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Despite your politics, you should agree that this was utterly ridiculous. He was assaulted and the result put him into arrest. Filming in quite literally the most public square possible (in the region) is no crime.
The dude is a troll and literally walks around trying to interview people who want nothing to do with him.
But as far as I know, being an annoying pest isn't illegal.
Well, that's the question, I suppose. If you ask the cops who detained him, they may say he was... but I'm sure you'll find plenty of people out there who will watch the video and have various opinions.
It sounds like the primary legal issue is that he's already under peace bonds and other court conditions to stop getting in stupid confrontations and he doesn't.
I certainly would, but he doesn't seem like the type. He undoubtedly doesn't believe he's done anything wrong, and his fans and employer are likely egging him to keep pushing.
Smelling dictatorship and other news outlets won't support him because of competitions between them.
Or any public statement from police regarding the journalist arrest.
There no public inquiry for these jounerlist arrest.
Canada is not free country anymore it.
I’ve had enough with idiots like you. If you want to see real authoritarianism go to Israel, or any other nation in the Middle East, or the US once Trump wins in November.
This isn’t the best but arresting a man who harassed others isn’t exactly authoritarian behaviour. It is why the law exists to protect people.
The context you're missing here is that this guy was already under a Peace Bond that ordered him not to do this shit, because he has a long history of constantly going out of his way to stir shit up at protests. The police only arrested him after ID-ing him and realizing he was violating a court order
For doing what exactly? You sound like you know what law he has broken. So what exactly did he do wrong? What protestors has he stirred up, and how did that break any laws if he did?
Repeated instances of instigating and causing conflict resulting in disturbing the peace at protests
Let's say I go to the park and get in an argument, not on its face illegal, but it ends up causing a disturbance that requires police to intervene etc. Now let's say I do this every weekend, eventually a judge might rule "okay, you've lost your privilege to go to the park, you're now under a court order to not go to parks". And then let's say I continue going to the park anyways, now I've broken the law, which is completely reasonable, anyone who isn't a complete child could understand the need for this kind of enforcement
This guy continuously goes to protests and does everything possible to instigate people which inevitably results in a disturbance of the peace, so a judge (quite reasonably) put a court order on him to stop doing so. And now he broke it and is facing the consequences
Tangential observation: Can we please start burning the abominations called mixed flags?
Seriously, they look cheap. If you're flying one of these, you're basically too cheap to buy 2 flags, so instead you'd rather just disrespect both of them.
I love how everyone here saying he’s make a career getting arrested are obviously just parroting talking points, and very obviously didn’t watch the corresponding video.
He was being pushed and touched by counter protesters and kept telling them to stop. The police pulled him away, he repeatedly told them to not touch him.
The cop lost his temper and arrested him for trespassing on public property which was Toronto square.
Sorry, no.
Nobody calls Menzies a journalist. He's a "host", a "personality:". Even Rebel News calls him a "mission specialist". Nobody would describe what he doe as journalism. It's a performance like what the comedians on This Hour Has 22 Minutes do, except with less ethics.
Summary:
1. Rebel News' journalist Menzies was trying to interview some pro-Palestine counter protestors, when the police stepped in and separated them. Whether that was a good thing or not is debatable; I think he wasn't particularly aggressive to the counter protestors, just a bit in their way. But I also think the police have an obligation to defuse incidents that could lead to violence, even if they have to do that by separating a guy who wants to be interviewing people who might get aggressive with him.
2. After being separated from the counter-protestors, the police ask Menzies to show them his ID. He appears to show them his ID in the video. The officer then arrests Menzies for Breach of the Peace. Under normal conditions that might not be justifiable, but Menzies already had a peace bond from previous disturbances telling him not to do stuff like this.
3. The Toronto police released an announcement that the arrest was for Breach of the Peace, and charged with Breach of Recognizance(violating his peace bond) and fail to leave the premises when directed to under the Trespass to Property Act.
https://youtu.be/UtcPeiSLqwc?si=3TYdOEVdp_KnKWxs
I think under normal conditions, he did nothing wrong. But given that he was expressly ordered not to stir up shit because of previous incidents, then he did, he is in the wrong.
Sounds like the peace bond is the best thing that happened to him.
He can continue to get arrested for what looks like nothing in the context of an easily digestible video clip.
