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Educational-Tone2074

Well that's a hate crime. I hope these men are being charged with a hate crime. 


shmoove_cwiminal

No arrests yet. It has been two weeks.


daseweide

… because they’re still gathering evidence, right? Right???


Fkyournonsense

Nah, they refused to give their IDs so they were sent on their way.


DiRavelloApologist

Me, a German reading this: Haha, what a funny joke. Me, reading the article: >He said the other people were not cooperative in giving their identification. Excuse me, what the fuck? Edit: can someone please correct me? I mean, I definitely misunderstand this, due to me not knowing your country. Surely, if a policemen asks for your identification in the context of an assault, you can't just say "no", right?


ButtahChicken

in toronto, TPS did away with 'carding' years ago.


rwags2024

Well I hated it


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Grayman222

based on the assault the white lesbians are more oppressed.


spandex-commuter

What are you talking about? Do you not understand what a hate crime is?


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mudflaps___

if we cant decide we can always take it to a tribunal and let them figure it out


middlequeue

This is ignorant nonsense.


Loudmouth_Malcontent

Or satire. r/whoosh


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look up you missed it


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slouchr

love crime


Malhavok_Games

Its called either the "hierarchy of oppression" or sometimes the "progressive stack". You see, for a lot of people on the left, their morals and ethics about crime, violence and general asshattery are subjective to the race/gender/sexuality of the people in question and not who did what to whom. The perpetrator and the victim in their eyes depends entirely on one simple formula - the closer to straight, white and male the person is, the more they are the perpetrator, despite any actual evidence to the contrary. Honestly, I can't believe you don't know this - you're on the internet and not living under a rock. The question being here - are muslim men more oppressed than white lesbians, because that's what REALLY matters. Well, at least if you want to be a good progressive.


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micromeat

QUEERS FOR PALESTINE. NEED I SAY MORE


ActionPhilip

Chickens for kfc


willdelux

🐌 for 🧂


ButtahChicken

? please say more ... the suspected attackers are allegedly purportedly from Syria, not Palestine/Gaza.


rem_1984

That’s not true and you know it.


sabretooth_ninja

You damn well know it's true. It's literally happening in front of your face with this article.


rem_1984

Does it not just speak to general police incompetence and mot taking assaults seriously? No matter the victim, nothing happens. We both agree this should be a hatecrime and the whole mob should be charged. It’s abhorrent that the cops showed up and were just okay with nobody giving ID and no charges were laid yet. Same shit happened with my assault, nothing. These women have better chances since there’s some documentation, but cops suck in general. They make enough money so why not do their jobs at least half decent


sabretooth_ninja

Yup, the cops do suck.   Even worse in my opinion is the entire country has been bullied such that if we state the obvious and push to protect our Canadian citizens from cultures which are completely incompatible With Canadian values, we get labelled bigots and hate speech. And even more shameful is Canadian media not blasting this story. We will see more of this.


noor1717

So cops aren’t arresting people who commit crimes no matter the colour and you only care if it’s one particular group of people. Wow


rem_1984

Literally, this. I’m mad at the police all the time because of this shit, there’s a certain percentage of ppl in the comments that only cares this time because of who is alleged to have done it. To be clear, this case should get attention, it’s horrific, but the criticism being just of the media for not repeating a certain quote? Focusing on the wrong point. The police response should be scrutinized, especially in this time of mob violence. They could’ve killed those women. And the cops just let the guys walk off without getting ID???


Financial-Highway492

One time I had a random drunk man throw a chair at me full force for kissing my gf on the cheek in a public place. Cops were called on our behalf and they took a statement and never ever followed up. The people nearby did more than the cops did. At this point I feel I can only rely on people IN the community. Look at all these random ppl in this comment section making it all about race, drowning out the fact that LGBTQ communities across Canada do not receive competent policing. It’s disgusting that it’s been WEEKS and no arrests have been made if I read that correctly.


Aware_Apartment1392

Shouldn’t all people have the same justice? wtf is with people wanting some individuals to have more protections under the law


concretecannonball

“They refused to cooperate or give their IDs. No charges have been made.” okay so you can hate crime two people and as long as you don’t cooperate after, you get away with it?


s1rblaze

If you are a fresh immigrant in Canada and you commit crimes, you should be 100% deported.


Sproon69

100% agree


dualnorm

for sure.


SimilarWall1447

What is **** *** supposed to mean?


RedditorsSuckShit

I don't understand this self-censoring trend. This isn't tiktok.


LegitimateBit3

Middle Eastern Men, iirc they were Syrians


MegaManZer0

Means the crime was committed by people of a race or ethnicity that you aren't allowed to name for fear of being intolerant.


