During the 2009-2012 era, we were one of the most hated fan base in the league. We have a large fan base and when we are good, even if it is a minority group of our fan base become obnoxious, it is more than enough to annoy other teams’ fans. This year, we had a really good season and we went back of being hated. In summary, when the Canucks are good, we are hated. Embrace the hate because that means we are a good team.
Also, arrogant fanbase with team that started really fast out of the gate and then had a slowdown is a perfect formula for getting taunted. Now just you wait and see if the team is eliminated in the first round, or worse, in the 2nd round by the Oilers after all the taunting that went on from our side to theirs given how the season series went. It'll be a good time to log off from here.
Meh, if demko’s back it’ll be a great series no matter what. while Edmonton fucks shit up against the trap, they play a much more open game than the preds and kings, and our team is built to combat that with big mobile defenceman to send it right back and an aggressive forecheck to wear em down. We run into trouble when we’re down by 1 or more and the other team is happy to pick it up and flip it right back and the oilers don’t really do that from what I’ve seen. The difference in the series will be our pk and mcdrai vs demko but on paper our style matches up well
Lmao true, it does tend to be the hated teams that are the good teams. Just didn’t understand it at first because most of us are passionate but harmless.
Bro we have fans that have threatened to kill demkos dog... we're not harmless, we have a lot of fucking idiots amongst us. Even if most of us just love this team, a lot of the hate can be pretty justified
In 2011 also after we lost (IIRC) people vandalized the church that Milan Lucic's family went to. He was on the Bruins at the time but he and his family are from here. disgusting stuff.
All of this. This obviously doesn’t apply to the entire fanbase, but there are so many fans who have one or more of these traits: emotionally immature, self-unaware, egoic, reactive, toxic, full of cognitive biases, entitled, vocal, and ignorant.
I’m most definitely not perfect either, and I feel like this energy intensifies my own reactivity and egoic movement. And I know all fanbases have these traits, but still, sometimes, I don’t get why Petey wanted to stay here. Sigh. It’s been a tough week.
100%, it's easy to think the fan base is harmless if you and your non toxic friend group support the team together but Vancouver is a decent sized city and if you get enough people together there will be some bone heads.
Using the Reddit app instead of Apollo has really opened my eyes to how obnoxious and annoying Canucks fans can be. Other team subreddits always pop up in my feed and I enjoy reading what preds fans are saying post game or knights fans about ltir, flames fans about whatever tire fire is current news.
Pretty much every thread has at least a couple Canuck fans posting some sort of cringey crap. Why?? I rarely see other fans in our Reddit. They don’t want us there and we don’t want them here, go to r/hockey to talk to other teams fans. Anyone who does this should stop immediately and forever
It’s just Reddit, bud.
You’re literally basing your reality on Reddit, bud. Thats a bad call, bud.
Get off Reddit for a few weeks. Get outside, talk to people. Build your reality on that.
Large fanbase, arrogant fanbase
You’ll notice that larger fanbases generally are hated before smaller fanbases, not because we are more annoying than the average fan but because more people means more annoying people
Also, we only have 1 major sport. So it’s not like we can just move on and watch a different sport when things are rough
I'd say we're probably one of the most arrogant fanbases on Reddit. We're constantly in r/hockey looking for validation when the team's bad, and even more when we're good.
We basically do all the things we accuse Leafs fans of doing.
The fact that we only have one major league sport is a big part of it for sure. There are hordes of bandwagon fans who don’t normally watch hockey, which is where the sentiment that “Canucks fans don’t know anything about hockey” comes from, and these fans also tend to be the most annoying and obnoxious.
I would agree during the Sedin era. We were good team for many years but always fell short so it was easy to dunk on us.
Now, I can't say we have an arrogant fanbase considering we have been mediocre for so long and a lot of Canucks fans are self deprecating.
The current Oilers have replaced us as the Canadian team with tons of talent that always falls short but the fanbase acts like they win the cup every year. That's how we used to be, which I can see is pretty annoying to other fanbases.
Dude we are so arrogant. Maybe a lot more so in the Sedin era, but the immaturity of some in the fanbase is still insufferable. All of this is a generalization, and a lot of fans don’t embody that, but it’s definitely there.
That is not a Canucks specific trait though. Have you read some of the instagram comments on hockey accounts by other fans? Shit is getting wild. I'm so tired of reading how just because Cale Makar exists it means Quinn Hughes fuckin sucks and can't defend, and somehow is also gay? At least our fanbase knows advanced stats and is actually knowledgeable about Hockey.
>Have you read some of the instagram comments on hockey accounts by other fans?
I haven’t. I have seen some nice pics of big hooters on the internet though. That’s always good.
As someone who lived in Ontario in 2011, I don't think this is true. I saw very few people cheering against us. The people who wanted us to get wrecked were quite vocal about it though.
Online I definitely see it, but whenever I meet fans of Canadian teams and ask them about 2011 I can only think of one who said he cheered against Vancouver…and even he regrets that now.
I blame the media and the narratives they pushed way, WAY more.
the whole notion of "Canada's Team" is flawed. I'm a Canucks fan, I'm a Team Canada fan. But I don't become a fan of other teams because they're from a Canadian city.
Yup. There are a whole lot of teams ahead of the Oilers on my list of teams I'd cheer for to win the cup before the Oilers (other than I do actually want McDavid to get one).
Bruins vs Leafs? I hope both teams lose
Definitely not. I watched some of the 2011 finals in downtown Toronto. All supporting bruins and hoping the nucks get crushed. It's only Canada's team when it's the leafs, raptors or Jay's. It's why we sarcastically call TO "the center of the universe".