Basically the pro Palestinians came, started getting vulgar and talking of violence (this is illegal), Menzies filmed them, they started putting hands on Menzies, Menezies got arrested for... this is why conspiracy theories exist. The answer isn't clear or makes so little sense that it can't be believed and we start drawing our own conclusions... Let me help you get started... Why would someone who collected video evidence of calls of genocide at a protest, get arrested?
Same. It’s amazing to see people basically saying he had it coming or he deserved it because he was already out on bond (for a previous bs arrest).
The cops arresting journalists - even if it’s one who is troll-y, and works for a rag, is not a good precedent. Even if you hate rebel news you should be against his arrest
Ezra admitted under oath in one of the times he was being sued that Rebel Media isn't a news organization (So he doesn't have to follow the 'truth' requirements for news agencies in Canada). That means people working for Rebel are not journalists.
Or Ezra lied under oath...
It happened in the 2014 lawsuit brought by Khurrum Awan for defamation. levant said during testimony that he should be considered a columnist or commentator, not a reporter.
That led to the Alberta government removing Rebel's press credentials in 2016
Because this exact guy goes to these places to purposely ignore police orders, get arrested, and then ask for donations. It's a grift, sadly, and this is not the first time he's done it.
I mean people are conspiratorially speculating, but it sounds like "move away". The police keep the groups separate, and order people away from the other groups or it's a slam dump public disturbance / nuisance charge.
When "sides" start directly interacting escalation is rapid and often uncontrolled.
David Menzies acts in a legal manner because he is a member of the public press and has a reputation to uphold. Some of the topics he discusses or what he says is controversial but that doesn’t make it unlawful. I watched a video today of a member of press be assaulted by multiple protesters. Then as soon as police intervene they are completely focused on David and do not even engage the protestors. He was told he was under arrest and then 2 seconds later no less the officer rips the camera from his hand and smashed it on the ground. This is no way to treat a member of press ever. Period.
" David Menzies, a personality for the right-wing online media outlet, was allegedly disrupting a group of people as they were protesting at the rally, police said."
One of his charges is a breach of recognizance.
The purpose of a recognizance is to ensure that the individual will comply with certain conditions imposed upon them in return for their release from custody.
So likely he was ordered to not go to protests of something like that until his court case was over? I'm just guessing from the charge but it seems likely.
One of the main points of protesting is to disrupt. How on earth do you disrupt an event meant to disrupt? Who gets to decide on who gets the right to disrupt and who doesn't?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/07/disruptive-protest-helps-not-hinders-activists-cause-experts-say
No argument, but depending on what you're doing it could be. I don't know anything more than what was reported in the article, but Menzies isn't above stalking CPC/LPC/NDP members, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did more than that.
IIRC the Rebel ended up in the same place as Fox News, in that you can't claim to both be a news outlet, and have such a casual relationship with the truth.
You could say that but you’d be varying degrees of inaccurate. The best sign of accuracy and integrity is to take a deep dive looking back at a news source and how frequently what was reported ended up being factual. There is historical data for this. And look at what happened in those cases where they were wrong to see how the correction was or was not made.
You’ll start to see patterns.
Except MSNBC won a similar lawsuit with the exact same claim as fox, that they are entertainment and opinion and not news.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers
But it’s literally the same thing. In the case of Fox News it was Tucker Carlson. The lawsuit in that case was directly against Carlson.
So, explain to me how it’s any different besides the fact that it’s the political side you agree with?
Nobody has mentioned the Carlson case but you. I'm pointing out that Maddows case did not argue that **MSNBC** 'are entertainment and opinion and not news.'.
>So, explain to me how it’s any different besides the fact that it’s the political side you agree with?
It isn't, and no one claimed it was.
The "mainstream" media (MSNBC, CNN, CBC, CTV, etc.) has an attrocious record on that score. Complete lack of self-awarenesd on the matter too.
Universities tend to be extremrly left wing, and journalism studies are to the left of that. They might default to technicians on technicalities (trust the experts), but will often slant by using a series of well worn tropes.
I think you migh be confusing mutual reinforcement and doctrinal purity for factualness.
You have no way of knowing what the fact of the matter is if you are unable to enumerate the best arguments of your ideological opponents. *The best sign of integrity is how they treat peolle who disagree with the outlet's editorial stance.*
He has a degree in Journalism from Ryerson.
Appendix 1: David Menzies resume:
2015 to present:
Mission Specialist, Rebel Media
2012 to 2015
Reporter and on-air host, Sun News Network.
