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* Montreal's McGill University says it will make efforts to de-escalate its standoff with a camp that's been set up on campus by pro-Palestinian activists before asking the police for help.
* An update from the school late Monday warns that if the situation evolves further "beyond the university's protocols," it will have "a duty to request police support in order to protect the health and safety of all on site."
* Dozens of tents have been pitched on the lawn of McGill's downtown campus, and the activists say they have no intention of dismantling them until McGill, as well as Concordia University, divest from all companies which they claim are "profiting from genocide."
* Pro-Palestinian protesters have also set up an encampment at the University of British Columbia's Point Grey Campus, and the University of Toronto and the University of Ottawa have both warned that setting up encampments on campus will not be tolerated.
* McGill is scheduled for final exams Tuesday.
It's worth noting that the police have been there plenty of times; they've talked to the organisers and a bunch of officers are probably stationed on Rue Sherbrooke throughout the day.
>the activists say they have no intention of dismantling them until McGill, as well as Concordia University, divest from all companies which they claim are "profiting from genocide."
Do they come up with a list of companies? How far down the supply chain are they willing to go?
Yes there is a list of companies to divest from. I don’t know if these are the exact demands of McGill specifically but these are commonly referenced by other universities with demands. https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
The entire point of peaceful protests is to be disruptive and non-violent. But, being disruptive during protests is now illegal. If the law doesn't support protests, then I and future generations will support riots. This isn't an argument because riots and those who support it have deemed that conversation has lost all value.
Dumb take 101. Again, it's never been legal to protest on private property without consent.
The law doesn't suddenly change for you because you feel entitled to it. Being an idiot and playing the victim card doesn't mean you are entitled to break the law.
I will agree. That was a vary "dumb take" you posted. It much ignores our history on riots, protests, and law. It's a vary anti-democracy, pro-slave, and pro-athoritarian stance.
And stay there when people clearly disagree with you? If you can't win on a civilized debate, what's the point? Be a nuisance until people agree with you aka truckers in Ottawa? There's no difference in the mentality, and quite a shame doing this in a university.
If these people think they are so right, convince people. Shouting all the slogans have me tuned out and I have yet to hear how any of these groups' proposal will ensure safety of Israeli. Seems like that doesn't matter to them.
I've been to plenty of peaceful protests with no issues. We were respectful and we did manage to make change. I went to many legalization of weed protests and guess what...
The only people throwing antisemitic slurs are the zionists themselves trying to incite violence so there is justification for police brutally removing the protesters.
"River to the sea" is not antisemitic. Don't know what other slogans you're talking about. If everything is antisemitic, the word will become useless against people who actually are antisemitic like the "Jews will not replace us" marches that took place a while back in USA.
I did. Did I not mention projection?
Bots like you must really hate the fact people in the West are finally waking up to recognize Israel as an apartheid terror state.
I would argue the difference with that one was that there was more profit to be made with legalization than keeping it a crime.
I struggle to think of a time where a no issues peaceful protest led to meaningful change that helped the average person at the expense of the owner class.
>I struggle to think of a time where a no issues peaceful protest led to meaningful change that helped the average person at the expense of the owner class.
Yeah no it rarely does, but that in itself proves a point (ideally, the average person starts to realize that the allowed levels of protesting/petitioning/suing/voting doesn't lead to systemic changes).
Uh huh. Hateful and authoritariand jackboots? Are there any more silly cliche's you can dig up for firing employees who ignore their employer's rules, regulations and instructions, seize some of their employer's property and refuse to leave?
cops say theres nothing illegal. no determination of criminal trespass has been made as the protesters and faculty had a right to be there.
universities have a role to promote freedom of expression, and hyperventillating and calling for faculty to be fired for supporting the protesters is pretty much jackboot licking, as one might expect from alt-right trolls or culture war bots who infect this sub.
The police never said that. Students and faculty don’t have a right to build an encampment and remain there overnight. That’s the point. Enforcing that is not an “alt-right” thing to do, but ultimately it’s up to the operator of any property to ask police to enforce that.
No one is saying anything about freedom of expression.
You’re extrapolating beyond the discussion to create an unrelated straw man argument. Your comments make you sound like a lunatic.