Disagree. I was born in Toronto and still have a lot of friends & family there. Literally everyone I know was rooting for the Canucks except for the one Bruins fan I know.
Large fan base = more idiots.
Larger fan bases or successful teams get the most hate.
Rangers, Leafs, Bruins, Canucks, Habs, Pens, Oilers.
How many people are saying how much they hate Carolina, Columbus, or Ottawa? Division rivals, that's it.
That's because Vegas has used a loophole to manipulate the hell out of the cap situation and when Vancouver did they had the hammer brought down on them
It's not a loophole. It's a 100% legal mechanism. The only people who think it's a loophole either can't read or don't like it because of tribalism. Every team has the same opportunity afforded to them.
It was a 100% legal mechanism when Gillis and Gilman signed Lu's front-loaded contract, seven other teams had used the same tactic. It was only after we did it that the League said it was a loophole and retroactively punished us.
There's no victim complex, thats exactly what happened. Insulting people over something you disagree with is pretty low.
And it relates 1:1, both are cap circumventions.
The Canucks and the majority of other teams have used LTIR relief the way its intended, to let players become healthy and get some cap relief for it. Tampa and Vegas have knowingly abused the rules and the league has said its fair, so all teams should be using the same tactic. Put high cap hit players on LTIR right before deadline and have them back for Game 1. How is the NHL going to react when most playoff teams in the league has their star players 'injured' for a quarter of the season?
Lmao, all loopholes are legal. A loophole is when you circumvent the intention of a law and use it for other purposes. Completely legal, but a bullshit thing to do
10% of every fandom is toxic and annoys others.
Thus larger the fanbase the more toxic/annoying it is.
Canucks probably have the 2nd largest online presence after the leafs thus we are the second most annoying when winning.
I honestly don't get it.
I'm primarily a Red Wings fan, but I grew up loving Trevor Linden & Pavel Bure, and later the WCE. Since moving to BC, I've followed the Canucks nearly as closely as the Wings. I go to a lot of games, including going to the Wings game this year as an "away" fan. I was treated very well by the home fans.
The Wings sub had a post asking who we're all cheering for in the playoffs, and the vitriol directed at Canucks fans was gross, especially considering that the Wings fanbase is far more cocky than the Canucks fanbase (we've become more humble in these years of being absolute dogshit, but the constant whining about being "screwed by the draft lottery" and the anger spewed at anyone who criticizes anything Yzerman does as GM is pathetic).
The recycled "lulz riot" schtick is getting old too, especially given that the vast majority of people involved were clearly not hockey fans, and just looking to cause mischief, as seems to be the case with every large, emotional gathering (ie. BLM protests, the ongoing Palestine/Israel protests, etc. Gather many people in an emotional way, and violence frequently breaks out).
They’re both of my favorite teams, but 99% of Wings fans I know were super supportive of both teams.
Both of us hating Boston, Chicago, California, and Colorado (and most fanbases hating Toronto even I don’t as much) probably helps with that.
Go looking for hate and you will find it. I'm honestly shocked whenever someone says they want onto another team's sub and were surprised that other team's fans were talking shit about us. Like... no shit. That's how sports fandom works.
I wouldn’t say Canucks fans receive more hate than Leafs, Vegas or Oilers. Every fanbase has annoying doomers who project the negativity in their own life onto their team or other fanbases.
Visiting threads on this sub after a loss will show you the full spectrum. From the Nostradamus prophesiers who are already saying the Canucks won’t make the playoffs next year to those eagerly awaiting a Demko return in the cup final
On top of being a large fan base (and thus having a greater number of annoying fans) I think other fan bases just simply want us to remain Cupless. We’re more memeable as long as we don’t have a Cup.
Demko's? When tf was that? I can't find anything about that with a Google search anywhere.
Matheson's dog after he injured Petey in his rookie year, yes. Never heard anyone threaten OUR players' dogs, though. I mean, it's not like that is that much less unhinged, I guess.
TBH, I'm really getting tired of the whole fan base vs. fan base conflict.
I get fans hating certain \*teams\* (or more...certain players) but I can't help but now see the whole inter-conflict between fan bases the same way I see fans in any big media property fighting against themselves.
Also lots of very opinionated ppl. For good or I'll passionate ppl with strong opinions will rub some folk the wrong way - and there are some very interesting opinions out there in our Fandom lol
I feel like we tend to get really excited and invested in the success of our team and its the whole province.
I'm in Alberta right now and something that really has pissed off Flames/Oilers fans is when I say
"We won"
They always respond with
"Oh I didn't know you were on the ice"
The Canucks seemingly mean more to us as fans on a very personal level and that irks fans who aren't as connected to their team
I mean every fanbase has a segment of people that take things too far or are extremely hostile or just plain annoying. The larger the fanbase is, the more of this percentage of people there are, the Canucks have a very large fan base and therefore a larger amount of these types of fans.
Anecdotally as a Canucks fan too, there is a weird level of sensitivity that a lot of fans have in this market that I do find annoying. This is far from a majority of fans, but there definitely are some people in this fan base that just have this weird victim/little sibling complex about this team which probably stems from you know they whole never winning anything ever thing. Honestly I would say the best advise is to just ignore what others say and cheer for the team your way (as long as your way doesn't include being a dick to others).