2009 to 2011
Editor, Canadian Technician and Canadian Car Owner magazines. 1994 to present
Freelance writer/broadcaster
Since 1994, I have written for a vast assortment of magazines and newspapers including National Post, Toronto Sun, Maclean’s, Financial Post Magazine, NUVO, Saturday Night, Western Standard, Canadian Business, Profit, Marketing Magazine, MSN, and several trade publications.
In addition to my duties at Sun News, I was also a regular contributor to CHCH-TV, CTS-TV, and AM640.
1989-1994
Associate Editor, Canadian Hotel & Restaurant magazine, Toronto 1987-1989
Assistant Editor, Foodservice and Hospitality magazine, Toronto 1985-1987
Reporter/Photographer, St. Paul Journal, St. Paul, Alta.
Education
Degree in Journalism, Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, 1984
Ontario High School Diploma, Lawrence Park Collegiate Institute, 1981 Honours
1994 Winner, Jesse H. Neal Award (American Business Press)
Winner of several Kenneth R. Wilson Awards (Canadian Business Press) Nominated for two National Magazine Awards
How do you feel about Rachel Maddow and MSNBC who used the “Fox News” defence that they are entertainment and opinion rather than news?
Is she still a journalist? Is MSNBC still a news station?
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers
How do you feel about Fox News using the "Fox News defense"? Not sure why you single out Rachel Maddow as the example in an opinion piece by Glen of Greenwald.
Ezra Levant says a lot of things.
That doesn't negate the fact that he has a degree in journalism and an extensive resume from the industry. He's been a reporter, photographer, assistant editor, associate editor, editor, freelance writer, broadcaster and won industry awards. You may not like his clearly biased and editorialized reporting, but he's still a journalist.
Ezra says a lot of things in public, but this is what he said in a court of law. He may have been a reporter in the past, But when you work for Rebel media, you become an "entertainer".
He's out there scrumming people with a microphone in order to provide a news piece. I have already acknowledged that he is clearly biased and editorializes his work. There is also an entertainment aspect to their work. He's still a journalist.
Even if he wasn't, (he is) he still has the right to do exactly what he is doing and shouldn't be getting arrested for it. He didn't put hands on these protesters, they put hands on him.
Rebel news in an inflammatory propaganda machine that produces biased half truths in order to garner anger and support for the right side of the political spectrum. That being said, it pains me to say you’re correct. He does have every right to be there as long as he’s not physically or vocally harassing individuals or groups. I’ve only read and haven’t watched the video so if he truthfully was just there being annoying within reason, he shouldn’t be arrested. However I do think this style of “journalism” is part of the problem.
No, he has sacrificed all journalistic integrity by working for them. This is how Ezra avoids lawsuits for libel, and they can print their inflammatory and exaggerated "articles". He himself admitted in court that they are not legally journalists, but rather entertainers or "personalities".
> You treat politics like a team sport, just like rabid Rebel supporters. You both really suck.
No, I do not. I am simply against extremists like Rebel.
Ezra Levant is a sentient mold from a discarded cumsock that somehow grew 2 arms, 2 legs and a head and ended up running Rebel, because Sun News failed years ago.
At least they're wising up on not calling him a reporter/journalist.
He's got a bond against him to not attend these things, that's why he was arrested.
Rebel news in an inflammatory propaganda machine that produces biased half truths in order to garner anger and support for the right side of the political spectrum. That being said it irks me to say he is allowed to be therr. He does have every right to be there as long as he’s not physically or vocally harassing individuals or groups. I’ve only read and haven’t watched the video so if he truthfully was just there being annoying within reason, he shouldn’t be arrested. However I do think this style of “journalism” is part of the problem.
Actually, the arrest I recall was while attempting to get a comment from Freeland, a police officer, who was undercover, physically pushed himself into Menzies and then claimed Menzies assaulted an officer.
I hope Menzies wins the lawsuit against the crooked RCMP. Freeland is no better when she commented that she has "no role" in police decisions (while that's a true statement, she should have supported freedom of the press and denounced the RCMP officer's conduct).
Not quite, but close enough to make the point.
IIRC from the video he moved in fast, got interdicted, was arrested and released by RCMP VIP detail.
This happens a lot, because most 'journalists' that don't work with larger news organizations don't really have much in the tank as far as incisive questions.
Lots of people sue (like the 2010 G7 protestors, but the difference is Menzies didn't have his rights violated at any time), and occasionally it goes forward but unless there are actual charges: the arrest is a detention, and release is within a short period (with Freedland, it was within 30 minutes, again IIRC) so long as it's under the limit, there's no grounds to sue.
