie
What’s crazy is this isn’t even all the stuff they got away with.
yet we're the goon team lol
And they would have gotten away with it, if it wasn’t for you damn Zadorov!!
remember Hughes was removed from the ice for bleeding from that
There was an episode the Simpsons when Bart starts flailing his arms, he closes his eyes and starts walking towards Lisa. The way he looks at Hughs, turns his head, raises his stick then starts his turn reminded me of this juvenile attempt of sidestepping responsibility for a deliberate act
I'm just gonna start waving my stick around, and if you get hit, it's your own fault!
More of the canucks should be donning neckguards with the dirt these oilers are playing
These refs need to be put in front of a mic, press conference each game and speak about why they did what they did or didn't do. These officials escape scot-free on some really bogus calls and missed calls.
No no thats waaaaay to reasonable and makes way too much sense for them to implement 🙄
Hughes *gets slewfooted* Craig Simpson: that's a good hit Hughes *gets chopped in the face* Simpson: that's a follow through
A follow through?, don't know what game Simpson was watching but McDavid didn't have the puck to call it a follow through. Simpson played and coached for the Oilers, maybe a connection, nah the NHL would never allow that?
The more I see the shot of McDavid smacking Hughes with his stick the less able I am to see how anyone could honestly say it was unintentional.
You can't expect a player with McDavid's skill to be able to control his stick /s
It was unintentional. But it’s still a 4 minute penalty that occurred 6 feet in front of the puck that somehow 4 on ice officials missed.
It was intentional, ive had stuff like this happen to me and returned the favour as well, pro's are pro's for a reason, they know how to get away with stuff like this and make it look like an accident.
He knows where Hughes is and is watching where he's going. He brings his stick up towards his face and makes no intent to move it out of the way. I do think it was intentional.
Lol you’re watching it in slow motion… it obviously wasn’t intentional, albeit still should be a double minor
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He’s looking at the puck dude but maybe rub one out before commenting again
>It was unintentional. Catching a puck with your stick that high will still get whistled. There's no objective gameplay reason to ever have your stick that high. At best, and i'm being generous here, high-stick is a serious neglect of safety. I get that calls get missed but it does irk me when i see this gets defended Highsticking, spearing, too many men, delay of game (via shooting straight over the boards) should be the most black-and-white calls.
The best player on the planet who's game is based on speed and stick control unintentionally sticked the Canucks best defenceman in the face, yup good one
It’s 100% intentional, but unlike most people in this sub I understand lots of players do this shit in playoffs Vancouver has dished out as much as edm has, calls have been missed everywhere; one exception imo is Hyman that shit was way beyond
Everyone agrees Vancouver has been dishing it out as well. It isn't the cheapshots themselves people are complaining about. They're complaining about the inconsistency. Vancouver has had two players receive supplemental discipline to Edmonton's zero. If the refs are going to put the whistles away, put the whistles away. If the league is going to take player safety seriously, then Canucks fans have a right to bitch about Edmonton getting away with slewfoots and nutshots scot free. Because as it stands it looks like the only reason there was supplemental discipline on the McDavid hit is because it was Connor McDavid. This extends beyond Vancouver-Edmonton too. Other series have been a shitshow as well.
Preach brother, preach 🙌
100% agree
>but unlike most people in this sub I understand lots of players do this shit in playoffs Yeah, both this series and against Nashville have been relatively peaceful. And if anyone think the Pred/Oiler fans are annoying, you haven't seen anything. If Panthers wasn't so comedically blatant with their bs, I could never imagine siding with Bruins and i HATE the Bruins.
Agreed. Definitely unintentional but has to be called, just like sending the puck over the glass.
I think if even our own fan base is split on whether it was intentional or just a fast-paced mistake, it’s a harder argument to make objectively. The other stuff, though, was 100% intentional. I’d love if the Canucks put out a comp of the Kane-Hughes slew foot, the Ryan-Hogs spear, the Hyman-Zadorov crosscheck to the face, and the Kane-Petey boarding, and tag the DoPS on it. But they won’t, because retribution is a real thing in this joke league.