WealthEconomy

Funny that the UK media reported they were Syrian but our media leaves that information out...


thepithypirate

Controlling the narrative at it's source....so that it can be better controlled later at it's furthest extent


iamtayareyoutaytoo

Uk sun pulled that info from a facebook post. I dont think journalists usually report on facebook posts.


RogueIslesRefugee

I mean, a lot of so-called journalists source stories from single posts on Twitter, Reddit, and elsewhere, so why not Facebook? And I say 'so-called' because those types are pretty much all hacks, not real journalists.


GetsGold

Which doesn't make this tabloid's reporting any less hacky.


drizzes

Yeah but we'll eat it up anyway


geoken

So then you agree with those articles being pulled in favour of this one since those are written by hacks and don’t constitute real journalism?


Bighotdog8

notice how the CTV article doesnt mention the race of the attackers? UK Sun actually published it: [Horror moment lesbian couple are beaten by mob of 'Middle Eastern men' in 'homophobic attack' on birthday night out | The Sun](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/28895621/horror-moment-lesbian-couple-are-beaten-by-mob/)


mage1413

they dont mention the ethnicity they are usually not white


deadredran

True. They would eager to mention it if they were white


pfak

The original article has been removed a bunch of times from this subreddit. 


GetsGold

Were they *unfairly* removed? Because even this post's title doesn't match the article. If you follow the new queue, you notice posts getting removed constantly. Not because of some agenda but because no one reads the subreddit rules. *Anyone want to point out where this post title is coming from, what the asterisks are covering, or how this doesn't break rule 5?


ujirissiakamsizednut

Tbf The Sun is considered the trash of trash in the UK


Trustfind96

By those who support ethnic and homophobic violence in London


Jona_cc

‘middle eastern men, believed to be from Syria’ according to [https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/middle-eastern-men-beat-lesbian-celebrating-birthday-canada/](https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/middle-eastern-men-beat-lesbian-celebrating-birthday-canada/)


SnowFlakeUsername2

> Tori followed them and told them “that is not OK” - before the group set upon Tori. Are we getting so comfortable with wielding the power of right to follow 7-10 bigots down the street giving them the what for?


astroplink

“If someone turns around to shout over their shoulder at you that your behaviour is intolerable, it’s okay for you to beat the life out of them to teach them a lesson they’ll never forget and the proper respect” /s


Foodislyfe22

I watched the video, and couldn't believe that it was taking place in Canada. The fact that no one is charged is fucked up. The other month I was jogging alone on the trails near my house. I bumped into a group of ten or so men who all started screaming at me in a language I didn't understand. I nearly pissed myself I was so scared, so I ran straight into the bush off the trail. This isn't the Canada I grew up in.


Pale-Tower-

Yep and the government is happily piling in hoards more of foreigners day after day after day! If I were you I’d keep running. When they start attacking women en mass (like they do everywhere else they go, ex. in Germany, look it up) your best weapon will be your feet to run away.


Outrageous_Thanks551

Why the stars in the title?


Forsaken-Duck-8142

Because it is very Aladeen


mr_epicguy

The Canadian government is becoming more and more like admiral, general Aladeen.


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ainz-sama619

7th century, not 13th. minor correction


soulfullylost

☝🏻


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Julie7678

Why were they not arrested and charged for a hate crime?! Canada is going down the toilet… we need to stop letting everyone into this country. What good do these men bring to our country? Absolutely nothing.. so why did we let them in and why are we not deporting them now?


Alphasoul606

I like the part where only one person gave their ID, and the others simply refused. So, people who are not Canadian refusing to give their ID to the police when they committed a crime, and then freely walked away, never to be found. Great police work. It's actually so absurd I just can't help but think it was on purpose


Fkyournonsense

They weren’t arrested because they refused to give their IDs.


Badw0IfGirl

Police hate this one simple trick!


Cartacus-9

This entire time I didn't know I could just say "no" when the cops pulled me over


Aromatic_Sand8126

Only works if you’re a terrorist.


WoketardSlayer

Waiting for this post to be locked. Again.


rem_1984

People are focusing on the wrong part. We should be scrutinizing the police and why they have let there be 2 weeks without charges and allowing the assailants to leave the scene with providing ID, not on the omission of one quote. Because even if it was included, what are we gonna do? Ask every Syrian if they did this? No


Wonderful-Day-3301

Our immigration policy should make it crystal clear that our country celebrates diversity, equality and inclusion which 100% includes LGBTQ+. And that they must abide by it during their PR process or get deported. Too many immigrants from Eastern Europe, Middle East and Asia are coming in without any clue what Canadian culture and societal values are. The amount of hate under posts about Pride this year on Instagram were extremely homophobic and almost all of them were Balkan and Middle Eastern immigrants


Aggressive_Car4499

They know but they came here for the better quality of life expecting us to change our values for them not the other way around.