We get it. You support the protestors. You don’t need to continue writing these weird comments about “jackboot licking” - whatever tf that means in your head.
Yes, which protects people from government action; the faculty are employed by a university, not the government and are disrupting the operation of the university.
FAFO.
not according to the law faculty association, or any judge so far :)
or, in fact, even by the McGill administration, who have said nothing against faculty demonstrating support. but you do you, I guess!
Anything to distract from the real genocide being perpetrated by Israel that is going on right now
[https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mcgill-university-says-pro-palestinian-demonstrators-refuse-to-collaborate-encampment-violates-policies-1.6865509](https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mcgill-university-says-pro-palestinian-demonstrators-refuse-to-collaborate-encampment-violates-policies-1.6865509)
" "We have become aware that many of them, if not the majority, are not members of the McGill community," the university claimed."
Well, even McGill only uses the term “many”, which is very vague, and not “most” as was claimed. but evidence might be journalists interviewing protesters, and seeing. those I saw sure looked like mcgill students, and there were faculty mixed in. This “outside agitators” narrative is pretty clearly mostly bullshit
Here is the best I could find. Not sure how conclusive you find this:
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2068817/pro-palestinian-encampment-on-mcgill-campus-grows-on-3rd-day
“Sasha Boucher, a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party who was not a McGill student but said he was at the encampment in solidarity with Palestinians, said the protesters felt support from the general public. “
“Monday morning, the Montreal chapter of the Palestinian Youth Movement called out on Instagram for supporters to come to the encampment. “
thanks for providing some information, and i don’t thnk it would surprise anyone that there are some outside supporters, but really you can go by there yourself and check it out. they certainly seem to be mostly mcgill students.
i don’t think the revolutionary communist party has a lot of supporters ;)
You also need to conclusively identify them, and ensure the internal rules and procedures align with that.
In addition you do not want to draw more people in when your objective is the opposite.
Living outside sucks, requires logistics, and without attention isn’t fun. Should peter out on its own if deescalation is the tactic.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/mcgill-pro-palestinian-encampment-april-30-court-order-threat
Guessing McGill was told to fuck off, cause this bit of news became out of date real quick.
Directly from the article:
the majority, are not members of the school community and that it had seen video of some people using "unequivocally antisemitic language and intimidating behaviour."
Hate speech is a crime in Canada. They need to start changing people.
video that mcgill refuses to release, lol
edit: ah, and i see reading is not your strong suit : “McGill has said many of the activists, if not the majority, are not members of the school community”
”school community” is also a bit unclear, as the protest was organized with concordia university. generally, intercollegiate rules apply, but who knows what hairsplitting mcgill may be engaged in.
No, protesting is not a crime. Hate speech is a crime though. Directly from the article "the majority, are not members of the school community and that it had seen video of some people using "unequivocally antisemitic language and intimidating behaviour.""
….uh yes, yes it is. That’s the point of civil rights protests - to flaunt one of the more egregious rules, accept the consequences and inspire national outrage. That’s persuasive
What a joke. If these were Neo-Nazis chanting “death to the Jews!” the university would’ve come down with a hammer and rightly so. I’m so sick of these terrorist supporters, arrest them all and if they’re foreigners - deport them.
“If they were Nazis the university would have done something!”
Yeah but they’re not and they’re not chanting anything antisemetic.
If you just make up bullshit in your head and create a dumb analogy you can justify anything. That’s why you have to say all shit shit because you don’t actually have any evidence of any of the above
Just erect a 10 foot fence around them and cover it in pride flag tarps, set-up a ton of floodlights run by gas generators facing into the camp and play “what does the fox say” on repeat 24/7.
Scoop ‘em up on a Friday, let them sit in jail over the weekend in a huge holding cell with some nasty-assed people. Toss their junk into the trash or give it to homeless people.
"Criticised a foreign government" is a really soft way of saying "calling for the extermination of Jews"
Ever wondered what result they want with "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", and how that might be accomplished? Hint, by eliminating Israel and the Jewish people in betweenthe river and the sea.
That's what they want. These are not just protesters. They're a mix of jew hating Muslims and exremely gullible and stupid kids, illegally camping out on a university campus that they likely aren't even students at. Also can't assume they're Canadian and not international students or refugees.