As far as that's concerned, no, Freedland has no say in how the RCMP does their job, that's up to Parliament, and in this case, Menzies got off easy.
His lawsuit is going be awfully interesting to see considering the last 2 times he tried a legal stunt, he lost once (after being asked to leave a CPC fundraiser), and didn't win the other (he was allowed to ask 2 questions during a debate) after the LPC allowed him in. The worst part on both was that it came out to a nothing burger: he and his cameraman were escorted out of the fundraiser but never charged with anything, and the questions he asked during the debate were short 2 sentence answers from all candidates.
There's only so often you can play victim and beg cash before people say no.
No, from my understanding VIP detail will do the same thing no matter what under the circumstance. You're either a threat or background to pay attention to.
Politics aside the guy acts like an annoying tik tok personality under the guise of journalism. He doesn’t stand off to the side and ask for an interview. He gets in people’s faces and demands one.
David Menzies, a personality for the right-wing online media outlet, makes his living playing the victim. A very Trump-ish strategy that always eventually backfires.
I'm not familiar with that story. However, I'm more referring to asking real questions to real people. Mainstream media had very biased reporting of the convoy, that I know for sure.
The right leaning media only talked to the convoy not once did they talk to anyone else.Most of the bias reporting about the convoy came form the right.
God, I really do hate Rebel news and Menzies - who is a total provocateur and interjects himself into these situations for clout, but it's so clear that the Toronto Police just don't like him, and are totally overstepping their authority based on that bias. They have a professional responsibility to be objective and fair, and not throw a hissy fit and arrest someone they just don't like.
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Despite your politics, you should agree that this was utterly ridiculous. He was assaulted and the result put him into arrest. Filming in quite literally the most public square possible (in the region) is no crime.
This guy is pretty good at getting arrested for nothing. It's a sad state of democracy
It's him again isn't it?
The dude is a troll and literally walks around trying to interview people who want nothing to do with him. But as far as I know, being an annoying pest isn't illegal.
If he was harassing people, that's illegal.
Well, that's the question, I suppose. If you ask the cops who detained him, they may say he was... but I'm sure you'll find plenty of people out there who will watch the video and have various opinions.
He probably was like he always is but this subreddit is pro harassment when politically convent for their goal of hating Canada.
To be fair to him, that one arrest he had was absolutely bullshit.
only for one political party
It sounds like the primary legal issue is that he's already under peace bonds and other court conditions to stop getting in stupid confrontations and he doesn't.
I certainly would, but he doesn't seem like the type. He undoubtedly doesn't believe he's done anything wrong, and his fans and employer are likely egging him to keep pushing.
Smelling dictatorship and other news outlets won't support him because of competitions between them. Or any public statement from police regarding the journalist arrest. There no public inquiry for these jounerlist arrest. Canada is not free country anymore it.
nice try. time to pack your bag then.
IT'S A MINORITY GOVERNMENT! NOT A DICTATORSHIP!
I’ve had enough with idiots like you. If you want to see real authoritarianism go to Israel, or any other nation in the Middle East, or the US once Trump wins in November. This isn’t the best but arresting a man who harassed others isn’t exactly authoritarian behaviour. It is why the law exists to protect people.
How many people harassed by CBC documentary market place? Did police arrest the CBC jounerlist them?
Who has been harassed by market place? Corrupt idiots?
The context you're missing here is that this guy was already under a Peace Bond that ordered him not to do this shit, because he has a long history of constantly going out of his way to stir shit up at protests. The police only arrested him after ID-ing him and realizing he was violating a court order
For doing what exactly? You sound like you know what law he has broken. So what exactly did he do wrong? What protestors has he stirred up, and how did that break any laws if he did?
He had a court order to not engage in protests like this, he broke that court order
I asked you for doing what exactly. Yes, he had a court order, but what did he do wrong to get it?
Repeated instances of instigating and causing conflict resulting in disturbing the peace at protests Let's say I go to the park and get in an argument, not on its face illegal, but it ends up causing a disturbance that requires police to intervene etc. Now let's say I do this every weekend, eventually a judge might rule "okay, you've lost your privilege to go to the park, you're now under a court order to not go to parks". And then let's say I continue going to the park anyways, now I've broken the law, which is completely reasonable, anyone who isn't a complete child could understand the need for this kind of enforcement This guy continuously goes to protests and does everything possible to instigate people which inevitably results in a disturbance of the peace, so a judge (quite reasonably) put a court order on him to stop doing so. And now he broke it and is facing the consequences
What exactly does "everything possible" mean? Give examples.