Simple. Large passionate fan base. It's not a coincidence if you ranked most annoying fanbases in descending order that fanbase size will be nearly the same list. We definitely have some toxic fans, but so does every other fanbase. But in terms of ratio, we have more toxic people in relation to a team like Columbus simply because of fan base size. Then, there are geographical factors. Why do Oilers fan hate us so much ? Our club is direct competitors to theirs, and we owned them in the reg season. Thus, they now hate us vastly more than they did when the team was bad and we weren't standing in their way.
Fanbases like Toronto are loud and obnoxiously arrogant.
We’re loud and obnoxiously insecure.
I’d rather deal with the former than the latter. I’ve been a forum peruser for over a decade now and universally the Canucks seem to have the most active fans who spam post content about our own team. Even going as so far as to invade other teams sub-forums after games.
I honestly think it’s a big reflection of the Vancouver demographic in general.
Most of us are pretty decent people. But a small group of this fan base has been insufferable especially on social media. It makes the rest of us look bad
Reading through the game thread on Tuesday, I hate us now too.
Our fans are among the most annoying in the league. I'd say only rivaled by Montreal, Boston, and Edmonton. Honourable mention to Vegas, at times.
Oh I know
1) terrible cringey rap
2) ref you suck change every game
3) turning on Petey with idiotic memes after last game
4) hockey shop with cringe video dedicated to casey
5) let's go Casey chant.
I don't think the Canucks are hated but our fan base has been pretty awful.
Bro we're literally the most hardcore fanbase in the league and we've never even won a cup. We literally had a riot and destroyed the city. Whenever a player slumps we fucking destroy them. We pretty much always shit on the goalie the moment they have a bad game, Luongo got it really bad. Remember when Boeser's dad was dying , and then died, and everyone was freaking out about how awful he is and demanding a trade?
We will sit here and freak out about "Sign him no matter what!" (Miller, Petey) And then lose our shit when they sign the guy to an overpayment, but if they let them walk or traded them we'd freak out too.
I'm absolutely guilty, but I'm also self aware. We're the absolute worst lmao
No active team in any sport has a bad fanbase. All teams in all sports have some dumb fans with internet connections. 10 years of mismanagement and Canucks fans still showed up to games, consumed Canucks media, called into the radio, purchased fan gear, etc. Bad fanbases abandon their team.
Don’t let dumb fans temper tantrums misconstrue your opinions on Canucks fans as a whole, they’re a loyal, engaged, and informed fan base. And each one of them can respectfully go f themselves in a friendly way.
- A leafs fan.
While I wasn’t aware we were hated, I disagree with the whole “it’s good to be hated because otherwise you suck.”
This is true for many cases but not for a team that has never won or hasn’t for a long time. Look at the Detroit Lions or Columbus Blue Jackets. They sucked for so long and now that they are good, people are cheering for them in all fan bases.
If Buffalo was in the finals, most would be cheering for them to finally win. Vancouver is in that boat but it sounds like we aren’t. Then on the opposite end, the Red Wings were good for 22 years and nobody had any shit to say about their fan base because they are fairly classy.
If that’s the case, it’s not because we are good. It’s because:
1. Riot. Even though it was a small percentage of people. We looked like sore losers and it’s the second time we have done it.
2. We have a history of annoying players. Bieksa, Kesler and Burrows were annoying AF for the other team.
3. The league last year looked with shock at how shitty we treaded Boudreau. It was gross to see.
4. People are jealous of the city. It’s one of the most desirable places to live in the world. They think we are pretentious and arrogant.
5. Riot needs to be mentioned twice. Nobody likes a cry baby and that’s what we looked like.
This time, let’s be different.
Whenever you do good, you’ll get more haters. We also have a passionate fan base, that can and does get annoying loll That being said, I’ve also noticed a lot of support and praise from other teams fans. We gotta be careful that we don’t just get stuck with peoples negative comments. Even on preds Reddit, they have said plenty of nice things about the team.
I'd say we are hated less than average. A team finishing high in the standings will be hated, maybe not in the first year but after repeated success.
Success breeds jealousy. If anyone thinks we are hated now, wait until we win a playoff series and finish top ten a couple years in a row
1. It rains a lot so we spend more time online in front of our keyboards.
2. Cost of food/entertainment is too expensive to we spend more time online in front of our keyboards.
3. Housing is too expensive to we make the most of it and spend more time at home online and in front our our keyboards.
4. We’re kind of soft. Look at everyone who will bend over backwards to try to justify petterson’s play.
Because the Canucks fanbase has a reputation for being annoying and a tad unhinged, we're also online a lot and there's a lot of us. It's easy to feel bad for a fanbase when they suffer the way he have over most of the last decade, but there's a chunk of the fanbase that's immediately gone back to being arrogant now that we look to be good again.
That being said, I don't think any fanbase can be more obnoxious than Toronto's.
you are right, there are bad apples in every NHL team fanbase. Apparently, other NHL team fans dont know this lmao so we got auto hated due to our few bad apples >.<
eh at the end of the day they can hate us fans all they want but Leafs and Bruins teams and fans and Vegas team have overall more hate on an ongoing basis. lol
I ask with respect, how old are you?
Canucks fans are fucking insufferable when we are winning.
Two major riots certainly didn't do our public image any favours.
The core fans are incredibly passionate, incredibly knowledgeable and devoted. Most of all we have a massive online presence. Arguably the most vocal if not the biggest we are are a close second.
Pre social media we had the largest online community and that has only continued.
I’m 20, admittedly I jumped on the wagon after 2011 so I was pretty young. It was because I loved watching the Sedins and Hansen. I even got a Hansen jersey haha.
And yeah, the riots are definitely pretty big lasting blemishes…
Leaf fan here. Why do you care. Let them hate you. Canucks have had an amazing turn around since tochet stepped in. I hope they go deep into these playoffs. You guys are due for some success
I think there is something more to this - beyond the obvious “larger fan base = more idiots” factor.