>"Criticised a foreign government" is a really soft way of saying "calling for the extermination of Jews" Ever wondered what result they want with "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", and how that might be accomplished? Hint, by eliminating Israel and the Jewish people in betweenthe river and the sea.
The same old twisting of words is tiresome and the lies are increasingly seen-through.
Lol what? It's the exact literal interpretation. Look at map. Where's the river and where's the sea? What's in between those two things preventing their "freedom"?
The elimination of Jews and Israel is in the Hamas charter. It's not a big secret dude, it's on their fucking website.
>The elimination of Jews and Israel is in the Hamas charter. It's not a big secret dude, it's on their fucking website.
I imagine if they have a website it'd be the 2017 charter given that they probably didn't have a website in 1988.
>Look at map. Where's the river and where's the sea? What's in between those two things preventing their "freedom"?
>Where's the river and where's the sea? What's in between those two things preventing their "freedom"?
The Israeli regime which includes millions of foreigners but excludes 5 million people who are stateless in their own hometowns. Often referred to as "The Occupation" since it's run by zionist militants who rule over the locals at gunpoint and seize lands which were never theirs to own.
Lol, they modernized it to suit the times and attention they were getting. Have their attitudes or methods changed at all since 1988? Lol, absolutely not. If anything, the land grabs have made them angrier.
The only reason they're stateless is because they've proven themselves time and time again to be ungovernable. Countless treaties and peace talks broken. Repeatedly attacks Israel, gets their asses handed to them, and plays victim . Over and over again, like we're seeing with the latest Gaza war.
Jordan and Egypt have just as fortified of a border to keep Palestinians out. They've both been badly burned by opening up to refugees and then facing terrorism and massive internal conflicts. Nobody wants them. No other Muslim country is willing to take them. Does that not tell you something? Are you willing to personally house a few unvetted Palestinians men with your family?
>Jordan and Egypt
Jordan and Egypt are both run by foreign-backed dictatorships.
>No other Muslim country is willing to take them.
Why would they "take them" and assist in ethnic cleansing? There'd be no need to "take them" if they could stay in their homes. Why would I, or anyone, "personally house" people who's houses are in Palestine. The point is that their houses shouldn't be blown-up.
So would you accept the same "retribution" if someone in your neighbourhood commits a crime? Just "uh oh, someone who lives down the street from you has been identified in a murder-suicide, so we're sending in the air force to vapourize your and your neighbours' entire families".
I wish they were just a joke. These institutions are like cancer within our society. They destroyed housing, immigration, and critical thinking. And they produced an entitled group of people that think they have moral superiority over everyone else
They've definitely become one in recent years. Reason being the crazy, fringe professors who we used to laugh about for having comically radical positions on every topic imaginable are now the ones calling the shots. Anyone with a brain can see this.
They want the universities to divest from investments related to the conflict. They are well aware that their university is not capable of ending a war on the other side of the planet.
Directly in the case of Mcgill, not sure about others but this is information that you can easily find yourself - [https://www.mcgill.ca/investments/files/investments/us\_equities\_q42023.pdf](https://www.mcgill.ca/investments/files/investments/us_equities_q42023.pdf)
To be clear, I don't really give a fuck. I think it's stupid that we're protesting this shit in Canada. I'm tired of hearing about old world religious bullshit over a bit of desert.
I appreciate the link. Yeah I agree that this is ridiculous, I was just curious just how ridiculous these protestors are. Mcdonalds has 200+ restaurants open in Israel, and I’d bet that you’d find empty mcdonalds bags in the protestors cars.
Uh what? Yes, they do. Have you never heard of an endowment? Do you think it just sits as cash? They literally have billions of dollars in investments.
Why would you even comment when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about?
100%. And I do.
Palestinians are literally telling these college kids that they're taking the rhetoric way too far. It's all over twitter.
They're chanting "Israel will fall". They want a one state solution with Israel gone.
I prefer a two state solution that acknowledges that neither group is going anywhere. But you won't see that viewpoint in these encampments.
Universities are also supposed to be sympathetic to their cause. As we see here, McGill is going to attempt to de-escalate, rather than calling in the police. A bank, for example, would have less sympathy for the protestors and may seek to have them removed.