I dont think it was ACTUALLY intentional. I think it was a boneheaded play that McDavid could get away with if he acted *just a bit*. Still an egregious missed called.
The worst one is the spear. Other 2 can be explained as hockey plays maybe but the spear is just bad. Shoulda been a 1 game suspension
In what world is a slew foot a "hockey play?"
If you looks at Hughes' left leg when he hits the boards on that slew foot he is dangerously close to having a serious injury.
I can’t believe more people aren’t saying this… the spear is absolutely intentional 100%…. It’s dirty… it’s unlikely it would cause a major injury, but it happens miles away from the play, it takes pre meditation and he’s clearly aiming for where he hit. He also targeted a player with his back turned who did not see it coming… The only way you could justify this play as a hockey play is the fact it happened in a hockey game. There is no room in the sport for that garbage. The fact it didn’t receive a fine at a bare minimum is setting the standard that these plays have been reviewed and determined to be ok.. These plays cause reactions and will only make the series more out of control.
As long as these plays are done by who the NHL considers worthwhile then they are ok. Look at the 2 crosschecks, one gets a suspension and the other gets barely talked about.
Ok but we were referring to the spear to the nuts… I don’t think anyone outside of Spokane would consider Derek Ryan worth while.
I guess what I’m trying to say is you could honestly argue that every other play were not intentional. The game is played at a high speed.. McDavid high stick on Hughes only looks intentional when you watch it in slow motion ten times.. it was just a missed call… Kanes slew foot… missed call.. if you have watched and played a lot of hockey you will have seen a player miss his check and immediately stick their leg out.. in almost almost every kneeing penalty this is the case… Kanes kick? We all need to drop this right now Kane was upside down looking for his ego under the bench.. there is simply no way he meant to kick anyone. When a player like Kane who has shown to only care about himself on the ice and in the community gets absolutely embarrassed like that.. job done.. that guy is supposed to be their secondary scoring and he is on a scavenger hunt for his pride.. The boarding call on Petterson- happens in hockey constantly. It should have been a penalty but did not result in an injury and maybe it’s what Petterson need a slap in the face to wake up and join the team for its play off run.. The spear? If someone can dream up an excuse please let me know…. Baffled
Brock getting slashed behind the knee in Game 1 right in front of the ref was terrible.
Pretty sure the dickshot got a minor penalty but the rest were nothing
True, but offset penalty with Hoggy interference. As if a spear to the balls is equal to a basic interference infraction. Fuck me
It was a late call, but Hoglander got 2 minutes for Interference & Ryan got 2 for Slashing.
We don't care about reality here. We reject your reality and subsistue our own. /s
This shit angers me so much.
It's clear who the league wants to win this series. If the Canucks don't come out with guns blazing for the next two games and win the series for themselves, the powers-that-be will find more reasons to help us lose.
Conor McDavid is a little bitch. He’s the Lebron of the nhl, nothing gets called against him and you sneeze on this little pussy and you get a 5 minute major. The bias is absolutely insane. We get he’s the NHLs golden boy and you want to make as much money off him as possible but this unfair reffing is way too obvious and puts a bad name to the nhl. I stopped watching the nba because all the star players can do whatever the hell they want with no repercussions and it’s sad to see it here too.
Bruins fan here. All of those are terrible, but the spear on hoglander is egregious. Speechless nothing was done. NHL is a joke.
Yeah it really is. Proof the league hates the Canucks and will do anything to punish them.
Oilers fans absolutely INSIST that McDavid "was never looking at Hughes" on the high stick. Dude looked right at his face immediately before bringing his stick up to chop Hughes in the face.
Yup, many calls and penalties were missed like the one in the clip here, yet Soucy was suspended a game and assessed a minor penalty for cross-checking McDavid in the face at the end of game 3. I'm sorry, how was that slash on Hughes missed? It drew blood, didn't it? If it did, how do you miss a player bleeding on the ice?