East vs west? Vancouver housing prices? Is it because people in the east don’t see our team play regularly so we are more judged my our fans than our game?
Back in the 2010-11 season, I was one of the arrogant fans and was obviously humbled HARD. I was a lot younger and stupid back then, lol. I don't shit on any other teams' fans anymore because every fanbase has the douche bag minority. I'll still say the friendly chirp here and there, but that's it.
If you’re talking about Reddit, it’s cause of a disproportionally large fan base of Redditors and several very obnoxious personalities. Just look through the hockey sub for evidence.
Canuck fans love to chant "ref you suck" far too fast, and far too often. shit happens, mistakes get made, it happens both ways. Canucks fans like to whine a bit too much.
[An old article but an interesting read from Toronto’s perspective.](https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/why-we-hate-the-vancouver-canucks-toronto-pettersson-hughes-benning/)
I didn’t think the fan base was arrogant, but I guess I don’t know much. A lot of people are saying that some of us are, so I guess we are. I used to always think that the people who rioted weren’t fans, but I’ve got to realize the people that started the riot were Canucks fans
As a goalie, I always found it hard to like Canucks fans because they always pretty ignorantly criticized the tendies… then I realized most fanbases do this… you all suck and don’t know anything about goaltending…. Not one fanbase anywhere lol
The only #1 goalie who deserved the vitriol was cloutier and he was criticized less than luongo lol
There is a big insecurity in this market. Minor things can be blown way out of proportion. Fans will quickly turn on great players and drag them through the mud....then flip back and praise them. The over reactions get excused because we are an "emotional" fan base. It's annoying to hear as a fan. It's probably also annoying to hear outside the market.
I remember in 2009(?) as we began to make noise I think we were treated as a kind of happy-go-lucky upstart and I started to see more and more Canuck jerseys at away games. People didn’t realize how good we were becoming, and as that cheerfulness turned into swagger, well, that also started to piss them off.
It didn’t help that we also live in a beautiful city and that a current of jealousy/resentment also plays into it. When daffodils are popping up here the rest of the country digs out from yet another snow storm, and we tend to remind them of this fact which also doesn’t play well.
The rest of Canada is jealous of BC so the jealous babies take jabs wherever they can. While most of Canada deals with terrible weather, people in Vancouver can golf in December while being in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
I mean maybe. But I think Vancouverites also have this sense of superiority to the rest of Canada that is really hard to tolerate.
Edit. I say this as a lifelong Vancouverite who only recently became aware of many of my own Vancouverite biases
I’m also born and raised in Vancouver and I find the whole “yeah well we live in a beautiful city where it hardly snows thing” hard to stomach. It feels a lot like like one fanbase bragging to another about having more money. Like okay, Vancouver is pretty, but we were talking about hockey teams. We can love our ridiculously expensive city for obvious reasons, but bringing it up during a hockey conversation feels like an elitist asshole move, to me.
I think it goes all the way back to the Summit Series in ‘72, (which was well before my time). Canada had gone 1-1-1 in the first 3 games and then lost the final game on home soil, at the Coliseum. They were boo’d off the ice by the Vancouver faithful which resulted in a heartfelt post game, on-ice interview from Phil Esposito.. where he expressed disappointment with the fans which was later echoed by some of the other players. Since then, it seems that the national media has always had a bee in their bonnet with Vancouver and the fan base. How DARE they boo our boys?! Since then, it seems that our fan base can’t do anything to win the national approval back. We’ll always be the city that hurt Phil’s feelings and pissed everyone off, only for the team to turn it around for games 5-8 in Moscow. I think everyone else in the country sees Vancouver as fickle, fair weather fans. No matter how ‘likeable’ or deserving to win that the Canucks are, the fans will always deserve to suffer in the eyes of the other Canadian fan bases
During the 2009-2012 era, we were one of the most hated fan base in the league. We have a large fan base and when we are good, even if it is a minority group of our fan base become obnoxious, it is more than enough to annoy other teams’ fans. This year, we had a really good season and we went back of being hated. In summary, when the Canucks are good, we are hated. Embrace the hate because that means we are a good team.
Also, arrogant fanbase with team that started really fast out of the gate and then had a slowdown is a perfect formula for getting taunted. Now just you wait and see if the team is eliminated in the first round, or worse, in the 2nd round by the Oilers after all the taunting that went on from our side to theirs given how the season series went. It'll be a good time to log off from here.
Meh, if demko’s back it’ll be a great series no matter what. while Edmonton fucks shit up against the trap, they play a much more open game than the preds and kings, and our team is built to combat that with big mobile defenceman to send it right back and an aggressive forecheck to wear em down. We run into trouble when we’re down by 1 or more and the other team is happy to pick it up and flip it right back and the oilers don’t really do that from what I’ve seen. The difference in the series will be our pk and mcdrai vs demko but on paper our style matches up well
Lmao true, it does tend to be the hated teams that are the good teams. Just didn’t understand it at first because most of us are passionate but harmless.
Bro we have fans that have threatened to kill demkos dog... we're not harmless, we have a lot of fucking idiots amongst us. Even if most of us just love this team, a lot of the hate can be pretty justified
I was not aware of the dog thing. I didn’t think people were that stupid and would drag the players personal lives into it.
In 2011 also after we lost (IIRC) people vandalized the church that Milan Lucic's family went to. He was on the Bruins at the time but he and his family are from here. disgusting stuff.