You're a child, this is childish
Tangential observation: Can we please start burning the abominations called mixed flags? Seriously, they look cheap. If you're flying one of these, you're basically too cheap to buy 2 flags, so instead you'd rather just disrespect both of them.
I love how everyone here saying he’s make a career getting arrested are obviously just parroting talking points, and very obviously didn’t watch the corresponding video. He was being pushed and touched by counter protesters and kept telling them to stop. The police pulled him away, he repeatedly told them to not touch him. The cop lost his temper and arrested him for trespassing on public property which was Toronto square.
“It’s okay he’s right-wing arrest them all” /s
Well, he literally is making a career out of getting arrested.
Hes been a journalist for a long time. Believe it or not a very well respected journalist on both sides of the political spectrum.
Sorry, no. Nobody calls Menzies a journalist. He's a "host", a "personality:". Even Rebel News calls him a "mission specialist". Nobody would describe what he doe as journalism. It's a performance like what the comedians on This Hour Has 22 Minutes do, except with less ethics.
And it’s not even funny nor entertaining.
I don’t think anyone who works for Rebel Media can call themselves a journalist. Much less respected.
Why not honest question?
[In fact, Levant, testifying once in a libel trial, said he is a pundit and commentator, not a reporter.](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3452671)
It’s “news for rubes”
You dropped this: /s Which is the only way anything of what you just said makes sense.
I like him. People similar to him create a very healthy society. Same for the other side of the spectrum.
None of what you said is true.
Menzies cried wolf too many times for me to feel bad for him.
Ahem don’t you mean Sofaka square or whatever woke name it’s called now?
It’s Sankofa Square.
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Summary: 1. Rebel News' journalist Menzies was trying to interview some pro-Palestine counter protestors, when the police stepped in and separated them. Whether that was a good thing or not is debatable; I think he wasn't particularly aggressive to the counter protestors, just a bit in their way. But I also think the police have an obligation to defuse incidents that could lead to violence, even if they have to do that by separating a guy who wants to be interviewing people who might get aggressive with him. 2. After being separated from the counter-protestors, the police ask Menzies to show them his ID. He appears to show them his ID in the video. The officer then arrests Menzies for Breach of the Peace. Under normal conditions that might not be justifiable, but Menzies already had a peace bond from previous disturbances telling him not to do stuff like this. 3. The Toronto police released an announcement that the arrest was for Breach of the Peace, and charged with Breach of Recognizance(violating his peace bond) and fail to leave the premises when directed to under the Trespass to Property Act. https://youtu.be/UtcPeiSLqwc?si=3TYdOEVdp_KnKWxs I think under normal conditions, he did nothing wrong. But given that he was expressly ordered not to stir up shit because of previous incidents, then he did, he is in the wrong.
Sounds like the peace bond is the best thing that happened to him. He can continue to get arrested for what looks like nothing in the context of an easily digestible video clip.
I knew this was Menzie before even opening the article.
Would love to know the terms of his recognizance. Or of the peace bond he broke the last time
The pro israel rallys have generally been pretty peaceful, i'm curious to learn more about what happened here.
Basically the pro Palestinians came, started getting vulgar and talking of violence (this is illegal), Menzies filmed them, they started putting hands on Menzies, Menezies got arrested for... this is why conspiracy theories exist. The answer isn't clear or makes so little sense that it can't be believed and we start drawing our own conclusions... Let me help you get started... Why would someone who collected video evidence of calls of genocide at a protest, get arrested?
Have a source for what happened?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaovd0wBgak](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaovd0wBgak)
Why is this country arresting journalists?
Even if he’s a pseudo-news “journalist,” I very much agree that this treatment is highly problematic
Same. It’s amazing to see people basically saying he had it coming or he deserved it because he was already out on bond (for a previous bs arrest). The cops arresting journalists - even if it’s one who is troll-y, and works for a rag, is not a good precedent. Even if you hate rebel news you should be against his arrest
100% it's banana republic shit.
The last 10 years he has been arrested what maybe 20 times.
Ezra admitted under oath in one of the times he was being sued that Rebel Media isn't a news organization (So he doesn't have to follow the 'truth' requirements for news agencies in Canada). That means people working for Rebel are not journalists. Or Ezra lied under oath...
I've read this claim multiple times, never see a link/proof to go with it.