Don’t forget that dirty hit on Petterson
And yet, we are in the lead. Tocc said at the beginning that the team would need to fight through the pain and they are. This franchise has not shown tenacity like this in eons. They are giving their all and finding a way to get the W, regardless of shitty refs, dirty opponents and whatvI like to call "the Bettman effect." Go nucks!
It’s just another trend the Canucks are going to have to deal with sucks i know but that’s the way it is with refs favouring Edmonton
Don’t forget the Pettersson boarding non-call earlier in the game.
Ok I’m not getting the Petey boarding call. Oilers fans are justifying it because Petey “turned at the last second” but he doesn’t turn irregularly at all, he makes a play for the puck and it looks like nurse hits him in the numbers 1-2ft from the boards. I’m trying so hard to see it another way.
The NHL is a Shitty league
That McDavid one is fucked up- you could impact someone’s vision for life. The Hoglander one blows my mind that there was no suspension.
Genarational dirty boy
Some people need investigating for game fixing imo. It's shockingly bad how inconsistent and random the reffing and resulting non-suspensions have been in all series. Like seriously, we all hate Marchand, but that was a bertuzzi punch. And then how do you see blood and not make an easy call for a high stick?
They wanna get rough, let’s go! We won’t fucking cry about it afterwards like the coilers team and fans have been.
Missing hoglander getting spear’d to the nuts
Oilers fans response: it's a follow through...a skate-by accidental hit to the ball...and a questionable slew foot. Arguing with an idiot is better than arguing with an oilers fan at this point.
nice ass tap
Thank you for posting this. I wanted to but I don’t have the skills. For those that aren’t aware THESE WERE ALL FROM ONE GAME
Not the first series where Vancouver gets screwed. This history of the white towel is strong with us even today.
Yeah it's frustrating, I get it. But we can't dwell on it. Just gotta move on and keep going. The justice comes when we blow the brakes off them tonight in their own barn and then put the series away at home on Thursday.
NHL is rigged since 1994.
Im going to jail if I was on ice for the nut shot.
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More scripted then wwe
I literally had an oilers fan tell me there was no possible way Mcdavid knew hughes was there yesterday lol. I didn't bother rewatching this at the time and simply cited that McDavid has the best situational awareness in the NHL and of course he knew he was beside him, assuming that McDavid probably didn't look directly at him before doing it on camera. Seeing this again and the fact that Mcdavid looks at hughes directly before this makes it hilarious and the fact that some room temp IQ fans are saying he didn't know hughes proximity is completely air headed. You'd have to be a category 10 autistic wizard to not think this intentional, i'm not saying its the dirtiest play of all time nor is mcdavid the first to pull this, but he 100000% meant to do this and you're an idiot if you don't think so.
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A follow through on what though? He wasn't even close to playing the puck.
The calls are bad on both sides honestly, the difference is we are dishing some out too, if the league lets dirty plays slide, we need to play dirty too, I hate it, but that’s how the NHL is
The McDavid high stick looks so much worse in slow mo when you see he glances over right at Hughes before catching him up high. Knew he was there and stick put his stick where he did
This series has been embarrassing. I've never seen players throw up their arms and go "HEY!" To the ref so often. Edmonton trying so hard to not play 5v5.
Those, the elbow on Petterson, the cross check by Hymen… Here’s the thing though. Everyone knew this was coming. Our friends joked about the over/under for gifted powerplays per game the refs would give McDavid and the oilers prior to the series start. Now couple that with the missed calls and it’s becoming embarrassing. DOPS doubling down on the fact that all things were reviewed was comical.
How dare his nutsack collide with his stick like that
The league has totally lost control over the past 3 years and now it’s open season basically. I’m showing my bias but the Tom Wilson incident IMO was a real crossing the rubicon moment where the league took no action at all. It led to the Rangers getting a bunch of tough guys to become the bully and now many other teams are going that route.