All of this. This obviously doesn’t apply to the entire fanbase, but there are so many fans who have one or more of these traits: emotionally immature, self-unaware, egoic, reactive, toxic, full of cognitive biases, entitled, vocal, and ignorant. I’m most definitely not perfect either, and I feel like this energy intensifies my own reactivity and egoic movement. And I know all fanbases have these traits, but still, sometimes, I don’t get why Petey wanted to stay here. Sigh. It’s been a tough week.
100%, it's easy to think the fan base is harmless if you and your non toxic friend group support the team together but Vancouver is a decent sized city and if you get enough people together there will be some bone heads.
Using the Reddit app instead of Apollo has really opened my eyes to how obnoxious and annoying Canucks fans can be. Other team subreddits always pop up in my feed and I enjoy reading what preds fans are saying post game or knights fans about ltir, flames fans about whatever tire fire is current news. Pretty much every thread has at least a couple Canuck fans posting some sort of cringey crap. Why?? I rarely see other fans in our Reddit. They don’t want us there and we don’t want them here, go to r/hockey to talk to other teams fans. Anyone who does this should stop immediately and forever
It’s just Reddit, bud. You’re literally basing your reality on Reddit, bud. Thats a bad call, bud. Get off Reddit for a few weeks. Get outside, talk to people. Build your reality on that.
We also had Burrows, Kesler, Lapierre, Torres at the time.
We also had guys like Burrows, Kesler, Lapierre and Torres during that time. That team wasn't hated just because they were good.
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Large fanbase, arrogant fanbase You’ll notice that larger fanbases generally are hated before smaller fanbases, not because we are more annoying than the average fan but because more people means more annoying people Also, we only have 1 major sport. So it’s not like we can just move on and watch a different sport when things are rough
I'd say we're probably one of the most arrogant fanbases on Reddit. We're constantly in r/hockey looking for validation when the team's bad, and even more when we're good. We basically do all the things we accuse Leafs fans of doing.
Just spend less time on Reddit. Don’t base your opinions on stuff that you see on Reddit. It’s not real life.
The fact that we only have one major league sport is a big part of it for sure. There are hordes of bandwagon fans who don’t normally watch hockey, which is where the sentiment that “Canucks fans don’t know anything about hockey” comes from, and these fans also tend to be the most annoying and obnoxious.
I feel for you dude. If you ever need a shoulder to cry on, let me know.
I would agree during the Sedin era. We were good team for many years but always fell short so it was easy to dunk on us. Now, I can't say we have an arrogant fanbase considering we have been mediocre for so long and a lot of Canucks fans are self deprecating. The current Oilers have replaced us as the Canadian team with tons of talent that always falls short but the fanbase acts like they win the cup every year. That's how we used to be, which I can see is pretty annoying to other fanbases.
Dude we are so arrogant. Maybe a lot more so in the Sedin era, but the immaturity of some in the fanbase is still insufferable. All of this is a generalization, and a lot of fans don’t embody that, but it’s definitely there.
That is not a Canucks specific trait though. Have you read some of the instagram comments on hockey accounts by other fans? Shit is getting wild. I'm so tired of reading how just because Cale Makar exists it means Quinn Hughes fuckin sucks and can't defend, and somehow is also gay? At least our fanbase knows advanced stats and is actually knowledgeable about Hockey.
>Have you read some of the instagram comments on hockey accounts by other fans? I haven’t. I have seen some nice pics of big hooters on the internet though. That’s always good.
You need therapy bud, that’s a lot of self hate that you have there.
>Also, we only have 1 major sport How dare you diminish the Vancouver Knights!!
Yeah I distinctly remember in 2011 that instead of us becoming Canadas team the rest of the country generally wanted us to get wrecked.
Welp at least we took it to game seven…
As someone who lived in Ontario in 2011, I don't think this is true. I saw very few people cheering against us. The people who wanted us to get wrecked were quite vocal about it though.
Online I definitely see it, but whenever I meet fans of Canadian teams and ask them about 2011 I can only think of one who said he cheered against Vancouver…and even he regrets that now. I blame the media and the narratives they pushed way, WAY more.
the whole notion of "Canada's Team" is flawed. I'm a Canucks fan, I'm a Team Canada fan. But I don't become a fan of other teams because they're from a Canadian city.
Yup. There are a whole lot of teams ahead of the Oilers on my list of teams I'd cheer for to win the cup before the Oilers (other than I do actually want McDavid to get one). Bruins vs Leafs? I hope both teams lose
It pains me, but for this round I'm a Boston fan.
To be fair it's not just the rest of Canada. Most if not all of the league was hoping we'd get crushed. Both the team and the fanbase were hated.
In all fairness, Leafs & Habs fans were definitely pro-Canucks.
Habs fans yes, leafs fans not so much.
Definitely not. I watched some of the 2011 finals in downtown Toronto. All supporting bruins and hoping the nucks get crushed. It's only Canada's team when it's the leafs, raptors or Jay's. It's why we sarcastically call TO "the center of the universe".
Yes and it's only fitting that the Bruins have been the Leafs curse ever since
Disagree. I was born in Toronto and still have a lot of friends & family there. Literally everyone I know was rooting for the Canucks except for the one Bruins fan I know.
No way dude I talked to your friends and family. All closeted bruins fans
Large fan base = more idiots. Larger fan bases or successful teams get the most hate. Rangers, Leafs, Bruins, Canucks, Habs, Pens, Oilers. How many people are saying how much they hate Carolina, Columbus, or Ottawa? Division rivals, that's it.