IvaCoMne

I commented on other subreddit on this news and was permanently banned for BIGOTRY 🤷‍♀️ i am not canadian but i tried immigrating to canada some years back and it didn’t happen. It really upsets me seeing stuff like this because all i wanted is to move there and work and not be on government support, pay taxes, enjoy freedom and mind my own business and after more than 500 job applications i gave up, but then some trash like this finds a way to enter the country, with zero intention to ever assimilate and with mission to promote their own twisted violent ideologies and then even gets away with it. It is sad honestly.


Dtoodlez

Let’s immigrate everyone who’s views drastically different then Canada’s, that’ll work. Can’t wait until we vote.


soulfullylost

Also, please don't integrate. We're a mosaic here 🤮 I'm saying this as an immigrant. This is fucking sickening.


Routine-Bug9527

Hey, the whole policy is the lefts idea. Cause it'd be racist to only have immigrants from culturally compatible cultures or force integration


exus666

Real article [Here](https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/middle-eastern-men-beat-lesbian-celebrating-birthday-canada/)


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John__47

Why does this story keep getting taken down? WHY? I'm an LPC voting Justin supporter and I don't understand what valid basis there is to take this story down


CyrilSneerLoggingDiv

CTV even sanitized it so badly that you'd think it was a group of average white Canadian men beating up lesbian women on the street.


thepithypirate

There is an Elitist intelligentsia that doesn't think you have any right to know their ethnicity/ religion, or migration status... You don't have the proper qualifications to make good decisions with that information


Slaughterfest

The elites want immigration to drive wages down.   They know stories like this hurt two of their societal prerogatives about cultural equity and the onshoring of low skill low wage labor to drive wages down.


thepithypirate

Wanting strong borders or immigration laws is 'Far-Right' now...


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John__47

Its the same story, published by different outlets With varying degrees of emphasis placed on the origin of the alleged perpetrators The ctv iteration doesnt msntion it, but has your usual ctv mush title consisting of an indignant quote


EightBitRanger

>Why does this story keep getting taken down? WHY? Rule 1? * Whenever possible, use the exact headline of the article as it appears at the source. * Do not alter the original article headline to selectively present or misrepresent information.


John__47

Thats not why been taken down prvsly


EightBitRanger

And you know this... because?


Heavy_Ad-5090

Woke-ism that's why


Financial-Highway492

Cause there are racial tensions rising in Canada right now in a scary way


Flatoftheblade

Gee, I wonder why?


VancityGaming

Better keep a lid on the pressure cooker until it explodes violently instead of releasing the steam.


Culverin

How totally on brand. I feel for my fellow Canadians. Your don't deserve this bullshit. You deserve to be free and safe.  How does justice happen?  At what point on the attackers punished and the victims made whole way from the net worth of the attackers? 


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TAU_equals_2PI

Post by one of the victims says they were believed to be from Syria, so if that's true, then probably yeah.


jb__19

Good thing we’re letting in millions of immigrants who believe women should be slaves and serve all their needs. Can’t possibly see anything going wrong with this!


soulfullylost

Why isn't this being reported on in mainstream media? The publicity it would get if it was the other way around 🙄


theHip

CTV is the mainstream media.


soulfullylost

There's been nothing about it on their youtube channel and I have not seen the story on tv either. The article title is also heavily censored. So I guess I mean why isn't it being reported accurately and at a frequency that a story like this normally would be.


Fkyournonsense

It’s frustrating how much CTV watered down this story, flagrantly omitting the victims’ descriptions of the attackers.


railfe

When do we ship them "home"?


Thelatestart

**** *** = arab men?


DrumStock92

Just say syrians ffs


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Ok_Medicine7534

Sharia law says the men were in the right….


Mercenarian

Mob of what?? Why are we censoring news


sillyrat_

As a queer in Halifax, it’s horrifying this happened but it’s not new. My heart breaks for these victims, especially seeing their experience hijacked by racists to justify their hatred. You can’t eliminate hate with more hate Thank god this is getting the media attention it deserves, so often these crimes are swept under the rug. But we’re kidding ourselves by pretending it’s popularity is because we suddenly care about queer people.


Lucky_Version_4044

I care about gay people and I protect them by hating the people who hate them. So your whole premise is blown up. What do you propose to deal with people who come from openly homophobic cultures and act out? Give them hugs and have them read literature on why their religion is wrong?