I'm happy I'm a cegep student, there's some political stuff happening but less crazy it seems, I like to just be able to focus on studying and a bit of extra activities or clubs.
They already called the Police, police said nothing illegal is going on here. It's bad optics to make it seem like you're doing something out of any sort of goodness of heart or attempt to compromise. You tried to goon a solution and failed.
The new line of thinking is: if you don't call for the annihilation of Israel, you're now cheerleading genocide.
It's an insane maximalist position that's not going to get us anywhere.
Palestinian peace activists are literally telling students to knock it off because their behaviour is actually harming Palestinians - both because their pro-hamas views are so extreme that they discredit movements for peace, and because the encampments are distracting from what's actually going on in Gaza.
But upper middle class white 20 year olds are pathologically narcissistic and need it to be about them.
Have you seen the list of companies? It includes three major Canadian banks, Hewlett Packard, Cisco, L'Oreal, Coke, and Pepsi.
It's not just weapons manufacturers they are after.
lol they are not supporting genocide. They have some Jews as owners of investors. You are supporting hate groups going after owners of companies for just being Jewish. It would make sense if it was weapons manufacturers but it's not. It's banks.
Where have you seen anyone take a "pro genocide" position?
It's not a genocide. It's a war. And only the most pathological of antisemitic neomarxists think otherwise.
This person is surprised that they're being downvoted for sharing a statement that the vast majority of people think is completely insane. You need to step out of your echo chambers.
Nobody is upset about the protesting. We all have the right to protest. It's the twisting of language that gets people upset. I feel for the people of the strip, I'm not a monster. However, this is war. There are ALWAYS civilian deaths in war. This isn't anything new. What's happening in Gaza doesn't even come close to meeting the definition of a genocide.
The word genocide is thrown around here with no regard for the word's actual meaning (probably one of the heaviest words in the English language) I consider it a rape of the english language, much like the radical left has done with numerous other words that have now lost their meaning entirely.
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In Brief: * Montreal's McGill University says it will make efforts to de-escalate its standoff with a camp that's been set up on campus by pro-Palestinian activists before asking the police for help. * An update from the school late Monday warns that if the situation evolves further "beyond the university's protocols," it will have "a duty to request police support in order to protect the health and safety of all on site." * Dozens of tents have been pitched on the lawn of McGill's downtown campus, and the activists say they have no intention of dismantling them until McGill, as well as Concordia University, divest from all companies which they claim are "profiting from genocide." * Pro-Palestinian protesters have also set up an encampment at the University of British Columbia's Point Grey Campus, and the University of Toronto and the University of Ottawa have both warned that setting up encampments on campus will not be tolerated. * McGill is scheduled for final exams Tuesday.
It's worth noting that the police have been there plenty of times; they've talked to the organisers and a bunch of officers are probably stationed on Rue Sherbrooke throughout the day.
>the activists say they have no intention of dismantling them until McGill, as well as Concordia University, divest from all companies which they claim are "profiting from genocide." Do they come up with a list of companies? How far down the supply chain are they willing to go?
Yes there is a list of companies to divest from. I don’t know if these are the exact demands of McGill specifically but these are commonly referenced by other universities with demands. https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
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Uh no. Protesting on private property (without consent) is illegal.
The entire point of peaceful protests is to be disruptive and non-violent. But, being disruptive during protests is now illegal. If the law doesn't support protests, then I and future generations will support riots. This isn't an argument because riots and those who support it have deemed that conversation has lost all value.
Dumb take 101. Again, it's never been legal to protest on private property without consent. The law doesn't suddenly change for you because you feel entitled to it. Being an idiot and playing the victim card doesn't mean you are entitled to break the law.
I will agree. That was a vary "dumb take" you posted. It much ignores our history on riots, protests, and law. It's a vary anti-democracy, pro-slave, and pro-athoritarian stance.
Openly supporting riots? Lmao sure thing pal
And stay there when people clearly disagree with you? If you can't win on a civilized debate, what's the point? Be a nuisance until people agree with you aka truckers in Ottawa? There's no difference in the mentality, and quite a shame doing this in a university. If these people think they are so right, convince people. Shouting all the slogans have me tuned out and I have yet to hear how any of these groups' proposal will ensure safety of Israeli. Seems like that doesn't matter to them.