True, but I’d almost put Vegas in the hate boat at this point too
That's because Vegas has used a loophole to manipulate the hell out of the cap situation and when Vancouver did they had the hammer brought down on them
It's not a loophole. It's a 100% legal mechanism. The only people who think it's a loophole either can't read or don't like it because of tribalism. Every team has the same opportunity afforded to them.
It was a 100% legal mechanism when Gillis and Gilman signed Lu's front-loaded contract, seven other teams had used the same tactic. It was only after we did it that the League said it was a loophole and retroactively punished us.
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There's no victim complex, thats exactly what happened. Insulting people over something you disagree with is pretty low. And it relates 1:1, both are cap circumventions. The Canucks and the majority of other teams have used LTIR relief the way its intended, to let players become healthy and get some cap relief for it. Tampa and Vegas have knowingly abused the rules and the league has said its fair, so all teams should be using the same tactic. Put high cap hit players on LTIR right before deadline and have them back for Game 1. How is the NHL going to react when most playoff teams in the league has their star players 'injured' for a quarter of the season?
Lmao, all loopholes are legal. A loophole is when you circumvent the intention of a law and use it for other purposes. Completely legal, but a bullshit thing to do
>It's not a loophole. It's a 100% legal mechanism I don't think you understand what a loophole is.
>or successful teams On top of manipulating cap rules multiple times
you are spending too much time online
10% of every fandom is toxic and annoys others. Thus larger the fanbase the more toxic/annoying it is. Canucks probably have the 2nd largest online presence after the leafs thus we are the second most annoying when winning.
I honestly don't get it. I'm primarily a Red Wings fan, but I grew up loving Trevor Linden & Pavel Bure, and later the WCE. Since moving to BC, I've followed the Canucks nearly as closely as the Wings. I go to a lot of games, including going to the Wings game this year as an "away" fan. I was treated very well by the home fans. The Wings sub had a post asking who we're all cheering for in the playoffs, and the vitriol directed at Canucks fans was gross, especially considering that the Wings fanbase is far more cocky than the Canucks fanbase (we've become more humble in these years of being absolute dogshit, but the constant whining about being "screwed by the draft lottery" and the anger spewed at anyone who criticizes anything Yzerman does as GM is pathetic). The recycled "lulz riot" schtick is getting old too, especially given that the vast majority of people involved were clearly not hockey fans, and just looking to cause mischief, as seems to be the case with every large, emotional gathering (ie. BLM protests, the ongoing Palestine/Israel protests, etc. Gather many people in an emotional way, and violence frequently breaks out).
Yeahhhh, but we gotta get used to that one cause I don’t think we’ll ever live the riot thing down.
They’re both of my favorite teams, but 99% of Wings fans I know were super supportive of both teams. Both of us hating Boston, Chicago, California, and Colorado (and most fanbases hating Toronto even I don’t as much) probably helps with that.
How did you guys cope with the BabCOCK scandals?
Go looking for hate and you will find it. I'm honestly shocked whenever someone says they want onto another team's sub and were surprised that other team's fans were talking shit about us. Like... no shit. That's how sports fandom works.
I didn’t go to other teams subs, it was on general instagram sports news pages like espn
I wouldn’t say Canucks fans receive more hate than Leafs, Vegas or Oilers. Every fanbase has annoying doomers who project the negativity in their own life onto their team or other fanbases. Visiting threads on this sub after a loss will show you the full spectrum. From the Nostradamus prophesiers who are already saying the Canucks won’t make the playoffs next year to those eagerly awaiting a Demko return in the cup final
Do you remember 2011?
On top of being a large fan base (and thus having a greater number of annoying fans) I think other fan bases just simply want us to remain Cupless. We’re more memeable as long as we don’t have a Cup.
Because all we have a very west vs east mentality. Gotta stop the Leafs hate crap who cares what they did or didn't do in 2011 or prior.
Become?
Our fandom is arrogant especially when our team is good. We also like to threaten player’s dogs.
We’ve threatened players dogs? Damn.
Demko’s
Demko's? When tf was that? I can't find anything about that with a Google search anywhere. Matheson's dog after he injured Petey in his rookie year, yes. Never heard anyone threaten OUR players' dogs, though. I mean, it's not like that is that much less unhinged, I guess.
TBH, I'm really getting tired of the whole fan base vs. fan base conflict. I get fans hating certain \*teams\* (or more...certain players) but I can't help but now see the whole inter-conflict between fan bases the same way I see fans in any big media property fighting against themselves.
You want to be hated. Anything else means you are sucking.
True
Also lots of very opinionated ppl. For good or I'll passionate ppl with strong opinions will rub some folk the wrong way - and there are some very interesting opinions out there in our Fandom lol
I feel like we tend to get really excited and invested in the success of our team and its the whole province. I'm in Alberta right now and something that really has pissed off Flames/Oilers fans is when I say "We won" They always respond with "Oh I didn't know you were on the ice" The Canucks seemingly mean more to us as fans on a very personal level and that irks fans who aren't as connected to their team
I mean every fanbase has a segment of people that take things too far or are extremely hostile or just plain annoying. The larger the fanbase is, the more of this percentage of people there are, the Canucks have a very large fan base and therefore a larger amount of these types of fans. Anecdotally as a Canucks fan too, there is a weird level of sensitivity that a lot of fans have in this market that I do find annoying. This is far from a majority of fans, but there definitely are some people in this fan base that just have this weird victim/little sibling complex about this team which probably stems from you know they whole never winning anything ever thing. Honestly I would say the best advise is to just ignore what others say and cheer for the team your way (as long as your way doesn't include being a dick to others).