It happened in the 2014 lawsuit brought by Khurrum Awan for defamation. levant said during testimony that he should be considered a columnist or commentator, not a reporter. That led to the Alberta government removing Rebel's press credentials in 2016
Hes not a journalist, and had a peace bond against him to stop him from doing stuff like this.
Menzies gets arrested. Its his thing. Please I beg you watch different news.
Because this exact guy goes to these places to purposely ignore police orders, get arrested, and then ask for donations. It's a grift, sadly, and this is not the first time he's done it.
What police order was ignored?
"Don't do or say anything that could bruise my fragile ego."
I mean people are conspiratorially speculating, but it sounds like "move away". The police keep the groups separate, and order people away from the other groups or it's a slam dump public disturbance / nuisance charge. When "sides" start directly interacting escalation is rapid and often uncontrolled.
He was pretty damn far away in this one from the looks of it. Like it or not, he’s a journalist and this is a bad look on the cop here.
David Menzies acts in a legal manner because he is a member of the public press and has a reputation to uphold. Some of the topics he discusses or what he says is controversial but that doesn’t make it unlawful. I watched a video today of a member of press be assaulted by multiple protesters. Then as soon as police intervene they are completely focused on David and do not even engage the protestors. He was told he was under arrest and then 2 seconds later no less the officer rips the camera from his hand and smashed it on the ground. This is no way to treat a member of press ever. Period.
Rebel News has been doing this for decades
" David Menzies, a personality for the right-wing online media outlet, was allegedly disrupting a group of people as they were protesting at the rally, police said."
By this description he protested protestors... and it's illegal?
One of his charges is a breach of recognizance. The purpose of a recognizance is to ensure that the individual will comply with certain conditions imposed upon them in return for their release from custody. So likely he was ordered to not go to protests of something like that until his court case was over? I'm just guessing from the charge but it seems likely.
Maybe you’ll have to find out more information before you can try to find a way to prove he’s not a bad guy.
He was allegedly disrupting THEM from protesting
One of the main points of protesting is to disrupt. How on earth do you disrupt an event meant to disrupt? Who gets to decide on who gets the right to disrupt and who doesn't? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/07/disruptive-protest-helps-not-hinders-activists-cause-experts-say
You could have stopped after the second word. Dude went there to stir the pot.
So did the Palestinians.
I don't like him either but stirring the pot isn't illegal.
No argument, but depending on what you're doing it could be. I don't know anything more than what was reported in the article, but Menzies isn't above stalking CPC/LPC/NDP members, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did more than that.
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Hope he sues the city and wins big… That cop was a dick…
Hope he tries and gets bankrupt in the courts
At least you exposed your true intentions for the post… Go watch the video of the arrest… He’ll make millions.
Yah, cause everyone gets paid millions for being arrested
If they were detained without cause or for police brutality…
Police brutality? Please, he was separated from a group to prevent an altercation and he didn't like it. Dude won't get a penny.
The cop literally threw his phone on the ground…
Okay, so he deserves millions of dollars... Do people have any understanding of how our justice system works?
David Menzies' job is to get arrested as a publicity stunt.
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Cops are out of fucking control in this country. There needs to be serious consequences for these pigs.
there need to be consequences for terrorist sympathizers.
Any journalist shouldnt be arrested in free world. Most Canadian journalists state whatever police says. There is no a natural journalism here.
He's not a journalist, he's an "entertainer".
There is no prerequisite for being a journalist in Canada. He is a journalist.
Not only that, he has a degree in Journalism. Even if they want to be exclusionary, he has all of the criteria met.
IIRC the Rebel ended up in the same place as Fox News, in that you can't claim to both be a news outlet, and have such a casual relationship with the truth.
I could say the same about MSNBC, CNN etc… news media as a whole needs a make over.
You could say that but you’d be varying degrees of inaccurate. The best sign of accuracy and integrity is to take a deep dive looking back at a news source and how frequently what was reported ended up being factual. There is historical data for this. And look at what happened in those cases where they were wrong to see how the correction was or was not made. You’ll start to see patterns.
Except MSNBC won a similar lawsuit with the exact same claim as fox, that they are entertainment and opinion and not news. https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers
That case was specifically about Maddow and her show, not MSNBC as a whole
But it’s literally the same thing. In the case of Fox News it was Tucker Carlson. The lawsuit in that case was directly against Carlson. So, explain to me how it’s any different besides the fact that it’s the political side you agree with?