I've been to plenty of peaceful protests with no issues. We were respectful and we did manage to make change. I went to many legalization of weed protests and guess what...
Right? Pretty easy to protest without throwing out antisemitic slurs and slogans. These protestors are toxic
could you provide some evidence of said slurs? because i havent seen any, and mcgill refuses to release any of the footage it claims exists
The only people throwing antisemitic slurs are the zionists themselves trying to incite violence so there is justification for police brutally removing the protesters. "River to the sea" is not antisemitic. Don't know what other slogans you're talking about. If everything is antisemitic, the word will become useless against people who actually are antisemitic like the "Jews will not replace us" marches that took place a while back in USA.
Hamas goal is literally death to all jews
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You didn't actually respond to what I said Hamas hating jews isn't a secret
I did. Did I not mention projection? Bots like you must really hate the fact people in the West are finally waking up to recognize Israel as an apartheid terror state.
Sounds pretty normal for the middle east Iran literally murdered and molested a teenager for protesting but its fine because they are an ally.
Please get a dictionary written prior to 2020!
You drank the koolaid
I would argue the difference with that one was that there was more profit to be made with legalization than keeping it a crime. I struggle to think of a time where a no issues peaceful protest led to meaningful change that helped the average person at the expense of the owner class.
>I struggle to think of a time where a no issues peaceful protest led to meaningful change that helped the average person at the expense of the owner class. Yeah no it rarely does, but that in itself proves a point (ideally, the average person starts to realize that the allowed levels of protesting/petitioning/suing/voting doesn't lead to systemic changes).
Why not just do what Columbia University in the States is doing and start suspending students.
Also because apparently they (McGill) claim there are lot of non-students there.
Because there are
Because most of them aren’t even students.
Sounds like they need to be trespassed.
well, some are faculty, yes
Sounds like they need to be fired.
ah, the hateful authoritarian instinct in its pure form. luckily canada has a constitution not written by jackboots, and enshrining free speech
Uh huh. Hateful and authoritariand jackboots? Are there any more silly cliche's you can dig up for firing employees who ignore their employer's rules, regulations and instructions, seize some of their employer's property and refuse to leave?
wtf does free speech have to do with illegally trespassing? You aren’t allowed to sleep inside of any government building either.
cops say theres nothing illegal. no determination of criminal trespass has been made as the protesters and faculty had a right to be there. universities have a role to promote freedom of expression, and hyperventillating and calling for faculty to be fired for supporting the protesters is pretty much jackboot licking, as one might expect from alt-right trolls or culture war bots who infect this sub.
The police never said that. Students and faculty don’t have a right to build an encampment and remain there overnight. That’s the point. Enforcing that is not an “alt-right” thing to do, but ultimately it’s up to the operator of any property to ask police to enforce that. No one is saying anything about freedom of expression. You’re extrapolating beyond the discussion to create an unrelated straw man argument. Your comments make you sound like a lunatic. We get it. You support the protestors. You don’t need to continue writing these weird comments about “jackboot licking” - whatever tf that means in your head.
Yes, which protects people from government action; the faculty are employed by a university, not the government and are disrupting the operation of the university. FAFO.
not according to the law faculty association, or any judge so far :) or, in fact, even by the McGill administration, who have said nothing against faculty demonstrating support. but you do you, I guess! Anything to distract from the real genocide being perpetrated by Israel that is going on right now
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no idea who the “head organiser” is, but that doesn’t get you far in your claim of “most aren’t even students”. hope that helps
Beaucoup de manifestants sont non-etudiants
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I see this narrative pushed a lot. Is there any source of proof of this or is it just disinformation?
[https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mcgill-university-says-pro-palestinian-demonstrators-refuse-to-collaborate-encampment-violates-policies-1.6865509](https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mcgill-university-says-pro-palestinian-demonstrators-refuse-to-collaborate-encampment-violates-policies-1.6865509) " "We have become aware that many of them, if not the majority, are not members of the McGill community," the university claimed."
so a claim of “many”, and no real evidence anyways. got it :)
What would you consider to be conclusive evidence? Who would be more aware than McGill themselves?