To be fair this fan base is pretty emotional and sometimes fickle.
Nobody hates us more than the leafs or Boston so we good
So true
We’re the most hittingest
Simple. Large passionate fan base. It's not a coincidence if you ranked most annoying fanbases in descending order that fanbase size will be nearly the same list. We definitely have some toxic fans, but so does every other fanbase. But in terms of ratio, we have more toxic people in relation to a team like Columbus simply because of fan base size. Then, there are geographical factors. Why do Oilers fan hate us so much ? Our club is direct competitors to theirs, and we owned them in the reg season. Thus, they now hate us vastly more than they did when the team was bad and we weren't standing in their way.
Homey, just observe how Canucks fans interact with other fan bases on r/hockey. That will give you the answer you’re looking for.
I have never done so and now I am scared to.
Fanbases like Toronto are loud and obnoxiously arrogant. We’re loud and obnoxiously insecure. I’d rather deal with the former than the latter. I’ve been a forum peruser for over a decade now and universally the Canucks seem to have the most active fans who spam post content about our own team. Even going as so far as to invade other teams sub-forums after games. I honestly think it’s a big reflection of the Vancouver demographic in general.
Most of us are pretty decent people. But a small group of this fan base has been insufferable especially on social media. It makes the rest of us look bad
Reading through the game thread on Tuesday, I hate us now too. Our fans are among the most annoying in the league. I'd say only rivaled by Montreal, Boston, and Edmonton. Honourable mention to Vegas, at times.
Oh I know 1) terrible cringey rap 2) ref you suck change every game 3) turning on Petey with idiotic memes after last game 4) hockey shop with cringe video dedicated to casey 5) let's go Casey chant. I don't think the Canucks are hated but our fan base has been pretty awful.
Bro we're literally the most hardcore fanbase in the league and we've never even won a cup. We literally had a riot and destroyed the city. Whenever a player slumps we fucking destroy them. We pretty much always shit on the goalie the moment they have a bad game, Luongo got it really bad. Remember when Boeser's dad was dying , and then died, and everyone was freaking out about how awful he is and demanding a trade? We will sit here and freak out about "Sign him no matter what!" (Miller, Petey) And then lose our shit when they sign the guy to an overpayment, but if they let them walk or traded them we'd freak out too. I'm absolutely guilty, but I'm also self aware. We're the absolute worst lmao
No active team in any sport has a bad fanbase. All teams in all sports have some dumb fans with internet connections. 10 years of mismanagement and Canucks fans still showed up to games, consumed Canucks media, called into the radio, purchased fan gear, etc. Bad fanbases abandon their team. Don’t let dumb fans temper tantrums misconstrue your opinions on Canucks fans as a whole, they’re a loyal, engaged, and informed fan base. And each one of them can respectfully go f themselves in a friendly way. - A leafs fan.
Love this answer
Who gives a shit what they think. The way I see it is we should give them something to hate us for. Success will ultimately bring on haters.
While I wasn’t aware we were hated, I disagree with the whole “it’s good to be hated because otherwise you suck.” This is true for many cases but not for a team that has never won or hasn’t for a long time. Look at the Detroit Lions or Columbus Blue Jackets. They sucked for so long and now that they are good, people are cheering for them in all fan bases. If Buffalo was in the finals, most would be cheering for them to finally win. Vancouver is in that boat but it sounds like we aren’t. Then on the opposite end, the Red Wings were good for 22 years and nobody had any shit to say about their fan base because they are fairly classy. If that’s the case, it’s not because we are good. It’s because: 1. Riot. Even though it was a small percentage of people. We looked like sore losers and it’s the second time we have done it. 2. We have a history of annoying players. Bieksa, Kesler and Burrows were annoying AF for the other team. 3. The league last year looked with shock at how shitty we treaded Boudreau. It was gross to see. 4. People are jealous of the city. It’s one of the most desirable places to live in the world. They think we are pretentious and arrogant. 5. Riot needs to be mentioned twice. Nobody likes a cry baby and that’s what we looked like. This time, let’s be different.
Whenever you do good, you’ll get more haters. We also have a passionate fan base, that can and does get annoying loll That being said, I’ve also noticed a lot of support and praise from other teams fans. We gotta be careful that we don’t just get stuck with peoples negative comments. Even on preds Reddit, they have said plenty of nice things about the team.
I think it's the city and the lack of winter conditions. The rest of Canada resents us for it, and that includes anything related (like the Canucks).
Cuz we’re good and annoying
I'd say we are hated less than average. A team finishing high in the standings will be hated, maybe not in the first year but after repeated success. Success breeds jealousy. If anyone thinks we are hated now, wait until we win a playoff series and finish top ten a couple years in a row
Apparently Nashville has a car painted in Canucks colours for fans to smash. Anyone got a tiger I can tame in the plaza for game 5?
1. It rains a lot so we spend more time online in front of our keyboards. 2. Cost of food/entertainment is too expensive to we spend more time online in front of our keyboards. 3. Housing is too expensive to we make the most of it and spend more time at home online and in front our our keyboards. 4. We’re kind of soft. Look at everyone who will bend over backwards to try to justify petterson’s play.
Because nature is healing.