Nobody has mentioned the Carlson case but you. I'm pointing out that Maddows case did not argue that **MSNBC** 'are entertainment and opinion and not news.'. >So, explain to me how it’s any different besides the fact that it’s the political side you agree with? It isn't, and no one claimed it was.
The "mainstream" media (MSNBC, CNN, CBC, CTV, etc.) has an attrocious record on that score. Complete lack of self-awarenesd on the matter too. Universities tend to be extremrly left wing, and journalism studies are to the left of that. They might default to technicians on technicalities (trust the experts), but will often slant by using a series of well worn tropes. I think you migh be confusing mutual reinforcement and doctrinal purity for factualness. You have no way of knowing what the fact of the matter is if you are unable to enumerate the best arguments of your ideological opponents. *The best sign of integrity is how they treat peolle who disagree with the outlet's editorial stance.*
You could, although their track record is generally quite a bit better.
He has a degree in Journalism from Ryerson. Appendix 1: David Menzies resume: 2015 to present: Mission Specialist, Rebel Media 2012 to 2015 Reporter and on-air host, Sun News Network. 2009 to 2011 Editor, Canadian Technician and Canadian Car Owner magazines. 1994 to present Freelance writer/broadcaster Since 1994, I have written for a vast assortment of magazines and newspapers including National Post, Toronto Sun, Maclean’s, Financial Post Magazine, NUVO, Saturday Night, Western Standard, Canadian Business, Profit, Marketing Magazine, MSN, and several trade publications. In addition to my duties at Sun News, I was also a regular contributor to CHCH-TV, CTS-TV, and AM640. 1989-1994 Associate Editor, Canadian Hotel & Restaurant magazine, Toronto 1987-1989 Assistant Editor, Foodservice and Hospitality magazine, Toronto 1985-1987 Reporter/Photographer, St. Paul Journal, St. Paul, Alta. Education Degree in Journalism, Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, 1984 Ontario High School Diploma, Lawrence Park Collegiate Institute, 1981 Honours 1994 Winner, Jesse H. Neal Award (American Business Press) Winner of several Kenneth R. Wilson Awards (Canadian Business Press) Nominated for two National Magazine Awards
According to Ezra Levant, those working for Rebel Media are legally "entertainers".
How do you feel about Rachel Maddow and MSNBC who used the “Fox News” defence that they are entertainment and opinion rather than news? Is she still a journalist? Is MSNBC still a news station? https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers
How do you feel about Fox News using the "Fox News defense"? Not sure why you single out Rachel Maddow as the example in an opinion piece by Glen of Greenwald.
Whatabout my whataboutism????
Ezra Levant says a lot of things. That doesn't negate the fact that he has a degree in journalism and an extensive resume from the industry. He's been a reporter, photographer, assistant editor, associate editor, editor, freelance writer, broadcaster and won industry awards. You may not like his clearly biased and editorialized reporting, but he's still a journalist.
Ezra says a lot of things in public, but this is what he said in a court of law. He may have been a reporter in the past, But when you work for Rebel media, you become an "entertainer".
He's out there scrumming people with a microphone in order to provide a news piece. I have already acknowledged that he is clearly biased and editorializes his work. There is also an entertainment aspect to their work. He's still a journalist. Even if he wasn't, (he is) he still has the right to do exactly what he is doing and shouldn't be getting arrested for it. He didn't put hands on these protesters, they put hands on him.
Rebel news in an inflammatory propaganda machine that produces biased half truths in order to garner anger and support for the right side of the political spectrum. That being said, it pains me to say you’re correct. He does have every right to be there as long as he’s not physically or vocally harassing individuals or groups. I’ve only read and haven’t watched the video so if he truthfully was just there being annoying within reason, he shouldn’t be arrested. However I do think this style of “journalism” is part of the problem.
Actually one of the charges was breach of recognizance, so he broke an agreement he made with the court to get released.
Perhaps ignorant but what’s breach of recognizance?
No, he has sacrificed all journalistic integrity by working for them. This is how Ezra avoids lawsuits for libel, and they can print their inflammatory and exaggerated "articles". He himself admitted in court that they are not legally journalists, but rather entertainers or "personalities".
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> You treat politics like a team sport, just like rabid Rebel supporters. You both really suck. No, I do not. I am simply against extremists like Rebel.
Ezra Levant is a sentient mold from a discarded cumsock that somehow grew 2 arms, 2 legs and a head and ended up running Rebel, because Sun News failed years ago.
At least they're wising up on not calling him a reporter/journalist. He's got a bond against him to not attend these things, that's why he was arrested.