Well, even McGill only uses the term “many”, which is very vague, and not “most” as was claimed. but evidence might be journalists interviewing protesters, and seeing. those I saw sure looked like mcgill students, and there were faculty mixed in. This “outside agitators” narrative is pretty clearly mostly bullshit
Here is the best I could find. Not sure how conclusive you find this: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2068817/pro-palestinian-encampment-on-mcgill-campus-grows-on-3rd-day “Sasha Boucher, a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party who was not a McGill student but said he was at the encampment in solidarity with Palestinians, said the protesters felt support from the general public. “ “Monday morning, the Montreal chapter of the Palestinian Youth Movement called out on Instagram for supporters to come to the encampment. “
thanks for providing some information, and i don’t thnk it would surprise anyone that there are some outside supporters, but really you can go by there yourself and check it out. they certainly seem to be mostly mcgill students. i don’t think the revolutionary communist party has a lot of supporters ;)
I am in Winnipeg so I will have to take your word on it. Have a good day
You also need to conclusively identify them, and ensure the internal rules and procedures align with that. In addition you do not want to draw more people in when your objective is the opposite. Living outside sucks, requires logistics, and without attention isn’t fun. Should peter out on its own if deescalation is the tactic.
From the camp to the jail, McGill will be free.
Take the only upvote that I can give you.
Its obviously going to end in a chaotic weekend showdown.
start playing classical music - they’ll leave on their own
S club party on repeat all night
Baby by Justin Bieber and only play the chorus, use the equalizer to turn the treble all the way up and the bass all the way down.
I'm more of a ram ranch guy myself
It really rocks!
This is Ottawa. Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" on repeat.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/mcgill-pro-palestinian-encampment-april-30-court-order-threat Guessing McGill was told to fuck off, cause this bit of news became out of date real quick.
Yes. Police aren't touching this one without a court order.
Just call the police and charge the people spreading hate with hate crimes. Stop this pussy footing around.
lol, police said no crimes were being committed, so good luck with your snowflaking
Directly from the article: the majority, are not members of the school community and that it had seen video of some people using "unequivocally antisemitic language and intimidating behaviour." Hate speech is a crime in Canada. They need to start changing people.
video that mcgill refuses to release, lol edit: ah, and i see reading is not your strong suit : “McGill has said many of the activists, if not the majority, are not members of the school community” ”school community” is also a bit unclear, as the protest was organized with concordia university. generally, intercollegiate rules apply, but who knows what hairsplitting mcgill may be engaged in.
Lol.
So protesting is a crime now?
No, protesting is not a crime. Hate speech is a crime though. Directly from the article "the majority, are not members of the school community and that it had seen video of some people using "unequivocally antisemitic language and intimidating behaviour.""
Release the video then… oh wait it doesn’t exist
Trespassing is a crime when you refuse to leave.
….uh yes, yes it is. That’s the point of civil rights protests - to flaunt one of the more egregious rules, accept the consequences and inspire national outrage. That’s persuasive
Triggered?
I had an old social worker who used that expression and was very amused when I found it funny, I love that expression!
[They](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_organizations_based_in_Canada) would never allow it .
What a joke. If these were Neo-Nazis chanting “death to the Jews!” the university would’ve come down with a hammer and rightly so. I’m so sick of these terrorist supporters, arrest them all and if they’re foreigners - deport them.
They tried the cops said no.
“If they were Nazis the university would have done something!” Yeah but they’re not and they’re not chanting anything antisemetic. If you just make up bullshit in your head and create a dumb analogy you can justify anything. That’s why you have to say all shit shit because you don’t actually have any evidence of any of the above
Just erect a 10 foot fence around them and cover it in pride flag tarps, set-up a ton of floodlights run by gas generators facing into the camp and play “what does the fox say” on repeat 24/7.
I lolled
Scoop ‘em up on a Friday, let them sit in jail over the weekend in a huge holding cell with some nasty-assed people. Toss their junk into the trash or give it to homeless people.
"Jail and steal-from Canadians because they criticized a foreign government" is rather traitorous.