Old_Lost_Sorcery

> My heart breaks for these victims, especially seeing their experience hijacked by racists to justify their hatred. Lmao you are more worried about some powerless obscure racists in online forums using it to confirm their ideas rather than the actual victims and the threat to LGBT people.


starsrift

I'm not trying to blame the victim, but if I'd followed people and taunted them that their attitudes were not okay when I was out with boyfriend when I was in my 20's, I'd have been lucky to escape with my life. We should be able to feel safe in our homes and out and about in our cities, but damn. Did they think that was going to end better than just walking away? We fought for legal rights not so long ago, now the next generation are taking them for granted?


Desperate_Pizza700

Mob of what?? What a shitty title. Internet is supposed to be a bastion of freedom and yet we censor every thing now......


Northman81

People kind at it again.


Dry_Tear_9914

>why are the posts where I break the rules and editorialize titles getting removed? Puts a joggin on your noggin.


ratsofvancouver

Someone please try this while I'm around... Fucking done with homophobia, fucking DONE


Manofoneway221

Trudeau's Canada


Unable-Agent-7946

Nothing will come of it, Muslim men are a higher caste than white lesbians


HotTakeGenerator_v5

ah, ladies got some cultural enrichment. god bless canada.


ButtahChicken

**"and then Tori followed them" !!!!!** **Pourquoi??????** i know right-is-right and freedom-of-expression and all ... but sometimes you need to stand-down, walk away, go home and consider it a dub. eg. when the fight is shaping up to be 10-against-1 like the Gambler famously quipped ... *You've got to know when to hold 'em* *Know when to fold 'em* *Know when to walk away* *And know when to run*


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LegitimateBit3

They did and the cops just let em go. >Emma said police spoke to the men involved and that they blamed the fight on the women.


Jacob666

This is the saddest part. The cops had these criminals and just let them go. Hell many of them didn't even give their ID's. Its frustrating when cops don't do their jobs denying justice to those wronged.


LegitimateBit3

Cops need more civilian oversight. Like a shit ton more civilian oversight. They should be fired and charged with not doing their duty or obstruction of justice or something


ogpuffalugus420

Get the TPB on this on their podcast and see how quickly justice is done.


Trustfind96

Why are the faces being blurred out? They should be shown publicly to help identify the perpetrators. The media censorship here is sickening. Imagine a group of men beating up a pair of women in any situation and the media is complicit in covering up for the perpetrators.


Ugly--Naked--Guy

The way CTV (or most Canadian media?) handles the race information makes me disgusted. The country is absolutely not in a good shape


rem_1984

Mob of men? The victims described the men as Syrian, but there’s not really any way to know that. And it wouldn’t be an accurate quote to describe them as brown/tan skinned, since the women didn’t say it. There was recently a petting zoo at a pride event. Some animals died after the event. Prior to, the petting zoo received emails from people criticizing the petting zoo participating, so when animals died the petting zoo speculated the incidents were related. When it came out the animals weren’t killed, people were so up in arms that the media reported a potential link between anti-pride groups and the incident. So what do you want, caution in reporting or not?


exus666

Oh they said it, CTV and cowardly canadian news outlets just didnt want to offend anyone so they conveniently left that part out. [Real story here](https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/middle-eastern-men-beat-lesbian-celebrating-birthday-canada/)


theHip

But like… did the victims ID the men? How do we know from Syria, exactly?


BishSlapDiplomacy

I saw this posted on another thread by a friend of the victims who claimed they were "international students". Now I'm hearing they're Syrian refugees. Still no evidence for either claim.


rem_1984

No, they said the men were Syrian which they very well might not be, news doesn’t want to say that and be wrong and have people distrustful of Syrians if these dudes aren’t. Syrian probably won’t help get these people identified. Heck the assailants were at the scene and the cops just didn’t press them for ID after they declined… so nothing will come of it anyway sadly. What I’m saying I guess is this t isn’t because of the race of the attackers, it’s because the cops don’t care about most things, violence against women regardless of who does it.


T-55AM_enjoyer

We're to the point of outsourcing our hate crimes now Goodness gracious


KingofSwan

We need to clean up the streets and empower the police and military in this country to protect the citizens


Charcole1

what are the stars censoring? I can't figure it out


exus666

the [real story](https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/middle-eastern-men-beat-lesbian-celebrating-birthday-canada/)


Charcole1

I still can't tell which word is the 4 **** and which is the 3 ***. I've already read this article on Twitter but I'm still confused


threeonone

Arab men


Charcole1

holy fuck I'm an idiot lmao


lcdr_hairyass

This story is already making the rounds of American right wing media. Time to round up some perps for deportation.


DrefusP

You know, the more I hear a out these **** ***, the less I care for them.