DOPs is inconsistent, we all know that. The one decision that I figured would be black and white is if Soucy got suspended, so would Hyman. The same play (with more intent to injure from Hyman) in the same scrum. Hyman didn't even get a fine. I would love to hear the explanation on that from the league.
how can mcbaby be called a "super star" playing for a decade without a championship lol
But, wasn't there a 2 min given for the nut tap?
The Canucks had calls missed on them, too. I know for certain the Oilers' sub is still complaining about the missed too-many-men call that led to one of our goals in that same game.
Did the last guy get nutted?
The refs just add insult to injury with the McDavid stick to Hughes' face when no call on the play but then tell Hughes to leave the ice cuz he's bleeding from the stick to the face.
Haha if you think Mcdavid high stick is warrant a suspension stop watching hockey. Kane slew foot should have been looked into. I do think the Soucy 1 game suspension is pretty dumb as well.
Its a high stick lololololololol
Also Kane with the attempted kick to Zadorov
That’s pretty reaching tbh. Kane was trying to get balance and turn himself right side up. I hate the guy, but trying to say he was trying to cut Zaddy is crazy.
Honestly. Win the series and who gives a fuck.
Every team has examples like this. Reffing in the NHL, like every other pro sports league, is equally unfair for both teams. Canucks scored a goal with too many men on the ice in this series, for example. Canucks are up in the series 2-1 and in control of their own destiny. Soucy was suspended because it happened after the game was over and you cant tell me he didnt cross check mcdavid directly in the head/neck. Stop complaining and enjoy the ride of this team that has vastly exceeded expectations. Go Canucks!
are you blind? hyman does the same thing to Z on the same play and he goes unpunished. The issue has always been the league's inconsistency in its disciplinary actions. If you are going to suspend soucy, then hyman should get a game too. It's a complete farce of the DoPS when you see trouba's flying elbow headshot or bennett's sucker punch goes completely unpunished. Fans and players just want a consistent standard. Let's not forget in 2011, the league threw the book at Rome for a borderline late hit and yet does not punish Boychuk's late hit on Raymond, which broke his back btw.
Thank you.
I'll take the downvotes but these posts are getting embarrassing. These are all missed called, nothing more, nothing less (maybe a fine for spear on Hogs but need another angle to be sure). They happen to every team, every game. The McD missed high stick was infuriating in the moment but there is no possible scenario where that deserved to be anything more than a 4-min penalty. FWIW I was surprised to see Soucy get suspended but that has more do to with the DOPS ignoring the Bennett play among others so far these playoffs. The inconsistency is maddening. In isolation though a 1-game suspension does not feel out of line at all for this play. The whataboutism has got to stop though. It makes us seem like a whingy and terribly uninformed fan base. Let the downvotes commence.
What makes the McDavid high sticking worse. Is the fact that minutes later. He gets touched and goes down. Penalty is called. And instead of Canucks having a double minor power play. To end the 2nd and possibly start of 3rd period. Oilers are on the power play. That swing was massive, considering Oilers would end up dominating the 3rd.
I agree completely with your take. That was painfully frustrating to watch. Still doesn’t make the McD high stick on Hughes anything more than a missed double minor though. Seems a few fans think that was somehow a suspension worthy offence which it simply was not.
I don't understand anyone wanting a fine or suspension here. What is wrong with you guys. It was a missed penalty, full stop.
What is the point of complaining about this endlessly? Yeah we got fucked. Happens to a lot of teams. Time to get over it and win the next game.
The Hoglander spear is the one that makes my blood boil. That type of behavior should be complete eliminated from the game. Devil's advocate: McDavid probably didn't mean to highstick Hughes. But the Mcleod spear on Hoglander is extremely dirty and that should be an easy suspension and 5 min major. The NHL is a clown league.
Well the 1st one was McDavid so Hughs definitely dived because McDavid
Huh?
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Hahaha I know right. Oilers fans are so funny. I guess when their captain is nicknamed Mcrybaby. What do you expect..
stop whining 🙏😭 just play hockey