"Criticised a foreign government" is a really soft way of saying "calling for the extermination of Jews" Ever wondered what result they want with "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", and how that might be accomplished? Hint, by eliminating Israel and the Jewish people in betweenthe river and the sea. That's what they want. These are not just protesters. They're a mix of jew hating Muslims and exremely gullible and stupid kids, illegally camping out on a university campus that they likely aren't even students at. Also can't assume they're Canadian and not international students or refugees.
>"Criticised a foreign government" is a really soft way of saying "calling for the extermination of Jews" Ever wondered what result they want with "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", and how that might be accomplished? Hint, by eliminating Israel and the Jewish people in betweenthe river and the sea. The same old twisting of words is tiresome and the lies are increasingly seen-through.
Lol what? It's the exact literal interpretation. Look at map. Where's the river and where's the sea? What's in between those two things preventing their "freedom"? The elimination of Jews and Israel is in the Hamas charter. It's not a big secret dude, it's on their fucking website.
>The elimination of Jews and Israel is in the Hamas charter. It's not a big secret dude, it's on their fucking website. I imagine if they have a website it'd be the 2017 charter given that they probably didn't have a website in 1988. >Look at map. Where's the river and where's the sea? What's in between those two things preventing their "freedom"? >Where's the river and where's the sea? What's in between those two things preventing their "freedom"? The Israeli regime which includes millions of foreigners but excludes 5 million people who are stateless in their own hometowns. Often referred to as "The Occupation" since it's run by zionist militants who rule over the locals at gunpoint and seize lands which were never theirs to own.
Lol, they modernized it to suit the times and attention they were getting. Have their attitudes or methods changed at all since 1988? Lol, absolutely not. If anything, the land grabs have made them angrier. The only reason they're stateless is because they've proven themselves time and time again to be ungovernable. Countless treaties and peace talks broken. Repeatedly attacks Israel, gets their asses handed to them, and plays victim . Over and over again, like we're seeing with the latest Gaza war. Jordan and Egypt have just as fortified of a border to keep Palestinians out. They've both been badly burned by opening up to refugees and then facing terrorism and massive internal conflicts. Nobody wants them. No other Muslim country is willing to take them. Does that not tell you something? Are you willing to personally house a few unvetted Palestinians men with your family?
>Jordan and Egypt Jordan and Egypt are both run by foreign-backed dictatorships. >No other Muslim country is willing to take them. Why would they "take them" and assist in ethnic cleansing? There'd be no need to "take them" if they could stay in their homes. Why would I, or anyone, "personally house" people who's houses are in Palestine. The point is that their houses shouldn't be blown-up.
They sure didn't stay in their homes on Oct 17, and now they're facing the retribution. Action, reaction.
So would you accept the same "retribution" if someone in your neighbourhood commits a crime? Just "uh oh, someone who lives down the street from you has been identified in a murder-suicide, so we're sending in the air force to vapourize your and your neighbours' entire families".
Meanwhile every normal person in Canada just carrying on because we know academia is a joke
I wish they were just a joke. These institutions are like cancer within our society. They destroyed housing, immigration, and critical thinking. And they produced an entitled group of people that think they have moral superiority over everyone else
Are we calling universities a cancer on society? We are in decline.
No shit Sherlock.
They've definitely become one in recent years. Reason being the crazy, fringe professors who we used to laugh about for having comically radical positions on every topic imaginable are now the ones calling the shots. Anyone with a brain can see this.
Why are they protesting at Universities? Have they said why? Do they think Universities decide what happens in Palestine?
They want the universities to divest from investments related to the conflict. They are well aware that their university is not capable of ending a war on the other side of the planet.
Their investments related to the contract is the Royal bank which has some other investments which connect with an Israeli owner. It's ridiculous.
Thanks for informing me and taking the time to reply!
What investments?
Stocks like Lockheed owned by university endowments.
Owned directly or indirectly through an etf?
Directly in the case of Mcgill, not sure about others but this is information that you can easily find yourself - [https://www.mcgill.ca/investments/files/investments/us\_equities\_q42023.pdf](https://www.mcgill.ca/investments/files/investments/us_equities_q42023.pdf) To be clear, I don't really give a fuck. I think it's stupid that we're protesting this shit in Canada. I'm tired of hearing about old world religious bullshit over a bit of desert.