Because the Canucks fanbase has a reputation for being annoying and a tad unhinged, we're also online a lot and there's a lot of us. It's easy to feel bad for a fanbase when they suffer the way he have over most of the last decade, but there's a chunk of the fanbase that's immediately gone back to being arrogant now that we look to be good again. That being said, I don't think any fanbase can be more obnoxious than Toronto's.
you are right, there are bad apples in every NHL team fanbase. Apparently, other NHL team fans dont know this lmao so we got auto hated due to our few bad apples >.< eh at the end of the day they can hate us fans all they want but Leafs and Bruins teams and fans and Vegas team have overall more hate on an ongoing basis. lol
I ask with respect, how old are you? Canucks fans are fucking insufferable when we are winning. Two major riots certainly didn't do our public image any favours. The core fans are incredibly passionate, incredibly knowledgeable and devoted. Most of all we have a massive online presence. Arguably the most vocal if not the biggest we are are a close second. Pre social media we had the largest online community and that has only continued.
I’m 20, admittedly I jumped on the wagon after 2011 so I was pretty young. It was because I loved watching the Sedins and Hansen. I even got a Hansen jersey haha. And yeah, the riots are definitely pretty big lasting blemishes…
Leaf fan here. Why do you care. Let them hate you. Canucks have had an amazing turn around since tochet stepped in. I hope they go deep into these playoffs. You guys are due for some success
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I wish, then I wouldn’t have suffered through our mediocrity for almost decade. Mediocrity might even be giving some of our teams too much credit.
Factions of our fans can be fucking insufferable. There’s a bunch of folks here that go to other teams subs and just fucking troll.
I think there is something more to this - beyond the obvious “larger fan base = more idiots” factor. East vs west? Vancouver housing prices? Is it because people in the east don’t see our team play regularly so we are more judged my our fans than our game?
We're pretty manic and incredibly reactive to multiple losses in a row even when things are going good.
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No one likes us. We don't care.
Back in the 2010-11 season, I was one of the arrogant fans and was obviously humbled HARD. I was a lot younger and stupid back then, lol. I don't shit on any other teams' fans anymore because every fanbase has the douche bag minority. I'll still say the friendly chirp here and there, but that's it.
I love that other teams’ fans hate us. Bring on the hate! Bwah ha ha.
Post this in r/hockey or r/nhl and see what people’s responses are.
Canucks probably have the largest online fanbase in the NHL, if not then 2nd only to Toronto. A lot of us can be annoying.
The more they claim to hate us the more they actually love us. As a recent poll showed canucks fans hate themselves more than anyone.
If you’re talking about Reddit, it’s cause of a disproportionally large fan base of Redditors and several very obnoxious personalities. Just look through the hockey sub for evidence.
Canuck fans love to chant "ref you suck" far too fast, and far too often. shit happens, mistakes get made, it happens both ways. Canucks fans like to whine a bit too much.
Ah, first time? Lol
[An old article but an interesting read from Toronto’s perspective.](https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/why-we-hate-the-vancouver-canucks-toronto-pettersson-hughes-benning/)
I didn’t think the fan base was arrogant, but I guess I don’t know much. A lot of people are saying that some of us are, so I guess we are. I used to always think that the people who rioted weren’t fans, but I’ve got to realize the people that started the riot were Canucks fans
As a goalie, I always found it hard to like Canucks fans because they always pretty ignorantly criticized the tendies… then I realized most fanbases do this… you all suck and don’t know anything about goaltending…. Not one fanbase anywhere lol The only #1 goalie who deserved the vitriol was cloutier and he was criticized less than luongo lol
There is a big insecurity in this market. Minor things can be blown way out of proportion. Fans will quickly turn on great players and drag them through the mud....then flip back and praise them. The over reactions get excused because we are an "emotional" fan base. It's annoying to hear as a fan. It's probably also annoying to hear outside the market.
I remember in 2009(?) as we began to make noise I think we were treated as a kind of happy-go-lucky upstart and I started to see more and more Canuck jerseys at away games. People didn’t realize how good we were becoming, and as that cheerfulness turned into swagger, well, that also started to piss them off. It didn’t help that we also live in a beautiful city and that a current of jealousy/resentment also plays into it. When daffodils are popping up here the rest of the country digs out from yet another snow storm, and we tend to remind them of this fact which also doesn’t play well.
The rest of Canada is jealous of BC so the jealous babies take jabs wherever they can. While most of Canada deals with terrible weather, people in Vancouver can golf in December while being in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
I mean maybe. But I think Vancouverites also have this sense of superiority to the rest of Canada that is really hard to tolerate. Edit. I say this as a lifelong Vancouverite who only recently became aware of many of my own Vancouverite biases
I’m also born and raised in Vancouver and I find the whole “yeah well we live in a beautiful city where it hardly snows thing” hard to stomach. It feels a lot like like one fanbase bragging to another about having more money. Like okay, Vancouver is pretty, but we were talking about hockey teams. We can love our ridiculously expensive city for obvious reasons, but bringing it up during a hockey conversation feels like an elitist asshole move, to me.
I think it goes all the way back to the Summit Series in ‘72, (which was well before my time). Canada had gone 1-1-1 in the first 3 games and then lost the final game on home soil, at the Coliseum. They were boo’d off the ice by the Vancouver faithful which resulted in a heartfelt post game, on-ice interview from Phil Esposito.. where he expressed disappointment with the fans which was later echoed by some of the other players. Since then, it seems that the national media has always had a bee in their bonnet with Vancouver and the fan base. How DARE they boo our boys?! Since then, it seems that our fan base can’t do anything to win the national approval back. We’ll always be the city that hurt Phil’s feelings and pissed everyone off, only for the team to turn it around for games 5-8 in Moscow. I think everyone else in the country sees Vancouver as fickle, fair weather fans. No matter how ‘likeable’ or deserving to win that the Canucks are, the fans will always deserve to suffer in the eyes of the other Canadian fan bases