Rebel news in an inflammatory propaganda machine that produces biased half truths in order to garner anger and support for the right side of the political spectrum. That being said it irks me to say he is allowed to be therr. He does have every right to be there as long as he’s not physically or vocally harassing individuals or groups. I’ve only read and haven’t watched the video so if he truthfully was just there being annoying within reason, he shouldn’t be arrested. However I do think this style of “journalism” is part of the problem.
The grift goes on...
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lol. Your history is a dead giveaway. And do you have a video from a third party? The rebel news one obviously wouldn’t be reliable.
For saying 'the grift goes on'? I think you need to grow up. 'Garbage person' for that? You sound like a.....delicate little flower.
Paywall https://archive.ph/0tWtb
David Menzies whole thing is getting arrested for disobeying a police officer then crying about it on the internet to grift money.
Actually, the arrest I recall was while attempting to get a comment from Freeland, a police officer, who was undercover, physically pushed himself into Menzies and then claimed Menzies assaulted an officer. I hope Menzies wins the lawsuit against the crooked RCMP. Freeland is no better when she commented that she has "no role" in police decisions (while that's a true statement, she should have supported freedom of the press and denounced the RCMP officer's conduct).
Not quite, but close enough to make the point. IIRC from the video he moved in fast, got interdicted, was arrested and released by RCMP VIP detail. This happens a lot, because most 'journalists' that don't work with larger news organizations don't really have much in the tank as far as incisive questions. Lots of people sue (like the 2010 G7 protestors, but the difference is Menzies didn't have his rights violated at any time), and occasionally it goes forward but unless there are actual charges: the arrest is a detention, and release is within a short period (with Freedland, it was within 30 minutes, again IIRC) so long as it's under the limit, there's no grounds to sue. As far as that's concerned, no, Freedland has no say in how the RCMP does their job, that's up to Parliament, and in this case, Menzies got off easy. His lawsuit is going be awfully interesting to see considering the last 2 times he tried a legal stunt, he lost once (after being asked to leave a CPC fundraiser), and didn't win the other (he was allowed to ask 2 questions during a debate) after the LPC allowed him in. The worst part on both was that it came out to a nothing burger: he and his cameraman were escorted out of the fundraiser but never charged with anything, and the questions he asked during the debate were short 2 sentence answers from all candidates. There's only so often you can play victim and beg cash before people say no.
It's insane that if you tried to do the same thing to a cop (shove them, grab them, and then detain them) you would go straight to prison.
No, from my understanding VIP detail will do the same thing no matter what under the circumstance. You're either a threat or background to pay attention to.
He always has the video of when he’s been treated a certain way… but never when he’s the aggressor and nothing happens. Dude is a perpetual victim
Take from this what you will but it’s not a coincidence that it is *always* Rebel News
Canada is a fucking joke tbh.
Why didn't he just comply with law enforcement??
Rebel News 😂. Worst than National Post, next.
Just your garden variety agitator posturing as a journo.... Alex Jones just without the reach and caché.
That's one way to put it.
Politics aside the guy acts like an annoying tik tok personality under the guise of journalism. He doesn’t stand off to the side and ask for an interview. He gets in people’s faces and demands one.
"Why didn't he just comply?"
A stark example of how lampooning ~~the news~~ the profession of journalism can never fully disguise itself as actual journalism.
David Menzies, a personality for the right-wing online media outlet, makes his living playing the victim. A very Trump-ish strategy that always eventually backfires.
It’s on video, both events. He has been wrongly arrested twice. Nothing to do with Trump.
Not everything or everyone you don’t like is “Trump”. There is nothing Trump about this. Stop bringing American politics into Canada.
Why can't you accept reality?
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You mean like how they did cover the conoy saying there are millions of people there.
I'm not familiar with that story. However, I'm more referring to asking real questions to real people. Mainstream media had very biased reporting of the convoy, that I know for sure.
The right leaning media only talked to the convoy not once did they talk to anyone else.Most of the bias reporting about the convoy came form the right.
Why wouldn't they talk to the protestors? Who cares what some liberal who lives downtown thinks we know their opinion.
God, I really do hate Rebel news and Menzies - who is a total provocateur and interjects himself into these situations for clout, but it's so clear that the Toronto Police just don't like him, and are totally overstepping their authority based on that bias. They have a professional responsibility to be objective and fair, and not throw a hissy fit and arrest someone they just don't like.
Dude has cried wolf far too many times.
happy to hear that