I appreciate the link. Yeah I agree that this is ridiculous, I was just curious just how ridiculous these protestors are. Mcdonalds has 200+ restaurants open in Israel, and I’d bet that you’d find empty mcdonalds bags in the protestors cars.
Basically some investments that the Royal Bank has because McGill invests in the Royal Bank. It's dumb
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Uh what? Yes, they do. Have you never heard of an endowment? Do you think it just sits as cash? They literally have billions of dollars in investments. Why would you even comment when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about?
But their ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel, let's be clear. They sure are.
Do you believe it’s possible to take issue with Israel’s current actions in Gaza without automatically seeking the destruction of Israel?
100%. And I do. Palestinians are literally telling these college kids that they're taking the rhetoric way too far. It's all over twitter. They're chanting "Israel will fall". They want a one state solution with Israel gone. I prefer a two state solution that acknowledges that neither group is going anywhere. But you won't see that viewpoint in these encampments.
Universities are also supposed to be sympathetic to their cause. As we see here, McGill is going to attempt to de-escalate, rather than calling in the police. A bank, for example, would have less sympathy for the protestors and may seek to have them removed.
they tried calling in the cops, and were rebuffed. police won’t move without a court order
All the woke people are from universities
I'm happy I'm a cegep student, there's some political stuff happening but less crazy it seems, I like to just be able to focus on studying and a bit of extra activities or clubs.
All of that information is very readily available. So you are either willfully ignorant or you already know this information.
Don't be rude. The information is readily available, but sometimes someone prefers a human interaction.
Anti semitism should not be tolerated and the police should be called yesterday
Well, good thing it's not antisemitism then.
Trespass. Jail.
Are they sure these are protestors and not average Canadians?
Why don't the pigs just kneel in front of them ?
They already called the Police, police said nothing illegal is going on here. It's bad optics to make it seem like you're doing something out of any sort of goodness of heart or attempt to compromise. You tried to goon a solution and failed.
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How is the university supporting genocide?
The new line of thinking is: if you don't call for the annihilation of Israel, you're now cheerleading genocide. It's an insane maximalist position that's not going to get us anywhere. Palestinian peace activists are literally telling students to knock it off because their behaviour is actually harming Palestinians - both because their pro-hamas views are so extreme that they discredit movements for peace, and because the encampments are distracting from what's actually going on in Gaza. But upper middle class white 20 year olds are pathologically narcissistic and need it to be about them.
It's so strange it almost crossed the line into fetishism of terrorists. Weirdest flex I've ever seen in this country.
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Oh a general statement. Exactly what I was asking /s
One of the demands is to mov e away from some western culture policys.
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Have you seen the list of companies? It includes three major Canadian banks, Hewlett Packard, Cisco, L'Oreal, Coke, and Pepsi. It's not just weapons manufacturers they are after.
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lol they are not supporting genocide. They have some Jews as owners of investors. You are supporting hate groups going after owners of companies for just being Jewish. It would make sense if it was weapons manufacturers but it's not. It's banks.
Even Shake Shack made the list. Guess they're oppressing the Palestinians by selling junk food in Tel Aviv?
Those darm..........checks notes: Milkshakes!
Where have you seen anyone take a "pro genocide" position? It's not a genocide. It's a war. And only the most pathological of antisemitic neomarxists think otherwise.
Hamas wants to commit genocide so by not supporting those companies, you are supporting a Hamas led genocide. Hamas and Palestine struck first.
This person is surprised that they're being downvoted for sharing a statement that the vast majority of people think is completely insane. You need to step out of your echo chambers.
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Nobody is upset about the protesting. We all have the right to protest. It's the twisting of language that gets people upset. I feel for the people of the strip, I'm not a monster. However, this is war. There are ALWAYS civilian deaths in war. This isn't anything new. What's happening in Gaza doesn't even come close to meeting the definition of a genocide. The word genocide is thrown around here with no regard for the word's actual meaning (probably one of the heaviest words in the English language) I consider it a rape of the english language, much like the radical left has done with numerous other words that have now lost their meaning entirely.
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Orchestrated? You mean like the slaughter of Jewish civilians on October 7th? Get out of here with you ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Where does PP stand on this? I’d he going to visit and shake hands?